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Vanessa Carlton => General Vanessa Carlton Discussion => Topic started by: WhiteHouses108 on July 29, 2006, 08:38:29 pm
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which song do you think will be playing all over the radio, and be amazingly successful?
im hoping all of them, but i think this time will be the first big one.
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I'd say Best Behavior, The One or Put Your Hands on Me. I think they're all very radio-friendly. But of course I haven't heard the end products.
PYHOM's title would attract interest, hehe.
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PYHOM's title would attract interest, hehe.
haha I couldn't agree more! :D
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I think that or PYHOM or This time.
In my opinion, The one is not very commercial, as well as All is well.
This time could be a hit.
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This time
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This time
of course! This Time! but I have a feeling for All is well
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ALL of them. Private Radio should have been a hit, but let's not dwell on the past.
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THE ONE
...and you can qutoe me
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I think This Time, Best Behaivor or Put Your Hands On Me. I can see those being radio hits.
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I can see PYHOM rarley being played on mtv :P
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i really hope this time isn't a single.
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Best Behavior, Put Your Hands On Me possibly This Time, The One, or even All is Well... I'm sure that she has some REALLY good songs that we haven't heard yet and some of those could be singles... I just hope that she has 4 or 5 with this album cause I want to see V in some new vids... no matter what though I know it will be great... hopefully we'll be hearing V's music on the radio soon ;)
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until i hear the studio versions, i don't really wanna give an opinion on it.
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Well based on the recordings of the songs we have id say:
1. Best Behavior
2. PYHOM
3. This Time
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I'd have to go with PYHOM, not only is it catchy, but it has a very sexy title, and America likes that.
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it is kinda difficult to point out exactly which one will do well...i mean...being a nessaholic i think all her songs are amazin...
but lookin at it from the general public'c point of view,...i think she should release either the one or this time...
definitle one of em will do amazingly well...
though as someone said earlier...Pyhom (or should we start calling it Hom)
would attract attention...
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i really hope this time isn't a single.
AGREED. that song somewhat irritates me.
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i really hope this time isn't a single.
AGREED. that song somewhat irritates me.
hmmm really? i mean when i first heard "This Time" on promosquad, i shed a tiny little tear on the corner of my eye... it just touched me in a way... or maybe i had allergies... :?:
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must be.. lol.
it's an okay song.. or, it was live. i really didn't like the promo squad version we heard. i don't like the way linda perry is producing. i'm biased towards stephan, but knowing that doesn't change the fact that i haven't liked 2 of the 3 songs i've heard that linda has, and i'm not into the third. and for a while i had trouble distinguishing this time from the one. This Time is The One, but not as good...
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must be.. lol.
it's an okay song.. or, it was live. i really didn't like the promo squad version we heard. i don't like the way linda perry is producing. i'm biased towards stephan, but knowing that doesn't change the fact that i haven't liked 2 of the 3 songs i've heard that linda has, and i'm not into the third. and for a while i had trouble distinguishing this time from the one. This Time is The One, but not as good...
yeah i agree. this time and the one sound pretty much the same because of that same beat over and over again. what were the 2 songs that you heard that linda perry produced?
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they're called Spring Street and Wave Goodbye. you can read about it here:
http://forum.nessaholics.com/viewtopic.php?t=9145
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i'm biased towards stephan, but knowing that doesn't change the fact that i haven't liked 2 of the 3 songs i've heard that linda has, and i'm not into the third. and for a while i had trouble distinguishing this time from the one. This Time is The One, but not as good...
i thought stephan's production work on harmonium was perfection. absolute genius. lol and yeah i got a bit confused between The One, and This Time aswell. originally i didn't like The One, now it's the other way around...
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bluebutterfly wrote:
ordinaryday6 wrote:
i really hope this time isn't a single.
AGREED. that song somewhat irritates me.
It's not like it's BAD, it's just not GREAT. I find it kinda boring...
