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Title: 07/22/11 Ravinia Festival - Highland Park, IL
Post by: nutnlp on May 01, 2011, 03:14:45 pm
Five For Fighting
w/ Opener: Vanessa Carlton

It's funny theres a note @ the bottom that says:

"Michelle Branch will not join Five for Fighting as originally announced."

LOL tons of people are gonna be confused hahah

Tickets: http://www.ravinia.org/ViewDate.aspx?show=291

About the Festival: http://www.ravinia.org/AboutUs.aspx
Title: Re: 7.22.11- Highland Park, IL- Ravinia Festival
Post by: itsthefiveofus on May 01, 2011, 04:08:26 pm
Is it weird that I literally screeched when I read Highland Park IL?!?! Its a little ways for me. BUT I SHALL GO. Center section tickets are already sold out danggggg. I hope she plays a good amount of songs even though shes just the opener. I might stick around for Five for Fighting, like the music :D
Title: Re: 7.22.11- Highland Park, IL- Ravinia Festival
Post by: itsthefiveofus on May 01, 2011, 04:14:53 pm
all the good seats are taken already  >:( .
Title: Re: 7.22.11- Highland Park, IL- Ravinia Festival
Post by: [sobriquet] on May 02, 2011, 01:38:21 am
This is not really about the live show, but I just noticed that V seems to be more frequently appearing as an opener for bands for the past shows she has done. I think it is a good way to increase her fanbase too.

But, I really do hope that she'd be able to do a show of her own soon too and have someone else as an opener for her. I mean, she deserves it. (:
Title: Re: 7.22.11- Highland Park, IL- Ravinia Festival
Post by: sarab on May 03, 2011, 07:58:09 am
This is not really about the live show, but I just noticed that V seems to be more frequently appearing as an opener for bands for the past shows she has done. I think it is a good way to increase her fanbase too.

But, I really do hope that she'd be able to do a show of her own soon too and have someone else as an opener for her. I mean, she deserves it. (:

that's what I was thinking.  I mean, I think she should do her own little tour dammit!
Title: Re: 7.22.11- Highland Park, IL- Ravinia Festival
Post by: nosticker on May 03, 2011, 10:25:32 am
Vanessa is opening for..............Five for Fighting?

Uh. what?

This is ridiculous.  I'll bet you a million dollars that Meech got a better gig.

IF VANESSA'S MANAGEMENT CONSIDERS THIS REAL PROMOTION FOR THE ALBUM, THEN I SERIOUSLY URGE THEM TO RECONSIDER THEIR BUSINESS MODEL.

Who's she opening for next?  Shaggy?  Wtf?


Dan/NS
Title: Re: 7.22.11- Highland Park, IL- Ravinia Festival
Post by: Ghisy on May 03, 2011, 10:43:19 am
Agreed Dan.

I sincerely hope the tour for ROTR isn't supporting Five For Fighting. If this happens, I'm glad we're getting the 2 NYC shows.
Title: Re: 7.22.11- Highland Park, IL- Ravinia Festival
Post by: Martin. on May 03, 2011, 10:45:22 am
I also agree. WTF? That's insulting.
Title: Re: 7.22.11- Highland Park, IL- Ravinia Festival
Post by: sabasaba on May 03, 2011, 11:03:02 am
Vanessa is opening for..............Five for Fighting?

Uh. what?

This is ridiculous.  I'll bet you a million dollars that Meech got a better gig.

IF VANESSA'S MANAGEMENT CONSIDERS THIS REAL PROMOTION FOR THE ALBUM, THEN I SERIOUSLY URGE THEM TO RECONSIDER THEIR BUSINESS MODEL.

Who's she opening for next?  Shaggy?  Wtf?


Dan/NS

LOLOLOLOL
Title: Re: 7.22.11- Highland Park, IL- Ravinia Festival
Post by: nosticker on May 03, 2011, 07:11:37 pm
This seems like a one-off.  But the album will be out for a month by this date.

There's nothing else in place yet?  Jeepers.

I got a bad feeling about this.

I'm waiting until I see tour dates.

And she'll be playing the opening of an envelope probably.

Gee, what's Vertical Horizon doing these days?  They need an opener?

Sorry guys, I am getting pissed.


