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Other Topics => Other Musicians => Topic started by: Scotty on December 20, 2003, 11:33:04 am
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Michelle McManus is absolutley amazing, I just love her voice. I voted for her in Pop Idol lets hop she wins (http://messenger.msn.co.uk/Resource/emoticons/thumbs_up.gif)
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MICHELLE WON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! IM SOO HAPPY FOR HER!!!!!!!!!
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Pop Idol drives me bloody mad!!
I mean, okay...she breaks the mould, but only coz she's too big for it! (No, I don't have anything against fat people, I'm just really mad right now :x ).
It just really annoys me how none of them really break the mould. I mean musically. They just keep unleashing more bubblegum pop into the world and it drives me craaaaaaazy and it turns poor little innocent kids and naive teenage girls brains to mush!!!!!!!!
Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!!! :evil:
Okay...I'm done now.
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Pop Idol drives me bloody mad!!
I mean, okay...she breaks the mould, but only coz she's too big for it! (No, I don't have anything against fat people, I'm just really mad right now :x ).
It just really annoys me how none of them really break the mould. I mean musically. They just keep unleashing more bubblegum pop into the world and it drives me craaaaaaazy and it turns poor little innocent kids and naive teenage girls brains to mush!!!!!!!!
Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!!! :evil:
Okay...I'm done now.
well im just happy for her she is from my home town about a 2 mins walk from where i live and she has an amazing voice.
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well im just happy for her she is from my home town about a 2 mins walk from where i live and she has an amazing voice.
I'm not dissing her voice or your home town or her or anything like that,
It's just the whole concept of "Pop" Idol that annoys me.
I certainly have nothing against you, Scott.
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Pop Idol drives me bloody mad!!
I mean, okay...she breaks the mould, but only coz she's too big for it! (No, I don't have anything against fat people, I'm just really mad right now :x ).
It just really annoys me how none of them really break the mould. I mean musically. They just keep unleashing more bubblegum pop into the world and it drives me craaaaaaazy and it turns poor little innocent kids and naive teenage girls brains to mush!!!!!!!!
Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!!! :evil:
Okay...I'm done now.
Well Michelle is certainly not "bubblegum pop" we have the Cheeky Girls for that and as u say none of the really break the mould musically, but michelle has done that she has proven that its not all about the image its about the music.
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so u should save ur rant for an anti pop idol post.
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so u should save ur rant for an anti pop idol post.
Well I tried to do that, but my computer crashed and I couldn't be bothered to type everything out again...so I ranted here. Sorry.
I really feel crappy today =)
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Topics merged here
She recently won the newest Pop Idol in Britain. She may not look like the image of a popstar but her voice is really amazing and when I first heard her, I was blown away. Her newest single is "All This Time". I would definately suggest the people in the U.S. to give it a listen. Its really nice.
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Her single sounds identical to 'Evergreen' and i don't think her voice is that great. However, people should stop ripping her for her weight.
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Already a thread...
http://forum.nessaholics.com/viewtopic.php?t=4647&highlight=michelle+mcmanus
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Already a thread...
http://forum.nessaholics.com/viewtopic.php?t=4647&highlight=michelle+mcmanus
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Hmmm. The perfect chance for me to try out the merge thread feature. Gimme a sec.
Edit: It worked. Thanks for doing my job Tia :)
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whoopsie...my mistake...I didn't look up to see if there was another topic...haha...what a retard I am.
but yea, I really really like her song. It's really nice to listen to.
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I've been thinking about Michelle recently.
It's a great thing in principle to have somebody that goes against the usual popstar image actually having some success. But the sad truth is that the people who market bad music with the usual sexy image are the same people who are marketing her as "standing strong against the shallow pop image". The pop industry doesn't care about double standards, just money. They'll play on that marketing hook for a while, make some money and then dump her when the public gets bored. The same thing happened with Rick Waller (Another fat pop idol). It's niave to think she will change anything as far as the image and integrity of music goes. She's just going to get used and spat out. It's sad but true. If I was a betting man I'd put my life on it.
No artist will ever change the industry. They don't have any power to. The only way anything can change is if the record buying public stop buying pop music. IMHO people need to take the time to investigate different music, rather than just buying whatever has a "catchy" beat because that's what is shoved in front of their faces. If people actually do that and the masses still want pop music, I'll eat my hat. But people never will and it saddens me :(
After reading back, I realised I went into preacher mode there. Sorry :-\ But I still stand by it.
-Kev
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You know, if she had the most amazing voice ever then fair play, i'd say she was good- but she ISNT. And "oooh isn't it great the pop mould has been broken" it has been before- just look at a lot of the 'Divas"-Aretha Franklin wasn't exactly thin, nor was Chaka Khan or umm Barry White (lol). Its not a case of her breaking the mould, and even then thats not good enough justification for letting her be a popstar- teenage girls voted for her because then they felt better about their weight, and so did tons of middle aged women for the same reason, oh along with the WHOLE of Scotland voting. That gives you a winner, but she won't last- and you know it.
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You know, if she had the most amazing voice ever then fair play, i'd say she was good- but she ISNT. And "oooh isn't it great the pop mould has been broken" it has been before- just look at a lot of the 'Divas"-Aretha Franklin wasn't exactly thin, nor was Chaka Khan or umm Barry White (lol). Its not a case of her breaking the mould, and even then thats not good enough justification for letting her be a popstar- teenage girls voted for her because then they felt better about their weight, and so did tons of middle aged women for the same reason, oh along with the WHOLE of Scotland voting. That gives you a winner, but she won't last- and you know it.
None of the above ppl come into any category with Michelle and never made their way into the music industry the same way as Michelle plus it's not just 'the people' that made her win she got through the auditions just like everybody else didnt she?
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You know, if she had the most amazing voice ever then fair play, i'd say she was good- but she ISNT. And "oooh isn't it great the pop mould has been broken" it has been before- just look at a lot of the 'Divas"-Aretha Franklin wasn't exactly thin, nor was Chaka Khan or umm Barry White (lol). Its not a case of her breaking the mould, and even then thats not good enough justification for letting her be a popstar- teenage girls voted for her because then they felt better about their weight, and so did tons of middle aged women for the same reason, oh along with the WHOLE of Scotland voting. That gives you a winner, but she won't last- and you know it.
None of the above ppl come into any category with Michelle and never made their way into the music industry the same way as Michelle plus it's not just 'the people' that made her win she got through the auditions just like everybody else didnt she?
Do you know why they're not in the same musical catergory? Because they're musical legends and Michelle will dissapear after a year. And of course they didn't make it into music like Michelle did- they made it the REAL way- without huge amounts of publicity and hype just for Simon Fuller to make another few million quid. The music industry isn't as easy as auditioning, people voting and suddenly you win- but Pop Idol is, and thats why it produces rubbish artists.
I don't doubt that she can sing, thats not my point, she's just not outstanding (or anywhere near.)
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You know, if she had the most amazing voice ever then fair play, i'd say she was good- but she ISNT. And "oooh isn't it great the pop mould has been broken" it has been before- just look at a lot of the 'Divas"-Aretha Franklin wasn't exactly thin, nor was Chaka Khan or umm Barry White (lol). Its not a case of her breaking the mould, and even then thats not good enough justification for letting her be a popstar- teenage girls voted for her because then they felt better about their weight, and so did tons of middle aged women for the same reason, oh along with the WHOLE of Scotland voting. That gives you a winner, but she won't last- and you know it.
None of the above ppl come into any category with Michelle and never made their way into the music industry the same way as Michelle plus it's not just 'the people' that made her win she got through the auditions just like everybody else didnt she?
