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Vanessa Carlton => General Vanessa Carlton Discussion => Topic started by: Manda on September 28, 2004, 08:09:15 pm
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their is a thread on the VCMB that you can download the files, convert them, and listen to them.
If its true its AWFUL! :evil:
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Why is it awful? I'm quite happy about it. :) I'm an impatient mofo.
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umm, yeah. they did. and we like... uhh, all have the songs now. i admit, i DLed them... and they are awesome.
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their is a thread on the VCMB that you can download the files, convert them, and listen to them.
If its true its AWFUL! :evil:
I'm rather disappointed as well.
Put yourself in Vanessa's shoes. Yeah, I'm sure she'll be happy that we all like it, but we all basically totally disrespected her by downloading it and listening to it before she was ready to have it released.
*shrug*
I realize I'm in the minority of course...whatever
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Put yourself in Vanessa's shoes. Yeah, I'm sure she'll be happy that we all like it, but we all basically totally disrespected her by downloading it and listening to it before she was ready to have it released.
Dont get me wrong, I felt really bad DLing the songs. It just felt wrong. But if they were there, I just couldn't resist NOT downloading them. I mean, I could have waited till the album came out, but I would have bought the thing no matter what, so I don't really see the difference, at least in my case.
It just really sucks if people are just going to download the thing and not buy it. In that respect, having the album online is horrible.
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Put yourself in Vanessa's shoes. Yeah, I'm sure she'll be happy that we all like it, but we all basically totally disrespected her by downloading it and listening to it before she was ready to have it released.
It was ready to be released a week ago Sept 21, then label pushes it back 2 month for what they think will be better sales strategy which in truth hurts the CD more than helps (its up against Brit & eminem for fuck sake). CD was done, put it out. So instead the leaks are put out on time, while we wait for the CD Nov 9th.
When leaks arrive like a week before a CD streets, I'll hold off till I have the real thing, but 2 months is just industry bullshit.
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their is a thread on the VCMB that you can download the files, convert them, and listen to them.
If its true its AWFUL! :evil:
I'm rather disappointed as well.
Put yourself in Vanessa's shoes. Yeah, I'm sure she'll be happy that we all like it, but we all basically totally disrespected her by downloading it and listening to it before she was ready to have it released.
*shrug*
I realize I'm in the minority of course...whatever
I think it's disrespecting her if you don't intend to buy it when it's released but since everyone here intends to I don't think it is. I'm pretty sure she'd probably want it out earlier than later but the label dictates that too. I haven't listened yet but I'm just worried I'm gonna wet myself if I do so it's a hygiene issue with me. I'm probably going to listen to one track a day like most crack addicts. :lol:
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Well, like I said, it's just an opinion.
Industry bullshit or not.
Maybe this will force an early release like with all those freaking hiphop albums that get leaked.
Plus, with the leakage, I know a lot of fans aren't going to be concerned with buying the album right when it comes out, which means lower first week sales. BnN debuted at 5, I just think this leak hurts her changes of surpassing that.
I, on the other hand, plan to be first in line to get the CD regardless, but I know a lot of people aren't freaks like me
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I haven't listened yet but I'm just worried I'm gonna wet myself if I do so it's a hygiene issue with me.
Rofl!
Maybe this will force an early release like with all those freaking hiphop albums that get leaked.
An early release? That would be nice :)
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*drools*
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I, on the other hand, plan to be first in line to get the CD regardless, but I know a lot of people aren't freaks like me
Dude, 12:03 am. I still have my receipt from 4/30/02!!
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I, on the other hand, plan to be first in line to get the CD regardless, but I know a lot of people aren't freaks like me
I dont know about that... I know I am going to be one of those crazies in line... I've already been trying to figure out where the closest CD store is (say yay for UConn being in the middle of nowhere!) and how the heck I can get there (and bigger yay for having no car!)... I swear, I've been like begging people with cars to take me to get it, I will pay them! I will do favors for them! Be their slave forever!
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I, on the other hand, plan to be first in line to get the CD regardless, but I know a lot of people aren't freaks like me
I dont know about that... I know I am going to be one of those crazies in line... I've already been trying to figure out where the closest CD store is (say yay for UConn being in the middle of nowhere!) and how the heck I can get there (and bigger yay for having no car!)... I swear, I've been like begging people with cars to take me to get it, I will pay them! I will do favors for them! Be their slave forever!
lol i don't have a car either Em, and Elmira is ghetto so i don't walk anywhere by myself, so i usually just beg someone i know with a car to have them take me places :-P I already have my ride lined up though :razz: when i was meeting people on the floor i would look at their cds (if they had them out) and one girl had BnN, so i asked her right then if she would take me to get Harmonium, lol
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lucky you! i dont know too many people that like vanessa and have a car as well. well, i dont know too many people that have a car, period. my one friend that actually does, is totally convinced that the beginning of white houses sounds like a little kids song... but I dont know, i might still be able to convince her to take me, with a lot of begging and a little bit of i'll pay you money to take me, hahaha.
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I, on the other hand, plan to be first in line to get the CD regardless, but I know a lot of people aren't freaks like me
I will be at Best Buy 10am like "Holla!" like I did with Hotel Paper, even though we got that early, too. LOL.
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I just order online. Too much of a hassle to go to the only city in the county with record stores.
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lucky you! i dont know too many people that like vanessa and have a car as well. well, i dont know too many people that have a car, period. my one friend that actually does, is totally convinced that the beginning of white houses sounds like a little kids song... but I dont know, i might still be able to convince her to take me, with a lot of begging and a little bit of i'll pay you money to take me, hahaha.
is there a walmart or something like that nearby? because here usually if you have to go to walmart you just find someone else that has to do for some reason or another and make a trip of it :-P fun times, fun times
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hmm... thats true. there is supposed to be a walmart somewhere around here, but to be honest with you, i really have no clue where i am... i should ask kelley, she probably knows the area better than I do.
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hmm... thats true. there is supposed to be a walmart somewhere around here, but to be honest with you, i really have no clue where i am... i should ask kelley, she probably knows the area better than I do.
lmao, don't worry, i hardly know Elmira either. Not that there's too much to know, there's the Library, the Clemens Center (saw Tap Dogs Rebooted there tonight, suuuch a good show), and the local crack house :razz:
but yeah, walmarts the shizzz.
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local crack house, rofl. i have been off campus like once, last week. my mom came up, and i'm just like, okay, lets go randomly driving around. haha, and we found a little mall that was so small it was like a joke to call it a mall. kind of like that mall in oneonta.
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local crack house, rofl. i have been off campus like once, last week. my mom came up, and i'm just like, okay, lets go randomly driving around. haha, and we found a little mall that was so small it was like a joke to call it a mall. kind of like that mall in oneonta.
The Small! i heart that tiny little thing! Lol. anyways, seriously, if you came to Elmira you would know. The first week of classes two guys got jumped at Wilson Farms, which is like 2 steps off campus, there have been two shootings in the past three weeks....it's just bad :-P not bad enough to classify it as ghetto, but pretty damn close, lol
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I broke down and decided to listen to the songs I've already heard first to lessen the leakage. I'm still not decided on the others yet. Just listened to Papa. I'm stopping there tonight. Still dry. :lol:
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so i just listened to the whole thing. i love it! the wreckage, private radio, and streets have no name are my favorite - and i'm totally digging the screaming and choir in the background of she floats!
and yes, you can bet that on November 9th i will be at walmart buying two copies of Harmonium - one for me and one as a back up or for Vanessa to sign if i get to meet her again.
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i'll prolly buy like ten. and be like, oh yeah, presents for everyone!
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If you see a downloader use the words "intend to buy", it means they aren't inclined to buy. If there were no such thing as downloading, "intend" wouldn't be your vocabulary in regards to buying V's record. You'd be beating down the door to buy V's record.
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If you see a downloader use the words "intend to buy", it means they aren't inclined to buy. If there were no such thing as downloading, "intend" wouldn't be your vocabulary in regards to buying V's record. You'd be beating down the door to buy V's record.
How do you figure? You really think word choice is that clear of an indicator of inclination? I've used that language and I placed my order for the CD today.
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If Vanessa didn't want her CD to leak, she should have done what Eminem is doing and finished it a week before it's release date. The album was pushed back to November which is just murder-suicide as BV pointed out going up against Eminem and Britney, so apparently her label doesn't give a shit.
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Crap the boards are down....I wanted to download the songs.
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I do agree the leak prolly won't help, but there is no stopping it now. All you can do is buy the CD on the day it comes out and hope she gets good results.
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I haven't DLed the files yet. It is soooo hard not too. I'm going to try and wait. I don't know if that is impossible.
tylor
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I really get your point Tricia but I would have to wait at least a fortnight more than everyone to get the CD. Its so painful seeing everyone write about how great it is, and how they queued up for hours to get it- so this is reassurance for me, and i'm sure many other overseas fans. But you can guarantee i'm buying at least 2 copies in the first week anyway.
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I feel bad for her.
That's all.
I haven't listened yet, and I think I might not.
I just want to pop the finished product in to my big stereo and immerse myself.
I've waited really since 4/30/02. Two more months won't kill me.
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Yeah, i feel bad for her too- because its not even her fault it got pushed back so much. I just hope it'll be a success anyway. Hmmmm.
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I agree with Tricia that it's disrespecting Vanessa, but I know for a fact i'll be buying atleast 3 copies of Harmonium so it's more like a preview i guess. A & M shouldn't have released a leak if they didn't want it heard. You all remember BNN, those of you who were around, it was leaked a week early at most and I waited as did most of you which is where I agree with Kevin 2 months is 2 months and that's just bull! If the cd is ready release it, why make people wait!
Mike
The one and only Lostdwarf
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their is a thread on the VCMB that you can download the files, convert them, and listen to them.
If its true its AWFUL! :evil:
I'm rather disappointed as well.
Put yourself in Vanessa's shoes. Yeah, I'm sure she'll be happy that we all like it, but we all basically totally disrespected her by downloading it and listening to it before she was ready to have it released.
*shrug*
I realize I'm in the minority of course...whatever
I totally understand what you're saying, Tricia. But at the same time, I agree with BV. The album IS ready to be released, and Nessa has apologized for the delays and it seems as if she was perfectly content with the October date. I don't think downloading the songs is disrespecting her AS LONG AS you purchase the album when it comes out. Unfortunately, we know the Nessaholics will all do this, but the general public is a completely different story. Poor Nessa... It really sucks. I could've waited if there wasn't a leak (I'd HAVE to, of course, but I'd've been patient and all that) but I'm too weak not to download it... I just hope this doesn't destroy the chances of success :(
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Mike, I doubt A&M purposely put out a leak.
That's not usually their goal...
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someone else said that BNN was leaked early aswel , that has never been an obstacle if you look at how well it did
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someone else said that BNN was leaked early aswel , that has never been an obstacle if you look at how well it did
Not entirely true. It was released one week early for the "street team" to stream on the internet. The street team 1) wasn't well known so most people *who weren't obsessed with the VCMB* didn't know about it 2) didn't offer mp3s and 3) only put out the leak a week early.
One week and two months are two totally completely different things.
And the fact that it was Vanessa's own official street team putting out the stream is also a bit of a difference.
Whatever.
I'm not trying to change anyone's minds, I'm just pointing out what I feel should be pretty damn obvious.
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DISCLAIMER : I am going straight from school *shakes fist at school* to Best Buy. I am going to buy 3 copies.
EDIT : If you are one of these people who want to wait and are all anti-leak, don't read this. Yeah, I feel really bad for her, and I'm mad at myself for downloading it, but it SHOULD have been released September 21st, so I am mad at the label for continually pushing it back.
Anyway, CLV is my new favorite song! AHHHH, I didn't like it very much at all before, but they pimped it, and it rocks! I know a few people disagree, but I have fallen in love with it.
Private Radio also owns. I hope this is the 2nd single.
White Houses.... well duh.
Afterglow rox0rs teh big one!!!!111
She Floats is long and kinda boring, but I love it anyway. The screaming in the middle was just reeeeeally uncalled for.
Papa sounds the same... I am kinda mad that they didn't add orchestration at all. But it's still my favorite Vanessa song EVER.
Winter rocks. End of freaking story.
That's the only songs that I have REALLY familiarized myself with.
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I am going straight from school *shakes fist at school* to Best Buy. I am going to buy 3 copies.
Anyway, CLV is my new favorite song! AHHHH, I didn't like it very much at all before, but they pimped it, and it rocks! I know a few people disagree, but I have fallen in love with it.
Private Radio also owns. I hope this is the 2nd single.
White Houses.... well duh.
She Floats is long and kinda boring, but I love it anyway. The screaming in the middle was just reeeeeally uncalled for.
Papa sounds the same... I am kinda mad that they didn't add orchestration at all. But it's still my favorite Vanessa song EVER.
Winter rocks. End of freaking story.
That's the only songs that I have REALLY familiarized myself with.
I agree with the first four statements (well, five, if you count Best Buy), but Papa I'm seriously disappointed in... It sounds the same only not as good. It would've be SO fucking sweet if she would've added like a string ensemble. And Winter I'm not really digging but we shall see.
C'est la Vie. Is. Amazing. I LOVE what she did with it.
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your right Tricia and i just realized that, why would A & M try to hurt Van. No matter how you look at it, it's horrible it was releaed like this, But I mean once again as Kev said it's ready to be released, maybe this will teach A & M to be more precise in when they want to target a high selling album, and release it when it's ready. I mean there's nothing anyone can do now, it's leaked and we'll just have to see what happens
Mike
The one and only Lostdwarf
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your right Tricia and i just realized that, why would A & M try to hurt Van. No matter how you look at it, it's horrible it was releaed like this, But I mean once again as Kev said it's ready to be released, maybe this will teach A & M to be more precise in when they want to target a high selling album, and release it when it's ready. I mean there's nothing anyone can do now, it's leaked and we'll just have to see what happens
Mike
The one and only Lostdwarf
I say we hunt down whoever the hell did it... :twisted:
I hope none of y'all get me wrong. I downloaded the album but I completely agree that this whole situation is horrible.
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Well, like I said, it's just an opinion.
Industry bullshit or not.
Maybe this will force an early release like with all those freaking hiphop albums that get leaked.
Plus, with the leakage, I know a lot of fans aren't going to be concerned with buying the album right when it comes out, which means lower first week sales. BnN debuted at 5, I just think this leak hurts her changes of surpassing that.
I, on the other hand, plan to be first in line to get the CD regardless, but I know a lot of people aren't freaks like me
I think people will still buy it....doesn't come with that DVD?? people would buy it cause it comes with that....
but it does suck it was leaked....
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Something weird came to mind when I heard Private Radio, i've heard it before. It was at the 4/27/03 show. Me and Katia snuck into the warm up rehearsal and she played maybe like a minute and half of Private Radio, it was a lil different but had the badha bah in the beginning thats how i remembered it. I'm soooooooooo glad it made the album! :D
Mike
The one and only Lostdwarf
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Well, like I said, it's just an opinion.
Industry bullshit or not.
Maybe this will force an early release like with all those freaking hiphop albums that get leaked.
Plus, with the leakage, I know a lot of fans aren't going to be concerned with buying the album right when it comes out, which means lower first week sales. BnN debuted at 5, I just think this leak hurts her changes of surpassing that.
I, on the other hand, plan to be first in line to get the CD regardless, but I know a lot of people aren't freaks like me
I think people will still buy it....doesn't come with that DVD?? people would buy it cause it comes with that....
Assuming the public cares about that... If they're not really familiar w/V they could probably give two shits...
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Something weird came to mind when I heard Private Radio, i've heard it before. It was at the 4/27/03 show. Me and Katia snuck into the warm up rehearsal and she played maybe like a minute and half of Private Radio, it was a lil different but had the badha bah in the beginning thats how i remembered it. I'm soooooooooo glad it made the album! :D
Mike
The one and only Lostdwarf
That's awesome! I'm glad to see you back on the board again! We missed you!
Anyway, I think that the leak for this album will be sorta downplayed. I mean... a lot of the people who buy her albums are people who like her music. That doesn't necassarily mean that they get on the VCMB or this forum. It won't make newspapers, it won't make MTV News. I'd say only 1/100 of the people who buy her albums are NESSAholics or people on the VCMB. So, if they don't get onto the internet to regularly check her site and forum, I don't think they will even know that it's been leaked.
Just my thoughts
-Joey
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Well, like I said, it's just an opinion.
Industry bullshit or not.
Maybe this will force an early release like with all those freaking hiphop albums that get leaked.
Plus, with the leakage, I know a lot of fans aren't going to be concerned with buying the album right when it comes out, which means lower first week sales. BnN debuted at 5, I just think this leak hurts her changes of surpassing that.
I, on the other hand, plan to be first in line to get the CD regardless, but I know a lot of people aren't freaks like me
I think people will still buy it....doesn't come with that DVD?? people would buy it cause it comes with that....
Assuming the public cares about that... If they're not really familiar w/V they could probably give two shits...
good point....
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"the world has gone to bed and im drowning in silence, but there's still a song in my head"
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Personally, I'm glad I did get the leak because I'm not really that impressed by this album. Hopefully, in the US release "Papa" and "CLV" are dropped and some of the other songs are retooled.
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It was ready to be released a week ago Sept 21, then label pushes it back 2 month for what they think will be better sales strategy which in truth hurts the CD more than helps (its up against Brit & eminem for fuck sake). CD was done, put it out. So instead the leaks are put out on time, while we wait for the CD Nov 9th.
I agree with BV on this one. Why push it back so much??
It was inevitable that it was gonna leak sooner or later before the release date. Leaks always happen nowadays.
I'm always impatient, so I downloaded the whole thing already. Haven't listened to it yet but I will do it in a few.
I don't feel guilty at all, I'm buying like 3 copies of it (both Japanese releases w/ and w/o the dvd and the US one) and they are already pre-ordered.
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THE THREAD ON THE O-BOARD HAS FINALLY BEEN REMOVED
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i deleted the thread on the o board to make people happy. Cant do anything about the other forum though. Lets just be reasonable, the album leaked, we get to hear it, its not that bad. Im sure sales will do just fine, its worth the money, and i know im buying it
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i deleted the thread on the o board to make people happy. Cant do anything about the other forum though. Lets just be reasonable, the album leaked, we get to hear it, its not that bad. Im sure sales will do just fine, its worth the money, and i know im buying it
Exactly :D
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...I don't feel guilty at all, I'm buying like 3 copies of it (both Japanese releases w/ and w/o the dvd and the US one) and they are already pre-ordered.
Why on earth would anyone do that?
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Well, like I said, it's just an opinion.
Industry bullshit or not.
Maybe this will force an early release like with all those freaking hiphop albums that get leaked.
Plus, with the leakage, I know a lot of fans aren't going to be concerned with buying the album right when it comes out, which means lower first week sales. BnN debuted at 5, I just think this leak hurts her changes of surpassing that.
I, on the other hand, plan to be first in line to get the CD regardless, but I know a lot of people aren't freaks like me
I know the feeling. I am going to wait until the CD gets released or streamed (with authorization) to listen to the songs. I am tempted to seek out the songs that may not make it onto the US release, but I will try to hold back b/c IMO I feel that is the right thing to do.
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i couldnt resist, but it was worth it
im ordering my copy on friday anyway :D theres no chance i wouldnt get it :D
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just by using google i have found 4 places to download the full album in mp3, ogg, wma, and rma format. So deleting the thread was really pointless
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i deleted the thread on the o board to make people happy. Cant do anything about the other forum though. Lets just be reasonable, the album leaked, we get to hear it, its not that bad. Im sure sales will do just fine, its worth the money, and i know im buying it
this was perfectly stated.
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Here is a good site to view the lyrics and listen to the audio for Harmonium:
Harmonium (http://www.harmonium.qc.ca/harmonium.html)
tylor
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Here is a good site to view the lyrics and listen to the audio for Harmonium:
Harmonium (http://www.harmonium.qc.ca/harmonium.html)
tylor
best album EVERRRRR
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Here is a good site to view the lyrics and listen to the audio for Harmonium:
Harmonium (http://www.harmonium.qc.ca/harmonium.html)
tylor
Totally rocks!! I'm loving it!~
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...I don't feel guilty at all, I'm buying like 3 copies of it (both Japanese releases w/ and w/o the dvd and the US one) and they are already pre-ordered.
Why on earth would anyone do that?
Because I collect VC's cds 8)
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I'm buying like 3 copies of it
collection,cd player, spare??
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I'll be buying 3 copies as well
1 for the house, 1 for the car, and one for Van to sign
Mike
the one and only Lostdwarf
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ill be buying just the one lol, ill just copy it for different places, like my dads house and stuff and his car
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i'll just be buying one....thats all i need...
STREETS HAVE NO NAME....YEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHH
i love that song
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I'm buying more than one copy also.
tylor
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lol tis a great song
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I didn't think she was doing another cover song....but it's cool....good choice :D
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http://forums.nessaholics.com/viewtopic.php?t=6225&start=0
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I really get your point Tricia but I would have to wait at least a fortnight more than everyone to get the CD. Its so painful seeing everyone write about how great it is, and how they queued up for hours to get it- so this is reassurance for me, and i'm sure many other overseas fans. But you can guarantee i'm buying at least 2 copies in the first week anyway.
I was going to say, for me personally, this leak has just saved me from having to stand weeks (even months) of reading how awesome the CD is and feeling all frustrated. I won't be able to buy it here anyway, so I was going to download sooner or later.
Granted I feel bad for Vanessa, it's very unfair to her after all the work, cos this is surely going to stop some fans from buying. But for me, it's perfect.
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yeah i hope this doesn't hurt everything TOO badly. But like BV said...what can you expect? we've been waiting FOREVER...
My new album will be out in June
that was a loooong time ago.
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I really get your point Tricia but I would have to wait at least a fortnight more than everyone to get the CD. Its so painful seeing everyone write about how great it is, and how they queued up for hours to get it- so this is reassurance for me, and i'm sure many other overseas fans. But you can guarantee i'm buying at least 2 copies in the first week anyway.
I was going to say, for me personally, this leak has just saved me from having to stand weeks (even months) of reading how awesome the CD is and feeling all frustrated. I won't be able to buy it here anyway, so I was going to download sooner or later.
Granted I feel bad for Vanessa, it's very unfair to her after all the work, cos this is surely going to stop some fans from buying. But for me, it's perfect.
I would have sent you a copy.....
I still can.
tylor
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Anyway, I think that the leak for this album will be sorta downplayed. I mean... a lot of the people who buy her albums are people who like her music. That doesn't necassarily mean that they get on the VCMB or this forum.
They don't need to . . .
just by using google i have found 4 places to download the full album in mp3, ogg, wma, and rma format. So deleting the thread was really pointless
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Anyway, I think that the leak for this album will be sorta downplayed. I mean... a lot of the people who buy her albums are people who like her music. That doesn't necassarily mean that they get on the VCMB or this forum.
They don't need to . . .
just by using google i have found 4 places to download the full album in mp3, ogg, wma, and rma format. So deleting the thread was really pointless
I know. He said that after I said that.
Either way, I don't think this will greatly affect her sales.
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this whole thing is killing me
just let me buy the music and go to the shows!!!!!!!!
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this whole thing is killing me
just let me buy the music and go to the shows!!!!!!!!
No Jo! We don't want you to die! *helps Joann down the ramp with her walker*
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this whole thing is killing me
just let me buy the music and go to the shows!!!!!!!!
No Jo! We don't want you to die! *helps Joann down the ramp with her walker*
thanks sonny
*tips the boy a quarter
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Anyway, I think that the leak for this album will be sorta downplayed. I mean... a lot of the people who buy her albums are people who like her music. That doesn't necassarily mean that they get on the VCMB or this forum.
They don't need to . . .
just by using google i have found 4 places to download the full album in mp3, ogg, wma, and rma format. So deleting the thread was really pointless
I know. He said that after I said that.
Either way, I don't think this will greatly affect her sales.
after two months of download time??? :?
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I'm at the point in my NESSAholism where I'd buy her album if she farted out all the songs. LOL
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I'm at the point in my NESSAholism where I'd buy her album if she farted out all the songs. LOL
you are so silly! you goober!
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I'm at the point in my NESSAholism where I'd buy her album if she farted out all the songs. LOL
lmao
well that would be a good extra for the dvd, NO videos though lol
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I'm at the point in my NESSAholism where I'd buy her album if she farted out all the songs. LOL
lmao
well that would be a good extra for the dvd, NO videos though lol
she made an attempt at burping them out at the R&R Hall of Fame. Why not complete the bodily function cycle right?
*sings*" It's the circle, circle of life" LOL
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I would buy them because I know she is going to come out with some good music no matter what direction she goes artistically, eventually. I haven't heard anything from Harmonium yet, but from what I am hearing from all of you she is coming out with some great music already. Better than BnN. Great music takes time to write, especially early in their careers. I say take 5 years and come up with something that surpasses this album.
tylor
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I refuse to download it, just because to me it feels wrong. It's not just because it's Nessa (though I'm sure that is a part of it). I don't like downloading anything before it's released, it feels like it's not for me yet, i'm not meant to have it.
For me, it'll be all the more rewarding when I get it properly in November.
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Mike, I doubt A&M purposely put out a leak.
That's not usually their goal...
Actually it is not uncommon AT ALL for a record label to leak something. I know people who work for labels and I know that despite what some reports would like to have you believe that download hurts sales and blah blah, some labels do believe that it helps sales. Why? #1- it creates discussion about the album - "omg, the album leaked" "where can i find vanessa's new album online" and creates a sense of urgency to get it and listen and be among the first people to have it. Then those people spread the word and maybe the music. #2- if she is offering the DVD in a bundle w/ the CD or if there is extra footage on the CD, they might bet that people WILL buy the album for the art and extras. #3 - it helps the label promote w/o them having to do much work. These things will spread like wildfire. The label can't reach as many people all on their own, but they know that the fans and the people dying to have these mp3s can.
It's a shame if someone hears the tracks and doesn't buy the record. But you know what? You can sample tracks on itunes or various other places and decide the same thing. And why would someone want to spend $15 on an album that has 3 good tracks? I kind of don't. As an artist, I respect that Vanessa put her heart and soul into this album and wants it to sell. But times have changed since she released her last record, and music is marketed differently.
I'm not saying the label necessarily did it...but I don't think it's the end of the world if they did.
AND you shouldn't necessarily get mad that they leaked early. Think about it: Vanessa is touring before the album comes out. Artists make their money from touring NOT album sales. The label might be grateful these things have leaked, because its been 2 years and people have forgotten about her. Maybe not the diehard fans here, but trust me, most people don't care... and they remember "1,000 Miles" and that's it. So if they hear something now, she has the possibility of selling more tickets, getting more hype, etc.
I haven't heard the album because the link was deleted, but I'd love to hear it. And I'll definitely buy it. But I think a lot of people assume this is the worst thing that could happen, and it just isn't. You don't know who put the mp3s out there. There was a time when labels were leaking to Kaaza.
Here's a good article: http://www.laweekly.com/ink/04/44/features-bemis2.php
peace,
jessica
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this whole thing is killing me
just let me buy the music and go to the shows!!!!!!!!
No Jo! We don't want you to die! *helps Joann down the ramp with her walker*
thanks sonny
*tips the boy a quarter
Fools. :)
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I completely agree with you Jessica, well put and well said.
Mike
the one and only Lostdwarf
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I completely agree with you Jessica, well put and well said.
Mike
the one and only Lostdwarf
which one?
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The first one, JessicaW
much respect for her too!
Mike
The one and only Lostdwarf
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Well I've been searching on limewire and have had no luck so far. If anyone's willing to send me the mp3's, I'd reeeeeeeally appreciate it. I'm on aim now.
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blah blah blah ...
Whatever. It's out there.
Get it or not, it's out there, and you can choose to make your own little protest ... which is very nobel of you ... I commend you and applaud, you're stronger than me!!
Oooooorrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr you can choose not to make any statements, and quietly (or not) sneak it, and play it BLARING in the car ... with all the friends going ... tath's brilliant who is it? And you say "Who else but the legendary ... Vanessa Carlton ... YEAH ... buy the album"!!! And then make sure to buy it (or them ... many copies ;-)) the first week to make sure it debuts good.
Your a clepto if you download it but then not buy it.
GAWD I'm so so proud to be a Nessaholic/Harmaniac
that's all :-)
I lie put my injuries all in the dust
What I gave is yours to keep ;-)
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I need the mp3's too. If anyone is willing to take the time to send them to me. I can get them in my email or on AIM. I'm ShannaChaleeFan or my email is natbrad@earthlink.net
I'm so buying about 3 copies of the album and 2 of th DVD for gifts, etc. There's just part of me that's GOT to hear the album!
So if someone is so kind as to help a person out. If my earthlink mail doesn't work you can try latalieb@yahoo.com or direct me to a site to get it. I tried one and it didn't work.
Thanks!
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the site that had was a messageboard , but the links are dead
so if you want em someone has to send em to ya!
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I really get your point Tricia but I would have to wait at least a fortnight more than everyone to get the CD. Its so painful seeing everyone write about how great it is, and how they queued up for hours to get it- so this is reassurance for me, and i'm sure many other overseas fans. But you can guarantee i'm buying at least 2 copies in the first week anyway.
I was going to say, for me personally, this leak has just saved me from having to stand weeks (even months) of reading how awesome the CD is and feeling all frustrated. I won't be able to buy it here anyway, so I was going to download sooner or later.
Granted I feel bad for Vanessa, it's very unfair to her after all the work, cos this is surely going to stop some fans from buying. But for me, it's perfect.
I would have sent you a copy.....
I still can.
tylor
Thanks :) It's ok. I know Rosie or Ghis can buy me one too and they live closer, so you don't need to. I'll have to get it that way, but still, what I mean is that it's not half as exciting getting it like that as it is going to the CD shop yourself and buying it, then having to wait til you're home to open and listen out loud... you know the deal. I know it sounds silly, but I would just love it even more that way and it sucks that I'm going to miss that bit.
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I'm willing to send to some people over AIM/MSN
:D
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I'm at the point in my NESSAholism where I'd buy her album if she farted out all the songs. LOL
HAHAHAHA!
That just cracked me up!! :lol:
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I think that everyone from this board should buy harmonium but somone can make 1 min or 30 s sampels from songs and send it over here.
you should buy harmonium because if you realy like vanessa you will do it even in 2 years. situation was the same with me. 2 yrs ago I didn't have money to afford be not nobody and sb copied the cd form me. now I earned some money and I'm going to buy harmonium and be not nobody as well.
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I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that 90% of the people active on this message board will purchase harmonium. Anyone willing to participate in a message board has a support for an artist that is more than the average fan and has the most people have the "good nature" to support the artist they like this much. I already have 5 copied pre-ordered through Amazon, plus I intend on going to Best Buy like Bling and being all "holla!" when they open =)
-katia
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I intend on going to Best Buy like Bling and being all "holla!" when they open =)
I'll holla around 2 in the afternoon for it.
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I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that 90% of the people active on this message board will purchase harmonium. Anyone willing to participate in a message board has a support for an artist that is more than the average fan and has the most people have the "good nature" to support the artist they like this much. I already have 5 copied pre-ordered through Amazon, plus I intend on going to Best Buy like Bling and being all "holla!" when they open =)
-katia
Are all 5 for you o.O?
And, I will probably go to whoever is the cheapest *the audience screams "TIGHTWAD"*...but I will, in fact, buy it.
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Is it possible to pre-order the U.S release with the DVD yet? All I can find on Amazon.com is the Japanese import and for 50 dollars they can sod that :?
-Kev
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And, I will probably go to whoever is the cheapest *the audience screams "TIGHTWAD"*...but I will, in fact, buy it.
Cheapest Always = Best Buy, if you don't know, now ya know! :razz:
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Circuit City will have is for $9.99
and you didn't hear that from me
Mike
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Circuit City will have is for $9.99
and you didn't hear that from me
Mike
I remember in 2002, I preordered BNN from Circuit City.com for $7.99. Boy did I get major bang for my buck. I think that was the least I paid for a cd, and BNN is my most frequently played cd, even over 2 yrs later!
I'm probably going to buy the cd for a few of my close friends as gifts in addition to my copy. I'm weary of preordering it from anywhere yet, in case the price drops below 11.88 (the lowest I've seen it for so far online). If I see it for 9.99 or less I will definitely preorder it ASAP.
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BnN was $7.56 at Walmart. that's probably where i'll go since it's either that or Coconuts, which is always more expensive.
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BnN was $7.56 at Walmart. that's probably where i'll go since it's either that or Coconuts, which is always more expensive.
fuck WalMart, they'll probably edit out "blood" for you too.
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BnN was $7.56 at Walmart. that's probably where i'll go since it's either that or Coconuts, which is always more expensive.
fuck WalMart, they'll probably edit out "blood" for you too.
*applause*
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BnN was $7.56 at Walmart. that's probably where i'll go since it's either that or Coconuts, which is always more expensive.
fuck WalMart, they'll probably edit out "blood" for you too.
Yes, edited moments. *sigh* lol :evil:
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BnN was $7.56 at Walmart. that's probably where i'll go since it's either that or Coconuts, which is always more expensive.
fuck WalMart, they'll probably edit out "blood" for you too.
Yes, edited moments. *sigh* lol :evil:
vive le Best Buy
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fuck WalMart, they'll probably edit out "blood" for you too.
Yet, you can walk over to the movie section and get an R-rated film with every four letter word in it.
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BnN was $7.56 at Walmart. that's probably where i'll go since it's either that or Coconuts, which is always more expensive.
fuck WalMart, they'll probably edit out "blood" for you too.
probably, but i'm poor so it'll do :-P plus i already have the version without blood edited out so it doesn't really matter much to me
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I bring this topic back up to ask a question. Many of us listened to (and still have) the leak. With the exception of "WTSHNN" being absent from the released version, has anyone noticed any difference whatsoever between the leak and the release, audibliy speaking, that is?