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Other Topics => Completely Off-Topic => Topic started by: Logikal X on June 02, 2003, 10:52:12 am
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smartass
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i'm smart in my head as well
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Pete you are silly.
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lol thats lame
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Yeah well sometimes you have to do things to make people think, unfortunately it seems no one is willing
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Yeah well sometimes you have to do things to make people think, unfortunately it seems no one is willing
Elaborate for the sake of my wanting to hear it.
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Its just obvious that there are loopholes in the way things are run here, i complain about something and it doesnt matter, i whined to a few mods about the "official sex thread" even though ive posted in it i dont think its appropriate..out of due respect for younger people, and you know damn well Mal that if your mom saw that thread she would flip....yet we can make a thread just looking to talk in general about non offending things and we get slammed for it. Its completely wrong in every manner....this is the OT section, if your gonna let people break one rule here then you cant really enforce every other rule to the T, you have to either make new rules or let rules slide
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you know damn well Mal that if your mom saw that thread she would flip....yet we can make a thread just looking to talk in general about non offending things and we get slammed for it.
You can say THAT again!
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my damn computer kicked me off.....and i had the perfect reply to this thread.....too late now though
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What was it Brian? (the perfect reply I mean)
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nah, i cant post it now.....it wont be as funny, and peeps would think i'm weird
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who cares Brian its not like we are "really" welcome here, mine as well speak your mind freely :mrgreen:
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Yeah sometimes I feel just like that where it doesn't matter what we think... so who cares what we post???
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fret not my Vanessa listening people.....for we shall have our official site back eventually
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I don't understand why everyone was willing and pleased about putting up with the flooding, post whoring, cussing, swearing, and overall "mean-ness" all over the VCMB, but the "sex thread" here in the "off topic" section causes such a problem? Why is NH.com forums held to a different standard?
At least if parents come here, and want to read about Vanessa Carlton ONLY and not parse through a bunch of crap, there is an entire section JUST for that. I don't know how i feel about the sex thread, but at least the subject says what it is... and if you don't wish to read it, you don't have to click on it. I'm concerned about it, but at the same time "Sex" is a very common word and you have to be at least 13 to be registered here.
You guys that seem to have jumped on the bandwagon together have a lot of valid points, but make sure you aren't continuing to add to them just to have more to complain about and that they are actually valid points.
-katia
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a lot of the mean-ness over there has toned down a bit i must say....
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Honestly, i'm going to let this thread, and the one Todd started go for a while to encourage decent discussion in a non-angry manner. If it get's out of hand tho, i'm going to step in.
-katia
I'm scared of katia stepping in, can we PLEASE keep it an adult like discussion???.... :wink:
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a lot of the mean-ness over there has toned down a bit i must say....
I disagree, i used to see something rude and/or insulting at least on a daily basis if i were to check in =)
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And then we shall dance fruitfully in the glowing fields of freedom!!!!!!
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a lot of the mean-ness over there has toned down a bit i must say....
I disagree, i used to see something rude and/or insulting at least on a daily basis if i were to check in =)
ahh yes....true, however there used to be many many many insulting threads....it's down to a minimum now
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Honestly, i'm going to let this thread, and the one Todd started go for a while to encourage decent discussion in a non-angry manner. If it get's out of hand tho, i'm going to step in.
-katia
I'm scared of katia stepping in, can we PLEASE keep it an adult like discussion???.... :wink:
yea, i removed that Todd, as someone else didn't agree with my desire to watch everyone work through this whole problem by using your thread *shrug*. Not sure who locked it tho as it wasn't updated.
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I locked it. Then updated it (you probably missed the update). If you are refering to the "I will not be held back." thread. I do agree with your desire :) I'll re-open it for discussion, let's hope people can be decent and reasonable about it.
*re-opens it*
-Kev
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a lot of the mean-ness over there has toned down a bit i must say....
I disagree, i used to see something rude and/or insulting at least on a daily basis if i were to check in =)
wait wait wait a second, we never said it was allowed or we like it, we have ONE mod, whereas you guys have ten mods, and all i do is sit here and feel insulted, i could have flamers over there calling me rude names but they didnt make me feel unwanted by the "real" members, over here its the people who i actually would like to communicate with who are squashing me....as for all the insulting there i dont think you would see as much as you do here , im pretty sure there is less considering i stayed there ALL day...also they have swear filters and only a few select people know how to sneak by them and here you may swear freely....And Mallory's mom wouldnt come here just to look into Vanessa, im sure she would go into the off topic section to see what her daughter is doing, im sure she cares more about her daughter than whats going on with Vanessa...and she is 17 years old so there goes the whole 13 thing, and who said you can just type in that you are older than 13? i know a few members here living in a lie who are 12.
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I locked it. Then updated it (you probably missed the update). If you are refering to the "I will not be held back." thread. I do agree with your desire :) I'll re-open it for discussion, let's hope people can be decent and reasonable about it.
*re-opens it*
-Kev
that was my hope... i think Todd had some good points as did Mal, and Pete over here. Just don't want to leave something unresolved.
and yea, i probably did miss the update =)
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Im sorry but im not going to be reasonable when i am referred to as a "retard from the o-board" , maybe you guys should just explain to your overreacting whiny members that we arent here forever and we arent here to cause problems
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infact, i didnt think most of us caused any probs.....with the exception of a few attention seekers.....
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Im sorry but im not going to be reasonable when i am referred to as a "retard from the o-board" , maybe you guys should just explain to your overreacting whiny members that we arent here forever and we arent here to cause problems
Let me just make note of the fact that there have been two posts (one by kev, one by me) that have said that you were not the vandals we were talking about.
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pete, i understand that mothers may come here, but they would check the VCMB too. If *I* was 17, and concerned about my mother looking at what i was doing, i wouldn't go there... everyone posted freely on the VCMB and i'm sure there were many threads where "sex" was mentioned at some point.
I think people need to make a decision. They need to either stick here, enjoy their time and make more of an effort to become one of the people here that likes to be here... or just not come around. Clearly, you are upset and emotional because you want to be here and talk to people, but sometimes they aren't accepting... well at the same time, all the people you want to accept and like you... you keep telling "i'm only here till the VCMB comes back" which is... fairly insulting.
pete/mal.. i like you both *very* much. I wish for you to stick around and not make this a temporary home
-katia
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Furthermore, the sex thread is FAR less "troubling" for a 17 year old to read than there is in the old world.
I can't even post half the crap I heard/read/was told in school when I was 17.
I think you're looking for a reason to stone the mods--and this was your best stone.
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Im sorry but im not going to be reasonable when i am referred to as a "retard from the o-board" , maybe you guys should just explain to your overreacting whiny members that we arent here forever and we arent here to cause problems
Let me just make note of the fact that there have been two posts (one by kev, one by me) that have said that you were not the vandals we were talking about.
first with my reply to you guys, i am an o boarder, i dont care if im not included in your "o boarder" group,. i am an o boarder and those are my friends, i feel for all of them that deal with being called retards
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well, would you feel bad if i told you i think 70% of the average population is a bunch of retards and when coming into contact with anyone need my first thought is "are they a retard or not?"
So literally, the few hundred users on the o-board are a much smaller number to consider "all retards" then my views most of the entire population :)
-katia
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pete, i understand that mothers may come here, but they would check the VCMB too. If *I* was 17, and concerned about my mother looking at what i was doing, i wouldn't go there... everyone posted freely on the VCMB and i'm sure there were many threads where "sex" was mentioned at some point.
I think people need to make a decision. They need to either stick here, enjoy their time and make more of an effort to become one of the people here that likes to be here... or just not come around. Clearly, you are upset and emotional because you want to be here and talk to people, but sometimes they aren't accepting... well at the same time, all the people you want to accept and like you... you keep telling "i'm only here till the VCMB comes back" which is... fairly insulting.
pete/mal.. i like you both *very* much. I wish for you to stick around and not make this a temporary home
-katia
im not really sure where sex is mentioned and i know it has been and complaining to Jon doesnt work as we already know. I said i was only here while the board was down because of all the people complaining, i was trying to get them to stop making me feel insulted.
And since when would anyone who is 17 be concerned with what their mother thought of where they are going?..the point is its the mother who is concerned, and im sure she wouldnt be the only one.
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well, would you feel bad if i told you i think 70% of the average population is a bunch of retards and when coming into contact with anyone need my first thought is "are they a retard or not?"
So literally, the few hundred users on the o-board are a much smaller number to consider "all retards" then my views most of the entire population :)
-katia
WHAT?!?!?!?! Come on Katia... you can't interrupt a perfectly good bashing to post nonesense that leaves me scratching my head!!! :wink:
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well, would you feel bad if i told you i think 70% of the average population is a bunch of retards and when coming into contact with anyone need my first thought is "are they a retard or not?"
So literally, the few hundred users on the o-board are a much smaller number to consider "all retards" then my views most of the entire population :)
-katia
The o boarders are "my" population...i fit into the generalization, if you said 70% of o boarders are retards i would still feel insulted, my guess is 1-2% and even so what gives people the right to just upright call someone a retard because they didnt suspect the rules would be so strict? saying percentages is a lot different than just stating a group
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And since when would anyone who is 17 be concerned with what their mother thought of where they are going?..the point is its the mother who is concerned, and im sure she wouldnt be the only one.
honestly, i could give a flying f*** what someones mother might think. I'm sure this stems from my relationship or lack there of with my 'mother' but i just don't care. That isn't an even close to important arguement in my book. I don't think the "Sex" thread is offensive to everyone until you actually go in it... and well, if the subject says exactly *what* it is so you can avoid it... then does it matter?
are you personally offended by the fact that people are discussing sex on the forums?
-katia
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And since when would anyone who is 17 be concerned with what their mother thought of where they are going?..the point is its the mother who is concerned, and im sure she wouldnt be the only one.
honestly, i could give a flying f*** what someones mother might think. I'm sure this stems from my relationship or lack there of with my 'mother' but i just don't care. That isn't an even close to important arguement in my book. I don't think the "Sex" thread is offensive to everyone until you actually go in it... and well, if the subject says exactly *what* it is so you can avoid it... then does it matter?
are you personally offended by the fact that people are discussing sex on the forums?
-katia
In all honesty im not exactly some sexual deviant so yes it does offend me, are you pleased that i told you, because i would have rather let people have their sex thread, id rather my chat threads dont get complained about
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The o boarders are "my" population...i fit into the generalization, if you said 70% of o boarders are retards i would still feel insulted, my guess is 1-2% and even so what gives people the right to just upright call someone a retard because they didnt suspect the rules would be so strict? saying percentages is a lot different than just stating a group
I was only quoting my thoughts on most of the population =) It's entirely possible that the VCMB or the NHMB has the 30% I speak of... not the 70%. =)
If you ask me, i think you're having a problem coping with change, and found things at the VCMB (as disorganized as they may be) comfortable. Everyone knew you, liked you, and therefore you enjoyed going there. There is no problem with this... i think if you wanted to stick around here, and didn't make your stay here feel so temporary, people might be more inclined to bond with you. I mean, i dig you, but that is my opinion. I am hesitant to get to know you knowing as soon as Fullerene get's their shit together you'll bail... that kinda sucks for me.
My 2 cents ;)
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i'm smart in my head as well
lmao
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I, TODD THOMAS, AM SORRY FOR REFERRING TO ALL "o-boarders" AS RETARDS.
Enough already?!
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are you personally offended by the fact that people are discussing sex on the forums?
