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Other Topics => Completely Off-Topic => Topic started by: PIBby on August 22, 2003, 11:57:50 am
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I just got this e-mail . . .
Don't buy new Pepsi can.
Pepsi has a new "patriotic" can coming out with pictures of the Empire State Building and the Pledge of Allegiance on them. But, Pepsi left out two little words on the pledge, "Under God." Pepsi said they did not want to offend anyone. If this is true then we do not want to offend anyone at the Pepsi corporate office. If we do not buy any Pepsi product then they will not receive any of our money. Our money after all does have the words "Trust In God" on it.
*This will be the last topic I start for a while.
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I thought it said "In God We Trust"
:-P.
Not that it matters. I completely understand them not wanting to be offensive, but I think that it's stupid that they should stop there. The pledge has under God in it, so that is the way even young children are taught to say it. If the nation can go around offending everyone, there is no reason a company like Pepsi-cola can't get away with it. Besides, many people are against the pledge all together. What about offending them?
I would play along with this just because of the fact that they did something stupid and it does mention God on the money they plan to receive that these offendee's would be carrying around. Not so much because of the fact that it's snubbing God from mainstream life, if He is even there to begin with.
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I just got this e-mail . . .
Don't buy new Pepsi can.
Pepsi has a new "patriotic" can coming out with pictures of the Empire State Building and the Pledge of Allegiance on them. But, Pepsi left out two little words on the pledge, "Under God." Pepsi said they did not want to offend anyone. If this is true then we do not want to offend anyone at the Pepsi corporate office. If we do not buy any Pepsi product then they will not receive any of our money. Our money after all does have the words "Trust In God" on it.
Stupid Pepsi. :|
I won't buy Pepsi, but that won't be hard since I'm a Coke drinker. :P
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People don't understand that America was founded and, like, claimed and stuff under God. But they need to, regardless of what the fuck they think.
When I do drink Cokes, I drink Coke. Not usually anything else.
"I didn't bring books for Literature. I didn't either, I just brought my note- I mean, I didn't bring my notebook. That's good. Yeah?"
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LMAO...I wonder how many people will be offended that Under God was left off the can.
Those people will probably be much more vocal
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True. I didn't think of that. ;D
I'm gonna go protest out in front of the Pepsi thing factory looking thing on Crittenden Drive.
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I don't get how america is the land of the free and you can believe what you want and you have God on your notes? I just don't get it. lol
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WOW!! thats really queer. Fuck all you people who aren't going to buy the pepsi because of the god thing.....
This just in...people who lives...don't care what the can says unless it says" I hate fucking american". My god...some people really have no lives but to analyze this kind of shit.
people really piss me off. I'm moving to Canada where people don't care about this kind of stuff.
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WOW!! thats really queer. Fuck all you people who aren't going to buy the pepsi because of the god thing.....
This just in...people who lives...don't care what the can says unless it says" I hate fucking american". My god...some people really have no lives but to analyze this kind of shit.
people really piss me off. I'm moving to Canada where people don't care about this kind of stuff.
I do care. The majority of the people's beliefs shouldn't be put off or restricted because of a small percentage of other people's beliefs. And no, it shouldn't be considered a religious issue. America is the America it is because of settlers and pilgrims. And we've all heard the story of the pilgrims, right? So we all know why they moved to America from England or wherever the fuck they came from, eh? Okay. Taking out "under God" from the Pledge of Allegiance is saying you're against something our "Forefathers" believed in, and if you're against one thing they say, you might as well be against everything they say. Regardless if you're an Atheist, Jew, Catholic, Christian, Muslim, whatever. If you're an American citizen you WILL like those two words in the Pledge of Allegiance, otherwise, you shouldn't be considered an American. WHy does everythig have to be changed, anyway?
Love, Cecilia
PS It's principles, people! Principles!
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Well thats fine what you're saying cece. You have a reason not to go buy it if you feel that strongly about it and you can back up why you won't buy it but bottom line is...most people won't buy it and will make a big stink over it because they want to make money!! yes it's true!! Just like the oreo thing and the fast food thing. Yup. Most people here just want to make money and get their 15 minutes of fame. I think it's stupid.
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I get what you're saying. Okay. I'm not gonna try and get all wahooduh! about it, I'm just boycotting Pepsi for a bit.
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Hell, I can't live without Diet Pepsi
and could care lessssssss about what's ON the can..
But.. that's just me ;D
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people really piss me off. I'm moving to Canada where people don't care about this kind of stuff.
Need help packing? I'll help escort you to to border.
You dont wanna be here. LEAVE or stfu.
All I drink is Mountain Dew which is a Pepsi product, but I dont think is following suit with its parent brand fortunantly.
I would stop buying Pepsi based off of that too. Who do they think they are removing a line that has been there for 200 years?
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people really piss me off. I'm moving to Canada where people don't care about this kind of stuff.
Need help packing? I'll help escort you to to border.
You dont wanna be here. LEAVE or stfu.
All I drink is Mountain Dew which is a Pepsi product, but I dont think is following suit with its parent brand fortunantly.
I would stop buying Pepsi based off of that too. Who do they think they are removing a line that has been there for 200 years?
Seriously. And who do Pepsi think they are, removing words from the Pledge of Allegiance? I mean, that's like McDonald's removing lines from the Our Father or something (that'd be the day, lol).
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Well, the motto of the USA is "In God We Trust (http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/36/302.html)." It should be on our money.
It's fairly clear that the US Goverment was founded on theistic principles. The code was drafed in the same era as the Constitution. There seemed to be no conflict at the time in regards to the motto. And all the religious language in the Consitution and the Declaration of Independence wouldn't fly today. And the authors are the same kind of people who wrote the Bill of Rights, including the first amendment. The intent of the first amendment, however, was to keep any one religion from being declared a state religion, like the Anglican church. It wasn't supposed to keep the state from acknowleging a deity.
And now since I forgot what I was trying to prove, I'll shut up.
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It sounded smart enough, and I get what you're saying, but like you said, there's no point, lol.
"Excusez-moi, sil vous plait. . . . Did you catch that? Yeah, excuse me, right?"
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It's "Excusez Moi, S'il vous plait"
EDIT: It means "Excuse me please"
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I like pepsi, in fact i prefer it over coke. I purchase it because of the taste... i could care less what is on the cover. I do think if you're going to quote the 'Pledge of Allegiance', you should quote the entire thing.. however i would never let something as trivial as the decorations on a can decide wtf i drink... people that get upset about that need to think about all the people who can't afford pepsi or barely have anything to drink... they should focus their worthless energy on something more productive =)
YAY PEPSI!!!!!!!
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katia I agree..
people are getting militant for no reason!!!
but I do believe that this GOD thing has just blown over the edge.
People are so damn sensitive to it now they will pee their pants
if a company/product is somewhat religiously affiliated.
so if you feel that bad about it then don't use money? lol
use the old barter system...
It is funny that something that this country was founded on is no longer
valued and now is being shaped to whatever society wants it to be.
What a shame
I agree Pepsi should have more edge...political correctness has crippled many things in this country
You know what?? God ROCKS!!! lol
*waits for people to blow their lid*
danny
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I like pepsi, in fact i prefer it over coke. I purchase it because of the taste... i could care less what is on the cover. I do think if you're going to quote the 'Pledge of Allegiance', you should quote the entire thing.. however i would never let something as trivial as the decorations on a can decide wtf i drink... people that get upset about that need to think about all the people who can't afford pepsi or barely have anything to drink... they should focus their worthless energy on something more productive =)
YAY PEPSI!!!!!!!
Pepsi overrrrrr coke ANY day.
Well said!
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Coke would sooo kick Pepsi's ass . . . If Cokes could kick each other's asses.
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It's "Excusez Moi, S'il vous plait"
EDIT: It means "Excuse me please"
all you did was add an apostrophe and capitalize moi when you shouldn't have. You still missed an accent or two, so forget the French.
For the record, I like pepsi much better. I don't have a problem with Coke not wanting to offend people, but I think that they are causing a bigger problem by half assing it. If they didn't want that on there they shouldn't have started. There are other patriotic themes. Clearly people still got offended, and with damn good reason.
But seriously bringing out all that America was a christian nation crap is stupid. America was founded as a nation that could grow. We have grown away from a dependency and common belief in God, and that is okay an acceptable. So no one needs to agree with forefathers, etc. I think that the cans should say Go America! Or Drink more Pepsi or something. I think that the AmeriCANs were nice, and that this is all stupid
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I wouldn't drink a Pepsi anyway because it's just plain nasty. Coke would kick its ass if it could. But Pepsi, not wanting to offend members of the minority, has instead offended members of the majority. Regardless of what some out-of-control civil rights activists would have you believe, that is not a good idea. :?
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As an FYI on the Pledge of allegiance...
The original Pledge read as follows: 'I pledge allegiance to my Flag and the Republic for which it stands, one nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.'
The words "Under God" were NEVER part of the original pledge written in 1892... It wasn't until 1954 that those words were added as an attempt to take a stab at "those heathen Communists."
The pledge never had the words... it was never supposed to. Those two words have caused way too much controversy and should be removed. The pledge should be restored to its original 1923 National Flag Conference form before more govenrment school kids are forced to ignore it and treat it like a part of history.
I see nothign wrong with Pepsi printing the ORIGINAL Pledge of Allegiance (1923)on its cans...
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It's "Excusez Moi, S'il vous plait"
EDIT: It means "Excuse me please"
all you did was add an apostrophe and capitalize moi when you shouldn't have. You still missed an accent or two, so forget the French.
Roar! Lol, sorry. I am not bad at Francais.
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True. I didn't think of that. ;D
I'm gonna go protest out in front of the Pepsi thing factory looking thing on Crittenden Drive.
Did you know pepsi started right a short distance from me? Well it did, and the bottling company is about 30 minutes away too!
So guess what? I'm gonna buy that shit anyways...I bought a 2 liter last night, which is rare that I buy any kind of product like that...But who cares if that don't have crap written on it, it's the drink not the words....
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I will continue to buy pepsi. Because my boyfriend's dad works for pepsi, and sometimes he gives me free pepsi stuff =)
Besides, I think pepsi is better than coke.
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The words "Under God" were NEVER part of the original pledge written in 1892... It wasn't until 1954 that those words were added as an attempt to take a stab at "those heathen Communists."
Works for me!
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oh God!
this is SO OLD!
i got this email like 5 or more months ago
BUY AS MUCH PEPSI AS YOU WANT!
this is either a hoax(which i think it is), or pepsi did this already then stoped it, or they never will do it...
speaking of Pepsi... i just got pepsi Vanilla yesterday, and let me tell you, it IS MUCH BETTER than Vanilla coke!
:roll:
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oh God!
speaking of Pepsi... i just got pepsi Vanilla yesterday, and let me tell you, it IS MUCH BETTER than Vanilla coke!
:roll:
hmm I have about $2, *goes to buy pepsi vanilla!*
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you're fucking with me right? pepsi vanilla? oh my...
there is a god...I'm convinced.
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Pepsi, Coke, 7-Up, Sprite.
All of those and others were founded in a country where a person or a business has the right to print what they want on the can. We have the right to buy it or to not buy it. If you like Pepsi (vanilla included), buy Pepsi; if you don't like Pepsi, don't buy it.
Give me a Dr. Pepper because that's what I choose to buy.
Topher
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Give me a Dr. Pepper because that's what I choose to buy.
Food and drink is very political! Of course people care! Give me a Beef Crunchy Taco (http://www.tacobell.com/2003recall/). Go Arnold! :razz:
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I don't get how america is the land of the free and you can believe what you want and you have God on your notes? I just don't get it. lol
it doesn't specify which god...it says in God we trust, not "in the Christian God we trust" (i know weird)...
and sorry CeCe i have to disagree with you on this one...I love pepsi, and if they choose not to put "in god" it's their choice, maybe the owners of pepsi are atheist?...There is a seperation between government and church (not a huge one understandably) celebrating America does not mean you have to include God...
not to mention the hott sexy lady beyonce is the spokes lady.
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you're fucking with me right? pepsi vanilla? oh my...
there is a god...I'm convinced.
lucy, Pepsi Vanilla is good!
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people really piss me off. I'm moving to Canada where people don't care about this kind of stuff.
Need help packing? I'll help escort you to to border.
You dont wanna be here. LEAVE or stfu.
ya know what? she is 14 do you really expect her to leave quite yet?...jeez when people say that to minors it just seems stupid to me...because they are NOT 18...they can't really leave...
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True. I didn't think of that. ;D
I'm gonna go protest out in front of the Pepsi thing factory looking thing on Crittenden Drive.
Did you know pepsi started right a short distance from me? Well it did, and the bottling company is about 30 minutes away too!
So guess what? I'm gonna buy that shit anyways...I bought a 2 liter last night, which is rare that I buy any kind of product like that...But who cares if that don't have crap written on it, it's the drink not the words....
ok we had this arguement before...but straight from the horses mouth...
Caleb Bradham, a New Bern, North Carolina pharmacist, renames "Brad's Drink," a carbonated soft drink he's created to serve his drugstore's fountain customers. The new name, Pepsi-Cola, is first used on August 28.
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haha...yeah canadians are so care-free
not really...we're exactly the same as americans, just a bit more reserved generally. as for me, I'm all canadian woman and I have more cares then anyone.
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Being a declared atheist I have to comment. I totally respect other people's religion. I've actaully helped people out spiritually to understand their own religion for the purpose of helping to make them more spiritual. I've actaully brought people closer to god.
But I'm sick of people who treat the fact of not including god as the same as putting, "Fuck God." That is what they should put. Then see if you're offended. Maybe then you might have some perspective. We should just declare a state religion where all other religions are burnt to the ground. Maybe then you will have some respect for the freedoms you have.
tylor
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It's not about religion. It's about what America was built under. Not religion. I think I've already made that clear. If America was built under handicap apes, the Pledge of Allegiance would say "One nation, under Handicap Apes," evidenty I wasn't built under handicap apes, so we don't say handicap apes, it was built under God. And that's it.
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I dont care if it says "worship satan" on the bottle. I'm still drinking pepsi....well diet pepsi that is. I couldnt stomach coke if my life depended on it.
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lmfao....i don't even notice whats on a can..as long as it can satisfy my thirst..its all good :).some of you really need to grow up..
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As an FYI on the Pledge of allegiance...
The original Pledge read as follows: 'I pledge allegiance to my Flag and the Republic for which it stands, one nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.'
The words "Under God" were NEVER part of the original pledge written in 1892... It wasn't until 1954 that those words were added as an attempt to take a stab at "those heathen Communists."
The pledge never had the words... it was never supposed to. Those two words have caused way too much controversy and should be removed. The pledge should be restored to its original 1923 National Flag Conference form before more govenrment school kids are forced to ignore it and treat it like a part of history.
I see nothign wrong with Pepsi printing the ORIGINAL Pledge of Allegiance (1923)on its cans...
:wink:
PS: soda sucks......milk water and beer.
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lmfao....i don't even notice whats on a can..as long as it can satisfy my thirst..its all good :).some of you really need to grow up..
Grow up, eh? Okay, how about this . . . I don't believe that what Pepsi's saying is right, regardless if it's on a can or not, so I'm not gonna give Pepsi any of my money, 'til it's changed. You all don't have to do that.
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it doesn't specify which god...it says in God we trust, not "in the Christian God we trust" (i know weird)...
Yeah, and if mexico had states that just happened to touch, they would be united, and states, and of North America, no? It's an implied Fact. If you did your history work, you would see that that is the god they are talking about. Also, it's capitalized. So it's not a diety. It is the deity known as God. Like Zeus is the god known as Zeus.
About what's her face going to Canada, it's just a matter of the fact that she can't do it at 14 so much as it's a matter of stupidity. I mean face it, Canada has problems, too. Most of them don't like their prime minister, don't like the national insurance. And where did she get the idea to say I'm going to Canada? The same people that said they were leaving if Bush got elected? The same ones that had grown through socio-poltical issues, and have a moral and scrupulous foot to stand on. You aren't one of those at 14. This is your 4th president. And you were barely alive during Bush Sr.
And despite where pepsi was first served, the product had been sold for a bit of money a few times, right? So the forumula could have been made in tibet, and then sold to a pharmacist who sold it to idiots, and then sold it to a big suit who then turned it into what it is today. Whoopdeedoo.
I think that Jason is totally dead on, as long as pepsi is printing that version of the Pledge. If they say Circa 1923 or whatever, then woohoo for them. I'm just saying they shouldn't deface what it is and step beyond their bounds as a soda company. Not that their say should really amount to anything. Sorta like Evanescence, Christian people, not a Christian group. America was built predominatly by Christian people, but not as a christian nation, hence the first amendment.
Slavery is something this nation was built upon, would you see to it that pepsi showed a slave owner with a whip there because that's our nations history? Or so many other things? Whatever...I can't believe this thread is still at the top
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[Slavery is something this nation was built upon, would you see to it that pepsi showed a slave owner with a whip there because that's our nations history? Or so many other things? Whatever...I can't believe this thread is still at the top
You would never see that, simply because people would be offended. Just like I'm offended at the fact that they left out "under God." Not saying people aen't offended that Under God is in the Pledge, but 'Under God' ws officially added in 1923 . . . It hasn't been officially taken out.
And like I said, who are Pepsi to leave out two of the most important words in the Pledge ofAllegiance?
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hmm...well the omission of the words seems to have caused quite an uproar...above all things I'm sure pepsi was just trying to avoid scandal by exluding them...but like someone before this said that wasn't too smart...excluding them makes more of an issue it seems. However, I think we can be pretty sure that Pepsi didn't exclude the words based on their own beliefs...I mean even if they were strongly convicted spiritual people do you really think they would let that extend to their marketting. I'm sure the decision was not based on their beliefs but was simply made to market the product as best as possible and cause as little stir as they could. Obviously, either way you go on this one someone's going to be upset, as is true with everything nowadays, with such a diversity of opinion around the world (which is great). Whether or not pepsi could have caused less scandal through inclusion or exclusion is questionable I suppose. I personally think there would have been less if they'd just left the words there. But either way, its pretty trivial, don't you think? It's a can of pepsi. And what interplay do spirituality and caffeinated drinks have anyway?
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you're fucking with me right? pepsi vanilla? oh my...
there is a god...I'm convinced.
lucy, Pepsi Vanilla is good!
is it better than vanilla coke? cause if it is it must be shweet....I don't think its here in Canada or I would have snatched some up. Maybe thats why we're not rocked by this controversy lol.
well that and I guess the fact that we don't have all these amendments and such...hmm maybe canadians and americans really are very different...I was quite confused by the hyper-patriotism that I saw at california adventure during the electrical light parade. I just find it fascinating how you can incorporate your pride as a nation into every little thing....even the friggin' electrical light parade! its quite amazing..I like it. although it apparently makes people really defensive and such sometimes...
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And what interplay do spirituality and caffeinated drinks have anyway?
You obviously have never been chewed out by a Mormon for talking about caffeinated drinks. "This is a school! Stop talking about drugs!"
P.S. I'm not making fun of Mormons. Sooo... yeah..... no flamage, please.
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And what interplay do spirituality and caffeinated drinks have anyway?
You obviously have never been chewed out by a Mormon for talking about caffeinated drinks. "This is a school! Stop talking about drugs!"
haha...no unfortunately I havent had that pleasure
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you're fucking with me right? pepsi vanilla? oh my...
there is a god...I'm convinced.
lucy, Pepsi Vanilla is good!
is it better than vanilla coke? cause if it is it must be shweet....I don't think its here in Canada or I would have snatched some up. Maybe thats why we're not rocked by this controversy lol.
yes it is! i tasted vanilla coke, i hated it...pepsi vanilla is smooth...it is just lovely!
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Okayyyyyy,
here's a question..
Has ANYONE seen these cans yet?
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you're fucking with me right? pepsi vanilla? oh my...
there is a god...I'm convinced.
lucy, Pepsi Vanilla is good!
is it better than vanilla coke? cause if it is it must be shweet....I don't think its here in Canada or I would have snatched some up. Maybe thats why we're not rocked by this controversy lol.
yes it is! i tasted vanilla coke, i hated it...pepsi vanilla is smooth...it is just lovely!
hmm...smooth you say? I like smooth. My dad lives in california...I'll have to get him to smuggle some for me....yay I'm excited
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it doesn't specify which god...it says in God we trust, not "in the Christian God we trust" (i know weird)...
Yeah, and if mexico had states that just happened to touch, they would be united, and states, and of North America, no? It's an implied Fact. If you did your history work, you would see that that is the god they are talking about. Also, it's capitalized. So it's not a diety. It is the deity known as God. Like Zeus is the god known as Zeus.
About what's her face going to Canada, it's just a matter of the fact that she can't do it at 14 so much as it's a matter of stupidity. I mean face it, Canada has problems, too. Most of them don't like their prime minister, don't like the national insurance. And where did she get the idea to say I'm going to Canada? The same people that said they were leaving if Bush got elected? The same ones that had grown through socio-poltical issues, and have a moral and scrupulous foot to stand on. You aren't one of those at 14. This is your 4th president. And you were barely alive during Bush Sr.
And despite where pepsi was first served, the product had been sold for a bit of money a few times, right? So the forumula could have been made in tibet, and then sold to a pharmacist who sold it to idiots, and then sold it to a big suit who then turned it into what it is today. Whoopdeedoo.
I think that Jason is totally dead on, as long as pepsi is printing that version of the Pledge. If they say Circa 1923 or whatever, then woohoo for them. I'm just saying they shouldn't deface what it is and step beyond their bounds as a soda company. Not that their say should really amount to anything. Sorta like Evanescence, Christian people, not a Christian group. America was built predominatly by Christian people, but not as a christian nation, hence the first amendment.
Slavery is something this nation was built upon, would you see to it that pepsi showed a slave owner with a whip there because that's our nations history? Or so many other things? Whatever...I can't believe this thread is still at the top
aren't you just a can full of fun and what not...
My world history teacher said the thing about the in God we trust...and if Mexico had states then it would still be Mexico just with states...
Judaism believes in one god, and so does Islam (though his name is Allah..)
and seeing as how I got to learn why pepsi is made because I LIVE IN THE DAMN STATE is why i said it...I was kidding with daniel as well, because that is what i do...
have a nice day.
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GO JOEY! :D dont mess with my man haha
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aren't you just a can full of fun and what not...
I'd like to think so :lol:
My world history teacher said the thing about the in God we trust...and if Mexico had states then it would still be Mexico just with states...
Judaism believes in one god, and so does Islam (though his name is Allah..)
Then your history teacher was wrong. It doesn't even take a theologian to realize that God is the Christian god/Jewish god, by his many names/Islam god by the name of Allah, and many other nation's/people's/culture's/religions' god by millions of names I'm sure. But even if it could encompass all of those, it could still be offensive to atheists, enfuriating to satanists, etc. It's not all about what you call your god. God is the god being referred to.
and seeing as how I got to learn why pepsi is made because I LIVE IN THE DAMN STATE is why i said it...I was kidding with daniel as well, because that is what i do...
WHY is Pepsi made? I have always wondered? Is not simply to drink?
PIBby; in 1998 a revival of You're a Good Man Charlie Brown, the broadway musical was released. It was a hit the second time around, almost as much as it had been the first time. It starred a few actors that I really like. When a community theatre bought the license to perform You're A Good Man Charlie Brown at their venue in Riverside California, they didn't get a few of the songs from the revival. Though they felt gyped they realized that they couldn't afford the newer version. So they had two choices. To get the new music from a CD, or to perform without it.
They had a friend of mine lift it from a tape. Same story with Into the Woods, and countless other shows.
Pepsi didn't feel that they could afford the new versison (not fiscally), nor did they see reason not to go on without it. They performed the version post revival. Didn't mean that the revival that was still playing on broadway was any less validated. And if you are that community theatre, and if someone like you wants the words there so much they can just write them on the can.
Of course you said that you are just going to chose to not buy it, and that is your perogative, and because you aren't inflicting this on others, it's responsible, and fine. But that is where I see Pepsi is highly validated in printing an older version. Now that I know such a version existed...they should have the rights to it.
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let's all stop fighting :(
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let's all stop fighting :(
word. I agree. I didn't realize this was fighting, simply debating. The only heat I felt was the sarcasm from the twister at the beginning and then the all CAPS section. I'm done altogether though, because I don't wanna give the wrong impression.
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yeah...I mean I was thinking about what I said...and I would be willing to accept it if it was just debating...but this has turned somewhat malicious.
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Okay wait,
Has ANYONE seen this 'patriotic' cans yet?
'Cause I know I haven't..
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nope...lol :)
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well they're probably not in Canada huh?
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well they're probably not in Canada huh?
I'd think not.. lol
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Okay wait,
Has ANYONE seen this 'patriotic' cans yet?
'Cause I know I haven't..
didnt you see my post before??
i said this is probally a hoax...
i got the same email like 6 or more months ago..
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lol all this debating/arguing over a hoax... that would be pretty funny
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Okay wait,
Has ANYONE seen this 'patriotic' cans yet?
'Cause I know I haven't..
didnt you see my post before??
i said this is probally a hoax...
i got the same email like 6 or more months ago..
Yea, well that's what I'm sayinggg...
Why continue.. if no one has actually SEEN these cans firsthand..?
It probably is a hoax .. some coke-lovers created ;D
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hehehe... probably
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oopsy-daises
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I guess I'll post it now.....
It is a hoax. (http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/outrage/drpepper.htm)
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All that bickering for nothing.
-loves Diet pepsi as I sit here with a can of Diet pepsi ;D
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Can we now move on to debating over the design of the Georgia state flag?:wink:
(http://www.flagguys.com/img/gap.JPG) (http://rebelstore.com/newgaflag.gif)
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Well... to be quite honest...
I am NOT going to go to Georgia for a while....
Just playing.
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Well... to be quite honest...
I am NOT going to go to Georgia for a while....
Just playing.
As much as i would love to boycott Georgie... I will, in fact, be there from thursday to sunday. funny how that works out...
---Andrew
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lol.. oh man.. don't bring that lame flag debate in here...
It'sbad enough we have those idiot "Flaggots" down here that want that moronic symbol of treason flying everywhere. The new flag is just fine...
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Well, I have no problem with the old flag. The Confederate flag is more about states rights rather than slavery. It's a shame that it has gotten a bad name. However, if the state has officially changed it, that is that. It may have been a stupid move, caving into political correctness, but it's official now. If they really care that much about having the old flag (which I think is a rather stupid thing to whine about to begin with), they could probably lobby to get it back.
Of course, some people probably aren't happy about including "In God We Trust" on the new one... but that's another debate that I'm not getting into.......
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Well, I have no problem with the old flag. The Confederate flag is more about states rights rather than slavery.
That's what my Dad say. He's a big Confederate guy; You wouldn't know it if you saw him, but get into a conversation about the South with him and you'll see how much of a redneck he is. He always yells at me 'cause my brother's all like "Yankees suck," "The Union's gay," "Fuck the North," etc., which is when I come in, asking why, if the Union's so gay, why it kicked the Confederates' asses 200 sumodd years ago. Then something about the Conedercy isn't all about slavery or something, which, I understand . . . my brother's the one who doesn't. I'm just expaining it to him. If I had it my way, there would be nothing more of the Confederacy and we'd all be happy Yankees. :D
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Well, I have no problem with the old flag. The Confederate flag is more about states rights rather than slavery. It's a shame that it has gotten a bad name. However, if the state has officially changed it, that is that. It may have been a stupid move, caving into political correctness, but it's official now. If they really care that much about having the old flag (which I think is a rather stupid thing to whine about to begin with), they could probably lobby to get it back.
There are a million different ways to express states rights.
The confederate flag was a symbol of REBELLION. Of americans killing americans. Treason, treachery, violence, anger, hate.
Forget the slavery issue, i dont want to glorify CIVIL WAR.
---Andrew
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Exactly . . .
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True. I didn't think of that. ;D
I'm gonna go protest out in front of the Pepsi thing factory looking thing on Crittenden Drive.
Did you know pepsi started right a short distance from me? Well it did, and the bottling company is about 30 minutes away too!
So guess what? I'm gonna buy that shit anyways...I bought a 2 liter last night, which is rare that I buy any kind of product like that...But who cares if that don't have crap written on it, it's the drink not the words....
ok we had this arguement before...but straight from the horses mouth...
Caleb Bradham, a New Bern, North Carolina pharmacist, renames "Brad's Drink," a carbonated soft drink he's created to serve his drugstore's fountain customers. The new name, Pepsi-Cola, is first used on August 28.
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I thought that he first served it in SC, oh well, I'm always wrong...hehe
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Well, I have no problem with the old flag. The Confederate flag is more about states rights rather than slavery. It's a shame that it has gotten a bad name. However, if the state has officially changed it, that is that. It may have been a stupid move, caving into political correctness, but it's official now. If they really care that much about having the old flag (which I think is a rather stupid thing to whine about to begin with), they could probably lobby to get it back.
There are a million different ways to express states rights.
The confederate flag was a symbol of REBELLION. Of americans killing americans. Treason, treachery, violence, anger, hate.
Forget the slavery issue, i dont want to glorify CIVIL WAR.
---Andrew
As a Civil War reenacter..... the symbolism is very important to me. And no, I don't usually go on the Confederate side.
Think of it this way. The victors write the history books. If you talk to some Southerners, they will refer to the Civil War as "The War of Northern Agression." The states believed that they had the right to secede from the Union if the Feds were restricting their state rights. People gave up their lives for the cause. Politically, the motivations were very similar to the American motivations as a whole during the Revolutionary War. It's just that they didn't win that time.
If you want to say that it was a war of rebellion, then classify the Revolutionary War as the same. That was treason too. And don't mention the US flag, because it is a symbol of that struggle. The red is a darker hue to signify the blood shed for our independence from England. The southerners try to escape from what they view as oppression. This time they lose. And the history is written to make them look like idiots. And their flag is branded a symbol of treason and hatred.
The Civil War wasn't about slavery. If so, why did an abolitionist lead the Confederate Army?
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well i forgot all the pepsi details, the site said it was made for a fountain drink, but i thought i heard somewhere it was made to be a medicine....
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Can we now move on to debating over the design of the Georgia state flag?:wink:
To be honest, I didn't care about the old flag. I can recognise the difference between someone using the flag for their ancestral pride, verus a KKK ho trying to act all cool and superior. People are making too much of a big deal about it, and then wonder why the rest of the U.S. thinks we're a bunch of idiots.
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The Confederate flag has never been an issue among my family. You'll always see one flying at our house on all Confederate holidays. To us, slavery isn't even thought of when we raise the flag. We think of our unique history and our ancestors who went forth and stood up against a government that was taxing us, telling us what we could and couldn't do, and not providing for us proportionately. I don't pretend to believe that the South shall rise again, but it shall never be forgotten, regardless of who designs the flags.
Myself, it doesn't matter to me which design they choose as long as it does have a prominent Confederate influence, whether it be by including the Battle Flag or elements from the Stars and Bars. I wasn't at all disappointed to see the pre-1956 flag in temporary use again while the legislature discussed the issue in 2001. I even like the current temporary design, with its red and white bars and 13 stars. I do want to see the people vote and I want their opinion to matter. But no more Denny's placemat flags!
For reference, the First Confederate National Flag, called the "Stars and Bars":
(http://www.flagguys.com/img/1stnat13.jpg)
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what are y'all talking about?
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We're sorta-kinda talking about the Georgia state flag, and why everybody's mad now that they're either changing it or not changing it, and if so, how they're going to decide how they're going to change it, and how they're going to decide how to do that. :?
Georgia, you've been bad. You get no flag! :x
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ugh..amerikajin.....wakarimasen.....
anyway....I just wanted to say I finally tried to Pepsi Vanilla....mmm! tasty! it IS better than Vanilla Coke! and I love the ad campaign: "the not-so-vanilla vanilla" lol!
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Think of it this way. The victors write the history books. If you talk to some Southerners, they will refer to the Civil War as "The War of Northern Agression." The states believed that they had the right to secede from the Union if the Feds were restricting their state rights. People gave up their lives for the cause. Politically, the motivations were very similar to the American motivations as a whole during the Revolutionary War. It's just that they didn't win that time.
If you want to say that it was a war of rebellion, then classify the Revolutionary War as the same. That was treason too. And don't mention the US flag, because it is a symbol of that struggle. The red is a darker hue to signify the blood shed for our independence from England. The southerners try to escape from what they view as oppression. This time they lose. And the history is written to make them look like idiots. And their flag is branded a symbol of treason and hatred.
The Civil War wasn't about slavery. If so, why did an abolitionist lead the Confederate Army?
You make some fairly bold assumptions here. Who said that I was saying the southern states were the states commiting treason? Who said I was accusing the southern states of being at fault of anything? Maybe it's the north I blame? All I know is that being from KY I know the BRUTAL history of the civil war. There were too many Kentuckians killing eachother.
Frankly, though, even if the south HAD won, It wouldn't change the fact that they took up arms against their fellow countrymen to resolve an issue of economics that could have been easily solved with discussion.
The major difference between the Civil war and the revolution is that America was a COLONY of England. We were not PART of England. We were not England. We were a COLONY. We were kinda like the lap dogs of England. The south was a PART of the US with the same rights and duties. It would be like if London tried to leave the UK.
I never said the Civil War was about slavery. And I agree with you. Slavery wasn't the primary issue. Economics was. It was about Greed.
---Andrew