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I dislike Perry's production on This Time, and based on what I've heard from other people, I'm not going to like any of the songs she produced for the next album. I really wish Vanessa didn't decide to go with her. She makes Vanessa's songs sound so...ordinary.
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She makes Vanessa's songs sound so...ordinary.
EXACTLY. vanessa's music might be poppy, but they're intelligent pop songs. linda perry makes these songs boring and predictable. i'm afraid that they're going to use a perry song as a single, because of her name, and because of the vanessa/stephan team doesn't really have a good track record on radio and with sales, even though they clearly write better songs. god i hope a perry song doesn't become a single. i'd be so pissed off.
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She makes Vanessa's songs sound so...ordinary.
EXACTLY. vanessa's music might be poppy, but they're intelligent pop songs. linda perry makes these songs boring and predictable. i'm afraid that they're going to use a perry song as a single, because of her name, and because of the vanessa/stephan team doesn't really have a good track record on radio and with sales, even though they clearly write better songs. god i hope a perry song doesn't become a single. i'd be so pissed off.
I agree, but I'm pretty sure they will use a Perry song as a single. Stephan is able to be a catalyst to Vanessa's feelings and art; whereas, Perry zooms in so far on the catchy melodies that the impact of the actual music and lyrics is all but lost. But, when you look at what type of music does the best in sales and on the charts, it is this more shallow stuff that Perry is so good at creating that has the most success. Therefore, if Vanessa really wants to sell a bunch more albums this time around like she says, she's going to end up going with a Perry song because those are the songs that will likely get the best response from the average pop fan. :(
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Well let's pray for Put Your Hands on Me.
Perry is too mainstreem when she produces. Stephan doesnt go with the flow. He has his own way and it rocks.
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I'd rather to hear "This time" as a single than "put your hands on me" I dont like too much that song
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The first single is probably going to be a song we haven't heard yet.
I don't think V wants to release a new album with a song her fans already know. I'm pretty sure she wants to surprise us with something new! ;)
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...which could still be a Linda Perry-tainted track.
ordinaryday6 wrote:
abbottANDcostello wrote:
She makes Vanessa's songs sound so...ordinary.
EXACTLY. vanessa's music might be poppy, but they're intelligent pop songs. linda perry makes these songs boring and predictable. i'm afraid that they're going to use a perry song as a single, because of her name, and because of the vanessa/stephan team doesn't really have a good track record on radio and with sales, even though they clearly write better songs. god i hope a perry song doesn't become a single. i'd be so pissed off.
abbottANDcostello wrote:
I agree, but I'm pretty sure they will use a Perry song as a single. Stephan is able to be a catalyst to Vanessa's feelings and art; whereas, Perry zooms in so far on the catchy melodies that the impact of the actual music and lyrics is all but lost. But, when you look at what type of music does the best in sales and on the charts, it is this more shallow stuff that Perry is so good at creating that has the most success. Therefore, if Vanessa really wants to sell a bunch more albums this time around like she says, she's going to end up going with a Perry song because those are the songs that will likely get the best response from the average pop fan.
Isn't that sad? I hope that she doesn't lose her credibility, at least in our eyes. Well, at least to those of us who like her for her non-ATM tracks. I don't really care what people think of my musical tastes, as long as I enjoy it, but I still don't want people to be like, "What? You like Vanessa Carlton? I thought you didn't like that kind of music"... does anyone get what I mean? That forgettable mainstream pop stuff, that's "cool" for a couple of weeks and then forgotten?
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i really hope i'm not disappointed with this album.
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i really hope i'm not disappointed with this album.
I'm preparing myself for it...
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i really hope i'm not disappointed with this album.
I'm preparing myself for it...
Unfortunately, I too am preparing myself to be underwhelmed. Harmonium is my favorite album ever, so I would never expect it to be that good (to me), but I'm a bit paranoid due to what I'm hearing from Vanessa in her posts and what I heard from Sammy and Natalie when they heard some of the tracks. I'm afraid this is going to be a considerable step back from BNN even.
