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Vanessa Carlton => General Vanessa Carlton Discussion => Topic started by: nosticker on October 30, 2007, 02:23:49 pm

Title: Who played on Heroes and Thieves?
Post by: nosticker on October 30, 2007, 02:23:49 pm
Anyone know where I can find the info?

All I have is the NF promo single.....and even that lists credits.





Dan/NS
Title: Who played on Heroes and Thieves?
Post by: Unicorn on October 30, 2007, 04:11:07 pm
You know what I hated about the H&T booklet? The lack of writing credits and the list of musicians who played on the CD. Why did they leave that out? I always love reading those credits and I was so disappointed when I didn't find those in the booklet.
Title: Who played on Heroes and Thieves?
Post by: Martin. on October 30, 2007, 05:14:27 pm
Is it still on the website?
Title: Who played on Heroes and Thieves?
Post by: nosticker on October 31, 2007, 07:59:27 am
Quote from: "Hazy Eyes"
Is it still on the website?


If it is, I can't find it.  We know who produced, mixed, mastered, but not the actual musicians who played.



Dan/NS
Title: Who played on Heroes and Thieves?
Post by: amberbeads on October 31, 2007, 08:42:20 am
that's on there. Tony Fredianelli did some guitar, Linda Perry did some, Brad Hargreaves on some drums, backing vocals by Lee Moretti, etc etc.
Title: Who played on Heroes and Thieves?
Post by: nosticker on October 31, 2007, 08:46:48 am
Quote from: "amberbeads"
that's on there. Tony Fredianelli did some guitar, Linda Perry did some, Brad Hargreaves on some drums, backing vocals by Lee Moretti, etc etc.


Good deal.  Pardon my computer dummy-ness: Where is it on VC.com?



Dan/NS
Title: Who played on Heroes and Thieves?
Post by: clamicas on October 31, 2007, 10:25:49 am
Quote from: "nosticker"
Quote from: "amberbeads"
that's on there. Tony Fredianelli did some guitar, Linda Perry did some, Brad Hargreaves on some drums, backing vocals by Lee Moretti, etc etc.


Good deal.  Pardon my computer dummy-ness: Where is it on VC.com?



Dan/NS


on the main page illustration, next to the fire there (on the right) there is a "book of heroes and thieves"

click on that and on the next page you should see the credits
Title: Who played on Heroes and Thieves?
Post by: nosticker on October 31, 2007, 12:45:48 pm
Quote from: "clamicas"
Quote from: "nosticker"
Quote from: "amberbeads"
that's on there. Tony Fredianelli did some guitar, Linda Perry did some, Brad Hargreaves on some drums, backing vocals by Lee Moretti, etc etc.


Good deal.  Pardon my computer dummy-ness: Where is it on VC.com?



Dan/NS


on the main page illustration, next to the fire there (on the right) there is a "book of heroes and thieves"

click on that and on the next page you should see the credits


Ah......click on "credits".  I could have sworn I did that a few weeks back, and nothing happened, then I forgot about it.  It's definitely up now.

Thanks!

Dan/NS
Title: Who played on Heroes and Thieves?
Post by: All I Ask2003 on October 31, 2007, 01:46:03 pm
Ok, this is weird.  It shows the credits for all the songs except FLM.  I was surprised to see that there were songs that she wrote by herself.
Title: Who played on Heroes and Thieves?
Post by: nosticker on November 01, 2007, 08:14:48 am
Quote from: "All I Ask2003"
Ok, this is weird.  It shows the credits for all the songs except FLM.  I was surprised to see that there were songs that she wrote by herself.


Good catch!  And why is that a surprise?



Dan/NS
Title: Who played on Heroes and Thieves?
Post by: PutYourHandsOnMe101 on November 01, 2007, 05:27:53 pm
^ Yeah, I don't think it's surprising that V wrote some songs, My Best and More Than This specifically, on H&T solo either. She has also been more than capable of writing songs by herself and I think her cowriting is more to expand than out of necessity. She is after all a singer-songwriter and she has always been stubborn about making her music her way. And the fact that she wrote More Than This alone is even more proof, to me anyway, of her songwriting talents.
Title: Who played on Heroes and Thieves?
Post by: nosticker on November 02, 2007, 08:09:49 am
Quote from: "PutYourHandsOnMe101"
^ Yeah, I don't think it's surprising that V wrote some songs, My Best and More Than This specifically, on H&T solo either. She has also been more than capable of writing songs by herself and I think her cowriting is more to expand than out of necessity. She is after all a singer-songwriter and she has always been stubborn about making her music her way. And the fact that she wrote More Than This alone is even more proof, to me anyway, of her songwriting talents.


In terms of her being a viable singer-songwriter, look no further than BNN.
In terms of the music biz, there's money to be made in publishing, so don't be surprised if the people you see in credits are there for monetary rather than creative reasons.  I know of at least one guy who got screwed out of royalties on a song through a series of lawsuits.  Years went by, and it went from more people being listed as "songwriters" until his name vanished completely!  And this guy wrote the song mostly by himself.

In other words, there are ghost writers in this biz, and there are people who get completely f-ed out of any credit whatsoever.

Dan/NS