Do you know why they're not in the same musical catergory? Because they're musical legends and Michelle will dissapear after a year. And of course they didn't make it into music like Michelle did- they made it the REAL way- without huge amounts of publicity and hype just for Simon Fuller to make another few million quid. The music industry isn't as easy as auditioning, people voting and suddenly you win- but Pop Idol is, and thats why it produces rubbish artists.
I don't doubt that she can sing, thats not my point, she's just not outstanding (or anywhere near.)
I didn't ask 'why they're not in the same musical catergory' I was just saying that Aretha Franklin or Barry White aint pop and u said the pop mould had been broken before. :?
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Already a thread...
http://forum.nessaholics.com/viewtopic.php?t=4647&highlight=michelle+mcmanus
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Hmmm. The perfect chance for me to try out the merge thread feature. Gimme a sec.
Edit: It worked. Thanks for doing my job Tia :)
Can I have your job? :-P
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Can I have your job? :-P
Yeah sure, my password is "dsfddw2". Just send me your's and we'll swap 8-)
-Kev
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You know, if she had the most amazing voice ever then fair play, i'd say she was good- but she ISNT. And "oooh isn't it great the pop mould has been broken" it has been before- just look at a lot of the 'Divas"-Aretha Franklin wasn't exactly thin, nor was Chaka Khan or umm Barry White (lol). Its not a case of her breaking the mould, and even then thats not good enough justification for letting her be a popstar- teenage girls voted for her because then they felt better about their weight, and so did tons of middle aged women for the same reason, oh along with the WHOLE of Scotland voting. That gives you a winner, but she won't last- and you know it.
None of the above ppl come into any category with Michelle and never made their way into the music industry the same way as Michelle plus it's not just 'the people' that made her win she got through the auditions just like everybody else didnt she?
Do you know why they're not in the same musical catergory? Because they're musical legends and Michelle will dissapear after a year. And of course they didn't make it into music like Michelle did- they made it the REAL way- without huge amounts of publicity and hype just for Simon Fuller to make another few million quid. The music industry isn't as easy as auditioning, people voting and suddenly you win- but Pop Idol is, and thats why it produces rubbish artists.
I don't doubt that she can sing, thats not my point, she's just not outstanding (or anywhere near.)
I didn't ask 'why they're not in the same musical catergory' I was just saying that Aretha Franklin or Barry White aint pop and u said the pop mould had been broken before. :?
People don't always have to ask questions for people to give answers- just because you didn't ask for me to explain WHY doesn't mean you don't need an answer. And I count pop as 'popular' music , pop music was the not the same music then as it is now.
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Can I have your job? :-P
Yeah sure, my password is "dsfddw2". Just send me your's and we'll swap 8-)
-Kev
Are you sure about that? Coz I tried it and it didn't work! :razz:
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Are you sure about that? Coz I tried it and it didn't work! :razz:
*gasp* she tried to break into a moderator account.
Ban, ban, ban! :-P
-Kev
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Are you sure about that? Coz I tried it and it didn't work! :razz:
*gasp* she tried to break into a moderator account.
Ban, ban, ban! :-P
-Kev
LOL!
You thought I'd just let it pass me by...? :-P
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Are you sure about that? Coz I tried it and it didn't work! :razz:
*gasp* she tried to break into a moderator account.
Ban, ban, ban! :-P
-Kev
Scum, You are the kind of guy who would like fake medieval jousting.
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Are you sure about that? Coz I tried it and it didn't work! :razz:
*gasp* she tried to break into a moderator account.
Ban, ban, ban! :-P
-Kev
Scum, You are the kind of guy who would like fake medieval jousting.
:roflmao:
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Scum, You are the kind of guy who would like fake medieval jousting.
Hmmm perhaps. I have seen "A Knights Tale" and awful lot of times. It does seem like good fun. Those medieval types couldn't control poverty, fires or disease, but they certainly had it right with sports.
-Kev
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Ouch (http://www.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30500-13005443,00.html)