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Vanessa Carlton => General Vanessa Carlton Discussion => Topic started by: citybtb on November 15, 2007, 09:50:13 am

Title: skye steele amateur?
Post by: citybtb on November 15, 2007, 09:50:13 am
Dear Vanessa and any member of her management team who may read this post,

I recently saw Vanessa in SF at the Swedish American Music Hall and need to express some concerns I had with the show.

As usual, Vanessa's vocals and piano sounded great.    However, the violin sounded as though it was being played by an amateur and, as a consequence, detracted from the performance as a whole.  Judging by his performance in SF, Skye has a difficult time playing in tune. Rather than accentuating the emotional aspect of the music, it created a stuttering, screeching accent that opposed the sweetness and flow of the vocals and piano.   Vanessa, you are a Grammy nominated musician and you should be playing with people who play at your level rather then level of an amateur.  I love the idea of having a violin but they need to play professionally.  

 I was surprised at the show when someone shouted their admiration for Skye.  This person must have been a relative or a friend, because the people around me looked equally as shocked as I.   Perhaps this played into the reason why people were leaving early.  Perhaps Skye was having a bad day.  Regardless, those who applaud Skye's performance at the SF show clearly were not listening to the music objectively.

The music industry needs Vanessa to succeed to help cleanse it  from the mess brought on by the likes of Britney Spears.  Please Vanessa and anyone of influence who is reading this make the appropriate changes to facilitate Vanessa's success.
Title: skye steele amateur?
Post by: Martin. on November 15, 2007, 09:51:35 am
I think Skye is doing a great job out there.
Title: skye steele amateur?
Post by: garry_coombs on November 15, 2007, 10:44:47 am
I too also like what he is doing, I think he's doing good, from the performances I have seen of him he seems fine out there
Title: skye steele amateur?
Post by: portions.for.foxes on November 15, 2007, 11:09:11 am
He's better than the violinist she had with her before she went on tour at least.
Title: skye steele amateur?
Post by: B on November 15, 2007, 11:16:42 am
An interesting tidbit for this show is Vanessa didn't have her regular piano, so it is possible Skye was playing the regular notes which mesh well with V's regular piano, and because V was using the loner (most likely the venue piano) that may have accounted for some out-of-tuneness.

I personally think Skye has done a great job judging from the show I saw and the videos of other shows that I've seen.
Title: skye steele amateur?
Post by: nolitafairytale2007 on November 15, 2007, 02:51:05 pm
I have to completely DISAGREE! I think Skye has been doing an EXCELLENT job!! I saw him at the Ivar Theater show in L.A. and he was so talented and added so much to the show! The music was beautiful! And I also saw him at the end of the show and he was so nice!
Title: skye steele amateur?
Post by: ILoveHanson on November 15, 2007, 02:55:48 pm
i wasn't in san fran so i don't know how it sounded, but i was in LA and i thought the new songs sounded incredible with the violinist. i was moved to tears.
Title: skye steele amateur?
Post by: blueglove on November 15, 2007, 05:28:50 pm
Quote from: "portions.for.foxes"
He's better than the violinist she had with her before she went on tour at least.


ludvig?
Title: skye steele amateur?
Post by: portions.for.foxes on November 15, 2007, 06:54:01 pm
Quote from: "blueglove"
Quote from: "portions.for.foxes"
He's better than the violinist she had with her before she went on tour at least.


ludvig?


I dunno, it was the woman she had with her when she did the TV circuit.
Title: skye steele amateur?
Post by: eclv on November 15, 2007, 08:03:42 pm
Seriously? Wow. I guess everyone is entitled to their opinion but I went to the first 7 shows of this tour. Tonight is the 8th show of the tour which, obviously I am not at but Skye has been and is nothing but professional. Maybe you should check out his website (http://www.skyesteele.com/) read his bio and check out all the projects he's worked on.

Skye has added so much to this tour and compliments Vanessa really well. The SF show was only the 4th show of the tour and he was on fire! He has only gotten better and better as he was/is still learning and memorizing his part. Maybe he made a mistake, so did V, who cares, they are human and it was live!

My friends and I are super excited that Skye is on this tour, he's awesome.

BTW I edited your title because you spelled his last name wrong.
Title: skye steele amateur?
Post by: portions.for.foxes on November 15, 2007, 10:02:21 pm
He totally has a porn star name btw. Skye Steele? lol
Title: retort
Post by: citybtb on November 16, 2007, 11:49:21 am
I agree that the violin adds to her music, but his violin does not.  I will admit that I am judging his performance based on one show.  If that performance is the indication of how he sounds then I am concerned.  I did take your advice and I visited his website.  My opinion is reinforced.  Perhaps, listeners on this site do not know what a violin is really supposed to sound like.  People should listen to the performances objectively, not from the standpoint of a "nessaholic" who worships everything in association with Vanessa.  I think  you will then understand the purpose of my comments which is not to be a jerk, but to facilitate Vanessa's success.

I did not see her on the television shows with another violinist.  Can anyone tell me how to view the performances?  It would be interesting to compare.
Title: skye steele amateur?
Post by: ste_uel on November 16, 2007, 01:27:22 pm
one word : http://WWW.YOUTUBE.COM
Title: skye steele amateur?
Post by: portions.for.foxes on November 16, 2007, 02:07:58 pm
That's a URL, not a word. lol
Title: skye steele amateur?
Post by: Holly on November 16, 2007, 02:24:07 pm
I was at the SF show as well and thought he did great! He really complimented her!
Title: skye steele amateur?
Post by: Steveau on November 16, 2007, 02:31:57 pm
I liked him in L.A.
Title: skye steele amateur?
Post by: BWilli on November 16, 2007, 09:26:23 pm
seen him in AZ, NV and CO and I think he's doing well too....definately adds to it
Title: Re: retort
Post by: nicole on November 18, 2007, 03:26:56 pm
Quote from: "citybtb"
I agree that the violin adds to her music, but his violin does not.  I will admit that I am judging his performance based on one show.  If that performance is the indication of how he sounds then I am concerned.  I did take your advice and I visited his website.  My opinion is reinforced.  Perhaps, listeners on this site do not know what a violin is really supposed to sound like.  People should listen to the performances objectively, not from the standpoint of a "nessaholic" who worships everything in association with Vanessa.  I think  you will then understand the purpose of my comments which is not to be a jerk, but to facilitate Vanessa's success.

I did not see her on the television shows with another violinist.  Can anyone tell me how to view the performances?  It would be interesting to compare.


I'm glad you cleared that up... because I was thinking you were an arrogant jerk for a minute.  Seriously, everyone is entitled to their opinion and all... but sometimes its just best to keep it to yourself.  

We love Skye around here.  I can't deal with someone talking like that about my boy like that.  Just can't.
Title: Re: retort
Post by: Laura on November 18, 2007, 06:03:15 pm
Quote from: "nicole"

I'm glad you cleared that up... because I was thinking you were an arrogant jerk for a minute.  Seriously, everyone is entitled to their opinion and all... but sometimes its just best to keep it to yourself.

We love Skye around here.  I can't deal with someone talking like that about my boy like that.  Just can't.


This person shouldn't have to keep it to themself just because you & some others don't agree with him.

& I'm sorry, but what this person is saying is nothing compared to what people have said about my boys (bsb) & the other person I admire (Paula). This guy/girl is being critical at least he's not flat out Simon Cowell bashing him ya know?

Anyways, I think he's better than the girl violinist V had with her on one of the talk shows she performed at. Vanessa even gave her a look during her performance lol thats when you know someone isn't good.
Title: skye steele amateur?
Post by: Moogs21 on November 19, 2007, 02:03:02 pm
I'm not a violinist, but I am a music major, and I thought he was pretty good. I noticed him going low like once in the performance (Chicago), but that happens... seriously, he fixed it and it was all good. I thought I heard a questionable note or two, but I wasn't 100% it wasn't dissonance.
I think generally, there is a difference between classical (classical as in not just classical, but what we consider western european 'classical' music.) and 'pop' music today... If you judge them next to each other, it won't work.

I thought he really added to the performance.
Title: skye steele amateur?
Post by: Laura on November 21, 2007, 11:32:49 pm
^just have to say i love your sig lol
Title: Birchmere
Post by: KeyboardGuy90 on November 22, 2007, 03:20:53 pm
I'm not a violinist either... but I thought he did add a lot to the performance in VA. Maybe he was having a good day? Haha. Either way, the one at the Birchmere was his last performance.
Title: Re: retort
Post by: charmedguy18 on November 22, 2007, 08:54:19 pm
Quote from: "Laura"
Quote from: "nicole"

I'm glad you cleared that up... because I was thinking you were an arrogant jerk for a minute.  Seriously, everyone is entitled to their opinion and all... but sometimes its just best to keep it to yourself.

We love Skye around here.  I can't deal with someone talking like that about my boy like that.  Just can't.


This person shouldn't have to keep it to themself just because you & some others don't agree with him.

& I'm sorry, but what this person is saying is nothing compared to what people have said about my boys (bsb) & the other person I admire (Paula). This guy/girl is being critical at least he's not flat out Simon Cowell bashing him ya know?

Anyways, I think he's better than the girl violinist V had with her on one of the talk shows she performed at. Vanessa even gave her a look during her performance lol thats when you know someone isn't good.

I agree.
And wow, I want to see that video haha.