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Vanessa Carlton => Vanessa Songs / Lyrics / Sheet Music => Topic started by: rainforestspirit on June 03, 2007, 05:08:18 pm
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I was just wondering which tracks you all thought would be going on V's next album? I think it is pretty confirmed that Heroes and Thieves, Hands on Me, and Nolita Fairytale will all be on the album. But what others do you think will be on it? Do you think ALL of her new stuff will be on it? Do you think they will cut any of them? How about any old songs?
My possible guesses (no particular order):
Heroes and Thieves
The One (I really hope so, this is my fav!)
Nolita Fairytale
Hands on Me
My Best
This Time
Best Behavior
All is Well
House
Spring Street
Wave Goodbye
???
Other thoughts: Do any of you think she will finally put some old favs on like Morning Sting and Swindler? She has always said in concerts that she likes these songs, they just never made it to an album because they did not fit with the rest of the songs. I really hope that Swindler will be on it - even though it is "old" it is one of my favs and V still sang it during the Harmonium tour so we know she still likes it.
I highly doubt fan favs like Superhero, All I Ask, Birdie, etc will be on it since she hasn't played those in concert for a very long time.
Any other songs that someone knows about that I haven't heard about yet? That is only 11 songs which IMHO is not long enough - I'm hoping for 13-15 songs. Please, V??? I heard something about Quail Dude Squaw but I don't know anything about it at all.
Sorry if this was posted somewhere else but I couldn't find it......
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Hmmmm i think she will stick to 11 songs like all the other albums...
i dont think All is Well will be on the album though...so that leaves one spot open in my opinion...unless she took off spring street or wave goodbye, cuz we've never heard them, so who knos if they're good..
I think it'll be something like:
1. Nolita Fairytale
2. Heroes and Thieves
3. This Time
4. The One
5. Hands on Me
6. Best Behavior
7. My Best
8. Sprint Street
9. Wave Goodbye
10. ????
11. ????
I dunno....i dont think any old songs will be on it....but i dunno, i didnt put much thought into that.lol
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I really dislike how she limits the length of tracks on her records. Like, with Harmonium she stated that she really wanted a record with only 10 songs, and luckily we got The Wreckage as a bonus track. And I understand it's her art and she can do as she pleases with it, but... wtf! I'd definately like to see more than 10 or 11 tracks on this album, especially because we've already heard half of the songs on it.
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I really dislike how she limits the length of tracks on her records. Like, with Harmonium she stated that she really wanted a record with only 10 songs, and luckily we got The Wreckage as a bonus track. And I understand it's her art and she can do as she pleases with it, but... wtf! I'd definately like to see more than 10 or 11 tracks on this album, especially because we've already heard half of the songs on it.
I definately feel the same way! I would love more songs than the "usual" 11. I agree that part of this is because we have heard about half of them already but I also think it is ironic cause we all beg to hear these songs before they are released. haha! I guess it is our own fault for that one
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It's not entirely her fault.
Not completley sure how it works, but if she wanted more than 10/11 songs on the disc, they'd have to pay out more money.
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I really dislike how she limits the length of tracks on her records. Like, with Harmonium she stated that she really wanted a record with only 10 songs, and luckily we got The Wreckage as a bonus track. And I understand it's her art and she can do as she pleases with it, but... wtf! I'd definately like to see more than 10 or 11 tracks on this album, especially because we've already heard half of the songs on it.
I definately feel the same way! I would love more songs than the "usual" 11. I agree that part of this is because we have heard about half of them already but I also think it is ironic cause we all beg to hear these songs before they are released. haha! I guess it is our own fault for that one
Well, it also doesn't help that Put Your Hands On Me, This Time and The One are really old songs (technically) at this point. I mean, she debuted them live when... sometime in 2005 wasn't it? 2 YEARS LATER. lol
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I hope that if "House" doesn't make the final cut, we'll get to hear it one way or another.
A few people on here commented on how nice a track it was.
