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Vanessa Carlton => General Vanessa Carlton Discussion => Topic started by: pswik91 on November 12, 2007, 07:39:59 pm
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I'm not sure if this has been posted anywhere, but I seen something about the piano she uses on her tour, but I'm curious to know what piano Vanessa used to record ATM? I really am in love with the sound and quality of it. Someone please help me if you can!
Thanks!
Phil
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there is a topic for this but it is a specially made yamaha. the one in the video I believe is a sohmer & sons, and the one in Nolita Fairtale video is not a piano. the one in her house is a yamaha too specially made. The concert version has a clasinova midi box on the bottom so you hear more of that than the actual piano
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It was the studio's Yamaha. This is covered in the 2002 Keyboard magazine article(the one where VC is on the cover). It's essential VC. It talks about recording BNN quite a bit, gets into the use of Pro Tools, etc.
Dan
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well is it possible you could tell me the name of the yamaha brand? because i'm going to get a new piano for christmas and i wanna look at one with that particular sound.
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well is it possible you could tell me the name of the yamaha brand? because i'm going to get a new piano for christmas and i wanna look at one with that particular sound.
They don't mention which one it is. For drummers, they'll say "Ludwig Drums" and leave it at that. It's no help, ha ha!
The important thing to remember is that when you're listening to a finished record, you're not hearing the pure sound of ANY instrument. It's the sound of the room, the mic, the preamp, the mixing board, EQ, compression, etc......and that doesn't take mastering into account.
I had a Yamaha upright for years(my dad has it now) and they are made amazingly consistently. I'm prejudiced, though: my favorite drumset is Yamaha, as well.
My suggestion, if you have thousands to spend, is to get out there and play as many different brands as possible. There's so many breathtakingly good ones out there! But there is something about Yamaha. They're a company that seems to make almost everything crazy good.
Dan/NS
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I hate Yamaha piano's, they're too bright.
Also keep in mind that the piano Vanessa's been using recently and keeps in her apartment is not a good indicator as to how Yamaha's sound (I realize this wasn't the piano used for the ATM recording, lol, it's a general statement). Yes, her piano is a Yamaha but it's a Yamaha that was made specifically for her and she specified the tone that she wanted. Which is a more dark, mellow, richer tone. Yamaha's never actually sound like that, they're always extremely bright and thin sounding. :/
To each their own though. It's a matter of personal preference. lol
And I really don't think nearly everything they produce is crazy good either, their keyboards are so gimmicky. lol
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i love the piano in atm music video it looks beautiful
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i love the piano in atm music video it looks beautiful
Too bad the insides were ripped out of it so they could transport the piano more easily. lol It must be interesting to play a piano that makes no sound.
I wonder what Beehtoven would have to say on the subject, since he was deaf and all. "SILLY JUST LISTEN TO THE VIBRATIONS."
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I hate Yamaha piano's, they're too bright.
Also keep in mind that the piano Vanessa's been using recently and keeps in her apartment is not a good indicator as to how Yamaha's sound (I realize this wasn't the piano used for the ATM recording, lol, it's a general statement). Yes, her piano is a Yamaha but it's a Yamaha that was made specifically for her and she specified the tone that she wanted. Which is a more dark, mellow, richer tone. Yamaha's never actually sound like that, they're always extremely bright and thin sounding. :/
To each their own though. It's a matter of personal preference. lol
And I really don't think nearly everything they produce is crazy good either, their keyboards are so gimmicky. lol
So no love for Yamaha. Gotcha!
Come now, you're gonna say you like Steinways.....correct? :)
It's impossible not to. I played a restored 9' grand from the early 1900's at a studio a few years ago. That was an amazing instrument!
Dan/NS
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I kinda like Yamaha, my first keyboard was a yahama. I got a Roland RS-9 a few months ago and I love it! it sounds great, like an acoustic piano.
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I hate Yamaha piano's, they're too bright.
Also keep in mind that the piano Vanessa's been using recently and keeps in her apartment is not a good indicator as to how Yamaha's sound (I realize this wasn't the piano used for the ATM recording, lol, it's a general statement). Yes, her piano is a Yamaha but it's a Yamaha that was made specifically for her and she specified the tone that she wanted. Which is a more dark, mellow, richer tone. Yamaha's never actually sound like that, they're always extremely bright and thin sounding. :/
To each their own though. It's a matter of personal preference. lol
And I really don't think nearly everything they produce is crazy good either, their keyboards are so gimmicky. lol
So no love for Yamaha. Gotcha!
