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cow tipping - the art of tipping cows over whilst they are sleeping
I have a new odd obsession for cow tipping! Has anybody ever done this? I want to so bad. It's on my list of things to do before I die.
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LMAO!!!
I've so heard of that, I dont remember who told me last year, but some girl at my school told me she went cow tipping and loved it, she liked how the cows couldn't get up and stuff, but I told her they end up dying!!!!
lol
Oh man, when she said it it was so random and funny...
:D
I wouldn't like to go cow tipping, bamboo bimbo
:)
Manda
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It's not that they are unable to get up, it just takes them a while (gives you time to run away). Oh God, it sounds like WAY too much fun.
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i heard you can't really do it...but i haven't tried.
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Oh, you surely can! I know people who have!
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same here!
Cow Tippin' is the best in the west, partner!
Manda
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cow tipping - the art of tipping cows over whilst they are sleeping
I have a new odd obsession for cow tipping! Has anybody ever done this? I want to so bad. It's on my list of things to do before I die.
I am very happy that I have NEVER been that hard up for something to do.
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cow tipping - the art of tipping cows over whilst they are sleeping
I have a new odd obsession for cow tipping! Has anybody ever done this? I want to so bad. It's on my list of things to do before I die.
I am very happy that I have NEVER been that hard up for something to do.
same here, lol
it's kinda sad... I don't see how people can get pleasure in causing animals pain.
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8O
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my dad grew up on a farm, i'll ask him if hes ever done it :idea:
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I've also heard that you can't do it. I live in dairy country, they'd know for sure.
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I'd heard its possible, but that it kills the cow if you do it....
might just but an urban legend(errr okay not so urban)
I dont really know.
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my dad grew up on a farm, i'll ask him if hes ever done it :idea:
i asked him if he knows if its possibe and he said he didnt know :roll: lol
but my mom said "I'm sure if u gave them the money they would take it" :lol:
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hehee.. sounds fun :twisted:
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Cows do tip over. But you have to be young and really really bored and live in the country to really want to do it. I'm sure it was made up by someone who at night had nothing to do but stare at a field of cows and become intoxicated.
EDIT: But you have to be carefull because you could be hurt. Take a bull also in the field for instance. Or cows that don't want to be tipped over. Cows do stampeed. Therefore you could be seriously injured.
tylor
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very true.
you can tip cows though, I'm sure of that.
Manda
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it's kinda sad... I don't see how people can get pleasure in causing animals pain.
Totally agree.
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I just want to clear a coupl eof things up here:
Tipping is for Barista's and Bartenders!
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I just want to clear a coupl eof things up here:
Tipping is for Barista's and Bartenders!
You actaully know Barista's who have tipped cows? Wow. You really do know alot of people. :wink:
But seriously, as far as I know there is a real potential that the cow will be permanently hurt from tipping.
tylor
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I just want to clear a coupl eof things up here:
Tipping is for Barista's and Bartenders!
You actaully know Barista's who have tipped cows? Wow. You really do know alot of people. :wink:
But seriously, as far as I know there is a real potential that the cow will be permanently hurt from tipping.
tylor
iokane knows people that know people that know people.. unkay He even knows the uy that say Farris pass out at 31 flavors.... No joke!
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I just want to clear a coupl eof things up here:
Tipping is for Barista's and Bartenders!
You actaully know Barista's who have tipped cows? Wow. You really do know alot of people. :wink:
But seriously, as far as I know there is a real potential that the cow will be permanently hurt from tipping.
tylor
Just for the record. You can tip a cow over just like you can any animal. They can and do get up and the cow will most likely try to STOP you from knocking it over. Cows do not sleep standing up though... which is the common myth about cow tipping. They are not generally hurt by it (i mean, come on. How much damage would it do you to call over? Like we haven't all tripped and fallen before?).
If there is a bull in the field, DO NOT EVEN TRY TO DO IT. I am speaking from experience on this one. The bull will likely chase you.
Anyone who thinks this is "cruelty" to animals is just silly. As I said, it's annoying to the cow, but it doesn't hurt the thing.
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Cow tipping, why would u wanna turn Britney in her sleep :D
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First of all, LMAO @ Andrew being chased by a bull.
Secondly, this thread reminds me of putting Bee's on strings!! Ahhh so funny.
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First of all, LMAO @ Andrew being chased by a bull.
It's only funny because it's never happened to you!
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First of all, LMAO @ Andrew being chased by a bull.
It's only funny because it's never happened to you!
Alas my friend you are wrong, i do remember vaguely when i was younger being chased by the bull in the field next to my Granny's house. However, i think i have probably blocked it out due to trauma.
P.S It is also blatantly your fault for attempting to tip a cow in the first place, one word- FOOL.
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Cow tipping, why would u wanna turn Britney in her sleep :D
You think Britney is a cow? That's kind of odd because she is really thin...maybe you like belimic girls better! Lets see if we can find you one,sweety!! :roll:
*image what you would think of me if you saw me....jesus!*
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Cow tipping...?! 8O :?
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people always talk about that here... since i live out in the middle of nowhere... aka farm country. Never tried it.. but i do have this had thats like a baseball cap.. with the cow print on it hahahaha! *must take a picture with it on*
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One of the people my stepfather insures has two cows and someone tipped one of them, broke all the cows ribs and it had to be put to sleep. Its about 800 pounds falling on bones that are unable to support that type of impact......It is possible to do but like others said its very dangerous and if you tip a cow you will most likely cause irreversible damage...Cows are gentle animals by nature and provide us with food and drink....if you arent a vegetarian, But either way, cowtipping is for jocks, cant stand stupid crap like that.
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I would think also that whoever owns the cow wouldn't want you to tip it because it might affect the produtivity of the cow. Either in meat or milk.
tylor
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They are not generally hurt by it (i mean, come on. How much damage would it do you to call over? Like we haven't all tripped and fallen before?)
Also Andrew from all the intelligent things i've seen you say here, you failed on this one. Comparing a human falling to a cow falling? You can drop an ant 30 stories and it doesnt get hurt, but you drop one of us 30 stories.....Also imagine if a giraffe was running and tripped. Not all animals are created to withstand falls equally
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They are not generally hurt by it (i mean, come on. How much damage would it do you to call over? Like we haven't all tripped and fallen before?)
Also Andrew from all the intelligent things i've seen you say here, you failed on this one. Comparing a human falling to a cow falling? You can drop an ant 30 stories and it doesnt get hurt, but you drop one of us 30 stories.....Also imagine if a giraffe was running and tripped. Not all animals are created to withstand falls equally
*agrees with Pete*
Cows can and do get hurt from tipping! I've heard of stories. I have family in Norway who have a dairy farm. We went to stay with them once and he told me that it's happened before. When his cows were in the pasture someone tipped one of them and they had to put it to sleep because it was so badly hurt!
I just think its a pointless prank to do, and why would anyone be so cruel as to want to hurt a innocent animal? There are much better things to do if you're bored, lol.
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Cow tipping, why would u wanna turn Britney in her sleep :D
You think Britney is a cow? That's kind of odd because she is really thin...maybe you like belimic girls better! Lets see if we can find you one,sweety!! :roll:
*image what you would think of me if you saw me....jesus!*
she isnt skinny at all she has gotten real fat
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Cow tipping, why would u wanna turn Britney in her sleep :D
You think Britney is a cow? That's kind of odd because she is really thin...maybe you like belimic girls better! Lets see if we can find you one,sweety!! :roll:
*image what you would think of me if you saw me....jesus!*
she isnt skinny at all she has gotten real fat
omg is that what you think fat is? That's the size of a normal human! My god...do you want everyone to be paper thin? comments like that really make me realize how stupid people are. Why don't I just go throw up right now so I won't be called and elephant according to you. My god.
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I think he just doesn't like Britney. It has nothing to do with how fat she is. But he makes a rude comment anyway. Oh well.
tylor
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I think he just doesn't like Britney. It has nothing to do with how fat she is. But he makes a rude comment anyway. Oh well.
tylor
Yeah, saying someone is a cow here doesn't mean they're fat. But Scott seems to think Britney is fat too...
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P.S It is also blatantly your fault for attempting to tip a cow in the first place, one word- FOOL.
I agree. I take full blame for youthfull stupidity. But god damn, you ever seen a 12 year old leap a 6 foot fence in a single bound? It's fucking funny.
And @ Pete - BS. Maybe that happened once, but as I have repeatedly stated... I live in KENTUCKY. My uncle owns a horse farm and had dairy cattle, I had 2 friends growing up who lived on farmland one of who was within bike riding distance from my house (the other was a few hours away, but we used to go there on weekend sometimes). I am quite familiar with cattle and I have NEVER seen a cow suffering significant damage from being knocked over. Mostly they just go Moooooooooo and get back up. Fuck, I've SEEN cattle fall over on their own when trying to graze in a pack on an awkward spot on a hill!
Nature isn't stupid enough to make animals that can't trip and fall without having to be put down. Maybe your stepfathers customer or whatever was raising meat stock and was OVER feeding them and giving them growth hormones to the point where they were too top heavy. That happens sometimes, and it's fucking stupid but don't PRETEND like that is the norm, because it isn't.
NORMAL healthy CATTLE, especially dairy cattle, can fall over and it doesn't hurt them one bit... barring falling on a rock or off a ledge or something stupid like that.
Edit @ Holy - You grew up in a different place. Don't judge till you've been there. I can assure there were probably a dozen things you did as a child that I would find stupid or cruel or unnecessary. The diff between the midwest and the west coast are as different as NYC and Paris.
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P.S It is also blatantly your fault for attempting to tip a cow in the first place, one word- FOOL.
I agree. I take full blame for youthfull stupidity. But god damn, you ever seen a 12 year old leap a 6 foot fence in a single bound? It's fucking funny.
Billy Elliot!
The diff between the midwest and the west coast are as different as NYC and Paris.
Hmmm i wouldn't say there's loads of difference between NYC and Paris actually.
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Billy Elliot!
I have no idea who that is.
Hmmm i wouldn't say there's loads of difference between NYC and Paris actually.
Shush! Who's side are you on, anyways?!?
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This has to be the wierdest debate thread ever... 8O :lol: :wink:
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I think he just doesn't like Britney. It has nothing to do with how fat she is. But he makes a rude comment anyway. Oh well.
tylor
Bingo! 8O
Yeah, saying someone is a cow here doesn't mean they're fat. But Scott seems to think Britney is fat too...
I didn't mean Britney is fat I just think she has got fatter and as Rosie said Brits use the word fat just as an insult not to mean someone is fat.
I didnt mean to offend u Shelly, sorry.
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I didnt mean to offend u Shelly, sorry.
thats nice. :D
:wink:
Manda
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Billy Elliot!
I have no idea who that is.
Someone didn't pay attention in class (http://forum.nessaholics.com/viewtopic.php?t=4739). In fact i believe in the picture he is indeed jumping over his imaginary fence...or not.
Hmmm i wouldn't say there's loads of difference between NYC and Paris actually.
Shush! Who's side are you on, anyways?!?
Occasionally (and i mean occasionally) i do feel inclined to stop BSing. This was one of those times, *hangs head in shame*
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Someone didn't pay attention in class (http://forum.nessaholics.com/viewtopic.php?t=4739). In fact i believe in the picture he is indeed jumping over his imaginary fence...or not.
Hmmm. So its that great eh? I might have to hire it out now. I always deliberately avoided seeing it because I've never seen a Brittish film that I've really liked (well, at least not one that doesn't star Robert "The Legend" Carlyle).
-Kev
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Edit @ Holy - You grew up in a different place. Don't judge till you've been there. I can assure there were probably a dozen things you did as a child that I would find stupid or cruel or unnecessary. The diff between the midwest and the west coast are as different as NYC and Paris.
You once got mad at me for me telling to dont do sometime (ie make fun of depression), now you're telling me don't judge something. Can you say hypocrite?
I know I don't live in a place with cows anywhere near it, but I have lots of family (family in norway, idaho, etc) that has, and that's where I get my judgement about it. Actually my grandparents had a ranch which I spent a lot of time on growing up.... I know I dont have the most knowledge on it, but I have enough to give an opinion if I choose to.
Cows CAN get hurt from cow tipping. Humans CAN get hit from falling down. Someone in my family fell down and was hurt so badly they had a stroke. Yeah... they were old. But can you really be sure that every cow that people tip over is healthy and young, and therefore it won't hurt them?
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Someone didn't pay attention in class (http://forum.nessaholics.com/viewtopic.php?t=4739). In fact i believe in the picture he is indeed jumping over his imaginary fence...or not.
Hmmm. So its that great eh? I might have to hire it out now. I always deliberately avoided seeing it because I've never seen a Brittish film that I've really liked (well, at least not one that doesn't star Robert "The Legend" Carlyle).
-Kev
Oooh i love it, but in a very girly way- you're a LOTR boy- however it may bring a tear to your eye. Its GREAT.
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Someone didn't pay attention in class (http://forum.nessaholics.com/viewtopic.php?t=4739). In fact i believe in the picture he is indeed jumping over his imaginary fence...or not.
Hmmm. So its that great eh? I might have to hire it out now. I always deliberately avoided seeing it because I've never seen a Brittish film that I've really liked (well, at least not one that doesn't star Robert "The Legend" Carlyle).
-Kev
I go to his old school on a saturdays the Royal Scottish Academy of Music and Drama (RSAMD) for piano they have his picture up on the wall with a thank you and a signature Alan Cumming also went to that school.
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Colin Firth went to my school! My best friend bumped into him in Boots over christmas (she ADORES him) and was in total shock. She just pointed and went "Oh my fuckin' god its colin firth!" in the most stupid voice you can imagine.
Jack Dee came from my school, along with Wayne Bridge the famous footballer-oooh yeah. Right, back on topic!
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I go to his old school on a saturdays the Royal Scottish Academy of Music and Drama (RSAMD) for piano they have his picture up on the wall with a thank you and a signature Alan Cumming also went to that school.
Killer. Nobody famous ever came from my school. In fact, after Gary Lineker and Lee from Big Brother (oh the fame) I think I'm more famous that anyone from Leicester :-\
Jack Dee came from my school, along with Wayne Bridge the famous footballer-oooh yeah.
Aha! Was it your dad who once told Wayne Bridge that he'd never make it as a pro footballer? lol. I thought somebody had told me about it but I couln't for the life of me remember who it was. I thought it must have been a dream or something.
Right, back on topic!
I don't think there's much more that can be said on cow tipping.
-Kev
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I go to his old school on a saturdays the Royal Scottish Academy of Music and Drama (RSAMD) for piano they have his picture up on the wall with a thank you and a signature Alan Cumming also went to that school.
Killer. Nobody famous ever came from my school. In fact, after Gary Lineker and Lee from Big Brother (oh the fame) I think I'm more famous that anyone from Leicester :-\
Well, like we were expecting more... :roll:
Jack Dee came from my school, along with Wayne Bridge the famous footballer-oooh yeah.
Aha! Was it your dad who once told Wayne Bridge that he'd never make it as a pro footballer? lol. I thought somebody had told me about it but I couln't for the life of me remember who it was. I thought it must have been a dream or something.
Yup, it was indeedy. He now has his old text book hidden in the back of one of his filing cabinets. He nearly cried when he saw good ol' wayne come on in the Argentina game! Oh and last year at Presentation Evening Bridgey was the guest speaker. Who did we get? Some laaaame head of a charity, lol.
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Oh and last year at Presentation Evening Bridgey was the guest speaker. Who did we get? Some laaaame head of a charity, lol.
lmao. Yep if there's anything the world needs it's less charities and more professional footballers... Oh wait :?
Seriosuly though, it's a cool story to have to tell. Even though your Wayne will never eclipse our Gary ;)
-Kev
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P.S It is also blatantly your fault for attempting to tip a cow in the first place, one word- FOOL.
I agree. I take full blame for youthfull stupidity. But god damn, you ever seen a 12 year old leap a 6 foot fence in a single bound? It's fucking funny.
And @ Pete - BS. Maybe that happened once, but as I have repeatedly stated... I live in KENTUCKY. My uncle owns a horse farm and had dairy cattle, I had 2 friends growing up who lived on farmland one of who was within bike riding distance from my house (the other was a few hours away, but we used to go there on weekend sometimes). I am quite familiar with cattle and I have NEVER seen a cow suffering significant damage from being knocked over. Mostly they just go Moooooooooo and get back up. Fuck, I've SEEN cattle fall over on their own when trying to graze in a pack on an awkward spot on a hill!
Nature isn't stupid enough to make animals that can't trip and fall without having to be put down. Maybe your stepfathers customer or whatever was raising meat stock and was OVER feeding them and giving them growth hormones to the point where they were too top heavy. That happens sometimes, and it's fucking stupid but don't PRETEND like that is the norm, because it isn't.
NORMAL healthy CATTLE, especially dairy cattle, can fall over and it doesn't hurt them one bit... barring falling on a rock or off a ledge or something stupid like that.
Edit @ Holy - You grew up in a different place. Don't judge till you've been there. I can assure there were probably a dozen things you did as a child that I would find stupid or cruel or unnecessary. The diff between the midwest and the west coast are as different as NYC and Paris.
Because you live in kentucky what i say is BS? I doubt this Andrew,,,Typically the cows die from shock or broken ribs......Its not overfeeding them that makes them top heavy, they just naturally are, The cows you saw fall didnt take a real plummet they probably just tripped up and landed on the stomach mostly.
Want proof? And dont ever give me the BS line without verifying your facts first
http://www.digitalo.com/vrml/cowtip.html
http://www.bradstratton.com/FACT/
http://www.octanecreative.com/ducttape/cowtaping.htmlhttp://
And also if nature isnt stupid enough to create an animal that would be extremely injured by falling then why did nature create a giraffe?
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just be kind to animlas, lol
they didn't do anything to you, did they?
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Edit @ Holy - You grew up in a different place. Don't judge till you've been there. I can assure there were probably a dozen things you did as a child that I would find stupid or cruel or unnecessary. The diff between the midwest and the west coast are as different as NYC and Paris.
You once got mad at me for me telling to dont do sometime (ie make fun of depression), now you're telling me don't judge something. Can you say hypocrite?
I know I don't live in a place with cows anywhere near it, but I have lots of family (family in norway, idaho, etc) that has, and that's where I get my judgement about it. Actually my grandparents had a ranch which I spent a lot of time on growing up.... I know I dont have the most knowledge on it, but I have enough to give an opinion if I choose to.
Cows CAN get hurt from cow tipping. Humans CAN get hit from falling down. Someone in my family fell down and was hurt so badly they had a stroke. Yeah... they were old. But can you really be sure that every cow that people tip over is healthy and young, and therefore it won't hurt them?
Actually, you should look up the word HYPCRITE. Because you apparently don't know what it means. I would be a hypocrite if I said "I shouldn't tell people what to do" and then i told you what to do. What I said was "YOU shouldn't tell ME what to do". And you know what? I still tand by that statement. Thereby, making me NOT a hypocrite.
It does mean I have double standards. In fact, often times I have tripple and quadrouple standards.
And I wasn't doubting your experience with Cattle.... I was doubting your comments about the boredom of people. You seriously underappreciate the culture of some places where there isn't anything to do but run around in the fields and goof off. When you're 12, tormenting live stock sounds entertaining. Don't judge people who grew up in rural settings by the same standards you judge people you grew up with in CA.
I'm not talking about being malicious and TRYING to hurt animals here. It's just kids being kids.
Edit @ Pete
That is one of the sadest pieces of "research" I have ever seen. You linked me to three sites with side comments from people who give no background, no evidence and are CLEARLY not scientific or educational sites. Those are sites run by RANDOM guy.
The opinions of those three websites are no more valid to me than YOUR own 3rd hand acount of a client of your step fathers.
I am giving you FIRST HAND accounts that I have NEVER seen a cow fall over and become seriously injured. I am not saying it is IMPOSSIBLE. I am disputing that it is LIKELY. Because, clearly, it isn't.
As for your comment about cows being naturally top heavy, you should do some more of your "research" on the topic of beef cattle and the heavy use of growth hormones in the beef industry. It is a pretty big controversy right now not only because of the health of hte cattle but also the health of the consumers.
Cattle are grown to be large and ungainly specifically for a higher meat content. They are not NATURALLY like that.
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It IS malicious, It is illegal as well as morally incorrect
kids being kids is one thing, kids hurting animals is another
PS: theres lots of cows where i live,..Yes massachusetts does have cows
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It IS malicious, It is illegal as well as morally incorrect
kids being kids is one thing, kids hurting animals is another
PS: theres lots of cows where i live,..Yes massachusetts does have cows
Technically, it is only illegal if it's not your cow.....
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It IS malicious, It is illegal as well as morally incorrect
kids being kids is one thing, kids hurting animals is another
PS: theres lots of cows where i live,..Yes massachusetts does have cows
Technically, it is only illegal if it's not your cow.....
I know clearly that your first hand experience is incorrect. And one of those sites is an organization against cow tipping who surely wasnt created just because they think its bad. Just because you live in Kentucky you must be right though...That my friend is truly the weaker evidence here. Why dont you call the ASPCA and ask them? Otherwise you're just being a dufus
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LMAO this whole thread reminds me of the scene in the book The Thorn Birds where one of the sons dies because a boarhound falls on him :-P Not to make light of someone dying becuase a boarhound fell on them, but you have to admit, it's not something you hear of everyday.
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I know clearly that your first hand experience is incorrect. And one of those sites is an organization against cow tipping who surely wasnt created just because they think its bad. Just because you live in Kentucky you must be right though...That my friend is truly the weaker evidence here. Why dont you call the ASPCA and ask them? Otherwise you're just being a dufus
Dude. Seriously. Did you read the site? Your "organization against cow tipping" is litteraly a guys personal homepage.
www.bradstratton.com
It's a frickin GUY. One GUY. I could make a webpage at www.grakthis.com/suckme and call it
SUCKIT
Society for Unilateral Capturing of Itinerant Tree-dwellers
(which would be in direct conflict with the CLIT, coalition for the liberation of itinerant tree-dwellers)
but that doesn't make me an expert on chimps now does it?
But I could have that site up in an hour if I wanted.
You have given me zero evidence except single lines from random websites by random guys on the internet that litteraly have no credentials or expertise on the subject and a 3rd hand source of a guy your step dad kinda sorta once thought he might have possibly known at some point in highschool cause he was related to his sisters promdate.
And at WHAT point did I use me living in KY as evidence of my expertise? I was simply stating my home of origin to give background to what ACTUALLY makes me familiar with the topic. Which would be having spend extensive time on three different farms with cattle.
Seriously Pete, on a scale of suck to suck, your argument here SUUUUUUCKS.
Edit @ Pete - How about you call the aspca and ask them how they feel about you eating steak? Make you a deal. You call them and ask if you should eat steak bought from your local grocery store. And if they say "No", then you give it up. Deal?
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Dude. Seriously. Did you read the site? Your "organization against cow tipping" is litteraly a guys personal homepage.
www.bradstratton.com
It's a frickin GUY. One GUY. I could make a webpage at www.grakthis.com/suckme and call it
SUCKIT
Society for Unilateral Capturing of Itinerant Tree-dwellers
(which would be in direct conflict with the CLIT, coalition for the liberation of itinerant tree-dwellers)
but that doesn't make me an expert on chimps now does it?
But I could have that site up in an hour if I wanted.
You have given me zero evidence except single lines from random websites by random guys on the internet that litteraly have no credentials or expertise on the subject and a 3rd hand source of a guy your step dad kinda sorta once thought he might have possibly known at some point in highschool cause he was related to his sisters promdate.
And at WHAT point did I use me living in KY as evidence of my expertise? I was simply stating my home of origin to give background to what ACTUALLY makes me familiar with the topic. Which would be having spend extensive time on three different farms with cattle.
Seriously Pete, on a scale of suck to suck, your argument here SUUUUUUCKS.
Edit @ Pete - How about you call the aspca and ask them how they feel about you eating steak? Make you a deal. You call them and ask if you should eat steak bought from your local grocery store. And if they say "No", then you give it up. Deal?
For one its not some guy my stepdad kinda sorta knows. Its someone he insures since he owns an insurance company and the guy tried to put in a malicious damage property claim which didnt go through because cows arent really of auditory value....Also you have NO evidence, so your argument is WORSE than mine.....And give me a break about the websites...the fact of the matter is these people cared enough to make a website...you DONT, and you ARENT an expert on cows any more than i am just because you live near cows.....You are completely wrong and the fact tthat you think you are correct because i dont have "enough" evidence is a completely failed argument. You think nature created animals so they could fall down, thats ridiculous, and of course every animal created by nature was created perfectly right because nature never makes a mistake right? You're being ignorant,,,..maybe someday you will take a five foot plunge in the middle of sleeping and then you can tell me it didnt hurt. Anyways i gave you three websites i found in two seconds...Try searching for cow tipping on google, i got loads of results and most of them are either a joke of the fact or a site expressing the dangers to the cows and to yourself.
Also why would i ask about whether i should or shouldnt be eating steak when it has NOTHING to do with the argument...Changing the subject because you cant back up your own argument with jack except "Im Andrew and i must know more about cows because i saw one fall when i was younger" ?
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I think he just doesn't like Britney. It has nothing to do with how fat she is. But he makes a rude comment anyway. Oh well.
tylor
Bingo! 8O
Yeah, saying someone is a cow here doesn't mean they're fat. But Scott seems to think Britney is fat too...
I didn't mean Britney is fat I just think she has got fatter and as Rosie said Brits use the word fat just as an insult not to mean someone is fat.
I didnt mean to offend u Shelly, sorry.
Yeah, it is not just that brits don't use it to mean fat, rather I know if you want to say something condelesing to a lady just make a comment similiar to, "Have you gained weight (insert time frame -optional)?" It has exponentially more power if you are in a relationship with said person. Use it wisely. Women say it to other women so it must have power.
tylor
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if you want to say something condelesing to a lady just make a comment similiar to, "Have you gained weight (insert time frame -optional)?" It has exponentially more power if you are in a relationship with said person. Use it wisely. Women say it to other women so it must have power.
You'd think the comment "Have you lost weight (insert time frame -optional)?" would have power for the opposite purpose. But apparently it just implies that they were fat at some point in the past and scuppers your chances :-\ Maybe next time I'll try " Hey, you look exactly the same weight as you were (insert time frame) ago.". Maybe that will appease them ;)
-Kev
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Edit @ Holy - You grew up in a different place. Don't judge till you've been there. I can assure there were probably a dozen things you did as a child that I would find stupid or cruel or unnecessary. The diff between the midwest and the west coast are as different as NYC and Paris.
You once got mad at me for me telling to dont do sometime (ie make fun of depression), now you're telling me don't judge something. Can you say hypocrite?
I know I don't live in a place with cows anywhere near it, but I have lots of family (family in norway, idaho, etc) that has, and that's where I get my judgement about it. Actually my grandparents had a ranch which I spent a lot of time on growing up.... I know I dont have the most knowledge on it, but I have enough to give an opinion if I choose to.
Cows CAN get hurt from cow tipping. Humans CAN get hit from falling down. Someone in my family fell down and was hurt so badly they had a stroke. Yeah... they were old. But can you really be sure that every cow that people tip over is healthy and young, and therefore it won't hurt them?
Actually, you should look up the word HYPCRITE. Because you apparently don't know what it means. I would be a hypocrite if I said "I shouldn't tell people what to do" and then i told you what to do. What I said was "YOU shouldn't tell ME what to do". And you know what? I still tand by that statement. Thereby, making me NOT a hypocrite.
It does mean I have double standards. In fact, often times I have tripple and quadrouple standards.
And I wasn't doubting your experience with Cattle.... I was doubting your comments about the boredom of people. You seriously underappreciate the culture of some places where there isn't anything to do but run around in the fields and goof off. When you're 12, tormenting live stock sounds entertaining. Don't judge people who grew up in rural settings by the same standards you judge people you grew up with in CA.
I'm not talking about being malicious and TRYING to hurt animals here. It's just kids being kids.
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Lol, I "seriously underappreciate" a culture because I think it'd wrong to hurt animals when you're bored? I know sometimes people get bored because there isnt as much to do in the country as where I live in LA, but I'm sure there are better things to do. I just don't think boredom should lead to that... And who said I was judging people along any standards?
It doesnt matter if the "kids" are TRYING to hurt the animals or not... The point is that it can and they should know that. Pushing animals or people to the ground can hurt. I know it hurts when I've fallen, lol.
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I live on farm land and I don't think it's fun to tip cows. I think it's wrong to hurt animals. And YES I have experienced it so you can't say don't judge it.
The End.
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I know it hurts when I've fallen, lol.
You mean to tell me you fell down and it actually hurt? Wow, you must not have been created by nature :wink:
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I know it hurts when I've fallen, lol.
You mean to tell me you fell down and it actually hurt? Wow, you must not have been created by nature :wink:
lol! Yes, I don't know what's wrong with me! I'm a freak of nature I guess.
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I know it hurts when I've fallen, lol.
You mean to tell me you fell down and it actually hurt? Wow, you must not have been created by nature :wink:
lol! Yes, I don't know what's wrong with me! I'm a freak of nature I guess.
too bad you aren't a cow, you wouldnt feel a thing!
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I know it hurts when I've fallen, lol.
You mean to tell me you fell down and it actually hurt? Wow, you must not have been created by nature :wink:
lol! Yes, I don't know what's wrong with me! I'm a freak of nature I guess.
too bad you aren't a cow, you wouldnt feel a thing!
yeah... lucky cows....
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if you want to say something condelesing to a lady just make a comment similiar to, "Have you gained weight (insert time frame -optional)?" It has exponentially more power if you are in a relationship with said person. Use it wisely. Women say it to other women so it must have power.
You'd think the comment "Have you lost weight (insert time frame -optional)?" would have power for the opposite purpose. But apparently it just implies that they were fat at some point in the past and scuppers your chances :-\ Maybe next time I'll try " Hey, you look exactly the same weight as you were (insert time frame) ago.". Maybe that will appease them ;)
-Kev
Just tell them, "You look marvelous," and then tell them after they respond, "Even though you [keyword] LOOK [/keyword] ten pounds overweight."
Yes I know I'm evil. :twisted: I couldn't help it.
tylor
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if you want to say something condelesing to a lady just make a comment similiar to, "Have you gained weight (insert time frame -optional)?" It has exponentially more power if you are in a relationship with said person. Use it wisely. Women say it to other women so it must have power.
You'd think the comment "Have you lost weight (insert time frame -optional)?" would have power for the opposite purpose. But apparently it just implies that they were fat at some point in the past and scuppers your chances :-\ Maybe next time I'll try " Hey, you look exactly the same weight as you were (insert time frame) ago.". Maybe that will appease them ;)
-Kev
Just tell them, "You look marvelous," and then tell them after they respond, "Even though you [keyword] LOOK [/keyword] ten pounds overweight."
Yes I know I'm evil. :twisted: I couldn't help it.
tylor
and what happens if they are on a diet at said time oh the blooodshed 8O
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Maybe next time I'll try " Hey, you look exactly the same weight as you were (insert time frame) ago.". Maybe that will appease them ;)
and what happens if they are on a diet at said time oh the blooodshed 8O
LOL
tylor
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Lol, I "seriously underappreciate" a culture because I think it'd wrong to hurt animals when you're bored? I know sometimes people get bored because there isnt as much to do in the country as where I live in LA, but I'm sure there are better things to do. I just don't think boredom should lead to that... And who said I was judging people along any standards?
It doesnt matter if the "kids" are TRYING to hurt the animals or not... The point is that it can and they should know that. Pushing animals or people to the ground can hurt. I know it hurts when I've fallen, lol.
Firstly omg randomness!!!!! I have never heard about that before ever! I have to say I agree with what Holly said.....
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xoxoxox
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For one its not some guy my stepdad kinda sorta knows. Its someone he insures since he owns an insurance company and the guy tried to put in a malicious damage property claim which didnt go through because cows arent really of auditory value....Also you have NO evidence, so your argument is WORSE than mine.....And give me a break about the websites...the fact of the matter is these people cared enough to make a website...you DONT, and you ARENT an expert on cows any more than i am just because you live near cows.....You are completely wrong and the fact tthat you think you are correct because i dont have "enough" evidence is a completely failed argument. You think nature created animals so they could fall down, thats ridiculous, and of course every animal created by nature was created perfectly right because nature never makes a mistake right? You're being ignorant,,,..maybe someday you will take a five foot plunge in the middle of sleeping and then you can tell me it didnt hurt. Anyways i gave you three websites i found in two seconds...Try searching for cow tipping on google, i got loads of results and most of them are either a joke of the fact or a site expressing the dangers to the cows and to yourself.
Also why would i ask about whether i should or shouldnt be eating steak when it has NOTHING to do with the argument...Changing the subject because you cant back up your own argument with jack except "Im Andrew and i must know more about cows because i saw one fall when i was younger" ?
I swear Pete. Sometimes, you seem so smart. And other times you make posts like this.
Here's the situation. I have first hand experience. I am not trying to convince you of my first hand experience. I am just telling you, "been there, done that". I have been directly involved with the whole cow tipping thing. Now you are trying to say I am wrong. Correct? Yes. You did.
So, if you want to PROVE I am wrong, you have to give me evidence. My evidence is my own first hand experience. So are you discounting that? Are you saying I am a liar? If so, just say it. Stop dancing around it.
I don't THINK i am right because you have no evidence. I THINK I am right because I have SEEN IT FIRST HAND. If you want to show me that I am NOT right, then do so. But you the burden of proof is on YOU in that case.
Also, Cows don't sleep standing up. That's a common myth. So the whole "fall while sleeping thing" is null.
And the NSPCA comment was directed at the fact that the NSPCA is going to be extreme in their protection of animals even to the point of advising people not to eat meat. It's just a fact of the organization. So the comment was not in ANY way changing the subject, because it was quite relevant to the topic. YOu were suggesting that the NSPCA was an expert source on animal treatmenet. I was pointing out to YOU how they are extremists and even YOU wouldn't follow all their advice.
Why do you alway smake such unfounded claims? Such as "because you cant back up your own argument" and "you have NO evidence". I have done nothing but provide evidence and backup my argument with first hand experience. Stop being irrational and actually look at the discussion for a minute.
Edit @ Pete and your little "wow, you fell down and got hurt?! derf derf def" comment at Holly is bratty and immature and doesn't belong in this dicussion. I never said falling down doesn't hurt. I just said, barring extenuating circumstances, it wont kill you. You wanna turn this into a war of sarchasm, go for it. But I assure you that you have a better chance of winning a battle of logic than of wits.
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I swear Pete. Sometimes, you seem so smart. And other times you make posts like this.
Here's the situation. I have first hand experience. I am not trying to convince you of my first hand experience. I am just telling you, "been there, done that". I have been directly involved with the whole cow tipping thing. Now you are trying to say I am wrong. Correct? Yes. You did.
So, if you want to PROVE I am wrong, you have to give me evidence. My evidence is my own first hand experience. So are you discounting that? Are you saying I am a liar? If so, just say it. Stop dancing around it.
I don't THINK i am right because you have no evidence. I THINK I am right because I have SEEN IT FIRST HAND. If you want to show me that I am NOT right, then do so. But you the burden of proof is on YOU in that case.
Also, Cows don't sleep standing up. That's a common myth. So the whole "fall while sleeping thing" is null.
And the NSPCA comment was directed at the fact that the NSPCA is going to be extreme in their protection of animals even to the point of advising people not to eat meat. It's just a fact of the organization. So the comment was not in ANY way changing the subject, because it was quite relevant to the topic. YOu were suggesting that the NSPCA was an expert source on animal treatmenet. I was pointing out to YOU how they are extremists and even YOU wouldn't follow all their advice.
Why do you alway smake such unfounded claims? Such as "because you cant back up your own argument" and "you have NO evidence". I have done nothing but provide evidence and backup my argument with first hand experience. Stop being irrational and actually look at the discussion for a minute.
Edit @ Pete and your little "wow, you fell down and got hurt?! derf derf def" comment at Holly is bratty and immature and doesn't belong in this dicussion. I never said falling down doesn't hurt. I just said, barring extenuating circumstances, it wont kill you. You wanna turn this into a war of sarchasm, go for it. But I assure you that you have a better chance of winning a battle of logic than of wits.
No no. Im not saying a cow will always get injured or die when it falls. I also never said cows sleep standing up. My evidence is from my own personal experience as well which makes it of equal value to your evidence. I just find it hilarious That you think your own personal experience is better than my own personal experience. Ive seen you make some intelligent arguments but in this case your argument is "ive seen it so im right" Well i have seen otherwise than your experience so in all cases you are not correct. Its unbelievable that you cannot accept that tipping over a cow can cause damage. You say im being irrational, but think about it rationally, A cow weighs roughly 1200-1400 pounds..their center of gravity is high....If they fall its going to suck, Its common sense. Im not saying you will kill a cow if you tip it, Im jsut saying theres a good chance you're going to hurt or [keyword]possibly[/keyword] cause serious injury to the animal.
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Well there ermmm clearly was more to be said on this topic...oh the chuckles.
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The cow will not die if you tip it.
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The cow will not die if you tip it.
What a solid argument, I guess i cant argue with that overwhelming evidence
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But I assure you that you have a better chance of winning a battle of logic than of wits.
Like i would lose either way :wink:
Im kinda sick of cow tipping stuff though....How about we just say its possible the cow could get injured so i can be happy and ill say chances are the cow wont be injured and you can be happy? :razz:
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Edit @ Pete and your little "wow, you fell down and got hurt?! derf derf def" comment at Holly is bratty and immature and doesn't belong in this dicussion.
lmao! now we've resorted to name calling? :roll:
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No no. Im not saying a cow will always get injured or die when it falls. I also never said cows sleep standing up..... Im not saying you will kill a cow if you tip it, Im jsut saying theres a good chance you're going to hurt or [keyword]possibly[/keyword] cause serious injury to the animal.
Hold on, one last point. Because what you say in THIS post, I would have let go and not argued with you ni the first place. Because it most assuridly is POSSIBLE for a cow to get injured. I just disputed probability.
Lets do a replay, shall we?
I said
They are not generally hurt by it
Then you said
Its about 800 pounds falling on bones that are unable to support that type of impact......It is possible to do but like others said its very dangerous and if you tip a cow you will most likely cause irreversible damage.
Then I said
NORMAL healthy CATTLE, especially dairy cattle, can fall over and it doesn't hurt them one bit
Then You said
Typically the cows die from shock or broken ribs
Then I said
I am giving you FIRST HAND accounts that I have NEVER seen a cow fall over and become seriously injured. I am not saying it is IMPOSSIBLE. I am disputing that it is LIKELY. Because, clearly, it isn't.
Then You said
I know clearly that your first hand experience is incorrect.
Then I said
I was simply stating my home of origin to give background to what ACTUALLY makes me familiar with the topic. Which would be having spend extensive time on three different farms with cattle.
Then You said
maybe someday you will take a five foot plunge in the middle of sleeping and then you can tell me it didnt hurt
Then I said
I don't THINK i am right because you have no evidence. I THINK I am right because I have SEEN IT FIRST HAND. If you want to show me that I am NOT right, then do so. But you the burden of proof is on YOU in that case.
Also, Cows don't sleep standing up. That's a common myth. So the whole "fall while sleeping thing" is null.
Then YOU said
Im not saying a cow will always get injured or die when it falls. I also never said cows sleep standing up.
(bolds added for emphasis)
And there ended the discussion to date.
So, from these quotes, which one of us is declaring facts about which he or she has no personal experience or information and which one of us is stating a simple personal experience? My initial statement is still completely valid. I simply spoke from personal direct first hand experience about what likely happens when a cow falls over. Then YOU made sweeping broad statements about what happens MOST of the time. Then when I pointed OUT that I was simply recounting my personal experience, your response was to tell me my personal experience was wrong?!? The only way my personal experience can be "wrong" is if I am lying.
Plus, yes... my personal experience will ALWAYS be more valuable than yours (if you are even saying you have directly seen a cow fall over and die). ALWAYS. Not because I am better than you. But because I am ME, and there is a 0 percent chance that I am lying to myself. However, there is atleast some small percent chance that you would lie or exagerate to me.
So your intitial POV was/is "if you tip a cow you will most likely cause irreversible damage" and "Typically the cows die from shock or broken ribs". So you said from statement ONE that a cow will get injured and die MOST ("Typically" and "most likely") of the time, but not ALL of the time?
I will not agree to this statement.
BUT, if you say
chances are the cow wont be injured
I will completely agree. I never disputed that it was possible for a Cow to be hurt when it falls over. IN FACT, if you read from my first post ON DOWN (check some of the bolds), I have been consistent in saying that it IS possible, but unlikely for a cow to get hurt. SO I agree with your last post completely.
And as for Holly, YES, I was insulting what he said. I know Pete is above that kind of behavior. Notice I did not call PETE Petty or immature. I called his statements such. Good people can say bad things, but that doesnt' make them bad people.
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I agree from Andrew 110%. I live in Kentucky. I know a good many people who own farms or have relatives that do or visit them. And at least half of them have gone cow tipping. If they were staying at the farm they would know whether or not the cow died. They get back up within 10-20 minutes or so with most, giving the people time to escape.
I am with Andrew on that we have personal (or near-personal in my case) experiences. You don't. End of story.
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I think the general point of this thread is:
"I'm right, you're wrong. BOG OFF."
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I think the general point of this thread is:
"I'm right, you're wrong. BOG OFF."
I brought it up for fun and it's turned into some kinda war or something!
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Awww poor Joey! *hugs*
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I brought it up for fun and it's turned into some kinda war or something!
I think that's something you could've expected on this board.
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I agree from Andrew 110%. I live in Kentucky. I know a good many people who own farms or have relatives that do or visit them. And at least half of them have gone cow tipping. If they were staying at the farm they would know whether or not the cow died. They get back up within 10-20 minutes or so with most, giving the people time to escape.
I am with Andrew on that we have personal (or near-personal in my case) experiences. You don't. End of story.
It is just obvious cows from Kentucky have been tipped so much thru the ages, by natural selection (Edit: or by tip breeding) they have become resistant to it. Kentucky cows are a cow tipping breed. Important charateristics include the strange behavior of cows tipping themselves and each other.
tylor
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I brought it up for fun and it's turned into some kinda war or something!
I think that's something you could've expected on this board.
SO true!
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It is just obvious cows from Kentucky have been tipped so much thru the ages, by natural selection (Edit: or by tip breeding) they have become resistant to it. Kentucky cows are a cow tipping breed. Important charateristics include the strange behavior of cows tipping themselves and each other.
Haha! classic.
-Kev
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I brought it up for fun and it's turned into some kinda war or something!
I think that's something you could've expected on this board.
SO true!
It's more like something that you'd see on the O-Board. *scolds 'Holics* Shame on you! :spank:
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I brought it up for fun and it's turned into some kinda war or something!
I think that's something you could've expected on this board.
SO true!
It's more like something that you'd see on the O-Board. *scolds 'Holics* Shame on you! :spank:
*hangs head in shame* what'd I do??? :( hehe
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No no. Im not saying a cow will always get injured or die when it falls. I also never said cows sleep standing up..... Im not saying you will kill a cow if you tip it, Im jsut saying theres a good chance you're going to hurt or [keyword]possibly[/keyword] cause serious injury to the animal.
Hold on, one last point. Because what you say in THIS post, I would have let go and not argued with you ni the first place. Because it most assuridly is POSSIBLE for a cow to get injured. I just disputed probability.
Lets do a replay, shall we?
I said
They are not generally hurt by it
Then you said
Its about 800 pounds falling on bones that are unable to support that type of impact......It is possible to do but like others said its very dangerous and if you tip a cow you will most likely cause irreversible damage.
Then I said
NORMAL healthy CATTLE, especially dairy cattle, can fall over and it doesn't hurt them one bit
Then You said
Typically the cows die from shock or broken ribs
Then I said
I am giving you FIRST HAND accounts that I have NEVER seen a cow fall over and become seriously injured. I am not saying it is IMPOSSIBLE. I am disputing that it is LIKELY. Because, clearly, it isn't.
Then You said
I know clearly that your first hand experience is incorrect.
Then I said
I was simply stating my home of origin to give background to what ACTUALLY makes me familiar with the topic. Which would be having spend extensive time on three different farms with cattle.
Then You said
maybe someday you will take a five foot plunge in the middle of sleeping and then you can tell me it didnt hurt
Then I said
I don't THINK i am right because you have no evidence. I THINK I am right because I have SEEN IT FIRST HAND. If you want to show me that I am NOT right, then do so. But you the burden of proof is on YOU in that case.
Also, Cows don't sleep standing up. That's a common myth. So the whole "fall while sleeping thing" is null.
Then YOU said
Im not saying a cow will always get injured or die when it falls. I also never said cows sleep standing up.
(bolds added for emphasis)
And there ended the discussion to date.
So, from these quotes, which one of us is declaring facts about which he or she has no personal experience or information and which one of us is stating a simple personal experience? My initial statement is still completely valid. I simply spoke from personal direct first hand experience about what likely happens when a cow falls over. Then YOU made sweeping broad statements about what happens MOST of the time. Then when I pointed OUT that I was simply recounting my personal experience, your response was to tell me my personal experience was wrong?!? The only way my personal experience can be "wrong" is if I am lying.
Plus, yes... my personal experience will ALWAYS be more valuable than yours (if you are even saying you have directly seen a cow fall over and die). ALWAYS. Not because I am better than you. But because I am ME, and there is a 0 percent chance that I am lying to myself. However, there is atleast some small percent chance that you would lie or exagerate to me.
So your intitial POV was/is "if you tip a cow you will most likely cause irreversible damage" and "Typically the cows die from shock or broken ribs". So you said from statement ONE that a cow will get injured and die MOST ("Typically" and "most likely") of the time, but not ALL of the time?
I will not agree to this statement.
BUT, if you say
chances are the cow wont be injured
I will completely agree. I never disputed that it was possible for a Cow to be hurt when it falls over. IN FACT, if you read from my first post ON DOWN (check some of the bolds), I have been consistent in saying that it IS possible, but unlikely for a cow to get hurt. SO I agree with your last post completely.
And as for Holly, YES, I was insulting what he said. I know Pete is above that kind of behavior. Notice I did not call PETE Petty or immature. I called his statements such. Good people can say bad things, but that doesnt' make them bad people.
that looks pretty.....No! Id expect you know me well enough, it was for sheer debating purposes....i could care less about the cows lol(honestly i heard they are almost impossible to tip in the first place)
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my friends were over last night and we randomly started talking about cow tipping, lol, he brought it up and i thought of this thread
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MOO! 8O
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MOO! 8O
wow, ain't that the smartest remark ever made in this whole thread, and possibly even on this board!
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It is just obvious cows from Kentucky have been tipped so much thru the ages, by natural selection (Edit: or by tip breeding) they have become resistant to it. Kentucky cows are a cow tipping breed. Important charateristics include the strange behavior of cows tipping themselves and each other.
tylor
lolerskates.
<------ pwned.
Edit @ pete - Yeah dude. As I said, they are AWAKE and they are NOT happy about people coming up to them AT ALL, much less 14 year old kids RUNNING at them. And as I said, BULLS don't like it at ALL.
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It is just obvious cows from Kentucky have been tipped so much thru the ages, by natural selection (Edit: or by tip breeding) they have become resistant to it. Kentucky cows are a cow tipping breed. Important charateristics include the strange behavior of cows tipping themselves and each other.
tylor
lolerskates.
<------ pwned.
Edit @ pete - Yeah dude. As I said, they are AWAKE and they are NOT happy about people coming up to them AT ALL, much less 14 year old kids RUNNING at them. And as I said, BULLS don't like it at ALL.
i bet it would actually be a riot to see someone "try"