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Title: Have you done it? hehe
Post by: xxjenniferxx on October 02, 2003, 06:31:22 pm
:mrgreen: I'm a virgin and not planning on have any sex until i feel whats right (I have to be in love...There has to be a special connection; either that or marriage and marriage for me is a long time..not rushing into any of that..so if a guy decides he is ready to have sex with me ...it would be a "miracle" i said yeah..)
Title: Have you done it? hehe
Post by: Lucy-san on October 02, 2003, 08:22:03 pm
haha I was gonna do this poll but I thought it might be too risque. but anyway....my answer is no...not a virgin  :oops:  as of only like two and a half weeks actually
Title: Have you done it? hehe
Post by: xxjenniferxx on October 02, 2003, 09:06:52 pm
whatcha blushing for...not  many virgins around anymore... lol that just makes me feeeel wonderful though....

 :wink:
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Post by: Holly on October 02, 2003, 10:26:25 pm
yeah i am... i'm not one to just give myself away easily... so until i find the right guy, it'll probabably stay that way.
this is a very risque poll... lol
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Post by: notagirl on October 03, 2003, 08:46:34 am
:oops: I am a virgin but proud.
Title: Have you done it? hehe
Post by: Grakthis on October 03, 2003, 09:25:11 am
Quote from: "Lucy-san"
haha I was gonna do this poll but I thought it might be too risque. but anyway....my answer is no...not a virgin  :oops:  as of only like two and a half weeks actually


Aw.  How cute.  She's blushing

I hope you're of legal age.  And so is he.  Or there's gonna be a whoopin!  :wink:
---Andrew
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Post by: Layla on October 03, 2003, 09:58:04 am
8O yes i am, i'm only 15, why would i not want to be?
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Post by: xxjenniferxx on October 04, 2003, 09:29:02 am
:wink: hehe
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Post by: Blake on October 04, 2003, 10:02:38 am
Should I answer...?
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Post by: Mountaineer on October 04, 2003, 11:07:38 am
i am a virgin and im not afraid to say it but its kinda embarrasing :oops:
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Post by: Lucy-san on October 04, 2003, 11:11:14 am
Quote from: "Grakthis"
Quote from: "Lucy-san"
haha I was gonna do this poll but I thought it might be too risque. but anyway....my answer is no...not a virgin  :oops:  as of only like two and a half weeks actually


Aw.  How cute.  She's blushing

I hope you're of legal age.  And so is he.  Or there's gonna be a whoopin!  :wink:
---Andrew


well I'm not legal age where most people come from lol but up here in ol' canada the age of consent is 14. and my boyfriend is 20 so its all good. :)
Title: Have you done it? hehe
Post by: PIBby on October 04, 2003, 12:36:38 pm
Of course I've had sex . . .







 8O







. . . ually transmitted disease pamphlets given to me.

No, I haven't. I don't really plan on it 'til laterrr (no, yesterday, 'cause 13 year old girls are alwas having sex up in here). This is gonna sound bad on my part, but I think pre-marital sex is perfectly fine, when you're old enough. Oh, and as long as it's with someone of the opposite sex.

Yeah. That's it.
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Post by: Lucy-san on October 04, 2003, 12:42:14 pm
Quote from: "PIBby"
Oh, and as long as it's with someone of the opposite sex.


thats not very nice
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Post by: Holly on October 04, 2003, 12:46:42 pm
Quote from: "Lucy-san"
Quote from: "PIBby"
Oh, and as long as it's with someone of the opposite sex.


thats not very nice


yeah... thats not nice.
Title: Have you done it? hehe
Post by: PIBby on October 04, 2003, 12:46:51 pm
The point of sex is to pro-create. How can 2 men or 2 women pro-create?

lo lo lo

And it is nice! 'Cause I'm nice. Like the Lolipop Guild. I represent it.
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Post by: badsrx7 on October 04, 2003, 12:47:58 pm
Well, if that's how she feels.. that's how she feels..

doesn't really matter how nice it is to you..
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Post by: Lucy-san on October 04, 2003, 12:49:04 pm
I dunno about anyone else but my purpose in having sex isn't to procreate ...at the moment at least
Title: Have you done it? hehe
Post by: Lucy-san on October 04, 2003, 12:50:47 pm
Quote from: "badsrx7"
doesn't really matter how nice it is to you..


I suppose not...i'm just inclined to take it personally
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Post by: PIBby on October 04, 2003, 12:52:07 pm
This is just a whole opinionated thing. Neither of us is going to be able to prove we're right, so let's just end it here.

Weeeeeee representttt the Lolipop GUILD! The Lolipop GUILD! The Lolipop GUILD!
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Post by: Lucy-san on October 04, 2003, 12:55:21 pm
I know...sorry. it just riles me up because my twin brother and my boyfriends brother are both good friends of mine...and they're not so much virgins as they are not virgins...and they didn't so much lose their virginity with girls as they did with each other.
Title: Have you done it? hehe
Post by: PIBby on October 04, 2003, 01:00:41 pm
Then they're technically still virgins.
Title: Have you done it? hehe
Post by: Lucy-san on October 04, 2003, 01:05:34 pm
i think our modern society has redefined virgin
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Post by: Lucy-san on October 04, 2003, 04:45:58 pm
Quote from: "xxjenniferxx"
not  many virgins around anymore...


where I'm from, people who are my age are all virgins. thats why I was blushing...why did everyone find that so strange? isn't a blush for a situation where you do something embarassing? isn't something embarassing often something thats out of the norm?
Title: Have you done it? hehe
Post by: xxjenniferxx on October 04, 2003, 06:16:49 pm
Quote from: "danielmarko"
Should I answer...?


yes..lol silly j/k
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Post by: Tiger Baby on October 04, 2003, 06:17:29 pm
Lets see...I'm 14...Am I a virgin? No, I am not....Oh wait yes I am.
Title: Have you done it? hehe
Post by: xxjenniferxx on October 04, 2003, 06:20:48 pm
Quote from: "Lucy-san"
Quote from: "xxjenniferxx"
not  many virgins around anymore...


where I'm from, people who are my age are all virgins. thats why I was blushing...why did everyone find that so strange? isn't a blush for a situation where you do something embarassing? isn't something embarassing often something thats out of the norm?


