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Vanessa Carlton => General Vanessa Carlton Discussion => Topic started by: Martin. on June 12, 2007, 04:45:23 am
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Vanessa Carlton is someone that we have always loved, even if it was just for one song.
We remember her ascent in to rap while praying that it was only a joke. Evidently it was just a joke, because she is back - and hopefully - this time she might just have an album that is remembered for more than one song.
And it seems that it is already off to a good start. Where 'Be Not Nobody' is now only remembered for 'A Thousand Miles' - 'Heroes and Thieves' has a chance of being remembered for something more than just 'Nolita Fairytale'.
Sadly though, it seems to be evident of the Kelly Clarkson furore over 'Never Again' that this is posted on her Wikipedia page: "Heroes and Thieves is scheduled to release on October 9, 2007. The first single will be Nolita Fairytale, which shall come out on July 17, 2007. If this does not work well as a single, then Hands on Me (Put Your Hands On Me) will possibly be the second single."
That's right. There is already a new first single, in effect, worked out if 'Nolita Fairytale' ends up being a burden to everything.
Thankfully though, 'Nolita Fairytale' is rather stupefying. It is just brilliant. And really, it is always great when people say that they've found some kind of fairytale. It just makes the whole song seem better. It makes you able to listen without crying over the lost record contract - because she has found a fairytale. Have a listen.
Over the coming week we're planning to revamp our singles chart and there is a chance that she might be in the top twenty, because that is the kind of song it is. Where Siobhan Donaghy is the bowling ball, Vanessa Carlton is the pin. Strike.
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where did you get that?
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It looks like it's from here.
http://hotstufffiles.com/2007/06/11/this-is-more-than-a-fairytale/
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nice this is cool.
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'Nolita Fairytale' is rather stupefying. It is just brilliant.
really?
am i missing something?
why do i dislike this song so much and everyone else seems to love it?
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It's great to see that it is getting some positive comments about the single!! I hope I am wrong and it does actually become a hit. Does anyone know anything about this source? Do they actually have any pull?
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'Nolita Fairytale' is rather stupefying. It is just brilliant.
really?
am i missing something?
why do i dislike this song so much and everyone else seems to love it?
well.. mabey your just trying to like it so much since ppl say its awesome and your not just letting it set in.and mabey you dont like it, thats not abd you cant like every song
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'Nolita Fairytale' is rather stupefying. It is just brilliant.
really?
am i missing something?
why do i dislike this song so much and everyone else seems to love it?
Don't worry; you're not the only one. I don't like it either.
The article is poorly written.... :?
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'Nolita Fairytale' is rather stupefying. It is just brilliant.
really?
am i missing something?
why do i dislike this song so much and everyone else seems to love it?
Don't worry; you're not the only one. I don't like it either.
The article is poorly written.... :?
The article is not poorly written just because the person who wrote it likes the song and you don't.
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noo.. the evaluation of the level of writing in this article has nothing do with Megan's opinion of the song... the article is indeed written quite poorly (i'm guessing a high schooler wrote it?)
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yea I agree.. .pretty poorly written and so I doubt it has much pull.
and I love the song :)
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yea I agree.. .pretty poorly written and so I doubt it has much pull.
and I love the song :)
yeah, that is what I figured. And I definately agree - whoever wrote this is not able to write very well. At least it is positive towards nessa. We can only hope the media has similar (albit well written) comments.
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I dont understand how anyone can't like the song, it's so melodic!
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i think it's classic V with a twist....as a songwriter i know that your style changes with age and i like it when artists grow because their fans grow with them you wouldn't want her music to be exactly the same all the time that would be crap.
Personally though i kinda hope it fails coz i really really really want PYOHM to be the first single!!! YAY!!!!!
and there right you can't like every nessa song 'annie' took friggin ages to grow on me......AGES! I still don't like she floats and rinse......well it's only fun when you play it..
so don't feel bad if you don't like it!!!! it's only one song on the album!
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i think it's classic V with a twist....as a songwriter i know that your style changes with age and i like it when artists grow because their fans grow with them you wouldn't want her music to be exactly the same all the time that would be crap.
growth is great.. i'm all for it. but i feel like she's taken a step backwards with nolita fairytale. i mean, from who's to say, private radio, winter(!), c'est la vie.. to "got my toes on my pup at the foot of my bed"? i mean, really...
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Personally though i kinda hope it fails coz i really really really want PYOHM to be the first single!!! YAY!!!!!
