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Vanessa Carlton => General Vanessa Carlton Discussion => Topic started by: DutchNessaHolic on October 11, 2004, 12:53:43 pm
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http://www.vanessacarlton.com/index2.htm
nice , but kinda the same
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um...? It's not working for me...
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moi aussi
(same here)
Amanda
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not working neither.
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um...? It's not working for me...
ditto.
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It works fine. No title though . . .weird. Anyway. . . pictures are nice.
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it works 4 me it is soo sweet!
the new BIO!!!
Notes on Vanessa Carlton and the making of Harmonium
“Harmonium” is Vanessa Carlton’s follow up to her multi-platinum debut Be Not Nobody, which had the number one single “ A Thousand Miles” and top ten single “Ordinary Day”. She wrote it while on tour and on sojourn in San Francisco. Stephan Jenkins of Third Eye Blind produced Harmonium and it was recorded in San Francisco and Los Angeles over the last year. “Harmonium” takes its name from a vintage instrument which combines piano and flute. To Vanessa it means bringing difficult, chaotic things, things that have trouble fitting in one’s life together to achieve harmony. Each of Harmonium’s ingenious and individual tracks are unified by the talents of this unique musician and the purity of her voice. The result is a wholly authentic new album from Vanessa Carlton, and it marks her emergence as a musical stylist.
Studio Hallways
While on reprieve from tracking basics at the Record Plant in Los Angeles, Stephan Jenkins returned to the studio with Lindsey Buckingham who had praise for Vanessa’s first album and curiosity for her new work. Soon the studio was filled with Stevie Nicks and Pharrell Williams; Kanye West dropped in as well. Lindsey ended up playing acoustic guitar on Vanessa’s first single, ’White Houses,’ and Pharrell sang back ups on ‘Who’s To Say’. These moments of spontaneity and community encapsulate the spirit in which Harmonium was recorded.
Making a Band
Two new factors influenced the arrangements and basic tracking of Harmonium: first, a year and a half of touring with her band developed Vanessa’s empathy and nuance with other players; and second, Stephan and Vanessa arranged the songs together on drums and piano. “It was a band vibe in the way we put songs together,…it makes the album sound somehow younger and more organic,” Vanessa has said. The spark being set so early in the song’s arrangement allowed them to experiment without snuffing out the song’s intent.
Sonatas and Improv
The signature of Harmonium comes from Vanessa’s left hand. Classically trained from the age of two by her mother, Vanessa developed in a relaxed atmosphere. “I would learn a piece like Chopin, and then forget part of it and then make up a new ending myself.” Her mother gave her the tools to explore. Piano was a world Vanessa could step into and control while growing up. “I would envelope myself in music, and that’s how I navigated New York when I moved on my own so young. Music was my companion and my escape.” It was also her expression. She improvises over classical voicings and time signatures, so she’s not anchored by the usual suspects in pop progressions. Her style always finds the new harmonic and it gets nurtured on this album.
Pressure
The common wisdom on follow-ups to successful debuts is: more of the same. Harmonium did just the opposite. Time moves and so has Vanessa. The songs for her first album Be No Nobody were written when she was seventeen and it was an inspired effort, not a formula. She made Harmonium at twenty-three after so much change. “So many second albums are made in fear. I couldn’t make a new album based on remaking the last one, and I was not afraid to make an album based on what feels fresh and reflective to me. I think I realize only now that I really did take a risk.”
Inner Landscape and Big Vistas
The music on this album goes from the painful intimacy of an uncertain breath, to grandly cinematic gestures of tympanis and a forty voice choir. Harmonium is about musical landscapes. Some are the inner landscapes of confessions and dreams; some are like musical expressions of mountains. Each song has it’s own sensibility and none of them feels over thought or second guessed. A&M president Ron Fair: “If Be Not Nobody was wearing a cocktail dress, Harmonium is wearing jeans and a vintage shirt.”
Co-writing and Collaborating
It was Interscope chairman, Jimmy Iovine that suggested Vanessa and Stephan write together. During a meeting where Vanessa played Jimmy the first five songs from Harmonium, Jimmy recognized similarities to his relationship as a producer with Stevie Nicks. “Stephan was my first successful co-write and he was careful not to foist anything on me. Instead he showed me that what is precious to me can be shared, not just protected, and I am a better songwriter because of it.”
Lyrics
Vanessa’s lyrics are more streams of consciousness. “I use my voice and words as another instrument and the words then tell me what the song is about.” From the blissed out melancholy of songs like ‘Afterglow’ and ‘San Francisco’, to the bizarre noir of ‘She Floats’ and the secret track, ‘The Wreckage’, Vanessa conveys sensations that cannot be separated from their melody to be comprehended.
A Dancer Again
This year with the help of her choreographer Vanessa reclaimed her lyrical dance style. It is showcased in the video for ‘White Houses’, a study in different sides of Vanessa’s personality making peace with the other, finding Harmonium. One can see what dancing again has done for Vanessa. The return of dance in Vanessa’s life shows in her new ease and confidence. It changes touring as well. “I used to feel rooted to the piano, now I’m going to dance on top of it.”
Vanessa Carlton will be on tour in the U.S., Europe, and Asia in support of Harmonium starting in October, 2004
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EUROPE AND AISIA TOUR WHOOOO
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Photo gallery!
It's almost exact to the old one. I guess I like it. I would have liked a new color, but whatever
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Vanessa dancing on the piano 8O !
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:? urg. I can't see it.
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NEITHER CAN I AND IT'S PISSING ME OFF.
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Vanessa dancing on the piano 8O !
What? :?
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it works 4 me it is soo sweet!
the new BIO!!!
Thanks for posting the new bio.
I, too cannot get the "new version" to load using that link. Perhaps it's still under construction.
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howcome it doesnt works for you???
it works fine on me
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Got the big ol' 404. :evil:
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Vanessa dancing on the piano 8O !
What? :?
A Dancer Again
This year with the help of her choreographer Vanessa reclaimed her lyrical dance style. It is showcased in the video for ‘White Houses’, a study in different sides of Vanessa’s personality making peace with the other, finding Harmonium. One can see what dancing again has done for Vanessa. The return of dance in Vanessa’s life shows in her new ease and confidence. It changes touring as well. “I used to feel rooted to the piano, now I’m going to dance on top of it.”
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(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v62/snurrig/bio.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v62/snurrig/tour.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v62/snurrig/photos.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v62/snurrig/news.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v62/snurrig/music.jpg)
Going between pages the new picture is sort of "drawn"
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Vanessa dancing on the piano 8O !
What? :?
A Dancer Again
This year with the help of her choreographer Vanessa reclaimed her lyrical dance style. It is showcased in the video for ‘White Houses’, a study in different sides of Vanessa’s personality making peace with the other, finding Harmonium. One can see what dancing again has done for Vanessa. The return of dance in Vanessa’s life shows in her new ease and confidence. It changes touring as well. “I used to feel rooted to the piano, now I’m going to dance on top of it.”
Ooohhh. Wow. Thank you.
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Thanks Christine for posting screenshots...hopefully I'll be able to actually see the new page load later this week.
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I can´t see, so thatnx for the screen caps :D
But, mm, the beige.....I dont know if I can handle 3or4 more years of beige :razz:
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I can´t see, so thatnx for the screen caps :D
But, mm, the beige.....I dont know if I can handle 3or4 more years of beige :razz:
yeah, i know... Black wouild've been sweet imo.
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I can´t see, so thatnx for the screen caps :D
But, mm, the beige.....I dont know if I can handle 3or4 more years of beige :razz:
yeah, i know... Black wouild've been sweet imo.
yes, I´m kinda disapponted the website will change sooo little :(
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i dont know
Its cool but not working for me! Change the color! AWWWWW!! beige beige its driving me nuts!
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i couldnt get on at first too, but heres a tip:
im finding that
www.vanessacarlton.com doesnt work
but
vanessacarlton.com does
so, try taking out the www. and see if that works :-\
edit:
GRRRRRR!
i can only see the navigation now
nothing works!
i totally hate aol.
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The new website still sucks. Meh. Fire the webdev. Please!
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YES!!!!!!!!
WOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!
the forum FINALLY got a banner!!!!
(http://vanessacarlton.com/images/forum.gif)
now all you have to do is click the banner to go back to the forum index, instead of clicking the words.
wooT 1% improvement..
lol
edit:
also i notice darker colors on http://vanessacarlton.com/bboard/
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omg! looks awesome!!!
http://www.vanessacarlton.com/index2.htm
amanda
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Notes on Vanessa Carlton and the making of Harmonium
“Harmonium” is Vanessa Carlton’s follow up to her multi-platinum debut Be Not Nobody, which had the number one single “ A Thousand Miles” and top ten single “Ordinary Day”. She wrote it while on tour and on sojourn in San Francisco. Stephan Jenkins of Third Eye Blind produced Harmonium and it was recorded in San Francisco and Los Angeles over the last year. “Harmonium” takes its name from a vintage instrument which combines piano and flute. To Vanessa it means bringing difficult, chaotic things, things that have trouble fitting in one’s life together to achieve harmony. Each of Harmonium’s ingenious and individual tracks are unified by the talents of this unique musician and the purity of her voice. The result is a wholly authentic new album from Vanessa Carlton, and it marks her emergence as a musical stylist.
Studio Hallways
While on reprieve from tracking basics at the Record Plant in Los Angeles, Stephan Jenkins returned to the studio with Lindsey Buckingham who had praise for Vanessa’s first album and curiosity for her new work. Soon the studio was filled with Stevie Nicks and Pharrell Williams; Kanye West dropped in as well. Lindsey ended up playing acoustic guitar on Vanessa’s first single, ’White Houses,’ and Pharrell sang back ups on ‘Who’s To Say’. These moments of spontaneity and community encapsulate the spirit in which Harmonium was recorded.
Making a Band
Two new factors influenced the arrangements and basic tracking of Harmonium: first, a year and a half of touring with her band developed Vanessa’s empathy and nuance with other players; and second, Stephan and Vanessa arranged the songs together on drums and piano. “It was a band vibe in the way we put songs together,…it makes the album sound somehow younger and more organic,” Vanessa has said. The spark being set so early in the song’s arrangement allowed them to experiment without snuffing out the song’s intent.
Sonatas and Improv
The signature of Harmonium comes from Vanessa’s left hand. Classically trained from the age of two by her mother, Vanessa developed in a relaxed atmosphere. “I would learn a piece like Chopin, and then forget part of it and then make up a new ending myself.” Her mother gave her the tools to explore. Piano was a world Vanessa could step into and control while growing up. “I would envelope myself in music, and that’s how I navigated New York when I moved on my own so young. Music was my companion and my escape.” It was also her expression. She improvises over classical voicings and time signatures, so she’s not anchored by the usual suspects in pop progressions. Her style always finds the new harmonic and it gets nurtured on this album.
Pressure
The common wisdom on follow-ups to successful debuts is: more of the same. Harmonium did just the opposite. Time moves and so has Vanessa. The songs for her first album Be No Nobody were written when she was seventeen and it was an inspired effort, not a formula. She made Harmonium at twenty-three after so much change. “So many second albums are made in fear. I couldn’t make a new album based on remaking the last one, and I was not afraid to make an album based on what feels fresh and reflective to me. I think I realize only now that I really did take a risk.”
Inner Landscape and Big Vistas
The music on this album goes from the painful intimacy of an uncertain breath, to grandly cinematic gestures of tympanis and a forty voice choir. Harmonium is about musical landscapes. Some are the inner landscapes of confessions and dreams; some are like musical expressions of mountains. Each song has it’s own sensibility and none of them feels over thought or second guessed. A&M president Ron Fair: “If Be Not Nobody was wearing a cocktail dress, Harmonium is wearing jeans and a vintage shirt.”
Co-writing and Collaborating
It was Interscope chairman, Jimmy Iovine that suggested Vanessa and Stephan write together. During a meeting where Vanessa played Jimmy the first five songs from Harmonium, Jimmy recognized similarities to his relationship as a producer with Stevie Nicks. “Stephan was my first successful co-write and he was careful not to foist anything on me. Instead he showed me that what is precious to me can be shared, not just protected, and I am a better songwriter because of it.”
Lyrics
Vanessa’s lyrics are more streams of consciousness. “I use my voice and words as another instrument and the words then tell me what the song is about.” From the blissed out melancholy of songs like ‘Afterglow’ and ‘San Francisco’, to the bizarre noir of ‘She Floats’ and the secret track, ‘The Wreckage’, Vanessa conveys sensations that cannot be separated from their melody to be comprehended.
A Dancer Again
This year with the help of her choreographer Vanessa reclaimed her lyrical dance style. It is showcased in the video for ‘White Houses’, a study in different sides of Vanessa’s personality making peace with the other, finding Harmonium. One can see what dancing again has done for Vanessa. The return of dance in Vanessa’s life shows in her new ease and confidence. It changes touring as well. “I used to feel rooted to the piano, now I’m going to dance on top of it.”
Vanessa Carlton will be on tour in the U.S., Europe, and Asia in support of Harmonium starting in October, 2004
Amanda
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already a thread
http://forum.nessaholics.com/viewtopic.php?t=6981
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lol. didn't even see it
Amanda
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yaya, finally I can see everything :)
I liked the intro
http://www.vanessacarlton.com/intro.htm
and the way the pics on the left (navigation) appears from the drawing :D ...but still ..beige?? :cry:
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I still can't see... :cry:
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I still can't see... :cry:
neither can I... Why does it work for some people yet not others?