but you shouldnt be embarassed.....hehe :razz: you are a perfectly normal girl.....theres nothing wrong with that...(*ahem* ) if you felt you were ready then i respect that..nothing to be ashame of
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Post by: Lucy-san on October 04, 2003, 06:23:33 pm
well I'm not going to deny that I am slightly ashamed...but it definitely has nothing to do with the notion of not being ready.
Title: Have you done it? hehe
Post by: xxjenniferxx on October 04, 2003, 06:26:55 pm
Alright lucy san..lol hehe
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Post by: Lucy-san on October 04, 2003, 06:39:47 pm
whats that supposed to mean?
Title: Have you done it? hehe
Post by: xxjenniferxx on October 04, 2003, 06:46:54 pm
Quote from: "Lucy-san"
whats that supposed to mean?


lol what, it means i'm alright with what you just said...its "ok"...what else is it suppose to mean?
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Post by: Lucy-san on October 04, 2003, 06:51:43 pm
its the part other than alright that confuses me
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Post by: xxjenniferxx on October 04, 2003, 06:56:13 pm
:rotcol:  whatever you say ...whatever you say *sigh
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Post by: Lucy-san on October 04, 2003, 06:59:40 pm
omg I'm so sorry...I'm being the biggest whiniest bitch...I'm just in a really foul irritable mood. tofay has been really bad for lots of reasons I wont bother you with. Anyway, whatever I say today probaly doesnt reflect my true feelings.
Title: Have you done it? hehe
Post by: xxjenniferxx on October 04, 2003, 07:00:59 pm
Quote from: "Lucy-san"
omg I'm so sorry...I'm being the biggest whiniest bitch...I'm just in a really foul irritable mood. tofay has been really bad for lots of reasons I wont bother you with. Anyway, whatever I say today probaly doesnt reflect my true feelings.



yea i know that..........its ok though....i dont think you're being mean at all... you seem nice to me :wink:
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Post by: Lucy-san on October 04, 2003, 07:05:27 pm
ok...I dont want to  be mean. so i hope i never am.
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Post by: xxjenniferxx on October 04, 2003, 07:08:23 pm
lol you're not mean..but i do get the feeling something is bothering you...but anyhow we all have our bad days..so i completely understand...no worries.. :wink:
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Post by: Lucy-san on October 04, 2003, 07:32:10 pm
One thing thats bothering me is this:
Quote from: "PIBby"
Oh, and as long as it's with someone of the opposite sex.


And I know we all have our right to opinions and I definitely dont believe in censorship to make everything completely politically sound. but sometimes you use common sense and know what and what not to say when it comes to prejudice against people.
But I'm not going to blame and be worried with an outspoken 13 year old who has yet to learn about some of these things...although the fact that shes in an ecclesiastic environment is disconcerting...and perhaps it has more to do with that then her boldness. That does worry me.


and there are many other significant things bothering me right now too.
Title: Have you done it? hehe
Post by: xxjenniferxx on October 04, 2003, 08:16:31 pm
hehe..that bothers you?..i wouldnt let that worry me....not atleast one bit..
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Post by: tylor2000 on October 04, 2003, 09:48:21 pm
The great virgin thread.....started by a virgin.......

Yee to all virgins.

Virgins make great ceremonial offerrings. You know like the volcano type? :twisted:

Ok, I guess you know if I'm a virgin or not now.

tylor
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Post by: zurielshimon on October 05, 2003, 12:20:23 am
I refuse to discuss homosexuality because I know I'll make people on both sides of the issue mad. 8)
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Post by: Grakthis on October 05, 2003, 06:16:43 am
Quote from: "PIBby"
I think pre-marital sex is perfectly fine, when you're old enough. Oh, and as long as it's with someone of the opposite sex.


*shocked*

The super catholic says premaritcal sex is ok?
---Andrew
Title: Have you done it? hehe
Post by: Grakthis on October 05, 2003, 06:22:51 am
Quote from: "Lucy-san"
where I'm from, people who are my age are all virgins. thats why I was blushing...why did everyone find that so strange? isn't a blush for a situation where you do something embarassing? isn't something embarassing often something thats out of the norm?


Well.... around here 15 is pretty borderline, but not abnormal.

Now the fact that your BF is 20 is REALLY sketchy.  Not to start an entire argument over this (cause I am just stating personal experience, which is not something you can debate), but most 20 year olds who date 15 year olds have serious maturity issues.  That is a huge age gap when you're in your teen years.  In fact, if you were a friend of mine I'd kick his ass for being a pedophile.  Throw in the fact that the guy is a DJ and it makes me fairly confident that he's sketchy......
---Andrew
Title: Have you done it? hehe
Post by: xxjenniferxx on October 05, 2003, 09:56:43 am
what the heck....that is statutory rape..
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Post by: Lucy-san on October 05, 2003, 12:00:46 pm
no not in Canada...and hes not "sketchy". period. nor does he have maturity issues. and hes definitely not a pedophile.
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Post by: Will on October 05, 2003, 01:36:42 pm
Quote from: "Grakthis"
The super catholic says premaritcal sex is ok?


And the Super-I-have-no-idea-what-denomination-I-am-anymore Christian says there is no such thing as premarital sex. I'm too lazy to break out my Bible right now, but the Bible says sex=marrage. Paul said something about how a prostitute has many husbands because she is married to all the guys she ever slept with.

Then of course, there are other verses that could be taken in the traditional sense.... but I'm right and everyone else is wrong. :wink:
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Post by: Holly on October 05, 2003, 03:30:53 pm
Quote from: "m125 Boy"
Quote from: "Grakthis"
The super catholic says premaritcal sex is ok?


And the Super-I-have-no-idea-what-denomination-I-am-anymore Christian says there is no such thing as premarital sex. I'm too lazy to break out my Bible right now, but the Bible says sex=marrage. Paul said something about how a prostitute has many husbands because she is married to all the guys she ever slept with.

Then of course, there are other verses that could be taken in the traditional sense.... but I'm right and everyone else is wrong. :wink:


whoa, ive never heard of that before!
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Post by: LimeTwister on October 05, 2003, 03:44:44 pm
Quote from: "Grakthis"
Quote from: "Lucy-san"
where I'm from, people who are my age are all virgins. thats why I was blushing...why did everyone find that so strange? isn't a blush for a situation where you do something embarassing? isn't something embarassing often something thats out of the norm?


Well.... around here 15 is pretty borderline, but not abnormal.



jamie is 15?

and i am a virgin..yay for me...or maybe not?
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Post by: KULPDOGG on October 05, 2003, 03:47:39 pm
WoAH!
im confused!
you asked like 3 questions
so i just voted 'yes' ..and i hope that was the one to pick of you are a virgin... :?
Title: Have you done it? hehe
Post by: Holly on October 05, 2003, 04:00:11 pm
it looks like the majority of people here are virgins... lol, atleast the ones who have taken the poll.
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Post by: Tia on October 06, 2003, 04:40:19 am
I'm 13...what d'you think?
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Post by: Grakthis on October 06, 2003, 06:43:22 am
Quote from: "m125 Boy"
And the Super-I-have-no-idea-what-denomination-I-am-anymore Christian says there is no such thing as premarital sex. I'm too lazy to break out my Bible right now, but the Bible says sex=marrage. Paul said something about how a prostitute has many husbands because she is married to all the guys she ever slept with.

Then of course, there are other verses that could be taken in the traditional sense.... but I'm right and everyone else is wrong. :wink:


I have heard that interpretation before.  Because apparently back in the day it was unthinkable to have sex with someone and then NOT spend the rest of your life with them.  If you did, there was a good shot you were in for a stoneing.

However, the modern catholic church (not the bible) uses the modern definition of marriage... and since CeCe is a catholic, that is what is important.
---Andrew
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Post by: Grakthis on October 06, 2003, 06:46:01 am
Quote from: "kiisnsync"
it looks like the majority of people here are virgins... lol, atleast the ones who have taken the poll.


because most of the people who aren't wouldn't bother coming into the thread.... I, however, I am extremely nosy  :wink:
---Andrew
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Post by: Grakthis on October 06, 2003, 06:47:21 am
Quote from: "Lucy-san"
no not in Canada...and hes not "sketchy". period. nor does he have maturity issues. and hes definitely not a pedophile.


I don't know your BF or anything about him.... but in the spirit of GENUINE concern,  I want to throw out a "be careful".  Typically, the situation you are describing ends VERY badly for the girl.
---Andrew
Title: I procreated!
Post by: spAce on October 06, 2003, 11:28:56 am
That's right.  io has an io-Jr.  He is 8.  Anyway, His Mom was my first when I was like 21.  I am cool with that.  As much as I wanted to have sex since I was 12 or 13, I am glad that I didn't till later.  Also,  I am totally down with sex with some one you really adore.  I am not too hip on hooking up with chix from clubs and doing that whole scene.

I just want one really sweet gal...(Cangirl)
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Post by: PIBby on October 06, 2003, 03:05:00 pm
Andrew, the more I'm on here, and the more you and I talk, the more you're going to realize that Cece does and agrees with a lot of things the Church doesn't approve of.
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Post by: Lucy-san on October 06, 2003, 03:22:21 pm
Quote from: "Grakthis"

I don't know your BF or anything about him.... but in the spirit of GENUINE concern, I want to throw out a "be careful".


i know...i understand because I go through this with a lot of people....and thanks...its not that I dont want to listen to your "be careful"...its just that I've heard so many by now that it really makes no difference to my caution...in fact I was predisposed enough to be cautious in the first place that no ones "be careful" has made any difference.

and I dont see how most of the situations like the one I'm in turn out bad...how would that be?
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Post by: PIBby on October 06, 2003, 03:32:29 pm
I think what Andrew is trying to say, is your age difference is - You don't normally find a 15 year old girl dating a 20 year old guy. Not that there's anything wrong with it, but you just don't usually see it. And sometimes when you do hear of that, relationships, they don't last very long because of the ages, and because if the guy is 5 or so years older than the girl, and especially if they're both that young, the guy isn't going to be as responsible. That's not always the case though, so don't think I'm being stereotypical or anything. :D

Plus, if you all love each other - That's really good, so. And Andrew's just trying to forewarn you so you're not hurt (not that he's sure you will be).
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Post by: Lucy-san on October 06, 2003, 04:53:06 pm
ok gotcha!  

I can see and understand what you mean, and I would probably think the same. But our circumstance is pretty unique. I dont really get along with anyone my age. We'd been friends for several years before we got together because I hung out with one of my older sister's (and his) friends. So we share lots of mutual friends and I dont think theres much maturity discrepancy, or its not an issue I hope. and we've been going out for over six months now, which I think by my age groups standard is pretty good. and yes we do all love each other  

Quote from: "LimeTwister"

jamie is 15?


yep...what did you think?
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Post by: LimeTwister on October 06, 2003, 05:08:14 pm
this won't help andrew's point of view lol, but i thought you were like 20.
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Post by: Holly on October 06, 2003, 05:28:00 pm
we were talking about this in religion today... lol
i heard an interesting point. several people have regreted having sex too soon but not one person has regreted waiting. and people who do have sex in HS or younger are 2 or 3 times as likely to be depressed.
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Post by: xxjenniferxx on October 06, 2003, 05:37:20 pm
i cant believe this thread is still at the top.. :lol:
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Post by: JazzyManda on October 06, 2003, 05:39:46 pm
no offense to anyone... i'm just sharing my opinion but,
i don't think teens should have sex, period. seems down right idiotic to me. but, i guess if you're a risk taker, it doens't really matter what age you are.

yes, i'm a virgin and will be for a while. i believe in the whole wait-till-you're-20-and-are-in-love kind of thing.

Amanda
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Post by: xxjenniferxx on October 06, 2003, 05:44:14 pm
Quote from: "JazzyManda"
no offense to anyone... i'm just sharing my opinion but,
i don't think teens should have sex, period. seems down right idiotic to me. but, i guess if you're a risk taker, it doens't really matter what age you are.

yes, i'm a virgin and will be for a while. i believe in the whole wait-till-you're-20-and-are-in-love kind of thing.

Amanda


yea i agree..or atleast until marriage people! :wink: if i'm gonna make a mistake i sure as hell dont want it to have anything to do with sex..i dont just give myself to "anyone"..i guess some dont know how special it could be..but IMO..
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Post by: Grakthis on October 07, 2003, 05:55:43 am
Quote from: "Lucy-san"
I can see and understand what you mean, and I would probably think the same. But our circumstance is pretty unique. I dont really get along with anyone my age. We'd been friends for several years before we got together because I hung out with one of my older sister's (and his) friends. So we share lots of mutual friends and I dont think theres much maturity discrepancy, or its not an issue I hope. and we've been going out for over six months now, which I think by my age groups standard is pretty good. and yes we do all love each other  


Yeah, CeCe hit it on the head.  there are exceptions to EVERY rule, but as a almost every girl I knew in HS who dated a guy in this 20's ended up getting cheated on, mistreated, physically abused, pregnant and abandoned or worse.  So while things may work out fine for you, the pure statistics are against it.

