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As much as I get "depressed" (that is a semi-literal statement, not to offend anyone who is depressed.) I would not think about doing it.
It would be awful. I hurt, but I wouldn't make myself hurt more.
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Um.. This is a pretty stupid thread.
First of all, cutting yourself is not the way to go.
It just makes you look very.. attention starved.
So, no, I would never mutilate myself, nothing gives you the right to mutilate your body. Granted, one day I may get a tattoo.. still..
Don't do it cause you're depressed. Just, go outside, walk around.. GET A HOBBY.
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Unfortunately, it's not that easy.
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Oh, it's easy to get a hobby.
Sewing. Running. TEA. Make tea!
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I just show no sympathy for people who do it cause they say it 'takes the pain away'.
How does pain replace pain?
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It doesn't, it is a stimulation (most likely the wrong word) of that the inner pain that is felt through outer experience. It's a mental situation opposed to something that is easily controlled.
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Pours da fairy a cup of tea.
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my best friend was a cutter, and sometimes still slips. so i disagree with everything fairy said :-P i'm not going to knock your opinion or anything, but maybe because you've never been through it you don't know how intense it is......it took so much out of me and i wasn't even the one cutting! making her see that she was hurting everyone around her, that she was pushing everyone away, that she was slowly decaying in front of my eyes....at 14 it was hell for both of us, and 23495872394587 times worse for her. eventually i had to stop talking to her until she saw what she had become and what she had let it do to her. She's clinically depressed, cutting was something that felt good to her. She tried describing it to me once, she said that she didn't feel like she was conscious when she did it...like she'd be so relaxed and it'd feel so good to her...i can't even comprehend it. it was a cry for attention, but not for anyone but herself. she didn't realize her problems until she started doing it...that's when it all came out.
i guess what i'm trying to say is that i respect your opinion, but just remember you don't know what any situation is like until you've been through it, especially something as serious as this.
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my best friend was a cutter, and sometimes still slips. so i disagree with everything fairy said :-P i'm not going to knock your opinion or anything, but maybe because you've never been through it you don't know how intense it is......it took so much out of me and i wasn't even the one cutting! making her see that she was hurting everyone around her, that she was pushing everyone away, that she was slowly decaying in front of my eyes....at 14 it was hell for both of us, and 23495872394587 times worse for her. eventually i had to stop talking to her until she saw what she had become and what she had let it do to her. She's clinically depressed, cutting was something that felt good to her. She tried describing it to me once, she said that she didn't feel like she was conscious when she did it...like she'd be so relaxed and it'd feel so good to her...i can't even comprehend it. it was a cry for attention, but not from anyone else but herself. she didn't realize her problems until she started doing it...that's when it all came out.
i guess what i'm trying to say is that i respect your opinion, but just remember you don't know what any situation is like until you've been through it, especially something as serious as this.
That's so incredibly sad. But I think it's harder on the people watching their friends fall down than for the cutter themselves....just from personal experience...
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my best friend was a cutter, and sometimes still slips. so i disagree with everything fairy said :-P i'm not going to knock your opinion or anything, but maybe because you've never been through it you don't know how intense it is......it took so much out of me and i wasn't even the one cutting! making her see that she was hurting everyone around her, that she was pushing everyone away, that she was slowly decaying in front of my eyes....at 14 it was hell for both of us, and 23495872394587 times worse for her. eventually i had to stop talking to her until she saw what she had become and what she had let it do to her. She's clinically depressed, cutting was something that felt good to her. She tried describing it to me once, she said that she didn't feel like she was conscious when she did it...like she'd be so relaxed and it'd feel so good to her...i can't even comprehend it. it was a cry for attention, but not from anyone else but herself. she didn't realize her problems until she started doing it...that's when it all came out.
i guess what i'm trying to say is that i respect your opinion, but just remember you don't know what any situation is like until you've been through it, especially something as serious as this.
That's so incredibly sad. But I think it's harder on the people watching their friends fall down than for the cutter themselves....just from personal experience...
i've never been in the cutting position so i can't say, but i know it was so freaking hard for me...she just didn't see that what she was doing wrong, and we got in this huge fight in the library and just...ugh. badness. but she's ok now, which is good.
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Have you ever self mutilated yourself?
Of course not, don't be silly...I'd never do anything so repulsive.
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Definatly not.
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Um.. This is a pretty stupid thread.
First of all, cutting yourself is not the way to go.
It just makes you look very.. attention starved.
So, no, I would never mutilate myself, nothing gives you the right to mutilate your body. Granted, one day I may get a tattoo.. still..
Don't do it cause you're depressed. Just, go outside, walk around.. GET A HOBBY.
Okay, you are clearly very naieve. I've never considered cutting myself but even I can see how stupid that comment is. 'Attention starved'? People crave attention for a reason. If you think depression is solved as easily as going outside and getting a hobby then you are sorely mistaken.
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Um.. This is a pretty stupid thread.
First of all, cutting yourself is not the way to go.
It just makes you look very.. attention starved.
So, no, I would never mutilate myself, nothing gives you the right to mutilate your body. Granted, one day I may get a tattoo.. still..
Don't do it cause you're depressed. Just, go outside, walk around.. GET A HOBBY.
Okay, you are clearly very naieve. I've never considered cutting myself but even I can see how stupid that comment is. 'Attention starved'? People crave attention for a reason. If you think depression is solved as easily as going outside and getting a hobby then you are sorely mistaken.
agreed
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Have you ever self mutilated yourself?
Of course not, don't be silly...I'd never do anything so repulsive.
People who do it can't help but do it. Just like alcoholism, drug, and prescription drug abuse . . . Once you start, you can't stop 'til you go to rehab with a bunch of bitches being over-paid because of your sickness. So, don't pretend like you're better than these people with no sense of self-discipline or restraint; they can't help themselves. It's normal to them, it's like brushing your teeth or showering or getting dressed, it fits in with the daily routine.
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I just show no sympathy for people who do it cause they say it 'takes the pain away'.
How does pain replace pain?
pain DOESN'T replace pain.
it's like penance, hurting yourself as punishment for the "bad things" you've done.
i've never done it, but my best friend hacked up her wrists with a steak knife once. it scared the living shit out of me and it's not something to be taken lightly ("make tea-- that's a good hobby!" :roll: ).
there was a point when i felt the same way as Fairy (about self-mutilation as well as suicide), and then she cut herself and my opinion changed. however, i still felt the same about suicide. However, i got to the point very recently where i considered it myself, and now i don't even come close to thinking of it like that. i think suicide is not the answer, but it's also brought about by a very real, very scary condition called depression (which i have), and it's very difficult to overcome feelings you have when you're depressed. the sad thing is that so many kids have feelings of depression and aren't getting the proper treatment, so suicide and self-mutilation are only going to increase in teenagers :cry:
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Have you ever self mutilated yourself?
Of course not, don't be silly...I'd never do anything so repulsive.
People who do it can't help but do it. Just like alcoholism, drug, and prescription drug abuse . . . Once you start, you can't stop 'til you go to rehab with a bunch of bitches being over-paid because of your sickness. So, don't pretend like you're better than these people with no sense of self-discipline or restraint; they can't help themselves. It's normal to them, it's like brushing your teeth or showering or getting dressed, it fits in with the daily routine.
I was just kidding...I just like the word "repulsive." I know there are people who do it and stuff. And I didn't say I was better than them.
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Well, Don't assume I haven't been through it, with friends, myself, or family.
I've been throught quite a lot.
Most of you are young, and you'll learn more a little later, I suppose. It's sad to see stuff like this, even topics like this.
*MAKES TEA.*
Anything can be a hobby. I swearaserre *swear* it.
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Well, Don't assume I haven't been through it, with friends, myself, or family.
I've been throught quite a lot.
Most of you are young, and you'll learn more a little later, I suppose. It's sad to see stuff like this, even topics like this.
*MAKES TEA.*
Anything can be a hobby. I swearaserre *swear* it.
We're young? Is that your way of trying to say we're right? My dad has manic depression and had a breakdown when i was young- it personally insults me to see you make comments like 'go and get a hobby'. Moreover, if 'you've been through quite a lot' (which i don't doubt) then i'd expect you to be far more understanding of the complex factors that are involved in mental illness and self mutilating. Argue all you like against it- but don't use 'you're young' as an excuse- its pathetic.
