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Vanessa Carlton => General Vanessa Carlton Discussion => Topic started by: david on November 26, 2004, 04:46:44 am

Title: all I ask...
Post by: david on November 26, 2004, 04:46:44 am
what a song, with all the instruments arund her voice and the piano,..oh, it's so brilliant. Today it's the first time I listened to it, and I don't understand why is not in Harmonium, it's so great. :o  8O
Title: all I ask...
Post by: kev222 on November 26, 2004, 05:14:25 am
Quote from: "david"
I don't understand why is not in Harmonium

It's seriously old. The real question is why wasn't it on BnN :)

-Kev
Title: all I ask...
Post by: Afterglow on November 26, 2004, 10:25:46 am
All I ask is from a an Album that never was out... I think... The album was called RINSE
Title: all I ask...
Post by: morningsting on November 26, 2004, 10:10:42 pm
Yeah, it was an unreleased album that came out in 2000.

A

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v504/morningsting/harmonium.jpg)
Title: all I ask...
Post by: zurielshimon on November 29, 2004, 06:56:18 am
Quote from: "morningsting"
Yeah, it was an unreleased album that came out in 2000.

A


Am I the only one who sees the contradiction in terms here? :razz:
Title: all I ask...
Post by: kev222 on November 29, 2004, 07:15:19 am
"Rinse" wasn't really a seperate album, it was the working title for "Be Not Nobody".

What is now commonly known as "Rinse" is the collection of pre-BnN studio demos (most of which were on the "demo tape & assorted rarities CD" (http://forums.nessaholics.com/viewtopic.php?t=4123&highlight=obtain+copy) that me and Grakthis distributed a while back). "All I Ask" was one of those demos and didn't make it onto the final BnN.

-Kev

P.S. I'm not up on these things like I used to be. But if I'm wrong, then I'm sure one of the true old schoolers will set it straight.
Title: all I ask...
Post by: Vultch on November 29, 2004, 11:00:29 am
Vanessafanatic did a GREAT job of putting together a history of the whole thing

http://www.vanessafanatic.com/about/4/the-making-of-rinse

Everything you need to know is there!
Title: all I ask...
Post by: Afterglow on December 19, 2004, 08:38:08 pm
Quote from: "beevee"
Vanessafanatic did a GREAT job of putting together a history of the whole thing

http://www.vanessafanatic.com/about/4/the-making-of-rinse

Everything you need to know is there!


Yeah... Everything is there... Good job VANESSAFANATIC.... And the site is doing very well........ I'm translating to Portuguese the history because I'm too lazy to read it in English
Title: all I ask...
Post by: Plastic_Love1030 on December 28, 2004, 05:32:21 am
Dors anyone know how old Vanessa was when she recorded the demo tape? I've been listening to Carnival, Superhero, and All I Ask lately and she sounds really young, especially in All I Ask. If anyone could answer it would be appreciated. Thanks!
Title: all I ask...
Post by: Will on December 28, 2004, 07:09:10 am
Ha ha. Vulture pimped my site. :-D

I've got to update more often.
Title: all I ask...
Post by: LimeTwister on December 28, 2004, 07:14:07 am
Quote from: "zurielshimon"
Quote from: "morningsting"
Yeah, it was an unreleased album that came out in 2000.

A


Am I the only one who sees the contradiction in terms here? :razz:


I was thinking the same thing lol.
Title: all I ask...
Post by: Vultch on December 28, 2004, 10:28:15 am
Quote from: "Plastic_Love1030"
Dors anyone know how old Vanessa was when she recorded the demo tape? I've been listening to Carnival, Superhero, and All I Ask lately and she sounds really young, especially in All I Ask. If anyone could answer it would be appreciated. Thanks!

The songs you're refering to are from Rinse and she was 19-20 while that was made.

I dont know the time frame for the demo tape(s).
Title: all I ask...
Post by: Will on December 28, 2004, 10:49:18 am
The demo tape was probably made in or around 1998.
Title: all I ask...
Post by: Prophetic on December 30, 2004, 12:59:19 pm
All I Ask is truthfully a very pretty song, might be one of the nicest songs of all time, even though I could never choose. Such beautiful  lyrics and melody. She must have put a lot of heart into it.
Title: all I ask...
Post by: Afterglow on December 30, 2004, 01:16:49 pm
Quote from: "Prophetic"
All I Ask is truthfully a very pretty song, might be one of the nicest songs of all time, even though I could never choose. Such beautiful  lyrics and melody. She must have put a lot of heart into it.


It's funny in my case... I love ALL I ASK from RINSE ALBUM, But I don't like from TAPE DEMO... Only FACES, LITTLE MARRY and DEVIL DANCE are the best
Title: all I ask...
Post by: Plastic_Love1030 on January 01, 2005, 04:39:50 pm
I think some of her old songs are her better ones. I like Ordinary Day better with the Divide and Conquer part, and Carnival, Superhero, and All I Ask are beautiful. It's actually kind of funny because I like some of her b-sides better than more recent stuff (Swindler and Morning Sting). When she played those two songs at the TLA concert I went to, I was so happy  :D
Title: all I ask...
Post by: NESSAussie on June 21, 2005, 05:45:22 am
Listened to this today courtesy of the links for Rarities 01 put up by Brian(BWilli (http://forums.nessaholics.com/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&u=186))

Next to Superhero this is my favourite pre-BNN track :D I love the arrangement
of the strings! Anyone here know if V had help with that, and if so from who  :?
Title: all I ask...
Post by: zurielshimon on June 21, 2005, 08:24:07 am
Quote from: "NESSAussie"
Listened to this today courtesy of the links for Rarities 01 put up by Brian(BWilli (http://forums.nessaholics.com/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&u=186))

Next to Superhero this is my favourite pre-BNN track :D I love the arrangement
of the strings! Anyone here know if V had help with that, and if so from who  :?


Paul Buckmaster wrote the stings for "All I Ask".  The song was finished in L.A. in October of 2000. 8)

From her own journal:
(http://web.archive.org/web/20011023223309/http://vanessacarlton.com/images/1017.gif)
Title: all I ask...
Post by: VanessaPiana on June 21, 2005, 12:32:50 pm
well if you want her rarities, then all you have to do is go to the Vanessa Carlton Chat Forum on her Official Website. and you'll have to go to AOL Search to find the 'Rinse' Version of 'Pretty Baby'.
Title: all I ask...
Post by: NESSAussie on June 21, 2005, 06:00:56 pm
Quote from: "VanessaCarlton"
Paul Buckmaster wrote the most amazing string section to All I Ask

No surprise she was as impressed as the rest of us; deserved to be on BNN :?
Title: all I ask...
Post by: Pyro on June 21, 2005, 07:38:10 pm
I love All I Ask. It's one of my favorite songs of hers. I think the Rinse version is ten times better than the demo one. I don't think she'll ever release it officially though. What do you guys think?
Title: all I ask...
Post by: zurielshimon on June 21, 2005, 10:07:03 pm
Who owns the rights to the recording (not the lyrics/music, but the recording itself)?  Let's just all go in as a group and buy "All I Ask", performed by Vanessa Carlton and produced by Peter Zizzo, from whatever label owns it.  Then we can release it and use the money to pay ourselves back and make NESSAholics.com the awesomely wonderful place we want it to be. :cool:
Title: all I ask...
Post by: phu on June 22, 2005, 03:07:17 am
Quote from: "Pyro"
I love All I Ask. It's one of my favorite songs of hers. I think the Rinse version is ten times better than the demo one. I don't think she'll ever release it officially though. What do you guys think?


i preferably like the demo tape version
it's faster and more aggressive :)
the piano is amazing

the rinse version is also great, but it's so depressing  :cry:
Title: all I ask...
Post by: VanessaPiana on June 22, 2005, 01:20:40 pm
i hope that that song's on her next album. i didn't know who wrote the string section, though, until someone mentioned it. the song sounds a lot like 'The Promise', by Michael Nyman.
Title: all I ask...
Post by: Pyro on June 22, 2005, 01:21:08 pm
I think the vocals on the Rinse version are better though, and I like depressing songs! :D
Title: Vocals
Post by: liquidblue244 on June 22, 2005, 01:26:15 pm
I think one song that she has the best vocals in is probably Ordinary Day from Be not Nobody, and Where the Streets have No Name, she has great range in that song.... :) Not that this has anything to do with All I Ask.
Title: Re: Vocals
Post by: Pyro on June 22, 2005, 01:59:13 pm
Quote from: "liquidblue244"
I think one song that she has the best vocals in is probably Ordinary Day from Be not Nobody, and Where the Streets have No Name, she has great range in that song.... :) Not that this has anything to do with All I Ask.

lol. Yeah, she's really good in Ordinary Day. I really like her singing on "As I wake in bed". That part doesn't even sound like it's her singing, it sounds better. But I like her regular singing anyway. :lol:
Title: I agree
Post by: liquidblue244 on June 22, 2005, 02:03:46 pm
Yeah, I mean she sounds good all the time, but I just really like her in Ordinary Day, she just had so much range, hats off for V...It's one of my favorite songs, and I think it is just so poetic, the words and the way she sings it.
Title: all I ask...
Post by: VanessaPiana on June 22, 2005, 02:10:26 pm
i think her voice is the best in Prince, Rinse, and WTSHNN. but there was one part in the song, though that made me cringe. it was the part when she sang 'See, our love turns to rust', she tries to sound like Bono himself. but other than that, i think she has a wonderful tone to her voice, which sometimes sounds raspy.
Title: all I ask...
Post by: Pyro on June 22, 2005, 04:39:24 pm
I'm listening to her version of Wishin' and Hopin' right now, and I like her vocals on that a lot too.

Lol, it seems this thread has gotten really off course.
Title: Yes it has
Post by: liquidblue244 on June 23, 2005, 12:34:46 pm
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Lol, it seems this thread has gotten really off course.


It seems like it has, but thats okay, just as long as we are talking about Vanessa... 8)
Title: all I ask...
Post by: zurielshimon on June 23, 2005, 09:41:17 pm
"All I Ask" still pwns, tho. 8)
Title: all I ask...
Post by: Manny on September 16, 2005, 02:52:57 pm
yeah!.. All I ask is one of my favorites... I just wonder why It wasnt on BnB.. It is an awesome song!