The only relationship I know of where an age difference like your worked out was a 23 year old and an 18 year old and they are currently engaged.  But they are the BIG exception cause the 23 year old is a real stand up guy.
---Andrew
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Post by: Grakthis on October 07, 2003, 05:57:59 am
Quote from: "kiisnsync"
we were talking about this in religion today... lol
i heard an interesting point. several people have regreted having sex too soon but not one person has regreted waiting . and people who do have sex in HS or younger are 2 or 3 times as likely to be depressed.


Ummmmm MANY MANY MANY people regret waiting.  I know atleast 3 girls who regreted waiting too long and one who STILL regrets it.

It's easier to get it out of the wya when you are young and awkwardness is expected.  When you get in your 20's and meet someone your partner is going to EXPECT you to be atleast competent.  Most guys in their 20's don't want to have sex with a virgin because of the guilt factor that goes along with it.
---Andrew
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Post by: jessica73 on October 07, 2003, 09:22:29 am
Quote from: "JazzyManda"
no offense to anyone... i'm just sharing my opinion but,
i don't think teens should have sex, period. seems down right idiotic to me. but, i guess if you're a risk taker, it doens't really matter what age you are.

yes, i'm a virgin and will be for a while. i believe in the whole wait-till-you're-20-and-are-in-love kind of thing.

Amanda


No, you should wait until you're like 30 or something... at least what my parents would say. :)
PErsonally, you really can't know how you truly feel about someone when youre 13, 14, 15 And the fact that all these kids are getting knocked up this young is disconcerting. We already have 6 billion people in the world. No need to add more right now, really.
You have your whole life to do, well  that, and in the meantime you could be doing something much more crunk like playing video games :D
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Post by: Grakthis on October 07, 2003, 12:56:24 pm
Quote from: "ihaveacrushondivasteph"
and in the meantime you could be doing something much more crunk like playing video games :D


Video Games > Sex?

I've played a lot of good video games, but that my dear friend, is NOT a leap I would make.
---Andrew
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Post by: jessica73 on October 07, 2003, 02:03:13 pm
All I know is A Gamecube won't leave you with little Game Boys running around or give you STD's :)
It's just that sex is fine and all, but not when you're like our age, because it impacts you so much on a physical and emotional scale and some people may not be able to handle that the way they would a few years later.
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Post by: xxjenniferxx on October 07, 2003, 02:47:31 pm
Alright..30? lol that seems okay but i would rather not wait till that minute your partner may need to spread out the viagra....being the virgin i am, i hope to expierence my first time with someone who will make me truly happy, not soon, but soon enough.....(atleast not when i'm 38 0r 45)...hehe....i'll just feel completely wasted and besides i want it to be beautiful (and not like in those romantic movies....which is overrated)..i like video games though..i think its the better solution then whats being shown in theater's these days..or on late night tv....

Besides most guys just seems to want to get off for the pleasure of it though..i dont want to feel used..i want everything worthy of it all....trust me if i wanted to have sex so desperately now i could go knock on any guys door and i bet i wont get turned down..that is how sick the world can be today..for the most part some thinks sex is funny to play with..its def. not...i would rather regret waiting then regret having a baby or catching some std......etc.
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Post by: Grakthis on October 08, 2003, 06:18:31 am
Quote from: "ihaveacrushondivasteph"
All I know is A Gamecube won't leave you with little Game Boys running around or give you STD's :)
It's just that sex is fine and all, but not when you're like our age, because it impacts you so much on a physical and emotional scale and some people may not be able to handle that the way they would a few years later.


Valid.  If a person feels uncomfortable about sex on an emtional level then her or she should wait a few years.  I agree completely.

And I guess if you are waiting a few years, video games is as good a way to wait as any!

And if my gamecube ever game me the Clap, i'd be most displeased  :wink:
---Andrew
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Post by: Grakthis on October 08, 2003, 06:21:48 am
Quote from: "xxjenniferxx"
Besides most guys just seems to want to get off for the pleasure of it though..i dont want to feel used..i want everything worthy of it all....trust me if i wanted to have sex so desperately now i could go knock on any guys door and i bet i wont get turned down..that is how sick the world can be today..for the most part some thinks sex is funny to play with..its def. not...i would rather regret waiting then regret having a baby or catching some std......etc.


How do you know sex isn't "funny to play with"?  You've never had sex!

Just because YOU view sex as something special doesn't mean everyone has to.  To some people it's nothing but pleasure, and I think that's just as valid as viewing sex as a sign of love.

if you practice safe sex and make sure your partner is in it for the same reason as you, then everything will be perfectly fine.
---Andrew
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Post by: Si on October 08, 2003, 06:57:25 am
*sigh...

just say you did or didn't do it
:roll:
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Post by: xxjenniferxx on October 08, 2003, 07:00:04 am
Quote from: "Grakthis"
Quote from: "xxjenniferxx"
Besides most guys just seems to want to get off for the pleasure of it though..i dont want to feel used..i want everything worthy of it all....trust me if i wanted to have sex so desperately now i could go knock on any guys door and i bet i wont get turned down..that is how sick the world can be today..for the most part some thinks sex is funny to play with..its def. not...i would rather regret waiting then regret having a baby or catching some std......etc.


How do you know sex isn't "funny to play with"?  You've never had sex!

Just because YOU view sex as something special doesn't mean everyone has to.  To some people it's nothing but pleasure, and I think that's just as valid as viewing sex as a sign of love.

if you practice safe sex and make sure your partner is in it for the same reason as you, then everything will be perfectly fine.
---Andrew

Okay thats fine, andrew i am not going to ramble about it anymore...lol because you are right...yea so i never had sex..(which is good for me).......sooo what the hell would i know.........*pouts*
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Post by: zurielshimon on October 11, 2003, 01:49:39 am
I will concede that some people see sex as just a thing for pleasure, but I will not accept that viewpoint as valid.  Some people write bad checks to buy things that they really need.  Maybe they need the things, but the check is not valid.
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Post by: jessica73 on October 11, 2003, 10:07:23 am
Quote from: "Simone Sarah"
*sigh...

just say you did or didn't do it
:roll:

Did you? :razz:
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Post by: Si on October 11, 2003, 01:16:49 pm
Quote from: "ihaveacrushondivasteph"
Quote from: "Simone Sarah"
*sigh...

just say you did or didn't do it
:roll:

Did you? :razz:


What do you think...?
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Post by: jessica73 on October 11, 2003, 04:23:44 pm
Quote from: "Simone Sarah"
Quote from: "ihaveacrushondivasteph"
Quote from: "Simone Sarah"
*sigh...

just say you did or didn't do it
:roll:

Did you? :razz:


What do you think...?


I don't know, I didn't really think 'bout it... but I would assume so.
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Post by: Si on October 12, 2003, 12:26:23 am
Quote from: "ihaveacrushondivasteph"
Quote from: "Simone Sarah"
Quote from: "ihaveacrushondivasteph"
Quote from: "Simone Sarah"
*sigh...

just say you did or didn't do it
:roll:

Did you? :razz:


What do you think...?


I don't know, I didn't really think 'bout it... but I would assume so.


lol
I'm 24
!!
I mean, sheesh
Hahahaha
;)
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Post by: jessica73 on October 12, 2003, 08:26:11 am
I predict I'll be 24 and still be a virgin ;_; I think I'll go become a nun.
 8)
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Post by: OlivierDetraz on October 13, 2003, 05:20:52 pm
Interesting thread... :P
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Post by: CheapandEvilgrl on October 13, 2003, 07:14:32 pm
Quote from: "Grakthis"

Ummmmm MANY MANY MANY people regret waiting.  I know atleast 3 girls who regreted waiting too long and one who STILL regrets it.

---Andrew


hmmmm interesting.  Is that only because of insecurity when dating more experienced people or other reasons too?
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Post by: Lucy-san on October 13, 2003, 07:17:32 pm
they also regret all those years of supreme pleasure that they could have had. :)

sorry...I'm bad.
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Post by: Si on October 14, 2003, 06:24:27 am
Quote from: "Lucy-san"
they also regret all those years of supreme pleasure that they could have had. :)

sorry...I'm bad.


lmao
you're waaaaayyy too young to be thinking such things!
;)
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Post by: xxjenniferxx on October 14, 2003, 06:48:51 am
Quote from: "Simone Sarah"
Quote from: "Lucy-san"
they also regret all those years of supreme pleasure that they could have had. :)

sorry...I'm bad.


lmao
you're waaaaayyy too young to be thinking such things!
;)



lol she's been thru it all....anywho si is right too young to be thinking such things... :D
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Post by: Grakthis on October 14, 2003, 07:18:21 am
Quote from: "CheapandEvilgrl"
hmmmm interesting.  Is that only because of insecurity when dating more experienced people or other reasons too?


99% of it is.

Some girls get all panicky when they are 20+ and date a guy who is 20+ and the guy has clearly had sex many times and the girl is still a virgin.  Or for that matter, I know a situation where that's reversed (guy is virgin, girl is not)  They get scared that their partner will expect sex and dump him or her if he or she wont put out.  They get scared that when they do try to have sex with their partner they won't get it right, or they will be bad in bed.  etc etc etc.

Personally, I don't consider myself a complete prick... but if I go out with a girl my age for a month and shes STILL not putting out then she'd have to be REAL special for me to stick with her any longer than that.
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Post by: PIBby on October 14, 2003, 10:55:10 am
That's terrible.

You know . . . We don't exactly LIKE to "put out" that easily.

Lol, joking . . . About the "yelling" part. Not about the . . . Right.
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Post by: VanessaLover03 on October 14, 2003, 09:20:34 pm
lol...maybe.... *shifty eyes* :roll:
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Post by: xxjenniferxx on October 15, 2003, 09:05:57 am
will this thread ever die huh huh
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Post by: OlivierDetraz on October 15, 2003, 09:06:57 am
Quote from: "xxjenniferxx"
will this thread every die huh huh


Die? Why? :wink:
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Post by: xxjenniferxx on October 15, 2003, 09:52:54 am
:D because...i said so
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Post by: Lucy-san on October 15, 2003, 09:28:35 pm
no way! its too juicy jenn :)
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Post by: OlivierDetraz on October 18, 2003, 06:38:14 am
Bump... :lol:
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Post by: loveplasticlove on October 18, 2003, 07:04:25 am
Quote from: "Grakthis"


Personally, I don't consider myself a complete prick... but if I go out with a girl my age for a month and shes STILL not putting out then she'd have to be REAL special for me to stick with her any longer than that.



haha wow you are so patient. ;)
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Post by: Grakthis on October 19, 2003, 07:53:18 pm
Quote from: "loveplasticlove"
haha wow you are so patient. ;)


Ah.  I've trained you well my sweet *pets "nichole".
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Post by: Manda on January 12, 2004, 07:50:43 pm
yes, I am a virgin, and when I really feel that the person I am with is the person I want to lose my virginity to, is "the one" for me, then I'll do "it"

Manda

*hides virgin head in shame...*
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Post by: vt on May 26, 2004, 11:25:05 am
I'm a virgin too!  And even though I am a guy I'm not ashamed lol!!
:lol:
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Post by: Chloe on May 26, 2004, 02:25:11 pm
I'm only 15... I'm waiting till i'm ready and sure of myself. i think your teens is too young to lose your virginity... but that's just my oppinion.
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Post by: vt on May 26, 2004, 02:31:26 pm
Quote from: "afallingstar"
i think your teens is too young to lose your virginity... but that's just my oppinion.


i agree
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Post by: PIBby on May 27, 2004, 09:54:41 am
I love this thread!

Anyway . . . If you love somebody . . . What's wrong with having sex? IF you love them. This is the one thing I disagree with the Church on. I mean, back in the day, when there was no formal way to be married, did the people who procreated go to hell? Was THAT sex considered a sin? You can't change it just because a law is created that says THIS is when you're married. So, like I said, when you're in love . . . Go for it. ;)

EDIT: I also want to clear this up - Subtract the use of a condom or any other form of birth control, because that's just saying I want to have sex but not have a kid. When the fact of the matter is, you can avoid getting pregnant because women are only capable of being pregnant 24 - 76 hours out of the month. So . . . Have sex, don't use birth control, and if you get STDs - It's not my problem. Hopefully, however, if you DO decide to have sex before you're married, because of the fact you love the person enough to fuck them, you'll love them enough to stay with them, right? Right, so there's not a BIG risk of spread STDs if my plan works.
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Post by: Scotty on May 27, 2004, 10:01:23 am
Quote from: "prettybaby!"
Quote from: "afallingstar"
i think your teens is too young to lose your virginity... but that's just my oppinion.


i agree


I disagree I think late teens/early 20 somethings is perfectly fine.
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Post by: neos on May 27, 2004, 11:40:59 am
Quote from: "Grakthis"
It's easier to get it out of the wya when you are young and awkwardness is expected.  When you get in your 20's and meet someone your partner is going to EXPECT you to be atleast competent.  Most guys in their 20's don't want to have sex with a virgin because of the guilt factor that goes along with it.

and
Quote from: "Grakthis"
Some girls get all panicky when they are 20+ and date a guy who is 20+ and the guy has clearly had sex many times and the girl is still a virgin.  Or for that matter, I know a situation where that's reversed (guy is virgin, girl is not)  They get scared that their partner will expect sex and dump him or her if he or she wont put out.  They get scared that when they do try to have sex with their partner they won't get it right, or they will be bad in bed.  etc etc etc.


Wow, you know, Andrew, it's so much easier to agree with you when you're not talking politics ;)
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Post by: Will on May 27, 2004, 09:18:38 pm
Pibby:

The Catholic prohibition on birth control is pretty stupid. It's not scriptural either. The rhythm method is not effective at all. Your church lies to you about it. Sex for pleasure but not for procreation a sin? Jerome was a friggin killjoy. Geeze. Again, not scriptural.
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Post by: jlmusicchick on May 28, 2004, 07:44:46 am
Quote from: "m125 Boy"
Pibby:

The Catholic prohibition on birth control is pretty stupid. It's not scriptural either. The rhythm method is not effective at all. Your church lies to you about it. Sex for pleasure but not for procreation a sin? Jerome was a friggin killjoy. Geeze. Again, not scriptural.


there are a lot of rules in the catholic church that aren't scriptural :-P

i don't really have that much of opinion about sex....it's not something i'd do just for the hell of it, but i don't think that it should impounded into our brains as something inappropriate to talk about, you know? like growing up they'd tell us that if you had sex before marriage you were bound to go Hell in a hand basket. *stopsrambling*
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Post by: PIBby on May 28, 2004, 07:47:48 am
My favourite is when they tell you that if you have sex before marriage, that person DEFINITELY has an STD, and you'll contract it and die.

'Sgotta be the best.
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Post by: jlmusicchick on May 28, 2004, 07:52:52 am
Quote from: "PIBby"
My favourite is when they tell you that if you have sex before marriage, that person DEFINITELY has an STD, and you'll contract it and die.

'Sgotta be the best.


haha oh yes. i remember in Sunday school watching "the Abstinance" video. such crap. i'm definitely not for abstinance only teaching, but that's a whole other subject
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Post by: PIBby on May 28, 2004, 07:59:04 am
I don't see how keeping your virginity for God is as great as people say it is. I mean . . . "Yeah, I'll be a prudish bitch (a nun), but since I've not had sex (probably because I'm too ugly to), I'm going to heaven."

So much bullshit.
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Post by: vt on May 28, 2004, 12:21:36 pm
I think I'll start having sex when I'm like, 18 or 19. lol.

Just thought I'd share.
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Post by: Scotty on May 28, 2004, 01:02:24 pm
Quote from: "prettybaby!"
I think I'll start having sex when I'm like, 18 or 19. lol.

Just thought I'd share.


weird way to decide :?
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Post by: Tia on May 28, 2004, 01:57:08 pm
Quote from: "Scotty"
Quote from: "prettybaby!"
I think I'll start having sex when I'm like, 18 or 19. lol.

Just thought I'd share.


weird way to decide :?


Yuh huh... :?
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Post by: vt on May 28, 2004, 03:18:09 pm
Quote from: "Tia"
Quote from: "Scotty"
Quote from: "prettybaby!"
I think I'll start having sex when I'm like, 18 or 19. lol.

Just thought I'd share.


weird way to decide :?


Yuh huh... :?


Yeah, but I'm also gonna make sure I'm in love!
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Post by: NESSAussie on May 20, 2005, 06:05:12 am
Quote from: "vt"
Yeah, but I'm also gonna make sure I'm in love!

That's an honorable choice to make given the odds of such outcomes today :P
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Post by: brokenbracelet on May 23, 2005, 08:26:42 am
lol that was quite an interesting read...

I'm 19, I'm not a virgin, as of February this year. I don't regret it.
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Post by: Emmyspiano on May 24, 2005, 06:41:39 pm
:oops:  :oops:  :oops: *walks slowly away*
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Post by: rainforestspirit on May 30, 2005, 08:32:00 pm
While I love how Emmy left this post "be sexy it doesn't mean you have to have sex". Great Emmy!!!  It's very true! :D

I just wanted to add something…..

I have given advise to others since I am 25 so....please don't let anyone else tell you whether it is right or wrong. You are the only one who can know if it is best for you. It's your choice to decide if it is the right person, right age, right time, right place, ect...But please listen to your heart and not your hormones. And think about it sometime when you aren't around that person. Then you will know if it is "right" for you or not. If you wait until it feels right for you, not for your friends or anyone else, then you won't regret it. And it will be one of the best, most special moments of your entire life. (or maybe so I am told  :wink: I won't say one way or the other the answer to this question).  If it is not right for one of you, it’s not right for either of you. If the other person doesn’t respect that, s/he isn’t worth it. And either way, please be safe.

The only reason I am not answering is because in my opinion I think this is very personal and should only be known by two people. Other than this, I think it is very unfair that our society thinks that girls should be embarrassed to be a virgin and guys should be embarrassed to NOT be a virgin.

Okay, just my opinion. Of course everyone has the right to their own on this touchy subject.
~Carly
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Post by: NESSAussie on May 31, 2005, 06:40:11 am
Meanwhile there's at least 20 peeps here Vanessa could use for Unicorn bait :P
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Post by: Ivy Lynne on June 19, 2005, 02:27:24 pm
those of you who havent had sex, good for you. I would give anything to be a virgin again. hold on to it, once its gone, its gone.
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Post by: Emmyspiano on June 19, 2005, 03:36:24 pm
Sex is such a fun topic  :D

Well, I have had sex  :oops:  yes Im only 15. I dont have any regrets only that I still Im really young. Sometimes I feel like I should of waited. Even if me and him break up, I know we'll always care about eachother. But anyways I know my siggy says otherwise it's because: 1. Nessa Looked hot in that picture and 2. I dont want anyone getting hurt or feeling like they made the wrong decision.

So dont be willy, wrap your willy  :thumbsup:
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Post by: Emmyspiano on June 19, 2005, 03:38:16 pm
Quote from: "rainforestspirit"
While I love how Emmy left this post "be sexy it doesn't mean you have to have sex". Great Emmy!!!  It's very true! :D




thank you  :oops:
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Post by: jessica73 on June 20, 2005, 10:06:18 am
Quote from: "PIBby"
I don't see how keeping your virginity for God is as great as people say it is. I mean . . . "Yeah, I'll be a prudish bitch (a nun), but since I've not had sex (probably because I'm too ugly to), I'm going to heaven."

So much bullshit.


:roflmao:
I hereby declare Cece the greatest person EVAR.
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Post by: milla on February 01, 2006, 12:27:05 pm
hehe i just discovered this post whilst searching something else and i want to bump it... :wink:
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Post by: on February 01, 2006, 02:05:57 pm
Quote from: "milla"
hehe i just discovered this post whilst searching something else and i want to bump it... :wink:


Pervert :lol:
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Post by: Jophess on February 01, 2006, 04:06:44 pm
Ooh, interesting thread.

I knew a handful of my classmates who are open about them not being virgins. And I'm a freshman at a catholic school. Pretty sad. I have never had sex as of now, but the more I think about it, the more I don't like the idea of waiting until marriage. The whole sex is only for marriage thing is BS anyway. If anyone's actually read the Bible, there's plenty of pre-marital sex in that book. In fact, the Old Testament is one of the most disturbing books ever. Thank you, Scriptures class.
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Post by: Manny on February 01, 2006, 04:50:35 pm
I am Not  8)
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Post by: kev222 on February 02, 2006, 03:37:45 am
Quote from: "Jophess"
The whole sex is only for marriage thing is BS anyway. If anyone's actually read the Bible, there's plenty of pre-marital sex in that book.

Obviousy (I would have thought) depiction and advocation are two very different things.
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Post by: BWilli on February 02, 2006, 07:31:05 am
Are you a virgin or not?

Maybe      7%  [ 5 ]



either you are or you arent...
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Post by: milla on February 02, 2006, 09:04:26 am
Quote from: "abbottANDcostello"
Quote from: "milla"
hehe i just discovered this post whilst searching something else and i want to bump it... :wink:


Pervert :lol:



 :razz:
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Post by: nat on February 02, 2006, 05:02:48 pm
i am :oops:
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Post by: LimeTwister on February 02, 2006, 06:41:49 pm
Quote from: "BWilli"
Are you a virgin or not?

Maybe      7%  [ 5 ]



either you are or you arent...


maybe they were drunk?
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Post by: NESSAussie on February 03, 2006, 08:01:05 am
Quote from: "LimeTwister"
maybe they were drunk?

If the amount of alcohol consumed, over the last 7 St. Valentine's Day dinners
at the restaurants I've worked in is any indication, it certainly seems to be so.
It seems everyone lets their guard down that bit extrta under the influence of

(http://www.bms.ed.ac.uk/services/staff/ianimmo/courses/phys4_01/sptex/resprop/Banerjee/backgr5.jpg)


Peace

Aaron
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Post by: BWilli on February 03, 2006, 08:04:43 pm
Quote from: "LimeTwister"
Quote from: "BWilli"
Are you a virgin or not?

Maybe      7%  [ 5 ]



either you are or you arent...


maybe they were drunk?


thats not such a great argument  :razz:
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Post by: Gina on February 06, 2006, 11:38:01 am
Oh Joey, that is quite the horrible argument...

but could have some truth to it, sadly.

I apparently voted in this poll but I have not a clue when I did so....haha
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Post by: Jophess on February 06, 2006, 11:50:28 am
Quote from: "kev222"
Quote from: "Jophess"
The whole sex is only for marriage thing is BS anyway. If anyone's actually read the Bible, there's plenty of pre-marital sex in that book.

Obviousy (I would have thought) depiction and advocation are two very different things.

I'm not saying I would have pre-marital sex because it's in the Bible, I meant to say that people saying that they're waiting for religious reasons is BS. The church says that sex should only be for procreation, which is crazy (in my opinion, at least). I plan on waiting til love, whether that be in marriage or not.
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Post by: Will on February 06, 2006, 01:41:18 pm
Quote from: "Jophess"
The church says that sex should only be for procreation, which is crazy (in my opinion, at least).


The Roman Catholic Church teaches that based on a faulty understanding of Genesis 38:1-10. The Church Universal, however, teaches no such thing. In fact, I'd wager that the majority of the Church Universal, outside of the Roman Catholics, understands that the reason why Onan was struck down by God was because what he did was pretty much defrauding his brother and his line, under the law of the time.

Furthermore, if you read between the lines when Paul talks about why some people should be married in I Corinthians 7:1-5, marriage serves, among other things, as a permissible outlet for sexual perversion so God's people don't fall into sin. That pretty much tells me that monogamous kink is not only allowed, but perhaps even encouraged within the bonds of marriage.

Quote from: "Jophess"
I'm not saying I would have pre-marital sex because it's in the Bible, I meant to say that people saying that they're waiting for religious reasons is BS.


Why are religious reasons BS? I can't even count how many times Paul implores us to "flee from sexual immorality." His definition of immorality most certainly includes fornication (sex outside of marriage) based on the social mores of the the time and the laws put forth in the Pentateuch.
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Post by: Jophess on February 06, 2006, 08:12:42 pm
Quote from: "Will"
Quote from: "Jophess"
The church says that sex should only be for procreation, which is crazy (in my opinion, at least).


The Roman Catholic Church teaches that based on a faulty understanding of Genesis 38:1-10. The Church Universal, however...
I'm only familia with the Roman Catholic stances, really... seeing as that is what I am.
Reguarding your other point, I don't think God cares whether or not we have pre-marital sex or not. If it's illegally or with prostitutes, that probably doesn't look good on the resume, but I think he's going to focus more on the big picture, you know, accepting him into your heart throughout your whole life. Or at least that's how I picture my God to be like.
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Post by: zurielshimon on February 07, 2006, 11:10:02 am
Yes, I believe Onan died because of what he did to his late brother, and denying him the continuance of his line, which was his brotherly duty.  I didn't see it anywhere in the Five Books where God commanded people not to masturbate.  And whether you have premarital or extramarital sex or not, if you are convicted of sin, it's your duty to confess it to God (and you can use the direct line) and ask forgiveness.  Though it's outright abuse of God's grace to do whatever you want to do just to ask for forgiveness in the end, how much better it is to ask for that forgiveness than not to and burn for it!
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Post by: Jessica on March 09, 2006, 11:33:05 am
Quote from: "zurielshimon"
Yes, I believe Onan died because of what he did to his late brother, and denying him the continuance of his line, which was his brotherly duty.  I didn't see it anywhere in the Five Books where God commanded people not to masturbate.  And whether you have premarital or extramarital sex or not, if you are convicted of sin, it's your duty to confess it to God (and you can use the direct line) and ask forgiveness.  Though it's outright abuse of God's grace to do whatever you want to do just to ask for forgiveness in the end, how much better it is to ask for that forgiveness than not to and burn for it!


question- i've never heard of the story of onan.. what was it?

also- what i thought was funny is that a book we had in "religion" class my sophomore year of highschool said that catholics believe masturbation is a sin because it is selfish and god said to not be selfish.
ha.
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Post by: Will on March 09, 2006, 02:18:13 pm
Quote from: "STARGiRL"
question- i've never heard of the story of onan.. what was it?


Ask and ye shall receive. (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis%2038:1-10;&version=31;)

A more understandable paraphrase. (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis%2038:1-10;&version=65;)
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Post by: NESSAussie on March 11, 2006, 08:30:10 am
Explains the wasei-eigo form that Japanese adopted from this interpretation :P
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Post by: MeganJane on May 30, 2006, 02:25:42 am
Quote
Will wrote:
Jophess wrote:
The church says that sex should only be for procreation, which is crazy (in my opinion, at least).


The Roman Catholic Church teaches that based on a faulty understanding of Genesis 38:1-10. The Church Universal, however...
I'm only familia with the Roman Catholic stances, really... seeing as that is what I am.
Reguarding your other point, I don't think God cares whether or not we have pre-marital sex or not. If it's illegally or with prostitutes, that probably doesn't look good on the resume, but I think he's going to focus more on the big picture, you know, accepting him into your heart throughout your whole life. Or at least that's how I picture my God to be like.


I really do get where you're coming from, Jophess. Sex is a big deal, but becuase of its importance, many have come to see it as some kind of evil. It is one thing to make love to the one you love, and another to go about having sex with many people and breaking hearts, basically treating others badly or using them through sex. It is not healthy. However if anyone here chooses that lifestyle, I'm not here to argue with your choice, I am simply stating that I disagree with it. I also believe that to have a good relationship with God, one needs to see the picture of a loving, accepting and forgiving God, not a condemning one- becuase then, one's choices will be made from fear (a fear of Hell/damnation), rather than love and with sincerity.
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Post by: Jessica on June 04, 2006, 12:39:33 pm
Quote from: "zurielshimon"
Yes, I believe Onan died because of what he did to his late brother, and denying him the continuance of his line, which was his brotherly duty.  I didn't see it anywhere in the Five Books where God commanded people not to masturbate.  And whether you have premarital or extramarital sex or not, if you are convicted of sin, it's your duty to confess it to God (and you can use the direct line) and ask forgiveness.  Though it's outright abuse of God's grace to do whatever you want to do just to ask for forgiveness in the end, how much better it is to ask for that forgiveness than not to and burn for it!


since when is having sex with your brother's wife a brotherly duty?
women arent fucking baby making machines.

if onan died then he should have gotten married and had a child himself with his own wife if he wanted to continue his line so badly.
Title: Have you done it? hehe
Post by: MeganJane on June 06, 2006, 01:17:24 am
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since when is having sex with your brother's wife a brotherly duty?


It's called adultery. Which the Biblical Commandments instructs us NOT to do.

Lol.
Title: Have you done it? hehe
Post by: Will on June 06, 2006, 07:27:59 am
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since when is having sex with your brother's wife a brotherly duty?
women arent fucking baby making machines.


It was a brotherly duty in the ancient near East if your brother didn't have any kids before he croaked. Yanno... help him carry on his name and line.

Quote from: "MeganJane"
It's called adultery. Which the Biblical Commandments instructs us NOT to do.


It wasn't considered adultery in the time of the Biblical Patriarchs. Today's social and moral standards aren't the same as the ones people held 4,000 years ago.
Title: Have you done it? hehe
Post by: MeganJane on June 08, 2006, 09:43:20 pm
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MeganJane wrote:
It's called adultery. Which the Biblical Commandments instructs us NOT to do.


It wasn't considered adultery in the time of the Biblical Patriarchs. Today's social and moral standards aren't the same as the ones people held 4,000 years ago.


I was making a joke, as it is funny that it was somehow considered a "duty" to commit what we now know as adultery. I don't care when it happened, it doesn't make it all fine and dandy. If you want to argue about the Bible, go to Bible college. I did. But I don't like arguing, particularly when people refuse to think for themselves. (I'm referring to people at the Bible college I went to, not you, so don't take offence!)
Title: Have you done it? hehe
Post by: Jessica on June 16, 2006, 07:50:36 pm
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since when is having sex with your brother's wife a brotherly duty?
women arent fucking baby making machines.


It was a brotherly duty in the ancient near East if your brother didn't have any kids before he croaked. Yanno... help him carry on his name and line.

Quote from: "MeganJane"
It's called adultery. Which the Biblical Commandments instructs us NOT to do.


It wasn't considered adultery in the time of the Biblical Patriarchs. Today's social and moral standards aren't the same as the ones people held 4,000 years ago.


it's a good thing that has changed.
i would have put up a fight in the ancient near east.

i dont see why the "line" or name is carried on through the male anyway. all they have to do is orgasm. women do all the baby creating.

i'm going to create my own last name and my own line.
Title: Have you done it? hehe
Post by: zurielshimon on June 17, 2006, 12:15:17 am
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Quote from: "STARGiRL"
since when is having sex with your brother's wife a brotherly duty?
women arent fucking baby making machines.


It was a brotherly duty in the ancient near East if your brother didn't have any kids before he croaked. Yanno... help him carry on his name and line.

Quote from: "MeganJane"
It's called adultery. Which the Biblical Commandments instructs us NOT to do.


It wasn't considered adultery in the time of the Biblical Patriarchs. Today's social and moral standards aren't the same as the ones people held 4,000 years ago.


it's a good thing that has changed.
i would have put up a fight in the ancient near east.

i dont see why the "line" or name is carried on through the male anyway. all they have to do is orgasm. women do all the baby creating.

i'm going to create my own last name and my own line.


If it means anything, I actually took my wife's last name after we were married. :D
Title: Have you done it? hehe
Post by: MeganJane on June 17, 2006, 04:24:08 am
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If it means anything, I actually took my wife's last name after we were married. Very Happy


That's cool! What made you decide to do that? Just curious
Title: Have you done it? hehe
Post by: zurielshimon on June 17, 2006, 11:37:32 pm
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If it means anything, I actually took my wife's last name after we were married. Very Happy


That's cool! What made you decide to do that? Just curious


Wait, let me check...  Nope, no penalty for curiosity in my book! :D   I don't know really.  I just liked her name better, and plus, I'd been wanting a change of name anyway (to include a few other family names, for like eight years prior to meeting her).  So I went before the chancery court and now I have a name that'll barely fit on one line (or won't, depending on the width of the column). 8)