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I still can't see... :cry:
neither can I... Why does it work for some people yet not others?
I restarted my pc, then i saw it :?
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anyone pre ordering the CD?
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anyone pre ordering the CD?
not me, too expensive to import lol and why would I want the VIP passes and meet and greet for a concert in US? :? :razz:
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So you can come visit! :roll:
Unless baseball season is over. No reason to come then.
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I still can't see... :cry:
neither can I... Why does it work for some people yet not others?
I restarted my pc, then i saw it :?
Restarted. Still doesn't work.
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I still can't see... :cry:
neither can I... Why does it work for some people yet not others?
I restarted my pc, then i saw it :?
Restarted. Still doesn't work.
someone half-assed the cut over... i don't know whether it's a server thing or a dns thing however had the necessary steps been taken everyone would be able to see it at the same time. =)
if it isn't working later tonight when i'm back from dinner, i'll investigate more.
-katia
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So you can come visit! :roll:
Unless baseball season is over. No reason to come then.
no money for that lol
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someone half-assed the cut over... i don't know whether it's a server thing or a dns thing however had the necessary steps been taken everyone would be able to see it at the same time. =)
yes, halfassed DNS thing, I know it well. Probably take 2 days for my DNS to catch up again.
I still cant see it. sigh*sigh
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someone half-assed the cut over... i don't know whether it's a server thing or a dns thing however had the necessary steps been taken everyone would be able to see it at the same time. =)
yes, halfassed DNS thing, I know it well. Probably take 2 days for my DNS to catch up again.
I still cant see it. sigh*sigh
sigh sigh indeed! :evil:
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EUROPE AND AISIA TOUR WHOOOO
might be sooner than i thought..
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*coming from a different network*
http://www.vanessacarlton.com/ ->
Service Unavailable
WONDERFUL
hit reload...
New site!
it's pretty cool but still has quite a bit to be desired. It's flash so it won't do very well with the google bot and hopefully they plan on adding some more stuffs eventually.
The new pics are pretty cool and i agree with those that made the comments about the drawing of the picture... that is pretty nifty :)
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I FINALLY can see it 8O 8O 8O
Purdy, lol. :razz:
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It works! Sometimes... weird
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Yay. European tour :)
-Kev
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Cant see it...... :evil:
Oh there! Finally!
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finnalyy. it's great
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Yay. European tour :)
-Kev
Where where?!??! I don't see it! :(
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Yay. European tour :)
-Kev
Where where?!??! I don't see it! :(
A Dancer Again
This year with the help of her choreographer Vanessa reclaimed her lyrical dance style. It is showcased in the video for ‘White Houses’, a study in different sides of Vanessa’s personality making peace with the other, finding Harmonium. One can see what dancing again has done for Vanessa. The return of dance in Vanessa’s life shows in her new ease and confidence. It changes touring as well. “I used to feel rooted to the piano, now I’m going to dance on top of it.”
Vanessa Carlton will be on tour in the U.S., Europe, and Asia in support of Harmonium starting in October, 2004
yay i love the site :D
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Sweet!
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great , now there a 2 forums
1 empty one with 3 moderators
and the old one but modefied
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I can see it finally!!! w00t!! Very pretty :D Still should've been black, though.
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i love it, :wink:
hopefully the europe tour will be soon! i cant wait :lol: 8O
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Yea! I can finally see the new site. I like the way "harmonium" is painted on the intro page. Woohoo!
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Am I the only one that thinks it bites? Especially that garish picture of Vanessa where you can barely see her face? Don't get me wrong, I doubted that anything significant was going to happen, so I am impressed that there were ANY results.
Dan/NS
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yeah theres a change but not much of one
but at least its a change
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WEEE I can finally see it!
It's kinda cool. Must live with this for the next 2 years now.
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YAY!!! i just got back from spending the weekend with my grandparents and going bonkers because they have no idea what the heck the internet is...they use their computer ONLY to play Solitaire... so this was a nice little surprise. it looks so good!!!
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It's kinda cool. Must live with this for the next 2 years now.
Werd. lmao!
Vanessa Carlton will be on tour in the U.S., Europe, and Asia in support of Harmonium starting in October, 2004
Oh ok, I thought they actually posted the tour dates for Europe, that's why I didn't see that...
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what is the new vc.com missing?
what do you like?
what don't you like?
-katia
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what is the new vc.com missing?
what do you like?
what don't you like?
-katia
well i think we all agree that the color has officially gotten old.
i like the little pictures and how they're "drawn" when you click on something to the side.
i don't like how they didn't change the forum to be a little more "up to date" kind of like this one. or at least have a moderator.
otherwise it's fine
Amanda
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what is the new vc.com missing?
what do you like?
what don't you like?
-katia
it needs more mods for the message board.
...and i think the intro's kinda pointless.
ummmm, everything else looks cool though, except the way the message board is displayed if you click "Chat". i dont like that.
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great , now there a 2 forums
1 empty one with 3 moderators
and the old one but modefied
wtf? where do you see a 2nd forum?
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It needs a complete redesign. Different colors. Different layout. I have a 21" CRT in front of me. The actual text is annoying to read because it takes up a very small part of the screen. The flash intro is pointless. Just make the site be the front page! It's not that hard to do!
Also, the forum sucks. Software wise.
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It needs a complete redesign. Different colors. Different layout. I have a 21" CRT in front of me. The actual text is annoying to read because it takes up a very small part of the screen. The flash intro is pointless. Just make the site be the front page! It's not that hard to do!
Also, the forum sucks. Software wise.
they did change the colors, though only very slightly.
i agree, it should be more dramatic of a change.
although i do like the current colors, it could be better.
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Clickey for my pet-peeve (http://vanessafanatic.com/will/vc-com.jpg). Warning: Big pic!
I have a big monitor. I should be able to use more of it. Look how much screen is wasted to present that tiny bit of content? Eeek!
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Clickey for my pet-peeve (http://vanessafanatic.com/will/vc-com.jpg). Warning: Big pic!
I have a big monitor. I should be able to use more of it. Look how much screen is wasted to present that tiny bit of content? Eeek!
you are in the 0.05 percentile. the rest of the users average 800x600 or 1024x768 on which it looks good.
You are a web designer's nightmare.
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Too much real estate is still used up. If it would scroll around and all the stuff was at the top of the page, it might be a tad more bareable.
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ahh i like it very much but i want more pictures. and more videos!! ok, im just being greedy..but i still can't hear pharell on who's to say.
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ahh i like it very much but i want more pictures. and more videos!! ok, im just being greedy..but i still can't hear pharell on who's to say.
Me too, maybe it's another version of Who's to Say?
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ahh i like it very much but i want more pictures. and more videos!! ok, im just being greedy..but i still can't hear pharell on who's to say.
Me too, maybe it's another version of Who's to Say?
When VC sings "And you say we're too young but maybe you're too old to remember"- you can hear him singing something like "aaaahhhh" lol and when VC sings "You and I...." you can hear Pharell sing that little bit with her.
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Looks like they are trying to divide the board into different sections now, too.
http://www.vanessacarlton.com/bboard/
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Looks like they are trying to divide the board into different sections now, too.
well it's about time
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Looks like they are trying to divide the board into different sections now, too.
well it's about time
None of the links work yet, but at least they are trying lol.
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Get decent forum software. You can polish a piece of crap, but it's still crap.
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The divisions live!
Love it.
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Now its A LOT easier!
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Looks like they are trying to divide the board into different sections now, too.
well it's about time
None of the links work yet, but at least they are trying lol.
huh?they work for me
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interesting....not a bad idea...i wonder where they got that from :razz:
looks like they are still moving the posts into diff. sections
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oo dividers
and the icons have changed too :lol:
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8O
I never thought I'd see the day...
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lmao
they were good icons them aswell :cry:
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it just keeps getting groovier over there!!! :D
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and yet people still post things in the wrong sections :roll:
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and yet people still post things in the wrong sections :roll:
You can the n00bness out of the layout, but you can't take the n00bs away from the board LOL.
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and yet people still post things in the wrong sections :roll:
You can the n00bness out of the layout, but you can't take the n00bs away from the board LOL.
So true.
All those new forums, its almost like rediscovering the joys of postwhoring!
lmao!
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and yet people still post things in the wrong sections :roll:
You can the n00bness out of the layout, but you can't take the n00bs away from the board LOL.
So true.
All those new forums, its almost like rediscovering the joys of postwhoring!
lmao!
I'm still so proud we converted you into being a post whore. :D lol
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and yet people still post things in the wrong sections :roll:
You can the n00bness out of the layout, but you can't take the n00bs away from the board LOL.
the board needs more moderatorS!
rawr!