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Vanessa Carlton => General Vanessa Carlton Discussion => Topic started by: clamicas on April 02, 2005, 11:13:37 am
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so, Mucha is an art nouveau artist, he was a famous designer, made a lot of grpahic art for packages and posters
So looking at his art I bumped into this:
(http://www.worcesterart.org/Images/Mucha/Photos/mucha_sarahb.jpg)
which is very very similar to this:
BNN original cover:
(http://www.elyrics4u.com/cover/be_not_nobody_vanessa_carlton.jpg)
as you can see it´s his drawing over her cover, the hair even the round necklaces from Mucha's drawing....
vc I´m disappointed lol :lol:
thank god she chaged A BIT the cover in the final edition :lol:
STILL.... :roll: copying ideas is not cool :twisted: :lol:
(http://images-eu.amazon.com/images/P/B0000646TK.03.LZZZZZZZ.jpg)
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when I saw the first pic i was like 8O cuz it did look so similar. but both of those side by side... wow.
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wow. the hair was like.. exact
good thing she changed it
Amanda
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I wonder if that original design might have just been like a draft and not intended for use as a final product.
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I think it was a great idea with the cover... we don't know how it was exactly so we shouldn't assume nessa as 'copier'
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I don't think she was copying the artist so much as using inspiration from a piece of his work. I can still see the similarities, though.
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I don't think she was copying the artist so much as using inspiration from a piece of his work. I can still see the similarities, though.
I love VC, but puting the same stars the same position, the same colors, the same curves....It would have certainly been flattering for the artist if he could see it.but imo I consider that imitation. And I always thought vc did her own drawings, so I though she had been more creative :roll: But there's even the font from harmonium/white houses that I saw a similar one on a mucha poster, but I havent found it on the web lol. I guess she´s really a fan!! ! which is great, cuz that shows how she has a good artistic knowledge. :wink:
Anywyay, I just posted cuz I thought it was funny :lol: since I bumped into that Mucha piece by accident :lol: :lol: just sharing my silly discoveries :P
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Is Mucha still alive? Cause I'm sure she could've gotten his permission to use the design if he is... :roll:
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^he´s dead :P
anyway....curiosities about the poster :
that one in particular is from a french actress that died in 1923
(http://www.library.vanderbilt.edu/central/sigaux/exhibit/programsm.gif)
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wow...official site...
sb should ask nessa about inspirations...
omg...maybe when he died he got into her soul and she even doesn't know about these drawings and he draws it thorugh her body... 8O :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :wink:
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(http://www.library.vanderbilt.edu/central/sigaux/exhibit/programsm.gif)
Woah, that's the inside cover of Harmonium.
Not exact, but pretty damn close. *goes to get it out*
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Woah, that's the inside cover of Harmonium.
Not exact, but pretty damn close. *goes to get it out*
Yeah, I'm looking at my harmonium inside cover now... its hanging on my wall... and it really looks so similar!
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Two comments...
First, when exactly did this man die? His work may now be public domain, in which case copying his style on a CD cover would be similar to posing as the Mona Lisa or some other such thing...
Second, do we know exactly that that first BNN cover is indeed an earlier version? It looks to me like someone just slapped part of the Mucha figure's hair onto the CD cover in PhotoShop...in which case this is either someone's experiment or just a very early prototype that the art team was doing...
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Imitation is the most sincere form of flattery. Give V the benefit of the doubt, she's probably just a big fan and wanted to pay him a tribute or something.
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Thanx for the post! I might have never known, but now I've sat up well into the wee hours learning so much about Alfons Mucha and Sarah Bernhardt. The Sarah Bernhardt art is mostly a hundred years old and older and Mucha died in 1939.
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wow this is a great find...we should ask V about this sometime.
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Second, do we know exactly that that first BNN cover is indeed an earlier version? It looks to me like someone just slapped part of the Mucha figure's hair onto the CD cover in PhotoShop...in which case this is either someone's experiment or just a very early prototype that the art team was doing...
Yes it is. I was on the boards when the first cover was the proposed cover for the album- it was on amazon, cdnow, everything. It wasn't a prototype- it was the actual CD cover. It seems to me they may've changed it because it was so similar.
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it hasnt been fully changed or erased.
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Grab your BNN!
look on the back side,and inside the booklet on the page with the pic of nessa and the orchestra. she kept Mucha´s drawing of sarah´s hair. so it hasnt been fully changed or erased.
and on the first & second pages in :D
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yeah, I forgot to look in there as well :P
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so,Mucha had a contract with that famous actress sarah bernarht and for six years he was the one who did all the posters for her plays :razz:
(http://images.amazon.com/images/P/0486250806.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg)
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....I thought of those more like Swirlies, not Mucha-Hair things. lol...Hey does anyone have a link of where to buy this painting? I LOVE art and I want to buy this.
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Muchas paintings are great. Vanessa Carlton must have been inspired. She is not a copier. LOL!