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Other Topics => Other Musicians => Topic started by: justaboy23 on June 30, 2003, 07:27:08 am
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ok kids now it's really disapointing that no one has mentioned the best rock n roll band in the history of the world let's hear some talk about the fab four.....favorite song anyone?
shine on
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Imagine is my favorite song, but i don't really like the beatles....at all.
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how could you even type that.. go into the kitchen right now ... get a sharp knife and cut your fingers off... then go and listen to abbey road to pay for your blasphemy :twisted:
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how could you even type that.. go into the kitchen right now ... get a sharp knife and cut your fingers off... then go and listen to abbey road to pay for your blasphemy :twisted:
um I'll pass... :lol:
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i was just kidding... hey you like who you like right... and imagine is a great song... but if you listen to john's stuff from the beatles years it's miles ahead of his solo work
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um, hello, who doesn't like Eleanor Rigby? come on people! "yesterday" is probably my favorite song by them though.
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the beatles rule!!!!!
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i mean i may actually cry over the pitiful response the greatest band in the history of popular music is getting :cry:
doesn't anyone believe in love anymore?
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Lucy in the sky with diamonds is my favorite! I'm a big fan of the songs that they did with Ravi Shankar. Anyway, I just watched yellow submarine this week and I was bugging out!
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You know what amazes me about the beatles? They had VERY little technical musical talent. None of them were good musicians. They were good song writers, and they were pioneers. But none of them were talented musicians.
I'd go so far as to say that Ringo was a BAD drummer.
My favorite beatles songs have always been Elanor Rigby, Rocky Racoon and Blackbird.
---Andrew
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I don't know. Their songs were popular. I believe being popular and being great are two different qualities. Although there are great popular songs.
Alot of people can relate to their songs. I like yesterday also. But that is probably because it is sort of sad.
tylor
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:evil: i think i'm stuck in hell....what..the beatles weren't talented musicians? shame on you it takes a great musician to be a great songwriter... listen to those tunes man those weren't written by amateurs and nobody i repeat nobody can play slide guitar like mr. george harrison.. and nevermind that whole he can play the sitar too... i don't even feel i need to defend the brilliant bass lines of paul mccartney..and oh yeah he also played the guitar and piano.. and so could john.. and ringo lays it down smooth and steady.. no need for flash and crash when it's in the friggin pocket... wow i just realized i typed all of that in about ten seconds.. i was really upset..sorry :wink: i just feel the need to defend the geniuses without whom modern music wouldn't even exist in it's know form...and yeah that totally includes our beloved vanessa carlton.. who has said of her next album that she just wants it to sound like sgt pepper.. i mean come on..... ALL OF YOU NESSAHOLICS OUT THERE...QUICK..RUN,DON'T WALK TO YOUR NEAREST RECORD STORE (or just go through your parents music or something) AND GET A HOLD OF A BEATLES RECORD..ANY BEATLES RECORD...AND IF YOU CAN LISTEN TO ABBEY ROAD AND NOT FEEL SOMETHING CHECK YOUR PULSE YOU'RE PROBABLY DEAD...ooops.. :wink: sorry about that you guys didn't mean to go all postal....in short..too late... listen to the beatles..that is all
shine on
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well on a local oldies radio station they have like "brunch with the beatles" on Sundays...So I will save my money...and I am still living...and i didn't feel anything...Well I take that back I felt tired.
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Limey Joe, you are right on. I can not stand the Beatles. I've not heard one song that I've liked. *shudders*
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shame on you it takes a great musician to be a great songwriter...
that is not true.....there are alot of great song writers who are not musicians.....They know the instrument well enough to write music....but they don't perform all the time...
i just feel the need to defend the geniuses without whom modern music wouldn't even exist in it's know form...
And that we are finally trying to get out of.......