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Well, it also doesn't help that Put Your Hands On Me, This Time and The One are really old songs (technically) at this point. I mean, she debuted them live when... sometime in 2005 wasn't it? 2 YEARS LATER. lol
Very true....but, she could have just not sung them in 2005...or any other time...and instead make us wait until the CD came out like most artists do. But I totally feel ya. I wish there was more new material. More than 11 songs on the album would fix that though! :-)
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It's not entirely her fault.
Not completley sure how it works, but if she wanted more than 10/11 songs on the disc, they'd have to pay out more money.
I think we as a fanbase deserve that extra cash spent on us. lol It's been a rough ride with Vanessa since Harmonium initially released, and we're still around. I just think it'd make the album that much more of a rewarding experience for everyone.
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Well hopefully we'll get more than 10 songs ;) And if the album's a success, it'll probably get a re-release with even more songs on!
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Well hopefully we'll get more than 10 songs ;) And if the album's a success, it'll probably get a re-release with even more songs on!
Well, I doubt a re-release of Heroes and Thieves is anything realistic, and usually re-releases are issued to help an album with sales, like Beyonce's last album, which wasn't doing all that great when it first came out.
But I'd really like to see some physical CD singles released with some new b-sides and remixes! I think that'd be really sweet.
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I'm just really hoping that Ameriteen isn't on it because I've recorded a version and am hoping to get permission to release it with/on my next CD.
Hopefully there'll be 12 + songs and not just 10 again, or has she said differently?
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I'm just really hoping that Ameriteen isn't on it because I've recorded a version and am hoping to get permission to release it with/on my next CD.
Hopefully there'll be 12 + songs and not just 10 again, or has she said differently?
Nah, she hasn't mentioned anything in terms of album length. It's all speculation at this point. We won't know until we get an official track list.
I'm curious as to whether or not we'll get another cover song this time around. Be Not Nobody had Paint It Black and the international version of Harmonium had Where The Streets Have No Name. Sooo, I wonder if a cover song will end up on the US release or as a bonus song on the international release like last time.
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I'm just really hoping that Ameriteen isn't on it because I've recorded a version and am hoping to get permission to release it with/on my next CD.
Hopefully there'll be 12 + songs and not just 10 again, or has she said differently?
Nah, she hasn't mentioned anything in terms of album length. It's all speculation at this point. We won't know until we get an official track list.
I'm curious as to whether or not we'll get another cover song this time around. Be Not Nobody had Paint It Black and the international version of Harmonium had Where The Streets Have No Name. Sooo, I wonder if a cover song will end up on the US release or as a bonus song on the international release like last time.
No more covers please.
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I really dislike how she limits the length of tracks on her records. Like, with Harmonium she stated that she really wanted a record with only 10 songs, and luckily we got The Wreckage as a bonus track. And I understand it's her art and she can do as she pleases with it, but... wtf! I'd definately like to see more than 10 or 11 tracks on this album, especially because we've already heard half of the songs on it.
I know what you mean since we have already heard so many of those songs its not oging to be the same when you pop in the cd for the first time and listn to it ... you technalcally already have heard some of it. I just hope she adds more than 10 or 11 songs why not 12 or 13? thats not bad oh well either way its going to be rad to haver th new cd when it comes out.
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I'm just really hoping that Ameriteen isn't on it because I've recorded a version and am hoping to get permission to release it with/on my next CD.
Hopefully there'll be 12 + songs and not just 10 again, or has she said differently?
Nah, she hasn't mentioned anything in terms of album length. It's all speculation at this point. We won't know until we get an official track list.
I'm curious as to whether or not we'll get another cover song this time around. Be Not Nobody had Paint It Black and the international version of Harmonium had Where The Streets Have No Name. Sooo, I wonder if a cover song will end up on the US release or as a bonus song on the international release like last time.
No more covers please.
Blasphemer!
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I really dislike how she limits the length of tracks on her records. Like, with Harmonium she stated that she really wanted a record with only 10 songs, and luckily we got The Wreckage as a bonus track. And I understand it's her art and she can do as she pleases with it, but... wtf! I'd definately like to see more than 10 or 11 tracks on this album, especially because we've already heard half of the songs on it.
I know what you mean since we have already heard so many of those songs its not oging to be the same when you pop in the cd for the first time and listn to it ... you technalcally already have heard some of it. I just hope she adds more than 10 or 11 songs why not 12 or 13? thats not bad oh well either way its going to be rad to haver th new cd when it comes out.
Haha, I'd feel bad if Vanessa actually snoops around here every once in a great while, 'cuz if she sees this she'd probably be all, "NOTHING EVER PLEASES THESE GUYS. GOD." Hahaha.
We're easy to please, just keep the songs comming. lol
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as much as I like vanessa's old stuff like swindler and superhero and all those tracks, i really don't think she should put them on the album. I really think she should move forward as an artist and simply look to the future musically. But they still are really fun to catch at live shows :wink:
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if spring street and wave goodbye are on the album, i'm going to be very upset.
and i don't want swindler on the album.. we have a studio version of it. now morning sting, that would be cool, because we don't have one. but i want new songs.. songs that we haven't heard before, on the album. i like the fact that the single is a song that we've never heard before. it's cool as shit.
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I read somewhere once (don't remember where) that artists are usually paid for albums with 11 tracks.
Any additional track being a "bonus" the artist gives to the fans.
I don't know how true this statement is though.
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Is there audio for songs like "Spring Street" and "Wave Goodbye"?
I've never heard them...
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I really dislike how she limits the length of tracks on her records. Like, with Harmonium she stated that she really wanted a record with only 10 songs, and luckily we got The Wreckage as a bonus track. And I understand it's her art and she can do as she pleases with it, but... wtf! I'd definately like to see more than 10 or 11 tracks on this album, especially because we've already heard half of the songs on it.
I definately feel the same way! I would love more songs than the "usual" 11. I agree that part of this is because we have heard about half of them already but I also think it is ironic cause we all beg to hear these songs before they are released. haha! I guess it is our own fault for that one
I think there will be more than the usual 11. Irv Gotti is putting a lot of money into this album. I'm sure he's made her do more than what she usually does for an album. Or at least... hopefully... considering Beyonce's latest album with a total of 10 songs.
Let's hope she doesn't get as many as Christina A. who gets like 21, which affects the quality of the music I think.
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Is there audio for songs like "Spring Street" and "Wave Goodbye"?
I've never heard them...
no.. there's only two people who have heard these songs.
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Well, with the Be Not Nobody special edition it has like....14 songs including remixes? A cd like that would be nice. :D :D
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Is there audio for songs like "Spring Street" and "Wave Goodbye"?
I've never heard them...
no.. there's only two people who have heard these songs.
You being one of em :) lol
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if spring street and wave goodbye are on the album, i'm going to be very upset.
and i don't want swindler on the album.. we have a studio version of it. now morning sting, that would be cool, because we don't have one. but i want new songs.. songs that we haven't heard before, on the album. i like the fact that the single is a song that we've never heard before. it's cool as shit.
I don't have a studio version of swindler....where did you get it? Can you post a link please? Thanks!
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Is there audio for songs like "Spring Street" and "Wave Goodbye"?
I've never heard them...
no.. there's only two people who have heard these songs.
two people as in like fans or like people like vanessa or someone else?
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Is there audio for songs like "Spring Street" and "Wave Goodbye"?
I've never heard them...
no.. there's only two people who have heard these songs.
two people as in like fans or like people like vanessa or someone else?
Two people from nessaholics. ordinaryday (Samantha) and amberbeads are the only people in here who have heard them I think....Otherwise I am sure V, SJ, Irv, Linda Perry, etc have heard them too. Especially since Linda produced them.
see: http://forum.nessaholics.com/viewtopic.php?t=9145&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=
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Wow, I never saw that before. Pretty cool. :) I'm glad to hear everything is going well then, and that VC is tight with her fans. :)
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Well, with the Be Not Nobody special edition it has like....14 songs including remixes? A cd like that would be nice. :D :D
the one with 16 songs
it was 11 of the same
then different versions of 4 songs
-ATM (2)
-OD
-Twilight &
-Paradise
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Well, with the Be Not Nobody special edition it has like....14 songs including remixes? A cd like that would be nice. :D :D
the one with 16 songs
it was 11 of the same
then different versions of 4 songs
-ATM (2)
-OD
-Twilight &
-Paradise
yeah thats right. I have that version.
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Do you think we are able to hear the studioversion of Morning Sting one day, maybe on thisrecord or a B-Side of a single. I'd die to hear it with the brass Vanessa has put on it, like she said in an Interview. I realy want to hear it
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well thats pretty cool. I like that about her how close she is with her fans and stuff its pretty cool I never hear that with outher artists its all good I think I like that its pretty cool
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Ee I can't wait til her new album :) Four months! Almost exactly actually (9th was yesturday and it comes out Oct 9th so...but then again some months have 31 days...we should do a count down?) but I think on CDnow.com or some sites give you future relases like a few months head of time. We can find out then or even now. I know with amazon.com they don't really give you future relases that far ahead of time..I think.
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OMG all is well has to be on this album its sooooooooooo good. plus on the recording she said it was one of her favourite on the new record so surely she'll use it :D :D
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For her fans sakes, i hope she adds more songs, but also the new songs that dont make it should be re recorded in a studio, so we dont have to listen to these live ones , with all the squealing and yelling, that'd be great!
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I believe My Best and Best Behavior is same one song.
I read it somewhere...
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no they arent...some somewhere said they were....but they arent...
Weve heard Best Behavior...but he havent heard My Best yet :)
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So right now im guessing what we assume the track listing will sort of take shape like this :
1. Nolita Fairytale
2. Heroes and Thieves
3. This Time
4. The One
5. Hands on Me
6. Best Behavior
7. My Best
8. Spring Street
9. Wave Goodbye
10. Fools Like Me
11. Home
and we've guranteed heard, Home, Fools Like Me, Nolita [of course], Heroes and Thieves, The One [i believe], Hands on Me and possibly Best Behaviour?
Still i hope she adds more songs, coz we've waited ages for this xD
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^All is Well may be on there.
I really hope it is, at least.
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So right now im guessing what we assume the track listing will sort of take shape like this :
1. Nolita Fairytale
2. Heroes and Thieves
3. This Time
4. The One
5. Hands on Me
6. Best Behavior
7. My Best
8. Spring Street
9. Wave Goodbye
10. Fools Like Me
11. Home
and we've guranteed heard, Home, Fools Like Me, Nolita [of course], Heroes and Thieves, The One [i believe], Hands on Me and possibly Best Behaviour?
Still i hope she adds more songs, coz we've waited ages for this xD
well, damn if that's true, then we'll have almost heard the whole album. She sure has debuted a lot of the songs, if not most, from the entire album.
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no they arent...some somewhere said they were....but they arent...
Weve heard Best Behavior...but he havent heard My Best yet :)
There's a possibility Best Behavior is actually My Best. Vanessa hasn't performed Best Behavior in awhile, so she may have changed the song title and we're just unaware of it. There's no confirmation either way, so until Vanessa introduces and plays Best Behavior for another audience we won't know.
I mean, if Put Your Hands On Me was subject to a name change I wouldn't put it past Vanessa to change other titles around as well. Especially with Irv around giving his own suggestions for song titles, remember how he wanted to call Nolita Fairytale just "Fairytale." There's also some history in regards to title changes as well, Interlude > A Thousand Miles, Divide and Conquer > Ordinary Day etc.
So, we'll find out when we find out.
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Well I mean yeah we have pretty much heard like half to a little over a half of the album but I mean just live versions (beisdes nolita) so I mean when we hear the studio versions its like something new in a way but I don't know.
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no they arent...some somewhere said they were....but they arent...
Weve heard Best Behavior...but he havent heard My Best yet :)
There's a possibility Best Behavior is actually My Best. Vanessa hasn't performed Best Behavior in awhile, so she may have changed the song title and we're just unaware of it. There's no confirmation either way, so until Vanessa introduces and plays Best Behavior for another audience we won't know.
I mean, if Put Your Hands On Me was subject to a name change I wouldn't put it past Vanessa to change other titles around as well. Especially with Irv around giving his own suggestions for song titles, remember how he wanted to call Nolita Fairytale just "Fairytale." There's also some history in regards to title changes as well, Interlude > A Thousand Miles, Divide and Conquer > Ordinary Day etc.
So, we'll find out when we find out.
i think there is no chance that it is the same song... vanessa said this in her one of blog entries in april:
i am in sf now finishing up vocals on a brand new song that's definitely making the album. possibly the first single : ) it's called "my best" and it makes me sad when i sing it (in a good way)
she said my best is a Brand New song and that shes finishing the vocals on it.... shes premiered Best Behavior in 2005 so i would highly doubt she considers it a new song...and also last year two people from the boards got a chance to hang with vanessa in the studio and they got to hear best behaviro being recorded, so i doubt she is still working on the same song...
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it's not HER best, though, it's HIS best behavior. So if it were to make sense, it would be called "Your Best."
I think it's dumb to assume it's the same song just because it has the same word in the title.
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So right now im guessing what we assume the track listing will sort of take shape like this :
1. Nolita Fairytale
2. Heroes and Thieves
3. This Time
4. The One
5. Hands on Me
6. Best Behavior
7. My Best
8. Spring Street
9. Wave Goodbye
10. Fools Like Me
11. Home
and we've guranteed heard, Home, Fools Like Me, Nolita [of course], Heroes and Thieves, The One [i believe], Hands on Me and possibly Best Behaviour?
Still i hope she adds more songs, coz we've waited ages for this xD
I made this post a while ago, but it's still factual:
confirmed:
Nolita Fairytale
Hands On Me
Home
Heroes And Thieves
The One
Fools Like Me
Spring Street
My Best
that's 8...
and the probably's are:
All Is Well
This Time
Wave Goodbye
Best Behavior
rumored:
Thinking About You
which makes 13...
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So right now im guessing what we assume the track listing will sort of take shape like this :
1. Nolita Fairytale
2. Heroes and Thieves
3. This Time
4. The One
5. Hands on Me
6. Best Behavior
7. My Best
8. Spring Street
9. Wave Goodbye
10. Fools Like Me
11. Home
and we've guranteed heard, Home, Fools Like Me, Nolita [of course], Heroes and Thieves, The One [i believe], Hands on Me and possibly Best Behaviour?
Still i hope she adds more songs, coz we've waited ages for this xD
I made this post a while ago, but it's still factual:
confirmed:
Nolita Fairytale
Hands On Me
Home
Heroes And Thieves
The One
Fools Like Me
Spring Street
My Best
that's 8...
and the probably's are:
All Is Well
This Time
Wave Goodbye
Best Behavior
rumored:
Thinking About You
which makes 13...
13 songs would be good =D, since we've heard 6 of the confirmed 8, so 7 we didn't hear would be awesome. Only approx. 2 days and 2 months 8O
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So right now im guessing what we assume the track listing will sort of take shape like this :
1. Nolita Fairytale
2. Heroes and Thieves
3. This Time
4. The One
5. Hands on Me
6. Best Behavior
7. My Best
8. Spring Street
9. Wave Goodbye
10. Fools Like Me
11. Home
and we've guranteed heard, Home, Fools Like Me, Nolita [of course], Heroes and Thieves, The One [i believe], Hands on Me and possibly Best Behaviour?
Still i hope she adds more songs, coz we've waited ages for this xD
I made this post a while ago, but it's still factual:
confirmed:
Nolita Fairytale
Hands On Me
Home
Heroes And Thieves
The One
Fools Like Me
Spring Street
My Best
that's 8...
and the probably's are:
All Is Well
This Time
Wave Goodbye
Best Behavior
rumored:
Thinking About You
which makes 13...
13 songs would be good =D, since we've heard 6 of the confirmed 8, so 7 we didn't hear would be awesome. Only approx. 2 days and 2 months 8O
oh cool I never actually bothered to do the math on that. Felt like we had practically heard the whole album :?