Come now, you're gonna say you like Steinways.....correct? :)
It's impossible not to. I played a restored 9' grand from the early 1900's at a studio a few years ago. That was an amazing instrument!
Dan/NS
Steinway's are a step up from Yamaha, but I actually prefer Bosendorfer pianos. And everytime I mention that people tend to ask me if I like Tori Amos, because she uses one. No, I don't like Tori Amos. lol I just like Bosendorfer.
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I kinda like Yamaha, my first keyboard was a yahama. I got a Roland RS-9 a few months ago and I love it! it sounds great, like an acoustic piano.
Roland manufactures great digital pianos. Korg too. :)
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So what you're telling me is that if I want to get a piano with a nice sound like that I would have to get one custom made like Vanessa? I don't wanna do that though lol I just want a nice affordable baby grand piano that sounds excellent when I play vanessa carlton and classical music cause that's about all I ever play on my gross tin sounding wurlitzer console. :roll:
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On youtube there is a thing where it's like a behind the scenes on be not nobody where she talks about the album and places prince on a yamaha keyboard, is it that piano that she uses for atm?
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So what you're telling me is that if I want to get a piano with a nice sound like that I would have to get one custom made like Vanessa? I don't wanna do that though lol I just want a nice affordable baby grand piano that sounds excellent when I play vanessa carlton and classical music cause that's about all I ever play on my gross tin sounding wurlitzer console. :roll:
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On youtube there is a thing where it's like a behind the scenes on be not nobody where she talks about the album and places prince on a yamaha keyboard, is it that piano that she uses for atm?
Haha, no, I'm not suggesting you do that. I'm saying that it shouldn't be something you base your decision off of.
If I was in your position I'd look into a Steinway. Steinway's have a great full-bodied sound that's just as pure sounding as a Yamaha, without being too bright depending on the model.
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but let's be realistic those aren't in my price range lol i'm looking for something between 500-12,000. SO yeah I don't think I can find a steinway for that cheap lol
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but let's be realistic those aren't in my price range lol i'm looking for something between 500-12,000. SO yeah I don't think I can find a steinway for that cheap lol
You want to buy a nice baby grand piano for 12,000? LOL Good luck. Even buying used that's tough.
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yeah my piano teacher got her steinway for 4000 cause she said the guy didn't know how much it was worth and i was like omg lucky!
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or can you tell me how much it cost vanessa to make her piano in her apartment cause i love that quality to
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or can you tell me how much it cost vanessa to make her piano in her apartment cause i love that quality to
Well, your instructor was extremely lucky, that's rare.
Haha, there's no way you're going to be able to afford a custom build with 12,000. Keep looking at used pianos and hopefully you'll find a suitable deal.
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I kinda like Yamaha, my first keyboard was a yahama. I got a Roland RS-9 a few months ago and I love it! it sounds great, like an acoustic piano.
Roland manufactures great digital pianos. Korg too. :)
I am still figuring out all the options that it has, its 8O
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A friend of mine found a music school that was selling off some of its pianos. They had some kind of deal with Steinway, and sold off a few uprights, in good condition, after a year or so. Check to see if there are any music schools selling off their pianos.
Again, don't look for ANY recorded piano to sound exactly like one you walk up to in a small music store. Ain't gonna happen. And again, the Yamaha VC played on ATM was the studio's piano.
Dan/NS
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thanks so much!
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I hate Yamaha piano's, they're too bright.
Also keep in mind that the piano Vanessa's been using recently and keeps in her apartment is not a good indicator as to how Yamaha's sound (I realize this wasn't the piano used for the ATM recording, lol, it's a general statement). Yes, her piano is a Yamaha but it's a Yamaha that was made specifically for her and she specified the tone that she wanted. Which is a more dark, mellow, richer tone. Yamaha's never actually sound like that, they're always extremely bright and thin sounding. :/
To each their own though. It's a matter of personal preference. lol
And I really don't think nearly everything they produce is crazy good either, their keyboards are so gimmicky. lol
So no love for Yamaha. Gotcha!
Come now, you're gonna say you like Steinways.....correct? :)
It's impossible not to. I played a restored 9' grand from the early 1900's at a studio a few years ago. That was an amazing instrument!
Dan/NS
Steinway's are a step up from Yamaha, but I actually prefer Bosendorfer pianos. And everytime I mention that people tend to ask me if I like Tori Amos, because she uses one. No, I don't like Tori Amos. lol I just like Bosendorfer.
I love Bosendorfer AND Tori independantly of each other. Bosendorfer is THE BEST PIANO IN THE WORLD! Now for something actually helpful,,,,
BUY A NORDISKA!!! I bought mine brand new for about $7,500 [Including an artist's bench] And it's The Best AFFORDABLE Piano In The World!! I actually like it better than most Steinways I've played.[Steinway is over rated] Other pianos [Like Yamaha] cost double that amount or more, and are of horrible quality. Mines a polished 5' baby grand, and is hand made. Before you make a descision on any piano, play a Nordiska!
PEACE!
p.s. Shauna Burns plays a Nordiska in live concerts. Heres a good example of what one sounds like:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Om48I1wcnas
Although its a studio recording you can see her playing it live, and even though mine is only 5', it gives the exact same sound/resonance as her 7'. Nordiska is a small piano that packs HUGE SOUND! We were amazed when they delivered it at how Loud this little 5' piano was! Hope this helps, and GOOD LUCK!
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I hate Yamaha piano's, they're too bright.
Also keep in mind that the piano Vanessa's been using recently and keeps in her apartment is not a good indicator as to how Yamaha's sound (I realize this wasn't the piano used for the ATM recording, lol, it's a general statement). Yes, her piano is a Yamaha but it's a Yamaha that was made specifically for her and she specified the tone that she wanted. Which is a more dark, mellow, richer tone. Yamaha's never actually sound like that, they're always extremely bright and thin sounding. :/
To each their own though. It's a matter of personal preference. lol
And I really don't think nearly everything they produce is crazy good either, their keyboards are so gimmicky. lol
So no love for Yamaha. Gotcha!
Come now, you're gonna say you like Steinways.....correct? :)
It's impossible not to. I played a restored 9' grand from the early 1900's at a studio a few years ago. That was an amazing instrument!
Dan/NS
Steinway's are a step up from Yamaha, but I actually prefer Bosendorfer pianos. And everytime I mention that people tend to ask me if I like Tori Amos, because she uses one. No, I don't like Tori Amos. lol I just like Bosendorfer.
I love Bosendorfer AND Tori independantly of each other. Bosendorfer is THE BEST PIANO IN THE WORLD! Now for something actually helpful,,,,
BUY A NORDISKA!!! I bought mine brand new for about $7,500 [Including an artist's bench] And it's The Best AFFORDABLE Piano In The World!! I actually like it better than most Steinways I've played.[Steinway is over rated] Other pianos [Like Yamaha] cost double that amount or more, and are of horrible quality. Mines a polished 5' baby grand, and is hand made. Before you make a descision on any piano, play a Nordiska!
PEACE!
p.s. Shauna Burns plays a Nordiska in live concerts. Heres a good example of what one sounds like:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Om48I1wcnas
Although its a studio recording you can see her playing it live, and even though mine is only 5', it gives the exact same sound/resonance as her 7'. Nordiska is a small piano that packs HUGE SOUND! We were amazed when they delivered it at how Loud this little 5' piano was! Hope this helps, and GOOD LUCK!
Nordiska's are HORRIBLE pianos. Jesus christ.
A chinese company bought out the original Swedish or Finnish company (I forget), and now produces them, that's why they're so cheap. The company bears little resemblance to the original company now as a result, and the same can be said for their pianos.
How did you get a baby grand for $7,500 when I see Nordiska uprights going for that same amount? :? I'm curious.
However, because they're so affordable it's probably in the interest of the OP to consider purchasing one. Nordiska's are just decent, they're nothing special. You need to decide what you plan on getting out of the instrument, how long you'll keep playing, and the types of music you intend to perform.
Nordiska's are an okay short term investment for beginners (and that's saying a lot from me because I hate them, lol), but a few years down the line if you continue to play, you'll notice the short comings of that instrument, so you've been warned.
Nordiska's never meet the expectations of concert pianists though, the majority of classically trained musicians I've spoken to hate them too. Haha.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohRaBB81UPc
can anyone tell me what yamaha brand that piano is V is playing on here?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7bcjUNIFyA
and what about this one? is this her piano or one she takes on tour? i like this sound but the one above will do! :lol:
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Well, I know its not THE BEST piano in the world, and I don't know what kind of a horrible Nordiska you've played because mine sounds and feels 10x more amazing than any friggin' Yamaha! [Regardless of how crappy the companys become...]
I bought mine at AZ piano [ http://www.azpiano.com/ ] And trust me when I say the don't sell crap pianos. We got a deal because we traded in a really old Chickering for it, and they gave us wholesale price + an artists bench.
I plan on studying classical and pop/rock music, and am currently saving up for a Bosendorfer. I hope to have one before I'm 26, and at what they go for on Ebay, I very well may.
PEACE!
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Ah, so you traded a piano in, that explains the price you got.
And I don't know what world you're living in but Nordiska's can barely compare to a toy piano, nevermind a Yamaha. lol
In summary, Nordiska's are still horrible pianos. :P
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Yeah, Its no Bosendorfer! I get it,,,sorry I can't afford an $80-200,000 piano for my humble abode. lf she wants a baby grand piano for no more than $12,000, thats the best one for the money there is.
I'll buy a Yamaha,,,,,,IN HELL! :roll:
PEACE!
p.s. The piano I traded in was barely worth $500.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohRaBB81UPc
can anyone tell me what yamaha brand that piano is V is playing on here?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7bcjUNIFyA
and what about this one? is this her piano or one she takes on tour? i like this sound but the one above will do! :lol:
Dude, listen, it's not a matter of what you like, it's a matter of what you can afford.
The first piano is way out of your price range, and the second piano is actually V's personal piano from her apartment that Yamaha custom built for her, she takes it with her on tour.
You need to give up on the idea of buying a baby grand piano if you're serious about purchasing a piano, you're only realistic chances of getting a baby grand is getting a Nordiska. Just because your piano instructor found a deal for $4000 dollars doesn't mean you will.
Wake up, you need to look into buying a nice upright piano. Some uprights sound better than baby grands tbh. If you look at uprights, which are more affordable, you'll have a greater list of options. I understand you're only 16 and don't know much about this stuff, but you have to start acquiring some sort of semblance of what you can actually purchase and cannot.
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If you really want a baby grand, since they look pretty (which is the only reason why I think you're so dead set on getting one instead of an upright), try renting one.
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well i'm actually not buying this piano i'm telling my parents which one to buy me for christmas/ super early birthday present along with a new car. and i'm really sick of uprights they all sound to tinny and like clanky when i play them
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Well my advice would be to at least PLAY a Nordiska, considering its the only new baby grand in your price range. Because despite what the OP said I think you'd like it, I play Vanessa on it all the time and I love it! And no one is going to make you or your parents buy it if its not what you want/like. Maybe some Nordiska's are crap,,,but I consider mine to be special. It doesn't clank & has a nice full sound. But you can't judge a piano for yourself unless you've played it. Every musician has their own opinions on what brand is best ECT. But you won't know until you've tried.
PEACE!
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awe thank you so much! None of the piano stores around here sell Nordiskas though.
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Hmm,,,,Try Googleing it. Thats how I found the Piano place I bought mine at. I think i found a couple retailers in PA to help start your search.
http://www.mymodernpiano.com/index.php
http://www.valleypiano.net/index.html
Good Luck! Hope these won't be too much of a road trip for you.
PEACE!
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wow thank you so much! Those are in my price range and they look great! Those stores are close to me too!
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Another question that was probably answered but, what piano(s) were used to record harmonium? Does anyone know the models of the uprights and grand pianos? thanks! :lol:
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Im sure they were just Yamahas.
PEACE!
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i thought so.
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can anyone get their hands on a copy of that 2002 issue of keyboard for me? I would really love to read it lol thanks much