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Title: Afterglow...sex?
Post by: Lord Star on November 08, 2004, 02:19:37 am
Why do some people think that Afterglow is about sex?
Title: Afterglow...sex?
Post by: Jophess on November 08, 2004, 04:41:03 am
I think it was a joke, because after people thought WH was about sex, she said this song ISN'T about sex. I don't think anybody thinks that....

On a different note, ONE MORE DAY!
Title: Afterglow...sex?
Post by: DeepWithinMyself on November 08, 2004, 06:11:16 am
I don't think its about sex  :?  but then again what we think a song is about the person who wrote it, could mean it a different way so i dunno..lol..

yup ONE more day!! YAY
Title: Afterglow...sex?
Post by: amberbeads on November 08, 2004, 07:38:21 am
I think it's about getting high (for real).
Title: Afterglow...sex?
Post by: DeepWithinMyself on November 08, 2004, 07:39:45 am
could be :wink:

I would think she floats would be a good high song..LOL
Title: Afterglow...sex?
Post by: amberbeads on November 08, 2004, 07:44:31 am
If you could see WHAT'S COME OVER ME then you would know 'cause I'm walking free, the wind at my back and BATHED IN AFTERGLOW.
AS I SIT HERE IN THIS DARK ROOM ALL I SEEM TO FEEL IS LIGHT.
And she walks the streets she never knew... Are those metaphorical? Streets in her mind??
"Let me down and feel the day's gone by." Coming down from a high.
Yeah so I seriously think this song is about drugs.
Title: Afterglow...sex?
Post by: rosieposy87 on November 08, 2004, 08:01:22 am
I don't! I think its about falling in love, and feeling so content and happy that 'all you seem to feel is light'. Also, about trying to tell that person that you love them- "if you could see...then you would know." I know its cheesy but it makes way more sense than being high. The mood of the song doesn't fit drugs either- something like She Floats does.
Title: Afterglow...sex?
Post by: kev222 on November 08, 2004, 08:41:43 am
I think it's about having sex while high. Clearly.

-Kev
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Post by: Si on November 08, 2004, 08:47:03 am
Quote from: "kev222"
I think it's about having sex while high. Clearly.

-Kev


lmao
Good observation, Kev
Title: Afterglow...sex?
Post by: Katia's Lover on November 08, 2004, 08:52:12 am
I think it's about having sex with Todd.

-Todd
Title: Afterglow...sex?
Post by: kev222 on November 08, 2004, 08:57:44 am
Quote from: "Katia's Lover"
I think it's about having sex with Todd.

-Todd

While high of course? Well, they'd have to be surely? :dr evil:

-Kev
Title: Afterglow...sex?
Post by: DeepWithinMyself on November 08, 2004, 09:03:46 am
mm sex and high, well hey if Vanessa can make it work why not...haha
Title: Afterglow...sex?
Post by: Katia's Lover on November 08, 2004, 09:10:17 am
Quote from: "kev222"
Quote from: "Katia's Lover"
I think it's about having sex with Todd.

-Todd

While high of course? Well, they'd have to be surely? :dr evil:

-Kev


I prefer the drunk ones to the high ones.  Second hand smoke can kill you, you know?  

Todd
Title: Afterglow...sex?
Post by: DeepWithinMyself on November 08, 2004, 09:14:20 am
That's true, but to much sex can kill ya too  :wink:
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Post by: Katia's Lover on November 08, 2004, 09:15:48 am
Quote from: "DeepWithinMyself"
That's true, but to much sex can kill ya too  :wink:


I have been getting rather ill lately...
Title: Afterglow...sex?
Post by: DeepWithinMyself on November 08, 2004, 09:18:10 am
Then you better slow down then, don't want to kill yourself with a hearttack now. Don't want to drop dead in the middle of the act.  :wink:
Title: Afterglow...sex?
Post by: keith on November 08, 2004, 12:48:31 pm
An afterglow is that moment when the sex is over where two people lie in each other arms.

af·ter·glow
n.
The atmospheric glow that remains for a short time after sunset.
The light emitted after removal of a source of energy, especially:
The glow of an incandescent metal as it cools.
The emission of light from a phosphor after removal of excitation.
The comfortable feeling following a pleasant experience. A lingering impression of past glory or success.


