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Title: What's the difference between Carnival and Dark Carnival?
Post by: JazzyManda on June 07, 2003, 09:02:13 am
is there a difference?

just wondrin, doesn't seem like there is lyric wise..



Amanda
Title: What's the difference between Carnival and Dark Carnival?
Post by: Vultch on June 07, 2003, 09:08:21 am
lyrically theres a big differance.
look again.
Title: What's the difference between Carnival and Dark Carnival?
Post by: badsrx7 on June 07, 2003, 09:44:00 am
one is dark
one is light



;)

lyrics defffinitely
Title: What's the difference between Carnival and Dark Carnival?
Post by: KULPDOGG on June 07, 2003, 10:02:28 am
im confused about this...
why did you guys call it "dark carnival"??
is that its real name?
or is it just 'Carnival' ...but...like a different version(you know, like "devide and conquer&ordinary day")
did vanessa change carnival's name to dark carnival? or did you guys just make it up??
also with the lyrics...
i thought you only saw like a clip of it?
how can you determine that the rest of the words are from the orginal carnival??
mabie the rest of the song is different too....
....you dont know.....

well..... :?
Title: What's the difference between Carnival and Dark Carnival?
Post by: TSE on June 07, 2003, 10:14:15 am
Quote from: "KULPDOGG"
im confused about this...
why did you guys call it "dark carnival"??
is that its real name?
or is it just 'Carnival' ...but...like a different version(you know, like "devide and conquer&ordinary day")
did vanessa change carnival's name to dark carnival? or did you guys just make it up??
also with the lyrics...
i thought you only saw like a clip of it?
how can you determine that the rest of the words are from the orginal carnival??
mabie the rest of the song is different too....
....you dont know.....

well..... :?


"Cause that's what it's called, and we have the song

You know where to go for it Andrew.
Title: What's the difference between Carnival and Dark Carnival?
Post by: KULPDOGG on June 07, 2003, 10:17:43 am
oh, yeah i only had that video clip downloaded...

lol,, i really should've looked 'there' first.....
Title: What's the difference between Carnival and Dark Carnival?
Post by: TSE on June 07, 2003, 10:20:38 am
yep.

You should've. :D
Title: What's the difference between Carnival and Dark Carnival?
Post by: KULPDOGG on June 07, 2003, 10:42:03 am
Is this an error in the lyrics thread???
"Tell me it won't hurt
Tell me it won't hurt
Tell me it won't hurt
Tell me it won't
Tell me it won't
And she runs on her own
And your heart beat for you know
Not a sweet alibi
When you get your bloody dose
In the still of the night
It is there you'll feel it most
In this dark carnival
Where the end is close
"


and i think it should be
"Tell me it won't hurt
Tell me it won't hurt
Tell me it won't hurt
Tell me it won't
Tell me it won't
And she runs on her own
And you'll hurt before you know
Not a sweet alibi
When you get your bloody dose
In the still of the night
It is there you'll feel it most
In this dark carnival
Where the end is close
"


`cause i just listened to the song like loud and clear and i since thats what she says through the whole song, why would it change there??
i dont know, i just think thats what she says... :?
Title: What's the difference between Carnival and Dark Carnival?
Post by: sayyouwould on June 08, 2003, 07:11:34 am
dark carnival scares me!! lol
Title: What's the difference between Carnival and Dark Carnival?
Post by: Vultch on June 08, 2003, 07:17:00 am
Quote from: "KULPDOGG"
Is this an error in the lyrics thread???
`cause i just listened to the song like loud and clear and i since thats what she says through the whole song, why would it change there??
i dont know, i just think thats what she says... :?

damnit! yeh your right. I meant to replace that line all the way through, missed that one tho. Fixed here now... now gotta fix the other 2 places I keep complete lyrics.
Title: What's the difference between Carnival and Dark Carnival?
Post by: jessicaweiser on June 08, 2003, 04:29:01 pm
Kinda not digging the new lyrics... dunno. I thought the original was ok, not for release, but a good demo song...

jw
Title: What's the difference between Carnival and Dark Carnival?
Post by: LimeTwister on June 08, 2003, 06:22:09 pm
Quote from: "jessicaweiser"
Kinda not digging the new lyrics... dunno. I thought the original was ok, not for release, but a good demo song...

jw


i love the new lyrics, wasn't too excited when i first heard them, but reading them changed my mind.
Title: What's the difference between Carnival and Dark Carnival?
Post by: KULPDOGG on June 08, 2003, 06:28:55 pm
i like both lyrics...a lot, i say it should've been on BNN
Title: What's the difference between Carnival and Dark Carnival?
Post by: Will on June 08, 2003, 08:17:22 pm
Ok... nitpick.

Dark Carnival and Carnival actually had a name change. Lyrics have changed. She changed the name. Same thing with Interlude and ATM. You can think of this as the song being worked on, and the other forms weren't quite finished.

However,

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or is it just 'Carnival' ...but...like a different version(you know, like "devide and conquer&ordinary day")


She never changed the name of that song. It has always been "Ordinary Day." The fans have appended the "(Divide & Conquer)" to the name to distinguish that version from the final album version. So, you would properly refer to the songs as "Ordinary Day (Divide & Conquer [Version])" and "Ordinary Day" respectivly.

Sorry, it's a pet peeve of mine.
Title: ...........
Post by: Alecs on June 09, 2003, 12:15:41 pm
...Oh the drama...

*runs and hides* :roll:
Title: Eh?
Post by: countvongroovy on June 10, 2003, 07:35:52 pm
Quote from: "KULPDOGG"
oh, yeah i only had that video clip downloaded...

lol,, i really should've looked 'there' first.....


What's this "there" ya'll are talking about?  A secret hidden storage of VC songs online?  Can anyone explain, please?

-=-DeeJay-=-
Title: Re: Eh?
Post by: Vultch on June 10, 2003, 08:50:30 pm
Quote from: "countvongroovy"
What's this "there" ya'll are talking about?  A secret hidden storage of VC songs online?  Can anyone explain, please?

Secret storage? Not that I know of. Try KaZaA
Title: so...
Post by: countvongroovy on June 10, 2003, 08:57:22 pm
Then what did you mean by "there"?

-=-DeeJay-=-
Title: Re: so...
Post by: Vultch on June 10, 2003, 09:00:46 pm
Quote from: "countvongroovy"
Then what did you mean by "there"?

Oh you must mean there (http://www.kazaa.com/us/index.php). Or perhaps you mean here (http://www.vanessacarlton.com/bboard/forumname/).
Here... there... they're everywhere.
Title: Re: so...
Post by: LimeTwister on June 11, 2003, 06:35:31 am
Quote from: "blackvulture"
Quote from: "countvongroovy"
Then what did you mean by "there"?

Oh you must mean there (http://www.kazaa.com/us/index.php). Or perhaps you mean here (http://www.vanessacarlton.com/bboard/forumname/).
Here... there... they're everywhere.


kazaa works wonders.
Title: To answer the question simply...
Post by: zurielshimon on June 11, 2003, 04:33:17 pm
To answer the question simply (as no-one has seemed to do very succinctly):

"Carnival" is a demo song that Vanessa wrote and recorded that didn't make the cut on 'Be not Nobody'.  Look for it on my hard drive. ;)

"Dark Carnival" is a reworking of that song with a somewhat more gory lyric for the video game 'Spy Hunter 2'.  Look for it this September.