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Vanessa Carlton => General Vanessa Carlton Discussion => Topic started by: kaysha on August 05, 2007, 04:03:30 am
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I hear Vanessa will have an 8 page feature in Giant Magazine coming up.
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Anyone get this magazine? Looks like to receive it is only $8 / yr on the GiantMag (http://www.giantmag.com/) website :)
-katia
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I'm so making myself a sig with those!
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Wow, she looks really beautiful - especially in the first picture!
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I so love the way she gets a lil' sexed up... but yet it doesnt get vulgar or explicit... Its very tasteful...
Seeing her legs around alot these days I'd have to say she has every right to flaunt what shes got...
*drools over the last pic...*
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V looks soo pretty in the first pic.
I hope somebody is able to get bigger scans! :) I look forward to reading the article
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Any HQ pics out there?
*drools* :oops:
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Any HQ pics out there?
*drools* :oops:
I don't think the article is out yet. I was looking into how to sign up for GiantMagazine so i could read the article when it comes out.
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Oh alright. I wonder if I could find it in France, hmmm...
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jeez! V is getin hotter by the minute!!! :D :D :D
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O. M. G.
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those are beautiful, thank you for posting them katia!
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she stole Amy Winehouse's hair hive thing haha
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I've never heard of that magazine before. Kind I say she looks FREAKING HOT!!! 8O thats what cool about her she can be sooo sexy without being all half naked! do they sell the mag at like stores? Or do you have to but it at the website or something?
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Shes got the bird earings agian!
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My fav is the fourth one: awesome picture :roll:
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wow....
awesome pictures!
can't wait to read it :)
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those are beautiful, thank you for posting them katia!
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she stole Amy Winehouse's hair hive thing haha
Well at least Vanessa isn't gross and trashy like Winehouse is. Seriously, ew.
Otherwise, Vanessa looks beauuuutiful/
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Who shot it? does anyone know?
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She really is getting more and more beautiful all the time!
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those are beautiful, thank you for posting them katia!
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she stole Amy Winehouse's hair hive thing haha
Well at least Vanessa isn't gross and trashy like Winehouse is. Seriously, ew.
Otherwise, Vanessa looks beauuuutiful/
I respect what you have to say. But what makes you say Winehouse is trashy? Just because you're not used to her style? Mmm... that doesn't make her trashy.
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she looks soo beautiful!
i cant wait to read the article.. :)
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I hear Vanessa will have an 8 page feature in Giant Magazine coming up.
-katia
how did you get pics?
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I hear Vanessa will have an 8 page feature in Giant Magazine coming up.
-katia
how did you get pics?
a gnome hand delivered to her the pictures saved onto a unicorn decorated ancient floppy disk!
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a gnome hand delivered to her the pictures saved onto a unicorn decorated ancient floppy disk!
LMAO! hahahaha
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She looks hot because she IS hot. :) Enough photo shoots like that and she's going to have alot of guys drooling over her. :razz:
I could probably find the magazine somewhere around here.
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a gnome hand delivered to her the pictures saved onto a unicorn decorated ancient floppy disk!
Are you sure it wasn't a house-elf?? ;)
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I hear Vanessa will have an 8 page feature in Giant Magazine coming up.
-katia
how did you get pics?
a gnome hand delivered to her the pictures saved onto a unicorn decorated ancient floppy disk!
exactly ;)
Steve - why does it matter? We (nh.com) have relationships with several sources, we don't hide that. We are working with the label, her mgmt and anyone else that is interested to promote Vanessa. We receive contact from radio stations and magazines with Vanessa related updates quite often. As soon as we hear something, we try to get it posted and shared with the community.
I will be honest, when I first read your response I was annoyed but I really do want to know what is at the root of your question so maybe we can address that.
-katia
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I can read some of the captions on those, and in one she says something about listening to Amy Winehouse's song "Love is a losing game".
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LOL.. "Floppy disks" I remember those...
Nice pics. Very elegant.
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I can read some of the captions on those, and in one she says something about listening to Amy Winehouse's song "Love is a losing game".
it says:
"I was listening to Amy Winehouse's Love is a Loosing Game, ' and I just feel like in some ways it is. -- than not, love is a loosing game."
some other quotes:
"I think institutions are the death of humanity. I'll take it that far, I always have to be an individual. I can never conform"
"I call irv my 'Ganesh' , Ganesh is a warrior who never gives up, and he fights with a smile and wins through positivity. Irv's my warrior"
(I don't know if that's Ganesh written, cuz ganesh is more of a lord of obstacles and abundance and stuff, not really a 'warrior' but I don't know, can't read it well)
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In WHITE HOUSES!
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Quote:
"I was listening to Amy Winehouse's Love is a Loosing Game, ' and I just feel like in some ways it is. -- than not, love is a loosing game."
I think it says "More often than not, ..." if that makes sense...?
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I love the pictures.
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Quote:
"I was listening to Amy Winehouse's Love is a Loosing Game, ' and I just feel like in some ways it is. -- than not, love is a loosing game."
I think it says "More often than not, ..." if that makes sense...?
yeah, that's it .thanx :)
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Wow, she looks really beautiful - especially in the first picture!
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omg she's soooooooooooooooo pretty!
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amazing pictures, especially the first one!
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Those pictures are really amazing! Sensual!
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I hear Vanessa will have an 8 page feature in Giant Magazine coming up.
-katia
how did you get pics?
a gnome hand delivered to her the pictures saved onto a unicorn decorated ancient floppy disk!
exactly ;)
Steve - why does it matter? We (nh.com) have relationships with several sources, we don't hide that. We are working with the label, her mgmt and anyone else that is interested to promote Vanessa. We receive contact from radio stations and magazines with Vanessa related updates quite often. As soon as we hear something, we try to get it posted and shared with the community.
I will be honest, when I first read your response I was annoyed but I really do want to know what is at the root of your question so maybe we can address that.
-katia
Oh no- I was just wondering if there was like an online subscription that you could join... I just wanted to read the article. I assumed it was just an online subscription to giant- I did not find it on their page
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It's pretty sad that she thinks more often than not love is a losing game! Sure there are relationships that don't work out, especially romantic relationships, but there is more than one kind of love!
Also, nice pics. For some reason in the closeups, or the ones that focus on her face, she looks younger to me. Maybe it's her updo and the eyelash extensions... and the black and white-ness. But they are good shots!
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Take it from someone who has given up on love: You don't want to give up on love, because eventually everything else falls with it. And it is very hard to get anything with nothing.
It's better to have love as a bad visitor than loneliness as a resident.
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Take it from someone who has given up on love: You don't want to give up on love, because eventually everything else falls with it. And it is very hard to get anything with nothing.
It's better to have love as a bad visitor than loneliness as a resident.
deep
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oh my goodness i'm going to sound like an ad again.
i've been looking around giant mag website, and the issue with the article about vanessa is available at the giant mag store. the august/september one right? with prince/chris brown on the cover. $4.99 and free shipping for now.
http://giant.bigcartel.com/product/prince-19
http://giant.bigcartel.com/product/chris-brown-19
so. that's how i'm going to get my hands on it. =D
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^all of their magazines seem to have two different covers as option, that's pretty cool :) so which cover do the subscribers get, do they choose? :S
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omg v is so hot so hot! i love how she looks here, just a tad of sexy without overdoing it. and she looks so good! haha yeah i wonder why they have dual covers for every single issue though..
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i just bought mine. hopefully i get it within a week.
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Am I the only one wondering what the whole Desert Rose thing is about? It seems like that is the title of the article! I'm wondering if it's the name of one of her new songs, or if they just thought it sounded like a good header for the style of pictures? Idk. Weird.
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Am I the only one wondering what the whole Desert Rose thing is about? It seems like that is the title of the article! I'm wondering if it's the name of one of her new songs, or if they just thought it sounded like a good header for the style of pictures? Idk. Weird.
I was wondering that from the first time I saw the article posted...
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it probably refers to something they discuss in the article, or perhaps a way she describes herself.
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Or maybe she's covering the Sting song on HaT? haha
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To tell you the truth, the first thing that popped into my head was Arizona; since she goes there every year. But that can't be correct.
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Or maybe she's covering the Sting song on HaT? haha
Eee, I hope she's not covering that song. I didn't like the original!
I hope if she does a cover song that it's a Stevie Nicks song and I always hoped it would be Edge of Seventeen... then awhile back someone said she covered it live. I'm not sure if that's true bc I never heard anything else about it. But I'd love to hear her version of that song. It reminds me of something V would sing if given the opportunity :)
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Or maybe she's covering the Sting song on HaT? haha
Eee, I hope she's not covering that song. I didn't like the original!
I hope if she does a cover song that it's a Stevie Nicks song and I always hoped it would be Edge of Seventeen... then awhile back someone said she covered it live. I'm not sure if that's true bc I never heard anything else about it. But I'd love to hear her version of that song. It reminds me of something V would sing if given the opportunity :)
Dude! I've been thinking about covering that song! It's a good one.
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Or maybe she's covering the Sting song on HaT? haha
Eee, I hope she's not covering that song. I didn't like the original!
I hope if she does a cover song that it's a Stevie Nicks song and I always hoped it would be Edge of Seventeen... then awhile back someone said she covered it live. I'm not sure if that's true bc I never heard anything else about it. But I'd love to hear her version of that song. It reminds me of something V would sing if given the opportunity :)
Dude! I've been thinking about covering that song! It's a good one.
Desert Rose or Edge of Seventeen? No offense, Shannon, but I can't see you doing Edge of Seventeen and doing it justice. It's probably because I would be reminded of Lindsay Lohan covering the song and would just get all bitter and angry.
But if you did Desert Rose, I can totally see that. For some reason.
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Or maybe she's covering the Sting song on HaT? haha
Eee, I hope she's not covering that song. I didn't like the original!
I hope if she does a cover song that it's a Stevie Nicks song and I always hoped it would be Edge of Seventeen... then awhile back someone said she covered it live. I'm not sure if that's true bc I never heard anything else about it. But I'd love to hear her version of that song. It reminds me of something V would sing if given the opportunity :)
Dude! I've been thinking about covering that song! It's a good one.
Desert Rose or Edge of Seventeen? No offense, Shannon, but I can't see you doing Edge of Seventeen and doing it justice. It's probably because I would be reminded of Lindsay Lohan covering the song and would just get all bitter and angry.
But if you did Desert Rose, I can totally see that. For some reason.
I hate Sting. I was talking about Edge of Seventeen. And you might be surprised - I seem to do Heart's "Magic Man" justice. :wink:
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Or maybe she's covering the Sting song on HaT? haha
Eee, I hope she's not covering that song. I didn't like the original!
I hope if she does a cover song that it's a Stevie Nicks song and I always hoped it would be Edge of Seventeen... then awhile back someone said she covered it live. I'm not sure if that's true bc I never heard anything else about it. But I'd love to hear her version of that song. It reminds me of something V would sing if given the opportunity :)
Dude! I've been thinking about covering that song! It's a good one.
Desert Rose or Edge of Seventeen? No offense, Shannon, but I can't see you doing Edge of Seventeen and doing it justice. It's probably because I would be reminded of Lindsay Lohan covering the song and would just get all bitter and angry.
But if you did Desert Rose, I can totally see that. For some reason.
I hate Sting. I was talking about Edge of Seventeen. And you might be surprised - I seem to do Heart's "Magic Man" justice. :wink:
Hmm... if you reworked the song and did it P/V, then I can see it working. I'll try and forget about Lindsay.
And I'd love to see you do "Magic Man", haha. Heart is awesome. That's a really high-register song, though.
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=] so i got my hands on a copy of the mag. i lied. i didn't go giantmag's store. you guys can also get it from Barnes&Nobles, and it's under the entertainment in the magazine section.
desert rose is indeed the title, not a cover. =]
and just zomg, she looks so beautiful. and she sounds kind of cynical, especially about love. =[ poor v.
a song "more than this" is mentioned, is that something i haven't heard about or a retitling?
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=] so i got my hands on a copy of the mag. i lied. i didn't go giantmag's store. you guys can also get it from Barnes&Nobles, and it's under the entertainment in the magazine section.
desert rose is indeed the title, not a cover. =]
and just zomg, she looks so beautiful. and she sounds kind of cynical, especially about love. =[ poor v.
a song "more than this" is mentioned, is that something i haven't heard about or a retitling?
Ahh really?? I haven't heard of that! What does it say?
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=] so i got my hands on a copy of the mag. i lied. i didn't go giantmag's store. you guys can also get it from Barnes&Nobles, and it's under the entertainment in the magazine section.
desert rose is indeed the title, not a cover. =]
and just zomg, she looks so beautiful. and she sounds kind of cynical, especially about love. =[ poor v.
a song "more than this" is mentioned, is that something i haven't heard about or a retitling?
Ahh really?? I haven't heard of that! What does it say?
do you mean about the song?
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=] so i got my hands on a copy of the mag. i lied. i didn't go giantmag's store. you guys can also get it from Barnes&Nobles, and it's under the entertainment in the magazine section.
desert rose is indeed the title, not a cover. =]
and just zomg, she looks so beautiful. and she sounds kind of cynical, especially about love. =[ poor v.
a song "more than this" is mentioned, is that something i haven't heard about or a retitling?
Ahh really?? I haven't heard of that! What does it say?
do you mean about the song?
Yesh I do :nod:.
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=] so i got my hands on a copy of the mag. i lied. i didn't go giantmag's store. you guys can also get it from Barnes&Nobles, and it's under the entertainment in the magazine section.
desert rose is indeed the title, not a cover. =]
and just zomg, she looks so beautiful. and she sounds kind of cynical, especially about love. =[ poor v.
a song "more than this" is mentioned, is that something i haven't heard about or a retitling?
Ahh really?? I haven't heard of that! What does it say?
do you mean about the song?
Yesh I do :nod:.
sorry, i'm a little discombobulated today. i doubt i spelled that right.
but here:
In the song "More Than This", from her upcoming album Heroes & Thieves, Carlton uses the desert as the backdrop for her musings on a turbulent and ultimately doomed love affair. "I was in a relationship, and I [felt like] when you're with someone else, they can never have enough. It's like they don't realize that if they wanted to declare peace, it would just be peaceful. The song is saying how you could experience euphoria if, in this moment, you decided that you didn't need any more than this. But I don't know... Maybe it's hard to actively make that decision."
yes, i think the title of the article is also derived from this.[/i]
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That is awesome! Thanks so much for sharing :D.
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yay, new song!
thanks! :D
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Ooh, I'm gonna ask her to play that tomorrow. :) Actually, I'm probably going to request "Fools Like Me" or "Spring Street".
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nmhmm omg do so! do you think she would say no? Hopefully not. agh your one lucky duck!!!! 8O
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Yay!! its great to hear about a new song :)
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Can somebody please add readable scans for those of us who dont have access to the magazine??
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Can somebody please add readable scans for those of us who dont have access to the magazine??
That would be great if someone could :)
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If one of my people would be nice enough to buy one copy for me, that'd be appreciated! :)
How much is the magazine btw?
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Startin on page 3 :Vanessa walks hurriedly down mulberry street in ney york city's nolita neighborhood wearing a loose- fitting sleeveless black dressthat exposes her long,slender legs.Her long brown hair skims her shoulders as she walks. Flat sandals, dark sunglasses, and an off white panama hat (yay the hat) ,which could be a star-posing-as-a-normal-girl in disguise or just a funky,hipster-inspired getup. Shes startled when i walk up to greet her but quickly regains her composure and says "Great,your here already." Her flat tone suggests politeness but nothing more. She makes no offensive remarks or friendly gestures-not even a smile-and i'm instantly aware that Carlton couldn't care less about my perception of her.
We walked into Ruby's cafe a charming hole-in-the-wall with exposed brick walls and a half-dozen bench-like tables. The Austrailian-run resturant has become one of Carlton's favorite haunts since she bought an apartment in the neighborhood. Carlton plops down opposite me, takes her shades off and rests her elbows on the table. In a few hours she'll be on a plane to Cairo Egypt, with her 17-year -old brother to visit her cousin,who she says lives alongs the Nile River
"It's my first time time going their," Carlton begins,fiddling with her chipped finger nail polish. "It's wierd because the culture is so oppressive toward women. My sister's been there, and I've read all these books. Women have to be covered up completely. I don't want to stand out at all. I was actually in the car taking off my nail polish because they look at you funny. And then i was reading abolut female genital mutilation-they cut girls clitorises off with. like no anesthetic when there're nine years old. It's just disgusting." The 26-year-old shakes her head to punctuate her repulsion, then adds, "I think in Egypt I'll learn a new perspective,and it will be and amazing thing to observe."
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If one of my people would be nice enough to buy one copy for me, that'd be appreciated! :)
How much is the magazine btw?
from the site, 4.99 in USD, but from barnes&nobles 3.99.
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Page five: Not that she's viewing the trip as a sociological experiment. Instead, Carlton who recently ended a four year relationship with Third Eye Blind frontman Stephan Jenkins,hopes the trip will yield clarity and serenity.
"I love the desert," she says. "In the summer my family goes to this ranch in Arizona,and I'll ride horses or go on these long runs. "I'll sit and meditate because everything is still. There are no leaves,so the wind blows and thothing moves-thats a big part of why i love it. The desert brings me the most peace."
In the song "More Than This," from her upcoming album,Heroes and Thieves, Carlton uses the desert as tha backdrop for her musings on a turbulent and ultamately doomed love affair. "I was in a relationship, and I [felt like] when yolu're with someone else,they can never have enough. I'ts like they don't realize that if they wanted to declare peace, it would just be peaceful. The song is saying how you could experince euphoria if, in this moment, you decided you didn't need any more than this.But I don't know....Maybe it's hard to actively make that decision."
Carlton's debut single "A Tousand Miles," introduced the world to a new brand of pop star :a classically trained pianist with a gift for intricate melodies and a pleasant and sweet,if not necessarily extra ordinary, voice. As i watch her eyes wander into the distance, it's clear Carlton's no longer the naive ingenue she was five years ago when she sang those lyrics.
She lets out a small, cynical laugh. "That was such and idiotic thing to say;I would never in a lillions years say that agian," Carlton says of her breakout song's chorus,"Cause you know I'd walk a thousand miles/If i could just see you tonight."
"There can be an amazing connection between two people, but at the end of the day, theye're human, and there are a lot of flaws.There's so much frailty to that love. I was listening to Amy Whinehouses's 'Love Is a Loosing Game,' and I just feel like in some ways it is. More often than not, love is a loosing game."
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Thanks, Malchik! :D
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Thanks, Malchik! :D
no problem it's storming out side and i got bored
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A thousand thank,malchikgej!!!!
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Nice thanks I think I am going to go to barns and noble tomorrow and get it.! I can't wait.
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Page 6" Milford Pennsylvania, CArlton was exposedto music at an early age thanks to her mother,Heidi a piano teacher, and father Ed a pilot and classic rock lover. After a family trip to Disneyland at age two, Carlton returned home and out of the blue. started playing the melody of "It's a small world" on the piano. Amazed by her daughters gift. her mom began exposing her to classical composers such as Erik Satie, Felix Mendelson and Claud Debussy. By age 8 Carlton had composed her first original piece.
Still as a teen Carlton rejeted the idea that music was her calling and focused her energies on ballet. At 14 when she was accepted into the School of American Ballet, Carlton left home and moved the The Big Apple. Three years later she'd become disenchanted.
"Let's talk about another oppressive industry," Carltonsays, looking back on her dancing days. " I learned a lot about being a people-pleaser and wanting attention from your teacher, wanting someone to pat you on the back and say,'good job'. I would never be happy in that environment. You're just a tool for somebody else. You're just a dancer interpreting somebody else's choreography to somebody else's music."
CArlton channeled the passion she'd felt for dancing into creating her music on her piano. "I felt this liberation that i wasnt feeling for dancing anymore. Dancing used to be that one outlet for me it wasn't anymore. I just don't like insinuations, like you have to be this way or your not acceptable. It's sick to me. That's probably something stephan and i have in common. We got into a lot of trouble in school at first. I'm so anti-institution. Seriously, I think insitutions are the death of humanity- I'll take it that far. Fascism,all the great wars, all the blood and death comes from that rigidity. No matter what i do i have to be an individual. I can never conform."
Now wanting to purseu music full time Carlton moved to NYC's Hells kitchen neighborhood and worked as a waitress while lining up singing gigs in local clubs. Record scouts eventually discovered her and signed her to A&M Interscope Records,through which she released 2002's platinum selling, Grammy nominated Be Not Nobody, produced by Ron Fair.
She soon started touring with the Goo
Goo Dolls and Third Eye Blind, and during this time she met her future beau, Jenkins. Initially, CArlton was unreceptive to his romantic overtures.
"I had been dating this musician, and I was like,'Im never going to be the girl standing on the side of the stage waiting for my dude" Carlton says. "It's just lame. So at that time I was like,'I'm never gonna date another rock-star.Then I met stephan. He had that typical rock-star vibe,that swagger,and he was very charismatic. Immediatley, I was like, Oh this guy gets whatever he wants. No way is he going to get me!"
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Ghis, i bought a second copy tonight if you want me to ship it to you let me know.
I also bought the book she mentioned so I thought i'd check it out. Has anyone else read it? The book is Sarah by JT LeRoy
-katia
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Ghis, i bought a second copy tonight if you want me to ship it to you let me know.
You rock K! <3
PM me how much I owe you for that. Thanks!!
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Ghis, i bought a second copy tonight if you want me to ship it to you let me know.
I also bought the book she mentioned so I thought i'd check it out. Has anyone else read it? The book is Sarah by JT LeRoy
-katia
yes, a long time ago(5 years ago I think) I read Sarah and a couple of years ago I read "Maldito Coração" (I think it's The Heart Is Deceitful Above All Things in english) which is really intense , I recommend both books.
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JT Leroy is a character made up by a woman author who had her sister in law (i think ) trick Hollywood into believing that JT Leroy was a real guy by going out dressed up as him. His story is really depressing, like he had a really troubled youth, etc. The woman who wrote the books and started the scandal got into some trouble when she was found out.
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yeah, stephan and vanessa were fairly obsessed with him/her for a spell.
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Who's on the cover of the magazine?
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Who's on the cover of the magazine?
Chris Brown, I think ...
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is it not like 3 different covers or something like that or is that just for if you get it on the internet?
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if you get it off the internet theres three cover choices but in the store there's only chris brown
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I don't really care for the article- if that transcription is the whole thing. It started off weird, the journalist seemed to be describing Vanessa's reception of him at first as sort of "eh, whatever" even a bit impolite, but then he tried to write it in as "she just doesn't care what anyone thinks of her" and then she said writing "you know I'd walk a thousand miles if I could just see you tonight" was an idiot thing to write and she'd never do that now (maybe naive and she could write better now, but I don't think it's a horrible sentiment)... what happened to the girl saying she'd pick the fool any day? I thought the whole meaning of that song is to not become jaded by love but to always be the fool because it's the more honest role to play? Idk. She just seems like she's become very jaded lately, and I don't blame her but I hope she doesn't stay in that mindset for too long!
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wow thanks for posting those segments of the article! :D
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Page 7:Carlton laughs coyly, her eyes twinkling a bit. "But he totally won me over in the end. What realy got me was that he's more of an intellectual than anything else." Carlton sasy that early in their relationship , Jenkins handed her a copy of J.T LeRoy's Sarah,and suggested that she read it. I was like, "He's existing on another plan,' and that was very attractive to me."
Jenkins became Carlton's creative partner,co producing her sophmore effort, 2005's critically acclaimed,though commercially unsuccessful, Harmonium
"Thank god for Harmonium" Carlton says. "It wasn't the biggest record in the world, but it was the foundation for this album. It was like a fork in the road and i could go one way or the other,and i chose the harder path.I've been able to really establish an aesthetic for myself, and i wasn't compromised. There's this quirky, classical pop thing going on with my music, and there's a real purity there that can instantly be tainted by any element that's being built to sell records. I hit a point where im like, 'I have no problem walking away from all of this. Unless this feels right, I'm not doing it.' And i found this clarity in myself and the kind of music i want to make.
Carlton's refusal to compromise her art prompted her to walk away from her deal at Interscope and search for a new label.
In 2006 during a meeting with Universal Music Group CEO and Chairman Doug Morris, Carlton was introduced to her future label head, Irving Lorinzo, aka Irv Gotti founder and head of The Ink Records, the label that oversaw the careers of platinum artists JaRule and Ashanti.At the time Gotti was finallizing a deal to house his imprint at Universal and attempting to rebuild his empire after being acquitted in December 2005 of federal money-laundering charges brought aginst him and his brother,Christopher. Gotti had just wrapped up a meeting with Mel Lewinter, Universal'a CEO, when Senior Vice President of A&R Jolene Cherry invited him into Morris's office to hear Carlton play.
"I saw Vanessa, and she looked familiar, but I didn't know her name," Gotti says at his Midtown Mahattan office. "I didn't put the pieces of the puzzle together. She got on the piano and played this record "Hands On Me," and i started going crazy,like, "You're the fucking shit! I've never heard anything so hot!" Gotti says with a laugh. "She was looking at me like 'Yo,this dude is fucking crazy.' So after I was done ranting and raving, she started playing "A Thousand Miles" and I was like 'Oh, shit!" cause that song is in the movie "White Chicks" so i was like,"Yo, you're the fucking white chick! People in the hood love your shit!' So I'm looking at Jolene Cherry, ans she's like, "Irv, why don't you sign her?" But I was like, "She don't wana be with no hip-hop gangsta-rap label..."
Gotti was wrong. Carlton called him expressing intrest ino signing with him, and the two arranged to meet for dinner. "I said, 'Yo before we even move forward with this, Google me cause there's a lot of shit with me. Get all the information and think," Gotti says."Then we went to dinner agian, and she said, 'I don't care what anyone says. The reaction you gave me at the meeting, I've been waiting for that my whole life. I believe in you, and I want you to guide my carrer." I signed her right there."
"I call him Ganesh," Carlton says of Gotti."In Buddhist mythology Ganesh is a warrior who never gives up, and he fights with with a smile and wins through positivity. I love being surrounded by that. Irv is my warrior.
Although it's an unexpected match both Gotti and Carlton are ecstatic with the in-studio chemestry they've created. "Everyone is curious," Gotti says, "They want to see if i've taken her the Nelly Furtado or Gwen Stefani route,but I didn't want to do that. Vanessa is very much and artist's artist.She's very into her art and how she wants to present it to people,so what i had to do is find the magic in what she does. I'm not into changing artists. I believe to sell the most record you have to give people the inner you."
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Thanks!
I love reading about the chemistry Irv and Vanessa have together. It really makes me hopeful of her.
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I went to Jewels to pick up a few things for a party for abirthday of a friend and I saw the mag. and I bought it!!! Its pretty awesome.
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Page 7 part 2: Heroes and thoeves dosen't include any hip-hop dramatics-no JaRule cameos,no "Hollaback Girl"-type songs no 8o8 drumms or simmering beats. Produced by Jenkins and Gotti, the album,above all else emphasizes Carlton's dexterous piano arrangements. It build on Carlton's artistic history and showcases her groth as a songwriter and vocalist without resorting to any trite formulas. The first single "Nolita fairytale," is a triumphant, feel-good song detailing the obstacles
Carlton has overcome to find happiness while the soul-stirring, brilliantly arranged ballad"Home" arguably the albums strongest cut,finds Carlton's Tori Amos-like vocals soaring over epic and lush piano keys with simple emphatic drums and faint violins adding to the son'g grand feel. The opening lines to "Home"-"Some people live in a house on a hill and wish they were someplace else/There's nobody there when the evening is still/Secrets with noone to tell"- eventually give away to a more ethereal deffinition of home,with Carlton returning to the refuge of her lover's arms:"For me its a glance and a smile on your face/The touch of your hands/An honest embrace/For where I lay it's you I keep/This changing world might fall asleep'With you all I know is... I'm coming home.
"I feel sad singing that song," CArlton says. She dosen't explain the cause of her melancholy, but she dosen't need to. The song was a collaborative effort with her former boyfriend-Carlton wrote and arranged the music while Jenkins penned the lyrics,and one can only assume that,at the time they considered each other home.
"When she made the record,home was Stephan," Gotti confirms. "But Vanessa's found her home in her music,and home can be anything for people:a boyfriend husband,child, mother...What home can represent is is what makes it such an enormous record. Tahat record is very special to me. In a perfect world, I would love for her to be at the Grammy Awards singing "Home" with her big whitefucking piano with a V emblem on it and fucking orchestre in the back!
Carlton sips her water and checks the time on her blackberry to make sure she's still on schedule for her flight. Our waiter drops by to check on us, and Carlton politely assures him everything is fine. "Writing this album, I read a lot of fairytales and I identifiedwith the metaphors in those stories. "Little Red Riding Hood" is a bit of a theme in this album, but I've changed the story around. The moral of the story is never stray from the beaten path or you'll be eaten by the wolf. And of course,in the past few years, I've realy strayed from the beaten path and reaped the rewards. Instead of being eaten by the wolf I've tamed the wolf,and it does what I say."
Thats all!
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Thanks, Malchik.
I hope Vanessa makes it big again ...
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Thanks, Malchik.
I hope Vanessa makes it big again ...
no problem :razz:
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Ok the last two pages of the article are better. haha
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Ok the last two pages of the article are better. haha
Agreed.
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"I would love for her to be at the Grammy Awards singing "Home" with her big white fucking piano with a V emblem on it and fucking orchestre in the back!"
-Irv Gotti
I'm losing more and more respect for him with each passing day and with each idiotic comment
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"you're the motherfucking shit!!!" is so inane. he sounds like a douche bag. if someone said that to me i'd be like, um thanks, but couldn't you pick some nicer words to describe me?
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I just think he is expressing himself, in the most raw way he can, and that is through curse words :-p. I don't have a problem with it, and I have a lot of admiration for his belief in V.
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i'm glad v has someone so influential to believe in her but i still think he presents himself like an idiot. coming out during her shows or before them and yelling his head off about her being the fucking shit. take a chill pill.
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though his encouraging words may lack in tact, or something more, at least it's a reassurance that he's behind V all the way. I love how he hoped for her to be at the grammys with the huge piano and the orchestra singing Home. that would be "the shit!" the way the article described Home was amazing. i cannot wait to hear the album version.
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this is great; thanks so much Malchik :D
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Or maybe she's covering the Sting song on HaT? haha
Eee, I hope she's not covering that song. I didn't like the original!
I hope if she does a cover song that it's a Stevie Nicks song and I always hoped it would be Edge of Seventeen... then awhile back someone said she covered it live. I'm not sure if that's true bc I never heard anything else about it. But I'd love to hear her version of that song. It reminds me of something V would sing if given the opportunity :)
Oh pretty please, Vanessa, don't do Edge of Seventeen. lol. It's too recognizable.
She should do a more lesser known song like After the Glitter Fades.
Back on topic now... thanks for posting parts of the article!
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thanks for the pages! :D
but I dont like Irv's 'words of encouragement' either really...Vanessa doesnt swear that much so why should he? Its not giving her a good name :/
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Oh pretty please, Vanessa, don't do Edge of Seventeen. lol. It's too recognizable.
She should do a more lesser known song like After the Glitter Fades.
I like After the Glitter Fades, but if she does a Stevie cover, I would love for her to do "Kind of Woman".
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i just baught the mag yesterday!! the pictures are sooo beautifull
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Oh pretty please, Vanessa, don't do Edge of Seventeen. lol. It's too recognizable.
She should do a more lesser known song like After the Glitter Fades.
I like After the Glitter Fades, but if she does a Stevie cover, I would love for her to do "Kind of Woman".
Ooh, I didn't think of that one! Vanessa could really add something to that song. She's good at that "haunting" sound.
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though his encouraging words may lack in tact, or something more, at least it's a reassurance that he's behind V all the way. I love how he hoped for her to be at the grammys with the huge piano and the orchestra singing Home. that would be "the shit!" the way the article described Home was amazing. i cannot wait to hear the album version.
same here! I cant wait to listen to Home on the cd!!
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Oh pretty please, Vanessa, don't do Edge of Seventeen. lol. It's too recognizable.
She should do a more lesser known song like After the Glitter Fades.
I like After the Glitter Fades, but if she does a Stevie cover, I would love for her to do "Kind of Woman".
Ooh, I didn't think of that one! Vanessa could really add something to that song. She's good at that "haunting" sound.
Her other cover songs were recognizable. They were like the bands big hits, so I don't think it'd be a problem for her to cover Edge of Seventeen. I think it's a cool song. Plus whatever happened about the person who said she did cover it already!!
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Oh pretty please, Vanessa, don't do Edge of Seventeen. lol. It's too recognizable.
She should do a more lesser known song like After the Glitter Fades.
I like After the Glitter Fades, but if she does a Stevie cover, I would love for her to do "Kind of Woman".
Ooh, I didn't think of that one! Vanessa could really add something to that song. She's good at that "haunting" sound.
Her other cover songs were recognizable. They were like the bands big hits, so I don't think it'd be a problem for her to cover Edge of Seventeen. I think it's a cool song. Plus whatever happened about the person who said she did cover it already!!
If that's true, I hope there's a bootleg out there somewhere! I'll admit it'd be interesting to hear what Edge would sound like with just piano. Tame it down a little bit, but still have it be an intense song.
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Do we have scans of this pages ?
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Here are the links to all of the 8 pgs.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/9594014@N07/1186604308/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/9594014@N07/1185752681/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/9594014@N07/1186615774/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/9594014@N07/1185763637/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/9594014@N07/1186626482/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/9594014@N07/1185774061/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/9594014@N07/1185780289/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/9594014@N07/1185786423/
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thank you! :)
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I've been waitng for HQ scans, THANKS SO MUCH!!!
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Thank you!!
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thank you sooo much :)
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who!! Thanks! =] X999
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All i can say is daaayumn
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I just uploaded this pic. Its the one form the contents page
http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=1188670473&size=o
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Thanks !
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I kind of think it looks like a perfume advertisement but i like it anyways.
"Vanessa Carlton...the fragrance." lol
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I kind of think it looks like a perfume advertisement but i like it anyways.
"Vanessa Carlton...the fragrance." lol
:lol: :lol: :lol:
you're so right! but its pretty =]
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I kind of think it looks like a perfume advertisement but i like it anyways.
"Vanessa Carlton...the fragrance." lol
That's hot.
You done anymore?! :D
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haha. i like the quote at the end
"Writing this album, I read a lot of German fairy tales, and I identified with the metaphors in those stories. 'Little Red Riding Hood' is a bit of a theme in this album, but I've changed the story around. The moral of that story is to never stray from the beaten path or you'll get eaten by a wolf. And, of course, in the past few years, I've really strayed from the beaten path and reaped the rewards. Instead of being eaten by the wolf, I've tamed the wolf, and it does what I say."
how cute
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so. it's not much but...
a little extra content from this article:
http://www.giantmag.com/2007/09/music/vanessacarlton0807/
i've been checking the site every so often because they sometimes post extra things. xD
And love this:
“Stevie Nicks is the one who brought me back into the fight. She was like, ‘No, you’re not going anywhere.’ Because I left [my label] without a deal. She said, ‘You’re one of the great singer/songwriters of your generation. You’re up for the fight.’ She changed my life because I looked at her and I was like, ‘Oh it can be done. You can be yourself and still have a career.’”
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haha, that's nice trinist. "Vanessa Carlton - The new fragrance of her."
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It'd be kind of neat if she did come out with a perfume that she felt identifies with the theme of her album. Mostly when celebrities come out with a scent you know it's just their way of trying to stash away more millions, but I think a Vanessa Carlton scent in tandem with her album would be kind of cool. I'm just curious what smell she would choose.
It'd be sort of synesthetic - listen to H&T while you wear the scent =P
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she looks hot
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Is there any way i can order the mag now.... id love to read the interview, i have all the pix from the website! Shes so beautiful! i love adding cool effects to the pix