The optimist in me is saying that the Linda Perry songs will be disappointing, but merely radio fodder for the teeny-boppers, and the rest of the album will be as spectuacular as I come to expect from Vanessa.
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Isn't that sad? I hope that she doesn't lose her credibility, at least in our eyes. Well, at least to those of us who like her for her non-ATM tracks. I don't really care what people think of my musical tastes, as long as I enjoy it, but I still don't want people to be like, "What? You like Vanessa Carlton? I thought you didn't like that kind of music"... does anyone get what I mean? That forgettable mainstream pop stuff, that's "cool" for a couple of weeks and then forgotten?
If her whole third album sounds like those clips of Perry's This Time, then her credibility will take a huge hit in my book, because, as much as I hate to say it, she'd be selling out. If there are only a few tracks like that, I'd be okay, because in that case she'd just be compramising. And, in the music industry today, an artist pretty much has to do that to stay afloat.
I know what you're saying about people's comments, but I get that when I say I like Vanessa right now anyway. I only like a few artists/groups that would ever be on MTV or popular radio, so when I say I like Vanessa to someone they have a bit of a fit and call me a hypocrite. But, then I get to defend Vanessa and explain how different she is and let them listen to some of her less popular tracks, and that almost always changes their mind about how to brand Vanessa in the future...and I like to do that. :D
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Isn't that sad? I hope that she doesn't lose her credibility, at least in our eyes. Well, at least to those of us who like her for her non-ATM tracks. I don't really care what people think of my musical tastes, as long as I enjoy it, but I still don't want people to be like, "What? You like Vanessa Carlton? I thought you didn't like that kind of music"... does anyone get what I mean? That forgettable mainstream pop stuff, that's "cool" for a couple of weeks and then forgotten?
If her whole third album sounds like those clips of Perry's This Time, then her credibility will take a huge hit in my book, because, as much as I hate to say it, she'd be selling out. If there are only a few tracks like that, I'd be okay, because in that case she'd just be compramising. And, in the music industry today, an artist pretty much has to do that to stay afloat.
I know what you're saying about people's comments, but I get that when I say I like Vanessa right now anyway. I only like a few artists/groups that would ever be on MTV or popular radio, so when I say I like Vanessa to someone they have a bit of a fit and call me a hypocrite. But, then I get to defend Vanessa and explain how different she is and let them listen to some of her less popular tracks, and that almost always changes their mind about how to brand Vanessa in the future...and I like to do that. :D
yes! i think that vanessa is only doing this to get back into becaoming well-known like in the ATM days. I'm pretty sure that her first single is going to be a Perry song. She would attract more people to her music and then, hopefully, she'll release a 2nd single that is Vanessa-ish. All we can do is hope for the best i guess.
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None of us can really know Vanessa's intentions. I personally disagree with all of you who think she's "selling out." From what I've heard so far her songs still sound like her songs...and I'm more convinced than ever that V could never let me down.
There's no way in hell I'd be disappointed by her album.
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There's no way in hell I'd be disappointed by her album.
Finally someone with a sense of reason ;)
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None of us can really know Vanessa's intentions. I personally disagree with all of you who think she's "selling out." From what I've heard so far her songs still sound like her songs...and I'm more convinced than ever that V could never let me down.
There's no way in hell I'd be disappointed by her album.
i agree with you
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i really hope i'm not disappointed with this album.
I'm preparing myself for it...
Unfortunately, I too am preparing myself to be underwhelmed. Harmonium is my favorite album ever, so I would never expect it to be that good (to me),
agreed 100% with u all there.
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If all Vanessa's songs were like ATM, Pretty Baby, etc., then I would NOT be a fan. So if that's what this album is like, I will be very, very disappointed. If I were a "pop" fan, then chances are I'd like whatever Linda Perry-type stuff they come up with. But that's completely NOT my taste, and I'm sure that others will agree with me.
I really like Best Behaviour, All is Well, and The One (Not really This Time though, it's really...average), but I'm getting the feeling that even after the album is released, I'll still be listening to the live bootlegs instead!
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I'm making my debut post here. You guys may know me from the official Vanessa Carlton board. I disappeared and came back several times. I've been listening to these new tracks and I have to say i'm overwhelmed. I love them, all of them and not a single bad comment. This third album will be better than Be Not Nobody and definitely better than Harmonium. For me, Harmonium wasn't neccessarily different, but it lacked a stronger melody that was present in Be Not Nobody. I'm talking about the way Nessa used her lyrics to sing.
Nevertheless, I didn't mind Harmonium. It certainly lacked something but I wasn't disappointed. It was a fairly good attempt. She said that all the songs she debuted would appear on the album. I've heard about 5 of them (Best Behaviour, Put your Arms on Me, The One, This Time, All is Well) and that's already half the tracks on the album, assuming Nessa releases about 10-11 songs on her new album, which is more than likely.
*Whoa...long sentance...break*
The third album will be amazing. It will sell more. To those complaining that it's taken a long time, I disagree. It's been very short since her sophmore effort and the new songs.
EDIT: I realised, I already made 8 posts. I'm not aware of them at all. As to answer the question of the thread. They all have an equal chance to debut as a single. I, personally want The One to debut. Beautiful track. Absolutely beautiful.
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BNN > Harmonium? are you shitting me? no way.
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BNN > Harmonium? are you shitting me? no way.
No. I'm sorry. I'm not shitting you. It's an objective opinion though. What I think you may not agree with.
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BNN > Harmonium? are you shitting me? no way.
No. I'm sorry. I'm not shitting you. It's an objective opinion though. What I think you may not agree with.
Objective means that your comment is completely devoid of any kind of personal bias and you are using only facts on which to base your assertion. This is why they say newspaper writers have to be objective -they have to report just facts and NOT let their own opinion get involved.
The words "objective" and "opinion" are a paradox. I think what you're trying to say is that your words are "subjective." Sorry, I don't mean to sound snotty or anything, but people getting those words mixed up is one of my pet peeves. :wink:
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BNN > Harmonium? are you shitting me? no way.
No. I'm sorry. I'm not shitting you. It's an objective opinion though. What I think you may not agree with.
Objective means that your comment is completely devoid of any kind of personal bias and you are using only facts on which to base your assertion. This is why they say newspaper writers have to be objective -they have to report just facts and NOT let their own opinion get involved.
The words "objective" and "opinion" are a paradox. I think what you're trying to say is that your words are "subjective." Sorry, I don't mean to sound snotty or anything, but people getting those words mixed up is one of my pet peeves. :wink:
That is what I meant. I apologise for my word mixup. In Law I always get those two completely mixed up.
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Some people here seem to be backing up everyting Vanessa does as if she is a diety or infalliable or something. Vanessa is one of my two favorite artists, but if she does someting completely different, I'm not going to completely change my opinion of music in general just so I can go on blindly supporting her. It's too early to say she's "sold out" because we haven't heard the album and we have no clue what's going to be on it.
But, if the songs all have that relentlessly shallow, phony and boring sound that masks her creative ability like the clips we've heard of This Time, then, at the very least, she will have evolved (or devolved) into just another radio whore and I'll ignore her album just like I would a Lindsay Lohan album. I'll still love the way her songs sound as bootlegs and I'll never stop listening to BNN and Harmonium, but I'm not going to buy or support the third album just because it's Vanessa.
Remember, I'm not saying that her third album is going to suck or that she's sold out, I'm just saying that based on Perry's production of This Time, there is definately a seed for this stuff to happen. Whether she decides to water this seed is yet to be seen. And, even if going in this direction isn't exactly selling out (although I would argue it is an unconcious sell out at the very least), it is still a deviation from the Vanessa that I love. If this is the way she decides to grow, then that's fine, but I'm not going to support it just because she made music I like in the past.
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I will definately buy the new cd no matter what. At least to see what it is like. I REALLY don't understand what everyone is SO worried about though. Vanessa is NOT selling out with this album. Even if she chooses to take a more commercial route this time around it's not like she's going to start f@#$ing some guy on a beach in one of her vids. I doubt that she would completely change her musical style now. Musical experimentation is totally acceptable and even vital to her growth as an artist. Also Vanessa needs to have moderate success with this album if she is going really root herself in the music industry. I hope Vanessa has huge success so that she will be able to put out future amazing albums.
As long as she keeps putting out new albums, I'll be buying them :)
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I don't think she's ever strayed from her sound at all. What do you people like about "Be Not Nobody" if you claim to hate pop music so much?
What do you like about "Private Radio" & "San Fransisco"? I'm just confused! So many people here are anti-pop, but Vanessa's music IS pop. It is damn good pop music and that is NOT an oxymoron.
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I don't think she's ever strayed from her sound at all. What do you people like about "Be Not Nobody" if you claim to hate pop music so much?
What do you like about "Private Radio" & "San Fransisco"? I'm just confused! So many people here are anti-pop, but Vanessa's music IS pop. It is damn good pop music and that is NOT an oxymoron.
I don't know whether I am one of the people you're addressing, but I'll assume I am and say that I agree with your comments about Vanessa being pop and that "pop" shouldn't be a dirty word or immediately recall images of just Britany and Hilary and whatnot. I agree that there's a difference between good and bad pop. I'm not upset at This Time because it is pop (I agree that Vanessa is and always has been pop for the most part), I am upset with the sound of that track because it is a blatantly commercialized version of a Vanessa Carlton song.
The dirty word for me is not pop, it is commercialization. The production on that song emphasizes bells and whistles instead of the heart. If you feel that Perry's version of This Time does not sound very disimilar to Stephan's versions of Private Radio and San Francisco, then we just completely disagree on that and that is why we seem to be on such a different page. The reason Harmonium sounds so good is because Stephan emphasized the soul in Vanessa's music in the studio. All Perry seems to be doing is bringing out the $$$ potential of the melody by using every boring little studio trick that every top 40 song uses in order to please the tremendously gullable and homoganized taste of mainstream America.
And, like I said before, if that ends up being the type of sound that Vanessa wants, then that's fine. I'll cherish her older stuff and leave her new stuff to the people that like that kind of thing...
...all the while praying that Amanda Palmer doesn't eventually follow the same career path. :wink:
And, again, all this is just speculation on a long shot. Other than a couple of songs produced by Perry that will probably make their way onto the album, I hope and still expect number three to sound great -just not as consistant as Harmonium.
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PianoGirl4444 wrote:
I don't think she's ever strayed from her sound at all. What do you people like about "Be Not Nobody" if you claim to hate pop music so much?
What do you like about "Private Radio" & "San Fransisco"? I'm just confused! So many people here are anti-pop, but Vanessa's music IS pop. It is damn good pop music and that is NOT an oxymoron.
abbottANDcostello wrote:
I don't know whether I am one of the people you're addressing, but I'll assume I am and say that I agree with your comments about Vanessa being pop and that "pop" shouldn't be a dirty word or immediately recall images of just Britany and Hilary and whatnot. I agree that there's a difference between good and bad pop. I'm not upset at This Time because it is pop (I agree that Vanessa is and always has been pop for the most part), I am upset with the sound of that track because it is a blatantly commercialized version of a Vanessa Carlton song.
Ok, I'll assume you're referring to me as well, ("you people" :? ) and I must say I agree with abbottANDcostello. The songs you mention are not the reason I like Vanessa Carlton. I was never a fan of A Thousand Miles either. I kind of liked it, but a friend lent me her copy of BNN and I started to like other songs like Wanted, Twilight, Prince, and especially Paint it Black (and yes, I know she didn't write it....), so I bought my own copy. I never listen to Pretty Baby or the more "pop" songs.
If Vanessa's music was all "pop", then I wouldn't be a fan. Vanessa's music is not all "pop", she is a mulitfaceted, genre-blending ARTIST with many different moods and styles within her music (and yes, that includes pop.) If Linda Perry or whoever else is working with her now takes her music and makes it ALL "pop", then it won't be the Vanessa I have come to love, and so of course I and many, many others will feel very disappointed. It will seem to me like she will have lost a large part of her unique artistry, which is what makes Vanessa Carlton, Vanessa Carlton.
As for "selling out", I don't know if I would use that term, but for "us people", Vanessa stands for something that we believe in, and it would be disappointing for us to see her stray from that, dammit. I know she is her own person, and can choose to change if that is her wish, but I hope you can understand what I am saying.
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Some people here seem to be backing up everyting Vanessa does as if she is a diety or infalliable or something. Vanessa is one of my two favorite artists, but if she does someting completely different, I'm not going to completely change my opinion of music in general just so I can go on blindly supporting her. It's too early to say she's "sold out" because we haven't heard the album and we have no clue what's going to be on it.
But, if the songs all have that relentlessly shallow, phony and boring sound that masks her creative ability like the clips we've heard of This Time, then, at the very least, she will have evolved (or devolved) into just another radio whore and I'll ignore her album just like I would a Lindsay Lohan album. I'll still love the way her songs sound as bootlegs and I'll never stop listening to BNN and Harmonium, but I'm not going to buy or support the third album just because it's Vanessa.
Remember, I'm not saying that her third album is going to suck or that she's sold out, I'm just saying that based on Perry's production of This Time, there is definately a seed for this stuff to happen. Whether she decides to water this seed is yet to be seen. And, even if going in this direction isn't exactly selling out (although I would argue it is an unconcious sell out at the very least), it is still a deviation from the Vanessa that I love. If this is the way she decides to grow, then that's fine, but I'm not going to support it just because she made music I like in the past.
exactly my thoughts.
i don't think this album is going to be bad. i'm just concerned with them trying to make a radio hit, and putting a couple formulaic pop hits on the album, and ruining flow, etc, that stephan and vanessa create so well.
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we haven't even heard the album yet so we should stop trippin' and just wait.
we've only heard a few live songs and some studio snippets (and "this time" thing which wasn't the final product).
there isn't enough for us to debate whether or not her music is "all pop" and what not.
once we get the album, then maybe we can start to talk about it like we are now. but there simply isn't enough to go on to say that she's "selling out" or whatever else anyone says.
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we haven't even heard the album yet so we should stop trippin' and just wait.
we've only heard a few live songs and some studio snippets (and "this time" thing which wasn't the final product).
there isn't enough for us to debate whether or not her music is "all pop" and what not.
once we get the album, then maybe we can start to talk about it like we are now. but there simply isn't enough to go on to say that she's "selling out" or whatever else anyone says.
No one is saying the music is "all pop," we're saying that This Time sounds commercialized (or at least I am). And we aren't saying she's sold out, we're just speculating based on what we've heard from her recently that there is a chance.
As far as suggesting that we "stop tripping," I think you're getting it wrong. We aren't tripping, we're just using our imaginations to speculate based on what we have heard. We aren't making any definitive judgments before we hear a final product, I don't think any of us here are that shallow. We just like to throw our opinions around and argue with others who maybe disagree...it's fun. Kind of like how they have all those pregame shows for sports and awards shows and stuff. It would be kind of boring if we just sat around here doing nothing until the next album came out. :)
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yeah.. what else is there to talk about?
why can't stephan just produce the whole album? jesus.
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yeah.. what else is there to talk about?
:lol:
why can't stephan just produce the whole album? jesus.
I kind of understand that Vanessa wants to work with a couple of different people to maybe get a different perspective on her songs because that can help her grow. And she does seem to be sticking with Stephan for most of the songs (unless I'm behind in some news).
I just don't like her choice of Linda Perry. :thumbsdown: At first I figured that Perry probably isn't one-dimensional and maybe she and Vanessa could come up with some cool stuff together, but, after hearing those clips of This Time, my early optimism was completely shot down. :2guns:
I'm curious about how the third album is going to sound and flow when it is completely finished, and my anticipation is still high, but I'm definately preparing myself for a letdown compared to Harmonium...something I wouldn't be doing if it was just Stephan again. Those two are genius together. :heart:
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It seems, though, that Vanessa does really like Linda Perry from what I hear.
Maybe she wants to be popular like she once was, and she is feeling pressure from the people that like that kind of music.
To be honest, I hope Vanessa stays as she is because I really like her music, but if she does change I can understand why. No one is forced to like her new music, I just hope that someone out there does.
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It seems, though, that Vanessa does really like Linda Perry from what I hear.
Maybe she wants to be popular like she once was, and she is feeling pressure from the people that like that kind of music.
I'm really hoping that isn't all there is to it, because that is the definition of selling out. :cry:
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yeah.. what else is there to talk about?
:lol:
why can't stephan just produce the whole album? jesus.
I kind of understand that Vanessa wants to work with a couple of different people to maybe get a different perspective on her songs because that can help her grow. And she does seem to be sticking with Stephan for most of the songs (unless I'm behind in some news).
I just don't like her choice of Linda Perry. :thumbsdown: At first I figured that Perry probably isn't one-dimensional and maybe she and Vanessa could come up with some cool stuff together, but, after hearing those clips of This Time, my early optimism was completely shot down. :2guns:
I'm curious about how the third album is going to sound and flow when it is completely finished, and my anticipation is still high, but I'm definately preparing myself for a letdown compared to Harmonium...something I wouldn't be doing if it was just Stephan again. Those two are genius together. :heart:
i don't think i've ever agreed with you so much, in such a short time, as i have in this thread, max. and i agree with your next post too.. completely the definition of selling out. i really don't think it's going to come to that though. the main thing i'm worried about is the flow, and not liking every song on the album, etc. i don't know.. it just worries me.
but.. i mean, i hung out with her in march.. i really can't picture her selling out and wanting to be famous and popular again. i don't think it'll happen. i think she'll make what music she wants to.. hopefully that will coincide with what we all like.
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i don't think i've ever agreed with you so much, in such a short time, as i have in this thread, max.
That just means you're getting smarter! :lol: 8) :wink:
and i agree with your next post too.. completely the definition of selling out. i really don't think it's going to come to that though. the main thing i'm worried about is the flow, and not liking every song on the album, etc. i don't know.. it just worries me.
but.. i mean, i hung out with her in march.. i really can't picture her selling out and wanting to be famous and popular again. i don't think it'll happen. i think she'll make what music she wants to.. hopefully that will coincide with what we all like.
You would know better than me because you actually met her and got to talk with her, and I agree based on what I know about her that she doesn't seem the type that would just straight up sell out, but, based on some of the things she's said recently about promising fans the next ablum will be a huge hit, I'm a little worried about an unconcious sell out. But, like you, I still don't think it will be full blown because that's just not her and I think I'll like most of her album, but it's going to be really frustrating listening to songs that Perry produces and wondering how much better they could of sounded with Stephan's guidance.
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yup. exactly (except the getting smarter part. i don't do that. hey wait.. lol)
i had a dream last night that linda perry was producing a lot, but stephan was still working on all of those songs to make sure they were good.
it made me feel better. lol. then i found out it was a dream.
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Too bad your dreams aren't like the kids in the Freddy Krueger movies and end up affecting reality. :lol: