If you think Disney is the best place a musician can end up you are sadly mistaken in that Disney has never put out quality music that touches the soul, it is a small world after all, that is cute, and for children.
Vanessa is so not Disney. Disney is not quality music. This is their mistake to book someone who does not fit their image, whatever image that is, it is fake, it is illusion, and not reality, all of which Vanessa is NOT as a serious musician.
Whoever is saying her career is rock bottom and Afterglow is her golden age has yet to hear her last album or is unaware she is producing most of the tracks on her new one. She is just becoming more sophisticated as a musician which is about making music and not about an image.
Most fans know she is not image, is not Beyonce hits who no one will remember in 20 years, academy awards, lol, this is sadly not the epitome of music regardless however much corporate America markets it as such. They are after dollars from empty souls while Vanessa is about music that touches our soul truly.
The best music as of right now will not be featured at the academy awards, it will not be shown on MTV most likely, and it will not be a pop 20 hit that will be forgotten next year, the best and most important music being made now is indie music which I hope Vanessa fully goes as an artist.
Nessa fans know who she is, after White Houses, she seems to know making great music is not dependent on music labels and record deals that come full with them deciding what is the sound of the moment and try to pressure her into it, and while she might not get Disney gigs or mainstream radio coverage, it is nothing to lament over, she has a core audience and I will go out and buy every album however it is distributed.
I am sad that Vanessa ended up getting kicked out of the show with a reputation fell like a rock. Hope you were just being sarcastic when you say I think "Disney is the best place a musician can end up". If you think that was what I meant, recommend reading my post again.
This is my opinion, but saying image can be careless is bullsh**. The image is the first thing that slaps you in the face thus giving what quality can you expect from an artist. It totally reflects the artist as a whole and her bodies of works. I do not have a single problem with Vanessa's cursing. But everyone, well obviously except for some nessaholics, finds it disturbing that she cursed even after the warning from Disney. so what kind of real image do you think VC is? A girl who walks around cursing whenever she feels like it? Hell yes everyone does that. But being a musician, a real musician, aren't you, in your fans' view, a role model- an artist with such strong conscience and morals whose songs and musics help you through your hard times? Im taking a risk here but I can say that no one will ever get VC's music if she says "fck" in ATM in the first place. If VC really is someone who is independent and withstanding, and cursing is her nature and we all support "freedom of speech", then why didnt she say the word in the first place?
Ive never seen her live but from what I have been following, she cursed lately in small shows (as her career is going down, ok, in terms of sales). You may argue that when she curses+small shows=> the real Vanessa Carlton, the real music, the real image, real quality... I don't buy that. Like many people state above, she probably tries to make the show intimate and personal, which Im 100% support, but I think she's losing control and becoming rebellious as a result of stress from the disappointment after H&T. She poured her souls and tears into it and yet it wasnt well received.
I agree about the Grammy and MTV being garbage these days. But im not sure about going indie. Fans have long saying they are fine with her going indie. i feel a doubt. She once sold millions, had great video, performing live in famous places. Do you think she will be able to do all that when she goes indie? (im sorry i have no idea what indie artists are like?) I mean what is the fun when she releases a CD and that's it? She may perform here and there, back in the clubs and street venues stuff like that but no official video on youtube, on TV, no video, no performing in TV show? Charlotte Martin was super when she was trying mainstream. and she just released a CD I have no idea. and nothing else. all silence. same with Sugar Ray.
I dont know about you but I love seeing Vanessa doing stuffs. I cant just stare at the CD (even if she is able to release physically). and Im from Vietnam, Im not even in the States and the only way I can feel her is to see her. Is that possible if you go indie? or do you want cut all the fans to get her to yourself?
Sometimes I am pissed at fans who just want Vanessa for themselves. "OMG I wish we could stay like this forever, just us a little group and Vanessa. we know everything about Vanessa, her rare songs and laugh at people face when they wonder why Ordinary Day's live was different". I really dont know what to start on this. It's great that we have a group, but wanting Vanessa to go totally off mainstream so only us know her music => somehow makes it the best music in the world. better than anything else. especially compared to mainstream songs. and we are the best people, best fans for having the best music and artist...
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omfg i hate it so much when people say that. I am so sorry your.dying.wish, but declaring such a fake fact: "Indie music is the best music" is such nonsense. I know it is all opinions, but to make your opinions valid you have to have proof and evidence. Alanis Morissette and Jewel and Garbage and Michelle Branch are still making music. and it is debatable whether any of them is good (depends on your taste), but they are still making great music, and I can say that because they produce/play and write heartfelt lyrics. and they are efffing MAINSTREAM. I am upset at your bringing Beyonce up. I have never like her as a idol but she writes her freaking songs and dances her ass off and sings her heart out and seriously, paying to her is one of the worthiest entertainment thing you could get (please dont tell me music is not entertainment) because the woman is passionate and does everything the best she can.
and btw Vanessa has been writing her songs since the first album so in case you didnt know that you would only say this :
"Whoever is saying her career is rock bottom and Afterglow is her golden age has yet to hear her last album or is unaware she is producing most of the tracks on her new one" again, opinions here, whichever era you want to choose as her golden age
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I really miss her.