 Get it? "Bathe in the afterglow?"
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Post by: jessica73 on November 08, 2004, 12:56:12 pm
Yes... like getting high. :|
I have bad memories of afterglows of the kind Keith is describing. :|
Title: Afterglow...sex?
Post by: DeepWithinMyself on November 08, 2004, 02:09:46 pm
eh i never try to figure out songs, to deep even for me..lol.
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Post by: blueglove on November 08, 2004, 02:10:08 pm
Quote from: "Nagyovafan"
I think it was a joke, because after people thought WH was about sex, she said this song ISN'T about sex. I don't think anybody thinks that....

On a different note, ONE MORE DAY!


wooo wate she said it isn't JUST about sex
Title: Afterglow...sex?
Post by: B on November 08, 2004, 02:22:23 pm
Quote from: "DeepWithinMyself"
I would think she floats would be a good high song..LOL


I always thought She Floats was about being high, LOL.  8)

Quote from: "kev222"
I think it's about having sex while high. Clearly.

-Kev


Wrong! That's Half A Week Before The Winter!  :razz:  :twisted:
Title: Afterglow...sex?
Post by: loveplasticlove on November 08, 2004, 02:42:45 pm
Quote from: "Tha Blingster"
Quote from: "DeepWithinMyself"
I would think she floats would be a good high song..LOL


I always thought She Floats was about being high, LOL.  8)

Quote from: "kev222"
I think it's about having sex while high. Clearly.

-Kev


Wrong! That's Half A Week Before The Winter!  :razz:  :twisted:

hahaha
Title: Afterglow...sex?
Post by: B on November 08, 2004, 02:43:39 pm
Quote from: "loveplasticlove"
Quote from: "Tha Blingster"
Quote from: "DeepWithinMyself"
I would think she floats would be a good high song..LOL


I always thought She Floats was about being high, LOL.  8)

Quote from: "kev222"
I think it's about having sex while high. Clearly.

-Kev


Wrong! That's Half A Week Before The Winter!  :razz:  :twisted:

hahaha


You know what I'm talkin' about!!  :wink:
Title: Afterglow...sex?
Post by: TurnOnTheStars on November 08, 2004, 06:21:41 pm
hahaha this is too funny  :lol:
Title: Afterglow...sex?
Post by: Lord Star on November 08, 2004, 07:01:28 pm
And I thought that Afterglow was about sharing sunsets with your loved one! Ahaaaaaaaa

Wow! Im proud to be the owner of this thread!!!!! :razz:  :twisted:
Title: Afterglow...sex?
Post by: Ghisy on November 08, 2004, 10:24:37 pm
Quote from: "Tha Blingster"
Wrong! That's Half A Week Before The Winter!  :razz:  :twisted:

 :roll:
Title: Afterglow...sex?
Post by: B on November 08, 2004, 10:37:04 pm
Quote from: "Ghisy"
Quote from: "Tha Blingster"
Wrong! That's Half A Week Before The Winter!  :razz:  :twisted:

 :roll:


Don't hate, it's just a joke LOL.  :razz:
Title: Afterglow...sex?
Post by: zurielshimon on November 09, 2004, 06:27:18 am
Okay, before I say anything I want to make it perfectly clear that I do not intend to compare the indefectible Vanessa Carlton with the reproachable Christina Aguilera because such a thing would be flameworthy beyond perception.  But that said, Christina said that "Genie in a Bottle" was not about sex, but the words clearly are about sex.

So maybe "White Houses" and "Afterglow" have double meanings, but the denotation can't be ignored.

But my question is since it was mentioned, if "White Houses" isn't about sex, then what is it about??? :?
Title: Afterglow...sex?
Post by: DeepWithinMyself on November 09, 2004, 07:36:08 am
Goes back to my point that writers write songs in there mind, just cause we think its about one thing, the writer means something else.
Title: Afterglow...sex?
Post by: zurielshimon on November 09, 2004, 07:45:54 am
My new album will be coming out in July of next year, and on it there are songs that sound like they're about weather and shopping and just hanging out with friends, but they're not.  Every song on the album is really about sex. :lol:
Title: Afterglow...sex?
Post by: DeepWithinMyself on November 09, 2004, 07:48:00 am
Can't go wrong with a little sex :lol:
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Post by: Lord Star on November 10, 2004, 02:08:57 am
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Can't go wrong with a little sex   :lol:


AHAHAHA! The first time I heard that it sounds like a condom commercial!lol!
Title: Afterglow...sex?
Post by: DeepWithinMyself on November 10, 2004, 06:11:04 am
Well if your talking about sex, gotta talk about them condoms now, gotta protect yourself :wink:  :lol:
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Post by: nyctraci on November 10, 2004, 10:06:50 am
she said at the nyc 11/2 show that "afterglow" was NOT about sex. she did say what it WAS about...i think. i don't remember that part, but i do remember that it is definitely not about sex.
Title: Afterglow...sex?
Post by: DeepWithinMyself on November 10, 2004, 10:08:27 am
I thought she said on the video on the cd that this album was very sexual album 8O  i could be wrong, maybe i heard it wrong.
Title: Afterglow...sex?
Post by: NESSAussie on November 12, 2004, 06:00:09 am
All I know is I'm going to play 'Afterglow' when I vacate my current job  8)

(http://www.sonymusic.com.au/au/images/myhomepage/myphoto/cadenus.jpg)
Title: Afterglow...sex?
Post by: dashbranch on November 13, 2004, 03:59:46 pm
This is the funniest thread ever. OMG!  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
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Post by: Lord Star on November 14, 2004, 02:39:49 am
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This is the funniest thread ever. OMG!    :lol:   :lol:  :lol:


Oh yeah! Damn proud!
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Post by: DeepWithinMyself on November 14, 2004, 12:05:06 pm
I know really its entertaining to read  :lol:
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Post by: zurielshimon on November 15, 2004, 07:39:57 am
:?: But still no-one has answered my kweschon. :?
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Post by: DeepWithinMyself on November 15, 2004, 01:26:15 pm
mm i still don't know why, i don't think its about sex, but then again i don't always try to figure out songs *shrugs*
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Post by: Steveau on November 15, 2004, 02:37:04 pm
she said yesterday that it wasn't about sex
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Post by: Xenophanes on November 15, 2004, 04:29:16 pm
Quote from: "Steveau"
she said yesterday that it wasn't about sex

And therefore...at the risk of being mildly obnoxious..

THE PACT IS SEALED!!!!![/color][/b]

 :lol:

...meaning that it's definitely not about sex. 8)
Title: Afterglow...sex?
Post by: LimeTwister on November 15, 2004, 06:22:33 pm
or, that she doesn't want to admit it...
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Post by: DeepWithinMyself on November 15, 2004, 07:51:20 pm
Vanessa has spoken. So its is a done deal.  :wink:
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Post by: zurielshimon on November 16, 2004, 09:24:23 am
:?: But then what's it about? :?
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Post by: Jessica on November 16, 2004, 10:42:43 am
she said herself it wasnt about sex. lmao
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Post by: Laura on November 17, 2004, 08:43:30 pm
lol yea at the show last night she said that & I started laughing & instantly thought of this thread, lmao. I don't remember if she said what it's about. I don't think she did at my show unless I just don't remember.
Title: Afterglow...sex?
Post by: NESSAussie on November 26, 2004, 05:27:35 am
Quote from: "NESSAussie"
All I know is I'm going to play 'Afterglow' when I vacate my current job  8)

(http://www.sonymusic.com.au/au/images/myhomepage/myphoto/cadenus.jpg)


(http://www3.hmv.co.uk/hmv/Large_Images/HMV/9864971.JPG) (http://www3.hmv.co.uk/hmv/Large_Images/HMV/9864971.JPG)

^ I hope my copies arrive soon; I'll need to play Afterglow before New Year's  :wink:
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Post by: Sharona PianoBea on November 26, 2004, 06:51:46 am
Of course it's about sex!  AND, she doesn't want to admit it.. for all you young people out there. An 'afterglow' is the feeling you get just after having sex. I learned that word when I was in junior high.  :razz:

She says "and I'm walking free, the wind at my back, bathed in afterglow". She just came home from a night out and she is walking home in the morning (the "orange sky"), and she is still feeling the effects of her night with a lover. And, she was there in the dark room seeing blood.. hmm, maybe just lost her virginity??

hahaha.... well, ok that is the literal meaning. The figurative meaning is a period of time where she is in a relationship. The time frame goes from winter (days getting colder) to spring or summer (days getting longer). Her afterglow in the figurative sense is the way "her lover" makes her feel all the time. Like she is in a constant state of afterglow (from having sex).

Sooo... it IS about sex, yet it isn't.
Title: Afterglow...sex?
Post by: Ms.Redd on November 26, 2004, 06:58:10 am
well described...

That very well could be how she's able to say its not about sex. ... Because its about the feeling after sex. I agree with the B.

:P
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Post by: Steveau on November 26, 2004, 03:37:55 pm
Quote from: "Ms.Redd"
well described...

That very well could be how she's able to say its not about sex. ... Because its about the feeling after sex. I agree with the B.

:P

you can also argue that the oh, ohh, ohhhh at the end is her moaning but I think I'll take Vanessa's word for it and believe it's not about sex.
I find it funny that people always want to put meaning into songs so they can better relate their lives to the songs. To me songs are songs and until an artist says what it's about nobody really knows but them.
Title: Afterglow...sex?
Post by: eclv on November 26, 2004, 03:56:56 pm
She is sure to say that it is not about sex. Even when I yeah righted her.

I think that she would own up to it if it was. Kinda like how she says she was censored on WH and that it's not only about sex, it just mostly about sex.

My friend seems to think it's about being able to move on after a relationship and being ok with it or the feeling you have in a relationship now, something along those lines. I forget what she said.
Title: Afterglow...sex?
Post by: amberbeads on November 28, 2004, 04:10:52 pm
Quote from: "Steveau"
you can also argue that the oh, ohh, ohhhh at the end is her moaning

Now THAT is a stretch. :?
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Post by: Vultch on November 28, 2004, 04:45:19 pm
Quote from: "eclv"
My friend seems to think it's about being able to move on after a relationship and being ok with it or the feeling you have in a relationship now, something along those lines. I forget what she said.

thats how I prefer to take the song. It's probably my favorite off the CD but when its just about sex, cheapens the song to me and I dont like that.

Often people ask Dido what a certain song means. She never tells them but instead asks what the song means to them. Even tho that kind of stance might frustrate the diehard fans, I like how it opens it up for each fan's inturpretation.
Title: Afterglow...sex?
Post by: eclv on November 28, 2004, 04:55:03 pm
yeah, I gave up a long time ago trying to figure out V's songs. I just know what they mean to me and if she feels like sharing well then that's cool, if not well that's cool too.
Title: Afterglow...sex?
Post by: NESSAussie on November 28, 2004, 08:20:34 pm
Quote from: "eclv"
My friend seems to think it's about being able to move on after a relationship and being ok with it or the feeling you have in a relationship now, something along those lines. I forget what she said.

Being able to move on [after a relationship] is 1 of the themes Vanessa has
referred to in recent interviews dicussing the content of Harmonium; and so
I intend to play Afterglow the night I leave my current Sommelier position :P

(http://www.sonymusic.com.au/au/images/myhomepage/myphoto/cadenus.jpg)
Title: Afterglow...sex?
Post by: Lord Star on December 16, 2004, 03:46:15 am
It's not about sex, it's about letting go of your anger/pain....... That's what I heard from the Vh1 live performance..

Maybe the "Maroon in the blood, of this life that's ours" Is the consequence of the quarrel, it's not literally blood.

"All I seem to feel is light" it means that she just lets go and let everything be in order, in a state of peace... not getting high or something