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Other Topics => Completely Off-Topic => Topic started by: LimeTwister on June 25, 2003, 06:31:41 pm
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ok, so i am trying to delete this "limeshop" that went with "LimeWire" but i deleted the folder before i uninstalled it (i know i should have learned my lesson)...So no it says i have both BullGuard and Limeshop, and i can't get them off the uninstal list...
also Windows ME is supose to have a restore option...but everytime i try to restore to a previous day it doesn't work, anyone know why?
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JOEYYYYYY!
Arghhhh!
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sounds too complicated for me SORRY!
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not even the windows me stuff? :cry:
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I heard ME sucks! sorry kid!
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If you want to get rid of the entry in the uninstall list I think PowerToys can do that amongst other things. Worth looking into. But yeah .. you really shouldn't just delete program folders like that ; )
As far as the restore option is concerned. Is it set up to create restore points every day? I think because that uses up a lot of disk space, it defaults to creating restore points when you install new software.
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ok, so i am trying to delete this "limeshop" that went with "LimeWire" but i deleted the folder before i uninstalled it (i know i should have learned my lesson)...So no it says i have both BullGuard and Limeshop, and i can't get them off the uninstal list...
also Windows ME is supose to have a restore option...but everytime i try to restore to a previous day it doesn't work, anyone know why?
Ok... I'm no Windows expert. I avoid it as much as possible. However, most installers have a remove option. So, you can run the installer and use the remove option. Something else that I think would work if the last suggestion failed is to reinstall it, then remove it through "Add/Remove Programs" control panel.
It's a pain in the butt. And the only OS that is clean with installs and uninstalls is Mac OS. In the Mac OS, you would be trashing the app by just dragging it to the trash. Unless it had an extention or two, but you just drag those out of /System Folder/Extensions. And in Mac OS X, you don't have to worry about it at all.
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*Laura want's to kill her computer also* I've had this crappy computer for way too long. Me want's a flat screen computer & DSL =)
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Ok, the uninstall aint gonna work cause its gonna error out telling you it can't find the files.
What you have to do is actually edit the install Log, (which you can't do without special software) then remove the entries for those files in the registry (which may not be named properly and may be impossible to find) and win.ini files (which may completely screwup your windows boot).
So really, your best bet is to REINSTALL the software and then do the uninstall. If that doesn't work, then you either live with, get a professional to fix it, it or reformat the HD.
---Andrew
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lol....i say we send him blindly into the registry to delete all traces of "limeshop" hehehe :mrgreen:
it would work but we wouldnt wanna risk that, do what andrew said, reinstall and uninstall again...and it that really doesnt work...just leave the folder empty and let windows think its installed....if the folder is deleted there really isnt a big waste of space....only issue is error messages if you get them.
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Why the hell do apps on Windows have to integrate themselves with the system? And why the hell should programs be throwing stuff in a central database (the registry)?
My Macness is showing again, but I really do like the way it has been done on the Mac OS. In the older versions of Mac OS, programs had two forks: the data fork and the resource fork. You can guess what they did. In the resource fork, you could store stuff like you would files. Everything the program did was in the resource fork(it also allowed easy modding of programs, and hence a large amount of amusment in my earlier years). Preferences could be stored either in the data fork, or (more commonly) in a preference file in /System Folder/Preferences. No funky hidden extensions to the system, unless the program is providing a system service. In that case, an extension file would be placed in /System Folder/Extensions.
Wanna uninstall? Trash the app! If it used any extensions (few programs actually did), trash those. And trash the prefs if you wanted, but it's not that important. They will do you no harm.
Mac OS X is a bit different and definitely more complex now, but the uninstall procedures are pretty much the same because almost no apps need to mod the system anymore. Trash the file. Done. The programs are in Mach-O binary format. What is really cool about that is the package scheme. The application is basically a folder that the system treats like a whole program. It has all the things the program needs to run inside.
Ehh... I'm just bitter because I'm in charge of cleaning up a really badly cluttered and virus infested computer lab at my school. I finally said screw it and we are wiping all the machines and ghosting them. Oh well, the old tech who is responsible for leaving these machines unsecured is gone, so I won't have to worry about this as much as time goes on. We have been writing some Nazi security policies for the suckas lately........ :D
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As far as the restore option is concerned. Is it set up to create restore points every day? I think because that uses up a lot of disk space, it defaults to creating restore points when you install new software.
Yea it puts check points everyday, and i have tried 5 dates, and they all haven't worked.
and William I wanted a mac...but my dad didn't let me (although i bought my computer :? oh well.)
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i dont even feel like getting into a macintosh/IBM debate with you again William, but you know i hate those friggin things
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i dont even feel like getting into a macintosh/IBM debate with you again William, but you know i hate those friggin things
Ehh... I just don't like it when people diss the Mac without knowing much about it. Windows certainly has it's place. And it shines in "enterprise." There is so much cool stuff I can do with Active Directory and 2k, even if it is a bitch and a half to get up.
My personal computer of choice? Definitely a Mac. Do I want Joe Luser Student using them at my school? Hell no! First off, they would be destroyed in a second. Happens to our PCs anyway. But they are cheap to rebuild. Also, people use Windows at home. People with prior experience on Windows and aren't all that technically inclined go "WTF?!" Also, Active Directory is much less of a pain than NetInfo for the moment. And Macintosh Manager/At Ease For Workgroups is a steaming pile of insecure crap. I know. I spent my Jr. High days figuring out new ways to crack the so called "security" on the computers.
It's all about the right tool for the right job. Would you buy a 15k with Solaris for a school? Ehh... reliability would be awesome. But it would also put you out of a lot of money.
To tie up a rant that has gone nowhere, this isn't an IBM/Macintosh debate (eh, IBM made the processor, a IBM PPC 740, on the machine I'm typing this from, a Mac). Both platforms have their uses. And when people blindly say "Macs suck!" because they don't act like their Windows machines, it is annoying. But some of the Linux zealots annoy me more......
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lol well your previous statement kinda just said ibm/windows sucks...i think the reality of it is every thing new technological crap allll basically sucks...we arent reliable, why would machines we build be haha, ah well screwit :mrgreen:
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joey i know ur havin probs with yours but.... mine has to suck much much more. last night this happened twice..... i would be on my computer and it was start to make this loud high pitched beeeep noise... now what the hell is that????? and it kicks me off aim about every 5 minutes. And for the last two days, none of the pictures have been showing up on THIS website... *throws computer out the window*
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Macs Suck.
:wink:
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Why the hell do apps on Windows have to integrate themselves with the system? And why the hell should programs be throwing stuff in a central database (the registry)?
The integration allows a NUMBER of very useful features. For example, it allows you to centralize security and setttings. Which means you dont have a million little tiny databases all over your PC for each app to store its configuration info into with each one having its own security. It makes it easy for me, as a developer, to store small bits of info on the machine.
More importantly, its one of the central driving forces to the COM object model in windows.
For those of you unfamilar with the com object model, it lets you establish an "object" on the operating system. More often than not, the object is a set of coded methods and properties that let you do things. for example, I have a MSSQL object on my machine. Because that object is registered in the registry, I can send commands to that object from ANY OTHER program on my machine. So if I built a new app, I could have it integrate with microsoft SQL server without having to know any of MSSQLs source code beyond their object model.
I agee, MACS have their place. But it is NOT in comcercial business and application development. It's in CAD, Graphic Design, Architecture, animation etc. It's called a niche market for a reason.
---Andrew
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Why the hell do apps on Windows have to integrate themselves with the system? And why the hell should programs be throwing stuff in a central database (the registry)?
The integration allows a NUMBER of very useful features. For example, it allows you to centralize security and setttings. Which means you dont have a million little tiny databases all over your PC for each app to store its configuration info into with each one having its own security. It makes it easy for me, as a developer, to store small bits of info on the machine.
More importantly, its one of the central driving forces to the COM object model in windows.
For those of you unfamilar with the com object model, it lets you establish an "object" on the operating system. More often than not, the object is a set of coded methods and properties that let you do things. for example, I have a MSSQL object on my machine. Because that object is registered in the registry, I can send commands to that object from ANY OTHER program on my machine. So if I built a new app, I could have it integrate with microsoft SQL server without having to know any of MSSQLs source code beyond their object model.
I agee, MACS have their place. But it is NOT in comcercial business and application development. It's in CAD, Graphic Design, Architecture, animation etc. It's called a niche market for a reason.
---Andrew
I know how fun it is to shove the good point of IBM's in Williams face Andrew, but hasnt it been done enough with no results? :wink:
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I know how fun it is to shove the good point of IBM's in Williams face Andrew, but hasnt it been done enough with no results? :wink:
Yes. But maybe he genuinly doesn't' know about the COM object model in Windows. If not, then he really wouldn't understand the use of the registry.
Dammit pete! We have to stop agreeing so much lately. This is becoming a bad habit! :wink:
---Andrew
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Yeah... I know, there are good uses for the registry. I'm just saying, for Joe Sixpack, it's a PITA.
And I think there are better ways to do things....
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Yeah... I know, there are good uses for the registry. I'm just saying, for Joe Sixpack, it's a PITA.
And I think there are better ways to do things....
Sweetie. Don't you think if there were a better system then COM and the registry then all of those high paid harvard grads working for MS would have figured it out by now?
---Andrew
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Yeah... I know, there are good uses for the registry. I'm just saying, for Joe Sixpack, it's a PITA.
And I think there are better ways to do things....
Sweetie. Don't you think if there were a better system then COM and the registry then all of those high paid harvard grads working for MS would have figured it out by now?
---Andrew
You callin him sweetie!!! and i thought we were getting along so well! hahahaha
there is something better than COM, iits called..........
beer!!! wohooo
sorry ill get a grip on myself
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Yeah... I know, there are good uses for the registry. I'm just saying, for Joe Sixpack, it's a PITA.
And I think there are better ways to do things....
Sweetie. Don't you think if there were a better system then COM and the registry then all of those high paid harvard grads working for MS would have figured it out by now?
---Andrew
Honestly, I have seen stuff handled better with other OS's. Ask your local Amiga, BeOS or <insert other techically awesome but dead OS> zealot for more on that, although I may not necessarily share their opinions.
And you know what, I don't care about the credentials at MS. You can be the best programmer in the world, and management borks everything over. There are more than a few disgruntled ex-MS employees in this town.....