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Title: 10/25/2004: The Odeon - Cleveland, OH (review)
Post by: Vultch on October 25, 2004, 12:48:04 pm
[discussion] (http://forums.nessaholics.com/viewtopic.php?t=6738)

from Katia:
(http://blackvulture.thiscrappyband.com/files/vc-clev18.jpg)

(http://blackvulture.thiscrappyband.com/files/vc-clev19.jpg)

very ghetto
Title: 10/25/2004: The Odeon - Cleveland, OH (review)
Post by: B on October 25, 2004, 12:53:27 pm
Damn, straight for real ghetto, LOL.

LMAO @ the bus being right in front of the venue, that's even more ghetto than Park West where it is on the side, lol.
Title: 10/25/2004: The Odeon - Cleveland, OH (review)
Post by: ILoveHanson on October 25, 2004, 12:54:55 pm
OMG *tear* that brings back memories of when i slept overnight outside those doors in the FREEZING COLD on 10/13/03.
for hanson of course :)
Title: 10/25/2004: The Odeon - Cleveland, OH (review)
Post by: kaysha on October 25, 2004, 08:27:22 pm
Tonight will go down in history as my most frustrating and enjoyable VC concert evar!  It was frustrating because of one member of the odeon staff and enjoyable because V (of course) was fantastic and on top of just performing superbly her interactions with fans were top notch!

First off, the setlist was:
Papa
San Francisco
Ordinary Day
Who's To Say
Swindler
Afterglow
White Houses
Half a week before the winter
C'est La Vie
Wanted
Rinse
She Floats
Annie
The Wreckage
A Thousand Miles

** Encore **

Twilight


So i got to meet 1vcfan and angelcorrine which was one of the highlights of the night.  Both are mad cool and hope to catch up with them again in the future... just not at The Odeon.

Vanessa seemed very tired however she still put on a hell of a show.  From what i gather they had driven all night to pull into Cleveland this morning.  I first saw her at the Q show (thanks Roy!) where she did a quick meet & greet with a picture + autographed headshot (will scan later).  Then she performed 3 songs (WH, Afterglow and ATM) and answered a few questions.  I um... asked about Morning Sting not making the CD :)  She said she really wanted to keep it to 10 tracks and it basically just didn't "fit."  

Rolled out of there and checked into a hotel... then took Grams down to where The Odeon is.  I *assumed* (you know what happens when you assume things?) that there would be something around the venue but that whole area is pretty desolate.  We grabbed some dinner next door at the ONLY restaurant around and then chilled in line... we ended up being the second peeps.  I got to chatting with quite a few people that got there early... we'll see if they pop their heads in here :)

They let us in, i went to the usual spot and grams took a seat by the wall.

Low Millions... they're growing on me as i'm familiar with the songs heh... they had some house sound issues of some sort but Adam made humor of the situation with a nice recovery.

FYE is there and... guess what?  They're selling copies of Harmonium for $15 plus an opportunity to meet Vanessa and get the CD COVER SIGNED!  (Yes, I am in possession of a Harmonium CD cover).  So she holla's to nessaholics in the CD!  How cool is that?  I <3 V so much... that is like a personal shout out to all fans -- mad cool!

V takes stage and all is well of course... for a while.  She begins doing didley's between songs, playing a bit of chopin and trying to figure out if she can write a song in front of people... i think :)  She called afterglow one of her favs (and not her fav) this time tho.  Now the issue with this show is... LIGHTING ISSUES!  So they had these STUPID ASS lights that were blue/orange/red whatever and they would have one of them lit on the back of the stage facing the crowd at random times... so if you took a picture V either looked red, or blue, or whatever and half the time she was glowing.  It majorly sucked ass... and it was somewhat hazy.  Cameras with leaving their shutters open the way they do, we're talking like 1/4th of pictures *may* come out.  Half the people are using flash and getting told not to one by one by staff because no one could have posted a sign or made an announcement on the way in.  Of course that was annoying me cuz i felt bad for V getting flashed from all over the place.  So here is my issue (since everyone was asking and wondering...)
Over halfway through the show I was getting frustrated about this lighting issue and the fact that no pictures were coming through so i set my camera to take a movie (which allows the camera time to focus for a bit) and ultimately you get a decent shot.  My camera takes mpegs at 640x480 which is what i post all pics at anyway even if i take them at higher resolution.  So I figured i would load the mpeg into a video editor and just pull out a couple decent shots and be done with it.  Well, during this small process this staff member at Odeon takes my camera.  So already I'm pissed because all the people using flash didn't have their cameras taken and I wasn't about to start a mess in the middle of the show so he says I can get it after the show at the box office.  So after the show I go back to the box office and ask for my camera.  They'll only give it to me if i'm leaving... well I had to get this FYE thing signed.  So I go back and forth with this guy that had taken it in the first place and he is just incredibly unpleasant on many levels.  Finally i decide screw the autograph and i'll just grab my camera.  I get my camera and head out to leave the venue and my memory stick is gone!  (How NICE of them to tell me this).  So I go back inside and ask the gentleman that had given it to me and he radios someone else who responds with "It's property of the tour."  I tell them i'm not leaving without it and ultimately we're not making any progress.  Finally I ask "By property of the tour do you mean Mark?" .. he says Yes.  So I begin to go up to talk to Mark and he yells at me to go stand in this specific spot and wait.  There was some continued bickering, glaring and in the end I talked to Mark once he was done with everything and he gave it to me without any issues... of course, mad props to Mark.  I think he is a neat guy -- not only does he make Vanessa sound great but he's a hard ass when he needs to be and a sweetie at other times.

So here is another awesome part about Vanessa.... She comes to the venue and signs for people on the way in to soundcheck... she does this HUGE ASS LINE for FYE at the end of the night... then she comes out to do pictures and autographs for a few people that had stayed even later!  Everyone was taken care of, no one was left out.

So i despise this individual at Odeon... i have even more respect for Mark if possible... and V is as good as always.

-katia

p.s. Fuck this one guy at Odeon (just had to get that out).  The other staff peeps seemed mad cool.

p.s.2. I bought some little Jeremiah stickers... teehee

EDIT:
p.s.3. peeping the pictures... tons of them came out as shit (by my standards) with V looking like she is possessed.
Title: 10/25/2004: The Odeon - Cleveland, OH (review)
Post by: B on October 25, 2004, 08:39:39 pm
That is some BS. Kind of how at Park West 2343635 people are taking multiple pics with flash (including the chick behind you with the telezoom lens), I take 1 with a disposable and they yell at me.  :roll:

I can't believe they tried to straight jack your memory stick. That's not cool. Sounds like a good show, though. Can't wait to see pix.  :D
Title: 10/25/2004: The Odeon - Cleveland, OH (review)
Post by: loveplasticlove on October 25, 2004, 08:39:50 pm
what a butthead! You're next show will be better because I'll be there with you ;) mwahha
Title: 10/25/2004: The Odeon - Cleveland, OH (review)
Post by: kaysha on October 25, 2004, 08:45:23 pm
I would just like to add... what kind of nut would try to get decent audio recording on a camera with those conditions?  peeps singing everywhere, some dude taking professional pics in front of me (*click* *click* *click*) and it was hella loud... um distortion?  that one Odeon dude was just unreasonable.  Thanks for your comments and sympathy :-P
Title: 10/25/2004: The Odeon - Cleveland, OH (review)
Post by: loveplasticlove on October 25, 2004, 08:47:57 pm
Quote from: "katia"
I would just like to add... what kind of nut would try to get decent audio recording on a camera with those conditions?  peeps singing everywhere, some dude taking professional pics in front of me (*click* *click* *click*) and it was hella loud... um distortion?  that one Odeon dude was just unreasonable.  Thanks for your comments and sympathy :-P



awwwwww poor kat

/extra sympathy
Title: 10/25/2004: The Odeon - Cleveland, OH (review)
Post by: eclv on October 25, 2004, 08:48:43 pm
Wow, is that why? Cause you were taking an mpeg?

Yeah, he should have told you he jacked your memory stick. They need to specify no cameras or no records of any kind or something. West Park didn't have any camera info and that happened to Brian.

Was it seated too?
Title: 10/25/2004: The Odeon - Cleveland, OH (review)
Post by: B on October 25, 2004, 08:50:20 pm
They really need to be more clear with camera rules... and even so, if they are gonna be anal they need to go around and take everyone's camera, or do what the rave does here and pat you down and straight beeper wand you before you go in.

That is BS about the memory stick, too. Hardly anyone would think to check if their memory stick was still there.  :evil:
Title: 10/25/2004: The Odeon - Cleveland, OH (review)
Post by: kaysha on October 25, 2004, 08:52:06 pm
Well he walked me out to a sign that was posted where no one would think to look and showed "no recording devices" but it also was like "no cameras" and that was obviously not the case.  I guess through osmosis i'm supposed to know which rules apply per day... what about the bands that condone recording devices?  What if V was one of them? (counting crows..) and that isn't even the point because i didn't want a recording anyway because i didn't have anything for recording)(*@U#

btw, some other questions have come up that i kept forgetting to add :)

Grams totally dug the show, she likes teh VC very much...awww :)

She also got the liner notes signed for me while i was waiting for Mark.  She took it back to VC herself lol and said "It is for my grandaughter, katia" so V made it out to me and asked if she had liked the show etc.

hahaa

-katia
Title: 10/25/2004: The Odeon - Cleveland, OH (review)
Post by: Dancernl on October 25, 2004, 08:54:50 pm
wow, Katia, thanks for sharing all that!  I hate camera rules, sorry that happened to you.  Are the copies of Harmonium the enhanced CD's?  If so have you watched it?
Title: 10/25/2004: The Odeon - Cleveland, OH (review)
Post by: eclv on October 25, 2004, 08:55:29 pm
awe, that was nice of Grams.
Title: 10/25/2004: The Odeon - Cleveland, OH (review)
Post by: kaysha on October 25, 2004, 08:56:19 pm
Quote from: "Dancernl"
wow, Katia, thanks for sharing all that!  I hate camera rules, sorry that happened to you.  Are the copies of Harmonium the enhanced CD's?  If so have you watched it?
Just the liner, not the CD.  I have to go to a FYE on the 9th to get the CD.

I would also like to add that this makes 4 or 5 copies of the CD that i have pre-ordered through various sources   :twisted:
Title: 10/25/2004: The Odeon - Cleveland, OH (review)
Post by: Dancernl on October 25, 2004, 08:57:24 pm
Quote from: "katia"
Quote from: "Dancernl"
wow, Katia, thanks for sharing all that!  I hate camera rules, sorry that happened to you.  Are the copies of Harmonium the enhanced CD's?  If so have you watched it?
Just the liner, not the CD.  I have to go to a FYE on the 9th to get the CD.

I would also like to add that this makes 4 or 5 copies of the CD that i have pre-ordered through various sources   :twisted:

oooo, ok, thanks for clarifying!
Title: 10/25/2004: The Odeon - Cleveland, OH (review)
Post by: loveplasticlove on October 25, 2004, 09:01:20 pm
ahhaha at the osmosis comment!
Title: 10/25/2004: The Odeon - Cleveland, OH (review)
Post by: tylor2000 on October 25, 2004, 09:38:49 pm
Playing Chopin, and seeing if she can write a song in front of people? YEAH! :D

tylor
Title: 10/25/2004: The Odeon - Cleveland, OH (review)
Post by: rockstr009 on October 26, 2004, 06:10:47 am
hey so i figured i'd register and share at least a few of my pics.. lol

i was with the girl with the lond blond/blue hair, we were talking to the whole front-of-the-line group. i didn't really take that many pictures because i was in an awkward place and i'm short, so when she was playing her piano, i couldn't see much of her.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v119/rockstr009/nessa.png)
in all fairness, the odeon's not THAT ghetto. :P this is facing away from the odeon, while in line. it's kind of nice. also, it's down in the flats/warehouse district which is below city level, it's where all the clubs and stuff are.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v119/rockstr009/nessa1.png)
interesting outfit.  :P

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v119/rockstr009/nessa2.png)
i forget during which song this was, but it was the only one she played on the electronic keyboard.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v119/rockstr009/nessa3.png)
this would have been a good pic if i didn't suck at timing.

also, i have like... a 10 second .mov file of the chorus from "white houses", but i don't have anywhere to host it. so if you want, i can send it to you and you can use it here or whatever!!  :)
Title: 10/25/2004: The Odeon - Cleveland, OH (review)
Post by: joann on October 26, 2004, 06:19:57 am
noice!

ooooooo.......V got new tour boots!

katia: no pain no gain, you rawk!
Title: 10/25/2004: The Odeon - Cleveland, OH (review)
Post by: rockstr009 on October 26, 2004, 06:34:58 am
when she walked past us to go in and do her soundcheck, she had on these really kickass pink combat boots. they were awesome.
Title: 10/25/2004: The Odeon - Cleveland, OH (review)
Post by: kaysha on October 26, 2004, 06:42:07 am
Quote from: "joann"
katia: no pain no gain, you rawk!
so true :)

Quote from: "rockstr009"
when she walked past us to go in and do her soundcheck, she had on these really kickass pink combat boots. they were awesome.
(http://www.nessaholics.com/gallery/albums/11-25-2004a/aaa.jpg)

teehee, pink boots... lol
Title: 10/25/2004: The Odeon - Cleveland, OH (review)
Post by: eclv on October 26, 2004, 07:06:54 am
Quote from: "rockstr009"
hey so i figured i'd register and share at least a few of my pics.. lol

i was with the girl with the lond blond/blue hair, we were talking to the whole front-of-the-line group. i didn't really take that many pictures because i was in an awkward place and i'm short, so when she was playing her piano, i couldn't see much of her.


Thanks for coming to share your thoughts and pictures.  :)
Title: 10/25/2004: The Odeon - Cleveland, OH (review)
Post by: amberbeads on October 26, 2004, 01:00:33 pm
Katia was it just me or did their sound system TOTALLY make her sound like Mickey Mouse for the first few songs?

I loved (LOVED) this concert... It was my first VC concert and she did AMAZINGLY. I love Harmonium and I loved hearing all the songs live (no Morning Sting, but she DID play Swindler which made me totally happy).
I'm completely broke and could not afford the CD reserve thing, so I waited by the bus, and V came out of the venue and got on the bus, and then got back OFF her NICE, WARM tour bus and came out into the freezing cold (which I was not prepared for-- bad planning on my part, and I'm even FROM northern Ohio!!) to sign autographs for those of us who appeared to have been to cheap to reserve her new album (or so it seemed). I thought that was pretty damn nice of her.
I had her sign my BNN piano book, except I only had the cover, because like the crazy dork I am, I've played it so much it fell off, which I told V in the midst of my awkward OMG IT'S A CELEBRITY!!! geekiness, and she said, "Oh my gosh, that's awesome!" and I didn't feel quite so uncool.
My take on Low Millions was... I guess I'd call them a mix between Prince, Nine Days, and Maroon 5 (if you can actually picture that). I'm not really sure how I feel about them. I'll decide once I go to their site and check out their studio stuff.
So this concert was frickin AWESOME, I'm SO GLAD I got to go, and to all you Nessaholics there, I'm SOOOOO sad I missed you, I would've loved to meet up with you!!!!!!
Title: 10/25/2004: The Odeon - Cleveland, OH (review)
Post by: 1vcfan on October 26, 2004, 03:33:50 pm
((its a short one!!))

Wow! What a fun concert! (minus standing on 3 inch stilettos for 5 hours)
V was amazing- but then again what else is new?  It was awesome that you could preorder Harmonium and get the CD booklet with it- props to the 'nessaholics' mention in it! lol

I enjoyed meeting the other Nessaholics that were there- it was a good time!!

The concert security people were a pain in the ass though- FOR SURE.


I'll write more later- I have to bolt!
Title: 10/25/2004: The Odeon - Cleveland, OH (review)
Post by: amberbeads on October 26, 2004, 03:41:41 pm
Where were you in the crowd?
Title: 10/25/2004: The Odeon - Cleveland, OH (review)
Post by: 1vcfan on October 26, 2004, 03:48:14 pm
front and center- i had a maroon shirt, jeans, and white stilettos- and dark brown hair lol

where were you?
Title: 10/25/2004: The Odeon - Cleveland, OH (review)
Post by: amberbeads on October 26, 2004, 04:04:57 pm
Front row between center and stage left (the right of the audience). I know you'd told me what you'd be wearing but the only person I noticed wearing something similar was a girl who talked in French (I think) to this other girl the entire time...
Title: 10/25/2004: The Odeon - Cleveland, OH (review)
Post by: 1vcfan on October 26, 2004, 04:17:00 pm
hmm i might have seen you?


what were you wearing?
Title: 10/25/2004: The Odeon - Cleveland, OH (review)
Post by: amberbeads on October 26, 2004, 04:53:53 pm
black pinstripes, a black 3/4 length jacket thing, and i had my hair up.
Title: 10/25/2004: The Odeon - Cleveland, OH (review)
Post by: rockstr009 on October 26, 2004, 05:25:01 pm
thanks to Bee, you can see the video here (http://vcfreak.totalfans.net/vcodeonwhs.MOV). it's about 2MG, 10 seconds long (short chorus from White Houses).

enjoy!! :)[/url]
Title: 10/25/2004: The Odeon - Cleveland, OH (review)
Post by: party on October 26, 2004, 05:41:11 pm
I really enjoyed the show. VC sounded so strong, she pounded out the music and the words, 'twas awesome. She acted real cute and seemed happy to be there. I stood by the bar till VC was about to take the stage, then we moved in on the right, and I could view her from across the piano, maybe over 5 people. I swear she kept looking right at me!! I love when she does that... From this vantage point it looked and sounded perfect.

The asshole from the Odeon was a jerk! I know the guys from FYE, I'll find out how many of the CD inserts they gave out. I figure Vanessa just about crapped when she saw the huge line of people waiting for sigs, it was like almost everybody that was there!!!!

I sure do miss the band, tho'. I'll never forget the feeling of when the band would join her onstage and she would launch into "Unsung", or when she moved about the stage rockin' with "Sway" or she would stand on the piano bench for "Paint It Black"... She did suggest at one point last night that she would eventually add a band to this tour, so I'm there for that...

Overall: Happy, Happy, Happy.... 8)

Roy
Title: 10/25/2004: The Odeon - Cleveland, OH (review)
Post by: Vultch on October 26, 2004, 06:05:17 pm
Quote from: "party"
She did suggest at one point last night that she would eventually add a band to this tour

thats good news :)
Title: 10/25/2004: The Odeon - Cleveland, OH (review)
Post by: tricia on October 26, 2004, 06:55:15 pm
did the place seem packed, or what?

I'm curious as to the percentage of tickets selling so I know how crowded I'll be. ;)
Title: 10/25/2004: The Odeon - Cleveland, OH (review)
Post by: kaysha on October 26, 2004, 07:10:05 pm
place held 981 people... there couldn't have been more than 400 there.

-katia
Title: 10/25/2004: The Odeon - Cleveland, OH (review)
Post by: amberbeads on October 26, 2004, 07:24:52 pm
It didn't even seem like that many, acutally.
Title: 10/25/2004: The Odeon - Cleveland, OH (review)
Post by: rockstr009 on October 27, 2004, 05:12:10 pm
yeah, i would have guessed somewhere around 250.
Title: 10/25/2004: The Odeon - Cleveland, OH (review)
Post by: amberbeads on November 02, 2004, 12:22:29 pm
After some careful maneuvering, I've finally deemed my photo with Nessa appropriate for posting.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v364/amberbeads/Graphics/retouchsm.jpg)
Whether it looks Photoshopped or not, oh well. It is. And that's because my POS camera opened with the film exposed, and they managed to salvage JUST THIS ONE, and it was strange and rainbow. So this is better than before, and if you don't believe me I'll post the before and you can see for yourselves. :x
Title: 10/25/2004: The Odeon - Cleveland, OH (review)
Post by: 1vcfan on November 04, 2004, 04:23:08 pm
heres my pic as promised!

its a little screwed up though lol

http://tinypic.com/fyq6e