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Title: 2nd single?
Post by: Lord Star on October 10, 2004, 04:43:36 am
I hope Annie makes it as the second single.... For me Vanessa sounds best in that song.
Title: no.
Post by: migmitch on October 10, 2004, 06:10:53 am
that would be a horrible choice. Private Radio and then Who's to Say. That is what will work the best. Annie will bomb on the radio... well maybe if it is released later it wont.
Title: 2nd single?
Post by: All I Ask2003 on October 10, 2004, 07:51:03 am
I think the second single will most likely be Private Radio, since, originally, that was going to be her first single. Her third has to be something slow. Like Afterglow- in the pop world (excluding some hip-hop), the order of singles is lively, lively, slow ballad-y, lively (if there is a fourth single)
Title: Hahahaha it goes down
Post by: Afterglow on October 10, 2004, 07:57:01 am
:D I know, you know, he knows, she knows, it knows, we know, you know, they know that Private Radio will be a single. I don't want it to be. But it's not me that will change the rules.. But I'd love " Afterglow " to be single. :cry:
Title: 2nd single?
Post by: emmy on October 10, 2004, 08:01:18 am
I think Private Radio would make a good second single :)
Title: 2nd single?
Post by: amberbeads on October 10, 2004, 08:02:16 am
As do I :D
Title: Make sense to me
Post by: Afterglow on October 10, 2004, 08:07:25 am
:oops: I can't imagine a video for Private Radio.. I can't understand the lyric.. I need to study more and San Francisco would be a great single :lol:
Title: 2nd single?
Post by: badsrx7 on October 10, 2004, 08:46:49 am
I didn't like Private Radio at first,

but now I enjoy it.
I think it'll be a good 2nd single.

and I agree; although Annie is my absolute favorite,
it would not be a wise choice for the next single.
Title: Get a thought
Post by: Afterglow on October 10, 2004, 08:55:58 am
:cry: Vanessa can't choose Private Radio to be the next single.. She must choose Afterglow or San Francisco but Private Radio :oops:
Title: 2nd single?
Post by: JazzyManda on October 10, 2004, 09:26:21 am
Streets Have No Name should be a single. seriously... you know how many people love that song (people who grew up listening to U2)? and she does such a good job on it. it would give her a lot of attention that she covered a U2 song and did it well. it has a nice edge to it. rather than a pop feel like her other singles

Amanda
Title: I think it's gonna be..
Post by: Afterglow on October 10, 2004, 10:55:06 am
:o I was thinking and I think you're right. Streets have no name should be a single. But I think Vanessa can't do it because it's not her song. I think  :lol:
Title: 2nd single?
Post by: twilightstar530 on October 10, 2004, 01:00:41 pm
i think she could do it but she wont cause its not even going to be on harmoinum.
Title: Going
Post by: Afterglow on October 10, 2004, 03:21:35 pm
:cry: Never say it.. It will be on Harmonium.. Where is your faith? :arrow:  You gotta get a little :lol:
Title: 2nd single?
Post by: amberbeads on October 10, 2004, 03:40:52 pm
It won't be. Nothing to do with faith. Just with facts.
Title: Re: Going
Post by: Jophess on October 10, 2004, 03:45:33 pm
Quote from: "Afterglow"
:cry: Never say it.. It will be on Harmonium.. Where is your faith? :arrow:  You gotta get a little :lol:

Learn your facts. "Where The Streets Have No Name" won't be on Harmonium, but it might be a B-side for the 2nd single or might even be on a movie soundtrack or something.

And why are you so anti-Private Radio? The song is catchy, radio-friendly, and has a nice beat/tune. The fact that you don't understand the lyrics doesn't make it potentially a bad 2nd single. I couldn't imagine a video for "White Houses", but they made it, and it's awesome.  :roll:
Title: Re: Make sense to me
Post by: amberbeads on October 10, 2004, 03:51:36 pm
Quote from: "Afterglow"
:oops: I can't imagine a video for Private Radio.. I can't understand the lyric.. I need to study more and San Francisco would be a great single :lol:

I'll explain the lyrics to you. It's really, really straight-forward.
She can't sleep. She's up all night thinking about this guy she's totally in love with. She refers to the "song" he "plays" in her head as her "private radio."
That's it. The whole song.
Title: Take it easy
Post by: Afterglow on October 10, 2004, 03:54:09 pm
8) I'm not an Anti-Private Radio, I love it but I think it's not a song for a video. In Be Not Nobody I didn't like Ordinary day as a single but I loved the song, I loved the video but I'd prefer " Rinse " to be. It is my opinium.. O.K.! Get it as I freak
 :lol:
Title: 2nd single?
Post by: Xenophanes on October 10, 2004, 04:24:22 pm
I really think that Private Radio is just too short to be a single...barely 3 minutes! I think that Who's To Say has a good chance of being the next single, because...

a) It has a "poppy" enough feel to it to be such
b) She's been playing it, and not Private Radio, live in South America and live on Sessions.

I'm certainly not anti-Private Radio; I would love to see it be a single, but not the second one...just too short! :(
Title: Re: I think it's gonna be..
Post by: Jessica on October 10, 2004, 08:05:22 pm
Quote from: "Afterglow"
:o I was thinking and I think you're right. Streets have no name should be a single. But I think Vanessa can't do it because it's not her song. I think  :lol:


that rubban stutar guy did 'flying without wings' and it was a single and on the radio and made a music video, and that song belongs to westlife.
Title: 2nd single?
Post by: Lord Star on October 11, 2004, 12:41:22 am
Ok maybe it's Who's to Say....
Title: Re: I think it's gonna be..
Post by: amberbeads on October 11, 2004, 06:41:53 am
Quote from: "STARGiRL"
Quote from: "Afterglow"
:o I was thinking and I think you're right. Streets have no name should be a single. But I think Vanessa can't do it because it's not her song. I think  :lol:


that rubban stutar guy did 'flying without wings' and it was a single and on the radio and made a music video, and that song belongs to westlife.

Lenny Kravitz released American Woman, Trisha Yearwood released How Do I Live?, Madonna released American Pie, Aerosmith released Come Together... the list goes on, she could release that song if she wanted to.
Title: 2nd single?
Post by: Lord Star on October 12, 2004, 01:12:18 am
Who's to Say! ahehehe

Ok now I think "Who's to Say" will be  the next single because they're promoting Who's to Say.... with the backup vocals of Pharell Williams IN THE BIO section... just a thought
Title: Thoughtless
Post by: Afterglow on October 12, 2004, 01:22:15 pm
:lol: I think Who's to say will be a single anyway. But I'm sure Private Radio will be too. :lol:
Title: 2nd single?
Post by: Lord Star on October 13, 2004, 02:02:39 am
Im hearing backup vocals in Who's to Say, but the voice sounds like a girl....
Title: 2nd single?
Post by: BWilli on October 13, 2004, 03:35:28 am
Even though Who's To Say is my favorite song, I have to agree that Private Radio may be the next single....
Title: Re: I think it's gonna be..
Post by: rosieposy87 on October 13, 2004, 04:13:08 am
Quote from: "amberbeads"
Quote from: "STARGiRL"
Quote from: "Afterglow"
:o I was thinking and I think you're right. Streets have no name should be a single. But I think Vanessa can't do it because it's not her song. I think  :lol:


that rubban stutar guy did 'flying without wings' and it was a single and on the radio and made a music video, and that song belongs to westlife.

Lenny Kravitz released American Woman, Trisha Yearwood released How Do I Live?, Madonna released American Pie, Aerosmith released Come Together... the list goes on, she could release that song if she wanted to.


God forbid the day she releases Streets Have No Name- she would be cut down so badly for it, oh and its not on the album either. PRIVATE RADIO ALL THE BLOODY WAY!
Title: Re: I think it's gonna be..
Post by: Grakthis on October 13, 2004, 05:07:02 am
Quote from: "rosieposy87"
Quote from: "amberbeads"
Quote from: "STARGiRL"
Quote from: "Afterglow"
:o I was thinking and I think you're right. Streets have no name should be a single. But I think Vanessa can't do it because it's not her song. I think  :lol:


that rubban stutar guy did 'flying without wings' and it was a single and on the radio and made a music video, and that song belongs to westlife.

Lenny Kravitz released American Woman, Trisha Yearwood released How Do I Live?, Madonna released American Pie, Aerosmith released Come Together... the list goes on, she could release that song if she wanted to.


God forbid the day she releases Streets Have No Name- she would be cut down so badly for it, oh and its not on the album either. PRIVATE RADIO ALL THE BLOODY WAY!


WTF?  Why is that?

If Jessica Simpson can cover "Angels", Britney Spears can cover "Satisfaction", Uncle Cracker can cover "Drift Away" and 311 can cover "Love Song" then Vanessa Carlton can sure cover "Streets Have No Name" and make it a hit.

You overestimate the elitism of the average consumer, Rosie.
Title: 2nd single?
Post by: BWilli on October 13, 2004, 06:12:52 am
Quote from: "rosieposy87"
God forbid the day she releases Streets Have No Name- she would be cut down so badly for it, oh and its not on the album either. PRIVATE RADIO ALL THE BLOODY WAY!



Yeah, that is a bit harsh Rosie...I think V's cover of Streets, with the (exception of Aerosmith) is better than the covers listed above by andrew

If it was going to be on the album, which we all know it isn't, it definately has the potential to be released as a single and become a hit.
Title: 2nd single?
Post by: neos on October 14, 2004, 08:24:03 am
I think logically the second single should be Private Radio, since it was originally going to be the first one, but I'm hoping it'll be San Francisco or Who's To Say, I think they could both do very well (and they're my favourites!)

About the Streets Have No Name thing, I see where Rosie is coming from. It's not that the cover isn't good - which it is! it's brilliant! - it's just that a) if she released that as single she'd be eaten alive by critics and b) she has much better songs (her own songs!) in the album that she can release instead of that and cause a much better impression. Just my opinion.
Title: 2nd single?
Post by: amberbeads on October 14, 2004, 08:27:43 am
Quote from: "neos"
I think logically the second single should be Private Radio, since it was originally going to be the first one, but I'm hoping it'll be San Francisco or Who's To Say, I think they could both do very well (and they're my favourites!)

About the Streets Have No Name thing, I see where Rosie is coming from. It's not that the cover isn't good - which it is! it's brilliant! - it's just that a) if she released that as single she'd be eaten alive by critics and b) she has much better songs (her own songs!) in the album that she can release instead of that and cause a much better impression. Just my opinion.

c) IT'S NOT ON THE ALBUM!!!
Title: 2nd single?
Post by: neos on October 14, 2004, 08:29:30 am
ok, ok, calm down... I was just commenting on what they'd been posting about. Chill
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Post by: czarina on October 14, 2004, 08:45:05 am
Private Radio for pop
Afterglow for AC/HOt Ac
Title: 2nd single?
Post by: amberbeads on October 14, 2004, 09:40:29 am
Quote from: "neos"
ok, ok, calm down... I was just commenting on what they'd been posting about. Chill

I know, and I was totally in support of what you said. I was just adding something pretty important to the list.
Title: 2nd single?
Post by: Lord Star on October 15, 2004, 01:44:25 am
Private Radio is a pop song... But it rocks! :D
Title: 2nd single?
Post by: rosieposy87 on October 15, 2004, 02:12:26 am
Quote from: "amberbeads"
Quote from: "neos"
ok, ok, calm down... I was just commenting on what they'd been posting about. Chill

I know, and I was totally in support of what you said. I was just adding something pretty important to the list.


But i already said that!

 Oh and Brian/Colin/whatever your name is, get over it- i wish you wouldn't feel like i'm personally criticising Vanessa for covering it- i just don't think its half as good as the original- doesn't mean i don't like it.
Title: 2nd single?
Post by: Grakthis on October 15, 2004, 06:44:32 am
Quote from: "rosieposy87"
Quote from: "amberbeads"
Quote from: "neos"
ok, ok, calm down... I was just commenting on what they'd been posting about. Chill

I know, and I was totally in support of what you said. I was just adding something pretty important to the list.


But i already said that!

 Oh and Brian/Colin/whatever your name is, get over it- i wish you wouldn't feel like i'm personally criticising Vanessa for covering it- i just don't think its half as good as the original- doesn't mean i don't like it.


You know.... I bet it's gonna be a single on either on a special edition of the CD or else on a soundtrack.  She wouldn't record the song and not use it somewhere.
Title: 2nd single?
Post by: BWilli on October 15, 2004, 08:03:45 am
Quote from: "rosieposy87"
Oh and Brian/Colin/whatever your name is, get over it- i wish you wouldn't feel like i'm personally criticising Vanessa for covering it- i just don't think its half as good as the original- doesn't mean i don't like it.


what is it with everyone?  don't people have nicknames anymore...sheesh.

anyway, all i said was your comment was a bit harsh.  just because it's not as good as the original, doesn't mean it wouldn't be a hit.  As you were allowed to state your personal opinion, I stated mine.   :D
Title: well
Post by: saphire on October 15, 2004, 08:24:29 am
Private Radio is radiofreindly and realy comercial.I like the song and i think its gonna be the 2nd Single.WTSHNN is just to long.More than 5 Minutes is to long for a song that schould be released.I hope the Half a week before the winter will be the single.
Title: 2nd single?
Post by: Lord Star on October 18, 2004, 01:48:41 am
OK!!!! I just heard Who's to Say on the radio! Here in the Philippines!
Im not lying! I even stopped my Dad to go so that I could hear it!
Title: What?
Post by: Afterglow on October 20, 2004, 03:02:11 am
Who's to say at Radios? Are you sure?
Title: 2nd single?
Post by: zurielshimon on October 20, 2004, 08:11:47 am
Quote from: "Grakthis"
She wouldn't record the song and not use it somewhere.

I know it wouldn't seem logical at all to record something, do such a good job on it, and then never use it for anything, but let's not forget "Superhero".  Read jlmusicchick's post (http://forums.nessaholics.com/viewtopic.php?p=52332#52332) for the details.  She never used the recording, and never plans to use the song.  It's pretty much up to her whim if she decides to shelve a perfectly completed recording, or, a whole song, albeit that she didn't write this one.
Title: 2nd single?
Post by: zurielshimon on October 20, 2004, 08:30:03 am
Oh, and I just found Mike's original post about it:

http://forums.nessaholics.com/viewtopic.php?p=15963#15963
Title: 2nd single?
Post by: Lord Star on October 22, 2004, 04:01:28 am
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Who's to say at Radios? Are you sure?


Yes Im sure, I aint crazy! I dont know why www.jam883.fm plays it but they do...... New on " Jam, Who's to Say by Vanessa Carlton from her album Harmonium.... blah blah" thats what they say after playing it!
Title: 2nd single?
Post by: Jophess on October 22, 2004, 10:20:53 am
Quote from: "Lord Star"
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Who's to say at Radios? Are you sure?


Yes Im sure, I aint crazy! I dont know why www.jam883.fm plays it but they do...... New on " Jam, Who's to Say by Vanessa Carlton from her album Harmonium.... blah blah" thats what they say after playing it!

WH is the number one song on there.  :D
Title: hmm
Post by: Emmyspiano on October 22, 2004, 11:40:38 am
they played Who's to say  awesome! My father said he heard "wanted" on the radio. He also siad they played 3 Vanessa songs in a row.I forget the station.
Title: 2nd single?
Post by: DutchNessaHolic on October 22, 2004, 12:13:38 pm
(http://dutch1.digitalus.nl/~evilvanessafan.nl/pics/wh1.JPG)


 :D  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D
Title: 2nd single?
Post by: Lord Star on October 23, 2004, 03:41:18 am
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WH is the number one song on there.


Oh yeah! :D Im crazy requesting Who's to Say right now to have two Vanessa Carlton songs on the chart!
Title: get it as I stick in
Post by: Afterglow on October 23, 2004, 10:23:41 am
:? Brazilian radios are playing White Houses...

Visit and check it

www.97fmaraguaia.com.br
Title: 2nd single?
Post by: czarina on October 23, 2004, 11:21:12 am
Whos To Say and Private Radio are the two songs in consideration to be the American second single. I can see pros and cons of both
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Post by: Xenophanes on October 23, 2004, 12:45:38 pm
Quote from: "czarina"
Whos To Say and Private Radio are the two songs in consideration to be the American second single. I can see pros and cons of both

 :? I don't know which one I want now. Private Radio has been stuck in my head for like the past week...I love it...
Title: 2nd single?
Post by: nessaRox on October 24, 2004, 02:07:31 am
A&M is deciding between "Who's To Say" and "Private Radio" for the second single.  I think "Private Radio" would be better because it's an upbeat Vanessa song for once.   -
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Title: 2nd single?
Post by: Ghisy on October 24, 2004, 02:34:12 am
Private Radio all the way baby!!!!
This song rocks my socks!  8)
Who's To Say is a good song but I just don't see it as a single...
Title: Don't look so high
Post by: Afterglow on October 24, 2004, 02:59:09 am
:o I can imagine a video for " Who's to say ". I think it's a good choice for a single. But  :?  I can't say the same for Private Radio. I don't imagine a video for it. The song is pretty short. No, No... I see San Francisco would be better than Private Radio. :wink:
Title: 2nd single?
Post by: Lord Star on October 24, 2004, 11:58:56 pm
I really think it's Who's to Say.. Ahahahah!
Title: 2nd single?
Post by: LimeTwister on October 25, 2004, 11:42:06 am
an extended version of Private radio...it's an awesome song.
Title: 2nd single?
Post by: All I Ask2003 on October 25, 2004, 02:00:38 pm
OH MY GOD that would be SO kickass if Who's to Say was the next single! That gets my vote of what I'd most WANT it to be, but I'd put money on Private Radio, saying it'd be the next single. It would definitely get some great airplay!
Title: 2nd single?
Post by: Lord Star on October 27, 2004, 02:35:39 am
I cant wait~ :razz:
Title: 2nd single?
Post by: Jessica on October 28, 2004, 01:34:18 pm
i like private radio but i think its too poppy


"whos to say" *thumbs up*
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Post by: Steveau on October 28, 2004, 02:34:36 pm
I like WTS better and it's going to have more mainstream support from the rebellious kids who think they're in love at 15.
Title: lol
Post by: DutchNessaHolic on October 28, 2004, 02:54:15 pm
have to agree , i also dont realy see a video for private radio

and if i had to choose between the 2 of em id go for who's to say 100%
Title: 2nd single?
Post by: KULPDOGG on October 28, 2004, 03:34:01 pm
Who's To Say should be the next single.

....Vanessa DID play it for aol sessions, and didnt play private radio for them :-\
plus who's to say is longer.

and im sure it'll get way more attention than White Houses did :(
Title: 2nd single?
Post by: amberbeads on October 28, 2004, 04:04:15 pm
yeah but seriously, have you considered what PR would sound like on just the piano? I'm thinking that's why she hasn't been playing it live or on sessions and stuff.
Title: Re: I think it's gonna be..
Post by: irice22 on October 28, 2004, 09:08:00 pm
Quote

Lenny Kravitz released American Woman, Trisha Yearwood released How Do I Live?, Madonna released American Pie, Aerosmith released Come Together... the list goes on, she could release that song if she wanted to.


Actually, Yearwood did the original "How Do I Live?" :D

Anyway, "Private Radio" should defnitely be the next single. Radio is looking for a different sound from Vanessa. The song is fun, upbeat, and short. Radio won't like a long song, that prefer short songs to keep the listeners attention. It will attract a new audience. It would be unwise to not release a song because it wouldn't makea good video. Even though I think it would make a great video.  Hot AC radio already seemed to have abondoned her. She needs to focus on pop, pop will love "Private Radio."
Title: 2nd single?
Post by: Lord Star on October 29, 2004, 02:27:47 am
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Who's To Say should be the next single.

....Vanessa DID play it for aol sessions, and didnt play private radio for them :-\
plus who's to say is longer.

and im sure it'll get way more attention than White Houses did


I definitely agree!
Title: 2nd single?
Post by: Afterglow on October 29, 2004, 07:47:11 am
:roll: I'm sure that WHO'S TO SAY and PRIVATE RADIO will be singles.. but I don't think Who's to say will be the next. I think it's gonna be the 3th single.. It's just a thought, Only a thought :roll:
Title: 2nd single?
Post by: Jophess on October 29, 2004, 10:49:26 am
Quote from: "Afterglow"
It's just a thought, Only a thought

*sings* But if my liiiiiiiiiiiife we're for rrrrreeeeeeeeent, and I doooooooon't learn to buuuuuuy, then I deserve nothing mooooore than I geeeeeeeet, cause nothing I haaaaaaaaave is truly miiiiiine.

er

*hides in corner*
Title: 2nd single?
Post by: Lord Star on October 29, 2004, 10:35:09 pm
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*sings* But if my liiiiiiiiiiiife we're for rrrrreeeeeeeeent, and I doooooooon't learn to buuuuuuy, then I deserve nothing mooooore than I geeeeeeeet, cause nothing I haaaaaaaaave is truly miiiiiine.

er

*hides in corner*


 8)
Title: 2nd single?
Post by: Afterglow on October 30, 2004, 12:26:41 am
Quote from: "Nagyovafan"
Quote from: "Afterglow"
It's just a thought, Only a thought

*sings* But if my liiiiiiiiiiiife we're for rrrrreeeeeeeeent, and I doooooooon't learn to buuuuuuy, then I deserve nothing mooooore than I geeeeeeeet, cause nothing I haaaaaaaaave is truly miiiiiine.

er

*hides in corner*


I see that you like Dido, she's really good
Title: 2nd single?
Post by: Jophess on October 30, 2004, 12:09:15 pm
Quote from: "Afterglow"
Quote from: "Nagyovafan"
Quote from: "Afterglow"
It's just a thought, Only a thought

*sings* But if my liiiiiiiiiiiife we're for rrrrreeeeeeeeent, and I doooooooon't learn to buuuuuuy, then I deserve nothing mooooore than I geeeeeeeet, cause nothing I haaaaaaaaave is truly miiiiiine.

er

*hides in corner*


I see that you like Dido, she's really good

She's cool.
Title: 2nd single?
Post by: Afterglow on October 30, 2004, 11:47:12 pm
Ah... If you were a fan of Dido, I'd give you a site with rare videos... :!:
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Post by: ThomasEj on October 31, 2004, 06:34:27 am
next singiel will be Who's to say and the 3rd singiel should be PRIVATE RADIO (this song is sa great...I've got an idea for video. while listening to pradio I imagine this video all the time)
Title: 2nd single?
Post by: Afterglow on October 31, 2004, 11:10:19 am
So... tell us about your imagination for Private Radio..

Just don't know why but I imagine for Who's to say, the ordinary day video.. Who's to say reminds me Ordinary Day
Title: 2nd single?
Post by: ThomasEj on October 31, 2004, 02:47:51 pm
It's really hard to explain my imagination in English...in Polish I even wrote some staff down. I'll tell you the main ideas form my version of video.

At the biginning I see Vanessa standing and she starts going. It's dark...night She's going and she's singing. Then she jumpes from the bridge. Camera slows down...she's falling down. Suddenly she land on her legs. She's still going....finally sh's on the beach and she sees sun rising.

Vanessa kick the doors to some studio. There's percussion and other instrument that we hear in the song. Then she plays percussion, shaking her head. Camera moves fast all the time.

Vanessa in some room. We see bed. She pops into bed...camera slows down while singing "catch me.....morning rising" and sh still hasn't landed in her bed...

I tried to describe my imagination somehow but it's really hard and ...I imagine it with every beat in the song.
Title: 2nd single?
Post by: Afterglow on October 31, 2004, 03:14:10 pm
Hey.. It'd be a good video...
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Post by: emmy on October 31, 2004, 04:06:07 pm
Yeah, it does sound pretty cool :)  I'm not sure how I would imagine it... actually, I never really thought about it...
Title: 2nd single?
Post by: Afterglow on October 31, 2004, 04:13:24 pm
I can imagine a video for WHO'S TO SAY.. It'd be the same as Ordinary Day but a little more with emotion....
Title: 2nd single?
Post by: Steveau on October 31, 2004, 06:28:27 pm
Quote from: "ThomasEj"
next singiel will be Who's to say and the 3rd singiel should be PRIVATE RADIO (this song is sa great...I've got an idea for video. while listening to pradio I imagine this video all the time)

I personally think Afterglow should be her third. It's Vanessa's favorite from the album (mine too if Streets isn't included) and it's got the most potential for the charts IMO. I'm not crazy about the potential for airplay for Private Radio frankly. Even San Francisco would seem more radio friendly to me.
Title: 2nd single?
Post by: Lord Star on November 02, 2004, 09:06:03 pm
Stephan Jenkins should show up in the video of Who's to Say when it becomes a single! 8O
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Post by: Xenophanes on November 02, 2004, 09:19:35 pm
Quote from: "Lord Star"
Stephan Jenkins should show up in the video of Who's to Say when it becomes a single! 8O

You know, I like that idea. It would really bring out the meaning of the song, I think.
Title: 2nd single?
Post by: Lord Star on November 02, 2004, 09:39:53 pm
Yep it'll bring the whole song up!
Title: 2nd single?
Post by: amberbeads on November 03, 2004, 07:24:46 am
Quote from: "Xenophanes"
Quote from: "Lord Star"
Stephan Jenkins should show up in the video of Who's to Say when it becomes a single! 8O

You know, I like that idea. It would really bring out the meaning of the song, I think.

I doubt it'll ever happen.
She didn't even seem very thrilled about telling us about the song in Cleveland. She just said it was really personal and she was pretty vague, but it's obvious what it's about.
Yeah it'd bring out the meaning of the song but I don't even know if she'd make it a single because both she and Stephan are really careful to keep their private lives secret, so I definitely don't see her putting out the song and then sticking him in the video, too; that's just like her screaming HEY LOOK AT ME AND MY BOYFRIEND AND OUR RELATIONSHIP!!! to the world. Very out of character, imo.
Title: 2nd single?
Post by: ThomasEj on November 03, 2004, 08:07:59 am
Quote from: "Xenophanes"
Quote from: "Lord Star"
Stephan Jenkins should show up in the video of Who's to Say when it becomes a single! 8O

You know, I like that idea. It would really bring out the meaning of the song, I think.


Pharrell Williams should be in video as well...he sang back ups on Who's to say. mabye they'll do another version of the song and he'll rap there.
Title: 2nd single?
Post by: Vultch on November 03, 2004, 10:49:28 am
Quote from: "ThomasEj"
Pharrell Williams should be in video as well...he sang back ups on Who's to say. mabye they'll do another version of the song and he'll rap there.

I just twitched :!:
Title: 2nd single?
Post by: Lord Star on November 04, 2004, 12:42:43 am
Wow... cant imagine a rap part in any song of Vanessa! 8O
Title: 2nd single?
Post by: DeepWithinMyself on November 05, 2004, 08:36:59 pm
I really REALLY hope "Who's To Say" is at least a single, i love that song so much.  "Annie" would be a great single too! I dunno alot of the songs are too good!! I'll be happy with whatever is next!!!
Title: 2nd single?
Post by: Lexxy on November 06, 2004, 08:20:12 am
i really hope it's "Who's To Say". Private Radio is too short  :? and I dun think it would do too good.
Title: 2nd single?
Post by: Jophess on November 06, 2004, 12:12:32 pm
Quote from: "blackvulture"
Quote from: "ThomasEj"
Pharrell Williams should be in video as well...he sang back ups on Who's to say. mabye they'll do another version of the song and he'll rap there.

I just twitched :!:
ROFL

Wow, that made my day.
Title: Short vs. Long
Post by: irice22 on November 06, 2004, 11:13:22 pm
The short length of "Private Radio" will actually help it on the radio, not hurt it. "Who's to Say" is too long, pop listeners won't be able to sit through it. Besides, I think it's generic to release the first two songs as the first two singles.
Title: 2nd single?
Post by: Xenophanes on December 21, 2004, 11:27:24 pm
Hmm...well, someone on the o-board claims to have knowledge that the second single will indeed be "Private Radio":

Here's the thread (http://www.vanessacarlton.com/bboard/forumname/viewtopic.asp?TopicID=1525991&topic=FLASH+NEWS%3A+Next+song+to+be+Private+Radio)

I'm not ready to put much faith into this, as I don't really give credence to the o-board anyway. What's interesting, though, is the person mentions that a press release will follow in about a week or two.

Comments? :?
Title: 2nd single?
Post by: emmy on December 21, 2004, 11:41:55 pm
I dont think I would trust that person... their post seems pretty random.  Anyways, they spelled available wrong.  You can't trust people that spell available wrong :wink:
Title: 2nd single?
Post by: Jophess on December 22, 2004, 08:09:02 am
I dunno. I'll believe it when I hear it from Vanessa's mouth (or computer).
Title: 2nd single?
Post by: I gotta wear shades on December 22, 2004, 10:44:21 am
Quote from: "Steveau"
I'm not crazy about the potential for airplay for Private Radio frankly. Even San Francisco would seem more radio friendly to me.


 8O
Title: 2nd single?
Post by: I gotta wear shades on December 22, 2004, 10:45:29 am
Quote from: "Xenophanes"
I'm not ready to put much faith into this, as I don't really give credence to the o-board anyway.
Comments? :?


 8O
Title: 2nd single?
Post by: Mountaineer on December 22, 2004, 01:57:39 pm
I really like Who's to say but as Nat said its too personal. If you are gonna put out a single like Who's to say, you need to back it up with a vid that describes the song. It would be too personal. I think Private Radio will be the next single. Its catchy and has nice music. I think the 3rd single will be San Francisco.
Title: 2nd single?
Post by: emmy on December 22, 2004, 03:03:55 pm
Quote from: "I gotta wear shades"
Quote from: "Xenophanes"
I'm not ready to put much faith into this, as I don't really give credence to the o-board anyway.
Comments? :?


 8O


Yeah, cuz  8O  really helps the convo along, eh?
I dunno... I think Private Radio would be a good 2nd single.  I know I must be strange or something, but I'm not a big fan of Whos to Say, like most people seem to be.
But of course, we'll just have to wait and see. *attempts to be patient*
Title: 2nd single?
Post by: VaderDawsn on December 22, 2004, 04:20:04 pm
I'm excited to see a new single and music video from Vanessa.  It doesn't really matter to me what song it is for.  I think Private Radio's a sassy song  and with the right type of music video it won;t come off as sell-out pop to non-fans.
Title: 2nd single?
Post by: Afterglow on December 22, 2004, 04:55:31 pm
Quote from: "emmy"
Quote from: "I gotta wear shades"
Quote from: "Xenophanes"
I'm not ready to put much faith into this, as I don't really give credence to the o-board anyway.
Comments? :?


 8O


Yeah, cuz  8O  really helps the convo along, eh?
I dunno... I think Private Radio would be a good 2nd single.  I know I must be strange or something, but I'm not a big fan of Whos to Say, like most people seem to be.
But of course, we'll just have to wait and see. *attempts to be patient*


Qual é a diferença de Private Radio ser o 2° ou o 3° Single? Ele vai ser um de qualquer jeito

I don't know it in English but I'll try

There's no need to be the 2nd or the 3rd single, it'll be anyway
Title: The Wreckage
Post by: rctshine on December 22, 2004, 06:24:42 pm
This was a while back, but I was at our local hastings a few months ago, and I heard The Wreckage playing over the sound speakers. Is that V's new single :?:


Just Wondering.



RCTShine
Title: 2nd single?
Post by: emmy on December 22, 2004, 06:48:19 pm
Quote from: "Afterglow"
Quote from: "emmy"
Quote from: "I gotta wear shades"
Quote from: "Xenophanes"
I'm not ready to put much faith into this, as I don't really give credence to the o-board anyway.
Comments? :?


 8O


Yeah, cuz  8O  really helps the convo along, eh?
I dunno... I think Private Radio would be a good 2nd single.  I know I must be strange or something, but I'm not a big fan of Whos to Say, like most people seem to be.
But of course, we'll just have to wait and see. *attempts to be patient*


Qual é a diferença de Private Radio ser o 2° ou o 3° Single? Ele vai ser um de qualquer jeito

I don't know it in English but I'll try

There's no need to be the 2nd or the 3rd single, it'll be anyway


nao, é importante, e tem diferença... se o 2° single nao faz muito bom, talvez nao vai ser um 3° single.  o white houses nao fez muito bom, entao, o 2° single é muito importante para ela.  entende?
Title: 2nd single?
Post by: nessaRox on December 26, 2004, 04:16:12 am
There is ONLY one choice for a second single.And that is PRIVATE RADIO. Had White Houses been a big hit(atleast as big as Ordinary Day) then the sec single could have been either Whos to Say or San Fran.But right now PR is it!!
Title: 2nd single?
Post by: Afterglow on December 26, 2004, 05:04:27 am
Quote from: "nessaRox"
There is ONLY one choice for a second single.And that is PRIVATE RADIO. Had White Houses been a big hit(atleast as big as Ordinary Day) then the sec single could have been either Whos to Say or San Fran.But right now PR is it!!


Well, here in Brazil " PRETTY BABY " is the hit.. Until today it's played at radios, people call to the radio and ask for PRETTY BABY - VANESSA KALTON hehehee... Pretty Baby is the hit here because it's played in a famous soap/soup opera called " Malhação " so, everybody knows that song..... Ordinary Day was in this soap/soup opera last year but it was never played at the radios here where I live and now WHITE HOUSES is being played often here.... But I still vote to Annie and San Francisco... because I'm sure that WHO'S TO SAY will be one single
Title: 2nd single?
Post by: Sharona PianoBea on December 27, 2004, 06:21:07 am
Arrrggh... I wish she'd just hurry up and get the second single out there. Then we could stop debating about it and just listen to it!  8O
Title: 2nd single?
Post by: TurnOnTheStars on December 27, 2004, 08:41:30 pm
san fran was playing in the GAP today  :D
Title: 2nd single?
Post by: Lord Star on December 27, 2004, 08:54:26 pm
So, is it San Fran?
Title: 2nd single?
Post by: nessaRox on December 28, 2004, 01:39:57 am
hope it isnt.It is an OK song.nowhere as good as WTS or PR
Title: 2nd single?
Post by: emmy on December 28, 2004, 03:46:14 pm
Quote from: "Afterglow"
Quote from: "nessaRox"
There is ONLY one choice for a second single.And that is PRIVATE RADIO. Had White Houses been a big hit(atleast as big as Ordinary Day) then the sec single could have been either Whos to Say or San Fran.But right now PR is it!!


Well, here in Brazil " PRETTY BABY " is the hit.. Until today it's played at radios, people call to the radio and ask for PRETTY BABY - VANESSA KALTON hehehee... Pretty Baby is the hit here because it's played in a famous soap/soup opera called " Malhação " so, everybody knows that song..... Ordinary Day was in this soap/soup opera last year but it was never played at the radios here where I live and now WHITE HOUSES is being played often here.... But I still vote to Annie and San Francisco... because I'm sure that WHO'S TO SAY will be one single


Well, Pretty Baby may be the hit there, but it wasn't here.  If the second single does horrible in the USA and everywhere else, nobody is going to care if it does well in just Brasil...
Title: 2nd single?
Post by: Afterglow on December 28, 2004, 07:34:12 pm
Yeah, that's so true... So... I trust Vanessa and I know she will bring us a new and cool single... .. So.. And I put the next single on her hands and I hold on to watch the video in my house
Title: 2nd single?
Post by: vt on December 29, 2004, 07:39:30 pm
I think "Who's To Say" woould be the perfect-est second single.  "Private Radio" is too dancy...I don't think it would do good on the radio.
Title: 2nd single?
Post by: Lord Star on December 30, 2004, 01:51:48 am
Quote from: "vt"
I think "Who's To Say" woould be the perfect-est second single.  "Private Radio" is too dancy...I don't think it would do good on the radio.


A dancy song would really be a good choice for the radio.
Title: 2nd single?
Post by: nessaRox on December 30, 2004, 02:40:03 am
Quote from: "Lord Star"
Quote from: "vt"
I think "Who's To Say" woould be the perfect-est second single.  "Private Radio" is too dancy...I don't think it would do good on the radio.


A dancy song would really be a good choice for the radio.

(agrees whole-heartedly) :razz:
Title: 2nd single?
Post by: vt on January 06, 2005, 04:16:34 pm
Quote from: "Lord Star"
Quote from: "vt"
I think "Who's To Say" woould be the perfect-est second single.  "Private Radio" is too dancy...I don't think it would do good on the radio.


A dancy song would really be a good choice for the radio.


Vanessa's not known for her dancing, she's known for her piano-playing skills.
Title: 2nd single?
Post by: eclv on January 06, 2005, 05:44:45 pm
I just watched that Olympic Gold show yesterday and in her interview she said she hopes to release her second single in January or February. Probably means March. I guess we'll see.
Title: 2nd single?
Post by: Afterglow on January 07, 2005, 01:12:04 am
Hey... I'm not to wait.... I think 5 months are enough to make another single...

Where has Vanessa gone?
Title: 2nd single?
Post by: Gren on January 08, 2005, 03:15:36 am
I think Who's to say would Definitly be a hit where i live, i allready know some non-nessafans who like it. if not i think annie, because the meaning of it will get to ppl and that will make it more popular. I dont know about private radio, theres somthing to average about it, where as who's to say is very ATMish
Title: 2nd single?
Post by: Alyssa on January 09, 2005, 03:52:47 pm
Private Radio.

Sure Who's To Say is the best musically but its not 2nd single material.

Single order goes like this:
Single #1 - Fast
Single #2 - Fast
Single #2 - Slow
Title: 2nd single?
Post by: All I Ask2003 on January 09, 2005, 04:11:18 pm
Quote from: "Alyssa"
Private Radio.

Sure Who's To Say is the best musically but its not 2nd single material.

Single order goes like this:
Single #1 - Fast
Single #2 - Fast
Single #2 - Slow


EXACTLY!!
But I wouldn't necessarily say slow...more like ballad-y for the third single.
Title: 2nd single?
Post by: Afterglow on January 09, 2005, 04:41:41 pm
I see that no one is caring about the 4th single... There is a possibility... Don't lose hopes
Title: 2nd single?
Post by: All I Ask2003 on January 09, 2005, 05:11:29 pm
Quote from: "Afterglow"
I see that no one is caring about the 4th single... There is a possibility... Don't lose hopes

I don't think it's that no one is caring, we're just preoccupied with what the NEXT single will be. And of course it's possible, but it's just very unlikely...
Title: 2nd single?
Post by: Alyssa on January 10, 2005, 04:07:13 am
I hate to say it but I think she will get her head put on the chopping block by A & M if the 2nd single doesnt pick things up  :cry:
Title: 2nd single?
Post by: czarina on January 10, 2005, 09:05:43 am
Im starting to doubt we will even get a second single...
Title: 2nd single?
Post by: Chloe on January 10, 2005, 09:43:42 am
This is way off topic but I was reading through here and abouit Vanessa announcing a new single and I realized....um is it just me or has Vanessa not posted in a VERY long time? It's almost been three months. She hasn't even posted since the release of Harmonium.  :?
Title: 2nd single?
Post by: rosieposy87 on January 10, 2005, 11:21:46 am
Quote from: "AFallingStar"
This is way off topic but I was reading through here and abouit Vanessa announcing a new single and I realized....um is it just me or has Vanessa not posted in a VERY long time? It's almost been three months. She hasn't even posted since the release of Harmonium.  :?


Agreed. I hate to say it but i think she has just given up caring.
Title: 2nd single?
Post by: czarina on January 10, 2005, 11:29:27 am
I dont know if SHE has given up...but she is in a very, very tough position right now. She has entered the "dark times" of a musician. Im hoping she deals with it well.
Title: 2nd single?
Post by: amberbeads on January 10, 2005, 11:59:58 am
Yeah I'm thinking she's just laying low, bumming about how Harmonium flopped.
Title: 2nd single?
Post by: All I Ask2003 on January 10, 2005, 03:29:08 pm
I really doubt that she's not posting because she's bummed at Harmonium's sales. She initially said that the commercial success of her albums aren't important to her.
Title: 2nd single?
Post by: czarina on January 10, 2005, 06:12:18 pm
Every artist says that...but every artist also wants to do well so they can continue making music on this level.
Title: 2nd single?
Post by: Chloe on January 10, 2005, 09:28:12 pm
Quote from: "All I Ask2003"
I really doubt that she's not posting because she's bummed at Harmonium's sales. She initially said that the commercial success of her albums aren't important to her.


That's what I was thinking too. But it still has to be kind of sad you know... being so exited about the release and then just having it all go to hell. Maybe she knows that the album's not doing well and doesn't know what to tell us? Who knows.

Also... the o board has been DEAD lately.
Title: 2nd single?
Post by: I gotta wear shades on January 11, 2005, 02:30:47 am
Quote from: "czarina"
She has entered the "dark times" of a musician.


Such drama!  :lol:
Title: 2nd single?
Post by: I gotta wear shades on January 11, 2005, 02:32:52 am
Quote from: "amberbeads"
Yeah I'm thinking she's just laying low, bumming about how Harmonium flopped.


Only one single has been released.  Remove the past tense.
Title: 2nd single?
Post by: Afterglow on January 11, 2005, 03:46:31 am
Quote from: "czarina"
Im starting to doubt we will even get a second single...


Oh my God... This is sad.. Don't think of it
Title: 2nd single?
Post by: BWilli on January 11, 2005, 04:37:41 am
Quote from: "All I Ask2003"
I really doubt that she's not posting because she's bummed at Harmonium's sales. She initially said that the commercial success of her albums aren't important to her.


she posted on the o-board last night it looks like
Title: 2nd single?
Post by: czarina on January 11, 2005, 09:16:30 am
Just trying to be realistic. The second single better be a hell of a surprise hit. Her label isnt behind her at all anymore. And thats the truth...
Title: 2nd single?
Post by: Xenophanes on January 11, 2005, 09:10:59 pm
Forget Private Radio and Who's To Say. I want Time is on My Side to be the next single now. :P
Title: 2nd single?
Post by: Lord Star on January 12, 2005, 01:21:54 am
Quote from: "Xenophanes"
Forget Private Radio and Who's To Say. I want Time is on My Side to be the next single now. :P


Me too, I feel like I've just heard White Houses for the first time again... Time is on her side... hmmm???
Title: 2nd single?
Post by: Afterglow on January 12, 2005, 08:38:49 am
My God I'm so cunfused

TIME IS ON MY SIDE is a Vanessa song? Sinse when? Ahhhh... I want this song... Where can I find it
Help me

 8O
Title: 2nd single?
Post by: banet2001 on January 12, 2005, 12:10:04 pm
Quote from: "Afterglow"
My God I'm so cunfused

TIME IS ON MY SIDE is a Vanessa song? Sinse when? Ahhhh... I want this song... Where can I find it
Help me

 8O


Vanessa is covering a Rolling Stones song. That is interesting. Here is a link to Vanessa's version of the Rolling Stones song.

http://blackvulture.thiscrappyband.com/files/MainPass-TimeIsOnMySide.mp3
Title: 2nd single?
Post by: Afterglow on January 12, 2005, 01:19:37 pm
Oh My God.. I didn't know about that...

Sinse I registered in this forum, I did't look for news and now I'm so sad because everybody was knowing 'bout it and I didn't... That's so bad.. I'm feeling like I would die... I think I have to pay attention to/with the news....
Title: 2nd single?
Post by: ChocoNutz on January 12, 2005, 01:44:37 pm
Quote from: "Afterglow"
Oh My God.. I didn't know about that...

Sinse I registered in this forum, I did't look for news and now I'm so sad because everybody was knowing 'bout it and I didn't... That's so bad.. I'm feeling like I would die... I think I have to pay attention to/with the news....


or maybe get a life ;)
Title: 2nd single?
Post by: Chloe on January 12, 2005, 02:39:32 pm
the time on my side cover is really good. That shouls totally be the next single lol.

(if they ever actually release another one))
Title: 2nd single?
Post by: amberbeads on January 12, 2005, 03:00:58 pm
the new one i supposed to come out sometime this month, isn't it?
Title: 2nd single?
Post by: Chloe on January 12, 2005, 08:53:13 pm
Quote from: "amberbeads"
the new one i supposed to come out sometime this month, isn't it?


yes... but remember. Harmonium was SUPPOSED to come out in June of 2004 and look what happened. I know singles are different than the actual album but I wouldn't be surprised if it's a long time before we see a second single.
Title: 2nd single?
Post by: Until I Dont on January 12, 2005, 10:41:44 pm
Quote from: "Afterglow"
My God I'm so cunfused

TIME IS ON MY SIDE is a Vanessa song? Sinse when? Ahhhh... I want this song... Where can I find it
Help me

 8O


So now, not only are you stupid and confused, but you are CUNfused and helpless. Not to mention idiotic for stating the obvious. Curl up in the fetal position and pretend like this is one bad dream.

seu inglês não é tão pobre quanto sua personalidade. Você é somente tão esperto como as coisas que você diz.
Title: 2nd single?
Post by: Afterglow on January 13, 2005, 05:35:33 am
Quote from: "Until I Dont"
Quote from: "Afterglow"
My God I'm so cunfused

TIME IS ON MY SIDE is a Vanessa song? Sinse when? Ahhhh... I want this song... Where can I find it
Help me

 8O


So now, not only are you stupid and confused, but you are CUNfused and helpless. Not to mention idiotic for stating the obvious. Curl up in the fetal position and pretend like this is one bad dream.

seu inglês não é tão pobre quanto sua personalidade. Você é somente tão esperto como as coisas que você diz.


Really? :D
Title: 2nd single?
Post by: amberbeads on January 13, 2005, 05:37:10 am
Quote from: "AFallingStar"
Quote from: "amberbeads"
the new one i supposed to come out sometime this month, isn't it?


yes... but remember. Harmonium was SUPPOSED to come out in June of 2004 and look what happened. I know singles are different than the actual album but I wouldn't be surprised if it's a long time before we see a second single.

yes... but remember. Stephan Jenkins had a whole hell of a lot to do with those delays... He's notorious for that. So seeing as the single is really none of his business, maybe things will run on schedule this time. :)
Title: 2nd single?
Post by: Afterglow on January 13, 2005, 05:39:04 am
Quote from: "ChocoNutz"
Quote from: "Afterglow"
Oh My God.. I didn't know about that...

Sinse I registered in this forum, I did't look for news and now I'm so sad because everybody was knowing 'bout it and I didn't... That's so bad.. I'm feeling like I would die... I think I have to pay attention to/with the news....


or maybe get a life ;)


I didn't understand you
Title: 2nd single?
Post by: ChocoNutz on January 13, 2005, 06:38:16 am
Quote from: "Until I Dont"
Quote from: "Afterglow"
My God I'm so cunfused

TIME IS ON MY SIDE is a Vanessa song? Sinse when? Ahhhh... I want this song... Where can I find it
Help me

 8O


So now, not only are you stupid and confused, but you are CUNfused and helpless. Not to mention idiotic for stating the obvious. Curl up in the fetal position and pretend like this is one bad dream.

seu inglês não é tão pobre quanto sua personalidade. Você é somente tão esperto como as coisas que você diz.


 ROFL
Title: 2nd single?
Post by: ChocoNutz on January 13, 2005, 06:40:15 am
Quote from: "Afterglow"
Quote from: "ChocoNutz"
Quote from: "Afterglow"
Oh My God.. I didn't know about that...

Sinse I registered in this forum, I did't look for news and now I'm so sad because everybody was knowing 'bout it and I didn't... That's so bad.. I'm feeling like I would die... I think I have to pay attention to/with the news....


or maybe get a life ;)


I didn't understand you


What else is new?????????????
Title: 2nd single?
Post by: Afterglow on January 13, 2005, 07:05:07 am
Quote from: "ChocoNutz"
Quote from: "Afterglow"
Quote from: "ChocoNutz"
Quote from: "Afterglow"
Oh My God.. I didn't know about that...

Sinse I registered in this forum, I did't look for news and now I'm so sad because everybody was knowing 'bout it and I didn't... That's so bad.. I'm feeling like I would die... I think I have to pay attention to/with the news....


or maybe get a life ;)


I didn't understand you


What else is new?????????????


What did you write?

Maybe get a ......?
There're news but I'm too lazy to tell you
Title: 2nd single?
Post by: Scotty on January 13, 2005, 08:04:59 am
Quote from: "Afterglow"
Oh My God.. I didn't know about that...

Sinse I registered in this forum, I did't look for news and now I'm so sad because everybody was knowing 'bout it and I didn't... That's so bad.. I'm feeling like I would die... I think I have to pay attention to/with the news....


well let that be a lesson to you.
Title: 2nd single?
Post by: Afterglow on January 13, 2005, 08:36:06 am
Yeah...  :wink:
Title: 2nd single?
Post by: Emmyspiano on March 15, 2005, 07:10:14 pm
Quote from: "amberbeads"
Yeah I'm thinking she's just laying low, bumming about how Harmonium flopped.

yeah I feel soo bad for her. She always kept saying how hard she's been working how much we're going to love it. how much time was spent on the album. I personally love it, but some people dont. I just feel sort of bad. But I have faith whoot for the second single!
Title: 2nd single?
Post by: Dora on March 15, 2005, 07:18:33 pm
Quote from: "Emmyspiano"
Quote from: "amberbeads"
Yeah I'm thinking she's just laying low, bumming about how Harmonium flopped.

yeah I feel soo bad for her. She always kept saying how hard she's been working how much we're going to love it. how much time was spent on the album. I personally love it, but some people dont. I just feel sort of bad. But I have faith whoot for the second single!


I feel so bad too...Harmonium is a true work of art that should be appreciated by everyone....or at least most people!! *sigh*
Title: 2nd single?
Post by: zurielshimon on March 16, 2005, 06:22:09 am
<chime> I agree </chime>
Title: 2nd single?
Post by: Chloe on March 16, 2005, 09:40:53 am
yeah..... I agree too.

Poor Vanessa :cry:  :cry:  :cry:
Title: 2nd single?
Post by: Rose on March 17, 2005, 03:24:43 am
About the part where it went wrong; I think WH wasn't the right choice for the first single. It had too many similarities to ATM, plus I think that the vid wasn't very hip. I love her dancing, it's not that, but it just missed something that made it so special. Why not show in the video what the song says? How she arrived in that college house etc. That would make it a lot more telling and then it would probably appeal a lot more to the youth of these days...

Anyway; second single? Go for Private Radio or She Floats (but thenradio edited, so without the whole screamy part etc.) + a good vid! :)
Title: 2nd single?
Post by: reveng_desire on March 17, 2005, 02:22:52 pm
No. Not She Floats. Too...creepy...Too long, too. Lol.

I say go for either Private Radio or San Francisco. I mean, San Francisco is being SORT OF promoted on the Charmed Book of Shadows soundtrack. Why Not?
Title: 2nd single?
Post by: Jophess on March 17, 2005, 02:47:37 pm
The Grudge is better than The Ring!
[/ot]

Hmm.... I'm seriously doubting a second single.
Title: 2nd single?
Post by: reveng_desire on March 17, 2005, 02:52:52 pm
lol whatever. The Grudge was a rip off of The Ring. heh. Ring was so much scarier.

Anyways, if she doesn't release a second single, her album would still be in the Crapper section. Man, she really needs to promote this album!
Title: 2nd single?
Post by: nevereSA on March 17, 2005, 03:13:41 pm
Quote from: "reveng_desire"
Man, she really needs to promote this album!


Technically, it's her label needs to promote Vanessa better. :)
Title: 2nd single?
Post by: I gotta wear shades on March 18, 2005, 01:07:02 am
Quote from: "amberbeads"
Yeah I'm thinking she's just laying low, bumming about how Harmonium flopped.


I'm sure she doesn't consider Harmonium a flop. Do you?

What's flopping is her promotional department.  She has to do it herself and/or her fans have to help her out.
Title: 2nd single?
Post by: Vultch on March 18, 2005, 01:29:03 am
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Quote from: "amberbeads"
Yeah I'm thinking she's just laying low, bumming about how Harmonium flopped.

I'm sure she doesn't consider Harmonium a flop. Do you?

yes. face it.
Title: 2nd single?
Post by: I gotta wear shades on March 18, 2005, 04:46:11 am
Quote from: "Vultch"
Quote from: "I gotta wear shades"
Quote from: "amberbeads"
Yeah I'm thinking she's just laying low, bumming about how Harmonium flopped.

I'm sure she doesn't consider Harmonium a flop. Do you?

yes. face it.


Ah, this coming from the downloader turned host.
Title: 2nd single?
Post by: amberbeads on March 18, 2005, 08:06:59 am
Quote from: "I gotta wear shades"
Quote from: "amberbeads"
Yeah I'm thinking she's just laying low, bumming about how Harmonium flopped.


I'm sure she doesn't consider Harmonium a flop. Do you?

Yes.
And get the fuck off of BV. Everyone who knew about that site went out and bought AT LEAST one copy of Harmonium the freaking day it came out, regardless. His site did NOT hurt her sales. Poor choice of debut single, a video that wasn't exactly eye-catching, close to no promo, THAT'S why it flopped, not because of Kevin.
Title: 2nd single?
Post by: Will on March 18, 2005, 04:09:05 pm
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Quote from: "Vultch"
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Quote from: "amberbeads"
Yeah I'm thinking she's just laying low, bumming about how Harmonium flopped.

I'm sure she doesn't consider Harmonium a flop. Do you?

yes. face it.


Ah, this coming from the downloader turned host.


Do you ever learn to shut up?
Title: 2nd single?
Post by: B on March 18, 2005, 05:20:07 pm
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Quote from: "amberbeads"
Yeah I'm thinking she's just laying low, bumming about how Harmonium flopped.

I'm sure she doesn't consider Harmonium a flop. Do you?

yes. face it.


Ah, this coming from the downloader turned host.


And the same person who has promoted the hell out of Vanessa for 3 years, causing dozens and dozens of people to buy one (or in some cases, several) of each Vanessa CD. Don't forget that, either.

... and for a general commentary, most of us here have more than one copy of Harmonium, and that tells you right there the hardcore fans are doing their part. She has absolutely no label promotion or direction, because if she did there would be a new single by now. And by playing colleges, casinos, and just hugging the east coast she really isn't doing herself any favors nationwide, either.
Title: 2nd single?
Post by: Jophess on March 18, 2005, 05:51:20 pm
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Quote from: "amberbeads"
Yeah I'm thinking she's just laying low, bumming about how Harmonium flopped.

I'm sure she doesn't consider Harmonium a flop. Do you?

yes. face it.

Ah, this coming from the downloader turned host.

Oh, STFU!
As amberbeads said (Chloe? I can never remember her name EDIT : Natalie, sorry!) everyone who knew about the site bought at least one copy the first day. I bought two in the first week.
I really don't have anything to add, excpet STFU. Everyone else has said what's on my mind.
Title: 2nd single?
Post by: Ghisy on March 18, 2005, 09:48:49 pm
Quote from: "I gotta wear shades"
Ah, this coming from the downloader turned host.

Just fyi and like B said, everyone here bought at least one copy of Harmonium (I had the "leaked" album and ended up buying 6 copies of it so shut up!)
Title: 2nd single?
Post by: amberbeads on March 19, 2005, 12:01:43 pm
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Quote from: "I gotta wear shades"
Ah, this coming from the downloader turned host.

Just fyi and like B said, everyone here bought at least one copy of Harmonium (I had the "leaked" album and ended up buying 6 copies of it so shut up!)

I downloaded it when it leaked and bought 2 the day it came out.
Title: 2nd single?
Post by: rosieposy87 on March 19, 2005, 02:48:54 pm
LOL i don't know why you're all trying to justify yourselves to this idiot who has claimed to have a monopoly on the Vanessa Moral Highground for years now. POUR ME A PINT OF BOVERED SHADES!
Title: 2nd single?
Post by: Vultch on March 19, 2005, 03:03:19 pm
5 months later, Brad(Shades) still has a chip on his shoulder. sad.
I bought a couple copies of the CD like most the other fans, and the fans are the ones that had the leaks.

The fans all bought it, the general public didnt, thats the truth of it and why it flopped. Thank the record label for that.
Look at Avril's sophmore album. Single after single after single after single. That's how you promote an album. One song wont make an album huge, release 5 songs to radio, you'll see results.

Kelly Clarkson released a CD only a week or two after Vanessa. She's already had 2 singles and the 3rd single "Behind These Hazel Eyes" will be going to radio in a couple weeks.

Then there's Vanessa. "White Houses" barely made a dent, but no other singles, so the album flops because nothing more gets heard.
It's all about promotion, GET IT HEARD any way possible.
Give the girl her own reality tv show, she'll sell some CDs.
Coming soon to VH1: Strange Love 2: Nessa & Jenkins
It would work.

But Harmonium has been shelved, its over.
Title: 2nd single?
Post by: Dora on March 19, 2005, 04:16:01 pm
Quote from: "Vultch"

Coming soon to VH1: Strange Love 2: Nessa & Jenkins


*falls off chair*

BRILLIANT. ;)
Title: 2nd single?
Post by: Will on March 19, 2005, 04:28:05 pm
I often wonder how Vanessa feels about so many of her fans hating Jenkins.
Title: 2nd single?
Post by: Emmyspiano on March 19, 2005, 05:16:28 pm
I wonder if she acually liked doing that show...she always wanted her love with him to be kind of private
Title: 2nd single?
Post by: Dora on March 19, 2005, 05:37:46 pm
Alot of people I know don't like him and say he's a perv :o

personally I don't know him, and in Nessa's wonderful words

Who's to say?
Title: 2nd single?
Post by: Afterglow on March 19, 2005, 05:46:06 pm
Quote from: "em one twenty-five boy"
I often wonder how Vanessa feels about so many of her fans hating Jenkins.


He's just a case of morning kick
Title: 2nd single?
Post by: Chloe on March 19, 2005, 09:50:33 pm
Quote from: "Afterglow"
Quote from: "em one twenty-five boy"
I often wonder how Vanessa feels about so many of her fans hating Jenkins.


He's just a case of morning kick


kick? O_o
Title: 2nd single?
Post by: Jophess on March 20, 2005, 07:23:18 am
Quote from: "Chloe"
Quote from: "Afterglow"
Quote from: "em one twenty-five boy"
I often wonder how Vanessa feels about so many of her fans hating Jenkins.


He's just a case of morning kick

kick? O_o

Don't think too hard. It's Afterglow.
Title: 2nd single?
Post by: Afterglow on March 20, 2005, 07:26:54 am
Quote from: "Jophess"
Quote from: "Chloe"
Quote from: "Afterglow"
Quote from: "em one twenty-five boy"
I often wonder how Vanessa feels about so many of her fans hating Jenkins.


He's just a case of morning kick

kick? O_o

Don't think too hard. It's Afterglow.


I'm unique :wink:
Title: 2nd single?
Post by: reveng_desire on March 20, 2005, 11:30:13 am
Jenkins gets on my nerves. Nessa can have him but as long as he's not with her EVERY HOUR of EVERY DAY and she doesn't talk about him EVERY HOUR of EVERY DAY, I'll be fine.
Title: 2nd single?
Post by: amberbeads on March 20, 2005, 02:13:26 pm
Quote from: "Dora"
Quote from: "Vultch"

Coming soon to VH1: Strange Love 2: Nessa & Jenkins


*falls off chair*

BRILLIANT. ;)

Please God no.