Die now.
kiiiidding.
Don't say that. Besides, you never know. Hands On Me might come out as the second single.
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I am so hoping that Nolita Fairytale will do well enough to let Heroes and Thieves have a second single.
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Why is everyone so hard on NF? You guys are suppose to be fans and your just dissing V? I like the song, it's good. So stick that in your pipe and Fuck off.
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Why is everyone so hard on NF? You guys are suppose to be fans and your just dissing V? I like the song, it's good. So stick that in your pipe and Fuck off.
Hold on. Personally I like NF, but just because people haven't taken to it for multiple reasons doesn't make them less of a fan. They're not 'dissing' V, they're criticizing NF. Maybe if you're too immature to handle that then maybe you're the one who needs to fuck off.
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Why is everyone so hard on NF? You guys are suppose to be fans and your just dissing V? I like the song, it's good. So stick that in your pipe and Fuck off.
I am a fan of Vanessa but this song sucks. And even my pipe wouldn't make the song any better.
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I like the song and I hope it does well. I do think some of the lyrics are odd but I sing along anyway. I can't wait for the album to come out and I am gonna request this song to radio stations like my life depends on it because I want Heroes and Thieves to be successful. I think if someone is on this forum then they have every right to tell us their opinion of this song. But even if you don't like this song you shouldn't write off H&T yet because I know there will be some kickass songs on it! 8)
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Personally though i kinda hope it fails coz i really really really want PYOHM to be the first single!!! YAY!!!!!
Even if it fails and Hands on Me is released as a single it would be the second single.
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Why is everyone so hard on NF? You guys are suppose to be fans and your just dissing V? I like the song, it's good. So stick that in your pipe and Fuck off.
just because you're a fan of someone doesn't mean you're obligated to like everything that they put out though....
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Why is everyone so hard on NF? You guys are suppose to be fans and your just dissing V? I like the song, it's good. So stick that in your pipe and Fuck off.
pathetic people like you crack me up. just because we have our own opinions that differ from yours and vanessa's, doesn't mean we're not fans or we're dissing vanessa. i don't understand why you people don't get that. it's ridiculous.
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Why is everyone so hard on NF? You guys are suppose to be fans and your just dissing V? I like the song, it's good. So stick that in your pipe and Fuck off.
I am a fan of Vanessa but this song sucks. And even my pipe wouldn't make the song any better.
I love your whole "because I said so...BITCH" attitude.
EDIT: I think we should all chill out...or else I'm gonna grab a piano and whack someone over the head with it XD.
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noo.. the evaluation of the level of writing in this article has nothing do with Megan's opinion of the song... the article is indeed written quite poorly (i'm guessing a high schooler wrote it?)
Thankyou.
.white_houses Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 2:45 pm Post subject: Re: NF
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liquidblue244 wrote:
Why is everyone so hard on NF? You guys are suppose to be fans and your just dissing V? I like the song, it's good. So stick that in your pipe and Fuck off.
just because you're a fan of someone doesn't mean you're obligated to like everything that they put out though....
Exactly what I was going to say... but you beat me to it. :)
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isn't that what a forum is... somwehere to post oppinions. and comunicate with other people?
I will admit.. I did not like the song at all in the begining.. it is definatly not my favorite, but I like it more than unsung.... it has grown on me a lot. I like it live... I am not going to adore everything vanessa though.. I dont think there is anyone that you love everything about them..
the song is meh... i mean it is like putting unsun on the radio or something like that.... putting prince on the radio... it just does not seem like a radio song.. but people seemed to kind be lukewarm at the premere tonight... idk
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Unsung is an awesome song and should have been a single! ;)
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Unsung is an awesome song and should have been a single! ;)
I agree :)
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i think it's classic V with a twist....as a songwriter i know that your style changes with age and i like it when artists grow because their fans grow with them you wouldn't want her music to be exactly the same all the time that would be crap.
growth is great.. i'm all for it. but i feel like she's taken a step backwards with nolita fairytale. i mean, from who's to say, private radio, winter(!), c'est la vie.. to "got my toes on my pup at the foot of my bed"? i mean, really...
yeah i know what you mean but it definetly seems to be the popular style of writing at the moment with experienced recording artists. Read any lyrics out there by a female singer/songwriter and it's becoming quite the trend!
i still love the song i think it has a really original hook going on.
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growth is great.. i'm all for it. but i feel like she's taken a step backwards with nolita fairytale. i mean, from who's to say, private radio, winter(!), c'est la vie.. to "got my toes on my pup at the foot of my bed"? i mean, really...
lol.
How do you go from "I'm Like A Birrrrrrrrd" to "Promiscuous Gurrrrl."
*hits Nelly Furtado over the head with a baking tray*
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growth is great.. i'm all for it. but i feel like she's taken a step backwards with nolita fairytale. i mean, from who's to say, private radio, winter(!), c'est la vie.. to "got my toes on my pup at the foot of my bed"? i mean, really...
lol.
How do you go from "I'm Like A Birrrrrrrrd" to "Promiscuous Gurrrrl."
*hits Nelly Furtado over the head with a baking tray*
I believe you have Timbaland to thank for that. :wink:
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I also think Unsung would have done well as a single!! Much better than Pretty Baby... imo that song was a disaster.
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growth is great.. i'm all for it. but i feel like she's taken a step backwards with nolita fairytale. i mean, from who's to say, private radio, winter(!), c'est la vie.. to "got my toes on my pup at the foot of my bed"? i mean, really...
lol.
How do you go from "I'm Like A Birrrrrrrrd" to "Promiscuous Gurrrrl."
*hits Nelly Furtado over the head with a baking tray*
my point exactly, man.
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Do you think any of Nelly Furtado's "Im Like A Birrrrrrd" fans are all like "EWWW GROSS PROMISCUOUS SHE'S SELLING OUT?"
Hmmm...
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Do you think any of Nelly Furtado's "Im Like A Birrrrrrd" fans are all like "EWWW GROSS PROMISCUOUS SHE'S SELLING OUT?"
Hmmm...
I was.
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Do you think any of Nelly Furtado's "Im Like A Birrrrrrd" fans are all like "EWWW GROSS PROMISCUOUS SHE'S SELLING OUT?"
Hmmm...
i did.. but i was never really a major fan...
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the thing is-nolita fairytale is exceedingly catchy. Lyricaly (sp?) its not as clever as her older songs. But musicaly, its genius. Most people loved it right away :D
although I am a huge fan of all her songs, some take getting used to. Not everyone is patient enough to listen to them repetitivly.
and lastly- unsung wouldnt have done well! Its so hard to like. I'm only just beginning to like it and I have had the album for years :lol:
OK i'm done =]
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Do you think any of Nelly Furtado's "Im Like A Birrrrrrd" fans are all like "EWWW GROSS PROMISCUOUS SHE'S SELLING OUT?"
Hmmm...
i did.. but i was never really a major fan...
Very true. Her old stuff is good,but I never really found myself listening to it as much as with Vanessa or some other music artist.
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just because someone is changing they're style, doesn't mean they're selling out. people change.
you can't expect people to be the same person they were 6 or 7 years ago.
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I don't think V is selling out, but I kind of think Nelly Furty did.
But hey! This is about V!
So, yeah. October 9th. ^_^.
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just because someone is changing they're style, doesn't mean they're selling out. people change.
you can't expect people to be the same person they were 6 or 7 years ago.
I totally agree....i dont think Nelly sold out...this just seems to be the musical style she feels comfortable with now...she doesnt seem like the kind of person who would just do that to sell more records and appeal to more people/..
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Vanessa is not selling out like Nelly Furtado did, this song is not that much different from her old ones it's just less piano oriented; also if you listen to the other songs that will be in the album like "Heroes and Thieves" or "Hands on Me" it becomes pretty obvious that she is not changing her style and these songs don't sound like the music that we listen on the radio all the time, so it's not like she is desperately seeking for commercial success (even if she could use some), wich is what Nelly Furtado did with "Loose" (or at least that's how I see it).
So, what Nelly Furtado did and what Vanessa is doing are very different things, I understand that some of you don't like "Nolita Fairytale" but that doesn't mean that Vanessa is selling out.
When did this become about Nelly Furtado anyway?
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i don't know.. i don't think she's quite selling out, but i wish she went to radio with something less bubble gum-y and poppy.. i think hands on me would be perfect. or heroes and thieves, which was originally supposed to be the first single.
now, i don't remember everything about spring street and wave goodbye, cuz that was a long time ago, but at least one of them reminded me of techno or something like that.. that would be very close to what i'd call selling out. but like i said.. i don't remember it all.
i would like to point out something, that i think i've pointed out before.. i don't really like nolita fairytale.. and i haven't listened to it in a pretty long time, but i still have it stuck in my head. that's not all that great for me, because i don't like it, but at least it's catchy and that will probably help radio play..
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she's not selling out. I think she's trying to stick it to her old label.
regardless.......she's amazing. I love the song. that's it
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I don't know how some people can say they have doubts on how well it is going to do AND also say she is doing anything close to selling out. Think about that for a second. The song is just different. Once you figure out it's your perception let us know.
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When did this become about Nelly Furtado anyway?
I asked about it.
But I didn't intend for WWIII to break out :P
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When did this become about Nelly Furtado anyway?
I asked about it.
But I didn't intend for WWIII to break out :P
LOL, no world wars here. Just arguing sense. It comes rarely to me now so I have to make the point when I see it. :razz:
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what a bunch of babies.....
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what a bunch of babies.....
Can we ban Jen yet? :razz: She is now trying to inflame the emotions of people she calls babies. Just ignore the kiddos, kiddo. :roll:
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the thing is-nolita fairytale is exceedingly catchy. Lyricaly (sp?) its not as clever as her older songs. But musicaly, its genius. Most people loved it right away :D
although I am a huge fan of all her songs, some take getting used to. Not everyone is patient enough to listen to them repetitivly.
and lastly- unsung wouldnt have done well! Its so hard to like. I'm only just beginning to like it and I have had the album for years :lol:
OK i'm done =]
I liked Unsung 1st time I heard it.... everyone has a different opinion.
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the thing is-nolita fairytale is exceedingly catchy. Lyricaly (sp?) its not as clever as her older songs. But musicaly, its genius.
i disagree. i think her lyrics are amazing. they're simple and somtimes "simple is best". its not as innocent as atm, but its not as dark and deep as her songs on harmonium. i think the lyrics sound more accepting and pure. they simple words are describing how she feels in the simplest way she knows and is trying to communicate that to the listener.
the "pop"-y sound is just what she might seem to feel inside and thats how she can show her emotions within the song.
when i listen to songs, i see colors, so ill try and do it that way if the above way made no sense. when you listen to atm i picture colors of "innocence" like whtie, light pinks and light yellows. when you hear songs on harmonium, i think of dark, right colors like brown and red sometimes. but on nf i see a pure white and dark, rich greens. i think she's found a way in herself to express the depth of her songs by using simple lyrics.
am i making any sense? sorry if im not.
wording things isn't my strength. =)
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the thing is-nolita fairytale is exceedingly catchy. Lyricaly (sp?) its not as clever as her older songs. But musicaly, its genius.
i disagree. i think her lyrics are amazing. they're simple and somtimes "simple is best". its not as innocent as atm, but its not as dark and deep as her songs on harmonium. i think the lyrics sound more accepting and pure. they simple words are describing how she feels in the simplest way she knows and is trying to communicate that to the listener.
the "pop"-y sound is just what she might seem to feel inside and thats how she can show her emotions within the song.
when i listen to songs, i see colors, so ill try and do it that way if the above way made no sense. when you listen to atm i picture colors of "innocence" like whtie, light pinks and light yellows. when you hear songs on harmonium, i think of dark, right colors like brown and red sometimes. but on nf i see a pure white and dark, rich greens. i think she's found a way in herself to express the depth of her songs by using simple lyrics.
am i making any sense? sorry if im not.
wording things isn't my strength. =)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synesthesia
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^ Do you actually see the colors, like you're tripping on drugs, or do you just think in your head and associate the music with a certain color? Because I can associate certain musical tones with colors, but it's not something completely weird. To me Nolita Fairytale seems like it would have bright colors like yellow and bright green or pink. Idk just bright, summery fun colors.
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dunno if this has been posted...
(http://www.aceshowbiz.com/images/events/SGS-010901.jpg)
Seemingly following the main trend in music industry lately, pop crooner Vanessa Carlton stepped up with R&B producer Irving "Gotti" Lorenzo for her next album. Gotti admits to play the role as "co-pilot" in Carlton's third album "Heroes and Thieves".
In late 2006, Carlton was signed by Gotti's recording house "The Inc." to do a record under the label. Those asked to come on board for this project are 7 Aurelius, Rick Rubin and Third Eye Blind lead singer Stephan Jenkins, who also did his part in Carlton's second album "Harmonium".
"I think Irv is a fantastic A&R man, and he really can't contain his excitement," Carlton said upon the collaboration. "He has like, no filter, when it comes to expressing himself, and I thought that unbounded energy was so appealing. He's a fantastic music executive. They're hard to find. So, I took the step."