-katia
In all honesty im not exactly some sexual deviant so yes it does offend me, are you pleased that i told you, because i would have rather let people have their sex thread, id rather my chat threads dont get complained about
two *completely* different things..
a common sex thread for several members to go discuss various things on a forum is one thing...
a chat thread for you to talk back and forth with someone where it could have just as easily been done in PM or AIM or some other form of communication is something different.
Chat thread ARE annoying. When something is started saying "Hey Pete!" and you respond with "hey there, how're you?" ... i mean c'mon, i have those conversations in AIM every day. Granted, since this thread seems to be you and I responding, we could just take it to PM or AIM, but i would like to see others respond if they so desire.
This is a forum, not a chat room...why don't people get the difference?
btw, if you are genuinely "offended" by the Sex thread, i'll take it up with the other mods when they're on.
-katia
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btw, if you are genuinely "offended" by the Sex thread, i'll take it up with the other mods when they're on.
-katia
I started the damned bloody thing (ooo, that sounded REALLY English) do I reserve the right to kill it?!?!
KILL THE MOFO!!! JUST KILL IT!!!
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personally, i think the PMs here suck.....
if your're gonna chat with someone in PMs, it means deleting like 100 e-mails later in the day.....i kinna hate that....
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like i state in the other thread i have done things and am willing to do things, yet i know ub's who have done less. Thats unwelcoming, im getting wise because i had a serious complaint and it got blown off, and worse it was blown off because im a "smartass"(haha real funny but you upset me and my friend both by saying that to her, you know who you are). The only reason i complained is because other threads have been shut down for FAR less.....i think youre modding system is unfair and insulting in itself..
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personally, i think the PMs here suck.....
if your're gonna chat with someone in PMs, it means deleting like 100 e-mails later in the day.....i kinna hate that....
AIM, Yahoo, IRC, ICQ, etc. etc.
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like i state in the other thread i have done things and am willing to do things, yet i know ub's who have done less. Thats unwelcoming, im getting wise because i had a serious complaint and it got blown off, and worse it was blown off because im a "smartass"(haha real funny but you upset me and my friend both by saying that to her, you know who you are). The only reason i complained is because other threads have been shut down for FAR less.....i think youre modding system is unfair and insulting in itself..
I disagree.
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err.....i'm at work......not allowed to have AIM, MSN and the like on my comp....somehow i get away with this though
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personally, i think the PMs here suck.....
if your're gonna chat with someone in PMs, it means deleting like 100 e-mails later in the day.....i kinna hate that....
So remove the option to have it send you an email... it's in your profile....................
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err.....i'm at work......not allowed to have AIM, MSN and the like on my comp....somehow i get away with this though
Not to be perceived as a smart ass (though I am), but tough cookies. Chat threads are totally annoying.
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if you said 70% of o boarders are retards i would still feel insulted, my guess is 1-2%
Ok, its officially time for me to get inolved.
First off... Pete, this is the root of the WHOLE problem. You dont see a problem with the bevior of 70% of the people on the o-board and I DO.
Anyone who stands on my side is gonna disagree with anyone who stands on YOUR side.
Now, this board is not like the o-board because it has a PRIVATE nature to it. The owners want things a specific way. It is not OUR place to demand change.
I had a problem with one of the rules, I voiced my complaint, I was overruled by the mods. At that point I had 2 options...
1) accept it and stay
2) leave
I choose the previous, obviously.
If you dont like the rules or the way the rules are enforced, then you can LEAVE HERE. Don't stay if you dont like it.
This is not a democracy, its an oligopoly... but its a benevolent one. You can leave any time you want.
Don't come here and pretend you own the place or that YOU get to make rules or even demand equality. Cause you dont get to make demands. This is not a democracy.
They the mods decide to create a red badge for all o-boarders who are visiting and make them wear it, or create a members only section then THATS THEIR RIGHT. STOP BITCHING.
They have NO OBLIGATION legally or ethically to deal with Mal's mothers snooping.
They have NO OBLIGATION to the 12 year olds who lie about their age
They have NO OBLIGATION to the 15 year olds who decide they are offended by the language or the thread content.
If you dont like it, leave.
They are protected by the freedom of speech to post whatever they want on this page (beyond the obvious such as porn and snuff etc).
If you have a problem with ANY of these rules as I have laid them out.... LEAVE.
Mods, if I have overstepped my bounds, let me know... but I feel what im saying here is valid and I dont like watching my friends get attacked for wanting ot enjoy the MB they created.
---Andrew
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are you personally offended by the fact that people are discussing sex on the forums?
-katia
In all honesty im not exactly some sexual deviant so yes it does offend me, are you pleased that i told you, because i would have rather let people have their sex thread, id rather my chat threads dont get complained about
two *completely* different things..
a common sex thread for several members to go discuss various things on a forum is one thing...
a chat thread for you to talk back and forth with someone where it could have just as easily been done in PM or AIM or some other form of communication is something different.
Chat thread ARE annoying. When something is started saying "Hey Pete!" and you respond with "hey there, how're you?" ... i mean c'mon, i have those conversations in AIM every day. Granted, since this thread seems to be you and I responding, we could just take it to PM or AIM, but i would like to see others respond if they so desire.
This is a forum, not a chat room...why don't people get the difference?
btw, if you are genuinely "offended" by the Sex thread, i'll take it up with the other mods when they're on.
-katia
On the other forum a "hey pete" thread would have been used by a few members. You dont even give the thread a chance to be used so obviously we are just going to make other threads and chat in them...its redundant on itself...and more so i have stated i am unable to use chat programs at work...also i get up and leave all day long to fix user issues at work which are unpredictable. the forum is easy to come back later and catch up on your conversation.
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so if a thread is titled "Sex" you have the right not to go into because it says "Sex" in the title..your words...which are fine
if a thread is titled "Hey Pete", you (Todd, or anyone else who hates those threads) have the right not to enter the thread as well.....kinna goes the same over at the o-board....you dont like the thread title, you dont go in...
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AIM, Yahoo, IRC, ICQ, etc. etc.
well for some people like me, who have to go to the library becuase their computer at home is broken.....They have AIM and those blocked...
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i think youre modding system is unfair and insulting in itself..
oi, we have a rule that says no chat threads, no where does it say "no sex threads"
What is unfair? The fact that on average you have more locked threads than others so for some reason the mods like you less? Really, i don't care whose thread it is i lock, or move... as long as it keeps riff raff and multiple threads, and so on down to a minimum so be it... it doesn't alter my opinion or perception of anyone.
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i think youre modding system is unfair and insulting in itself..
I'll reiterate again... THEY HAVE NO RESPONSIBILITY to justify their system to you.
Go away if you dont like the rules.
If their system drives people away, then the MB will cease to be fun. But apparently it was working for the last 6 months or so, so maybe the problem is with the NEW people and not with the system?
---Andrew
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No one has accepted my apology. :cry:
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if you said 70% of o boarders are retards i would still feel insulted, my guess is 1-2%
Ok, its officially time for me to get inolved.
First off... Pete, this is the root of the WHOLE problem. You dont see a problem with the bevior of 70% of the people on the o-board and I DO.
Anyone who stands on my side is gonna disagree with anyone who stands on YOUR side.
Now, this board is not like the o-board because it has a PRIVATE nature to it. The owners want things a specific way. It is not OUR place to demand change.
I had a problem with one of the rules, I voiced my complaint, I was overruled by the mods. At that point I had 2 options...
1) accept it and stay
2) leave
I choose the previous, obviously.
If you dont like the rules or the way the rules are enforced, then you can LEAVE HERE. Don't stay if you dont like it.
This is not a democracy, its an oligopoly... but its a benevolent one. You can leave any time you want.
Don't come here and pretend you own the place or that YOU get to make rules or even demand equality. Cause you dont get to make demands. This is not a democracy.
They the mods decide to create a red badge for all o-boarders who are visiting and make them wear it, or create a members only section then THATS THEIR RIGHT. STOP BITCHING.
They have NO OBLIGATION legally or ethically to deal with Mal's mothers snooping.
They have NO OBLIGATION to the 12 year olds who lie about their age
They have NO OBLIGATION to the 15 year olds who decide they are offended by the language or the thread content.
If you dont like it, leave.
They are protected by the freedom of speech to post whatever they want on this page (beyond the obvious such as porn and snuff etc).
If you have a problem with ANY of these rules as I have laid them out.... LEAVE.
Mods, if I have overstepped my bounds, let me know... but I feel what im saying here is valid and I dont like watching my friends get attacked for wanting ot enjoy the MB they created.
---Andrew
You dont seem to understand Andrew that im not asking for a change, im asking for them to do things the way the rules themselves state they will, for one thread that breaks rules to be let go and another to get locked is absurd, I have said i am leaving, not because i dont like people here because i like everyone, even all the people who whine and irritate the hell out of me, i just dont feel like dealing with it here when i dont even have to over there, i dont own this board or that board..but im a fan, maybe not the biggest fan but i feel like a circus monkey here instead of a fan of one singer..its overrated
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On the other forum a "hey pete" thread would have been used by a few members. You dont even give the thread a chance to be used so obviously we are just going to make other threads and chat in them...its redundant on itself...and more so i have stated i am unable to use chat programs at work...also i get up and leave all day long to fix user issues at work which are unpredictable. the forum is easy to come back later and catch up on your conversation.
You are more than welcome to create a SINGLE thread to chat in day after day after day. Just dont make a new one every time. Make a single thread that says "O-boarder Chat" and reuse it. No one will complain EVER.
---Andrew
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so if a thread is titled "Sex" you have the right not to go into because it says "Sex" in the title..your words...which are fine
if a thread is titled "Hey Pete", you (Todd, or anyone else who hates those threads) have the right not to enter the thread as well.....kinna goes the same over at the o-board....you dont like the thread title, you dont go in...
what is the point though? Seriously... what is the advantage of posting back and forth in a thread, vs just PMing the person? Why is "chat threads" which is another term for "let's post back and forth so i can get my post count up real high" so much better?
I just don't get it... really i don't. I would love for someone to be able to explain it to me.
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I'm lost to as how a 'sex thread' broke the given rules. The only explanation that I've heard is that it breaks rule 9, which deals with foul language--in other words, you're twisting the rules to fit your argument.
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so if a thread is titled "Sex" you have the right not to go into because it says "Sex" in the title..your words...which are fine
if a thread is titled "Hey Pete", you (Todd, or anyone else who hates those threads) have the right not to enter the thread as well.....kinna goes the same over at the o-board....you dont like the thread title, you dont go in...
THATS WHAT IM SAYING!!! :mrgreen:
and im sorry but rule 9 partains to the respect of watching your mouth for youngsters, however the whole thread is something i wouldnt want my kid reading, even at the age of 16 i wouldnt want my kid knowing about all sorts of sexual positions and fantasies of people on the internet,
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You dont seem to understand Andrew that im not asking for a change, im asking for them to do things the way the rules themselves state they will, for one thread that breaks rules to be let go and another to get locked is absurd, I have said i am leaving, not because i dont like people here because i like everyone, even all the people who whine and irritate the hell out of me, i just dont feel like dealing with it here when i dont even have to over there, i dont own this board or that board..but im a fan, maybe not the biggest fan but i feel like a circus monkey here instead of a fan of one singer..its overrated
Then Pete, you are exercising the greatest power you have. The power to boycot something you dont like. Your absence will state your opinion more clearly than your presence.
Im sad to see you go, but if you dont like it, then dont participate. It's that simple.
---Andrew
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well this thread is basically a chat thread now...but not a fun chat...oh no its a debate thread....
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so if a thread is titled "Sex" you have the right not to go into because it says "Sex" in the title..your words...which are fine
if a thread is titled "Hey Pete", you (Todd, or anyone else who hates those threads) have the right not to enter the thread as well.....kinna goes the same over at the o-board....you dont like the thread title, you dont go in...
what is the point though? Seriously... what is the advantage of posting back and forth in a thread, vs just PMing the person? Why is "chat threads" which is another term for "let's post back and forth so i can get my post count up real high" so much better?
I just don't get it... really i don't. I would love for someone to be able to explain it to me.
it's not about the post count...atleast not for me.....sure i make a "special thread" for it over there.....i guess its bout talkin' to your friends.....i just would prefer not to have to delete a crapload of e-mails stating that i have received a PM....i know I've received a PM once that little Pop-Up shows up.....i understand the e-mail is good if you're not online talking, but if your chatting, delete all that is a hassle...takes some time.....
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THATS WHAT IM SAYING!!! :mrgreen:
and im sorry but rule 9 partains to the respect of watching your mouth for youngsters, however the whole thread is something i wouldnt want my kid reading, even at the age of 16 i wouldnt want my kid knowing about all sorts of sexual positions and fantasies of people on the internet,
But do you see Pete... they can break their own rules. Thats the beauty of it. It's THEIR MB. Be thankful that they let us post ANYTHING.
Are you paying for their webhosting? Did you pay to develop the source code? Did you pay to register to domain?
To quote smiling Jack:
"I'd rather you just said thank you, then went one your way"
---Andrew
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AIM, Yahoo, IRC, ICQ, etc. etc.
well for some people like me, who have to go to the library becuase their computer at home is broken.....They have AIM and those blocked...
You can always PM to your lil heart's content.
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and im sorry but rule 9 partains to the respect of watching your mouth for youngsters, however the whole thread is something i wouldnt want my kid reading, even at the age of 16 i wouldnt want my kid knowing about all sorts of sexual positions and fantasies of people on the internet,
That is a total stretch of Rule 9 if I've ever seen one. BTW, does anyone else we're arguing over these rules like it's the friggin Constitution?!
Rule 9 pertains to language. That simple. You can NOT say "oh but it deals with any issue that might hamper children".
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AIM, Yahoo, IRC, ICQ, etc. etc.
well for some people like me, who have to go to the library becuase their computer at home is broken.....They have AIM and those blocked...
You can always PM to your lil heart's content.
already explained why the PMs suck....
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it's not about the post count...atleast not for me.....sure i make a "special thread" for it over there.....i guess its bout talkin' to your friends.....i just would prefer not to have to delete a crapload of e-mails stating that i have received a PM....i know I've received a PM once that little Pop-Up shows up.....i understand the e-mail is good if you're not online talking, but if your chatting, delete all that is a hassle...takes some time.....
To reiterate what katia said, you can turn off the e-mail feature so it wont send you an e-mail when you get a PM.
---Andrew
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it's not about the post count...atleast not for me.....sure i make a "special thread" for it over there.....i guess its bout talkin' to your friends.....i just would prefer not to have to delete a crapload of e-mails stating that i have received a PM....i know I've received a PM once that little Pop-Up shows up.....i understand the e-mail is good if you're not online talking, but if your chatting, delete all that is a hassle...takes some time.....
To reiterate what katia said, you can turn off the e-mail feature so it wont send you an e-mail when you get a PM.
---Andrew
damn....i almost had a valid point there.....oh well
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To quote smiling Jack:
"I'd rather you just said thank you, then went on your way"
---Andrew
AMEN!!
I will now post in the voice of Jack Nicholson in "A Few Good Men"
"I have neither the inclination nor the time, to debate with someone that lives under the blanket of their board, but question the manner in which they provide it."
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so if a thread is titled "Sex" you have the right not to go into because it says "Sex" in the title..your words...which are fine
if a thread is titled "Hey Pete", you (Todd, or anyone else who hates those threads) have the right not to enter the thread as well.....kinna goes the same over at the o-board....you dont like the thread title, you dont go in...
what is the point though? Seriously... what is the advantage of posting back and forth in a thread, vs just PMing the person? Why is "chat threads" which is another term for "let's post back and forth so i can get my post count up real high" so much better?
I just don't get it... really i don't. I would love for someone to be able to explain it to me.
because in the hey pete thread it wouldnt be two people, it would be anyone who wanted to join the conversation, you locking a hey pete thread means we will just make up a thread like this thread i just made so we can all take therefore you guys create more work for yourselves and more useless chat threads....now this thread is rather serious so its not just a silly chat thread, but that was my intention..i cant say hey Brian, or talk to me here because it gets locked, so i needed to make a point, im sorry i did it the smartass way but i really didnt have any other ideas at the time
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and im sorry but rule 9 partains to the respect of watching your mouth for youngsters, however the whole thread is something i wouldnt want my kid reading, even at the age of 16 i wouldnt want my kid knowing about all sorts of sexual positions and fantasies of people on the internet,
That is a total stretch of Rule 9 if I've ever seen one. BTW, does anyone else we're arguing over these rules like it's the friggin Constitution?!
Rule 9 pertains to language. That simple. You can NOT say "oh but it deals with any issue that might hamper children".
GSU, all i do is watch you whine all day about people, i feel like im arguing with an arrogant child whenever you speak, and i hope that insults you as much as you insult me every time you post here, at least my posts are in an attempt to be friendly...its not a stretch of the rule, sexual content is language and unnacceptable language in my opinion
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so i was watching Kate & Leopold the other day. BTW, if you haven't seen this movie i highly recommend it. It's well, a chick flick, but one of the best things about it is watching how honorable of an individual Leopold is.
Kate's job is basically in marketing and she does research to find out what people want, and then gives it to them. She rates a movie they're doing a review of in the 60%'s saying the main actress isn't likable or something, and the director flips his lid saying that he thinks she is very likable and that they're sucking the life out of american cinema.
I think i'm beginning to realize that whatever i do, i can't please everyone. I guess if i can please 60, 70 or even 80% ... then i'll be a step ahead. I can only reiterate that we don't shun anyone based on where they're from, i think most of the population is stupid, and i challenge people to prove me wrong.
!!!!! Cheerio !!!!!
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So far NONE of the people complaining have given me 1 half way decent complaint other than to basically say "I feel unloved, wah".
Personally, I find this sad.
To quote one of my favorite bands:
"your station has been assigned your rebellion will be confined
tired doctrines killing just as many as he leaders they decry
their backs all well patted
for a job well done without the shackles"
---Andrew
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and im sorry but rule 9 partains to the respect of watching your mouth for youngsters, however the whole thread is something i wouldnt want my kid reading, even at the age of 16 i wouldnt want my kid knowing about all sorts of sexual positions and fantasies of people on the internet,
That is a total stretch of Rule 9 if I've ever seen one. BTW, does anyone else we're arguing over these rules like it's the friggin Constitution?!
Rule 9 pertains to language. That simple. You can NOT say "oh but it deals with any issue that might hamper children".
GSU, all i do is watch you whine all day about people, i feel like im arguing with an arrogant child whenever you speak, and i hope that insults you as much as you insult me every time you post here, at least my posts are in an attempt to be friendly...its not a stretch of the rule, sexual content is launguage and unnacceptable language imho
I can't argue that. I really can't.
The fact is, I've never said anything bad about you--you have taken all the namecalling on by yourself. I can't do anything about that--I've even apologized for the fact that I said it--still, to no avail.
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because in the hey pete thread it wouldnt be two people, it would be anyone who wanted to join the conversation, you locking a hey pete thread means we will just make up a thread like this thread i just made so we can all take therefore you guys create more work for yourselves and more useless chat threads....now this thread is rather serious so its not just a silly chat thread, but that was my intention..i cant say hey Brian, or talk to me here because it gets locked, so i needed to make a point, im sorry i did it the smartass way but i really didnt have any other ideas at the time
Again, to reiterate a central point. If you used the SAME THREAD every day for your silly chats, NO ONE WOULD COMPLAIN. no one would mind. Everyone would be happy.
Its the REDUNDANT threads the make people mad.
---Andrew
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I can please all of the people some of the time, some of the people all of the time, but I can never please all of the people all the time.
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GSU, all i do is watch you whine all day about people, i feel like im arguing with an arrogant child whenever you speak, and i hope that insults you as much as you insult me every time you post here, at least my posts are in an attempt to be friendly...its not a stretch of the rule, sexual content is language and unnacceptable language in my opinion
go back and look at why this didn't end up a silly chat thread and why it ended up not being locked. Trust me, when i first saw it i was just going to lock it, then i figured you have problems, Todd has problems... Let's work them out and thus kept it open for a discussion. Just because you didn't title it "Hey Pete" doesn't mean it wasn't on the chopping board for lockage.
I don't read every thread, i don't have that kind of time... but if i did, i assure you my locking patterns would be consistent. There are 10 mods, we can't all perceive threads the same way upon investigating them. I thought about locking this, but at the same time... people are trying to accomodate you believe it or not and NOT enforce all the rules and lock things on you... because they like you. *sigh*
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because in the hey pete thread it wouldnt be two people, it would be anyone who wanted to join the conversation, you locking a hey pete thread means we will just make up a thread like this thread i just made so we can all take therefore you guys create more work for yourselves and more useless chat threads....now this thread is rather serious so its not just a silly chat thread, but that was my intention..i cant say hey Brian, or talk to me here because it gets locked, so i needed to make a point, im sorry i did it the smartass way but i really didnt have any other ideas at the time
Again, to reiterate a central point. If you used the SAME THREAD every day for your silly chats, NO ONE WOULD COMPLAIN. no one would mind. Everyone would be happy.
Its the REDUNDANT threads the make people mad.
---Andrew
I cant just make one chat thread if every chat thread i make gets locked now can i Andrew?
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I can please all of the people some of the time, some of the people all of the time, but I can never please all of the people all the time.
Then again you dont have to just spout random directionless insults because you feel annoyed, like i said, your sex thread annoyed me, and i didnt complain openly until now, and i only complained because you are beginning to make me sick
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I cant just make one chat thread if every chat thread i make gets locked now can i Andrew?
Not all of them get locked. Personally, I would think it would be neat to have one big thread for all of your discussions with Si and BDub etc... since, unlike the oboard, they aren't all on one screen.
Notice how we STRIVE to keep like topics in 1 thread? Its really a central goal here.
---Andrew
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GSU, all i do is watch you whine all day about people, i feel like im arguing with an arrogant child whenever you speak, and i hope that insults you as much as you insult me every time you post here, at least my posts are in an attempt to be friendly...its not a stretch of the rule, sexual content is language and unnacceptable language in my opinion
go back and look at why this didn't end up a silly chat thread and why it ended up not being locked. Trust me, when i first saw it i was just going to lock it, then i figured you have problems, Todd has problems... Let's work them out and thus kept it open for a discussion. Just because you didn't title it "Hey Pete" doesn't mean it wasn't on the chopping board for lockage.
I don't read every thread, i don't have that kind of time... but if i did, i assure you my locking patterns would be consistent. There are 10 mods, we can't all perceive threads the same way upon investigating them. I thought about locking this, but at the same time... people are trying to accomodate you believe it or not and NOT enforce all the rules and lock things on you... because they like you. *sigh*
honestly you probably should have just locked it, i mean why not right?
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I mean this in all seriousness, it's not an insult. I can't really understand a word of what you're saying because your English--well, it leaves something to be desired. I realize that you're probably using your "relaxed, message board" English where punctuation is of no importance, but I can't really respond when I don't understand a word of what you're saying.
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honestly you probably should have just locked it, i mean why not right?
if it was going to be a chat thread, sure... why not. It didn't turn out that way, hence not locked. oy.
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I cant just make one chat thread if every chat thread i make gets locked now can i Andrew?
Not all of them get locked. Personally, I would think it would be neat to have one big thread for all of your discussions with Si and BDub etc... since, unlike the oboard, they aren't all on one screen.
Notice how we STRIVE to keep like topics in 1 thread? Its really a central goal here.
---Andrew
Like i said, i made more topics because others were locked and im not going to hunt for the unlocked ones because they would probably get locked eventually too...whats the point if they fall off the page when we leave anyways, This is the OT section, and really none of the threads here should be that signifigant....in fact i could go and find every single one that isnt significant and i bet it would represent at least 50%...so why 2% of threads get locked, because some people are liked more than others...i may like people differently or even dislike some people, but im not here to prove that, and i certainly wouldnt buy a domain and dedicate it to a singer and try to make it an official fanclub if certain fans were going to be treated depending on how much the owners like them
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I mean this in all seriousness, it's not an insult. I can't really understand a word of what you're saying because your English--well, it leaves something to be desired. I realize that you're probably using your "relaxed, message board" English where punctuation is of no importance, but I can't really respond when I don't understand a word of what you're saying.
Actually, im, from, America, .
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Like i said, i made more topics because others were locked and im not going to hunt for the unlocked ones because they would probably get locked eventually too...whats the point if they fall off the page when we leave anyways, This is the OT section, and really none of the threads here should be that signifigant....in fact i could go and find every single one that isnt significant and i bet it would represent at least 50%...so why 2% of threads get locked, because some people are liked more than others...i may like people differently or even dislike some people, but im not here to prove that, and i certainly wouldnt buy a domain and dedicate it to a singer and try to make it an official fanclub if certain fans were going to be treated depending on how much the owners like them
ahh yes....finally someone points out the this is the OT section....
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Like i said, i made more topics because others were locked and im not going to hunt for the unlocked ones because they would probably get locked eventually too...whats the point if they fall off the page when we leave anyways, This is the OT section, and really none of the threads here should be that signifigant....in fact i could go and find every single one that isnt significant and i bet it would represent at least 50%...so why 2% of threads get locked, because some people are liked more than others...i may like people differently or even dislike some people, but im not here to prove that, and i certainly wouldnt buy a domain and dedicate it to a singer and try to make it an official fanclub if certain fans were going to be treated depending on how much the owners like them
Pete, here is what was nice before. WE could have several threads that would stay on the first page for WEEKS. We didn't have to hunt them down. And frankly, there is no reason for it NOT to be like that.
Off topic does not mean insignificant. It means off topic.
Don't do things the rules say you shouldn't do. Follow the letter and not the spirit, and all will be well.
Hell Pete, im an asshole, but ive NEVER had a thread locked! NEVER!
---Andrew
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ahh yes, but how quickly we forgot what Andrew already pointed out.
people pay for the domain, pay for the server, the bandwidth, the database space usage... these things are not free unfortunately.
the worthless chat threads that go no where take up database space and CPU cycles that *I* have to worry about. Does it really matter all taht much? no, not really in the grand scheme of thigns. Does this board function better than the VCMB did? yea, it's up mroe... it works better... it doesn't give a shitload of errors.
the people that pay and dedicate their time to creating something, made rules. One of the rules was, we don't wish to see chat threads. When someone creates one, it get's locked. If another one is created, it's locked too. It makes one wonder, exactly how many threads have to get locked before someone get's the picture? Yes, you have to create more because the others are locked!
Does everyone want to start paying per month to have something? If you do, then we can all have somewhat of a say. Chat threads annoy me, i made the rules (and they were agreed upon by all Mods)... if you have a problem with that, then you can either disobey the rules, or leave.
I hate to say leave because really, i would like for people to say, but i refuse to try to please all 100% of the population any longer. If *I* am paying to have this domain up, and spending countless hours of my personal time maintaining the server, web space, database, backing thigns up, doing upgrades and *I* get annoyed by seeing chat threads? well guess what, no more chat threads!
sorry, that is the truth. take it or leave it.
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I mean this in all seriousness, it's not an insult. I can't really understand a word of what you're saying because your English--well, it leaves something to be desired. I realize that you're probably using your "relaxed, message board" English where punctuation is of no importance, but I can't really respond when I don't understand a word of what you're saying.
Actually, im, from, America, .
ROFL.
Pete..... "your" is possesive, "YOU'RE" is the contraction.
I think he meant it to have a comma after English and not --
Which is kinda funny, cuse the '--' indicates hes using "messageboard english"
--Andrew
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I am saying this and leaving these two threads...
Yea some people think that you should have sex with the person you marry ONLY. I think that is stupid....
I'm not as much a christian now as I was when my parents tried to mold my mind and make me believe wha they believed, I think that being gay and or lesbian is wrong(although I do enjoy lesbians) it contradicts life.
I think that if you have sex with someone it should be someone you love...
I think waiting till marrage is nice for your husband/wife but a large percentage of people do not wait.
The debates of sex could go on and on, I could type for years I really don't want to do that.
I read about people getting into arguements about this thread, for the most part of wha I read I think this thread is alright.
As Pete said he wouldn't want his kid looking at this...Well I would have to agree with that...
My sister is almost 12 years old and the thought of her going on the internet and looking at something like this would not make me to happy.
I want to protect my sister like a big brother would. I cannot control if she has sex before marrige or not. I wouldn't like her to look at things like this though.
I do agree with Pete in the fact that this thread should be locked or deleted, because some of this stuff is too much, due to the fact that younger people really do come on here and read this.
And you said that people could ignore this but I found it good at first, and then it went a little crazy...
Don't anyone be offended by wha I said, I am on both sides...
Daniel
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ahh yes, but how quickly we forgot what Andrew already pointed out.
people pay for the domain, pay for the server, the bandwidth, the database space usage... these things are not free unfortunately.
the worthless chat threads that go no where take up database space and CPU cycles that *I* have to worry about. Does it really matter all taht much? no, not really in the grand scheme of thigns. Does this board function better than the VCMB did? yea, it's up mroe... it works better... it doesn't give a shitload of errors.
the people that pay and dedicate their time to creating something, made rules. One of the rules was, we don't wish to see chat threads. When someone creates one, it get's locked. If another one is created, it's locked too. It makes one wonder, exactly how many threads have to get locked before someone get's the picture? Yes, you have to create more because the others are locked!
Does everyone want to start paying per month to have something? If you do, then we can all have somewhat of a say. Chat threads annoy me, i made the rules (and they were agreed upon by all Mods)... if you have a problem with that, then you can either disobey the rules, or leave.
I hate to say leave because really, i would like for people to say, but i refuse to try to please all 100% of the population any longer. If *I* am paying to have this domain up, and spending countless hours of my personal time maintaining the server, web space, database, backing thigns up, doing upgrades and *I* get annoyed by seeing chat threads? well guess what, no more chat threads!
sorry, that is the truth. take it or leave it.
I would pay, i would help maintain, but its yours, have your way, im gone, bye
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Thank you daniel!
---Andrew
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well that blows
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Like i said, i made more topics because others were locked and im not going to hunt for the unlocked ones because they would probably get locked eventually too...whats the point if they fall off the page when we leave anyways, This is the OT section, and really none of the threads here should be that signifigant....in fact i could go and find every single one that isnt significant and i bet it would represent at least 50%...so why 2% of threads get locked, because some people are liked more than others...i may like people differently or even dislike some people, but im not here to prove that, and i certainly wouldnt buy a domain and dedicate it to a singer and try to make it an official fanclub if certain fans were going to be treated depending on how much the owners like them
Pete, here is what was nice before. WE could have several threads that would stay on the first page for WEEKS. We didn't have to hunt them down. And frankly, there is no reason for it NOT to be like that.
Off topic does not mean insignificant. It means off topic.
Don't do things the rules say you shouldn't do. Follow the letter and not the spirit, and all will be well.
Hell Pete, im an asshole, but ive NEVER had a thread locked! NEVER!
---Andrew
i forgot about this, quickly i must state that i have had ONE thread locked and in direct coordination with Katia because i was just trying to have fun with her, which is basically what i think life is all about, people having fun...so my one thread to your none isnt really a big deal to me, and im not an asshole but i think off topic means ANYTHING not on topic with Vanessa, meaning if the thread is about "me", then its off topic, anyways its all rather silly if you ask me....gotta go, peace everyone
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yeah...what pete said......later pete....have a jolly one......
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good points said by all. Daniel i appreciate that you contributed... Andrew, it's always a pleasure. Todd.. glad we got some of these things worked out. Kev222, my man! i missed having you around.
Let's wrap things up, if anyone has any points that haven't been articulated... i'll go ahead and lock this shortly.
I think it was a good debate, some great points made overall... very impressive.
-kat
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yeah....but where did it lead to.......the thread getting locked anywho?
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yeah....but where did it lead to.......the thread getting locked anywho?
Well, we had a nice little grammar lesson thrown in there at the end :wink:
---Andrew
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does everyone know where everyone stands now? yea pretty much...
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they taught me well at college didnt they? :lol:
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"Son, we live in a message board that has rules. And those rules have to be ruled with mods with lock buttons. Who's going to do it? You?! You Logical X? They have a greater responsibility than you can possibly fathom. You weep for the old board, and you curse the new board. You have that luxury. You have the luxury of not knowing what they know. That the o-board's death, while tragic, probably saved time. And the new boards existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you saved time. You don't want the truth because deep down inside in places you don't talk about at the old board, you want the new board, you NEED the new board. We use words like "rules, chat threads, and locked". We use these words as the backbone of six months creating something. You use them as a punchline. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man that rises and types on the very message board they provide, but questions the manner in which they provide it. I would rather you had just said "Thank you", and went on your way. Otherwise I suggest you go to the old board and become a mod. Either way, I don't give a damn what you think you are entitled to."
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anywho.....i'm outta here as well......have a jolly one all
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"Son, we live in a message board that has rules. And those rules have to be ruled with mods with lock buttons. Who's going to do it? You Logical X? They have a greater responsibility than you can possibly fathom. You weep for the old board, and you curse the new board. You have that luxury. You have the luxury of not knowing what they know. That the o-board's death, while tragic, probably saved time. And the new boards existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you saved time. You don't want the truth becomes deep down inside in places you don't talk about at the old board, you want the new board, you NEED the new board. We use words like "rules, chat threads, and locked". We use these words as the backbone of six months creating something. You use them as a punchline. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man that rises and sleeps on the very message board they provide, but questions the manner in which they provide it. I would rather you had just said "Thank you", and went on your way. Otherwise I suggest you go to the old board and become a mod. Either way, I don't give a damn what you think you are entitled to."
ROFL
---Andrew
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Well a harty debate doesn't do anyone harm.
I'm glad we can learn from this debate....And although I said I was going to leave this thread alone, I didn't.
Oh well, most all of you in this thread are really good people, and I am glad I got to meet you, I will now say.
PEACE(no that don't mean I'm leaving)
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Well the funny thing about this whole thread:
The three people that "weren't" retards from the VCMB are gone and the relentless "pointless thread" posters will stay here to continue on with pissin' ya off.
And to quote Alanis Morisette (since that seems to be a popular thing nowadays:)
"Isn't it ironic, don't ya think?"
And lastly, in the words of Pete and Brian, ... "I'm out, have a jolly one."
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LOL.
What makes you think that some of the people on here dont consider you three retards? :twisted:
---Andrew
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i have to come back for a moment and tell you
Im retarted, its retarted, arghhh :mrgreen:
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i'm gonna need you to retard your anger
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Gooooooz fraba. Goooooooooz fraba.
---Andrew