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Vanessa Carlton => General Vanessa Carlton Discussion => Topic started by: mikepepsi on January 24, 2008, 06:38:43 pm
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Hi guys.
I'm a massive fan of Vanessa's and have been since Harmonium. I'm in my second or effective fourth year of college now and I'm directing a music video. The thing is we are allowed to use any artist for this project we like as long as they provide permission.
Getting Vanessa's permission is proving trickier than I thought.
We cannot get in touch in any way shape or form as we are based in the UK and are desperately looking for a contact, because it's either we get in touch and get permish by next thursday or im going to have to use another artists music and do a totally different video.
Anyone have suggestions?
The song i'm hoping to use is Fools Like Me.
I have an entire narrative which is true to the song planned out, locations, etc. It will be filmed in the Lakes of England if we get permission. I think you guys would enjoy it. It's supposed to be very tender and raw and romantic and show a turbulent breakup and the foreshadowing of it all in a naive girls eyes leading up to a resolution where she realizes she no longer needs the man she was addicted to, and walks past him when shes arm in arm with someone who truly makes her happy rather than just tolerates her infatuation.
Obviously it's not going to be the quality of Vanessas videos since they cost quite a few thousand dollars and we only have a few hundred, but hey. It will probably be my last directing job because next year im majoring and minoring in marketing and distribution in media, so I won't have the chance to direct anything but little teasers.
My alternatives are pretty sweet too, but I like this one - the most ambitious idea - the best, because i can envisage the video the best.
UPDATE: Video Complete. Thanks so much for everyones help
THE FULL VIDEO FOR A LIMITED TIME
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jabxsbdgtFc
A SAMPLE OF THE VIDEO
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJCf_3M2nUI
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i am suggesting you contact the inc records, or universal motown, someone who can get in contact with V or her manager, i think if you got to vanessacarlton.com [i am positive youve visited there before] after you enter the site, scroll all the way down and i think there should be links to those sites [inc records, universal motown]
best wishes goodluck and i hope this was of use!
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i am suggesting you contact the inc records, or universal motown, someone who can get in contact with V or her manager, i think if you got to vanessacarlton.com [i am positive youve visited there before] after you enter the site, scroll all the way down and i think there should be links to those sites [inc records, universal motown]
best wishes goodluck and i hope this was of use!
Hey there.
Thank's a lot for your response but we did already try this avenue of contact. As with most major label sites, we aren't getting much of a response. Does anyone know who vanessas agent is and how to get in touch?
Why do labels always make contacting them so difficult. I've worked as a producer before too and it's honestly a nightmare.
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i have no clue, but it shouldnt [but it is] that hard to figure out, and if i worked at those record labels i would respond to yours probably 1st because it is involved with school and affecting your future.
i have no idea who her agent is but i will try to find out for you
so when do u need this info by?
shelby
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I think Irv runs his own Myspace page, so maybe you could send him a message?
Dunno how frequently he logs on though.
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here are some ppl who maybe worth contacting:
Manager:
Irv gotti
Robin Frank Managment
Marc Klasfeld
contact: info@robinfrankmanagment.com
robinfrankmanagement.com
Phone : +1 (646) 602-9688
Fax : +1 (646) 602-9655
512 East 11th Street
New York, NY 10009
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Thanks so much for these details and for being so helpful as always.
I'll forward the information to my producer. We basically have until next week to get her to give the okay and if by like, wednesday she hasn't then we look at other artists.
I would have imagined Vanessa would have been okay with it, since shes a woman of the art rather than the record sales, and should encourage creativity. But getting in touch with her people has been a nightmare.
I've been producer in the past and it's never been this hard to get permission. People in my class have had the OKAY from people like Sigur Ros. And last year the band Texas was a greenlight for me.
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It depends what her schedule is too. I imagine they'll be pretty busy themselves working on "hands on me" and other stuff.
good luck though! it'd be great if she could fit it in.
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so tell me if you get any info ok....its one of those things where i like HAVE TO KNOW for future reference if i ever do something like this.
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Oh i didn't mean we wanted Vanessa in the video. As amazing as that'd be I think shes a very busy lady and flying to the UK for a student music video is a stretch too far heh.
No we will have actors invovled in this instead. Local actors. It's going to have a real wilderness feel to it.
My producer called up on Friday and the label said to call back to speak to to the right guy on Monday. So by Tuesday at latest we will know if we have permission. Really hoping so. Vanessa was my first choice forever.
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That's really cool. If you get permission and make it, you should hook us up with it. It'd be really cool to see.
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Oh i didn't mean we wanted Vanessa in the video. As amazing as that'd be I think shes a very busy lady and flying to the UK for a student music video is a stretch too far heh.
No we will have actors invovled in this instead. Local actors. It's going to have a real wilderness feel to it.
My producer called up on Friday and the label said to call back to speak to to the right guy on Monday. So by Tuesday at latest we will know if we have permission. Really hoping so. Vanessa was my first choice forever.
OMB it would be so much fun to be in a music video! im an aspiring actor so that would be one of the coolest things to do at this time in my opinion!
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Oh i didn't mean we wanted Vanessa in the video. As amazing as that'd be I think shes a very busy lady and flying to the UK for a student music video is a stretch too far heh.
No we will have actors invovled in this instead. Local actors. It's going to have a real wilderness feel to it.
My producer called up on Friday and the label said to call back to speak to to the right guy on Monday. So by Tuesday at latest we will know if we have permission. Really hoping so. Vanessa was my first choice forever.
OMB it would be so much fun to be in a music video! im an aspiring actor so that would be one of the coolest things to do at this time in my opinion!
I want to be an actor and a musician.
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Oh i didn't mean we wanted Vanessa in the video. As amazing as that'd be I think shes a very busy lady and flying to the UK for a student music video is a stretch too far heh.
No we will have actors invovled in this instead. Local actors. It's going to have a real wilderness feel to it.
My producer called up on Friday and the label said to call back to speak to to the right guy on Monday. So by Tuesday at latest we will know if we have permission. Really hoping so. Vanessa was my first choice forever.
OMB it would be so much fun to be in a music video! im an aspiring actor so that would be one of the coolest things to do at this time in my opinion!
I want to be an actor and a musician.
That is my dream, I really want to be able to do something I love (acting and singing) I don't care about the whole famous celebrity thing, like vanessa said in her pleased ro meet you dvd "some people lve for being famous that's the whole point of their jobs, I don't" I have been acting since I was VERY young and I fell in love with it. And thanks to my experience with musical theater I love singing as well. So when I graduate from hs I want to go to NYU and major in performing arts and hopefully someday I will be living my dream!
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Hey guys! This discussion about projects on Nessa really brings me back to my youth.
I can distinctly remember one of our world history projects in the 10th grade. The teacher, Ms. Thissletwat, asked us to "research one of the great families in history." Once those words came out of her mouth, I knew I had to do mine on the Carltons.
I had to do some background research on the Carltons, so I had established a little camp site on the tree branch facing Nessa's bedroom. As she listened to her music and read magazines (like the cool teen she was) I took notes on her behavioral patterns.
I convinced Nessa to invite me over to do some research and she completely put her best foot forward. She threw me in her coat closet to help me work and I gathered some of the most valuable information to my research. While collecting lint samples off the floor, which happened to have a distinctly pleasant taste I might add, she came in and escorted me out of the house (she knew that I had been working hard).
When Nessa presented her project on Monday, on the Romanov's (which I thought was a little far afield) I knew I had to go next. Opened up my poster board with great specimens, like Nessa eating, going to the bathroom, what I found on her closet floor, and a blurred pic of her mom in the shower (I had to be tasteful!). She cried in absolute joy and ran out of the room.
So, in sum, you can see a great project on Nessa can go a long way, take it from me!
Yours truly,
Julinda <3 :)
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Thanks so much for these details and for being so helpful as always.
I'll forward the information to my producer. We basically have until next week to get her to give the okay and if by like, wednesday she hasn't then we look at other artists.
I would have imagined Vanessa would have been okay with it, since shes a woman of the art rather than the record sales, and should encourage creativity. But getting in touch with her people has been a nightmare.
I've been producer in the past and it's never been this hard to get permission. People in my class have had the OKAY from people like Sigur Ros. And last year the band Texas was a greenlight for me.
Sigur Rós?!! I would love to see their projects.
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Hey guys! This discussion about projects on Nessa really brings me back to my youth.
I can distinctly remember one of our world history projects in the 10th grade. The teacher, Ms. Thissletwat, asked us to "research one of the great families in history." Once those words came out of her mouth, I knew I had to do mine on the Carltons.