On personal level, Carlton describes this album as "the best patch of songs I've ever written". It will include some songs that she co-wrote with hitmaker Linda Perry. "It's a pretty uplifting album with a lot of layers going on in," Carlton says. "(There are) very complex arrangements but everything just makes me feel good and not in a simplistic way. It's the most honest album I ever made, and it's the only record I've made that I really look at as a body of work as opposed to a bunch of songs put together. I think that shows. It really does feel like a real album."
"Heroes and Thieves" will arrive in stores October 9 with first single "Nolita Fairytale" hitting U.S. radio on July 17. Her second single is hinted as "Home", a ballad to balance her first up-tempo single.
Confirmed tracks so far are:
Nolita Fairytale
Hands On Me
Home
Heroes And Thieves
The One
Fools Like Me
Spring Street
My Best
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dunno if this has been posted...
Your icon is truly creepy.
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the thing is-nolita fairytale is exceedingly catchy. Lyricaly (sp?) its not as clever as her older songs. But musicaly, its genius. Most people loved it right away :D
although I am a huge fan of all her songs, some take getting used to. Not everyone is patient enough to listen to them repetitivly.
and lastly- unsung wouldnt have done well! Its so hard to like. I'm only just beginning to like it and I have had the album for years :lol:
OK i'm done =]
I liked Unsung 1st time I heard it.... everyone has a different opinion.
exactly- if some people do like it and some dont, it may not have done well. nolita fairytale is something alot of people loved immediatly =]
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^ Do you actually see the colors, like you're tripping on drugs, or do you just think in your head and associate the music with a certain color? Because I can associate certain musical tones with colors, but it's not something completely weird. To me Nolita Fairytale seems like it would have bright colors like yellow and bright green or pink. Idk just bright, summery fun colors.
HAHA=)
no i guess i associate the music with colors.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synesthesia
thanks for that! =)
now i can actually use that word.
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dunno if this has been posted...
Your icon is truly creepy.
thanks...
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what a bunch of babies.....
Can we ban Jen yet? :razz: She is now trying to inflame the emotions of people she calls babies. Just ignore the kiddos, kiddo. :roll:
:mrgreen: psssssssh .......omg like ban me like see if i really give a shit..like ya ok....i never like really liked you anyway :roll:
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what a bunch of babies.....
Can we ban Jen yet? :razz: She is now trying to inflame the emotions of people she calls babies. Just ignore the kiddos, kiddo. :roll:
:mrgreen: psssssssh .......omg like ban me like see if i really give a shit..like ya ok....i never like really liked you anyway :roll:
You liked me? 8O Like ok. like OMG, Delta Delta Delta :twisted:
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what a bunch of babies.....
Can we ban Jen yet? :razz: She is now trying to inflame the emotions of people she calls babies. Just ignore the kiddos, kiddo. :roll:
:mrgreen: psssssssh .......omg like ban me like see if i really give a shit..like ya ok....i never like really liked you anyway :roll:
You liked me?
like no.
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what a bunch of babies.....
Can we ban Jen yet? :razz: She is now trying to inflame the emotions of people she calls babies. Just ignore the kiddos, kiddo. :roll:
:mrgreen: psssssssh .......omg like ban me like see if i really give a shit..like ya ok....i never like really liked you anyway :roll:
You liked me?
like no.
:)
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:roflmao:
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heh what a loser. She thinks she's cool. How amusing :lol:
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:roflmao:
Is someone playing soccer with her head or something?
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:roflmao:
Is someone playing soccer with her head or something?
LOL
If they are, I want a go =D
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sounds interesting
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Now now children.
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say hello to my little friend. :2guns:
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wow...
anyway, did anybody sign up for that ratethemusic site that i put on here?
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say hello to my little friend. :2guns:
your friend doesnt seem to like you.
he seems to be shooting at your head.
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say hello to my little friend. :2guns:
your friend doesnt seem to like you.
he seems to be shooting at your head.
quit trying to start something with me...:roll:
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say hello to my little friend. :2guns:
your friend doesnt seem to like you.
he seems to be shooting at your head.
quit trying to start something with me...:roll:
i'm not staring anything...your the one who seems to have death wishes for people, not me.
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maybe y'all should get over yourselves and shut up.
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maybe y'all should get over yourselves and shut up.
alryte love! calm down!
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maybe y'all should get over yourselves and shut up.
ROTFL.