Dan/NS
Title: Re: 7.22.11- Highland Park, IL- Ravinia Festival
Post by: nutnlp on May 04, 2011, 07:49:44 am
I think you guys are being a little rediculous.  Its not a tour as we know right now, and being that Five For Fighting have this one show listed on there tour page without tons of others, its most likely just a one-off.  I don't know what you guys think Vanessa is going to headline stadiums?  Let's be real, she hasn't had a hit single in 9 years..nost people have no idea that she has 3 records.  I think its important for Vanessa to open for artists at bigger shows to spread the word.  Of course she will do headlining gigs at smaller bars and clubs but who's going to attend those?  Majority are already fans...opening gigs are going to happen to an artist like V. Don't worry, I'm sure she'll do headlining gigs in major markets.
Title: Re: 7.22.11- Highland Park, IL- Ravinia Festival
Post by: Manny on May 04, 2011, 07:57:36 am
Of course she will do headlining gigs at smaller bars and clubs but who's going to attend those?  Majority are already fans...

 ::) Very true
Title: Re: 7.22.11- Highland Park, IL- Ravinia Festival
Post by: nosticker on May 04, 2011, 09:44:18 am
I think you guys are being a little rediculous.  Its not a tour as we know right now, and being that Five For Fighting have this one show listed on there tour page without tons of others, its most likely just a one-off.  I don't know what you guys think Vanessa is going to headline stadiums?  Let's be real, she hasn't had a hit single in 9 years..nost people have no idea that she has 3 records.  I think its important for Vanessa to open for artists at bigger shows to spread the word.  Of course she will do headlining gigs at smaller bars and clubs but who's going to attend those?  Majority are already fans...opening gigs are going to happen to an artist like V. Don't worry, I'm sure she'll do headlining gigs in major markets.

I think VC's powers that be are a little ridiculous.  There was no proper tour for H&T, no radio play in any major markets, nothing.  I expressed my concerns about the viability of The Inc. before H&T both here and elsewhere, and they were 100% legit.  Now I'm thinking that we might be looking at another exercise in ineptitude.  It's just frustrating.

Of course I don't think Vanessa can play large places.  I know this.  She is not a big draw.  But she has opened for much, much bigger artists in the past, and so I don't understand the philosophy.  When was Five For Fighting's last hit?  '05?  It's not like they're Bon Jovi.  The Goo Goo Dolls are touring, and are in fact playing the same venue in which I first saw Vanessa with them in '02(Jones Beach).  The opener is Michelle Branch.  I rest my case.  A local band can get a spot opening for band like FFF. 

And opening acts routinely get crappy sound and short sets.  I'm not familiar with the Ravinia venue, either the size or stature, and it cannot hurt to play it.  But....there is just no substitute for her own, small club tour.  A couple hundred seats.  The right local promotion can and has done it. 

It is already May.  Album's out in 7 weeks.  Is there a tour even in the works?  Anyone in touch with her management?  Is she doing radio?  Daytime talk shows?  Look, I'll gladly siddown and treat myself to a tall glass of stfu when things start happening, but someone show me where I'm off the mark.

VC deserves better, and as we have all seen her screwed, blued, and tattooed by the biz, it's painful to see things showing more signs of sucking.  I realize that even live shows have taken a hit due to the economy, but man, I just hope I'm wrong.


Dan/NS
Title: Re: 7.22.11- Highland Park, IL- Ravinia Festival
Post by: Ghisy on May 04, 2011, 09:56:14 am
It is already May.  Album's out in 7 weeks.  Is there a tour even in the works?  Anyone in touch with her management?

The e-mail I got today from the management (mailing-list) says tour dates will be announced shortly. The label people seem motivated, they've been kind enough to reply to some of my tweets so I'm not gonna blame them for now. I think they're doing quite a decent job so far.

Although I do agree with you on the fact that they should announce them like this week so people who wants to attend can make arrangements to do so (including myself).
Title: Re: 7.22.11- Highland Park, IL- Ravinia Festival
Post by: nutnlp on May 04, 2011, 10:11:40 am
Vanessa's indie now and has had her albums ignored by labels and not promoted enough and in the right ways....I'm glad we have a new album...that's all that matters too me.  Vanessa knew what she was doing when she signed to an indie.  She has more in sight than most artists especially since this is her 3rd label..and her 4th album.  Its not all the labels fault...its very clear Vanessa doesn't like to embrace most technology in a way other indie artists do and succeed with.  I think the label is doing a great job.
Title: Re: 7.22.11- Highland Park, IL- Ravinia Festival
Post by: nutnlp on May 04, 2011, 10:13:58 am
No, I don't think Vanessa should be booking her own shows/tours...its hard for artists to manage everything themselves...but she's indie now...even though the major labels were treating her indie with Harmonium and H&T..its not a bad opening gig.  Its a good amount of people and someone said the "good" tickets are already sold.  She can't tour with Stevie forever.
Title: Re: 7.22.11- Highland Park, IL- Ravinia Festival
Post by: nosticker on May 04, 2011, 01:00:28 pm
No, I don't think Vanessa should be booking her own shows/tours...its hard for artists to manage everything themselves...but she's indie now...even though the major labels were treating her indie with Harmonium and H&T..its not a bad opening gig.  Its a good amount of people and someone said the "good" tickets are already sold.  She can't tour with Stevie forever.

I'd like to make a few things clear:  I am not criticizing Razor & Tie.  They are a credible operation and have my respect.
That is not because they might be reading this.

I think I will wait to see what is announced, tour-wise.

Are you saying that I was suggesting that Vanessa book a tour HERSELF or go on a solo tour?  I'm confused.  The first part doesn't really make sense.

A&M and The Inc. were not treating her indie.  They were "not making her a priority" or whatever the bean counters say these days.  In other words, they were ignoring her.

Dan/NS
Title: Re: 7.22.11- Highland Park, IL- Ravinia Festival
Post by: sabasaba on May 04, 2011, 02:34:21 pm
I think you guys are being a little rediculous.  Its not a tour as we know right now, and being that Five For Fighting have this one show listed on there tour page without tons of others, its most likely just a one-off.  I don't know what you guys think Vanessa is going to headline stadiums?  Let's be real, she hasn't had a hit single in 9 years..nost people have no idea that she has 3 records.  I think its important for Vanessa to open for artists at bigger shows to spread the word.  Of course she will do headlining gigs at smaller bars and clubs but who's going to attend those?  Majority are already fans...opening gigs are going to happen to an artist like V. Don't worry, I'm sure she'll do headlining gigs in major markets.

I think VC's powers that be are a little ridiculous.  There was no proper tour for H&T, no radio play in any major markets, nothing.  I expressed my concerns about the viability of The Inc. before H&T both here and elsewhere, and they were 100% legit.  Now I'm thinking that we might be looking at another exercise in ineptitude.  It's just frustrating.

Of course I don't think Vanessa can play large places.  I know this.  She is not a big draw.  But she has opened for much, much bigger artists in the past, and so I don't understand the philosophy.  When was Five For Fighting's last hit?  '05?  It's not like they're Bon Jovi.  The Goo Goo Dolls are touring, and are in fact playing the same venue in which I first saw Vanessa with them in '02(Jones Beach).  The opener is Michelle Branch.  I rest my case.  A local band can get a spot opening for band like FFF. 

And opening acts routinely get crappy sound and short sets.  I'm not familiar with the Ravinia venue, either the size or stature, and it cannot hurt to play it.  But....there is just no substitute for her own, small club tour.  A couple hundred seats.  The right local promotion can and has done it. 

It is already May.  Album's out in 7 weeks.  Is there a tour even in the works?  Anyone in touch with her management?  Is she doing radio?  Daytime talk shows?  Look, I'll gladly siddown and treat myself to a tall glass of stfu when things start happening, but someone show me where I'm off the mark.

VC deserves better, and as we have all seen her screwed, blued, and tattooed by the biz, it's painful to see things showing more signs of sucking.  I realize that even live shows have taken a hit due to the economy, but man, I just hope I'm wrong.


Dan/NS


This.
Title: Re: 7.22.11- Highland Park, IL- Ravinia Festival
Post by: sabasaba on May 04, 2011, 02:55:30 pm
I completely agree with Dan. No disrespect to Razor & Tie because, for one thing, they are an indie label, and for another, they are obviously doing the best they can. It just really frustrates me how under the radar V and her music is, when I know that she can do so much better, career-wise, with the proper marketing and promotion. Look at the iTunes single reviews for 'Carousel' - the song received 5/5 stars from all the listeners, and the written reviews clearly show that the general public is genuinely interested in both V and her music. I mean, damn, is it so difficult to try and get her to do a little promotion for the upcoming album? There are tons of talk shows/daytime talk shows that would host her to perform, not to mention magazines that could do pieces on her. I get that V's "not in it for the fame", and I respect that - but regardless, her music is beautiful and it should be heard and recognized. Hell, Vanessa herself needs to be recognized - God knows she freaking deserves to be. She's phenomenal, and I don't think it's so terrible and selfish of me to want to see her get the respect that she undoubtedly deserves from the music industry, especially after all these years of neglection.
Title: Re: 7.22.11- Highland Park, IL- Ravinia Festival
Post by: VaderDawsn on May 04, 2011, 05:41:59 pm
If it is any consolation, the latest Email on the official VC Mailing list that I received this morning mentioned official tour dates will be announced soon.
Title: Re: 7.22.11- Highland Park, IL- Ravinia Festival
Post by: itsthefiveofus on May 04, 2011, 06:04:02 pm
I'm just really mad that the only closest seats avaiable are $200+ and the cheapest are lawn seats so far away. I really want to see V since its been a few years since she's been to chicago *house of blues* BUT I don't have $200+ to shell out nor do I want to sit so far away where I won't even be able to hear/see her. ugh.  >:(

I REALLY hope she has a proper tour for this album. Nothing major but at least something!
Title: Re: 7.22.11- Highland Park, IL- Ravinia Festival
Post by: lavender skies on May 04, 2011, 06:14:37 pm
^That's how it is for me! THe last show I saw of hers was at the Chicago house of blues in like 2008, I think? I'm totally fine when I'm sitting lawn but when it's Vanessa I want to be upclose and not around a bunch of drunk people yelling for her to sing 1000 miles. I may just have to put in extra hours at work and buy the freaking 200 tickets.
Title: Re: 7.22.11- Highland Park, IL- Ravinia Festival
Post by: itsthefiveofus on May 04, 2011, 06:36:26 pm
exactly it was during the sumer. I liked that show! It was with a full band and everything. I wouldn't mind working more for those tickets but I have upcoming expenses that I am already working even more for. Its a vicious cycle! I just can't imagine Vanessa playing a show near me and me not being there though. UGH decisions!!!  :'(
Title: Re: 7.22.11- Highland Park, IL- Ravinia Festival
Post by: nutnlp on May 04, 2011, 10:06:47 pm
If I were you guys I'd wait until official dates are announced...anywhere shes opening for a well known artist shes probably playing her own shows in-between...lets just hope we get a bigger tour than we did w/ H&T.
Title: Re: 7.22.11- Highland Park, IL- Ravinia Festival
Post by: Martin. on May 05, 2011, 01:51:40 am
I hope she brings a band out with her on this tour. I'm getting bored of hearing just her, the piano and guitar/violin (even though it's all excellent). It'd be nice if she played some other old songs aswell. But at this rate, I'm just happy to see she's still performing so I'm not complaining too much.
Title: Re: 7.22.11- Highland Park, IL- Ravinia Festival
Post by: migmitch on May 10, 2011, 01:05:31 pm
Just an FYI, I live in Chicago and I know for a fact that the Chicago Public Library gives free ravina tickets away to library card holders...
Title: Re: 7.22.11- Highland Park, IL- Ravinia Festival
Post by: me and my piano---tim on May 10, 2011, 06:17:25 pm
i imagine the conversation went like this:

manager: Vanessa, how do you feel about opening for Five for Fighting??
Vanessa: Are you kidding me?? I LOVE them! Would be HONORED!
manager: then it's done!

i think some of you should stop freaking out. vanessa doesn't NEED more publicity. in case you haven't noticed, we live in a time where you don't have to be a superstar to be a successful musician. music isn't supposed to be about the money, or the fame, or who's opening or who's closing or anything like that. so many people on this site are so wrapped up in stuff that is seriously not important. I'm just annoyed by all this pointless ranting. Seriously, nessaholics have been making the same complaints for YEARS.

GET OVER IT ALREADY
Title: Re: 7.22.11- Highland Park, IL- Ravinia Festival
Post by: nosticker on May 11, 2011, 02:07:19 pm
i imagine the conversation went like this:

manager: Vanessa, how do you feel about opening for Five for Fighting??
Vanessa: Are you kidding me?? I LOVE them! Would be HONORED!
manager: then it's done!

i think some of you should stop freaking out. vanessa doesn't NEED more publicity. in case you haven't noticed, we live in a time where you don't have to be a superstar to be a successful musician. music isn't supposed to be about the money, or the fame, or who's opening or who's closing or anything like that. so many people on this site are so wrapped up in stuff that is seriously not important. I'm just annoyed by all this pointless ranting. Seriously, nessaholics have been making the same complaints for YEARS.

GET OVER IT ALREADY

I do have a point, which I have stated several times.  Vanessa DOES need more publicity, and deserves better.   She is amazing at what she does and should be rewarded for it.

I have NEVER accepted the BS that people aren't in it for the money.  That is some fairy tale crap dreamed up by a PR guy.  If you're not in it for the money, then play all your concerts for free and give away all your CD's or downloads.  Anyone who says they are not out there for some recognition for what they do is full of it. Why do it at all? Doing anything musically is a huge pain in the ass and costs money.  Even for little 'ol me, I decline certain gigs that don't pay a certain amount.  It takes a positive cash flow to be any kind of musician.....except down in the subway.  I'm not sure where you're getting your info from: people are DYING out here.

I'll agree with you on one thing: I know plenty of successful musicians who are not "superstars".  They are people happy to do studio work, tour, play weddings, give lessons, etc.  They are on millions of records, but they live in modest houses, waiting for the phone to ring.  Some of them are barely getting by in this economy.  That is the harsh reality of the biz.

Five For Fighting, in reality, does present an opportunity because they get play on the same radio stations that play ATM.
I'll just leave it at that.

Again, God Bless Razor & Tie.


Dan/NS
Title: Re: 07/22/11 Ravinia Festival - Highland Park, IL
Post by: HearMyBells on July 10, 2011, 02:26:25 pm
Is this worth going to? Has anyone been to a Vanessa opener?
Title: Re: 07/22/11 Ravinia Festival - Highland Park, IL
Post by: itsthefiveofus on July 11, 2011, 09:23:54 pm
Last time she came to these parts was in the summer, 08' I believe. There was an opener...forgot her name, then her, then the main guy. The previous year in November she had her own show. She had a pretty good set list when she opened last time she came around. I just don't know how much she would get now.

I am really contemplating going! I think I will have that day off work too. Anyone going, want to meet up or anything?
Title: Re: 07/22/11 Ravinia Festival - Highland Park, IL
Post by: HearMyBells on July 12, 2011, 06:57:32 am
I'm 70% sure I'm going haha. It really all depends on if she visits with fans after the show and if i can snag a poster : ) Has anyone been to an opener?
Title: Re: 07/22/11 Ravinia Festival - Highland Park, IL
Post by: itsthefiveofus on July 18, 2011, 02:07:25 pm
So is anyone going?!?
Title: Re: 07/22/11 Ravinia Festival - Highland Park, IL
Post by: asnigro on July 21, 2011, 07:26:17 pm
I'll be buying tickets off of craigslist and only staying for Vanessa as I have to drive to LaCrosse, WI for the weekend.  

I did the same thing when she opened for Stevie Nicks at Summerfest in 2005 I believe.  Pretty good show even though she played for 45 mins or so.  Im curious as to if this show will be starting right at 7:30pm or not.

I have never been to Ravinia though, wish I could stay for the whole show.

Title: Re: 07/22/11 Ravinia Festival - Highland Park, IL
Post by: itsthefiveofus on July 22, 2011, 10:05:33 am
She was just playing on WGN 9 news. She played ATM and Carousel. They mentioned she was playing tonight and stuff.
Title: Re: 07/22/11 Ravinia Festival - Highland Park, IL
Post by: sabasaba on July 22, 2011, 06:29:52 pm
They're selling the Rabbits vinyl at this show.
:(
Title: Re: 07/22/11 Ravinia Festival - Highland Park, IL
Post by: sabasaba on July 22, 2011, 06:34:21 pm
(http://i696.photobucket.com/albums/vv324/sabasaba/232hxf.jpg)

(http://i696.photobucket.com/albums/vv324/sabasaba/353091387.jpg)

Pretty good turnout! I'm seeing a lot of positive feedback on Twitter!
Title: Re: 07/22/11 Ravinia Festival - Highland Park, IL
Post by: nutnlp on July 22, 2011, 07:11:52 pm
lucky!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: 07/22/11 Ravinia Festival - Highland Park, IL
Post by: Byoungforever on July 23, 2011, 10:06:50 am
They're selling the Rabbits vinyl at this show.
:(

Do you know how much it was? I'm trying to get an idea of how much money I'll be dishing out next week... lol :)
Title: Re: 07/22/11 Ravinia Festival - Highland Park, IL
Post by: asnigro on July 26, 2011, 08:18:02 am
What did everyone think of the show?  Did anyone manage to jot down the set list?