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ok, i was wrong to assume that you've never been through that kind of stuff, but your post didn't help....yes anything can be a hobby, but when you have something mentally wrong with you your decision of what's a good hobby can be different. everyone's different, we all handle situations differently....and we all need to just understand that. ok that sounded really corny, but hell it's the truth. i think it's very unfair for anyone to say that something is stupid when they don't know the situation. There are people in my school who proclaim the fact that they cut, who would fit under the category of attention starved. those people i know for a fact are not depressed and do it for attention. but there are others who cut because they are depressed, because they see no other option, and because they are going through something that no one of mental health can understand. that's just how it is, whether you agree with what they're doing or not.
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Most people who just do it because they are sad cut the top of their arms which is actually a relatively unsensitive area is something ive noticed.....IDK i never understood the whole cut yourself thing. I cut my arm with a razor once when i was like 13ish for really no reason at all, still have a little scar, but whenever i get really mad i just tend to swear at things ;p
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Well, Don't assume I haven't been through it, with friends, myself, or family.
I've been throught quite a lot.
Most of you are young, and you'll learn more a little later, I suppose. It's sad to see stuff like this, even topics like this.
*MAKES TEA.*
Anything can be a hobby. I swearaserre *swear* it.
We're young? Is that your way of trying to say we're right? My dad has manic depression and had a breakdown when i was young- it personally insults me to see you make comments like 'go and get a hobby'. Moreover, if 'you've been through quite a lot' (which i don't doubt) then i'd expect you to be far more understanding of the complex factors that are involved in mental illness and self mutilating. Argue all you like against it- but don't use 'you're young' as an excuse- its pathetic.
i agree. age has nothing to do with whether you know about something or not....i was 14 when my best friend started cutting, does that mean that i didn't know what was happening? it made me grow up so much more, so i'd have to disagree with the you're too young argument. age means nothing, it's just what you experience. yes, experiences come with time, but some people experience things earlier than others.
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im not joining the argument here but i do believe some people act depressed just for attention.
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im not joining the argument here but i do believe some people act depressed just for attention.
just ask some of the people in my school :roll: cannot wait for graduation!
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im not joining the argument here but i do believe some people act depressed just for attention.
Yea, I should make myself more clear, before people decide to hand me my ass.
Ya see, I totally understand being depressed, etc etc. All that hooplah(take offense, oh well).
But, the you're young part isn't directed at people who have serious problems. Some people can't help it, and I am aware of that.
but, I do not feel for people who do it for attention. I've been in institutions where people are hopsitalized for this sort of thing. I wasn't there for self mutilation, or trying to kill myself. I had a drug problem, and was unable to be in the other ward. I understand, so more of less the whole problem I see with it is if people use it to gain attention. No way am I going to be proud enough of cutting myself to do it so people can see, so that way I can bring up at the lunch table with my friends how "my mom saw my cuts"..
yea...
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I do kind of get your point- people who go on about their depression when all they have is a bit of teenage agnst (that insults me too!) when people are going through real serious shit in their lives. However, what i don't agree with is the fact that a lot of the time attention seeking has a REAL reason behind it and you don't seem to see that.
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I've never cut myself... But, I suspect, like most other people that are down/depressed I've thought about it. And about comitting suicide etc.
I never actually did...but I always thought the people that had the 'guts to do it' were somehow the brave ones. It took me a while to realize, but now I see - those things are a cowards way out. The hardest thing about this world, is to live in it. And I'm determined to do that and do it well.
I'm officially no longer depressed - can you tell? :wink:
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lol i wish you had said this in the beginning :-P the people in my school who are all "hey look at my cut on my wrist isn't it cool!?!?" - yeah, they're not depressed, they're just annoying. i know they're not depressed, they know, everyone knows it, they just do it because they think they're goth. and it's annoying. and i take offense to it because, like you said, there are people who really are depressed out there. so i agree with you about people who do it just for shits and giggles.
but the people i know who've cut themselves because of depression have never been proud of their cuts, or even that ashamed...they accept them. my best friend even liked them. they were a comfort to her. this is something i will never understand...
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That reminded me of the end of UIACC - "Then it's over, in a flash. And I'll never, ever understand understanding in a car crash."
But yeah . . . The part about age, it really pisses me off (I kno Fairy didn't say this, but it just reminded me) when people try to hide things from people and shit or they think they won't understand because they're young. I mean, what is that? You know - I gew up with an alcoholic. I've experienced that, death, divorce, every form of loss, and there are so many people, probably the majority of US kids who have experienced the same if not WORSE than that, but people are still convinced that kids should be sheltered; but why shelter someone from the world when the problem is in their home? Ehhh . . .
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i love attention, im just to boring to ever really get much :lol:
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Most of you are young, and you'll learn more a little later, I suppose. It's sad to see stuff like this, even topics like this.
excuse me? you're eighteen. newsflash: you're young, too. besides, several of us are the same age as you or only a year or two younger.
my best friend was thirteen when she started cutting herself, and i was TEN when i became clinically depressed. age is NOTHING. mental and emotional pain can be experienced at ANY age.
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irony
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age is NOTHING. mental and emotional pain can be experienced at ANY age.
Amen.
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irony
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a thread about people getting upset and cutting themselves, full of people getting upset.
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a thread about people getting upset and cutting themselves, full of people getting upset.
As much as I hate to admit it, he has a point LOL!
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First off, I've never cut myself, and this thread is sort of getting out of hand.
I have experienced, first hand, a friend who went through the terrible act of self-mutilation. It is a bad thing, which she has stopped, but it was very scary for me to watch her do this to herself, and I talked to her. She seemed very comfortable with talking to me about it. I had no idea what she was going through. Someone she really liked was really mean to her, people made fun of her, and her friends were turning on her back. For a while, I thought she was doing this for attention and to get her friends back, but after talking to her, I realized that people do not do this for attention. She told me that she experiences so much pain. No, not physical, emotional. She told me it was pain I could not imagine. She had been going through a lot, too much for the time she had had to put up with it. What would happen, is she would experience so much pain, and it hurt her so much emotionally, that she would have to cut herself to distract herself from the pain. "It hurt a lot" she said, and after the pain wore away, she would feel the emotional pain, and would have to cut herself harder. She became addicted, like one would to drugs, porn, alcohol, tobacco, or gambling (like Cece said). It was hard for me to watch her do this, and it pains me to read people say something as insensitive and immature for her age to say "Go get a hobby". Depresssion is an awful thing, but for those who have it, all we can do it is help them. Depression is a psychological problem, and is something that people have no control. And no, they can't just ignore what people say, it's beyond that. Some people may be able to, but not everyone is the same, and we have to respect that and respect anyone who cuts themselves too, because it is beyond their help.
I am leaving with that.
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ok not to offend anyone but i don't see how this topic is getting out of hand - it's a serious issue and is going to be talked about seriously. it's something that should be talked about, people should be aware that this is happening. as far as i can tell no ones gotten seriously enraged by a certain post - but that could just be me :-P
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well today i was in geometry and i accidently stabbed myself with a pencil.
it hurt
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no, I didn ot self mutiliate myself...but I did try and commit suicide.
Manda
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i don't see how it's getting out of hand, either.
it just happens to be a serious topic.
teen depression is a problem that desperately needs a solution.
sweeping it under the rug doesn't help.
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First off, I've never cut myself, and this thread is sort of getting out of hand.
I have experienced, first hand, a friend who went through the terrible act of self-mutilation. It is a bad thing, which she has stopped, but it was very scary for me to watch her do this to herself, and I talked to her. She seemed very comfortable with talking to me about it. I had no idea what she was going through. Someone she really liked was really mean to her, people made fun of her, and her friends were turning on her back. For a while, I thought she was doing this for attention and to get her friends back, but after talking to her, I realized that people do not do this for attention. She told me that she experiences so much pain. No, not physical, emotional. She told me it was pain I could not imagine. She had been going through a lot, too much for the time she had had to put up with it. What would happen, is she would experience so much pain, and it hurt her so much emotionally, that she would have to cut herself to distract herself from the pain. "It hurt a lot" she said, and after the pain wore away, she would feel the emotional pain, and would have to cut herself harder. She became addicted, like one would to drugs, porn, alcohol, tobacco, or gambling (like Cece said). It was hard for me to watch her do this, and it pains me to read people say something as insensitive and immature for her age to say "Go get a hobby". Depresssion is an awful thing, but for those who have it, all we can do it is help them. Depression is a psychological problem, and is something that people have no control. And no, they can't just ignore what people say, it's beyond that. Some people may be able to, but not everyone is the same, and we have to respect that and respect anyone who cuts themselves too, because it is beyond their help.
I am leaving with that.
O - O Mandy Moore - Drop The Pilot
AHH!!! You're listening to Mandy Moore! I luvv Manders.
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First off, I've never cut myself, and this thread is sort of getting out of hand.
I have experienced, first hand, a friend who went through the terrible act of self-mutilation. It is a bad thing, which she has stopped, but it was very scary for me to watch her do this to herself, and I talked to her. She seemed very comfortable with talking to me about it. I had no idea what she was going through. Someone she really liked was really mean to her, people made fun of her, and her friends were turning on her back. For a while, I thought she was doing this for attention and to get her friends back, but after talking to her, I realized that people do not do this for attention. She told me that she experiences so much pain. No, not physical, emotional. She told me it was pain I could not imagine. She had been going through a lot, too much for the time she had had to put up with it. What would happen, is she would experience so much pain, and it hurt her so much emotionally, that she would have to cut herself to distract herself from the pain. "It hurt a lot" she said, and after the pain wore away, she would feel the emotional pain, and would have to cut herself harder. She became addicted, like one would to drugs, porn, alcohol, tobacco, or gambling (like Cece said). It was hard for me to watch her do this, and it pains me to read people say something as insensitive and immature for her age to say "Go get a hobby". Depresssion is an awful thing, but for those who have it, all we can do it is help them. Depression is a psychological problem, and is something that people have no control. And no, they can't just ignore what people say, it's beyond that. Some people may be able to, but not everyone is the same, and we have to respect that and respect anyone who cuts themselves too, because it is beyond their help.
I am leaving with that.
O - O Mandy Moore - Drop The Pilot
AHH!!! You're listening to Mandy Moore! I luvv Manders.
Lol, she's my 4th favorite artist ever.
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i don't see how it's getting out of hand, either.
it just happens to be a serious topic.
teen depression is a problem that desperately needs a solution.
sweeping it under the rug doesn't help.
my thoughts exactly! I even got my health teacher to work cutting in as a sign and form of depression when she teaches depression!
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i don't see how it's getting out of hand, either.
it just happens to be a serious topic.
teen depression is a problem that desperately needs a solution.
sweeping it under the rug doesn't help.
I blame the stupid test they make us take!
AHHHH OMG THEY MAKE ME INSANE....
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Most of you are young, and you'll learn more a little later, I suppose. It's sad to see stuff like this, even topics like this.
excuse me? you're eighteen. newsflash: you're young, too. besides, several of us are the same age as you or only a year or two younger.
my best friend was thirteen when she started cutting herself, and i was TEN when i became clinically depressed. age is NOTHING. mental and emotional pain can be experienced at ANY age.
no i'm not. I'm 40. I like small..
..bags of tea.
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no i'm not. I'm 40. I like small..
..bags of tea.
Umm....So you like, lied about your age?
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no i'm not. I'm 40. I like small..
..bags of tea.
Umm....So you like, lied about your age?
For the sake of your dignity: I hope that was a joke.
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i sure as hell hope so.
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Duh! Of course it was a joke! :lol:
No but honestly, I wasn't joking...I don't get why you guys said that...:oops:
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ive suffered with depression but the only thing that hurts me now is that i missed out on a lot of things :?
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ive suffered with depression but the only thing that hurts me now is that i missed out on a lot of things :?
i feel the same way... it's especially hitting me now how much i missed out on
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yep, know the feeling.
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it's hard to understand... but physical pain does help cover up emotional pain when it's that bad. or atleast it helps you forget about it for a little while.
I did it about every day for 2 years... stopping a year ago. i can't explain why i did it... i was just in a stage where i wasnt thinking straight. when you get very very deeply depressed you dont know what to do and you'd do anything to escape from that feeling. I dont even know what i was thinking... and it's something i'd NEVER do again, cause I know how bad it can get... you just keep going deeper down till you get help, luckily i got help in time.
but in any sense, self mutilation is NEVER the way to go... it just makes things worse and sometimes you can't tell till it's too late. and plus, once you start, it becomes an addiction that is hard to quit. it's a scary state to be in.
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I have.
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<---- former cutter
back in middle school... still have minor scars