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Vanessa Carlton => General Vanessa Carlton Discussion => Topic started by: LimeTwister on March 30, 2003, 11:43:08 am

Title: I believe her record company is the anti-nessa...
Post by: LimeTwister on March 30, 2003, 11:43:08 am
I was looking in the store, and john mayer has all kinds of CD's.  Michelle Branch has a new look (well its not new anymore, but it is still diferent from the very first Spirit Room).  Yet I can't find Nessa CD's except BNN.  I can't find her singles (yet there is an ATM advertisement at one store, but they don't have the single).

Someone should let them know WE WANT MORE NESSA!
Title: I believe her record company is the anti-nessa...
Post by: LimeTwister on March 30, 2003, 11:43:42 am
forgot to mention, Norah has her own DVD.
Title: I believe her record company is the anti-nessa...
Post by: tricia on March 30, 2003, 12:31:47 pm
Michelle's is just the back cover put on the front
Title: I believe her record company is the anti-nessa...
Post by: LostDwarf on March 30, 2003, 01:05:57 pm
you can't find it because it's SOLD OUT, if you goto the Virgin Mega-Store in times square in NYC you'll notice all her singles are SOLD OUT. Which is a good thing in a way =)

Mike
Title: I believe her record company is the anti-nessa...
Post by: Vultch on March 30, 2003, 01:06:33 pm
Quote from: "DixieChck615"
Michelle's is just the back cover put on the front


So its the same pic on the front and back now?? that's odd.
Title: I believe her record company is the anti-nessa...
Post by: neos on March 30, 2003, 01:42:49 pm
I have to agree a bit on that about her record company... they've done nothing to promote her here at all. So sad. You can't even find ATM singles, cos they haven't been released, and they've done nothing to give BnN some radio airplay. Nothing at all.  :cry:
Title: I believe her record company is the anti-nessa...
Post by: High On Lullabies on March 30, 2003, 02:30:12 pm
Sold out is good in some ways, cos people have bought all the available copies, but it's bad in others cos if they stay sold out it obviously means the record company don't feel they should press any more copies of them as they don't think they will sell, which is bad.
Title: I believe her record company is the anti-nessa...
Post by: LostDwarf on March 30, 2003, 02:33:31 pm
Quote from: "neos"
You can't even find ATM singles, cos they haven't been released


There are 5 different versions of the ATM single to my knowledge, there was 1 US release which is pretty much sold out everywhere you look, ATM is also over a year and a half old so your not going to find the single as easily as you use to be able to. When I worked at Borders books and music, I worked in the music department, I remember I ordered 80 copies of the single for the store and within a week they were sold out, I even posted about it on the other board. Right now "Pretty Baby" single is floating around here and there, if you can find one, I checked Virgin and they were sold out currently.  

Mike
Title: I believe her record company is the anti-nessa...
Post by: neos on March 30, 2003, 02:37:28 pm
I mean released in Spain. I checked back at the time and ATM was nowhere to be found. Doesn't surprise me cos people don't tend to buy singles here, so many of them are not even released, but some CD shops do have singles and I looked everywhere for it. Just not available. I know they have been released in other places, I got mine when I went to the UK in July, but in Spain, promo and distribution has been almost non-existant, and who's to blame but her record company?
Title: I believe her record company is the anti-nessa...
Post by: LimeTwister on March 30, 2003, 05:35:23 pm
Quote from: "LostDwarf"
ATM is also over a year and a half old so your not going to find the single as easily as you use to be able to.


well I couldn't find it last year either.

I mean why can't they make more singles?  I don't live any where close to NYC, so I couldn't go look for it there...I also can't find the Pretty Baby single, I mean she is good (well duh, I wouldn't be here if she wasn't) but her being sold out here is kinda unbelievable for the simple fact, any time I mention her name I get comments like:

"She plays piano? I thought she played guitar"

"Oh you mean that girl the with the guitar"

"Oh that piano chick that looks like Michelle Branch"

"She sounds like a dying cat"

"She is cute what does she sing?"

"Oh that song is awfu" *then person does bad impression of PB or ATM*

"Well she is really good at the piano, other than that, yuck"

And yes, I have heard more, but I won't post that.
Title: I agree,
Post by: keith on March 30, 2003, 05:38:30 pm
Vanessa doesn't get that much attention or promotion.
But, we still luv her.
Title: I believe her record company is the anti-nessa...
Post by: niki807 on March 30, 2003, 05:39:37 pm
I just  bought the ATM single today. It was the first time I ever saw  it. It was the only one
Title: I believe her record company is the anti-nessa...
Post by: David Hart on March 30, 2003, 07:37:35 pm
weird...if it's true, that's whacko Jacko
DAVID
Title: I believe her record company is the anti-nessa...
Post by: TSE on March 30, 2003, 07:38:24 pm
Quote from: "David Hart"
weird...if it's true, that's whacko Jacko
DAVID


wacko Jacko?

 :lol:
Title: lol
Post by: keith on March 30, 2003, 08:11:17 pm
Jacko is a whacko!
Title: I believe her record company is the anti-nessa...
Post by: NESSC on April 01, 2003, 06:28:43 am
umm .. i really think she deserves better promoter .. specially here in Europe !!!
Title: I believe her record company is the anti-nessa...
Post by: neos on April 01, 2003, 11:53:22 am
Agree to that!

How on earth did you find out about her in Portugal??  8O
Title: I believe her record company is the anti-nessa...
Post by: NESSC on April 01, 2003, 03:25:35 pm
i was going to answear , but then i saw that you live in SPAIN ???? what you mean in PORTUGAL :?:  :?:  :?:  i saw Vanessa's ATM on VH1... but Vanessa totally blow me away when i saw " Ordinary day's video  - it's so different , reminds me a simple Shumann or Faure song...
Title: I believe her record company is the anti-nessa...
Post by: NESSC on April 01, 2003, 03:29:23 pm
sorry if i sounded kinda rude ... but i'll get mad if someones attack my countrie .. i think i missunderstood your message ... um  ...sorry :roll:  :roll: here in Portugal it's really hard to find even BNN and i'm not talking about singles , i'm talking about her album ....
Title: I believe her record company is the anti-nessa...
Post by: LimeTwister on April 01, 2003, 05:13:29 pm
Nerea wasn't being offensive, she means, "they actually play NESSA there?" because I think they give almost little air play in Spain.
Title: I believe her record company is the anti-nessa...
Post by: LostDwarf on April 01, 2003, 07:24:39 pm
There are plenty of cd's it all depends on the demand of the song, a year ago it was in hot demand and a lot of stores had it but once again a lot of places were sold out of it. I've found the best place to get singles is EBAY, you save time and money, and it's easy!

Mike
Title: I believe her record company is the anti-nessa...
Post by: NESSC on April 01, 2003, 07:24:39 pm
yes , i missundertood the message .. Sorry again !!! :oops:  :roll:  ...
Title: I believe her record company is the anti-nessa...
Post by: B on April 02, 2003, 02:25:08 pm
Interscope in general is too busy promoting 50 Cent LOL ... but it is sad she doesn't get more promotion.

-Brian
Title: I believe her record company is the anti-nessa...
Post by: Jophess on April 02, 2003, 02:34:33 pm
And Eminem and... John Oszajka (?)
Title: I believe her record company is the anti-nessa...
Post by: Vultch on April 02, 2003, 02:44:07 pm
Quote from: "Nagyovafan"
And Eminem and... John Oszajka (?)


hahahaha yeh, John's monster fanbase. Karmen and about 4 other Nessaholics.
Title: I believe her record company is the anti-nessa...
Post by: TSE on April 02, 2003, 02:44:47 pm
Quote from: "Nagyovafan"
And Eminem and... John Oszajka (?)


it's "Oszajca"--yea they're to busy with him. . .


NO FAIR KEV!  I GOT IT FIRST!
Title: I believe her record company is the anti-nessa...
Post by: LostDwarf on April 02, 2003, 06:15:19 pm
2 words

Steve Berman

*note*

go read nessa's thank you's at the end of her booklet.
Title: Anti-Nessa is correct
Post by: nosticker on April 06, 2003, 01:57:14 am
Record companies pay people to make sure that their artists' records are in stock, particularly along the tour itinerary(I used to know someone who did it).  Sounds like A&M/Universal isn't doing their job.  John Mellencamp actually left Mercury/PolyGram over that issue, among others.  Sadly, A&M may feel that BNN is done with.  Even if that's the case., it's a shame not to keep her name out there, especially if she will release a new CD this year.
We all know, though, that logic has no place anywhere in the entertainment business.


Dan/NS
Title: we are prehistoric chums
Post by: vive-la-france on April 06, 2003, 02:13:14 am
In France i only discovered Nessa when A thousand miles went on air on every french radios
but now they are still rarely playing a thousnad miles
It's like if it was her only song !!
Perhaps Nessa's promoters can't swim that's why they don't cross the atlantic ocean  :lol:
For example : New Found Glory , and Goo goo dolls don't exist for french people except the one who have an internet connection
Title: I believe her record company is the anti-nessa...
Post by: PintOGuinness on April 06, 2003, 07:22:43 am
This doesn't just apply to Vanessa but, I think STREET TEAMS are destroying artists promotions.  I know it sounds like such a great thing to everybody and fans love it.  But what I think it really accomplishes is lax and lazy promotion of artists.

Once a record company establishes a street team they pass off alot of teh tasks that use to fall to interns and low level employess of the company... and then never give those most basic promotions which in many cases are the most important, a second thought.  Than if the artists fails, they can blame the bad promotion on the fans and wash their hands of it.  I think Vanessa is a huge case for this.  

Her promotion is horrible... and truly i think if it was not for us.. and even by US i mean a SMALL minority of those of us around here... she would be much worse off than she is...  

No i'm not so pretentious to think that only the NESSAholics are responsibe for keeping Vanessa goingm but tell me, Avril is on the cover of every teen magazine out there... same with most young artists these days...  Michelle just did a layout showing off this year's latest prom dresses...  i know those sound trivial, but Vanessa is getting Best/Worst Dressed colums in Us Weekly.  That's it and that's not even of her own doing...  She is old enough to be getting herself into some real publicity.. the Dateline thing was amazing.. her publicists need to be hitting the womens mags... go for the adults... Cosmo, et al...

It is frustrating to see... I hope someone gets a huge cick in the ass for VC2.. she deserves it...  and everyone needs to know...
Title: I believe her record company is the anti-nessa...
Post by: LostDwarf on April 06, 2003, 03:17:03 pm
Well said Jason  :wink: