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Title: interracial dating
Post by: Holly on January 31, 2005, 05:07:44 pm
Just curious to see people's thoughts on it.
Most people I know are accepting of it, but less would actually do it themselves.
I totally don't care about race, but my parents do. I'm kinda dealing with that drama right now, haha.
Title: interracial dating
Post by: B on January 31, 2005, 05:16:57 pm
It doesn't really matter to me, it is about the person, not their skin color... and being biracial myself, the issue kind of pisses me off when people are all like "You should only date white people if you are white, etc."  :evil: lol.

... so what are all the biracial people supposed to do, only date other biracials?    :roll:
Title: interracial dating
Post by: Steveau on January 31, 2005, 05:30:32 pm
I'm not attracted to girls of my own race so I'm definitely okay with interracial relationships. It works out since girls of my race probably aren't attracted to me anyway. It seems like girls of my species aren't attracted to me but I digress.  :cuss: LMAO
Title: interracial dating
Post by: Holly on January 31, 2005, 06:13:41 pm
Yeah, I think it's stupid when people won't date someone of another race based on skin color. I don't care at all. But my parents wouldn't approve and my grandparents would be very upset. But I'm not going to let that stop me. I'm taking a biracial guy to a dance on Saturday, but just not telling my parents about it.
Title: interracial dating
Post by: Logikal X on January 31, 2005, 06:43:27 pm
To be honest this poll is silly considering i couldnt imagine vanessa carlton attracting racist fans.  To be rascist in any form you have to be pretty damn ignorant as well.


Anyone who answers opposed to any race should be banned lol
Title: interracial dating
Post by: Gina on January 31, 2005, 07:17:07 pm
Race doesn't matter to me at all.

My best friend just went through this issue with her family, her grandparents are very upset that her boyfriend is biracial, but finally have accepted it.  I'm pretty sure my grandparents would be the same way though, sadly.  Too bad though, they'd get over it.
Title: interracial dating
Post by: Holly on January 31, 2005, 09:25:00 pm
I'm glad to see the majority here agree  :D
Vanessa fans rock
Title: interracial dating
Post by: keith on January 31, 2005, 10:22:10 pm
I'm against it. The races shouldn't mix. Black goes with black, white goes with white. Period.


/sarcasm
Title: interracial dating
Post by: kev222 on February 01, 2005, 01:39:24 am
No dating is interracial. There is only one race.

-Kev
Title: interracial dating
Post by: BWilli on February 01, 2005, 05:07:35 am
race doesn't matter....

i've been in an inter-racial relationship for almost 6 1/2 years now...



Quote from: "kev222"
No dating is interracial. There is only one race.

-Kev



^ but i like how he puts it...
Title: interracial dating
Post by: kev222 on February 01, 2005, 06:45:26 am
Quote from: "BWilli"
race doesn't matter....

i've been in an inter-racial relationship for almost 6 1/2 years now...



Quote from: "kev222"
No dating is interracial. There is only one race.

-Kev



^ but i like how he puts it...

:)

It's not just a cliche either. It has scientific validity. It has been known to science for years that the genetic variation between any two people in the world is typically just 0.2%. The portion of this variation that can attributed to 'racial differences' is trivial compared to the variation that can be attributed to 'within race differences'.

Race is a redundant word. Why not classify people by nose size or leg length instead? Why not question whether we'd date somebody with significantly different fingerprints to our own?

If you won't date 'interracially' then you are shallow*, ignorant, racist or some combination of all three.

* I'm not trying to judge here. Almost all people, myself included, are shallow to some extent. If you won't date a person because you aren't attracted to the physical characteristics of that 'race', then that's different to being racist. But, because race is purely a phenotypical divide, it's still shallow.

-Kev
Title: interracial dating
Post by: NESSAussie on February 01, 2005, 06:54:58 am
Looks like my vote was the first 'yes'; my avatar explains my preference  :wink:
Title: interracial dating
Post by: Logikal X on February 01, 2005, 07:27:55 am
Quote from: "NESSAussie"
Looks like my vote was the first 'yes'; my avatar explains my preference  :wink:



bishsauce
Title: interracial dating
Post by: Scotty on February 01, 2005, 07:40:46 am
Quote from: "NESSAussie"
Looks like my vote was the first 'yes'; my avatar explains my preference  :wink:


u like Unicorns, SICKO!!!!!!
Title: interracial dating
Post by: NESSAussie on February 01, 2005, 03:11:28 pm
Actually Scotty it translates as 'now accepting applications for a japanese g/f' :wink:

(http://www.sonymusic.com.au/au/images/myhomepage/myphoto/NESSAussie.jpg)

If I can find a g/f that likes VC, expect to see more graphics from me like this :P
Title: interracial dating
Post by: zurielshimon on February 01, 2005, 03:58:32 pm
I'm not against it.  I actually have an aunt- and uncle-in-law who are white and black, respectively, and she has a white son from an earlier marriage and they have one together.  And while I can't completely say that it's not something I would have ever done, I just never found anyone of another race as attractive as many of my own race.  However, while I'm not against it, I think anyone considering it should certainly look at society around them if they ever plan to have children together because in some places among some groups, a biracial child is still looked at as a bastard of bastards.  I'm not suggesting that anyone should let society determine their every move in life, but parents should think about how their child is likely to be treated in life.
Title: interracial dating
Post by: loveplasticlove on February 01, 2005, 04:00:25 pm
All my significant encounters, boyfriends.... have been white ... so inter-racial all the way. :)
Title: interracial dating
Post by: neos on February 01, 2005, 04:06:59 pm
I suppose this poll has more sense for you Americans (or Brits for that matter, or anyone coming from a country where there is racial diversity) to answer. Sadly, there's little racial mixture in Spain nowadays and the little there is is relegated to the lower social classes. We haven't got to the point of an interracial society quite yet. I doubt there are many mixed marriages in Spain nowadays (though the number must be growing, that's for sure). I haven't been faced with the possibility of interracial dating myself cos 99,99% of the people I know are white.
Title: interracial dating
Post by: Will on February 01, 2005, 04:59:55 pm
The genetic difference between humans and chimps isn't much either. That doesn't mean the difference is nonexistent. There are physical differences between the races and it would be wrong to ignore them just because it is politically incorrect to acknowledge them. If you look at a Chinese man and a German man, you'd be able to tell the difference. Don't tell me those differences aren't genetic. They certainly aren't acquired socially. Not that I'm saying these differences matter for anything or something....
Title: interracial dating
Post by: Katia's Lover on February 01, 2005, 05:12:54 pm
I'm not against interracial relationships.  I've just never found myself attracted to a black woman.  Doubt I ever will.
Title: interracial dating
Post by: kev222 on February 02, 2005, 01:40:17 am
Will, I'm not sure if your post was a standalone statement or a challenge to my earlier post. I'll assume the latter (bored at work) and you can ignore it in the case of the former. Either way, it'll do good to clarify.

Quote from: "em one twenty-five boy"
The genetic difference between humans and chimps isn't much either. That doesn't mean the difference is nonexistent.

No it doesn't and I made no such claim regarding the diffence between humans and humans. My point was that, genotypically, the differences that we associate with race are insignificant compared to the differences we don't associate with race. There's no compelling genotypical support for the current racial groupings. In fact, considering only the genotype, they appear to be arbitrary. My point was that the current racial groupings are based purely on phenotype. Which was an important premise for my 'shallow, ignorant or racist' conclusion. Again, I'm not judging, everyone is shallow.

Quote from: "em one twenty-five boy"
There are physical differences between the races and it would be wrong to ignore them just because it is politically incorrect to acknowledge them. If you look at a Chinese man and a German man, you'd be able to tell the difference.

Indeed.

Quote from: "em one twenty-five boy"
Don't tell me those differences aren't genetic.

I won't.

Quote from: "em one twenty-five boy"
They certainly aren't acquired socially.

I agree.

Quote from: "em one twenty-five boy"
Not that I'm saying these differences matter for anything or something....

They don't matter in any social way. True diversity doesn't come from how people look. Asian people don't think or feel any differently to black people, who don't think or feel any differently to white people. I had plenty of Asian friends in school. They had been raised in England and behaved exactly like I did (which was pretty badly in school :?).

The problem won't be solved until people start viewing physical, 'racial' characteristics (e.g. skin colour) in the same way as they view other physical characteristics (e.g. height).  I don't think the differences should be ignored or that they're nonexistant, they just shouldn't be seperated off and attributed to something called race. Is there any reason to view skin colour as a somehow different genetic variation to height or hair colour? Nope. There is only one race.

All this talk of 'racial diversity' is attacking the symptoms and not the causes of racism and making things worse (or at least slowing down progress). There is real diversity everywhere, race is irrelavant to all diversity except a shallow and useless asthetic diversity. When the statements "I don't date brunettes" and "I don't date black girls" can be considered equally non-racist, then we'll have some progress. IMHO.

-Kev
Title: interracial dating
Post by: HappyZen on February 02, 2005, 02:55:26 am
In this age of political correctness being anything but politically correct is quite taboo ... a relationship is difficult enough as it is .. you have to be uber patient and tolerant to cross cultures .. especially when culture plays a big part in your life.
I've taken race to mean all things that contribute to being a part of your culture. .. completely non physicall .. because as Kev said that's completely irrelavent. Race here is more based on culture anyway ..
From some cultures burping at the table to show their host their appreciation, to other cultures I don't know .. tatooing their body as a rite of passage ...
Having said that .. kev is right .. all my best friends are a mixture of countries .. we're all as confused as eeach other ... we're all cross cultured we were born Australian and adhered to an "Australian" way of life ... laws and the way of life .. to an extent ... yet, you still had this other part that you went home too! At school you'd be eating Meat Pies and Tomato sauce, or vegemite sandwich, and at home you had your ethnic food that your mum spent a good part of the day slaving over the stove to make ... Home to a house where the front formal lounge with the aircondition was was reserved for the guest your mum was trying to impress but who would bitch anyway because they saw a speckle of dust on the coffee table .. Engllish at school and your other language at home .. The thing is, no matter how much you try to run away, culture is branded in you! Regardless of how much you try to distance yourself ..

People in these pockets of culture sprawled in the various countries gravitate towards each other, and they form a little community of time warpers ... stuck in their out dated beliefs and who can't integrate .. they talk and they talk because they have nothing better to do ..  it's hard to overcome that, and introduce to them a stranger with their strange ways ...
In a mixed country with it's mix of cultures, I'd like to think at least in my generation everyone grows up no matter what country their background is to be .. Australian or American or British or whatever .. not really .. in tune with their culture-ness ... sometimes trying to quash it even!! So they enter cross culture relationship, but while some are successful at it .. I won't say lots of my friends are cross cultured and in cross cultured relationships ... but there are some  ... and some are successful and others are not! And don't know why .. but mostly it's because they'll have their ethnic mum and dad to answer to and their different culture boyfriend won't understand it, and he'll get frustrated ... and they split up.

Its so easy to say there's only one race ..  but it requires lots of tolerance and courage to overcome culutral boundaries .. sure you can appreciate it, and even tolerate it, but can you spend the rest of your life in it?
Neos was talking about Spain lacking racial diversity, but Spain is full of cultural diversity .. huge differences exist between the North and South, and I'm sure the 2 won't be mixing anytime soon ...
IMO that's also inter .. well not racial but it's similar .. it's inter something ... and it's just as hard and just as relevant.  And I think that was the purpose of the poll .. to ask whether you'd go against the "normal" comfort zone in terms of dating, and each countries limits are different ..

Ok, that was just my schpeal because I felt like schpealing, and wanted to point out .. it's not as easy as just saying .. yes or no ... However, I did vote no .. becuase .. I don't think they factor so strongly, physical factors .. just don't make a difference to me .. i'm being serious .. groiwng up in Oz, where everyone looks different, but has an Aussie accent .. it was really quite normal to be different!! So long as you have the same values ...... So long as the couple have the same views and beliefs .. and determination, focus and agree on their way of life .. it might be a bit harder .. but its also more rewarding as it adds a new dimension and spin ..
Yay for cross cultures and cross races! :-)

edited 89747865183 times for spelling and grammer errors .. ggrr
Title: interracial dating
Post by: Scotty on February 02, 2005, 03:47:31 am
there is only one race I would date...the Human Race
Title: interracial dating
Post by: Grakthis on February 02, 2005, 12:02:52 pm
There are 4 people on this MB who are biggots  8O
Title: interracial dating
Post by: Holly on February 02, 2005, 12:05:12 pm
Quote from: "Grakthis"
There are 4 people on this MB who are biggots  8O


haha... yeah!
well atleast we dont have anyone who is completely against it, yet.
Title: interracial dating
Post by: Katia's Lover on February 02, 2005, 12:14:13 pm
Quote from: "Grakthis"
There are 4 people on this MB who are biggots  8O


OO OO!  Me! Me! Me!
Title: interracial dating
Post by: Holly on February 02, 2005, 07:17:17 pm
Today my dad told me that if anything happened with the biracial guy I'm kinda seeing he wouldn't be happy about it. wtf? but whatever... I'll date who I want. He'll just have to live with it.
Title: interracial dating
Post by: keith on February 02, 2005, 07:38:06 pm
Quote from: "Grakthis"
There are 4 people on this MB who are biggots  8O
Just because those 4 don't agree with the popular opinion that interracial dating is A-OK, that doesn't make them bigots.
Title: interracial dating
Post by: zurielshimon on February 02, 2005, 10:28:52 pm
Quote from: "keith"
Quote from: "Grakthis"
There are 4 people on this MB who are biggots  8O
Just because those 4 don't agree with the popular opinion that interracial dating is A-OK, that doesn't make them bigots.
That's right!  Disagreeing with interracial dating doesn't make anyone any more a bigot than agreeing with it makes someone a ------lover.  Namecalling is not something I'm going to stoop to, and I believe I can be sure it's not something that would be tolerated on this board.  But I know nobody's going there, are they? :D
Title: interracial dating
Post by: xxjenniferxx on February 02, 2005, 11:26:09 pm
I want a european guy hahaha j/k (seriously *wink*)

Anyway, i have no problem with who i date, the heart is what matters the most.

I judge people by thier personality and how they act, not thier skin color!

Skin color doesn't automatically make a person ugly, beautiful, poor, rich, dumb, violent etc. I've seen all races who fits each catagory. i.e who are you kidding.....

So no one is better than anyone else. But whether you admit it or not race is still happening today, some blacks holding grudges on whites for past events that happened in the 1800's or whatever. Or some whites who are usually calling blacks uneducated bums. blah blah blah. Its stupid.

I also noticed its usually the parents who teaches thier kids this stuff.

We're all the same. I don't see whats so bad about it. Btw most of all my guy friends were blue eyed white boys. lol Actually i was hoping to marry one....

@HOLLY , hey if you really like this guy, go for it , i'm sure you are old enough to make your own decisions. And if your dad is unhappy about it , than it shows he doesn't have much respect for you at all. No offense.
Title: interracial dating
Post by: HappyZen on February 03, 2005, 02:03:59 am
Quote from: "xxjenniferxx"
I want a european guy hahaha j/k (seriously *wink*)


I hear that!
T'swhy I'm going to Spain LOL :-) mmm Spanish boys LOL :-)
Title: interracial dating
Post by: Grakthis on February 03, 2005, 07:51:01 am
Quote from: "zurielshimon"
Quote from: "keith"
Quote from: "Grakthis"
There are 4 people on this MB who are biggots  8O
Just because those 4 don't agree with the popular opinion that interracial dating is A-OK, that doesn't make them bigots.
That's right!  Disagreeing with interracial dating doesn't make anyone any more a bigot than agreeing with it makes someone a ------lover.  Namecalling is not something I'm going to stoop to, and I believe I can be sure it's not something that would be tolerated on this board.  But I know nobody's going there, are they? :D


Actually, yes it does.

If you exclude someone, judge someone, have an opinion of someone, etc based ENTIRELY on race, skin color, haircolor, facial decorations, clothing, etc then you are a bigot.

Actually, if you wanna get technical, by the denotation, it just makes you "someone who is guilty of prejudice."  However, I think shortening this to BIGOT is acceptable given the connotation and discussion.

Now, it's arguable when biggotry or prejudice is justified.  I'll have that argument with anyone who wants, but obviously that's only a tangent discussion.  I can think of a few examples of justifiable bigotry.  For example, based on how a person dresses.  Or the religion they choose to follow.  Frankly, I hate the mormon faith and anyone who willingly follows it.  This is a justified bigotry.  I am prejuding Mormons based on something they CHOOSE to believe that I personally find repulsive.

However, anyone who argues that biggotry based on race is OK, can fuck off and die.  It's not.  A person has NO SAY in their race, so forming any kind of opinion based on it is WRONG.  YOU SHOULDN'T EVEN SEE RACE WHEN YOU LOOK AT A PERSON ANY MORE THAN YOU SEE HAIR COLOR.  I don't see a girl and immediatly classify her as "blonde."

Now.  If you want to say "I don't find hispanic girls attractive, therefore I don't date hispanic girls."  This is actually a different statement.  Because it states, quite clearly, if you DID find a hispanic girl attractive you WOULD date her.  You're not refusing to date her because she's hispanic.  You are refusing to date her because she's unattractive to you.  You just use hispanic as a generalization to make conversation easier.

Follow?
Title: interracial dating
Post by: Katia's Lover on February 03, 2005, 08:01:00 am
Quote from: "Grakthis"
I don't see a girl and immediatly classify her as "blonde."


I do.  Bigotry rules.  :dances:

Quote from: "Grakthis"
Now.  If you want to say "I don't find hispanic girls attractive, therefore I don't date hispanic girls."  This is actually a different statement.  Because it states, quite clearly, if you DID find a hispanic girl attractive you WOULD date her.  You're not refusing to date her because she's hispanic.  You are refusing to date her because she's unattractive to you.  You just use hispanic as a generalization to make conversation easier.


But wait.  That's what I said about black girls.  Actually, it's pretty rare that I'm attracted to any girl that's not white.  

You mean I'm not a bigot?  Damn.
Title: interracial dating
Post by: Grakthis on February 03, 2005, 08:06:56 am
Quote from: "Katia's Lover"
But wait.  That's what I said about black girls.  Actually, it's pretty rare that I'm attracted to any girl that's not white.  

You mean I'm not a bigot?  Damn.


Well.  You might still be a bigot.  But not based on this statement.

You might be a bigot in that you don't find black girls attractive BECAUSE you think your own ethnic group is somehow supperior.  Which could make you a bigot.

Or black girls just might not fit your tastes.  Which would just mean you have specific tastes.

Personally, I find women a woman can be attractive no matter WHAT race or ethnic group she is from.  Attractive is attractive.

Beyonce is hot.  Lucy Liu is hot.  Roselyn Sanchez is hot.  Tyra Banks is hot.  Kristen Kruek is hot.  etc etc etc.
Title: interracial dating
Post by: Katia's Lover on February 03, 2005, 08:14:32 am
Guess I'm not a bigot after all.   :?  :(  Damn.  I wanted to fit a profile.

It's not that I NEVER find a non-caucasian hot.  It's that I RARELY do.  Beyonce is indeed hot.
Title: interracial dating
Post by: kev222 on February 03, 2005, 10:38:38 am
Quote from: "Grakthis"
Frankly, I hate the mormon faith and anyone who willingly follows it.  This is a justified bigotry.  I am prejuding Mormons based on something they CHOOSE to believe that I personally find repulsive.

Out of interest. What's the justification (if any) beyond mormonism being their deliberate choice and you finding it repulsive? Just curious.

-Kev
Title: interracial dating
Post by: Grakthis on February 03, 2005, 11:07:42 am
Quote from: "kev222"
Quote from: "Grakthis"
Frankly, I hate the mormon faith and anyone who willingly follows it.  This is a justified bigotry.  I am prejuding Mormons based on something they CHOOSE to believe that I personally find repulsive.

Out of interest. What's the justification (if any) beyond mormonism being their deliberate choice and you finding it repulsive? Just curious.

-Kev


One of the tennants of the Mormon faith is that women and non-whites cannot obtain the grace of heaven at the SAME level as white men.

Until the late 80's it was also a rule that black men could not be priests.

Mormon's also believe that if a non-mormon and a mormon marry then the family of the non-mormon are not allowed at the ceremony.  They also do not recognize marriage cerimonies not performed in the mormon church as valid in the eyes of God (ie. when you die they end.. which in their mind makes them inferior) and they believe a mormon should seek to convert a non-mormon spouse constantly.

Basically, they are an elitist church with heavy racist and sexist history that they refuse to denounce.

Not to mention their political side.  Oh, conveniently, when Utah wants to become a state and the Mormon practice of polygamy is getting in the way... SUDDENLY the mormon phrophet (which they believe prophets are still around) has a vision saying "Polygamy is wrong now."  Wow.  Convenient.

:rolleyes:

Edit: Yeah, in other words.... I dislike anyone who believes the above things.  Since I know Mormons believe the above things, I therefore dislike them.
Title: interracial dating
Post by: Vultch on February 03, 2005, 11:26:18 am
There's beauty in all colors, there's ugly in all colors. haha

There's absolutly nothing wrong with mixing. I've done it myself, she was very sweet and beautiful, no reason not to.
Title: interracial dating
Post by: zurielshimon on February 03, 2005, 11:35:12 am
Eff you all!  I'm leaving this discussion. :x
Title: interracial dating
Post by: Holly on February 03, 2005, 11:39:45 am
Jenn- yeah, I'll date who I want. I think if I actually did get a bf of a different race my dad wouldn't be thrilled, but if I was happy he'd learn to accept it.

As a whole I'm normally attracted to black and white guys. But I do find guys of other races attractive too, just as I don't find all guys who are black and white attractive.
Title: interracial dating
Post by: Grakthis on February 03, 2005, 01:29:27 pm
Quote from: "zurielshimon"
Eff you all!  I'm leaving this discussion. :x


*flips the bigot the bird*
Title: interracial dating
Post by: keith on February 03, 2005, 03:09:51 pm
Quote from: "Grakthis"
Beyonce is hot.
Hell no, you couldn't use a better example?

And I choose not to date white girls, does that make me a bigot? Why don't I mess around with white girls? After marrying one, look at what happened to OJ Simpson...
Title: interracial dating
Post by: Logikal X on February 03, 2005, 05:56:10 pm
Quote from: "keith"
Quote from: "Grakthis"
Beyonce is hot.
Hell no, you couldn't use a better example?

And I choose not to date white girls, does that make me a bigot? Why don't I mess around with white girls? After marrying one, look at what happened to OJ Simpson...



post of the day
Title: interracial dating
Post by: Will on February 03, 2005, 06:31:24 pm
RE: Racism in Mormonism.

Joseph Smith taught that we were all spirit children in heaven before we were born here on Earth. Revelation makes note of a battle between Satan and God. In this battle, a third of the angels joined Satan and fought against God. According to Joseph Smith, one half of the remaining spirits fought bravely for God. They were later born white. Those who didn't fight as bravely were born as black.

Pfft... silly Mormons....
Title: interracial dating
Post by: Holly on February 03, 2005, 10:29:24 pm
Quote from: "em one twenty-five boy"
RE: Racism in Mormonism.

Joseph Smith taught that we were all spirit children in heaven before we were born here on Earth. Revelation makes note of a battle between Satan and God. In this battle, a third of the angels joined Satan and fought against God. According to Joseph Smith, one half of the remaining spirits fought bravely for God. They were later born white. Those who didn't fight as bravely were born as black.

Pfft... silly Mormons....


wow... that has to be THE stupidest thing I have ever heard. That pisses me off actually... who the hell could believe in something like that?
weird though, i have a good friend who's mormon and she is in an interracial relationship.
Title: interracial dating
Post by: Will on February 03, 2005, 11:41:45 pm
Keep in mind, however, that this is the writing of Joseph Smith, not the current official doctrine of the LDS church. Joseph Smith also wrote in D&C 132 that you're damned to hell if you don't practice polygamy. A later president of the church overruled it.
Title: interracial dating
Post by: Grakthis on February 04, 2005, 06:47:48 am
Quote from: "em one twenty-five boy"
RE: Racism in Mormonism.

Joseph Smith taught that we were all spirit children in heaven before we were born here on Earth. Revelation makes note of a battle between Satan and God. In this battle, a third of the angels joined Satan and fought against God. According to Joseph Smith, one half of the remaining spirits fought bravely for God. They were later born white. Those who didn't fight as bravely were born as black.

Pfft... silly Mormons....


Right.  They also taught/teach that being black is the Mark of Cain and being of the seed of Cain, blacks are unclean.

And regarding the fact that this is HISTORICAL teaching, the Mormon church has REFUSED to overturn these revelations.  They insist they are from a prophet and therefore who are they to declare them false and apologize?  Unless another prophet comes along and overturns them... which has happened in other practices like polygamy.

They choose to IGNORE them, however.

In practice the DEVOUT Mormon's I have met (of which I can only name 2) are very very very good people.  Truly kind and amazing individuals.  Their religion is insane, but this doesn't reflect on them as people.

However, the AVERAGE mormon I HAVE MET (and I've met about 10 in person, so take that as you will) is a dirty redneck bigot who uses his religion as a convenient weapon to attack people he doesn't like.  And this means women and minorities specificially.  They take the parts of their religion they find covenient and ignore the parts they don't.
Title: interracial dating
Post by: Trolan on February 04, 2005, 06:59:15 am
Quote from: "Grakthis"
However, the AVERAGE mormon I HAVE MET (and I've met about 10 in person, so take that as you will) is a dirty redneck bigot who uses his religion as a convenient weapon to attack people he doesn't like.  And this means women and minorities specificially.  They take the parts of their religion they find covenient and ignore the parts they don't.


You know, you can replace 'mormon' in that statement, with almost any other religion, and the statement still parses out as true.  :D
Title: interracial dating
Post by: kev222 on February 04, 2005, 07:11:29 am
Quote from: "Trolan"
Quote from: "Grakthis"
However, the AVERAGE mormon I HAVE MET (and I've met about 10 in person, so take that as you will) is a dirty redneck bigot who uses his religion as a convenient weapon to attack people he doesn't like.  And this means women and minorities specificially.  They take the parts of their religion they find covenient and ignore the parts they don't.


You know, you can replace 'mormon' in that statement, with almost any other religion, and the statement still parses out as true.  :D

Heh. You'd probably have to replace the word redneck too. I haven't seen too many redneck muslims or hindus about.

-Kev
Title: interracial dating
Post by: Katia's Lover on February 04, 2005, 07:19:53 am
Anyone that's not Pentecostal sucks.  









 :wink:
Title: interracial dating
Post by: Trolan on February 04, 2005, 07:24:40 am
Quote from: "kev222"
Heh. You'd probably have to replace the word redneck too. I haven't seen too many redneck muslims or hindus about.


Depends on your definition of redneck.  See this thread (http://forum.nessaholics.com/viewtopic.php?t=7361) for more information.
Title: interracial dating
Post by: kev222 on February 04, 2005, 07:38:27 am
Quote from: "Trolan"
Quote from: "kev222"
Heh. You'd probably have to replace the word redneck too. I haven't seen too many redneck muslims or hindus about.


Depends on your definition of redneck.  See this thread (http://forum.nessaholics.com/viewtopic.php?t=7361) for more information.

Haha. I'd forgotten about that.

-Kev
Title: interracial dating
Post by: Grakthis on February 04, 2005, 07:43:26 am
Quote from: "Trolan"
Quote from: "Grakthis"
However, the AVERAGE mormon I HAVE MET (and I've met about 10 in person, so take that as you will) is a dirty redneck bigot who uses his religion as a convenient weapon to attack people he doesn't like.  And this means women and minorities specificially.  They take the parts of their religion they find covenient and ignore the parts they don't.


You know, you can replace 'mormon' in that statement, with almost any other religion, and the statement still parses out as true.  :D


Maybe.  I generally avoid all organized religions.  But my experiences with bad catholics and bad christians isn't that they use their RELIGION as their excuse for being bad people.  They are just bad people.

Also, most of the caholitcs who use the bible to persecute (especially gays) aren't doing it based on the last known ruling from their church.  They are doing it based on their own poor interpretations of scripture.

The mormons who do it are doing it because their church at one time TOLD THEM that blacks and women weren't equals.

So, I guess I can sum it up with "i hate all bigots."  So if a GROUP specifically condones bigotry then I hate all members of that GROUP.

In this case, the Mormon church gives a shield that condones Bigotry.  Therefore, I hate Mormons.  I also hate the KKK.  I'm not partial.  It doesn't have to be a religious group.  If someone started a group tommorow that said "men are evil" I'd hate that group too.

Oh wait... that exists.  It's called Feminism :dr evil:

FIGHT ME!!11!1!1!!1 :troll:
Title: interracial dating
Post by: Holly on February 04, 2005, 12:43:19 pm
Quote from: "Grakthis"
In practice the DEVOUT Mormon's I have met (of which I can only name 2) are very very very good people.  Truly kind and amazing individuals.  Their religion is insane, but this doesn't reflect on them as people.

However, the AVERAGE mormon I HAVE MET (and I've met about 10 in person, so take that as you will) is a dirty redneck bigot who uses his religion as a convenient weapon to attack people he doesn't like.  And this means women and minorities specificially.  They take the parts of their religion they find covenient and ignore the parts they don't.


yeah... i know mormons of both kind too. I know 2 people who are totally accepting of all people, but just refuse to drink and do drugs. this other guy also doesnt drink or do drugs, but he also looks down on people who are of any race other than white, women, homosexuals, etc. from my expirience, he treats women like an object and tried to get his friend to use me. but... you find people of this sort in any religion.
Title: interracial dating
Post by: Wagella on February 04, 2005, 04:05:57 pm
Mmmm Asian girls.
Title: interracial dating
Post by: Steavis on February 07, 2005, 12:53:34 pm
I've dated so many koreans and japanese girls that if I said I had a problem with it that being an american born white guy I'd be a monstrous hypocrite
Title: interracial dating
Post by: LimeTwister on February 07, 2005, 04:06:06 pm
I say, go for it!  There are too many "races" in this world to say you wouldn't date outside your race.  

(not wanting to start another debate)  Aren't people like Jews another race?
Title: interracial dating
Post by: kev222 on February 08, 2005, 01:18:08 am
edited.

I assume you're looking for Feminism (http://forum.nessaholics.com/viewtopic.php?t=7765).
The mighty split was made to return this to topic. -Vulturemod


Thanks Vulture.
Title: interracial dating
Post by: Grakthis on February 08, 2005, 07:21:09 am
Quote from: "Wagella"
Mmmm Asian girls.


quoted for truthery.
Title: interracial dating
Post by: PIBby on February 08, 2005, 02:45:20 pm
You can't help who you fall for.

Smartest thing my Mom's ever said ;)
Title: interracial dating
Post by: Holly on February 08, 2005, 03:02:45 pm
Quote from: "PIBby"
You can't help who you fall for.

Smartest thing my Mom's ever said ;)


too bad my parents can't understand that, haha
Title: interracial dating
Post by: BWilli on February 09, 2005, 01:29:18 pm
Quote from: "Holly"
Quote from: "PIBby"
You can't help who you fall for.

Smartest thing my Mom's ever said ;)


too bad my parents can't understand that, haha


i honestly don't think my father was too happy when I first started dating my girlfriend. she's peruvian and he had always expected me to date a white girl.  he has learned to live with it.  like i said earlier, it's been 6+ years now.  he kind of has to deal with it.  She'll be his daughter-in-law someday i'm sure.

i think maybe they just have to get used to the idea of you dating someone of a different race.
Title: interracial dating
Post by: jessica73 on February 16, 2005, 05:01:31 pm
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I like everyone, my dad is an old whore about it however. But, since when have I listened to him? :)

Mmm, Asians.  :twisted:
Title: interracial dating
Post by: Jessica on February 21, 2005, 08:09:49 pm
the like, love of my life is half black, half italian and i dont see anything wrong with that. you can't help who you love & what they look like on the outside shouldnt have anything to do with that anyway. we're all humans.
Title: interracial dating
Post by: Fairy on March 17, 2005, 11:05:52 pm
My first boyfriend was Black.

My mom didn't like it, and I didn't care :\.

It's all about who the person is, not what color they are.
Title: interracial dating
Post by: kaysha on April 17, 2005, 05:15:05 am
I spent some time at home recently (small town in northern california) and the town has a pretty small non-white population.  My family has demonstrated that they are uncomfortable around non-white races -- i don't know if it is ignorance on their part or something worse.

My best friends are a black man, an african man, and a dominican man.  I see them as men, end of discussion.

I don't even consider "hey, they're of a different race" when i meet someone or date someone.

-katia

*whee for thread bumping!*
Title: interracial dating
Post by: Jophess on April 17, 2005, 05:54:39 am
This is OT, but why the hell is this thread so damn wide?
Title: interracial dating
Post by: kaysha on April 17, 2005, 06:39:26 am
i think it is the funky ascii art shit up above ^^ :)
Title: interracial dating
Post by: Scotty on April 17, 2005, 06:43:07 am
Quote from: "kaysha"
i think it is the funky ascii art shit up above ^^ :)


it looks like a redneck mutant frog.
Title: Re:
Post by: Julie on May 14, 2005, 10:53:10 am
It doesn't matter what race someone is when I'm dating.
Title: interracial dating
Post by: jessica73 on May 26, 2005, 01:58:29 pm
Quote from: "kaysha"
i think it is the funky ascii art shit up above ^^ :)


lmao, I forgot I even replied in this topic. :roflmao:
Title: interracial dating
Post by: jessica73 on May 26, 2005, 02:01:09 pm
And it's an Admiral from Return of the Jedi..in a SOMBRERO. Forget the alien's race ATM. But get off the pimped out hat. :D