Sorry man just my opinion.....but maybe vanessa will improve business for herself by writing very popular songs like the beatles.....then after that write good music...I don't know...I'm going to wait to hear the next album is like and judge as we go......i'm her fan for the long run because I believe in her.......I have a feeling if she lives up to her potential she is going to be awesome.
tylor
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:evil: i think i'm stuck in hell....what..the beatles weren't talented musicians? shame on you it takes a great musician to be a great songwriter... listen to those tunes man those weren't written by amateurs and nobody i repeat nobody can play slide guitar like mr. george harrison.. and nevermind that whole he can play the sitar too... i don't even feel i need to defend the brilliant bass lines of paul mccartney..and oh yeah he also played the guitar and piano.. and so could john.. and ringo lays it down smooth and steady.. no need for flash and crash when it's in the friggin pocket... wow i just realized i typed all of that in about ten seconds.. i was really upset..sorry :wink: i just feel the need to defend the geniuses without whom modern music wouldn't even exist in it's know form...and yeah that totally includes our beloved vanessa carlton.. who has said of her next album that she just wants it to sound like sgt pepper.. i mean come on..... ALL OF YOU NESSAHOLICS OUT THERE...QUICK..RUN,DON'T WALK TO YOUR NEAREST RECORD STORE (or just go through your parents music or something) AND GET A HOLD OF A BEATLES RECORD..ANY BEATLES RECORD...AND IF YOU CAN LISTEN TO ABBEY ROAD AND NOT FEEL SOMETHING CHECK YOUR PULSE YOU'RE PROBABLY DEAD...ooops.. :wink: sorry about that you guys didn't mean to go all postal....in short..too late... listen to the beatles..that is all
shine on
I might also remind you that Mr. Harrison was a decent sitar player as well.
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i weep for the future of rock and roll
i'm out
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So because someone doesn't like the Beatles, you weep for the future of rock and roll? Opinions on bands are just that...opinions. We're allowed to have them. I'm sure there were plenty of people in the 60s who didn't like the Beatles either. I know my parents were two of those people. I understand that they touched lives or whatever, but not mine. I don't like their music. Never have, never will. But that's just my opinion.
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hey seriously my beatle rantings are all totally tongue in cheek.. and i sure didn't mean to upset you if you look up in the link you'll find i say you like what you like.. and i believe that so it's cool ..don't dig the beatles.. i do and they have touched my life.. it's all about whatever makes you move you know....keep the peace with ya and don't let the man get ya down
shine on and love
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It's all good ;)
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The Beatles were an unprecedented phenomenon in musical history. They changed the music business forever. Hell, they changed society. No one has taken rock and roll farther than them. During their time, they were the popular equivalent of someone like NSYNC while being on THE cutting edge, and we all know that this will NEVER happen again. The biz is no longer the same. Pop stars could not care less about being innovative.
During their time(and they took months rather than years to make an album):
They were the first to demand to write all their own songs and did.
Very Well, I might add.
They were the first to use feedback on a pop song(I Feel Fine).
They were the first to use classical instruments in pop.
They were the first to close mike drums in the studio.
They were the first to play stadiums.
Rather than have this post be hundreds of pages, I'll stop there.
As far as what you like, that is an opinion, and there are lots of great musicians being mentioned here. But The Beatles mark on both music and history is undeniable. 98% of what is out today will be forgotten,as sad as that is. There will always be great songs, but rock/pop as a creative medium is dead. Part of it is digital technology that is available to anyone, and the nails in the coffin include the public's willingness to embrace anything shoved down their throats.
There's no problem if the Beatles' music doesn't do anything for you. It's all opinion. Hell, it's 40 years old! But to say that they are overrated or no big deal is an admission that one doesn't know their musical history.
Peace, Dan
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to you sir...i say amen...
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HELP! is my favorite song
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I'm listening to the Revolver album right now. It is so genius; especially George's song "love you to" The fusion with the Indian raga is amazing.
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well i must say i like lennon's solo work better, but i do not really like the beatles. give me the stones anyday over the beatles!
:-)
and last year we watched "yellow submarine", and it was very special.
kelley
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Wow ok old thread but... Being the HUGE Beatles fan that I am, I'd have to say that I can't pic ONE favorite Beatles song. I can't decide between Yesterday, Penny Lane, and Eleanor Rigby. For some reason I don't really like the song Yellow Submarine, but I love the movie. :heart:
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There's no point arguing against the beatles you just can't win!
I prefer listening to the less publicised stuff as some of that gets worn out plus i prefer lennon to macartney most of the time
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The White Album ("The Beatles") is the top of the crop as far as I'm concerned. It's the greatest single release of different styles spanning all of popular music, including heavy metal, a style that had really only that year become a factor.
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and nobody i repeat nobody can play slide guitar like mr. george harrison..