I had to do some background research on the Carltons, so I had established a little camp site on the tree branch facing Nessa's bedroom. As she listened to her music and read magazines (like the cool teen she was) I took notes on her behavioral patterns.
I convinced Nessa to invite me over to do some research and she completely put her best foot forward. She threw me in her coat closet to help me work and I gathered some of the most valuable information to my research. While collecting lint samples off the floor, which happened to have a distinctly pleasant taste I might add, she came in and escorted me out of the house (she knew that I had been working hard).
When Nessa presented her project on Monday, on the Romanov's (which I thought was a little far afield) I knew I had to go next. Opened up my poster board with great specimens, like Nessa eating, going to the bathroom, what I found on her closet floor, and a blurred pic of her mom in the shower (I had to be tasteful!). She cried in absolute joy and ran out of the room.
So, in sum, you can see a great project on Nessa can go a long way, take it from me!
Yours truly,
Julinda <3 :)
what.the.fuck.
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so you ate vanessa carlton's lint?
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Hey guys! This discussion about projects on Nessa really brings me back to my youth.
I can distinctly remember one of our world history projects in the 10th grade. The teacher, Ms. Thissletwat, asked us to "research one of the great families in history." Once those words came out of her mouth, I knew I had to do mine on the Carltons.
I had to do some background research on the Carltons, so I had established a little camp site on the tree branch facing Nessa's bedroom. As she listened to her music and read magazines (like the cool teen she was) I took notes on her behavioral patterns.
I convinced Nessa to invite me over to do some research and she completely put her best foot forward. She threw me in her coat closet to help me work and I gathered some of the most valuable information to my research. While collecting lint samples off the floor, which happened to have a distinctly pleasant taste I might add, she came in and escorted me out of the house (she knew that I had been working hard).
When Nessa presented her project on Monday, on the Romanov's (which I thought was a little far afield) I knew I had to go next. Opened up my poster board with great specimens, like Nessa eating, going to the bathroom, what I found on her closet floor, and a blurred pic of her mom in the shower (I had to be tasteful!). She cried in absolute joy and ran out of the room.
So, in sum, you can see a great project on Nessa can go a long way, take it from me!
Yours truly,
Julinda <3 :)
what.the.fuck.
This had to be the funniest thing I read today!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:
but seriously though, you need help.
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Okay guys an update:
VANESSA CARLTON IS FUCKING IMPOSSIBLE TO GET A HOLD OF.
Seriously, i've been emailing, myspacing, and between myself and my producer we've spent a fortune in transatlantic phone calls and eventually today got redirewcted to the UK.
The UK redirected us again and tomorrow morning a phone call to Universal music in the UK will decide wether we are doing this or not. It looks like we are going to have to go for another artist because Vanessa is really, really impossible to get. I'm devestated, I was so excited about doing a video for this song, but now...
Looks like it's not going to happen. My deadline from my producer was tomorrow, i cannot afford to wait any longer or it will jeprodize my project.
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Oh and as a sidenote, even if i cant get in touch in time, which i dont expect to at this stage, i would like to thank you guys for your help anyway.
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I still wanna see what you make. I'm sure it would be so awesome.
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Okay it looks like its BACK ON
i took matters out of my producers hands and into my own to pursue this thing, looks like we have permission but probably wont be able to put it on youtube without reconsulting with Universal first.
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Okay it looks like its BACK ON
i took matters out of my producers hands and into my own to pursue this thing, looks like we have permission but probably wont be able to put it on youtube without reconsulting with Universal first.
If you don't, wait til you've done it, got your grade.. then do it anyway ;)
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so how did you get the permission [for future use if i ever have to do this, it would be nice to know who to consult.]
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Since im in the UK i had to go through Universal UK. Not sure about the US based protocol. I happened to be lucky and find a very helpful and good natured guy at Universal UK who was okay with it and sent through permission forms today.
We do not at this stage have youtube permish for when its done, but will try to get it and will let you guys know.
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Since im in the UK i had to go through Universal UK. Not sure about the US based protocol. I happened to be lucky and find a very helpful and good natured guy at Universal UK who was okay with it and sent through permission forms today.
We do not at this stage have youtube permish for when its done, but will try to get it and will let you guys know.
There's a lot of Vanessa videos on YouTube. I think it'll be fine if you put it up.
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hopefully you will be able to put it up! i cant wait to see it if you can!
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When you say it's BACK ON, do you mean you actually got ahold of Vanessa or someone?
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Since im in the UK i had to go through Universal UK. Not sure about the US based protocol. I happened to be lucky and find a very helpful and good natured guy at Universal UK who was okay with it and sent through permission forms today.
We do not at this stage have youtube permish for when its done, but will try to get it and will let you guys know.
There's a lot of Vanessa videos on YouTube. I think it'll be fine if you put it up.
Part of being a producer and director is adhering to the rules the record labels set out of song use. Breaking them, especially with the labels explicit statement saying not to, usually results in legal action for students.
Labels pay a lot of attention to the content from student productions to ensure they aren't breaching copyrights.
I will definitely try to get it on youtube, but if the people at universal say no, then unfortunately theres not a lot we can do about it.
And in response to that last post - Yes, it's back on, we have full signed permission from Universal and Universal Motown to use the song in a student project.
I may be able to negotiate it under the terms of showing it to a fansite of carlton, but it will likely have to be pre-approved by the label.
I dont want you guys getting hyped up and thinking its going to be super expensive and professional! It should at least look nice and im spending a lot of time thinking about how to light it and planning it all out on paper, but we don't have expensive cameras or fancy equipment. We have the bare essentials and we are trying to do something quite ambitious with them.
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Just from the way you seemed excited of how you're envisioning it, I think it will be a very nice video, and I hope I can see it some way or another. Good luck!
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Gd Luck!
I wish u the best with this project and i hope that everyone of us can see it someday! :D
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well i just finished shotlisting it today. Its pretty ambitious.
For music video shoots we are allowed just two days. Sounds okay, since a lot of big budget music videos get two/three day shoots. But they also have each set and location set up with lighting etc in advance, so the artist just walks in, does her bit, and voila.
But for us, we have two days to setup every shot and then film it. Its going to be a tough few days, but im sure we can pull it off.
We are filming
- on a beach
- in a house
- in a cafe
- in a restaurant
- in a theater
I really want the theater scene to have the actress playing piano, but rumour has it my producer cant hook me up with a piano for the theater stuff. so it might just be singing into an old microphone in homage to edith piaf and nessa herself!
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sounds really fun, stressful but fun!
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Hey guys
Just a heads up that we start filming tomorrow.
First scene is a violinist playing in a dark room. Hopefully we'll get a nice shiloutte of the violinist strumming away.
The male actors we have are younger than i'd hoped, but its tough to find convincing straight and handsome young actors round these necks of the wood.
LA it aint! heh.
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^ Sounds like it will be great! If you are ever in the bay area in CA, and looking for an actor, I'm your guy!
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Hey guys
Just a heads up that we start filming tomorrow.
First scene is a violinist playing in a dark room. Hopefully we'll get a nice shiloutte of the violinist strumming away.
The male actors we have are younger than i'd hoped, but its tough to find convincing straight and handsome young actors round these necks of the wood.
LA it aint! heh.
nice to hear that you're shooting :D I would really love to see the video. :D
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Hey guys
Just a heads up that we start filming tomorrow.
First scene is a violinist playing in a dark room. Hopefully we'll get a nice shiloutte of the violinist strumming away.
The male actors we have are younger than i'd hoped, but its tough to find convincing straight and handsome young actors round these necks of the wood.
LA it aint! heh.
nice to hear that you're shooting :D I would really love to see the video. :D
Same here!
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The shoot has been going okay to pretty well.
Unfortunately we were VERY rushed by rude people in a cafe we had booked to shoot at, which meant we couldnt get all of the shots planned and those we did get werent as id hoped.
There was very bad weather on the beach scene, so hoping those shots turned out okay.
The house scenes and the stuff in the theater should be great though, filming went well for both, though the theater stuff was done on a very tight 2 -3 hour timeframe too.
Tomorrow we have 3 hours in a restaurant to get the final shots and then we edit monday to thursday.
These things never turn out as perfect as hoped, but only a huge amount of time and money can make them exactly how you envisaged them. When you are working on a college project like this and it's got stipulations and deadlines, its all about compromise. But never too much compromise, or it all becomes a farce.
Whilst i can't post the video until we get permission, i can post these dvd covers.
Credits subject to change. Not the final covers. This DVD is not for distribution, merely for hand in and personal copies for the team involved.
(http://i29.tinypic.com/2a5wylt.jpg)
(http://i29.tinypic.com/33nd8oi.jpg)
And just incase it isnt crystal clear. This music video is not official, but has permission for filming under certain conditions.
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Can't wait to see the video.
You should be okay posting it, because it isn't actually going to be released anywhere officially.
Only then would you be in trouble, I think.
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I am glad things are working out....I think it will be good.
The covers are AWESOME!!!
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can't wait to see.
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Would you be able to post the video without the music if you can't get permission?
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One more potential dvd design
(http://i31.tinypic.com/6gfv5x.jpg)
Thanks for all the comments. Might be able to upload without audio, but technically the lyrics are her copyright too, so someone lip syncing them may be a breach as well.
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omb the last one you put up is AMAZING X 1,000,000!!!!!!!!!! I love it! you should definatly use that one!!!! I love the hands on the front and the city in the back!
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Its Vanessa Carlton. I don't think she would get all law suit on you she would probably be all like "oh cool" or something like that.
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^I was thinking the same, when Zales used ATM she didnt put up a lawsuit on them, i read an article about how she doesnt really mind people using her music.
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well no Zales asked her to use it. They paid her for it. But I mean if your a fan and you made a little music video for a song of hers I don't think she would get pissed. She would enjoy it.
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I want to see this video so badly. I've always wanted to do something like this with Who's to Say.
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I might do something like this for a multimedia project for my computer class.
I don't know if it'll be Vanessa though.
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This is kinda of random, but has anyone ever tried to play a long with the Zales commercial? I find it so easy during the actual song, but when the commercial comes on it's SO hard. Hahahaha
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Oh i didnt know they paid her for it, guess i was wrong LOL
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When I first saw it I didn't know she was paid and i was a little mad because they didn't credit her like in most commercials.
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When I first saw it I didn't know she was paid and i was a little mad because they didn't credit her like in most commercials.
Yeah, but mostly, EVERYONE knows what that song is, XD
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When I first saw it I didn't know she was paid and i was a little mad because they didn't credit her like in most commercials.
Yeah, but mostly, EVERYONE knows what that song is, XD
lol very true, I figured they were paying her a LOT of money before she comfirmed the rumor that she sold it
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When I first saw it I didn't know she was paid and i was a little mad because they didn't credit her like in most commercials.
same!
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Thanks for the cover feedback guys.
The video edit is going well. Very slow, but its going well. I like it so far, im harshly critical of my own work , so this is a good sign. I wont get cocky, its still a student music video, and I dont want anyone to expect anything more than that if we get the right to show it online.
The difference between my school in the heart of the english lakes and big US film universities is that US universities for film are heavily equipped with industry standard equipment, and students usually get budgets and grants to film their shorts with. We have to pay for it all ourselves, and our equipment is laughable when compared to UCLA and the sort. But we make do.
Of course i so wish we could have all the things UCLA and NYFS have, but thats life i guess. We had decent photo lighting, but nothing like the big softboxes they get for big budget videos which is why people always look so amazing in film. We had decent cameras, but they werent fantastic or super useful.
I also wish i could have filmed on 16mm. Film stock is very important in making a video change from cheap looking to expensive looking. Its the chemical proccess involved. Unfortunately, 16mm costs thousands of dollars and our budget was like $250. Vanessas music videos are likely to cost anywhere from $100,000 to $750,000. I think Hands On Me was probably about $20-55k. It looks very simple, but the director, the lights, the cameras, the studio, the sets, all of the elements needed = expense.
(Look up "World on Fire" by Sarah McLachlan for more on that)
All of this said - Student videos tend to have loads of super dark hard to make out shaky footage. Ours is all nice and smooth and well lit. Our actors were great. The lead wasn't actually an actress but a journalism student, but she was fantastic. Better than many actual actors ive worked with. Most of our locations rocked. The stuff in the theater is beautiful - candles all around a piano and a Victorian looking set behind her.
All in all, its the smoothest, most fun shoot any of us involved had worked on. Everyone had so much fun on set, and we are all very proud with what we've got so far.
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I am glad that your happy! :D
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nice thanks for the update!
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You really don't need the right to show it online by Vanessa. There are other 3rd party music videos of Vanessa's music that haven't been deleted for copyright, plus a whole bunch of montages and such with her music.
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You really don't need the right to show it online by Vanessa. There are other 3rd party music videos of Vanessa's music that haven't been deleted for copyright, plus a whole bunch of montages and such with her music.
very much true.
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Well those people do it in their bedrooms, this is a career path for us, and what would my producer be for violating record label law? A bad producer!
We are going to try and do this the legal way. There is nothing to say we will get a flat-out no, but copyright is important, and i have yet to upload anything other than non-copyright content and images to my youtube account and hope to keep it that way!!
The video is done. It looks very good and even though its not the most aesthetically beautiful work we could have done (my cameramans own video for Sigur Ros is an amazing fishtank based video about two people meeting through a fish-tank, its gorgeous) but the shots do look really nice, and the story is great.
There is a chance we can legally upload a very short sample of the video to youtube. I think the rule is you can use like less than 20 seconds of a song for non-profit legally.
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Very short sample? Ew.
Better than nothing, though. I look forward to seeing it.
So you're getting profit from it, then?
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Very short sample? Ew.
Better than nothing, though. I look forward to seeing it.
So you're getting profit from it, then?
No, the law says you can only use a short sample if its non-profit. We aren't getting anything from this video apart from good relationships and pride. You are legally not allowed to sample a song for profit unless you pay royalties to the artist.
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good, im glad its done, and that youre happy with it, i would love to see it! what cover did you end up choosing?
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Have you tried going to Ruby's, in the afternoon, hoping to run into her?
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You could just upload it to some site for just us to download.
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^ if you could, that'd be awesome.
I'd love to see your vid, and I'm sure others would, too :D
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I'm freakin' dying to see it.
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I'm freakin' dying to see it.
Same here!
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It's not colour corrected properly here for some reason, i think youtube screwed up my upload a little bit.
THE FULL VIDEO
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jabxsbdgtFc
I hope you guys enjoy it and keep in mind it's not quite as good as it looks on the big screen, and it's also made on next to no moolah!
Thanks again for your support and enthusiasm.
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wait guys, i uploaded the full video and got this copyright notice.
Your video (Fools Like Me by Vanessa Carlton) has been identified as containing content that may be owned by someone else. The material identified in your video, the person claiming ownership of the material, and the policy they have designated for its use on YouTube are detailed below.
Material Copyright Holder Policy Countries
Audio from CARLTON,VANESSA-FOOLS LIKE ME UMG Allow Everywhere
If the policy is listed as "Allow," the material will remain on YouTube and the Copyright Holder may receive data about the number of playbacks of your video. Additionally, advertising and a small brand logo or "badge" may appear next to your video. If the policy listed is "Block," your video will not be available in the countries noted.
You have the following options:
Do Nothing
Your video will continue to play uninterrupted everywhere.
So i get to keep it up. Yay!
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On my iPod forever and ever.
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On my iPod forever and ever.
exactly what I was thinking and will do.
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yay im glad you like it!
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yep I like it very much. Great job, make sure you tell the peeps who worked on it when you see them I liked it.
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its obviously not a $100,000 music video, and we had shorter shoots than a usual video would have with much less manpower and equipment, but for a student video for a song like that, im quite happy with it. We could have done a really artistic experiemtnal video for a different song, but im glad i chose vanessa.
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WOW! The video turned out awesome. I am an aspiring director/author, so for me, this excellent. I have seen cheaper videos made by professional artists. I think it is good enough for even Vanessa to use for a music video. This could be great promo for her. Good job! 8)
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why is universal involved? her label is the inc?
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why is universal involved? her label is the inc?
The Inc is owned by Universal Motown, owned by Universal Music Record Group
Thanks again for the kind comments! So so glad some of you have enjoyed it. Makes it feel worthwhile.
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simply beautiful. awesome. yeah, it's going in my iPod too! :D
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great job. I enjoy candel scenes and the best moment in the whole video is for me the actress singing "the truth".
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great job. I enjoy candel scenes and the best moment in the whole video is for me the actress singing "the truth".
That part was my favorite too
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My favourite part is the end where the guy is in the seats watching her and she leaves. it's like she's performing it just for him to tell him she's moved on and he has to live without her. brilliant!
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Hey guys, thanks for all the positive feedback! So glad you guys enjoy it. Im waiting for the bad response, its gotta be there somewhere!
For me i liked both the scenes you guys mentioned. I had an actress rehearsal before hand and made sure she was aware i wanted her to look down then straight to the camera for the truth.
Anyway, we have our first (very dubious) honour!
Honors for This Video:
#87 - Top Rated (Today) - Music - United Kingdom
hehe! If you guys keep five starring it we might actually get some visiblity for the thing! Which i never expected! Hurrah. Thank you all again.
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Oh, and P.S did anyone notice the Heroes and Thieves cd in the title image?
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Oh, and P.S did anyone notice the Heroes and Thieves cd in the title image?
Yeah, in the 2nd O in Fools; I'm trying to keep the underbelly of my only
copy of the CD in mint condition but my lil' brother has other ideas. Your
video production is fabulous given the resources at your disposal. If You
are waiting for 'the bad response' you've come to the wrong place. Good
Will will earned by your efforts, already makes your user status here way
out-a wack with the brownie points you've clocked up with such a project
Peace
Aaron
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I didn't like how she was obviously faking the piano... And how the guy actor had acne.
But I still adore it.
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i loved it! it was REALLY good!!!!!
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100% A+ to you. That ran circles around the "Hands on Me" video and to be "amature" is simply amazing!
I thought it was brilliant, the story line was amazing. Very well done, captured every emotion and lyric of the song. I watched it twice in a row I was so pleased. You've got a bright future ahead if all your work is as quality as this. I was so impressed. I hate how music videos these days are so dumbed down for the most part, but that gives me hope! Again A+ completely amazing! They should just release that as is for the next single.
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Thanks again for all the amazing feedback guys!
your support has actually won the video some dubious youtube honours haha!
Honors for This Video:
#87 - Most Discussed (Today) - Music - United Kingdom
#83 - Most Viewed (Today) - Music - United Kingdom
#41 - Top Favorites (Today) - Music - United Kingdom
#43 - Top Rated (Today) - Music - United Kingdom
This is flattering indeed. We never saw the finished product as a masterpiece and it was quite a bit away from the perfect product i'd envisaged, but im relatively happy with the way it turned out. There are some shots that I hate and others i love. I didn't like the location for the cafe and it would have been nice to have spent more time and money on it, but we had deadlines and a very small budget so we had to do what we could with that.
Thinking about doing This Time or Heroes and Thieves next. We had a pretty good idea for Heroes and Thieves and a fantastic one for More than This. The More than This idea was far too lavish for us to afford though, and trying to do it on no budget would have been impossible.
Hopefully getting a better camera for the next video i make anyway.
I should point out im NOT generally a director. I don't want to direct long term. I think its a fun hobby and I enjoy doing it but can't picture myself in that career and think you need to be more totally gripped and motivated by the creativity of film than I am for the job.
I am usually a producer. But im heading into film marketing and distribution longterm. Hopefully if im on the right salary i can also keep making films in a few years time. But i've got the equipment of my university at my disposal for another two years ish so im going to try and do some more videos while i still can!
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I was actually pretty impressed by this video! I liked the ending most.
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The close-up shots of the violin are made of win. And I like the red in the piano-playing shots. I don't know if that was intentional, but it looks awesome.
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i don't know if i replied already, but seriously this was AMAZING. i've showed it to everyone i know. it was soooooooooo cool ahhh i love ittt.
my favorite part is when the glass falls and breaks. i dunno why hahaha.
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im glad you all enjoyed it, thanks again for teh comments!
we had our class showing yesterday and it definitely was up there as one of the best, if not the! Which is good news. I really liked how it turned out and we are maybe filming another one for either "Who's to Say" or "Heroes and Thieves" soon!
Don't know how soon though since its an external project out with university.
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im glad you all enjoyed it, thanks again for teh comments!
we had our class showing yesterday and it definitely was up there as one of the best, if not the! Which is good news. I really liked how it turned out and we are maybe filming another one for either "Who's to Say" or "Heroes and Thieves" soon!
Don't know how soon though since its an external project out with university.
PLEASE PLEASE Who's to Say....
I've always wished I could do one for it... All acting out, telling the story. and when lip-singing, they are talking to another person.
And at the end, the girl(or boy=]) holds out their hand to their boyfriend or whatever and says "stand up boy," then they're face to face and he's standing up, and (s)he goes "I shine SO bright when you're aaaround..." And they kiss, or hug or do something really sweet.
But that's always how I wished it would be... haha
I do hope Who's to Say's the one you do though. It's probably got the most emotion of all the songs she has... I think C'est La Vie does too, but in a more angered energetic kind of way.
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Another video would be lovely, and I really like the Who's to say idea.
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We will see! I mean i don't want to just do all vanessa carlton videos, but there are stories there to be told, so it's hard to just ignore that.
Heres the last promotional picture from the Fools Like Me stuff.
(http://photos-d.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sf2p/v199/149/7/626291363/n626291363_749251_6658.jpg)
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We will see! I mean i don't want to just do all vanessa carlton videos, but there are stories there to be told, so it's hard to just ignore that.
Heres the last promotional picture from the Fools Like Me stuff.
(http://photos-d.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sf2p/v199/149/7/626291363/n626291363_749251_6658.jpg)
Omg that is phenomenal! That and the hand-hold one are really awesome, not that the other one isn't too, but those two are my favs, haha. You're great at photoshop (or whoever does it)!!!
But yeah, I don't think doing just V music vids should be a goal, because eventually it'll get a little repetitive, but I def think you should do Who's to Say, but H&T, I dunno, it just isn't such a story-telling kind of song, and not nearly as emotional and Idk... Who's to Say just would create a better video than H&T by farr. I'll be disappointed if you don't do Who's to Say now cause my hopes are all up and shit... Hahaha.
But do what you will, obviously, it's your video after all! It will be great, I know, if not better than Fools Like Me.
*Dreams about the perfect video for Who's to Say*
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i vote you do who's to say!! :)
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Yeah, that would be so awesome!
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I'd love to see what you come up with if you do Who's To Say!
Do it do it do it pleeease :D
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yep.
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well well Mikey! Pimping you video here too :razz:
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I'd love to see what you come up with if you do Who's To Say!
Do it do it do it pleeease :D
That would be my choice from Harmonium also; one of my favorite tracks!
Peace
Aaron
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well well Mikey! Pimping you video here too :razz:
haha scott!
how bizarre and randomly awesome.
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we did a whos to say lighting test
the music wont upload though. i have no idea why
http://youtube.com/watch?v=3eb4X8hy4Kc
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Just a test right? Not going to be included in the vid? All it is is singing... no drama... no finesse... Kind of too FLM reminiscencent...
Constructive criticism. ^^
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You can do san Francisco, and come to SF and i will be in your vid!
Try Home, Afterglow, More Than This, Half a Week Before the winter...
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Just a test right? Not going to be included in the vid? All it is is singing... no drama... no finesse... Kind of too FLM reminiscencent...
Constructive criticism. ^^
The whole stuff is studio based lighting tests.
Im uploading a "full version" of the lighting tests this evening. It was just a chance for me to try new lights and edit (i've never edited, not an editor). It's certainly not a video in its own right.
Basically, if we make a Whos to Say video, this stuff will be intercut with the actual narrative video. I have a great concept for it already.
Right now the only thing i would say about a Whos to Say video is it will almost certainly be the same crew as the FLM one, and Kim will remain the lead. There will be new actors other than that though.
I don't know yet. I want to see Fools Like Me getting a lil more attention on youtube first. We are nearly at 1,000 already, which is pretty good!
Thanks again guys for the support.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G51tonBzUHo
again, nothing like a full video. but a testament to kims lip syncing! haha
she learned the song in an evening.
It was also a chance for me to try my hand at the technical side of things which ive never done before.
Hopefully we can go location filming and shoot the stuff we need over the next few weeks.
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ur video of fools like me is really really great! congrats!! :thumbsup:
eager to see the finished video of who's to say!!
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Just so you know, it looks like we are going to be doing a video for Whos to Say, but im considering doing The One or Heroes and Thieves instead.
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Wow! I really love the video Fools Like Me! Great job! :D
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Just so you know, it looks like we are going to be doing a video for Whos to Say, but im considering doing The One or Heroes and Thieves instead.
Okay! I look forward to discover it!! :D
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Just so you know, it looks like we are going to be doing a video for Whos to Say, but im considering doing The One or Heroes and Thieves instead.
Okay! I look forward to discover it!! :D
I concur!
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Any news?
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sorry for the lag in reply
not had the time to do another vanessa video yet.
I finally uploaded a better quality FOOLS LIKE ME vid
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozX5z_GP0JA&fmt=6