Eric Sardinas is orders of magnitude better than Harrison, technically. And there are many more.
I agree with what andrew said. As far as technical musicianship goes, they were strictly average at best.
It annoys me when people confuse the artistic greatness that they percieve in players or their band for technical greatness. You can write songs that a lot of people appreciate and still be a bad or just average musician. Kurt Cobain being a prime example.
In many ways it's easier to be a great artist than a great technical musician. The true greats are both at the same time, IMHO.
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Yes, it's just like the difference between getting all the notes right and making the audience feel it. Listen to Led Zeppelin and all the notes Jimmy Page plain blows in a hard-and-fast solo (and you can't tell me they're all supposed to be like that) but then consider him as an artist who can really get people in a groove (regardless of the fact that he's been making tons of money doing it as well).
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Yes, it's just like the difference between getting all the notes right and making the audience feel it. Listen to Led Zeppelin and all the notes Jimmy Page plain blows in a hard-and-fast solo (and you can't tell me they're all supposed to be like that) but then consider him as an artist who can really get people in a groove (regardless of the fact that he's been making tons of money doing it as well).
Exactly!
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Yes, it's just like the difference between getting all the notes right and making the audience feel it. Listen to Led Zeppelin and all the notes Jimmy Page plain blows in a hard-and-fast solo (and you can't tell me they're all supposed to be like that) but then consider him as an artist who can really get people in a groove (regardless of the fact that he's been making tons of money doing it as well).
Exactly!
Although, obviously, getting all the notes right and making the audience feel it are not mutually exclusive (I'm not saying you thought they were). Some people subscribe to the idea that technical proficiency somehow compromises feeling. But a technically procificient musician can always play 'badly' on purpose if the feeling of the music requires it. The opposite direction is not possible.
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Absolutely. While you don't have to be a great musician to be popular, it's hard to be popular if you just plain suck. Can I say suck? Anyway, I think it would be safe to say that Vanessa moves a lot of us with her music, despite the fact that she has trouble remembering lyrics on stage. 8)
But you're right, a technically perfect performance can still be moving as long as there is emotion in the music and it's not just a mechanically played robot rendition.
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it's hard to be popular if you just plain suck.
A cursory inspection of the top ten in this country indicates otherwise. heh.
Plain suck + enough marketing + impressionable idiots = popular.
But yeah, outside the sphere of modern day chart music, I agree.
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Okay, okay, so... It's okay to suck as long as you have backup singers and/or musicians cleverly produced to make you sound good. You can still be popular. :razz:
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Yes, it's just like the difference between getting all the notes right and making the audience feel it. Listen to Led Zeppelin and all the notes Jimmy Page plain blows in a hard-and-fast solo (and you can't tell me they're all supposed to be like that) but then consider him as an artist who can really get people in a groove (regardless of the fact that he's been making tons of money doing it as well).
I always thought Page played great but sloppy as all hell. A good argument for NOT knocking back a case of Budweiser before hitting "record". Witness "D'Yer MaK'r"....
Can't believe I posted in here 2 years ago. What I said about the Fabs goes double for me now, as well!
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What do you think about it when a newer artist/band brings in transparent influence from the Beatles? And by that, I don't mean copy or rip off or mock. I mean, when a band truly means to capture the spirit of a Beatles style with the bass style we remember Paul for, the lead guitar style we remember George for, the piano styles we remember both Paul and John for, and the drumming styles we remember from Ringo.
I'll cite a couple of examples: I know some of you probably hate the band Jet with all your soul, but "Look What You've Done" borrows extensively and ever-so-obviously from the Beatles. And listen to "Something To Sleep To" by Michelle Branch. If you dismiss the fact that Michelle's voice sounds nothing like Paul McCartney, it's not hard to pretend you're listening to the real thing in many parts.
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I love Beatle-ish sounding things. Doesn't bother me in the least. I think the world would be a better place if people put more emphasis on melody(as the Beatles did) and less on slick dance grooves......just my opinion.
Dan/NS
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Golden Slumbers......... :D *heart*
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You gotta hear their less widely-known stuff (not the so-called "hits") to really appreciate their talent.
Listen to "Golden Slumbers", "In My Life", "The Long and Winding Road", "Blackbird", and "A Day in the Life", and "Something". Beautiful!
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"Strawberry Fields Forever" has always been something of a theme song to me. :infinity: