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Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: czarina on June 01, 2007, 08:42:35 am
http://fmqb.com/article.asp?id=16691

Whats this? (7/17) Should I start screaming with excitement yet?
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: KULPDOGG on June 01, 2007, 09:35:52 am
july 17th...
Nolita Fairytale...

what the heck??????????

i'm confused... is this the name of a song??
a single??

the single??????

:O

well, if it is, it'll be a song no one's heard before... considering I don't recall that name being said anywhere....



...you might wanna change the title of this thread to be more attention getting...


EDIT::
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
Quote
Mott St. between Houston St. and Prince St., New York, N.Y.Nolita, sometimes written as NoLIta (North of Little Italy), is a neighborhood in the borough of Manhattan in New York City. Nolita is bounded on the north by Houston Street, on the east by the Bowery, on the south roughly by Broome Street, and on the west roughly by Lafayette Street. It lies east of SoHo, south of NoHo, west of the Lower East Side, and north of Little Italy and Chinatown.

The neighborhood was long regarded as part of Little Italy. The area, however, lost its recognizable Italian character in recent decades because of the migration of Italian-Americans out of Manhattan to other boroughs.

In the second half of the 1990s, the neighborhood saw an influx of young urban professionals and an explosion of expensive retail boutiques and trendy restaurants and bars. Having previously tried unsuccessfully to pitch the neighborhood as part of SoHo, real estate promoters and others came up with several different suggested names for this newly upscale neighborhood. The name that stuck, first taken from an ad campaign in the Village Voice by real estate agent William R. MacLeod, Jr. in 1994, was Nolita, an abbreviation for North of Little Italy. This name follows the pattern started by SoHo (South of Houston Street) and TriBeCa (Triangle Below Canal Street).



so, it's of New York origin... which makes sense...
ah! I wanna hear this song so badly now...
........
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: czarina on June 01, 2007, 09:49:22 am
I changed the title so maybe people will notice more now he he.

That site lists upcoming singles so it looks like it may be the first single. But its weird because I always assumed it would be a song we had at least heard the title of and that Vanessa herself would blog something. I wonder if its a mistake?
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: joann on June 01, 2007, 09:51:30 am
maybe they just renamed something we have already heard

I don't think V is blogging much anymore
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: NolitaFairytale on June 01, 2007, 09:56:42 am
OMG OMG OMG!! I wanna hear it so badly too, or if it is just a song renamed, I wanna know what one. I can't think of any songs that I know of from her that fit that title really.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Gina on June 01, 2007, 10:12:03 am
Wow... awesome!  I'd really like to hear it!  I like the name, the reference to the area in the city.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Extraordinary Machine on June 01, 2007, 10:20:29 am
Well done czarina for finding this. If the single will be released in July, I'd guess that the album would follow in September or October. "Nolita Fairytale" is a very interesting title.

Now we know when the single is out, I think we should organise some sort of initiative for people to request the song at radio stations, vote for it on video countdowns, spread the word about it etc. We could have a thread with links and email addresses to different websites for radio and video stations. What do you think?
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: amberbeads on June 01, 2007, 10:41:28 am
neato  :D
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Ghisy on June 01, 2007, 12:04:40 pm
8O  8O
Wow, great find!!
Nolita Fairytale huh, that's a pretty cool name for a song!
I wanna hear!!!!!
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: marxu on June 01, 2007, 01:48:08 pm
awesome. the 42 sec. audio clip of the song sounds really cool! can't wait to hear the whole song...
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: ManuelD on June 01, 2007, 01:52:33 pm
Is the file working for any of you?
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: NolitaFairytale on June 01, 2007, 02:02:57 pm
OMG!!!!!!! WHAT A SONG! I AM LISTENING TO IT AS WE SPEAK! I LOVE IT!!!! OMG!! ALL OF YOU CLICK ON THE LINK NOW NOW NOW! :D. It isn't the full thing though :(. I am so happy right now xD. It reminds me of Private Radio in the sense with her singing over herself.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Ghisy on June 01, 2007, 02:07:22 pm
Ohhhhhhh there's a sample now!! *DIES*
This sounds so awesome!!! *DIES AGAIN*
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Gina on June 01, 2007, 02:13:57 pm
So far, I LOOOOVE it.  Sounds amazing!  Can't wait to hear the full thing, but I'm so excited there's at least a sampling!
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: PianoGirl4444 on June 01, 2007, 02:16:27 pm
I LOVE the clip!  It's amazing!  Thanks for posting this.   :)
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Imaginary Ocean on June 01, 2007, 02:22:09 pm
OH MY GOD !!!!
So she's back ! I can't believe it !!!!!!!!!!!!!!  :D  :D
Do you think the new album will be released in july ??????
OH MY GOD, OH MY GOD !!!! I love the song !
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: whitehouses81680 on June 01, 2007, 02:22:44 pm
wait, i can't get to the clip
it says that i don't have the application to open it

nessa lives near broome street, doesn't she? so this kinda makes sense!

and it gives us a DATE 7/17!!!!!!!
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: NolitaFairytale on June 01, 2007, 02:23:40 pm
I think you have to have Real Player, and even though I have it I had to download an add-on thing, but it took like 10 seconds xD.

EDIT:

The album comes out on the July 17th???
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: B on June 01, 2007, 02:29:48 pm
I like the clip! I will be interested to hear the full song. It will suck to wait another month and a half to hear it on radio, but eh.  :lol:
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: ManuelD on June 01, 2007, 02:46:16 pm
The file is still not working for me.  :?
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Martin. on June 01, 2007, 02:48:21 pm
Me neither :(

The title sounds interesting though!

VANESSA IS BACK!!!
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Martin. on June 01, 2007, 02:52:59 pm
Quote from: "charmed_one"
I think you have to have Real Player, and even though I have it I had to download an add-on thing, but it took like 10 seconds xD.

EDIT:

The album comes out on the July 17th???


Nah, that's when the single goes for adds.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: KULPDOGG on June 01, 2007, 02:56:04 pm
I made a .mp3 of the clip and uploaded it.

http://www.sendspace.com/file/3r45nc



 8O  I'm freakin out!!!!
I need to hear the whole song AHHHHHH

possible lyrics coming soon... lol....
I need to obsess over this more
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Martin. on June 01, 2007, 02:58:12 pm
Quote from: "KULPDOGG"
I made a .mp3 of the clip and uploaded it.

http://www.sendspace.com/file/3r45nc



 8O  I'm freakin out!!!!
I need to hear the whole song AHHHHHH

possible lyrics coming soon... lol....
I need to obsess over this more


Thanks!

Wow, I like this! The video should be interesting!
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: NolitaFairytale on June 01, 2007, 03:05:32 pm
Quote from: "white_houses"
Quote from: "charmed_one"
I think you have to have Real Player, and even though I have it I had to download an add-on thing, but it took like 10 seconds xD.

EDIT:

The album comes out on the July 17th???


Nah, that's when the single goes for adds.


What do you mean by that?   :oops:  :oops:  :oops:
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Martin. on June 01, 2007, 03:06:33 pm
Quote from: "charmed_one"
Quote from: "white_houses"
Quote from: "charmed_one"
I think you have to have Real Player, and even though I have it I had to download an add-on thing, but it took like 10 seconds xD.

EDIT:

The album comes out on the July 17th???


Nah, that's when the single goes for adds.


What do you mean by that?   :oops:  :oops:  :oops:


Lol, I'm not from the US so I might get it wrong, but I think it means that's when it hits radio and all that stuff.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: NolitaFairytale on June 01, 2007, 03:07:03 pm
Oh wow. Thanks :D.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: ManuelD on June 01, 2007, 03:13:07 pm
Quote from: "KULPDOGG"
I made a .mp3 of the clip and uploaded it.

http://www.sendspace.com/file/3r45nc



 8O  I'm freakin out!!!!
I need to hear the whole song AHHHHHH

possible lyrics coming soon... lol....
I need to obsess over this more


Thanks, funny thing, I had already installed Real Player and was able to listen to it, I should just have waited.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: KULPDOGG on June 01, 2007, 03:16:29 pm
lyrics... pretty sure of them now.. I went over the song several times...
then again, some of them seem kinda awkward, so I donno...
-------------------

{you} are, choose, wait, patiently
I walk the streets with a song in my head
(The air bend we flow so)
Got my toes on my pup at the foot of my bed
(My heart always seems to know)
I'll take a glimpse back, I want the soul instead
'Cause I found some kind fairy tale
I used to hover outside my truth
Always worry


-----------------------------


edit:
here's another link to download it from incase the one I posted above doesn't work.
http://www.mediafire.com/?3bcmrmxgqmg
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: HarmySandwhich on June 01, 2007, 03:50:12 pm
Arghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

I less than three it!
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Martin. on June 01, 2007, 03:52:43 pm
I think this is how this line goes:

"Well take the glimpse back, I want the soul instead"
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: portions.for.foxes on June 01, 2007, 03:54:38 pm
It sounds interesting. It sounds like it'll be a stronger single than White Houses was.

Haha, I can just see the Tori Amos fandom getting into a uproar because they're all convinced Vanessa is constantly ripping Tori off. Which I really don't understand, 'cuz I mean, we all know Vanessa is way better anyway. Haha.

Watch them be all, "AHHH A SORTA FAIRYTALE! YOU BITCH! YOU BITCH!" Haha.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: HarmySandwhich on June 01, 2007, 03:54:49 pm
I love it. It's awesome and it does sound alittle different from what she would usually do (unless it's only me who thinks it). It sounds quite jazzy and I'll admit, it sorta reminded me of John Mayer's blues side (that was the first thought in my mind, i'll have you know).
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Martin. on June 01, 2007, 03:57:16 pm
I love the piano riff. This song sounds kinda like indie but more pop.

I can't wait for the whole song to leak!
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: czarina on June 01, 2007, 04:11:08 pm
The clip is sure interesting! Its difficult for me to tell how it will build because it sounds chopped at a weird time, but I like it and I do think it sounds like John Mayer's more bluesy side.
I cannot believe its finally happening you guys!!!!
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: KULPDOGG on June 01, 2007, 04:15:39 pm
If anyone would like to add the clip to their myspace, I have it uploaded to myspace.

just go to :
http://myspace.com/andrewkulp
and click "Add" under the song in the player thingy.

I already added it to mine.  :D
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: HarmySandwhich on June 01, 2007, 04:18:06 pm
Quote from: "czarina"
The clip is sure interesting! Its difficult for me to tell how it will build because it sounds chopped at a weird time, but I like it and I do think it sounds like John Mayer's more bluesy side.
I cannot believe its finally happening you guys!!!!


Well at least I wasn't the only one  :lol:. It specifically reminds me of the ending of, "Something's Missing" (John Mayer's Heavier Things, album - when he says, "Check").

I agree guys. I really can't fucking wait for the new album. It was quite strange actually. Lately, I've been listening to a lot of Harmonium and I formed the opinion that Nessa can never beat this and even she did [from Pleased to Meet You] however I really think she can with Heroes and Thieves. This track reassures me that she can.
I know this might be sadistic of me but I don't want to music to be, how should I say, commericalised in the comic sense. I guess that sounded a little wrong [perhaps I just can't explain what i'm thinking] but if you can work out what i'm feeling, i'm pretty sure i'm not the only one feeling like this.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: PutYourHandsOnMe101 on June 01, 2007, 04:30:04 pm
Wow...... I can't believe I just heard that! :o  F#$%ing Amazing! 8O  Like you guys said it's almost bluesy like John Mayor. It sounds poppy and catchy though too.... CAN'T WAIT FOR THE REST!!! :D  :D  :D
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: HarmySandwhich on June 01, 2007, 04:36:28 pm
I know. I'm so excited for it. It took me sometime to get into Harmonium (I still can't listen to Papa that much because I don't really like the chorus) and theres were always one track that I tend to skip (Wanted) but with all this new stuff coming out - I've yet to click that skip button.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: tylor2000 on June 01, 2007, 05:17:55 pm
Quote from: "KULPDOGG"
lyrics... pretty sure of them now.. I went over the song several times...
then again, some of them seem kinda awkward, so I donno...
-------------------

{you} are, choose, wait, patiently
I walk the streets with a song in my head
(The air bend we flow so)
Got my toes on my pop at the foot of my bed
(My heart always seems to know)
I'll take a glimpse back, I want the soul instead
'Cause I found some kind fairy tale
I used to hover outside my truth
Always worry


-----------------------------



It sounds more like to me:


you are to wait patiently
I walk the streets with a song in my head
The heavenly SoHo
Got my toes on my pup at the foot of my bed
My heart always seems to know
I'll take a glimpse back, I want the sole instead
'Cause I found some kind of fairy tale
I used to hover outside my truth
Always worry


If I'm right I couldn't have done it without you writing it out like you did.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Martin. on June 01, 2007, 05:18:32 pm
i really like this now - i just hope it's a hit for her.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: ManuelD on June 01, 2007, 05:28:00 pm
I'm so glad we won't have to wait anymore.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: VaderDawsn on June 01, 2007, 05:46:24 pm
Awesome.. Thanks for the great news and the MP3 clip! I am so excited. We finally have a date..even if it's just for the first single.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: NolitaFairytale on June 01, 2007, 05:51:30 pm
You are, truth, wait. Patiently.
Walk the streets with a song in my head,
[Heaven we flow so]
Got my toes on my pup at the foot of my bed
[My heart always seems to know]
I'll take a glimpse back, I want the soul instead,
'Cause I've found some kind of fairy tale.
I used to, hover, outside my truth.
Always worry.

Some of it doesn't really make sense to me but that is what I hear :razz:.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: tylor2000 on June 01, 2007, 06:08:11 pm
I don't know if I am seeing something that is not there, but I think this has a double meaning.

You are supposed to read between the lines, so to speak.

She is saying one thing but really saying another depending on who you are or without saying it to you directly.

For instance:

**What she is saying/what you could be reading between the lines**

You are to wait patiently/choose
I walk the streets with a song in my head
The heavenly SoHo/evidently we flow so
Got my toes on my pup at the foot of my bed
My heart always seems to know
I take a glimpse back; I want the sole instead/I take a glimpse back; I want the soul instead
'Cause I found some kind of fairy tale
I used to hover outside my truth
Always worry


You can now call me crazy....but at least it might be entertaining
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: tylor2000 on June 01, 2007, 06:09:48 pm
Quote from: "charmed_one"
You are, truth, wait. Patiently.
Walk the streets with a song in my head,
[Heaven we flow so]
Got my toes on my pup at the foot of my bed
[My heart always seems to know]
I'll take a glimpse back, I want the soul instead,
'Cause I've found some kind of fairy tale.
I used to, hover, outside my truth.
Always worry.

Some of it doesn't really make sense to me but that is what I hear :razz:.


I was writing the post above but you beat me to it at least the other side of the lyrics.  haha   I think that explains the last two lines  --two meanings.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: IfICouldFall on June 01, 2007, 06:10:53 pm
This is amazing! I can't believe that I haven't been on this site for 2 days and suddenly, a new single release date is released!!! Wow...  :D  :D  :D

EDIT: Is it me or does V sound kinda different... well, I don't care because this song is pretty good!
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: PutYourHandsOnMe101 on June 01, 2007, 06:40:43 pm
Quote from: "IfICouldFall"
This is amazing! I can't believe that I haven't been on this site for 2 days and suddenly, a new single release date is released!!! Wow...  :D  :D  :D

EDIT: Is it me or does V sound kinda different... well, I don't care because this song is pretty good!


She does sound a little different. Her vocals to me seem more controlled and emotional if that makes sense. I love everything about this :blueblob:  :blob:  :blueblob:  :blob:  :blueblob:
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: LimeTwister on June 01, 2007, 07:25:19 pm
I ran into V on Lafayette St.

Not that it has anything to do with this thread at all.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Angelcorrine on June 01, 2007, 08:02:47 pm
SQUEAL!

This. makes.  today.  awesome!
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: B on June 01, 2007, 08:51:05 pm
"We ebb and we flow so" is the only real lyrical correction/addition I can concretely make at this point, lol. It will be a lot easier once we hear the whole song :)
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: KULPDOGG on June 01, 2007, 09:24:40 pm
-------------------

{you} are, choose, wait, patiently
I walk the streets with a song in my head
(We ebb and we flow so)
Got my toes on my pup at the foot of my bed
(My heart always seems to know)
I'll take a glimpse back, I want the soul instead
'Cause I found some kinda fairytale
I used to hover outside my truth
Always worry


-----------------------------

I changed "pop" to pup.
 I think I accidently typed that, lol.
donno how that happened...

anyway... I'm just not hearing anything different..

except ...
1)the 3rd line is "We ebb and we flow so" ...upon research, I discovered that "ebb and flow" is a phrase, and ebb is a real word  :lol:
thanks, B :wink:
2)the 6th line could be "Well" instead of "I'll" but I'm hearing more "I'll"


....
yeah I can't wait to hear the rest of this... 42 seconds isn't enough :lol:
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: clamicas on June 01, 2007, 09:31:42 pm
can't wait to hear a full version
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Manda on June 01, 2007, 09:53:54 pm
Wow, I'm sorry but "Nolita Fairytale" is a great name. I agree!

The clip was amazing. Can't stop listening to it. My heart is racing, my cheeks are red, and I'm can't stop screaming with excitement.

She always seems to take my breath away with everything.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Twilight_Angel on June 02, 2007, 12:55:25 am
i heard it and immediatly started dancing!  :lol:

looks like her new album is gonna be as good as we thought! :D
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Gingernut on June 02, 2007, 01:00:37 am
Aw, what a pretty song! I'm so excited now :D
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: feishien on June 02, 2007, 01:24:47 am
I can't wait to hear the rest of this song!
And now I'm even more excited for V's new album :D
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Twilight_Angel on June 02, 2007, 01:28:41 am
Quote from: "KULPDOGG"
I made a .mp3 of the clip and uploaded it.

http://www.sendspace.com/file/3r45nc



 8O  I'm freakin out!!!!
I need to hear the whole song AHHHHHH

possible lyrics coming soon... lol....
I need to obsess over this more


downloaded??

i think i love you.  :lol:
OMG its on my ipod!!!! O_O *faints*
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: saphire on June 02, 2007, 02:07:08 am
i tink i die ride now for excitement. Can't wait for july. The song sounds amazing even if i believe that it's not a hitsingle. But whatever. I love it. She's soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo amazing *scream*
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: NolitaFairytale on June 02, 2007, 05:25:55 am
Hey guys I have a question. If it is coming out on July 17th, why is it under a page titled June?
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Twilight_Angel on June 02, 2007, 05:33:10 am
maybe it was just a typo?
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Martin. on June 02, 2007, 06:00:58 am
i'm pretty sure it's "well take the glimpse back, i want the soul instead".

i hope a full version of this song leaks soon, too.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: phu on June 02, 2007, 06:38:51 am
Quote
Carlton's album Heroes and Thieves, currently scheduled for an October 9 release
...
It's always hard to pick out a hit after an isolated listen, but if lead single "Nolita Fairytale" — "Take away my record deal/You know, I don't need it/...I've found some kinda fairytale" — isn't in heavy radio and MTV rotation by the end of summer, I'll be surprised. And possible second single "Hands on Me" ... sounded tailor-made for a rom-com trailer coming soon to a theater near you.


http://popwatch.ew.com/popwatch/2007/06/irv_gotti_vanes.html
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Martin. on June 02, 2007, 06:59:18 am
oh shit, Vanessa is BACK!!!!

i love the "Take away my record deal/You know, I don't need it/...I've found some kinda fairytale" line!

GET IT, V!
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: whitehouses81680 on June 02, 2007, 06:59:36 am
"Turns out he didn't try to transform Carlton into an urban diva after all. ("I think [her fans] would have beat me up," he explained.)"

hahah!
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Ghisy on June 02, 2007, 07:49:36 am
Quote from: "phu"
Quote
Carlton's album Heroes and Thieves, currently scheduled for an October 9 release

:dances:
Hopefully that won't change and I will know where I am in October for my vacations!! :D
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: ManuelD on June 02, 2007, 08:19:56 am
Quote from: "phu"
Quote
Carlton's album Heroes and Thieves, currently scheduled for an October 9 release
...
It's always hard to pick out a hit after an isolated listen, but if lead single "Nolita Fairytale" — "Take away my record deal/You know, I don't need it/...I've found some kinda fairytale" — isn't in heavy radio and MTV rotation by the end of summer, I'll be surprised. And possible second single "Hands on Me" ... sounded tailor-made for a rom-com trailer coming soon to a theater near you.


http://popwatch.ew.com/popwatch/2007/06/irv_gotti_vanes.html


Cool, I can have it as a birthday present.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: KULPDOGG on June 02, 2007, 08:21:02 am
8O  WE HAVE A DATE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

<3
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: ManuelD on June 02, 2007, 08:31:37 am
"Hands On Me" will be the second single!, there will be a second single!.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Emmyspiano on June 02, 2007, 08:32:44 am
this song is amazing!!!!! i cant wait to hear the whole thing! it's going to be my summer song, i know it.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Martin. on June 02, 2007, 08:36:04 am
Quote from: "ManuelD"
"Hands On Me" will be the second single!, there will be a second single!.


POSSIBLE second single, lol :P

but yeah, i can't wait for her now!

let's hope she gets promoted right this time round.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: HarmySandwhich on June 02, 2007, 09:09:10 am
October 9th is quite a long way away from the previously set date. Nonetheless, I'm stoked. I can't wait for Heroes and Thieves to come out.
Title: ....
Post by: Nanc77 on June 02, 2007, 10:05:54 am
sweet! i LOVE nolita! Such a quaint little part of town
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: ILoveHanson on June 02, 2007, 11:00:30 am
omg i am crying. that song is so beautiful. she is beautiful. i love her so fucking much.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Vanity on June 02, 2007, 01:02:48 pm
Oh, I just love it. Can't wait to hear the full version.
And I'm happy HOM might be the second single. It's been my choice for the first single so far, but as long as it's a single, I'm happy. Even if it end up being the third single :wink:
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: PianoPlayer12 on June 02, 2007, 03:16:01 pm
This song is AMAZING!
I've got the clip on repeat on its own iTunes playlist...i cant get tired of it!!
This song definately sounds like a hit!! Im glad HOM will probably be the second single...
God, im so excited...
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: CelestialHorse on June 02, 2007, 03:43:45 pm
This is exciting! :D Very nice! I wonder what songs will be used as music videos..wasn't Annie going to be the 2nd single off the 2nd album?
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Vanity on June 02, 2007, 03:55:27 pm
Quote from: "CelestialHorse"
Wasn't Annie going to be the 2nd single off the 2nd album?

I don't think there ever was any specific song in mind to be the second single off Harmonium, but I think someone on the o-board once mentioned that V had hinted that it would be Private Radio.

But, anyway, I'm still counting on HOM to be the second single of H&T :D
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: VaderDawsn on June 02, 2007, 03:56:59 pm
A date for the album..woohoo!!!!  I'm disappointed it's delayed to October but I am HAPPY we got a date THIS year!! So Overall I am very happy and looking forward to the new album (and promoting it). :D  :D  :D  :D
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: HarmySandwhich on June 02, 2007, 04:07:09 pm
Quote from: "CelestialHorse"
This is exciting! :D Very nice! I wonder what songs will be used as music videos..wasn't Annie going to be the 2nd single off the 2nd album?


I'm pretty sure it was supposed to be Private Radio. I know for certain that it was released as a second single.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Martin. on June 02, 2007, 04:23:26 pm
It was?

Can you get the CD single? Why wasn't a music video shot?
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: HarmySandwhich on June 02, 2007, 04:32:45 pm
Quote from: "white_houses"
It was?

Can you get the CD single? Why wasn't a music video shot?


I don't think you can get a CD single but I'm quite sure, Private Radio came out on radio play after White Houses. It apparently made #9 in the Taiwanese charts in 2004. I'm getting these from Wikipedia. If you wiki Nessa, you can see all the singles that have come out and Private Radio appears as the second. Who's to say was released in 2005.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: rainforestspirit on June 02, 2007, 07:44:23 pm
OMG! Thanks for finding this and posting it. And thanks for making an mp3. I LOVE it!!

And the lyrics make so much more sense now that I know another lyric in the song is "Take away my record deal/You know, I don't need it/...I've found some kinda fairytale"

This explains the lyrics "My heart always seems to know" and "I want the soul instead" "I used to hover outside my truth" so well, doesn't it? It is a TAKE THAT at her old record label, a new outlook on life, refreshing way to follow her heart in her music....

Such a personal song and I love it, especially now that I know the meaning.

The only question is....will the general public love it as much as us, her fans? Dare I ask the question? Sorry to bring it up but this is what is going to be on everyone's mind. Most people don't get a second chance in the music industry. V's very lucky and we all know that is be cause she is talented and her old label is [insert flammatory phrase here].

So, even though I love it, I think "Hands on Me" would have been a better choice for her first single. I think it has more universal appeal....even though I can totally understand were V is coming from in releasing this as her first single to let everyone know she is back, following her heart and never giving up. What do you all think?
~Carly
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Jophess on June 02, 2007, 07:59:56 pm
Full version come quickly!

How did I miss this? I checked the boards like two times today.
At first, I was eh about the song, but these 42 seconds have grown on me and now I'm really excited.
It's definitely not blues, it's sorta pop-ish, upbeat... summer-y stuff. I like it. The album will be awesome, but OCTOBER? Maybe they'll move it up.  :wink:
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: itsthefiveofus on June 02, 2007, 08:29:08 pm
OMG!!!!!!!!!!! I AM SOOOO EXITED AND ITS IRONIC BECUASE I HAD A DREAM LAST NIGHT WERE I WAS LISTING TO A NEW SINGLE FROM VANESSA CARLTON ON MY COMPUTER AND ITS SOOOOOO WEIRD OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG THIS MADE MY DAY FOR THE NEXT FEW DAYS..WEEKS.. =] 9999999999999999999
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: B on June 02, 2007, 08:48:37 pm
:D Sweet.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: PianoPlayer12 on June 02, 2007, 08:51:12 pm
Quote from: "HarmySandwhich"
Quote from: "white_houses"
It was?

Can you get the CD single? Why wasn't a music video shot?


I don't think you can get a CD single but I'm quite sure, Private Radio came out on radio play after White Houses. It apparently made #9 in the Taiwanese charts in 2004. I'm getting these from Wikipedia. If you wiki Nessa, you can see all the singles that have come out and Private Radio appears as the second. Who's to say was released in 2005.


Yaa...Private Radio and Whos to Say were only released in Taiwan...White Houses was the only one released in the states...
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: tylor2000 on June 02, 2007, 09:06:10 pm
Quote from: "KULPDOGG"
8O  WE HAVE A DATE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

<3


What? How the hell?

http://forum.nessaholics.com/viewtopic.php?t=10190&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

 :wink:  :razz:
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: KULPDOGG on June 02, 2007, 09:32:07 pm
:lol:

ooo, if only it were true :(
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: MeganJane on June 02, 2007, 10:25:42 pm
Hmmm.... at first I wasn't really impressed, but it's slowly growing on me. I think it's because I like her "dark side" and this sounds upbeat and summery. However, it is catchy and I'm sure I'll end up liking it. I love the guitar part.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Ghisy on June 03, 2007, 12:00:11 am
About the possible singles from "Harmonium", I found this cd a while ago:

(http://perso.wanadoo.fr/nessa/harmoniumcdr.jpg)

As you can see, 3 songs are highlighted: "White Houses" was the 1st single, "Private Radio" the potential 2nd and "Afterglow" the potential 3rd.

Alright, back on topic now!! :)
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Jessica on June 03, 2007, 12:49:24 am
um. it sounds like the theme song for a 90's children's show.

let's hope it grows on me.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Twilight_Angel on June 03, 2007, 02:01:40 am
it doesnt sound like a theme song to me  :?
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: HarmySandwhich on June 03, 2007, 02:07:49 am
Quote from: "Jophess"
Full version come quickly!

How did I miss this? I checked the boards like two times today.
At first, I was eh about the song, but these 42 seconds have grown on me and now I'm really excited.
It's definitely not blues, it's sorta pop-ish, upbeat... summer-y stuff. I like it. The album will be awesome, but OCTOBER? Maybe they'll move it up.  :wink:


I disagree whole heartedly. It has a distinct blues vibe. I know this because I listen to a lot of blues music from Howlin' Wolf to Stevie Ray Vaughan. If anything, it sounds like John Mayer blues.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Twilight_Angel on June 03, 2007, 02:19:04 am
Quote from: "HarmySandwhich"
Quote from: "Jophess"
Full version come quickly!

How did I miss this? I checked the boards like two times today.
At first, I was eh about the song, but these 42 seconds have grown on me and now I'm really excited.
It's definitely not blues, it's sorta pop-ish, upbeat... summer-y stuff. I like it. The album will be awesome, but OCTOBER? Maybe they'll move it up.  :wink:


I disagree whole heartedly. It has a distinct blues vibe. I know this because I listen to a lot of blues music from Howlin' Wolf to Stevie Ray Vaughan. If anything, it sounds like John Mayer blues.


I agree with Jophess lol it does sound upbeat and summery. But then again I dont listen to blues so maybe i'm wrong.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: ordinaryday6 on June 03, 2007, 08:51:06 am
dude, this is awesome.. thanks to pianoplayer12 for keeping me informed. :)

i may be wrong, but i could swear that this was one of the songs they were playing pre-show at 3eb shows. anyone else think so?

i thought of a sorta fairytale when i saw the title too.. but tori fans can shut it. she didn't copyright the word fairytale or something stupid like that.. and the two songs are nothing alike..

nolita fairytale is a really awesome song title. :D i'm really excited!
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: KULPDOGG on June 03, 2007, 09:21:40 am
now that I listen more...

she is saying "I found some kinda fairytale"

which matches with that article we found before...
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: PianoPlayer12 on June 03, 2007, 09:27:34 am
Quote from: "ordinaryday6"
dude, this is awesome.. thanks to pianoplayer12 for keeping me informed. :)


its an awesome song hey......ive listened to the clip 140 times so far on iTunes, and a tons more times on my iPod...lol i LOVE IT.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: PianoGirl4444 on June 03, 2007, 09:38:11 am
I know it's just a clip, but from what I've heard so far, it is my favorite song from the new album.   :)
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Twilight_Angel on June 03, 2007, 09:43:40 am
the chorus is just...incredible. I love it!!!
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Rainy night on June 03, 2007, 02:57:45 pm
haaaaaaaaa V  :heart:
I loooove Nolita Fairytale, looove it, love it!!!  <3  <3
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: PianoPlayer12 on June 03, 2007, 05:05:29 pm
Quote from: "Twilight_Angel"
the chorus is just...incredible. I love it!!!


I know!! I LOVE the chorus!!
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Jessica on June 03, 2007, 08:53:43 pm
Quote from: "Ghisy"
About the possible singles from "Harmonium", I found this cd a while ago:

(http://perso.wanadoo.fr/nessa/harmoniumcdr.jpg)

As you can see, 3 songs are highlighted: "White Houses" was the 1st single, "Private Radio" the potential 2nd and "Afterglow" the potential 3rd.

Alright, back on topic now!! :)


lol ghis i just noticed that the apple in your avatar looks exactly like the mac logo. kind of ironic considering you're always talking shit about apple ;p
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: zurielshimon on June 04, 2007, 12:20:58 am
Interesting.  It took me by surprise at first, so I've had to play it again and again.  I really wish I could hear how it starts out because I'd be able to tell more about it, but I certainly think it's something I could like.  I mean, I do like what I can hear of it, but I'd rather form a more informed opinion.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: tylor2000 on June 04, 2007, 03:01:01 am
Quote from: "zurielshimon"
Interesting.  It took me by surprise at first, so I've had to play it again and again.  I really wish I could hear how it starts out because I'd be able to tell more about it, but I certainly think it's something I could like.  I mean, I do like what I can hear of it, but I'd rather form a more informed opinion.


I'm the same way.  I don't like clips.  It causes people to become bias one way or the other before hearing the whole song.  In VC's music I think that is important because of the way we particularly listen to music.  I'm glad to hear of a release date, though.  I'm glad to hear she is about to release music and make money as well as supply us with fully completed music we can become excited about.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: ordinaryday6 on June 04, 2007, 07:43:53 am
i want the whole thing! but then i kind of don't, because we already know most of the songs on the album.. it would be nice to hear it on the radio and have it be the first time.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: charmedguy18 on June 04, 2007, 09:31:10 am
I already have the clip set as my Facebook song. ^_^ (Yay for Facebook apps!)
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Ghisy on June 04, 2007, 09:39:55 am
Quote from: "Jessica"
lol ghis i just noticed that the apple in your avatar looks exactly like the mac logo. kind of ironic considering you're always talking shit about apple ;p

I know. I found that pic a long time ago and thought it was cool because it's about NYC (the "Big Apple") and the logo is an apple.
It's not supposed to support or endorse Apple in any way, just fyi. ;)

Now I need a new avatar, damn!
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: LimeTwister on June 04, 2007, 09:53:10 am
Quote from: "charmedguy18"
I already have the clip set as my Facebook song. ^_^ (Yay for Facebook apps!)


not a big fan of facebook apps...too much stuff,  facebook is supposed to be clean and boring.

the anti-myspace, if you will.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: nosticker on June 04, 2007, 10:10:19 am
Quote from: "Ghisy"
About the possible singles from "Harmonium", I found this cd a while ago:

(http://perso.wanadoo.fr/nessa/harmoniumcdr.jpg)

As you can see, 3 songs are highlighted: "White Houses" was the 1st single, "Private Radio" the potential 2nd and "Afterglow" the potential 3rd.

Alright, back on topic now!! :)


Holy Crap, check out  1. the different running order, and 2. Different mix of Annie(!)

What does this CD sound like?


Dan/NS
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Ghisy on June 04, 2007, 10:55:30 am
Quote from: "nosticker"
What does this CD sound like?

The cd contains slightly different mixes of some songs:
- Annie is "unmixed" as the cover says (it has some background vocals at some point that aren't on the final version),
- Afterglow is slightly different as well (drums are added in the piano intro),
- Who's To Say is about 25 seconds shorter,
- She Floats is about 28 seconds shorter as well.
As you have also noticed, the cd only has 10 songs and The Wreckage isn't on it.
There you go! ;)
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: KULPDOGG on June 04, 2007, 11:56:14 am
Quote from: "Ghisy"
Quote from: "nosticker"
What does this CD sound like?

The cd contains slightly different mixes of some songs:
- Annie is "unmixed" as the cover says (it has some background vocals at some point that aren't on the final version),
- Afterglow is slightly different as well (drums are added in the piano intro),
- Who's To Say is about 25 seconds shorter,
- She Floats is about 28 seconds shorter as well.
As you have also noticed, the cd only has 10 songs and The Wreckage isn't on it.
There you go! ;)


i'm confused...
you have audio for these different versions??
share :?
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: HarmySandwhich on June 04, 2007, 12:19:33 pm
Alright guys - own up (if it's anyone here). My Nolita Fairytale video on Youtube has been rated from 5 stars down to 3 and a half stars. Who was it?
Also - we've been cheering Nolita Fairytale for sometime and I haven't heard a single negative comment about it. I'm not sure about you but i'm getting a bad feeling about this - no music should receive 100% positive feedback otherwise it gives a chance for a bad omen to present itself.

I'll start. I love the track to bits but i'm feeling that the rest of it may be slightly repetitive and that I may get bored of it too quickly.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: KULPDOGG on June 04, 2007, 12:28:45 pm
Quote from: "HarmySandwhich"
Alright guys - own up (if it's anyone here). My Nolita Fairytale video on Youtube has been rated from 5 stars down to 3 and a half stars. Who was it?
Also - we've been cheering Nolita Fairytale for sometime and I haven't heard a single negative comment about it. I'm not sure about you but i'm getting a bad feeling about this - no music should receive 100% positive feedback otherwise it gives a chance for a bad omen to present itself.

I'll start. I love the track to bits but i'm feeling that the rest of it may be slightly repetitive and that I may get bored of it too quickly.


wasn't me, but I just checked now...
the version you put up has horrible quality...
i checked, and other people who put it on youtube don't have it sounding any different than the original clip.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: HarmySandwhich on June 04, 2007, 12:31:40 pm
Quote from: "KULPDOGG"
Quote from: "HarmySandwhich"
Alright guys - own up (if it's anyone here). My Nolita Fairytale video on Youtube has been rated from 5 stars down to 3 and a half stars. Who was it?
Also - we've been cheering Nolita Fairytale for sometime and I haven't heard a single negative comment about it. I'm not sure about you but i'm getting a bad feeling about this - no music should receive 100% positive feedback otherwise it gives a chance for a bad omen to present itself.

I'll start. I love the track to bits but i'm feeling that the rest of it may be slightly repetitive and that I may get bored of it too quickly.


wasn't me, but I just checked now...
the version you put up has horrible quality...
i checked, and other people who put it on youtube don't have it sounding any different than the original clip.


Yeah. I'm sorry about that - the same thing happened with my Jessica Harp track. I'm using Windows Movie maker to make these videos and the quality turns out horribly. Any suggestions?
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Twilight_Angel on June 04, 2007, 12:35:56 pm
do you upload it with DSL or a slower broadband type? Cause it happened when i accidently uploaded it with other then DSL. If that makes sense! Like where it has speed options?
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: HarmySandwhich on June 04, 2007, 12:38:29 pm
Quote from: "Twilight_Angel"
do you upload it with DSL or a slower broadband type? Cause it happened when i accidently uploaded it with other then DSL. If that makes sense! Like where it has speed options?


I can't remember. I think it was DSL. Windows Movie maker just makes it sound like a very bad demo. I may just end up using a manual camera (blackened at the viewing end of course) and adding the track to it myself using Total Video Converter or something.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Twilight_Angel on June 04, 2007, 12:42:16 pm
Quote from: "HarmySandwhich"
Quote from: "Twilight_Angel"
do you upload it with DSL or a slower broadband type? Cause it happened when i accidently uploaded it with other then DSL. If that makes sense! Like where it has speed options?


I can't remember. I think it was DSL. Windows Movie maker just makes it sound like a very bad demo. I may just end up using a manual camera (blackened at the viewing end of course) and adding the track to it myself using Total Video Converter or something.


Oh! then I'm stuck. I make lots of videos and i havent ever encountered that problem before. Just try making it again, if it doesnt work then, well I duno whats up with it :P
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: amberbeads on June 04, 2007, 12:50:51 pm
Quote from: "HarmySandwhich"
Alright guys - own up (if it's anyone here). My Nolita Fairytale video on Youtube has been rated from 5 stars down to 3 and a half stars. Who was it?
Also - we've been cheering Nolita Fairytale for sometime and I haven't heard a single negative comment about it. I'm not sure about you but i'm getting a bad feeling about this - no music should receive 100% positive feedback otherwise it gives a chance for a bad omen to present itself.

I'll start. I love the track to bits but i'm feeling that the rest of it may be slightly repetitive and that I may get bored of it too quickly.

i think it's just okay. i'll definitely need to hear the rest of it. i'm not that impressed so far.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Star7 on June 04, 2007, 12:54:56 pm
i like it but i cant say it's my favorite song yet
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: PianoPlayer12 on June 04, 2007, 01:50:42 pm
Quote from: "KULPDOGG"
Quote from: "Ghisy"
Quote from: "nosticker"
What does this CD sound like?

The cd contains slightly different mixes of some songs:
- Annie is "unmixed" as the cover says (it has some background vocals at some point that aren't on the final version),
- Afterglow is slightly different as well (drums are added in the piano intro),
- Who's To Say is about 25 seconds shorter,
- She Floats is about 28 seconds shorter as well.
As you have also noticed, the cd only has 10 songs and The Wreckage isn't on it.
There you go! ;)


i'm confused...
you have audio for these different versions??
share :?


LOL im conufsed to...:S
If you have the different versions, would you mind posting them Ghisy?
Title: Nolita the definition...
Post by: Rick on June 04, 2007, 06:18:18 pm
Nolita (Acronym): North of Little Italy (NYC Neighborhood) ~Dawn.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: PianoPlayer12 on June 04, 2007, 06:35:54 pm
Nolita is someplace in New York...
im sure there is more than one definition, or meaning of it...but for her song, i pretty sure shes referring to the nolita in New York...
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: feishien on June 05, 2007, 02:55:53 am
Quote from: "PianoPlayer12"
Quote from: "KULPDOGG"
Quote from: "Ghisy"
Quote from: "nosticker"
What does this CD sound like?

The cd contains slightly different mixes of some songs:
- Annie is "unmixed" as the cover says (it has some background vocals at some point that aren't on the final version),
- Afterglow is slightly different as well (drums are added in the piano intro),
- Who's To Say is about 25 seconds shorter,
- She Floats is about 28 seconds shorter as well.
As you have also noticed, the cd only has 10 songs and The Wreckage isn't on it.
There you go! ;)


i'm confused...
you have audio for these different versions??
share :?


LOL im conufsed to...:S
If you have the different versions, would you mind posting them Ghisy?


I second this!
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: portions.for.foxes on June 05, 2007, 09:14:15 am
Quote from: "feishien"
Quote from: "PianoPlayer12"
Quote from: "KULPDOGG"
Quote from: "Ghisy"
Quote from: "nosticker"
What does this CD sound like?

The cd contains slightly different mixes of some songs:
- Annie is "unmixed" as the cover says (it has some background vocals at some point that aren't on the final version),
- Afterglow is slightly different as well (drums are added in the piano intro),
- Who's To Say is about 25 seconds shorter,
- She Floats is about 28 seconds shorter as well.
As you have also noticed, the cd only has 10 songs and The Wreckage isn't on it.
There you go! ;)


i'm confused...
you have audio for these different versions??
share :?


LOL im conufsed to...:S
If you have the different versions, would you mind posting them Ghisy?


I second this!


Third.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: BWilli on June 05, 2007, 09:30:09 am
just listened to the clip...i think that song is gonna take some getting used to...not sure i like it just yet...but then again, it was only a clip
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Twilight_Angel on June 05, 2007, 09:33:15 am
Quote from: "portions.for.foxes"
Quote from: "feishien"
Quote from: "PianoPlayer12"
Quote from: "KULPDOGG"
Quote from: "Ghisy"
Quote from: "nosticker"
What does this CD sound like?

The cd contains slightly different mixes of some songs:
- Annie is "unmixed" as the cover says (it has some background vocals at some point that aren't on the final version),
- Afterglow is slightly different as well (drums are added in the piano intro),
- Who's To Say is about 25 seconds shorter,
- She Floats is about 28 seconds shorter as well.
As you have also noticed, the cd only has 10 songs and The Wreckage isn't on it.
There you go! ;)


i'm confused...
you have audio for these different versions??
share :?


LOL im conufsed to...:S
If you have the different versions, would you mind posting them Ghisy?


I second this!


Third.


Forth :P :D
Title: ...
Post by: William Glast on June 05, 2007, 11:53:57 am
Fifth
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: HarmySandwhich on June 05, 2007, 11:57:15 am
Sixth...
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Ghisy on June 05, 2007, 12:51:16 pm
Kids, take it easy!
I don't have time to do that now, maybe in the next few days.
My PC is kinda dying and I'm getting the new one on Friday.
If I manage to do it before, I'll let you know.
But just so you don't wait for something huge, these versions aren't much different, it's not like you'll be listening to brand new material.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Twilight_Angel on June 05, 2007, 12:56:57 pm
ah....ok :) well thanks in advance
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: blueglove on June 05, 2007, 01:19:52 pm
gishy- where did you get this?
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: iKnowWhatYouDid on June 05, 2007, 06:49:12 pm
i don't want to judge to quickly but.. am i the only one not thrilled with "nolita fairytale" ? i think it can grow on me, but i really don't know how well it will do as a single.. not to be debbie downer or anything (waaah waaah).  i trust vanessa but i kind of feel HOM would make a better single to start off with.. :|
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: ManuelD on June 05, 2007, 07:01:05 pm
Quote from: "iKnowWhatYouDid"
i don't want to judge to quickly but.. am i the only one not thrilled with "nolita fairytale" ? i think it can grow on me, but i really don't know how well it will do as a single.. not to be debbie downer or anything (waaah waaah).  i trust vanessa but i kind of feel HOM would make a better single to start off with.. :|


I feel the same way about Nolita Fairytale but I still think that it will be a better single than Hands on Me.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: ordinaryday6 on June 05, 2007, 07:15:20 pm
i dunno.. i really like this song, so far, though before i really pass judgement on it, i want to hear the whole thing (!!!).. i think hands on me would make a great single though.. and i think nolita fairytale could do well too. so all in all, i'm satisfied with nf being the first single and hom being a possible second.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Dora on June 05, 2007, 07:21:58 pm
yeah it hasn't grown on me, but hey there's plenty of other songs I'll like.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Ghisy on June 05, 2007, 09:45:41 pm
Quote from: "blueglove"
gishy- where did you get this?

The Internet is a wonderful place ;)
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Twilight_Angel on June 05, 2007, 10:54:59 pm
I think its going to do well! I mean the chorus just does it for me, its extremaly good! so if the rest of the song is like it, it will be one awesome record.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: me and my piano---tim on June 06, 2007, 01:11:59 am
instantly in love *faints*  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: HarmySandwhich on June 06, 2007, 03:26:18 pm
http://www.direct-current.net/#newsStory1864

I'm not sure if anyone's seen this. It's just a small print but according to this site, Nolita Fairytale is about her crap label.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: VaderDawsn on June 06, 2007, 04:51:54 pm
Quote from: "HarmySandwhich"
http://www.direct-current.net/#newsStory1864

I'm not sure if anyone's seen this. It's just a small print but according to this site, Nolita Fairytale is about her crap label.


Thanks for sharing the article. I am happy to see more VC articles popping up :D  :D  :D
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: rainforestspirit on June 06, 2007, 06:50:02 pm
Quote from: "HarmySandwhich"
http://www.direct-current.net/#newsStory1864

I'm not sure if anyone's seen this. It's just a small print but according to this site, Nolita Fairytale is about her crap label.


Yep, thanks for sharing....it's kinda like the other article that was posted though....http://popwatch.ew.com/popwatch/2007/06/irv_gotti_vanes.html

I love those lyrics in the song - can't wait to actually hear them since they weren't in the clip. I just wonder how she is going to do it.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: rainforestspirit on June 06, 2007, 06:53:14 pm
Quote from: "iKnowWhatYouDid"
i don't want to judge to quickly but.. am i the only one not thrilled with "nolita fairytale" ? i think it can grow on me, but i really don't know how well it will do as a single.. not to be debbie downer or anything (waaah waaah).  i trust vanessa but i kind of feel HOM would make a better single to start off with.. :|


Yeah, I kind of mentioned this earlier in the thread....I definately think HOM would make a much better single to start off with. MUCH better song for the masses. Just as I think Private Radio would have been the best first single from Harmonium. I LOVE White Houses, don't get me wrong, it just wasn't the best way to start off her second album with the pop crowd.

I feel the same way about Nolita Fairytale - LOVE the song but not the best choice to start out with. Very personal, just like White Houses is.

::Keeping fingers crossed::
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: blueglove on June 06, 2007, 10:34:14 pm
Quote from: "rainforestspirit"
Quote from: "iKnowWhatYouDid"
i don't want to judge to quickly but.. am i the only one not thrilled with "nolita fairytale" ? i think it can grow on me, but i really don't know how well it will do as a single.. not to be debbie downer or anything (waaah waaah).  i trust vanessa but i kind of feel HOM would make a better single to start off with.. :|


Yeah, I kind of mentioned this earlier in the thread....I definately think HOM would make a much better single to start off with. MUCH better song for the masses. Just as I think Private Radio would have been the best first single from Harmonium. I LOVE White Houses, don't get me wrong, it just wasn't the best way to start off her second album with the pop crowd.

I feel the same way about Nolita Fairytale - LOVE the song but not the best choice to start out with. Very personal, just like White Houses is.

::Keeping fingers crossed::



I think that the summer is all about upbeat stuff.. I think it is a good idea to make a more up-beat song release in the summer, and more minor song for the fall or winter... I think that nolita fairytale is a decent song, I have not heard the whole thing.... But I think it is a better choice for people to jam out to some vanessa carlton - then be moved by HOM... The other choice was House/Home... Irv said that was going to be the single. It is very somber, basic, and mellow, but as it goes on it builds well... It becomes upbeat, but still minor, and has some good melodic structures that are movie-esq like HOM does

"Leaving now Im alone I've always known with you I am home"
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: jen_spen on June 07, 2007, 02:59:39 am
wow it's not AS obviously piano based as all of her other songs! that's cool! they've changed her sound slightly! and yes i DEFINETLY thing she should release PYHOM everyone i know whose heard it goes wow that's an awesome song, and that's people who don't know who she is!
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: HarmySandwhich on June 07, 2007, 07:02:57 am
Quote from: "jen_spen"
wow it's not AS obviously piano based as all of her other songs! that's cool! they've changed her sound slightly! and yes i DEFINETLY thing she should release PYHOM everyone i know whose heard it goes wow that's an awesome song, and that's people who don't know who she is!


Yeah I see what you mean. Nessa has some of those songs which aren't very piano based. The ones I can think of are Private Radio and Sway.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: blueglove on June 07, 2007, 07:25:52 am
Quote from: "HarmySandwhich"
Quote from: "jen_spen"
wow it's not AS obviously piano based as all of her other songs! that's cool! they've changed her sound slightly! and yes i DEFINETLY thing she should release PYHOM everyone i know whose heard it goes wow that's an awesome song, and that's people who don't know who she is!


Yeah I see what you mean. Nessa has some of those songs which aren't very piano based. The ones I can think of are Private Radio and Sway.


really you think so. I love the piano in sway. I think that unsung is not a piano based song... nor is her cover of paint it black
I love the piano bridge for sway.... Unsung.. ehh

i think prince, and pretty baby one of the edits have kin da crappy piano..
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: ordinaryday6 on June 07, 2007, 09:26:26 am
there's apparently a lot of guitar on this album. which is cool with me. :D
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Twilight_Angel on June 07, 2007, 11:07:48 am
...i havent heard hands on me properly yet  :oops:

i need to really....i mean you all seem to like it so well.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: HarmySandwhich on June 07, 2007, 11:39:55 am
Quote from: "Twilight_Angel"
...i havent heard hands on me properly yet  :oops:

i need to really....i mean you all seem to like it so well.


 8O

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ViWVAAMnQc

Here's the studio version:

Link coming in a second
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Twilight_Angel on June 07, 2007, 11:44:47 am
I shall listen  :oops:  thankyou for the link  :wink:
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: HarmySandwhich on June 07, 2007, 11:47:55 am
Quote from: "Twilight_Angel"
I shall listen  :oops:  thankyou for the link  :wink:


http://www.mediafire.com/?2yzzotrxdyt

This is the studio version.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: KULPDOGG on June 07, 2007, 12:36:49 pm
Quote from: "HarmySandwhich"
Quote from: "Twilight_Angel"
I shall listen  :oops:  thankyou for the link  :wink:


http://www.mediafire.com/?2yzzotrxdyt

This is the studio version.



what the heck??

no, there is no studio version yet.
I think that's the US Open version, which is live.
someone just cut off the ending with people clapping and it saying "more us open"
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: HarmySandwhich on June 07, 2007, 12:41:20 pm
Quote from: "KULPDOGG"
Quote from: "HarmySandwhich"
Quote from: "Twilight_Angel"
I shall listen  :oops:  thankyou for the link  :wink:


http://www.mediafire.com/?2yzzotrxdyt

This is the studio version.



what the heck??

no, there is no studio version yet.
I think that's the US Open version, which is live.
someone just cut off the ending with people clapping and it saying "more us open"


 8O

But it sounds so genuine! It doesn't sound live at all.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: KULPDOGG on June 07, 2007, 12:43:30 pm
Quote from: "HarmySandwhich"
Quote from: "KULPDOGG"
Quote from: "HarmySandwhich"
Quote from: "Twilight_Angel"
I shall listen  :oops:  thankyou for the link  :wink:


http://www.mediafire.com/?2yzzotrxdyt

This is the studio version.



what the heck??

no, there is no studio version yet.
I think that's the US Open version, which is live.
someone just cut off the ending with people clapping and it saying "more us open"


 8O

But it sounds so genuine! It doesn't sound live at all.


it was televised...
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: HarmySandwhich on June 07, 2007, 12:45:57 pm
Quote from: "KULPDOGG"
Quote from: "HarmySandwhich"
Quote from: "KULPDOGG"
Quote from: "HarmySandwhich"
Quote from: "Twilight_Angel"
I shall listen  :oops:  thankyou for the link  :wink:


http://www.mediafire.com/?2yzzotrxdyt

This is the studio version.



what the heck??

no, there is no studio version yet.
I think that's the US Open version, which is live.
someone just cut off the ending with people clapping and it saying "more us open"


 8O

But it sounds so genuine! It doesn't sound live at all.


it was televised...


 :oops:  :cry:
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: KULPDOGG on June 07, 2007, 12:50:03 pm
Quote from: "HarmySandwhich"
Quote from: "KULPDOGG"
Quote from: "HarmySandwhich"
Quote from: "KULPDOGG"
Quote from: "HarmySandwhich"
Quote from: "Twilight_Angel"
I shall listen  :oops:  thankyou for the link  :wink:


http://www.mediafire.com/?2yzzotrxdyt

This is the studio version.



what the heck??

no, there is no studio version yet.
I think that's the US Open version, which is live.
someone just cut off the ending with people clapping and it saying "more us open"


 8O

But it sounds so genuine! It doesn't sound live at all.


it was televised...


 :oops:  :cry:

simple mistake, it does sound really good.

thanks though, now I have a version of that song without the clapping at the end 8)
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: iKnowWhatYouDid on June 07, 2007, 03:19:13 pm
Quote from: "jen_spen"
wow it's not AS obviously piano based as all of her other songs! that's cool! they've changed her sound slightly! and yes i DEFINETLY thing she should release PYHOM everyone i know whose heard it goes wow that's an awesome song, and that's people who don't know who she is!


maybe that's why i don't like it so much? well i don't know if i don't like it, it just seems like a very different song for vanessa.. it sounds a lot like the weepies, you can definitely notice that influence.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: blueglove on June 07, 2007, 05:08:56 pm
that is the same as the edition that I have from the Us Open
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: HarmySandwhich on June 08, 2007, 11:23:57 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jrNNQoBMXBY#GU5U2spHI_4

"I have the whole song" -

YOU WHAT?!
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: ManuelD on June 08, 2007, 01:10:59 pm
Quote from: "HarmySandwhich"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jrNNQoBMXBY#GU5U2spHI_4

"I have the whole song" -

YOU WHAT?!


Has anyone written him a private message to ask for the song?
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: HarmySandwhich on June 08, 2007, 01:36:27 pm
Yeah - I did. Still no PM back.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: rainforestspirit on June 08, 2007, 02:13:22 pm
Quote from: "blueglove"

I think that the summer is all about upbeat stuff.. I think it is a good idea to make a more up-beat song release in the summer, and more minor song for the fall or winter... I think that nolita fairytale is a decent song, I have not heard the whole thing.... But I think it is a better choice for people to jam out to some vanessa carlton - then be moved by HOM... The other choice was House/Home... Irv said that was going to be the single. It is very somber, basic, and mellow, but as it goes on it builds well... It becomes upbeat, but still minor, and has some good melodic structures that are movie-esq like HOM does

"Leaving now Im alone I've always known with you I am home"


First of all, you have an audio of house?? Can you please send it to me or put up a link?? I would love to hear it - I haven't yet!

good point. HOM is not as up beat. The corus is a bit upbeat though...but the rest of the song isn't. however, more people would be able to relate to it since it is a song about thinking that someone is your soul mate and that other person doesn't feel the same way. I have a feeling a lot of people have experienced this. However Nolita Fairytale is very personal to V and others might not be able to relate - kind of like white houses and why it did not do very well as a single. I haven't heard Houses yet though so I can't comment.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: rainforestspirit on June 08, 2007, 02:17:54 pm
Quote from: "KULPDOGG"
Quote from: "HarmySandwhich"
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Quote from: "HarmySandwhich"
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Quote from: "Twilight_Angel"
I shall listen  :oops:  thankyou for the link  :wink:


http://www.mediafire.com/?2yzzotrxdyt

This is the studio version.



what the heck??

no, there is no studio version yet.
I think that's the US Open version, which is live.
someone just cut off the ending with people clapping and it saying "more us open"


 8O

But it sounds so genuine! It doesn't sound live at all.


it was televised...


 :oops:  :cry:

simple mistake, it does sound really good.

thanks though, now I have a version of that song without the clapping at the end 8)


really? I think it sounds like a studio version of it too....I just listened to the us open version and this version and I think they sound different. This clip is much better - much clearer and V's voice sounds much better. Like she got her best take of the song.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: HarmySandwhich on June 08, 2007, 02:26:16 pm
I haven't heard House either. I think it's one of those tracks which only a few privilleged people have heard - like Spring Street.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Martin. on June 08, 2007, 02:37:05 pm
It isn't a studio version, someone just extracted the audio from the video.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: rainforestspirit on June 08, 2007, 06:00:24 pm
Quote from: "white_houses"
It isn't a studio version, someone just extracted the audio from the video.


Well, I don't have the video either. I've actually never even been able to hear the song. Where did you get the video? I couldn't find it on youtube...
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Ghisy on June 09, 2007, 12:06:10 am
Quote from: "HarmySandwhich"
I haven't heard House either. I think it's one of those tracks which only a few privilleged people have heard - like Spring Street.

Vanessa played "House" during her soundcheck at the Giant showcase back on Oct 2006.
Only blueglove and I were there and he has the audio that he didn't want to share back then (there was a heated discussion about it).
End of story.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Twilight_Angel on June 09, 2007, 01:09:30 am
Quote from: "Ghisy"
Quote from: "HarmySandwhich"
I haven't heard House either. I think it's one of those tracks which only a few privilleged people have heard - like Spring Street.

Vanessa played "House" during her soundcheck at the Giant showcase back on Oct 2006.
Only blueglove and I were there and he has the audio that he didn't want to share back then (there was a heated discussion about it).
End of story.


didnt want to share? mean possibly? well w/e we'll hear it whenever lol
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: HarmySandwhich on June 09, 2007, 02:19:50 am
Quote from: "Ghisy"
Quote from: "HarmySandwhich"
I haven't heard House either. I think it's one of those tracks which only a few privilleged people have heard - like Spring Street.

Vanessa played "House" during her soundcheck at the Giant showcase back on Oct 2006.
Only blueglove and I were there and he has the audio that he didn't want to share back then (there was a heated discussion about it).
End of story.


I'm on it. Give me a week and I'll get it

:lol:
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: blueglove on June 09, 2007, 08:14:45 am
Quote from: "HarmySandwhich"
Quote from: "Ghisy"
Quote from: "HarmySandwhich"
I haven't heard House either. I think it's one of those tracks which only a few privilleged people have heard - like Spring Street.

Vanessa played "House" during her soundcheck at the Giant showcase back on Oct 2006.
Only blueglove and I were there and he has the audio that he didn't want to share back then (there was a heated discussion about it).
End of story.


I'm on it. Give me a week and I'll get it

:lol:


good luck it is only on a cd, and ipod, both of wich are mia right now... (pissed)
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: portions.for.foxes on June 09, 2007, 10:07:35 am
Quote from: "blueglove"
Quote from: "HarmySandwhich"
Quote from: "Ghisy"
Quote from: "HarmySandwhich"
I haven't heard House either. I think it's one of those tracks which only a few privilleged people have heard - like Spring Street.

Vanessa played "House" during her soundcheck at the Giant showcase back on Oct 2006.
Only blueglove and I were there and he has the audio that he didn't want to share back then (there was a heated discussion about it).
End of story.


I'm on it. Give me a week and I'll get it

:lol:


good luck it is only on a cd, and ipod, both of wich are mia right now... (pissed)


Karma.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Twilight_Angel on June 09, 2007, 12:28:05 pm
Quote from: "HarmySandwhich"
Quote from: "Ghisy"
Quote from: "HarmySandwhich"
I haven't heard House either. I think it's one of those tracks which only a few privilleged people have heard - like Spring Street.

Vanessa played "House" during her soundcheck at the Giant showcase back on Oct 2006.
Only blueglove and I were there and he has the audio that he didn't want to share back then (there was a heated discussion about it).
End of story.


I'm on it. Give me a week and I'll get it

:lol:


Will you marry me?  :lol:
you are a legend!
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Nanc77 on June 09, 2007, 12:40:08 pm
Quote from: "portions.for.foxes"
Quote from: "blueglove"
Quote from: "HarmySandwhich"
Quote from: "Ghisy"
Quote from: "HarmySandwhich"
I haven't heard House either. I think it's one of those tracks which only a few privilleged people have heard - like Spring Street.

Vanessa played "House" during her soundcheck at the Giant showcase back on Oct 2006.
Only blueglove and I were there and he has the audio that he didn't want to share back then (there was a heated discussion about it).
End of story.


I'm on it. Give me a week and I'll get it

:lol:


good luck it is only on a cd, and ipod, both of wich are mia right now... (pissed)


Karma.



lmao.. that was hilarious.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: rainforestspirit on June 09, 2007, 06:30:05 pm
Quote from: "Ghisy"
Quote from: "HarmySandwhich"
I haven't heard House either. I think it's one of those tracks which only a few privilleged people have heard - like Spring Street.

Vanessa played "House" during her soundcheck at the Giant showcase back on Oct 2006.
Only blueglove and I were there and he has the audio that he didn't want to share back then (there was a heated discussion about it).
End of story.


ouch. okay, sorry to bring up a heated debate - I have been mia on these boards for a year or so....so, that must have been when that happened.

...but I must say that I second the karma comment above.  :lol:
Title: Nolita Fairytale(Full)
Post by: bran88 on June 09, 2007, 11:39:42 pm
I knew there was a thirty second snippet floating around about Vanessa's new single Nolita Fairytale, I found the full version of the song below. Really sorry if the song was posted already.

source: http://bizzom.com/top-stories/834/kanye-wests-bittersweet

http://www.zshare.net/audio/22101503a9bcee
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: blueglove on June 09, 2007, 11:41:22 pm
Quote from: "portions.for.foxes"
Quote from: "blueglove"
Quote from: "HarmySandwhich"
Quote from: "Ghisy"
Quote from: "HarmySandwhich"
I haven't heard House either. I think it's one of those tracks which only a few privilleged people have heard - like Spring Street.

Vanessa played "House" during her soundcheck at the Giant showcase back on Oct 2006.
Only blueglove and I were there and he has the audio that he didn't want to share back then (there was a heated discussion about it).
End of story.


I'm on it. Give me a week and I'll get it

:lol:


good luck it is only on a cd, and ipod, both of wich are mia right now... (pissed)


Karma.


oohh not so much karma anymore... PS I dont believe in that stuff... I found it on my mom's pod
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: blueglove on June 09, 2007, 11:44:08 pm
NO DEF NOT POSTED!!
NICE JOB!!
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: davidjp on June 09, 2007, 11:51:27 pm
omg, thanks a lot, u r freakin awesome!!!
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Manda on June 09, 2007, 11:57:00 pm
I can't thank you enough...I love you!!!
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: blueglove on June 10, 2007, 12:07:03 am
I like the middle part to play it too...can we say CLOCKS! lol


I like the statement, and the stevie thing... but I am not sure about the song.... i will enjoy it because it is Vanessa, but, it is like different

NolIta Fairytale LYRICS

I know, you know, We don't see
So are truth wait patiently

I walk the streets with a song in my head
     We ebb and Flow so
Got my toes on my pup at the foot of my bed
     My heart always seems to know
take the glitz back, I want the sole instead
'Cause I found some kind of fairy tale

I use to hover ouside my truth
    Always worry what I do
Take away my record deal
    Go on I don't need it
Spent the last 2 years getting twards real
    Now I can see so clear
I hope you feel just like I feel
    I found some kind of fairytale

Wanna garden by the ocean tide
Cuz i lose my way searching for stage lights
Stevie knows and I thank her so
cuz its your seeds I sew
And Now I know

Nolita flat on rent control
    That's the life I choose
Drag me to the fashion show
     the poses I see through
Movies in the afternoon

Cuz' I found some kind of fairytale
(HEY!Ba da da da da da)
NoLIta Fairytale (Ba da da da da da)
NoLIta Fairytale (Ba da da da da da)
NoLIta Fairytale
NoLIta Fairytale
NoLIta Fairytale
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: bluebutterfly on June 10, 2007, 12:48:04 am
Thankyou very much for posting that!

Can't say I'm in love with the song and the production on it etc....but it's still alright  :)
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: imaguest on June 10, 2007, 01:02:44 am
Quote from: "blueglove"
I like the middle part to play it too...can we say CLOCKS! lol


I like the statement, and the stevie thing... but I am not sure about the song.... i will enjoy it because it is Vanessa, but, it is like different

NolIta Fairytale LYRICS

I know, you know, We don't see
So are truth wait patiently

I walk the streets with a song in my head
     We ebb and Flow so
Got my toes on my pup at the foot of my bed
     My heart always seems to know
I'll take a glimpse back, I want the sole instead
'Cause I found some kind of fairy tale

I use to hover ouside my truth
    Always worry what I do
Take away my record deal
    Go on I don't need it
Spent the last 2 years getting twards real
    Now I can see so clear
I hope you feel just like I feel
    I found some kind of fairytale

Wanna garden by the ocean tide
Cuz I loose my way searching for states (Lights?)
Stevie knows and I thank her so
cuz its your seeds I sew
And Now I know

(Mean, I'm glad I break control???)
    That's the life I choose
Drag me to the fashion show
     the poses I see through
Movies in the afternoon

Cuz' I found some kind of fairytale
(HEY!Ba da da da da da)
NoLIta Fairytale (Ba da da da da da)
NoLIta Fairytale (Ba da da da da da)
NoLIta Fairytale
NoLIta Fairytale
NoLIta Fairytale


i think line 7 should be "take the glitz back, i want the soul instead", and line 22 should be "Nolita flat on rent control".  Other than that, everything looks right
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Gingernut on June 10, 2007, 02:27:41 am
Wanna garden by the ocean tide
Cuz I loose my way searching for states (Lights?)

I think the second line should be 'Cuz i lose my way searching for stage lights'

Anyone else?
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: jsbachsonata on June 10, 2007, 02:32:15 am
er... i love the song, but I am not sure about the broken lyric fragments and the static two note chord ostinato. I am not sure I can stand so little development within such a short pop song--- it's ok if it's art music but i don't find this too appealling in many cases of manistream pop. There is really no real chorus.. and i am a bit dissapointed about that, but the bridge and part b of the verse is frickin' beautiful. Not having a chorus in a pop song is one of the riskiest things you can try to pull off so good luck to vanessa. Also, I would really love it if she resolved the "tale" in fairytale. Ack it bugs me to death and the word tale seems like it's tacked on. I was imagining the word "fairytale" would be smooth and open as fairytale is a very "pleasant" word.  I would have prefered if she stayed on the same pitch for tale and concluded with the resolving chord after the piano ascending line, so I think vanessa's approach for that word is questionable. Also the reggaeton beat in the beginning and ending is just plain weird..... the whole song sounds like very WASP-y rock-mainstream and then comes in this reggaeton beat.... seriously, did lumidee come into the studio for a visit on the day this was recorded? I would have prefered some kind of piano prelude using the bridge piano ostinato. I am also wondering why in the world nessa would want to start the song on beat 2 of the measure.... just weird and i cannot come up with any plausible reason why that would be cool unless it's just to trick listeners into feeling that the two chord ostinato is very syncopated.

 Man... I really hoped for a straightforward pop song with that great touch of vanessa (something like ATM) but it turns out vanessa is gonna take a risk with this new song (there are many things that are risky.. good? bad?? i don't know). I think this song would sell if everyone just heard the bridge and focused on the instrumentation and very optimistic tone of the song (I really like the optimistic tone). I think these are great strengths, but there are some weaknesses I feel that might not make this song as catchy as it can be.......... so let's see what happens.

by the way, who likes the "hey!" at the ending vamp? It kinda sounds like an avril lavigne gesture quoted from girlfriend :p well, as I said let's see how well this song will be received... ATM is still THE perfect song from Vanessa Carlton.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Martin. on June 10, 2007, 02:56:36 am
Thanks for posting!

*Downloads*
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Martin. on June 10, 2007, 03:07:47 am
Oh wow, I really like this!

I hope she achieves success with this single. It's really good.

She's improved so much, vocally, too! Wow.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Ghisy on June 10, 2007, 03:31:15 am
HOLY SH*T!!!!!  8O
Thanks!

edit: ROFL, file is called "lolita fairytale"

edit(2): OMG!! I LOVE IT!!! Vanessa is baaaaaaaaack!! *dies*
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Ghisy on June 10, 2007, 04:02:35 am
NolIta Fairytale LYRICS

I know, you know,
We don't see
So our (?) truth, wait patiently

I walk the streets with a song in my head
We ebb and we flow so
Got my toes on my pup at the foot of my bed
My heart always seems to know
I take the glitz back, I want the soul instead
'Cause I found some kind of fairy tale

I used to
Hover outside my truth
Always worry of what I'll lose
To take away my record deal
Go on, I don't need it
Spent the last 2 years getting to what's real
Now I can see so clear
I hope you feel just like I feel
I found some kind of fairytale

Want a garden by the ocean tide
'Cause I lose my way searching for stage lights
But Stevie knows and I thank her so
'Cause it's your seeds I sow
And now I know

Nolita flat on rent control
That's the life I choose
And you drag me to the fashion show
The poses that I see through
The movies in the afternoon

'Cause I found some kind of fairytale
(HEY!Ba da da da da da)
NoLIta Fairytale (Ba da da da da da)
NoLIta Fairytale (Ba da da da da da)
NoLIta Fairytale
NoLIta Fairytale
NoLIta Fairytale

My 2 cents: I corrected some parts of blueglove's transcription.
If someone can find the missing parts though...

edit: I'll keep editing it with your help guys, thanks! :)
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: IfICouldFall on June 10, 2007, 04:39:00 am
Wow... I already effing love it! Mind you, it's like 6 in the morning and I saw this and I was like, "What the French toast?!?!"

THIS IS SO COOL!!! and I really do hope that V gets a good response to this via radio. Although, the "Hey!" did remind me of Avril's "Girlfriend".

It's all really catchy, foot tapper, gets stuck in your head, and I can't wait to learn this on the piano! Someone... transcribe??? lol  :D

It's so awesome that she mentioned Stevie! Now, that's appreciation right there!

Anyway, THIS (again) IS SO COOL!!! Thanks for sharing it with us! :D
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Martin. on June 10, 2007, 04:52:01 am
A lot of people I've sent it to seem to like it and share the same opinion. Here's one persons:

"I'm likin this and the mellow feel to it. She definitely doin something different and that's always good."

It definetley doesn't sound like what's out at the moment, so I think that'll work in V's favour.

Either way, it's a hot song.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Twilight_Angel on June 10, 2007, 04:57:39 am
I love you. I LOVE YOU!! omfg OMG give me a minute to get over it!!!!!
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: joann on June 10, 2007, 05:05:41 am
w o w

y a y

so much for snippets

HEY!
: )
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Gingernut on June 10, 2007, 05:25:50 am
I love this song! It's so fresh. I think people are gonna love it :)

edit: Ghisy, are you sure it's 'states lights?' I'm sure I can hear her pronounce a G. And I think stage lights makes more sense, lol
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Martin. on June 10, 2007, 05:26:37 am
Quote from: "Gingernut"
I love this song! It's so fresh. I think people are gonna love it :)


They better do. It's about time Vanessa got some recognition and success.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Ghisy on June 10, 2007, 05:42:26 am
Quote from: "Gingernut"
edit: Ghisy, are you sure it's 'states lights?' I'm sure I can hear her pronounce a G. And I think stage lights makes more sense, lol

Now that you say it, it may well be "stage lights" and it does make more sense.
I'll edit my post, thanks. What about the rest?
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Gingernut on June 10, 2007, 05:48:52 am
Quote from: "Ghisy"
Quote from: "Gingernut"
edit: Ghisy, are you sure it's 'states lights?' I'm sure I can hear her pronounce a G. And I think stage lights makes more sense, lol

Now that you say it, it may well be "stages' lights" and it does make more sense.
I'll edit my post, thanks. What about the rest?


Yep, I've been singing along to your version and I think most of its good I can't really figure out the parts you question though, sorry.

Oh and piano players, It seems so simple to play.
The 'I walk the streets with a song in my head
We ebb and Flow so ' Part only seems to be chords, I can't really work out a piano part for it... the chords are: F#m, A, E, B. That's what I get anyway.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: NolitaFairytale on June 10, 2007, 06:18:24 am
OMFG THANKS SO MUCH!!! I LOVE THE SONG! IT IS JUST FANTASTIC :D:D:D. I cannot wait for the release!!!
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Emmyspiano on June 10, 2007, 06:39:34 am
thank you so much. I love this, it has a new fresh sound, seems summer-y. I just have to get used a brand new V song studio recording. :)
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: NolitaFairytale on June 10, 2007, 06:44:21 am
Quote from: "Ghisy"
NolIta Fairytale LYRICS

I know, you know,
We don't see
So are truth, wait patiently :arrow: (huh??)

I walk the streets with a song in my head
We ebb and we flow so
Got my toes on my pup at the foot of my bed
My heart always seems to know
I take the glitz back, I want the soul instead
'Cause I found some kind of fairy tale

I used to
Hover outside my truth
Always worry of what I'll (*lose?)
To take away my record deal
Go on, I don't need it
Spent the last 2 years getting towards real
Now I can see so clear
I hope you feel just like I feel
I found some kind of fairytale

Want a garden by the ocean tide
'Cause I lose my way searching for stage lights
Stevie knows and I thank her so
'Cause it's your seeds I sow
And now I know

(??? *can't figure out the words*) I'm glad I break control
That's the life I choose
And you drag me to the fashion show
The poses that I see through
The movies in the afternoon

'Cause I found some kind of fairytale
(HEY!Ba da da da da da)
NoLIta Fairytale (Ba da da da da da)
NoLIta Fairytale (Ba da da da da da)
NoLIta Fairytale
NoLIta Fairytale
NoLIta Fairytale

My 2 cents: I corrected some parts of blueglove's transcription.
If someone can find the missing parts though...


(??? *can't figure out the words*) I'm glad I break control = Nolita Flat on Rent control.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Ghisy on June 10, 2007, 06:50:36 am
Quote from: "charmed_one"
(??? *can't figure out the words*) I'm glad I break control = Nolita Flat on Rent control.

YES YES!! good job! :)
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: ordinaryday6 on June 10, 2007, 07:45:11 am
Quote from: "Ghisy"
NolIta Fairytale LYRICS

I know, you know,
We don't see
So (our?) truth, wait patiently

I walk the streets with a song in my head
We ebb and we flow so
Got my toes on my pup at the foot of my bed
My heart always seems to know
I take the glitz back, I want the soul instead
'Cause I found some kind of fairy tale

I used to
Hover outside my truth
Always worry of what I'll lose
To take away my record deal
Go on, I don't need it
Spent the last 2 years getting towards real
Now I can see so clear
I hope you feel just like I feel
I found some kind of fairytale

Want a garden by the ocean tide
'Cause I lose my way searching for stage lights
Stevie knows and I thank her so
'Cause it's your seeds I sow
And now I know

Nolita flat on rent control
That's the life I choose
And you drag me to the fashion show
The poses that I see through
The movies in the afternoon

'Cause I found some kind of fairy...tale
(HEY!Ba da da da da da)
NoLIta Fairytale (Ba da da da da da)
NoLIta Fairytale (Ba da da da da da)
NoLIta Fairytale
NoLIta Fairytale
NoLIta Fairytale


just basically confirmed one of your guesses, and i think the other would make more sense if it was "our" instead of "are"

jeez.. i dunno guys.. i loved the clip.. i'm not so sure about the song though.. i'm sure it will grow on me, i guess. but i really think hands on me would be a better single. this one is very pointed.. if someone doesn't know the whole story about what happened with vanessa and everything, they're going to be like, wtf. i really don't like the line "spent the last 2 years gettin towards real." it seems.. i dunno.. it just doesn't sit well with me.

i like the 'ebb and flow' line, and the 'hover outside my truths' line..

i think the problem i have with the lyrics is, she gets really close to really great lyrics, and then the personal stuff ruins it for me.

I walk the streets with a song in my head
We ebb and we flow so
Got my toes on my pup at the foot of my bed
My heart always seems to know
I take the glitz back, I want the soul instead
'Cause I found some kind of fairy tale

great verse.. but the pup line is just weird and doesn't fit to me. that's basically the same for the other verses.

i really don't want to complain. because i am excited about having a new song. it's just going to take some time for me to get used to it i guess..
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: phu on June 10, 2007, 07:50:17 am
thanks for posting!  :blob:




Quote
So are truth wait patiently

i think it's
We sow our truth, wait patiently
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: jlmusicchick on June 10, 2007, 07:52:12 am
toward's the real should be changed to: to what's real

thanks for posting, it's fantastic :-)
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: iKnowWhatYouDid on June 10, 2007, 07:58:07 am
Quote from: "ordinaryday6"

jeez.. i dunno guys.. i loved the clip.. i'm not so sure about the song though.. i'm sure it will grow on me, i guess. but i really think hands on me would be a better single. this one is very pointed.. if someone doesn't know the whole story about what happened with vanessa and everything, they're going to be like, wtf. i really don't like the line "spent the last 2 years gettin towards real." it seems.. i dunno.. it just doesn't sit well with me.

i like the 'ebb and flow' line, and the 'hover outside my truths' line..

i think the problem i have with the lyrics is, she gets really close to really great lyrics, and then the personal stuff ruins it for me.

I walk the streets with a song in my head
We ebb and we flow so
Got my toes on my pup at the foot of my bed
My heart always seems to know
I take the glitz back, I want the soul instead
'Cause I found some kind of fairy tale

great verse.. but the pup line is just weird and doesn't fit to me. that's basically the same for the other verses.

i really don't want to complain. because i am excited about having a new song. it's just going to take some time for me to get used to it i guess..


thank you.. i think i like it better than the clip, but it's going to take some getting used to and i don't know how non-nessaholics will react.. i don't know. and about the weird lines.. i don't like the stevie line either, it's really weird to me and kind of cheesy. but i don't want to judge too quickly, and i have to trust vanessa..
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: ordinaryday6 on June 10, 2007, 08:00:38 am
yeah.. the stevie line, the pup line, the 2 years thing.. the seeds i sow is weird too.. i don't get it..

sigh. but. enough complaining.. :shrug:
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: rainforestspirit on June 10, 2007, 08:09:08 am
Wow!!! Thanks so much for posting. I can't believe I visited here last night and then I wake up and it's like omg we have a whole new song!

My 2 cents : I love the song!!! Great! But I agree with others that it is WAY too personal for it to be a single on the radio. People who are not her fans (and by this I mean big fans who are nessaholics or posted on her official website) are going to be like wtf!!! (as ordinaryday said). They are  not going to want to listen to it cause they don't understand it. We all do of course and that is probably why I personally like it so much. She is being very open about her personal life and I love it.

I also agree with jsbachsonata - that the beginning and end are too reggeaton and it just doesn't work well that way. Plus the fact that there is no chorus is just plain weird and EXTREMELY risky. And I agree with everything else s/he wrote - I am just not a musician so I could never write it out so that it made sense.

Again, I must say as I have said several times on here, HOM would be a much better choice for her first single. Risks can work well sometimes. However, come on V we want you to go right to #1!! And with what happened to the second album, risks are probably not the best choice at this point.

I totally understand she wants everyone to know why things didn't work out before. But seriously, we want this record to do extremely well and I just really don't see that happening if this is the first single. I would LOVE to be corrected come Oct. but I am just trying to be realistic. Please, Irv, release HOM first so that V can go straight to #1 and the album sells really well!!! Or fix some of the things in Nolita Fairytale so that we have a chorus!

Okay, that was probably more like 50 cents. haha. sorry!
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Jophess on June 10, 2007, 08:31:14 am
Yeah, I'm not sure if no chorus is the best choice. Maybe the "Nolita Fairytale... ba da da..." at the end will constitute as a chorus. I can see people walking around humming it.

Let's just trust V and Irv to promote it correctly. I can see it being a hit. I really do like it, it's great, but I have a feeling that I'll like the other songs on the album more (based on the songs we've heard).
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: PianoPlayer12 on June 10, 2007, 09:18:48 am
Thank you soooooooo much bran88 for posting this...


well i dunno what i think abou it really...i really like it, but i dont know the non-nessa fans will react to it..
ya i definately dont think it was a good idea not having a chorus...but oh well...
i just hope it does well :)
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: PianoPlayer12 on June 10, 2007, 09:23:08 am
hey...is someone gunna start working on the sheet music yet??
it sounds like it would be fun to play...but i cant figure any of it out.lol
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Promiscious-boy on June 10, 2007, 09:23:32 am
My God!!! My God!!!! My God!!!

I'm so proud to be her fan... more than never.. Vanessa makes me be sure she's the only one in this world......

She's the best damn thing (haha)

Can't believe I have it in my ears!!

Can't wait to have the album

My God! I wonder if it's gonna be out in Brazil...

I'm amazed.. Speechless..
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: portions.for.foxes on June 10, 2007, 09:31:25 am
Holy shit, it's definately a hot track, I love the percussion throughout the song. This song's definately a risk though, especially with the lyric scheme - people might be inclined to say, "Wtf?" upon first listen, haha.

For some reason, with all the effects and plays on her voice, especially during the begining of the bridge, I can't help but think of Imogen Heap.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Gingernut on June 10, 2007, 09:31:42 am
Quote from: "Promiscious-boy"

Vanessa makes me be sure she's the only one in this world......


It's true. We got rid of all those clones a crazed fan made for his own personal use.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: PianoGirl4444 on June 10, 2007, 09:37:38 am
My 2 cents:  LOVE the song.  I definitely think it's catchy enough to potentially be successful on the radio, even though the lyrics are odd.  There have been some straaaaange hit singles.  I think people generally care more about the melody than the lyrics.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: PianoPlayer12 on June 10, 2007, 09:49:36 am
Quote from: "portions.for.foxes"
For some reason, with all the effects and plays on her voice, especially during the begining of the bridge, I can't help but think of Imogen Heap.


Thats exactly what i was thinking...lol
Title: Re: Nolita Fairytale(Full)
Post by: charmedguy18 on June 10, 2007, 09:52:21 am
Quote from: "bran88"
I knew there was a thirty second snippet floating around about Vanessa's new single Nolita Fairytale, I found the full version of the song below. Really sorry if the song was posted already.

source: http://bizzom.com/top-stories/834/kanye-wests-bittersweet

http://www.zshare.net/audio/22101503a9bcee


Thanks! =]

I like the song.  For a second or two after she said "take away my record deal," I thought it was a joke. Haha

I don't think this is single material, though. I don't think this song is single material at all. I don't know. We'll see won't we?

*sings* Used to... hoovveer!
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: ordinaryday6 on June 10, 2007, 09:58:55 am
see, no chorus would be cool. i mean, take 3eb's motorcycle driveby.. it's basically a line of thought/poem type of thing.. the only thing you could possibly call a chorus, would be "i've never been so alone, and i've  been so alive.. and it's an amazing song. a fan favorite.

but not a single...
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: lavender skies on June 10, 2007, 10:03:29 am
I like it. I can't see it playing on the radio, though. However I can totally picture myself singing to it with the windows down in my car.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: ManuelD on June 10, 2007, 10:04:36 am
I like it so much better now. I love that it sounds a bit like a martial band in parts.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: HarmySandwhich on June 10, 2007, 10:47:36 am
FUCK YES!!!!!

I LOVE IT!
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: IfICouldFall on June 10, 2007, 10:51:38 am
Quote from: "PianoPlayer12"
hey...is someone gunna start working on the sheet music yet??
it sounds like it would be fun to play...but i cant figure any of it out.lol

Where's phu and maag when you need them at a time like this??? Lol!!  :D
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: HarmySandwhich on June 10, 2007, 10:57:21 am
God. Where do I start. This song is absolutely amazing. It's just exactly how I imagined it. I must admit I thought it would be slightly repetitive but I don't think that at all. I love the breakdown where she says, "Want a garden". Wow. And who says it doesn't sound like John Mayer?  :lol:

It's priceless. Awesome. I love it. Thank God.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: B on June 10, 2007, 11:03:01 am
FYI, I merged the first single topic with the song topic just to maintain continuity  :)
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: HarmySandwhich on June 10, 2007, 11:11:20 am
Quote from: "Twilight_Angel"
Quote from: "HarmySandwhich"
Quote from: "Ghisy"
Quote from: "HarmySandwhich"
I haven't heard House either. I think it's one of those tracks which only a few privilleged people have heard - like Spring Street.

Vanessa played "House" during her soundcheck at the Giant showcase back on Oct 2006.
Only blueglove and I were there and he has the audio that he didn't want to share back then (there was a heated discussion about it).
End of story.


I'm on it. Give me a week and I'll get it

:lol:


Will you marry me?  :lol:
you are a legend!


 :wink:

Who wouldn't? Of course.

B, I realised. I thought you deleted it for a second then for copyright infringments.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: KULPDOGG on June 10, 2007, 11:14:35 am
*mad at myself for oversleeping today*

i just woke up and I'm freaking out...



>_>
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: B on June 10, 2007, 11:17:42 am
Man that piano break is hot.

My try at the lyrics, I didn't make too many changes:

Nolita Fairytale LYRICS

I know, you know,
We don't see
We sow our truth, wait patiently

I walk the streets with a song in my head
We ebb and we flow so
Got my toes on my pup at the foot of my bed
My heart always seems to know
I take the glitz back, I want the soul instead
'Cause I found some kind of fairytale

I used to
Hover outside my truth
Always worry of what I'd lose
Take away my record deal
Go on, I don't need it
Spent the last 2 years getting to what's real
Now I can see so clear
I hope you feel just like I feel
I found some kind of fairytale

Want a garden by the ocean tide
'Cause I lose my way searching for stage lights
Well, Stevie knows and I thank her so
'Cause it's your seeds I sow
And now I know

Nolita flat on rent control
That's the life I choose
And you drag me to the fashion show
The poses that I see through
The movies in the afternoon

'Cause I found some kind of fairy...tale
(HEY!)
NoLIta Fairytale (Ba da da da da da)
NoLIta Fairytale (Ba da da da da da)
NoLIta Fairytale
NoLIta Fairytale
NoLIta Fairytale
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: HarmySandwhich on June 10, 2007, 11:18:49 am
God. They weren't kidding when they said there would be a lot of guitar  :lol: . Loooove it. Nolita Fairytale is my favourite Nessa Track on the new album and incidently, my favourite track by her.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: charmedguy18 on June 10, 2007, 11:20:05 am
People keep pointing out parts of the songs that relate to known events that happened to her in her life. We need to find more.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: B on June 10, 2007, 11:27:35 am
Quote from: "charmedguy18"
People keep pointing out parts of the songs that relate to known events that happened to her in her life. We need to find more.


It is pretty self explanatory, haha. V would do stuff to please the label, the label quit on her, she went on tour with Stevie, found herself, and now is making music about it  :lol:.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Ghisy on June 10, 2007, 11:42:54 am
Quote from: "B"
Man that piano break is hot.

WORD!! :D

Quote from: "B"
I know, you know,
We don't see
We sow our truth, wait patiently

[...]

Want a garden by the ocean tide
'Cause I lose my way searching for stage lights
Well, Stevie knows and I thank her so
'Cause it's your seeds I sow
And now I know

Oh man, that was so obvious!! haha
I can't believe I didn't make the connection, awesome job B! ;)
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: KULPDOGG on June 10, 2007, 11:45:31 am
I added the song to myspace and facebook.
so it's available.

http://kulpdogg.googlepages.com/VanessaCarlton-NolitaFairytale.mp3

theres an alternative download link^^
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: B on June 10, 2007, 11:56:36 am
Quote from: "Ghisy"
Quote from: "B"
Man that piano break is hot.

WORD!! :D

Quote from: "B"
I know, you know,
We don't see
We sow our truth, wait patiently

[...]

Want a garden by the ocean tide
'Cause I lose my way searching for stage lights
Well, Stevie knows and I thank her so
'Cause it's your seeds I sow
And now I know

Oh man, that was so obvious!! haha
I can't believe I didn't make the connection, awesome job B! ;)


Other people actually made those two corrections, I just made a few other nitpicky ones  :wink:
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: HarmySandwhich on June 10, 2007, 11:58:26 am
I'm hosting it on Youtube now but Youtube is being slow.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: KULPDOGG on June 10, 2007, 12:11:22 pm
I made a few changes.....
-------------------


I know, you know
We don't see
We sow our truth, wait patiently

I walk the streets with a song in my head
We ebb and we flow so
Got my toes on my pup at the foot of my bed
My heart always seems to know
Now take your glitz back, I want the soul instead
'Cause I found some kind of fairytale

I used to
Hover outside my truth
Always worry of what I'd lose
I take away my record deal
Go on, I don't need it
Spent the last two years getting to what's real
And now I can see so clear
I hope you feel just like I feel
I found some kind of fairytale

Want a garden by the ocean tide
Because I lose my way searching for stage lights
Well, Stevie knows and I thank her so
'Cause it's your seeds I sow
And now I know

Nolita flat on rent control
That's the life I choose
And you drag me to your fashion shows
The poses that I see through
The movies in the afternoon

'Cause I found some kind of fairy...tale
Hey!
NoLIta Fairytale (Ba da da da da da, Ba da da da da da)
NoLIta Fairytale (Ba da da da da da, Ba da da da da da)
NoLIta Fairytale
NoLIta Fairytale
NoLIta Fairytale
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: charmedguy18 on June 10, 2007, 12:15:44 pm
Quote from: "B"
Quote from: "charmedguy18"
People keep pointing out parts of the songs that relate to known events that happened to her in her life. We need to find more.


It is pretty self explanatory, haha. V would do stuff to please the label, the label quit on her, she went on tour with Stevie, found herself, and now is making music about it  :lol:.

But someone said the 'garden' reference was to John Mayor or something.. lol
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: HarmySandwhich on June 10, 2007, 12:27:00 pm
I love how the beginning sounds similar to Half a Week before Winter.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: whitehouses81680 on June 10, 2007, 12:45:18 pm
this is amazing. I'M SPEECHLESSS!!!

nessas back.  8)
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: itsthefiveofus on June 10, 2007, 12:59:24 pm
OMG I LOVE THIS SONG! ITS FREAKING AWESOME OMG OMG OMG OMG I AM GOING CRAZY OVER HERE. JEEZE I GOT AWAY FROM THE FORUM FOR WHAT 3 DAYS AND THAN BAM! OH JEEZE GREATEST DAY IN MY LIFE. I LOVE THIS SONG LOL TAKE AWAY MY RECORD DEAL AND 2 YEARS GREAT SONG MAN! LOVE THE PERCUSSION AND DRUMS AND ALL OF THAT ITS AWESOME OMG
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: KULPDOGG on June 10, 2007, 01:05:41 pm
ooo, I bet she'll sing this when she opens for Stevie!
I hope someone records it... I wanna know how this is going to sound live!
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: itsthefiveofus on June 10, 2007, 01:07:51 pm
Quote from: "blueglove"
I like the middle part to play it too...can we say CLOCKS! lol


OMG thats what I thought when I heard the middle!
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: tylor2000 on June 10, 2007, 01:16:26 pm
That is pretty crazy!  I feel as if she's taken music and used it as if it was watercolors in parts.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Martin. on June 10, 2007, 01:17:29 pm
Quote from: "itsthefiveofus"
Quote from: "blueglove"
I like the middle part to play it too...can we say CLOCKS! lol


OMG thats what I thought when I heard the middle!


Me too. It was a nice little suprise, as I love "Clocks" :D
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: VaderDawsn on June 10, 2007, 01:30:18 pm
Thanks for sharing! How did this leak? Maybe this will cause the single to be released sooner? I really like the piano and the bridge like part. I can't wait to hear live recording and this song on the radio.. This sounds like it'll be a great driving song:-) Any word on if a music video is being made for it... I can imagine a great "dramatization".
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: ManuelD on June 10, 2007, 01:49:43 pm
Quote from: "VaderDawsn"
Thanks for sharing! How did this leak? Maybe this will cause the single to be released sooner? I really like the piano and the bridge like part. I can't wait to hear live recording and this song on the radio.. This sounds like it'll be a great driving song:-) Any word on if a music video is being made for it... I can imagine a great "dramatization".


I LOVE the bridge.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: rainforestspirit on June 10, 2007, 02:15:59 pm
Quote from: "tylor2000"
That is pretty crazy!  I feel as if she's taken music and used it as if it was watercolors in parts.


Awesome way to put it! I totally agree, it flows just like a watercolor to music.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: me and my piano---tim on June 10, 2007, 02:28:45 pm
Wow this song is incredible... it's different, but it's so vanessa. I'm instantly in love with it. I can't believe I'm freaking out this much!!
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Simply Ordinary on June 10, 2007, 02:43:07 pm
Quote from: "HarmySandwhich"
I'm hosting it on Youtube now but Youtube is being slow.


My video is up, with an exciting slideshow.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: HarmySandwhich on June 10, 2007, 02:44:47 pm
Quote from: "Simply Ordinary"
Quote from: "HarmySandwhich"
I'm hosting it on Youtube now but Youtube is being slow.


My video is up, with an exciting slideshow.


Arghhhhh

You were the one who beat me. lawl. I uploaded the video about 4 hours ago and it's still processing ffs.  :cry:
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: angelheart56 on June 10, 2007, 03:43:19 pm
well, it's been a long time since I have posted, but I still check the board everyday. I just wanted to say the song is amazing and I absolutely love it. Hopefully this will attract new fans and go to the top, which i think it could.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: itsthefiveofus on June 10, 2007, 04:06:07 pm
Quote from: "VaderDawsn"
Thanks for sharing! How did this leak? Maybe this will cause the single to be released sooner? I really like the piano and the bridge like part. I can't wait to hear live recording and this song on the radio.. This sounds like it'll be a great driving song:-) Any word on if a music video is being made for it... I can imagine a great "dramatization".


Oh I hope that they play it on the radio sooner than July 12 or whenever its supposed to come out on the radio. Just to hear her on the radio again will be just freaking awesome = ]
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Manny on June 10, 2007, 04:13:04 pm
V is back!!!!  8)  8)  8)  8)  8)  8)  8)  8)  8)  8)  8)  8)  8)  8)

The bridge is awesome!
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Mountaineer on June 10, 2007, 06:08:29 pm
Man! Its been a while!!!! V is so back!! I love the bridge!
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: PutYourHandsOnMe101 on June 10, 2007, 06:12:55 pm
I like this song and it has a catchy melody. Very risky but in a cool way. I think and hope it will be a hit and I can't wait to see V in a new music video!!! :blob:
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Joel on June 10, 2007, 06:26:29 pm
Hey guys,

It's been a long time since I last posted anything, and since then, I've become addicted to Vanessa.

Anyway, I got a hold of an MP3 or the song, if you guys want it. And here's what I know... not sure if this info's been posted already. But Wikipedia's reported that the album's due for release on October 9, 2007.

Hopefully, there's a special edition of the album with a bonus DVD or something along those lines!! I can't wait!
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: markita on June 10, 2007, 07:05:02 pm
I really love this song, and I'm not really a vanessa fan but becoming one, I like this song
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: rainforestspirit on June 10, 2007, 07:05:37 pm
Quote from: "Joel"
Hey guys,

It's been a long time since I last posted anything, and since then, I've become addicted to Vanessa.

Anyway, I got a hold of an MP3 or the song, if you guys want it. And here's what I know... not sure if this info's been posted already. But Wikipedia's reported that the album's due for release on October 9, 2007.

Hopefully, there's a special edition of the album with a bonus DVD or something along those lines!! I can't wait!


Thanks Joel but Bran88 actually hooked us up last night. Where did you happen to find it? He found it here....
source: http://bizzom.com/top-stories/834/kanye-wests-bittersweet

http://www.zshare.net/audio/22101503a9bcee

Just wondering if it has leaked elsewheres....
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: iKnowWhatYouDid on June 10, 2007, 07:14:30 pm
i still don't feel very strongly about this song, but i must admit it was stuck in my head all day after listening to it a couple times this morning.. i guess that's good  :) .
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: VaderDawsn on June 10, 2007, 07:16:59 pm
Look at the reactions... maybe we should start asking radio stations about now... :D
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: feishien on June 10, 2007, 10:22:37 pm
Oh my god, why am I so behind?!

Gah! I'm so excited Nolita Fairytale leaked! It's been on repeat since I got it :D

*squee*
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Dora on June 11, 2007, 05:38:07 am
I'm still not crazy about it but I think it will grow on me eventually :p
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: lavender skies on June 11, 2007, 06:34:13 am
I'm curious to find out why this song is the first single and not one of the others.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Martin. on June 11, 2007, 07:15:54 am
I'm interested to know who produced it. Was it Stephen, does anyone know? Some people are saying it's Irv who produced it....
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: HarmySandwhich on June 11, 2007, 07:21:52 am
Quote from: "white_houses"
I'm interested to know who produced it. Was it Stephen, does anyone know? Some people are saying it's Irv who produced it....


Both Stephen and IRV
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: blueglove on June 11, 2007, 09:56:15 am
Quote from: "HarmySandwhich"
Quote from: "white_houses"
I'm interested to know who produced it. Was it Stephen, does anyone know? Some people are saying it's Irv who produced it....


Both Stephen and IRV


I think stephen produced the begining, but it sounded like it is all irv now.. they may have scrapped a lot of the old stuff... MAYBE, just speculation
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: HarmySandwhich on June 11, 2007, 10:00:04 am
Quote from: "blueglove"
Quote from: "HarmySandwhich"
Quote from: "white_houses"
I'm interested to know who produced it. Was it Stephen, does anyone know? Some people are saying it's Irv who produced it....


Both Stephen and IRV


I think stephen produced the begining, but it sounded like it is all irv now.. they may have scrapped a lot of the old stuff... MAYBE, just speculation


Yeah - might have been. When did Stephen and Nessa split up? Do you think that would have had an effect on the production of the album? Are they still friends?

/gossip freak. Seriously, i'm quite curious.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: itsthefiveofus on June 11, 2007, 10:08:09 am
Wait....I am confused...Vanessa and Stephan (spelled wrong mabey..) broke up or just like producing wise?
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: HarmySandwhich on June 11, 2007, 10:15:51 am
Quote from: "itsthefiveofus"
Wait....I am confused...Vanessa and Stephan (spelled wrong mabey..) broke up or just like producing wise?


They broke up a while ago, apparently and since the album is still in the making I was just deliberating whether that would have had an effect on the production of the album at all.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Imaginary Ocean on June 11, 2007, 11:00:09 am
I LOVE the song. Can't wait to have the single and then the album. It's a very catchy song but I hope (and I'm sure) that we'll have some slow songs on the album !
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: whitehouses81680 on June 11, 2007, 11:20:56 am
the drum part sounds like the drum part from Jumper, the 3eb song
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: rosieposy87 on June 11, 2007, 12:41:29 pm
AHHHH this is BRILLIANT! When I heard the first clip I SO wasn't keen on it- but the full production of it is perfect and really unconventional (at the same time as being perfect for radio).

Lets hope it actually gets somewhere!!
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: ordinaryday6 on June 11, 2007, 01:42:01 pm
to tell the truth, as much as i wish the song would grow on me everytime i listen, the opposite seems to be happening..
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: initially_yours on June 11, 2007, 03:42:15 pm
Quote from: "ordinaryday6"
to tell the truth, as much as i wish the song would grow on me everytime i listen, the opposite seems to be happening..


I think I know what you mean.   I want to like this song, i really do, but I listened to the full thing and it just... didnt jive.  I can understand what shes saying but some of the words seem like theyre placed awkwardly in the song, and it comes off as somewhat amateur, which I KNOW Vanessa isnt.  I can see why she wanted to release this song as a single, but shes done wayyyy better, in my opinion.  

Also, my keyboard is acting weird and different keys are typing weird things... like the apostrophe key is typing èèèè  and the backslash key is éééé  .  This is probably the wrong place to ask, but... what the hell is wrongÉÉÉ (question mark key right there)
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Martin. on June 11, 2007, 03:51:55 pm
Quote from: "HarmySandwhich"
Quote from: "itsthefiveofus"
Wait....I am confused...Vanessa and Stephan (spelled wrong mabey..) broke up or just like producing wise?


They broke up a while ago, apparently and since the album is still in the making I was just deliberating whether that would have had an effect on the production of the album at all.


Nah, they broke up after the album was finished. Even if she wanted to take his shit off there, she couldn't have. It's too late. I'm sure they're still friends though. ;)

And thanks - so it was Stephen and Irv that did it? Cool.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Pyro on June 11, 2007, 04:01:59 pm
Hi, everyone! It's so great to have a new Vanessa song! I like it. I was a little surprised how personal and factual it was because not everyone's going to be familiar with what the lyrics mean. I'm really hoping this single does well for V, though. I'm a little disappointed that we didn't get her new album in the Spring like we originally thought, but we Nessaholics are patient. I can certainly wait a few more months. I'm still so excited, though! I love her so much! I always have!
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: HarmySandwhich on June 11, 2007, 04:06:51 pm
Quote from: "Pyro"
Hi, everyone! It's so great to have a new Vanessa song! I like it. I was a little surprised how personal and factual it was because not everyone's going to be familiar with what the lyrics mean. I'm really hoping this single does well for V, though. I'm a little disappointed that we didn't get her new album in the Spring like we originally thought, but we Nessaholics are patient. I can certainly wait a few more months. I'm still so excited, though! I love her so much! I always have!


(http://vil.nai.com/images/owl_smaller.jpg)

 :lol:

I'm not sure about that statement but I know for sure we'll all wait, no matter how long, until it comes out.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: me and my piano---tim on June 11, 2007, 04:08:31 pm
My guess is that vanessa will do a lot of radio promotion. that way the DJs can ask her about the lyrics from the song.. about stevie, about the record label. Then she can play the song and people will understand.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: PianoPlayer12 on June 11, 2007, 06:12:21 pm
Quote from: "initially_yours"
Also, my keyboard is acting weird and different keys are typing weird things... like the apostrophe key is typing èèèè  and the backslash key is éééé  .  This is probably the wrong place to ask, but... what the hell is wrongÉÉÉ (question mark key right there)


My keyboard does that too...its pissing me off...
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Jophess on June 11, 2007, 07:14:20 pm
go to your language bar. you probably have it in french or spanish or something. is there a little thing at the bottom right of your screen with a blue box that says FR or something that is not EN? Change it.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: remixx on June 11, 2007, 10:19:08 pm
this might be my favorite vanessa song ever.... i love the bridge



can someone give me the background about the whole "take my record deal away" thing? and stevie nicks?? what does she have to do with this besides being a tour mate?
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: zurielshimon on June 11, 2007, 11:30:19 pm
I like this.  I really like this.  The sound is pretty, and the lyrics are personal, but I think it could actually lead some people who don't know her that well to dig in and try to find out what the hell she's referring to and uncover the story.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Jessica on June 11, 2007, 11:36:18 pm
i'm really trying to like it.
but i just don't.

its like it came from a children's cd or something.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: tylor2000 on June 12, 2007, 12:35:50 am
Quote from: "Jessica"
i'm really trying to like it.
but i just don't.

its like it came from a children's cd or something.


Is there a such thing as an adult fairytale?  I think most fairytales are in children's books.  A fairytale is a type of story.  Even though we all know of some right off the top of our heads, most the time we have already have heard of them when we were kids, perhaps in a small book our parents read to us from a small book at bedtime.  Maybe the song is depicting that through  a format we can all relate to.  Vanessa's idea of a musical children's book, or a G rated fairytale movie about her life and what she has learned from the events of her life.  If you have been following her you could imagine how that might be seen as a sort of fairytale.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: MeganJane on June 12, 2007, 12:42:13 am
Quote from: "Jessica"
i'm really trying to like it.
but i just don't.

its like it came from a children's cd or something.


 :lol:  That's so funny  :lol:
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: jsbachsonata on June 12, 2007, 01:36:32 am
I think this song has a more mature AC sound especially with the instrumentation... "White Houses" on the other hand really sounds like it comes from a children's cd (yea, nessa does have a tendency to write songs that might be too "kiddy")

 I think everything's ok when Vanessa finds that balance between a more rock oriented sound and a female singer songwriter tone. I think production, instrumentation, and rhythmic complexity in vanessa's line  play a big part and I think NOlita covers those areas successfully to reach a more mature audienc.

When i first heard white houses, pyhom, and those linda perry songs they sounded like they came from a children's cd. The harmonic content is too bright.  Coupled with rhythmic simplicity in most of these songs, they tend to drift to the "children's realm". I am sincerely hoping they are not on her newest album.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Rainy night on June 12, 2007, 03:38:07 am
A lot of people seem to don't really like V new song  :cry:

I think Nolita Fairytale is her way to show people she's still here and able to evoluate as an artist, try new sounds, talk about her experiences... I actually feel this song as the big new start for V. She's definately back!!
I love Nolita Fairytale, I think it's a beautiful song... Makes me think of a sunny summer day...  :razz:
And the bridge  :heart:  that's my favourite part!!
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Martin. on June 12, 2007, 03:53:57 am
Quote from: "Rainy night"
A lot of people seem to don't really like V new song  :cry:


From what I've seen, it's the other way around for me ;)
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Rainy night on June 12, 2007, 04:14:25 am
From people around me I only get negative feedback on Nolita Fairytale... I just wish I could spread more 'Nolita fairytale' love around me... And reading some of the posts on the board made me more sad...  :cry:  

Quote from: "white_houses"
From what I've seen, it's the other way around for me ;)

That's so great if people around you like Nolita Fairytale (I want people to love Nolita Fairytale so V's come back is gonna be huge  :heart: )!!!
You actually gave me hope back white_houses  :D
Thanks!!!  :wink:
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: HarmySandwhich on June 12, 2007, 04:28:14 am
Quote from: "Rainy night"
From people around me I only get negative feedback on Nolita Fairytale... I just wish I could spread more 'Nolita fairytale' love around me... And reading some of the posts on the board made me more sad...  :cry:  

Quote from: "white_houses"
From what I've seen, it's the other way around for me ;)

That's so great if people around you like Nolita Fairytale (I want people to love Nolita Fairytale so V's come back is gonna be huge  :heart: )!!!
You actually gave me hope back white_houses  :D
Thanks!!!  :wink:


I agree with White Houses. On Nessaholics, all I'm seeing around is positive feedback with only a couple of people admitting to not liking it and maybe a few speculative comments about it not being the right first single as its too person. Asides that, it's almost all positive. I know me and a few Nessasholics hate the part where Nessa says, "Hey" as it reminds us of Avril Lavigne and her, "HEY HEY I DON'T WANNA BE YOUR GIIIIIIRLFWEND!", which we all dispise.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: itsthefiveofus on June 12, 2007, 06:57:48 am
Quote from: "HarmySandwhich"
Quote from: "Rainy night"
From people around me I only get negative feedback on Nolita Fairytale... I just wish I could spread more 'Nolita fairytale' love around me... And reading some of the posts on the board made me more sad...  :cry:  

Quote from: "white_houses"
From what I've seen, it's the other way around for me ;)

That's so great if people around you like Nolita Fairytale (I want people to love Nolita Fairytale so V's come back is gonna be huge  :heart: )!!!
You actually gave me hope back white_houses  :D
Thanks!!!  :wink:


I agree with White Houses. On Nessaholics, all I'm seeing around is positive feedback with only a couple of people admitting to not liking it and maybe a few speculative comments about it not being the right first single as its too person. Asides that, it's almost all positive. I know me and a few Nessasholics hate the part where Nessa says, "Hey" as it reminds us of Avril Lavigne and her, "HEY HEY I DON'T WANNA BE YOUR GIIIIIIRLFWEND!", which we all dispise.


I scond that hey part thats the one song I quickly thought of when I heard of but hey she has to apeal to those people who like that music somehow.Not saying they are bad but still.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: amberbeads on June 12, 2007, 07:14:26 am
i've determined it's mediocre at best.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Ghisy on June 12, 2007, 08:41:30 am
Quote from: "HarmySandwhich"
I know me and a few Nessasholics hate the part where Nessa says, "Hey" as it reminds us of Avril Lavigne and her, "HEY HEY I DON'T WANNA BE YOUR GIIIIIIRLFWEND!", which we all dispise.

Well, "hey" is a word so it doesn't necessarily sound like Avril saying hey. That's kind of a silly comment in my opinion.
Plus there are people here who like Avril's song and new cd and I'm one of them so we don't "all despise" it.
To me, NF doesn't sound "kiddy", it's a pop song about fairytales. Like jsbachsonata said, it sounds more mature than WH.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: HarmySandwhich on June 12, 2007, 12:05:29 pm
Quote from: "Ghisy"
Quote from: "HarmySandwhich"
I know me and a few Nessasholics hate the part where Nessa says, "Hey" as it reminds us of Avril Lavigne and her, "HEY HEY I DON'T WANNA BE YOUR GIIIIIIRLFWEND!", which we all dispise.

Well, "hey" is a word so it doesn't necessarily sound like Avril saying hey. That's kind of a silly comment in my opinion.
Plus there are people here who like Avril's song and new cd and I'm one of them so we don't "all despise" it.
To me, NF doesn't sound "kiddy", it's a pop song about fairytales. Like jsbachsonata said, it sounds more mature than WH.


When I said "we", I was referring to the select few who didn't like it (should really have made that clearer). I didn't say it sounded like Avril, I said it reminded me of her and I made it clear I didn't really like her. Of course, anyone is free to say, "HEY" but i'm just one of those who think the song would be better off without it.
However, I must agree with your last comment.
Title: Nolita Fairytale
Post by: UltimateVC on June 12, 2007, 01:02:27 pm
I actually really like Nolita Fairytale. The only "childish" songs of Vanessa were on her demo tape especially "faces" and "wonder." The only song that i don't really like by vanessa is... from her old stuff: faces, last fall, and from her new stuff: heroes and thieves. I don't know why but those songs just never got to me. Unfortunately, Nolita Fairytale sounds like something someone would sing when they're pissed off. Like changing the lyrics to a real song and putting in your lyrics of why you're mad.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Manda on June 12, 2007, 01:11:20 pm
I just wanted to say that Nolita Fairytale is a VERY good song, it has her own lyrics about all the things she's been through over the past. Yes its a change, but a good one. Even if it doesn't do well, its not a big deal. She's an amazing artist remember? She will never stop playing for us and so MANY people came out to see her live at her shows when Harmonium came out. I felt like a sardine in a can. I'm hoping for the best and I'm sure things will go well, but if they don't, thats alright. Her music will inspire us all and its not the sale or recognition that is important here. She is important to us and we know that.

As for Avril, I really like Avril Lavigne and "The Best Damn Thing" was different and very catchy. It was a new side and there are some good songs on the album: Innocence, When You're Gone, Keep Holding On. Everyone has a different opinion and you can't please anyone.

Still hoping for the best! I bet the shows are going to be paaaacked too!
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Extraordinary Machine on June 12, 2007, 02:18:44 pm
Well, I think it's really breezy and fresh, the perfect summer pop record - I just wish it had been released a little earlier! I still think "White Houses" is better though :)
Quote from: "remixx"
can someone give me the background about the whole "take my record deal away" thing? and stevie nicks?? what does she have to do with this besides being a tour mate?

I think it's to do with Stevie taking Vanessa under her wing in a way, and introducing her to a new audience after A&M dropped her.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: reveng_desire on June 12, 2007, 02:48:00 pm
lol again with the whole 'hey'

where does she say hey that i don't hear it? or maybe I just hear a very 'ey' version of ohhhhhhhhhhhh

lol sorry
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: ThomasEj on June 12, 2007, 03:11:34 pm
uyeah

I was sceptical when I heard the short clip...but now I really like it. it's light, pleasant and catchy and ... :D just fine song :D
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: tylor2000 on June 12, 2007, 05:25:44 pm
I think people are just getting used to it.  it is just very different.  When it starts rotating on the radio people will warm up to it after a few times/days if they don't immediately like it right off the bat.  Besides we have another single set up just in case this one doesn't take off that will do very well.  I think this one will be in the top twenty pretty quickly.  I already have it on rotation on my computer(I don't have a portable player(e.g. ipod.)  I listen to at least 4+ hours of music a day despite that.  I spend alot of time at home so it is not unlike me to listen to 8+ hours of music on a weekday after coming home from work.  That is alot of music for someone who doesn't own an ipod or similar device.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: MeganJane on June 12, 2007, 05:53:00 pm
Quote from: "HarmySandwhich"
Quote from: "Ghisy"
Quote from: "HarmySandwhich"
I know me and a few Nessasholics hate the part where Nessa says, "Hey" as it reminds us of Avril Lavigne and her, "HEY HEY I DON'T WANNA BE YOUR GIIIIIIRLFWEND!", which we all dispise.

Well, "hey" is a word so it doesn't necessarily sound like Avril saying hey. That's kind of a silly comment in my opinion.
Plus there are people here who like Avril's song and new cd and I'm one of them so we don't "all despise" it.
To me, NF doesn't sound "kiddy", it's a pop song about fairytales. Like jsbachsonata said, it sounds more mature than WH.


When I said "we", I was referring to the select few who didn't like it (should really have made that clearer). I didn't say it sounded like Avril, I said it reminded me of her and I made it clear I didn't really like her. Of course, anyone is free to say, "HEY" but i'm just one of those who think the song would be better off without it.
However, I must agree with your last comment.


I think the "hey!" sounds awkward. "Girlfriend" isn't the only song of Avril's with a "hey!" in it. The "hey!" kinda reminds me of Avril too because it seems like something that is Avril's style (and I do like some Avril songs; I don't despise her, even though I don't like "Girlfriend") and not Vanessa's. Avril has/had that punk-y pop thing, which a "hey" fits into, but with Vanessa it sounds misplaced... so I don't think it is a "silly comment". I agree that the song would be better without it.

I love so many of Vanessa's song but I'm not obligated to like this one just because it's new.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: ManuelD on June 12, 2007, 07:00:46 pm
Is just a "Hey!" is not like the song or the album are full of them. And I think it sounds cute.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: blueglove on June 12, 2007, 07:18:41 pm
Quote from: "Jessica"
i'm really trying to like it.
but i just don't.

its like it came from a children's cd or something.


that is exataly what I thought!
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: portions.for.foxes on June 12, 2007, 09:52:25 pm
I think all the hoopla in regards to the little "Hey!" at the end of the song is pretty moronic. Avril Lavigne doesn't have a copyright to the word hey or the usage of it in songs. GOD FORBID VANESSA USES IT. Get over yourselves, seriously.

And comparing Nolita Fairytale to a childrens song is a pretty bad analogy, if some of you guys are going to express your distaste for the song I'm sure you can manage better than that. lol :P

And I've heard of nothing but positive feedback in regards to the song from people I know, and the majority of my friends dislike Vanessa, but have taken to this song. So I think it's an awesome choice for a lead single.

You guys need to remember that she's releasing this song to reach out to people who aren't already fans of hers and reconnect with those who haven't been keeping up with her, so if it's not your cup of tea, hey, you're already a fan. This is Vanessa's comeback, she's not catering to us Nessaholics at the moment at all. It's not about what we want, as much as we'd like it to be.  :lol:

Edit -

So, um... is ATR going to attempt to do a new project based on Nolita Fairytale? Like the Building White Houses project? Just curious. Now's the time to brain storm. With the help of places like MySpace and Facebook we could easily reach a lot of people this time around.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: tylor2000 on June 12, 2007, 10:20:48 pm
This is a total long shot, but was this song inspired partially by Haydn's Symphony No. 58 in F major, Hob.I:58 - III. Menuet alla zoppa: Un poco allegretto?

Just figured I'd drop that for the hell of it.  Dismissal is expected.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: portions.for.foxes on June 12, 2007, 10:26:04 pm
Quote from: "tylor2000"
This is a total long shot, but was this song inspired partially by Haydn's Symphony No. 58 in F major, Hob.I:58 - III. Menuet alla zoppa: Un poco allegretto?

Just figured I'd drop that for the hell of it.  Dismissal is expected.


Possibly, I'm not familiar with the song you mentioned, but Vanessa once described her writing method and says she finds phrases in classical music that she really likes and then embelishes on them and molds them into her own little pieces of work.

I do the same thing too sometimes, I'll hear a phrase or a bar in some piece that I really like and I'll steal it and change it and flip it around until it takes a life of its own and becomes a full fledged song.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: zurielshimon on June 13, 2007, 02:30:57 am
Quote from: "tylor2000"
This is a total long shot, but was this song inspired partially by Haydn's Symphony No. 58 in F major, Hob.I:58 - III. Menuet alla zoppa: Un poco allegretto?

Just figured I'd drop that for the hell of it.  Dismissal is expected.


It might help if you were to send me an MP3 of the piece in question. :D
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Imaginary Ocean on June 13, 2007, 06:13:38 am
I LOVE the song more and more everytime that I listen to it.

And I hate it when a few people here who are supposed to be Vanessa's fans say that her songs are childish....
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: marxu on June 13, 2007, 07:01:35 am
Quote from: "Imaginary Ocean"

And I hate it when a few people here who are supposed to be Vanessa's fans say that her songs are childish....

aww, too bad! And I hate it when some people can't accept the fact that people have different opinions..

Anyway..I like this song, but it's not my favourite song of hers.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: itsthefiveofus on June 13, 2007, 07:26:35 am
mmhmm same here most of my friends minus like 2 never realyl liked Vanessa but when I play Nolita Fairytale for them they like go all gaga over it and they love it so thats a great thing. I love the song as well I go running and thats the first song I play.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: ordinaryday6 on June 13, 2007, 08:40:07 am
Quote from: "Imaginary Ocean"
I LOVE the song more and more everytime that I listen to it.

And I hate it when a few people here who are supposed to be Vanessa's fans say that her songs are childish....


it's really sad when some people can't disagree with what an artist does, for the good or bad. have your own opinion. the rest of us do. not everything vanessa does is perfect. that's great if you like the song, but fans are allowed to dissent. it's bullshit when you pull out the "well if you were a real fan, you would like this." it's ridiculous. go listen to the song and mind your own business.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Pyro on June 13, 2007, 09:12:30 am
I like the song and I like the "Hey!" When she says it, I picture her in NoLIta saying hi to a neighbor. It's friendly and fits the song.

I think I can understand where the "childish" comments come from, because her chords and rhythms are often pretty simplistic and harmonically bright, but I think Nessa deliberately puts some of her music to wistful, light music for juxtaposition. I often find her lyrics to be very mature. And even if this song is not very complex, I still enjoy the pleasant, "fairytale" feel.

Quote from: "HarmySandwhich"
Quote from: "Pyro"
I'm a little disappointed that we didn't get her new album in the Spring like we originally thought, but we Nessaholics are patient. I can certainly wait a few more months.


 :lol:

I'm not sure about that statement but I know for sure we'll all wait, no matter how long, until it comes out.
Lol, maybe I should instead say that patience is a virtue for Nessaholics. Individually, we have it in varying degrees, but I think the fact that we stick around and are so dedicated to V even through the long periods between her album releases shows some sort of patience. :)
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: NoelleNC on June 13, 2007, 11:08:19 am
Meh. I'm at work and I can't hear the music that well. I can hear the piano riff and her voice the clearest. Umm, honestly, I dont' like it and if it grows on me it will only be out of it's catchiness. Her voice is starting to annoy me. I wish she would soften it out sometimes and try to sound a little bit more polished and grown up. I like the raw childlike sound sometimes, but she is almost 27 and sounds 14 still. I just wanna go in there and soften the vocals out and ask her to hold a few notes out, just for a couple more seconds. Idk.... not my favorite =\ Who knows what I will think after a few more listens though.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Imaginary Ocean on June 13, 2007, 12:08:28 pm
Quote from: "ordinaryday6"
Quote from: "Imaginary Ocean"
I LOVE the song more and more everytime that I listen to it.

And I hate it when a few people here who are supposed to be Vanessa's fans say that her songs are childish....


it's really sad when some people can't disagree with what an artist does, for the good or bad. have your own opinion. the rest of us do. not everything vanessa does is perfect. that's great if you like the song, but fans are allowed to dissent. it's bullshit when you pull out the "well if you were a real fan, you would like this." it's ridiculous. go listen to the song and mind your own business.


I'm okay when someone says that he/she THINKS that a song is childish/bad or whatever.. but who are you to say that this song is BAD.. you can give your opinion that's great but not judge as you were the only one.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: reveng_desire on June 13, 2007, 06:03:52 pm
Oh, man. I think Vanessa Carlton is starting World War III with this new single. XD
Title: ...
Post by: mellsbells12 on June 13, 2007, 07:55:13 pm
i'm obsessed.

thats all i have to say..i've listened to it for days now without saying anything and its like all her other songs for me..i can just keep listening without any need to stop.


i think its a great way of expressing herself and its a REALLY great sound overall..i can hear it on certain stations around me, no doubt.

soooo excited for july 17th<3
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Dancernl on June 13, 2007, 08:58:08 pm
I like it.  Does it blow me out of my Crocs?  no.  Does it suck?  Absolutely not.  the bridge = gold.  My favorite part of the song.  I like Heroes and Thieves better, IMHO.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Logikal X on June 14, 2007, 05:26:39 am
Well i like it, and i like heroes and thieves.   This is cool because i really didnt like harmonium/white houses  =(  :oops:
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Imaginary Ocean on June 14, 2007, 05:31:54 am
The bridge is absolutely beautiful  :)
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: itsthefiveofus on June 14, 2007, 06:24:14 am
it toatally is.MY favorite part! the song is awesome but thats the one part that stands you in my mind.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Rainy night on June 14, 2007, 07:24:35 am
Quote from: "itsthefiveofus"
it toatally is.MY favorite part! the song is awesome but thats the one part that stands you in my mind.


:thumbsup:  Hooooo yeah!!! It's my fave part too!!! <3
Haaaaa Nolita fairytale  :wink:
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: CelestialHorse on June 14, 2007, 07:52:20 am
I think I will fall in love with this song, I really like it :D
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: NoelleNC on June 14, 2007, 08:26:13 am
The bridge is pretty, but it does remind me of Clocks by Coldplay. And when she goes falsetto there (can you ascribe that to a female? haha) I find it a bit nasal or something. I also wonder why she randomly says, "Hey". Maybe it's just a popular trend, haha.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: lavender skies on June 14, 2007, 12:13:52 pm
Can someone explain to me what

"So are truth wait patiently"

means? I guess it's the grammar, but I don't understand what she means.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: PutYourHandsOnMe101 on June 14, 2007, 12:16:23 pm
Quote from: "devil in the dark"
Can someone explain to me what

"So are truth wait patiently"

means? I guess it's the grammar, but I don't understand what she means.


It's actually more like...

We sow our truth/ wait patiently
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: NoelleNC on June 14, 2007, 12:25:07 pm
This won't be a very fun song to cover tbh. It'll be weird to hear Vanessa fans singing along about losing a record deal and hanging out with Stevie =P
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: CtVampSlayer on June 14, 2007, 02:46:34 pm
I really hate the song.  It makes me sad, I wanted her to re-emerge with a really great single, but Nolita Fairytale is...not.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: blueglove on June 14, 2007, 03:24:47 pm
This is what I think

Bridge = Clocks...... Because the first section before she moves is a P4 down from the clocks bridge...  
(G# - G - E [clocks])  VS...(D# - D - A# [n.f.])
Then it moves to D# - D - G , 2 times then D# - D - F
BASS is just E then lower C then lower A#

anyways

I personaly dont like this song. I have played it for a lot of people they are all like the drums are going too crazy. It sounds like it is trying to mix too much together.. and I for one am no the biggest fan of it... I am of Vanessa so I think I will just go and support her and what she does...  I don't think this will make it high on a chart...
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: lavender skies on June 14, 2007, 03:33:36 pm
Quote from: "PutYourHandsOnMe101"
Quote from: "devil in the dark"
Can someone explain to me what

"So are truth wait patiently"

means? I guess it's the grammar, but I don't understand what she means.


It's actually more like...

We sow our truth/ wait patiently



ohh that explains it. thanks!
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: whitehouses81680 on June 14, 2007, 04:53:24 pm
the drums are a tad excessive, i agree.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: tylor2000 on June 14, 2007, 05:25:36 pm
I'm gaining more respect for this song the more I listen to it.  Way to go Carlton!  I think once it gets on the radio it's going to do really well (And past all your fans, aka, music critics.)  :wink: lol

I like the drums in this song, especially at the beginning and end because it is not just your regular boring everyday use of them. It gives the song it's own character.  Drum rolls are cool.  Even though drums are used like usual through the song, they are given a break and actually keep the rhythm of the song at places where it's useful.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Steveau on June 14, 2007, 05:27:17 pm
Quote from: "blueglove"
This is what I think

Bridge = Clocks...... Because the first section before she moves is a P4 down from the clocks bridge...  
(G# - G - E [clocks])  VS...(D# - D - A# [n.f.])
Then it moves to D# - D - G , 2 times then D# - D - F
BASS is just E then lower C then lower A#

anyways

I personaly dont like this song. I have played it for a lot of people they are all like the drums are going too crazy. It sounds like it is trying to mix too much together.. and I for one am no the biggest fan of it... I am of Vanessa so I think I will just go and support her and what she does...  I don't think this will make it high on a chart...

I totally agree
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: LimeTwister on June 14, 2007, 08:04:56 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgJWJTVCla4

don't know if anyone posted that, but i liked it...

and if someone already posted it, oh well.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Steveau on June 14, 2007, 08:37:07 pm
After hearing the whole thing I changed my opinion a little. There are parts of it I like but others that bother me. I still don't like the bass part.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Dancernl on June 14, 2007, 09:23:27 pm
I've been listening to it more and more over the past day and played it for some friends who had either never heard of Vanessa or only knew ATM, and the reaction was 100% positive.  I can still see both sides of the argument that while it's a good song it might not be a commercial success.  But, having been a fan for so long I respect Vanessa more for staying true to herself than pandering to the mainstream audience of MTV, etc.  I'm just excited to hear new music, period.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Angelcorrine on June 14, 2007, 10:53:52 pm
I love the drums.  I think the drums pull in a different type of listener than Vanessa's core audience.  But, there's still the bridge which is very "typical Vanessa."  The juxtaposition of the two is pretty fantastic.  We can never predict what popular radio will love, but I think this stands a very good chance of being a hit.  I'll be waiting with bated breath for the release...

 :D
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: jsbachsonata on June 14, 2007, 11:54:06 pm
I like the drum work (just the drum set part not the synthesized reggae beat part). I think it's very sophisticated but still not on par with the drum work on ATM. A lot of people don't notice this, but the drum work on ATM is very complex almost like it has a different line that complements the movement of the song. I think the drums in ATM were definitely what really turned me on to the song... that perfect marriage of percussion and melody. To this day, I still think the drummer on ATM is the PERFECT example of a great pop rock percussionist who knows how to move a song forward. Still haven't found any song to match up with it.

The drums on nolita on the other hand is nothing special but I would say it does fulfill its function satisfactorally in the song. It's pleasant but not impressive, which is good because it doesn't need to be impressive to make the song great.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: tylor2000 on June 15, 2007, 12:00:33 am
Quote from: "LimeTwister"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgJWJTVCla4

don't know if anyone posted that, but i liked it...

and if someone already posted it, oh well.


That is a really great video, except that is not Nolita!  It's San Francisco.  I should know I walk past that pointy building almost everyday.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: reveng_desire on June 15, 2007, 11:01:18 am
I love the drum mix but I'm kind of feeling errrr over the whole "Well, Stevie knows and I thnak her so" part. It's just...bah. The record deal part is fine, but when she mentions Stevie, I just go...okay....

But I love the song and hopefully it does very well. Way to go, Carlton!!
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: VaderDawsn on June 15, 2007, 04:09:44 pm
The more I hear this song, the more I enjoy it.  I think this song will do well on radio. The hard part is getting it played on the radio.
Different strokes for different folks!
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: rainforestspirit on June 15, 2007, 05:19:04 pm
Quote from: "LimeTwister"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgJWJTVCla4

don't know if anyone posted that, but i liked it...

and if someone already posted it, oh well.


Thanks for posting!! I LOVE it! The photography is incredible - it fits the song so well! It's too bad that they are apparently from San Fran instead of Nolita but they still get the message across. If you haven't seen it, you should take a look.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: rainforestspirit on June 15, 2007, 05:29:24 pm
I just thought this was interesting...

What murder inc fans think of V's NF. Sorry if it has already been posted.


http://www.murderinc-online.com/usforum/t29422-061107-listen-to-vs-new-single-quotnolita-fairytalequot.html
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: portions.for.foxes on June 15, 2007, 06:26:08 pm
Quote from: "rainforestspirit"
I just thought this was interesting...

What murder inc fans think of V's NF. Sorry if it has already been posted.


http://www.murderinc-online.com/usforum/t29422-061107-listen-to-vs-new-single-quotnolita-fairytalequot.html


At least the Murder Inc people seem to be more responsive than us over here as a whole. Haha.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: LimeTwister on June 15, 2007, 06:29:43 pm
I love the reaction...especially from the people whose AVs are all gangsta...

it's awesome.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: LimeTwister on June 15, 2007, 06:32:37 pm
Quote from: "tylor2000"
Quote from: "LimeTwister"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgJWJTVCla4

don't know if anyone posted that, but i liked it...

and if someone already posted it, oh well.


That is a really great video, except that is not Nolita!  It's San Francisco.  I should know I walk past that pointy building almost everyday.


Yeah, they might not even know what Nolita is...?

I don't know, hahaha...it's still a nice vid.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: rainforestspirit on June 15, 2007, 06:33:16 pm
Quote from: "LimeTwister"
I love the reaction...especially from the people whose AVs are all gangsta...

it's awesome.


Yeah, that's why I decided to post it. I must say I was sitting here cracking up!  :roflmao:

....but of course in a good way - I'm really glad they like it and aren't blasting Irv for signing V.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: portions.for.foxes on June 15, 2007, 06:38:34 pm
Quote from: "rainforestspirit"
Quote from: "LimeTwister"
I love the reaction...especially from the people whose AVs are all gangsta...

it's awesome.


Yeah, that's why I decided to post it. I must say I was sitting here cracking up!  :roflmao:

....but of course in a good way - I'm really glad they like it and aren't blasting Irv for signing V.


You'd really be surprised as to how open minded people can be that you wouldn't necessarily expect to be. Unlike others who won't be mentioned. lol
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: tylor2000 on June 15, 2007, 07:03:30 pm
Quote from: "LimeTwister"
Quote from: "tylor2000"
Quote from: "LimeTwister"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgJWJTVCla4

don't know if anyone posted that, but i liked it...

and if someone already posted it, oh well.


That is a really great video, except that is not Nolita!  It's San Francisco.  I should know I walk past that pointy building almost everyday.


Yeah, they might not even know what Nolita is...?

I don't know, hahaha...it's still a nice vid.


It really is.  I think all of the VC videos from the person include SF.  Of course she might have lived north of little italy here, while on the west coast, but I have no idea.

I had no idea what it was untill it was mentioned in reference to her.  I've never been to nyc.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: zurielshimon on June 16, 2007, 12:27:31 am
Quote from: "tylor2000"
It really is.  I think all of the VC videos from the person include SF.  Of course she might have lived north of little italy here, while on the west coast, but I have no idea.

I had no idea what it was untill it was mentioned in reference to her.  I've never been to nyc.


I had heard of it, and I knew what it stood for.  Watching CSI: NY and L&O: SVU, I just got curious about where all these places were and what the names meant, so I just got to reading about it all one day.  I would love to visit NYC, but I feel it would take at least a month for me to just get to know a little about Manhattan.
Title: Sheet Music
Post by: UltimateVC on June 16, 2007, 07:56:22 am
Has anybody started making sheet music for Nolita Fairytale? That would be great!
Title: Re: Sheet Music
Post by: PianoPlayer12 on June 16, 2007, 10:33:25 am
Quote from: "UltimateVC"
Has anybody started making sheet music for Nolita Fairytale? That would be great!


Ya i cant wait till someone transcribes it!! :D
Title: Re: Sheet Music
Post by: NolitaFairytale on June 16, 2007, 12:44:08 pm
Quote from: "PianoPlayer12"
Quote from: "UltimateVC"
Has anybody started making sheet music for Nolita Fairytale? That would be great!


Ya i cant wait till someone transcribes it!! :D


I second that! :D
Title: "disappointed" doesn't even cover it
Post by: thenextvanessa on June 16, 2007, 02:57:40 pm
yes, i'll admit, i've been out of the loop for some months now.  i had been an active member of the vc.com forums, but i kind of fazed out of that when things got dramatic over there.  anyway, i've tried a few times to get some Vinfo, and so i've known that the vc.com site is down?  why?  

anyway, today i decided to once and for all figure out what ever happened to vanessa.  nessaholics, ahoy!  imagine my surprise when i discovered that we have an album release date, a single release date, and can, in fact, listen to this new single?!

so i heard "nolita fairytale."  oh.  my.  god.  i've been stomping around my house in HORROR.  i'm sorry.  in my opinion, it's a trainwreck.  i feel like i'm "not speaking" with my former IDOL.  the poppy tone, the not-even-trying-to-be-deep lyrics, the computerized voice - i was shocked.  shocked and hugely disappointed.  in my eyes, she became the world's biggest hypocrite right there: the song is all about "so what i got dropped from interscope i'm cool with it" (but honestly, it outright SAYS that...what happened to the unicorns and vampires?!)...and yet the style suggests that she is outright selling out.  

what happened to the raw beauty of harmonium?!  if i weren't in love with the song "heroes and thieves," i would have lost interest in this new album entirely.

i don't want to say that vanessa has lost me as a fan.  but, clearly, i will not deny that i am currently lost for words, and not in a good way.

i am not some random spammer, i know how annoying those people are.  i know i don't have too many nessaholic posts to my name, but a few of you will remember me from the old boards (hey, guys, sorry to meet again under these circumstances).  i swear, i am a vanessa FAN.  but i do not condone the idea that being a fan means accepting everything the artist does - i believe that we have every right to give our honest opinions of v's work, most of which i am in love with.

that was a long rant.  sorry, guys.  i hate to be a downer.  but please, i cannot possibly be the only person that feels this way.  i know it's sort of old news, so i'm also sorry if this is redundant to the boards.

--rachel
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: itsthefiveofus on June 16, 2007, 03:08:29 pm
I know what you mean we don't have to like everything an artist that me likes comes out with. But I mean I think you went to far with the selling out....... I dont think she sold out but than again thats just me...what do you's think?!?!
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: charmedguy18 on June 16, 2007, 03:30:54 pm
Quote from: "itsthefiveofus"
I know what you mean we don't have to like everything an artist that me likes comes out with. But I mean I think you went to far with the selling out....... I dont think she sold out but than again thats just me...what do you's think?!?!

I like the song all right, but it's not AMAZING or anything. I think the lyrics got simpler and more straightforward. There's some metaphore and such, but it really isn't as deep in emotional value, if you know what I mean, as the other songs were.
I'll admit I like the part that I have quoted in my signature though haha.
Title: Re: "disappointed" doesn't even cover it
Post by: reveng_desire on June 16, 2007, 04:00:33 pm
Quote from: "thenextvanessa"


  the poppy tone, the not-even-trying-to-be-deep lyrics, the computerized voice - i was shocked.  shocked and hugely disappointed.  in my eyes, she became the world's biggest hypocrite right there: the song is all about "so what i got dropped from interscope i'm cool with it" (but honestly, it outright SAYS that...what happened to the unicorns and vampires?




Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. Although I personally love Nolita Fairytale, I can understand one's basic dissapointment with it. However, I must say the whole "not-even-trying-to-be-deep lyrics" part of your message didn't agree with me. As an artist, Vanessa decided to express herself how she feels the need to. Maybe she chose not to make it all metaphoric because, well, she was describing a situation close to her? Besides, we've heard tons  of new music that will be on the album that have deep, awesome lyrics. "Hands On Me," anyone?

I'm sure Vanessa's decisions are based on what, in her opinion, is best for her new album.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: ordinaryday6 on June 16, 2007, 04:05:20 pm
i don't really care much for it, but i don't think she's selling out. i don't think you can sell out with one song.. even if that song is the single. all the other songs we've heard off the album are such that i can't possibly say she's sold out; unless none of those songs actually go on the album, which we know is completely ridiculous.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: rainforestspirit on June 16, 2007, 04:31:07 pm
First off, I definitely think that everyone has a right to voice their opinion, even if it is not positive towards V.

However, I respectfully disagree. I really enjoy the new song (see my new sig!) I especially love the lyrics. I actually think they are the opposite to selling out! She sings "my heart always seems to know" "take the gliz back, I want the soul instead". Yes, they may be simple but they say that she is NOT selling out! If she was selling out, she would take the gliz that came with her record deal and instead sacrifice her soul and heart. In this song, she is saying that she is being true to herself and not going with the record company that wants to turn her into something that she is not.

And the lyrics "Take away my record deal. Go on, I don't need it" Does not mean that she is fine and dandy with her old record company being a jerk to her. It is her way of saying f*** you! You can take away my record deal, I will find someone else who wants to work with me - the real me - someone who will allow me to be true to my music. (however she is saying this in a kinder way so that she doesn't create massive problems within the music industry and her music gets banded again)

And she has done just that.

Now, the music is kinda strange to me - such as the drums, especially the reggeaton in the beginning and end...and a few other things. And I must admit is not my favorite song of hers. But I still like it - most importantly for the message.

Plus, I agree with others above in that her other new songs like The One, Hands on Me, etc are very reminiscent of her old songs. So, that also shows that she has not sold out.

Again, you have the right to your own opinion but that means so do I. I love how we have kept this as a good discussion and I am hoping we all can keep it this way (you all know what I mean here).
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: ManuelD on June 16, 2007, 06:27:44 pm
I actually love the drums, they are not reggeaton at all, they sound more like a martial band to me.

I would like the song much better if the lyrics were different, they just make it imposible for anyone (other than Vanessa herself) to relate to the song. Other than that I like the song.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: amberbeads on June 16, 2007, 07:23:20 pm
Quote from: "charmedguy18"
I'll admit I like the part that I have quoted in my signature though haha.


yeah but thank God she needs to start with the name-dropping.. is she a rapper or something?
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: MeganJane on June 16, 2007, 08:56:58 pm
I'm glad to hear I'm not the only one who is disappointed with this song...!
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: portions.for.foxes on June 16, 2007, 09:43:10 pm
Was a new thread really necessary? This should be merged with the already existing Nolita Fairytale thread. We don't need a seperate thread for whining.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: PianoPlayer12 on June 16, 2007, 10:41:13 pm
Quote from: "portions.for.foxes"
Was a new thread really necessary? This should be merged with the already existing Nolita Fairytale thread. We don't need a seperate thread for whining.

exactly.
Ya i really dont think she is selling out considering the other five songs that we have heard that might possibly be on the album have stayed with her original sound.
I personally love this song.
The only thing i think is a little weird is how there is not chorus..
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: tylor2000 on June 16, 2007, 11:12:04 pm
Quote from: "PianoPlayer12"
Quote from: "portions.for.foxes"
Was a new thread really necessary? This should be merged with the already existing Nolita Fairytale thread. We don't need a seperate thread for whining.

exactly.
Ya i really dont think she is selling out considering the other five songs that we have heard that might possibly be on the album have stayed with her original sound.
I personally love this song.
The only thing i think is a little weird is how there is not chorus..


I was thinking the same thing.  Why not post this in the other thread?  There are going to be people who will not like this song because it is different.  Let's not freak out.  The album will be here in October.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: B on June 16, 2007, 11:52:44 pm
This does belong in the Nolita Fairytale thread. Will be merged shortly. :)
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Martin. on June 17, 2007, 01:34:34 am
:)
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: davidjp on June 17, 2007, 01:39:29 am
I'm just grateful that there will be new material playing on radio soon
Title: well, that's just the thing
Post by: thenextvanessa on June 17, 2007, 08:17:47 am
okay, i was a bit hasty.  or, i didn't fully explain myself.  i know that we've heard some great stuff from the new album, i'm just somewhat annoyed that "nolita fairytale" has been chosen as the single - because i think it's a terrible representation of what vanessa is...and it's the song that's going to be getting all of the publicity.  that's what i meant by selling out - she's advertising her album with something more mainstream than any of the rest of her music.  okay, possible exception for ATM.

*sigh* i missed you guys :-)  i'm back now.
Title: Re: well, that's just the thing
Post by: PianoPlayer12 on June 17, 2007, 10:09:38 am
Quote from: "thenextvanessa"
okay, i was a bit hasty.  or, i didn't fully explain myself.  i know that we've heard some great stuff from the new album, i'm just somewhat annoyed that "nolita fairytale" has been chosen as the single - because i think it's a terrible representation of what vanessa is...and it's the song that's going to be getting all of the publicity.  that's what i meant by selling out - she's advertising her album with something more mainstream than any of the rest of her music.  okay, possible exception for ATM.

*sigh* i missed you guys :-)  i'm back now.


But the ting is...if she doesnt advertise the album with a first single thats more mainstream then the album most likely wont do well.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: reveng_desire on June 17, 2007, 10:34:35 am
Does anyone know when ARTWORK is due? I'm eggscited!! lol
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Martin. on June 17, 2007, 10:57:24 am
Vanessa Carlton is a business woman too. She knows what works and what doesn't.

I'm interested in seeing the "Nolita Fairytale" video. Should be interesting.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: reveng_desire on June 17, 2007, 12:46:50 pm
Quote from: "white_houses"


I'm interested in seeing the "Nolita Fairytale" video. Should be interesting.


I bet it's gonna be preeeeeeeetty.  *taps Vanessa's shoulder* AND NO DANCING! I liked White Houses but you can do much more with 'Nolita!'
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: tylor2000 on June 17, 2007, 02:27:15 pm
Quote from: "reveng_desire"
Quote from: "white_houses"


I'm interested in seeing the "Nolita Fairytale" video. Should be interesting.


I bet it's gonna be preeeeeeeetty.  *taps Vanessa's shoulder* AND NO DANCING! I liked White Houses but you can do much more with 'Nolita!'


I actually really liked the dancing she did in the video for White Houses.  It was really cool to see her dancing like that.  Let's see what she comes up with this time.  :)
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Emmyspiano on June 17, 2007, 04:31:21 pm
i LOVED the dancing WH! it was like nothing else on mtv
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: HarmySandwhich on June 17, 2007, 04:33:44 pm
Quote from: "Emmyspiano"
i LOVED the dancing WH! it was like nothing else on mtv


My thoughts exactly. I have a video already pre-conceived in my mind with Nessa dancing down a waterfall/stream, surounded by fairies, signing.
Title: Re: well, that's just the thing
Post by: ManuelD on June 17, 2007, 04:36:07 pm
Quote from: "thenextvanessa"
okay, i was a bit hasty.  or, i didn't fully explain myself.  i know that we've heard some great stuff from the new album, i'm just somewhat annoyed that "nolita fairytale" has been chosen as the single - because i think it's a terrible representation of what vanessa is...and it's the song that's going to be getting all of the publicity.  that's what i meant by selling out - she's advertising her album with something more mainstream than any of the rest of her music.  okay, possible exception for ATM.

*sigh* i missed you guys :-)  i'm back now.


She did that with Be Not Nobody and Harmonium too. The only two mainstream songs in BNN are "A Thousand Miles" and "Ordinary Day" (first and second single) and "White Houses" is one of the most mainstream songs in Harmonium.

Of the new songs the only one that I like more than "Nolita" is "Heroes and Thieves", I just melt every time that I listen to it, I can't wait to hear the studio version.

I also think "Nolita" can do well on radio, I doubt it will be as big as ATM but if it is big enough to put Vanessa back in the map I will be happy.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Gingernut on June 17, 2007, 11:45:28 pm
Quote from: "HarmySandwhich"
Quote from: "Emmyspiano"
i LOVED the dancing WH! it was like nothing else on mtv


My thoughts exactly. I have a video already pre-conceived in my mind with Nessa dancing down a waterfall/stream, surounded by fairies, signing.


I always thought Vanessas music was a bit too mature for fairies. I'm thinking of her actually walking down a street, but my imagination sucks :)
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: HarmySandwhich on June 18, 2007, 04:06:45 am
Quote from: "Gingernut"
Quote from: "HarmySandwhich"
Quote from: "Emmyspiano"
i LOVED the dancing WH! it was like nothing else on mtv


My thoughts exactly. I have a video already pre-conceived in my mind with Nessa dancing down a waterfall/stream, surounded by fairies, signing.


I always thought Vanessas music was a bit too mature for fairies. I'm thinking of her actually walking down a street, but my imagination sucks :)


You're right, your imagination sucks. :lol:. Lemme try enlighten it:

I'd always imagined, Nessa would be wearing something like this (http://www.mcm.net/dbimages/2006/artiste/vanessacarlton_240x180.jpg) in the video. She'll be dancing around this (http://www.thai-tour.com/thai-tour/Northeast/Loei/images/phusansai-npk/large-pic/tad-hueng-waterfall.jpg), surrounded with these (http://cameodesigns.com/original_creations/Fairies-6assortbig.jpg), with maybe a little of mist (http://www.capetownskies.com/0354/16_waterfall_slvmn_btmc.jpg)
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Gingernut on June 18, 2007, 04:24:23 am
Yeah I guess you're right. But where does Peter Pan come into this?
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: HarmySandwhich on June 18, 2007, 04:25:49 am
Quote from: "Gingernut"
Yeah I guess you're right. But where does Peter Pan come into this?


That was Peter Pan?  :oops:  

I've never seen Peter Pan. Alright - perhaps this? (http://www.imaginismstudios.com/images/port/fairy-fairies-sketch-art.jpg)
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Gingernut on June 18, 2007, 04:27:57 am
Quote from: "HarmySandwhich"
Quote from: "Gingernut"
Yeah I guess you're right. But where does Peter Pan come into this?


That was Peter Pan?  :oops:  

I've never seen Peter Pan. Alright - perhaps this? (http://www.imaginismstudios.com/images/port/fairy-fairies-sketch-art.jpg)


It wasn't Peter Pan, it was a joke. I just see this song as a sort of coming of age thing with V. I think she's matured in her songwriting and in herself, so fairies would kinda contradict the song IMHO.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: HarmySandwhich on June 18, 2007, 05:02:48 am
Quote from: "Gingernut"
Quote from: "HarmySandwhich"
Quote from: "Gingernut"
Yeah I guess you're right. But where does Peter Pan come into this?


That was Peter Pan?  :oops:  

I've never seen Peter Pan. Alright - perhaps this? (http://www.imaginismstudios.com/images/port/fairy-fairies-sketch-art.jpg)


It wasn't Peter Pan, it was a joke. I just see this song as a sort of coming of age thing with V. I think she's matured in her songwriting and in herself, so fairies would kinda contradict the song IMHO.


 :cry:
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Star7 on June 18, 2007, 06:24:10 am
Quote from: "Gingernut"
Quote from: "HarmySandwhich"
Quote from: "Emmyspiano"
i LOVED the dancing WH! it was like nothing else on mtv


My thoughts exactly. I have a video already pre-conceived in my mind with Nessa dancing down a waterfall/stream, surounded by fairies, signing.


I always thought Vanessas music was a bit too mature for fairies. I'm thinking of her actually walking down a street, but my imagination sucks :)


i was thinking of her walking down the street too :oops:
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Gingernut on June 18, 2007, 07:04:56 am
Quote from: "Star7"
Quote from: "Gingernut"
Quote from: "HarmySandwhich"
Quote from: "Emmyspiano"
i LOVED the dancing WH! it was like nothing else on mtv


My thoughts exactly. I have a video already pre-conceived in my mind with Nessa dancing down a waterfall/stream, surounded by fairies, signing.


I always thought Vanessas music was a bit too mature for fairies. I'm thinking of her actually walking down a street, but my imagination sucks :)


i was thinking of her walking down the street too :oops:


Oh good :D I'm not the only one
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: reveng_desire on June 18, 2007, 07:08:03 am
Quote from: "tylor2000"
Quote from: "reveng_desire"
Quote from: "white_houses"


I'm interested in seeing the "Nolita Fairytale" video. Should be interesting.


I bet it's gonna be preeeeeeeetty.  *taps Vanessa's shoulder* AND NO DANCING! I liked White Houses but you can do much more with 'Nolita!'


I actually really liked the dancing she did in the video for White Houses.  It was really cool to see her dancing like that.  Let's see what she comes up with this time.  :)


Definately! I love the dancing in White Houses. However, I'm sure there's a lot to do with Nolita Fairytale besides dancing. Just an opinion lol  :oops:
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: NoelleNC on June 18, 2007, 07:36:01 am
I don't think Nolita Fairytale is one of Vanessa's "mature" songs. I actually think some of her most mature songs have been unreleased. I still think Swindler is her best song to date, and Morning Sting is pretty mature as well. Nolita Fairytale is very much like a page out of her diary and I thought she said she was through writing about herself a few years ago. Or was that someone else? I forget. Anyhow, I like her more abstract music more. I like Heroes and Thieves and Nolita Fairytale is, meh, ok, but I hope there aren't even more songs on the album about her music industry struggle. There was already This Time before all those, and My Best might be in the same topic area, too. That might be a little bit of overkill. I know they aren't all exactly the same, but they do have a similar sentiment.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: tylor2000 on June 18, 2007, 08:36:04 am
She could always cast a few fairies from Greenwich Village.  :wink:  (No duck tape this time though.)
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: thenextvanessa on June 18, 2007, 09:31:47 am
oh, right, i guess this WOULD warrant a video...........

oh, jesus.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: ILoveHanson on June 18, 2007, 10:06:11 am
i've had this song on repeat since yesterday, and i can't seem to keep from tearing up every time i play it. i love it. i'm so proud of her and proud to be a fan of her. i can't wait to hear what it sounds like with just her and the piano. i hope she plays it on the stevie tour! i can see it now... she sings the line about stevie and the crowd roars... for our nessa! *tear* god, i love this woman.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: charmedguy18 on June 18, 2007, 11:15:36 am
Quote from: "thenextvanessa"
oh, right, i guess this WOULD warrant a video...........

oh, jesus.

OMG my thoughts EXACTLY as I was fighting insomnia last night!
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Martin. on June 18, 2007, 12:45:10 pm
Oh hell. If I see Vanessa flying around in tights sprinkling fairy dust then I'll be pissed.

She wont do any videos like that anyway, thank GOD.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: HarmySandwhich on June 18, 2007, 01:10:04 pm
So no one liked my idea then  :lol:
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: ManuelD on June 18, 2007, 02:53:44 pm
Quote from: "HarmySandwhich"
Quote from: "Gingernut"
Quote from: "HarmySandwhich"
Quote from: "Emmyspiano"
i LOVED the dancing WH! it was like nothing else on mtv


My thoughts exactly. I have a video already pre-conceived in my mind with Nessa dancing down a waterfall/stream, surounded by fairies, signing.


I always thought Vanessas music was a bit too mature for fairies. I'm thinking of her actually walking down a street, but my imagination sucks :)


You're right, your imagination sucks. :lol:. Lemme try enlighten it:

I'd always imagined, Nessa would be wearing something like this (http://www.mcm.net/dbimages/2006/artiste/vanessacarlton_240x180.jpg) in the video. She'll be dancing around this (http://www.thai-tour.com/thai-tour/Northeast/Loei/images/phusansai-npk/large-pic/tad-hueng-waterfall.jpg), surrounded with these (http://cameodesigns.com/original_creations/Fairies-6assortbig.jpg), with maybe a little of mist (http://www.capetownskies.com/0354/16_waterfall_slvmn_btmc.jpg)


It's not a Disney movie.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: HarmySandwhich on June 18, 2007, 02:56:41 pm
Quote from: "ManuelD"
Quote from: "HarmySandwhich"
Quote from: "Gingernut"
Quote from: "HarmySandwhich"
Quote from: "Emmyspiano"
i LOVED the dancing WH! it was like nothing else on mtv


My thoughts exactly. I have a video already pre-conceived in my mind with Nessa dancing down a waterfall/stream, surounded by fairies, signing.


I always thought Vanessas music was a bit too mature for fairies. I'm thinking of her actually walking down a street, but my imagination sucks :)


You're right, your imagination sucks. :lol:. Lemme try enlighten it:

I'd always imagined, Nessa would be wearing something like this (http://www.mcm.net/dbimages/2006/artiste/vanessacarlton_240x180.jpg) in the video. She'll be dancing around this (http://www.thai-tour.com/thai-tour/Northeast/Loei/images/phusansai-npk/large-pic/tad-hueng-waterfall.jpg), surrounded with these (http://cameodesigns.com/original_creations/Fairies-6assortbig.jpg), with maybe a little of mist (http://www.capetownskies.com/0354/16_waterfall_slvmn_btmc.jpg)


It's not a Disney movie.


Oh come on. It's called an imagination. Whenever I listen to Nolita Fairytale I always think of that setting (above).
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Gingernut on June 18, 2007, 03:24:08 pm
Quote from: "HarmySandwhich"
Quote from: "ManuelD"
Quote from: "HarmySandwhich"
Quote from: "Gingernut"
Quote from: "HarmySandwhich"
Quote from: "Emmyspiano"
i LOVED the dancing WH! it was like nothing else on mtv


My thoughts exactly. I have a video already pre-conceived in my mind with Nessa dancing down a waterfall/stream, surounded by fairies, signing.


I always thought Vanessas music was a bit too mature for fairies. I'm thinking of her actually walking down a street, but my imagination sucks :)


You're right, your imagination sucks. :lol:. Lemme try enlighten it:

I'd always imagined, Nessa would be wearing something like this (http://www.mcm.net/dbimages/2006/artiste/vanessacarlton_240x180.jpg) in the video. She'll be dancing around this (http://www.thai-tour.com/thai-tour/Northeast/Loei/images/phusansai-npk/large-pic/tad-hueng-waterfall.jpg), surrounded with these (http://cameodesigns.com/original_creations/Fairies-6assortbig.jpg), with maybe a little of mist (http://www.capetownskies.com/0354/16_waterfall_slvmn_btmc.jpg)


It's not a Disney movie.


Oh come on. It's called an imagination. Whenever I listen to Nolita Fairytale I always think of that setting (above).


It doesn't take much imagination to tell where you get your ideas from. The clues in the name.
Title: Re: well, that's just the thing
Post by: itsthefiveofus on June 18, 2007, 03:45:05 pm
Quote from: "thenextvanessa"
okay, i was a bit hasty.  or, i didn't fully explain myself.  i know that we've heard some great stuff from the new album, i'm just somewhat annoyed that "nolita fairytale" has been chosen as the single - because i think it's a terrible representation of what vanessa is...and it's the song that's going to be getting all of the publicity.  that's what i meant by selling out - she's advertising her album with something more mainstream than any of the rest of her music.  okay, possible exception for ATM.

*sigh* i missed you guys :-)  i'm back now.


well I mean she has to do that in a way or she wont get played on the radio thats the bad thing about today....if its not like how it is than you wont get played. its not completley horrible jeeze
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: portions.for.foxes on June 18, 2007, 09:15:02 pm
I really hope she finds an awesome music video director for Nolita Fairytale. I was really disapointed with how Sophie Muller handled the video for White Houses, and Sophie Muller has directed a lot of really awesome videos, but when I watched White Houses I was kind of like, "Wtf."

Does anyone else feel the same way?

I think Marc Webb would be the perfect choice for Nolita Fairytale.

You can see a list of of his videography if you care here -

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marc_Webb
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Martin. on June 19, 2007, 02:01:15 am
Oh no, I loved "White Houses" :D
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Emmyspiano on June 19, 2007, 06:13:44 am
i think WH was her best video, it really showed off v and i think she really put heart into it. and i really DONT want to see her in a video looking plastic like everyone else
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: NoelleNC on June 19, 2007, 06:20:40 am
She should be walking around Nolita, wherever that is in NY. Imo she should put her dog in the video hehe. That'd be cool, but it might be boring if that's all she did. Maybe she can walk around different cities and boardwalks (near the ocean in one shot) but begin and end in Nolita, denoting that is her home or something. Idk. I thought she was all about San Francisco ;)

It'd be fun to direct videos or at least come up with the story board!
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: craft on June 19, 2007, 02:37:22 pm
Quote from: "portions.for.foxes"
I really hope she finds an awesome music video director for Nolita Fairytale. I was really disapointed with how Sophie Muller handled the video for White Houses, and Sophie Muller has directed a lot of really awesome videos, but when I watched White Houses I was kind of like, "Wtf."

Does anyone else feel the same way?

I think Marc Webb would be the perfect choice for Nolita Fairytale.

You can see a list of of his videography if you care here -

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marc_Webb


I disagree. As a future filmmaker, I can honestly say the WH video was great. Sophie did a great job. The only part I didn't like was at the end where Vanessa looked like she messed up a move and fell. The part where Vanessa looks at her dancing self and then gets up and dancing Nessa lies on the piano is just pre magic. :D
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: MeganJane on June 19, 2007, 04:53:22 pm
Quote from: "Emmyspiano"
i think WH was her best video, it really showed off v and i think she really put heart into it. and i really DONT want to see her in a video looking plastic like everyone else


I agree. I think it was brilliant. Original and memorable.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: portions.for.foxes on June 19, 2007, 10:17:51 pm
Even when I watch it now I'm trying to appreciate it for all the things you guys have said and I still just think it's really boring. lol
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: me and my piano---tim on June 19, 2007, 11:35:36 pm
What I love about the WH vid is vanessa's facial expressions while she's playing the piano...
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: reveng_desire on June 20, 2007, 09:37:22 am
My favorite part in the White Houses video was the end.

Starting with "I Lied, Wrote My Injuries All in The Dust." The end of the dance is MAGNIFICENT.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Twilight_Angel on June 20, 2007, 11:51:44 am
I just love her dancing in white houses. shes so graceful! Wish i could dance that well  :D
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: PianoPlayer12 on June 20, 2007, 03:28:52 pm
So its still a no on the sheet music?

hahahahaha
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: IfICouldFall on June 20, 2007, 05:25:41 pm
Quote from: "PianoPlayer12"
So its still a no on the sheet music?

hahahahaha

well maybe we can ask phu or maag... since they are our Vanessa Sheet Music gods!  :D
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: PianoPlayer12 on June 20, 2007, 05:57:06 pm
Quote from: "IfICouldFall"
Quote from: "PianoPlayer12"
So its still a no on the sheet music?

hahahahaha

well maybe we can ask phu or maag... since they are our Vanessa Sheet Music gods!  :D


Yes ...that they are :)
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: LadyLavender on June 20, 2007, 06:54:17 pm
hey, check out this new youtube video

it's V playing nolita fairytale live, and and interview with her and irv. it's straight from the inc's yuotube account.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjb8_CHmXBw
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: itsthefiveofus on June 20, 2007, 07:20:50 pm
it looks awesome!!!!!!!!! = ]
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Dancernl on June 20, 2007, 07:37:37 pm
V TV, I love it.  Great clip, I love her studio.  Hope there's more to come!
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: musicnotex on June 20, 2007, 07:50:19 pm
omg that clip totally rocked :D so happy to hear v play it with just the piano! i wonder if theres anyway to get an mp3  file from that one heh...
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: LimeTwister on June 20, 2007, 07:52:25 pm
I love the fact that Irv has put so much time into Vanessa too...he knew lyrics of the songs, etc.  and did the video clip with her.  It's a positive direction, and I like the song live.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Manda on June 20, 2007, 08:02:29 pm
I loved it, I think that would be a great song live. She definitely did a great job singing the whole song just in her apartment with her dog at the foot of her bench. :)

he really is putting a tremendous amount of time, energy, hope, success, and effort into her.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: PianoPlayer12 on June 20, 2007, 08:02:36 pm
WOW! that vid was amazing!!!
it looks like the piano might be a bit hard to learn...lol
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: tylor2000 on June 20, 2007, 08:22:24 pm
Whoot whoot!  Go Carlton!  Time to get excited guys.

Vtv, as real as it gets. :)
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: zurielshimon on June 20, 2007, 08:38:09 pm
Quote from: "musicnotex"
omg that clip totally rocked :D so happy to hear v play it with just the piano! i wonder if theres anyway to get an mp3  file from that one heh...


Theoretically, if you can hear it on your computer speakers, you can get it on MP3. :wink:
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: KULPDOGG on June 20, 2007, 08:44:27 pm
Quote from: "zurielshimon"
Quote from: "musicnotex"
omg that clip totally rocked :D so happy to hear v play it with just the piano! i wonder if theres anyway to get an mp3  file from that one heh...


Theoretically, if you can hear it on your computer speakers, you can get it on MP3. :wink:



i'm on it, give me a minute to upload it...

http://kulpdogg.googlepages.com/VanessaCarlton-NolitaFairytaleLiveIn.mp3

yay!
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: portions.for.foxes on June 20, 2007, 08:54:02 pm
Holy crap. That was pretty awesome. Thanks for the mp3 Kulp.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: KULPDOGG on June 20, 2007, 09:04:16 pm
it's also on my music myspace page if anyone wants it as their profile song...

and I just uploaded it to facebook, too...

 :D
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: portions.for.foxes on June 20, 2007, 09:07:59 pm
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=201486306

Here's a link to a music page for Nolita Fairytale with Vanessa Carlton's name listed as the title of the song and Nolita Fairytale as the artist.

This is just for the nit picky people who don't want Andrew's name listed under the song on their MySpace, haha, no offense Andrew, you're awesome for putting it up on your page too.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: KULPDOGG on June 20, 2007, 09:09:46 pm
Quote from: "portions.for.foxes"
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=201486306

Here's a link to a music page for Nolita Fairytale with Vanessa Carlton's name listed as the title of the song and Nolita Fairytale as the artist.

This is just for the nit picky people who don't want Andrew's name listed under the song on their MySpace, haha, no offense Andrew, you're awesome for putting it up on your page too.


 :wink: but mine has the live version, too :P
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: portions.for.foxes on June 20, 2007, 09:10:37 pm
Quote from: "KULPDOGG"
Quote from: "portions.for.foxes"
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=201486306

Here's a link to a music page for Nolita Fairytale with Vanessa Carlton's name listed as the title of the song and Nolita Fairytale as the artist.

This is just for the nit picky people who don't want Andrew's name listed under the song on their MySpace, haha, no offense Andrew, you're awesome for putting it up on your page too.


 :wink: but mine has the live version, too :P


Psh, Mr. Fancy Pants. :P I wonder when they're going to upload Nolita Fairytale to her official MySpace so we won't have to do stuff like this. Haha.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: zurielshimon on June 20, 2007, 09:12:37 pm
That video was 17.4 MB so it took me a while to get it, but that's cool.  The lyrics are a lot clearer on this, so how close did we get? 8)
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: KULPDOGG on June 20, 2007, 09:23:21 pm
Quote from: "zurielshimon"
That video was 17.4 MB so it took me a while to get it, but that's cool.  The lyrics are a lot clearer on this, so how close did we get? 8)


could you post a link or something so we can download the whole video?

as for the lyrics..

here.. the live version
--------------------------------------------

I know, you know
We don't see
We sow our truths, wait patiently (it's "Truths" in the original version, too...)
I walk the streets with a song in my head
We ebb and we flow so
Got my toes on my pup at the foot of my bed
My heart always seems to know
Take the glitz back, I want the soul instead
'Cause I found some kind of fairytale

I used to
Hover outside my truth
Always worry of what I'd lose
Well take away my record deal
Go on, I don't need this
Spent the last two years getting to what's real
Now I can see so clear
Hope you feel just like I feel
I found some kind of fairytale

Want a garden by the ocean tide
Cause I lose my way searching for stage lights
Well, Stevie knows and I thank her so
'Cause it's your seeds I sow
And now I know

Nolita flat on rent control
Well that's the life I choose
Can't drag me to the fashion show
The poses that I see through
Ruby's in the afternoon

'Cause I found some kind of fairy...tale
Hey!
Nolita fairytale
Nolita fairytale  
Nolita fairytale
Nolita fairytale
Nolita fairytale

-------------------------

edit:
the lyrics look spot-on with the album version.. except a few minor things..
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: tylor2000 on June 20, 2007, 09:28:30 pm
Quote from: "LimeTwister"
I love the fact that Irv has put so much time into Vanessa too...he knew lyrics of the songs, etc.  and did the video clip with her.  It's a positive direction, and I like the song live.


I totally agree. It's pretty darn cool.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: zurielshimon on June 20, 2007, 09:32:46 pm
Quote from: "KULPDOGG"
Quote from: "zurielshimon"
That video was 17.4 MB so it took me a while to get it, but that's cool.  The lyrics are a lot clearer on this, so how close did we get? 8)


could you post a link or something so we can download the whole video?


http://sjc-v147.sjc.youtube.com/get_video?video_id=yjb8_CHmXBw

Right click on that and click "Save As", and then type "Whatever You Want To Call It.flv" for the file name, where Whatever You Want To Call It is whatever you want to call it.  Personally, I called it "Vanessa Carlton - Nolita Fairytale & Interview.flv"

Just make sure to make ".flv" the extension, and download a Flash Video (FLV) player.  I use the FLV player found here (http://applian.com/flvplayer/index_martijn.php).
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: tylor2000 on June 20, 2007, 09:41:04 pm
Wow, you guys are just like, boom, that.  You can just stream it....lol
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: zurielshimon on June 20, 2007, 09:47:28 pm
Quote from: "tylor2000"
Wow, you guys are just like, boom, that.  You can just stream it....lol


I can't stream crap.:razz:   I've only got a 1xRTT connection, so 115 kbps is my top download speed, full stop.  When I get rich, I'll see about getting DSL. 8)
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: tylor2000 on June 20, 2007, 09:58:44 pm
Quote from: "zurielshimon"
Quote from: "tylor2000"
Wow, you guys are just like, boom, that.  You can just stream it....lol


I can't stream crap.:razz:   I've only got a 1xRTT connection, so 115 kbps is my top download speed, full stop.  When I get rich, I'll see about getting DSL. 8)


I should probably go back to dial-up myself because I'm not rich either.  I use to download movies from sites at 56k.  It would take me a few days. :lol:

I should have just signed up with netflixs, but no I had to download 1G one beep at a time.  I mean what is the internet for if you can't transfer the files over it.  :razz:
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: zurielshimon on June 21, 2007, 05:31:48 am
Quote from: "tylor2000"
Quote from: "zurielshimon"
Quote from: "tylor2000"
Wow, you guys are just like, boom, that.  You can just stream it....lol


I can't stream crap.:razz:   I've only got a 1xRTT connection, so 115 kbps is my top download speed, full stop.  When I get rich, I'll see about getting DSL. 8)


I should probably go back to dial-up myself because I'm not rich either.  I use to download movies from sites at 56k.  It would take me a few days. :lol:

I should have just signed up with netflixs, but no I had to download 1G one beep at a time.  I mean what is the internet for if you can't transfer the files over it.  :razz:


Well, if I cry about the 115k, I'll die about the 56k.  I don't think I could ever go back that far, myself.  Very few sites still have "text only" options, and I'd have to leave my computer on and connected all night long to ever get any files!  It's really irritating how most websites nowadays seem to assume everyone has at least a megabit connection.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: PutYourHandsOnMe101 on June 21, 2007, 06:40:55 am
It's nice to get little exclusives like this :D,  and V pulled that performance off pretty well! I think Nolita Fairytale is a better name than just Fairytale too...
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: IfICouldFall on June 21, 2007, 07:02:31 am
Hey! This is so cool! Does it seem like Vanessa is... drugged up, (slightly)
 during the interview? She can't seem to focus or is she just like that?

But this sound really good live!  :D  thanks for finding it.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: HarmySandwhich on June 21, 2007, 07:08:40 am
Quote from: "KULPDOGG"
Quote from: "zurielshimon"
Quote from: "musicnotex"
omg that clip totally rocked :D so happy to hear v play it with just the piano! i wonder if theres anyway to get an mp3  file from that one heh...


Theoretically, if you can hear it on your computer speakers, you can get it on MP3. :wink:



i'm on it, give me a minute to upload it...

http://kulpdogg.googlepages.com/VanessaCarlton-NolitaFairytaleLiveIn.mp3

yay!


Kulp. I fucking love you man.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: charmedguy18 on June 21, 2007, 07:41:26 am
Quote from: "zurielshimon"
Quote from: "tylor2000"
Wow, you guys are just like, boom, that.  You can just stream it....lol


I can't stream crap.:razz:   I've only got a 1xRTT connection, so 115 kbps is my top download speed, full stop.  When I get rich, I'll see about getting DSL. 8)

There's all right speed DSL for like 9.99 a month.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: rosieposy87 on June 21, 2007, 07:46:30 am
Hmmmm not a great live performance in my opinion- if she goes on a promo tour and performs like that I don't think this song will take off. And they couldn't even spell Heroes right!
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: tylor2000 on June 21, 2007, 07:53:36 am
Quote from: "rosieposy87"
Hmmmm not a great live performance in my opinion- if she goes on a promo tour and performs like that I don't think this song will take off. And they couldn't even spell Heroes right!


I don't really know, but maybe they just wanted to make it as real as possible.  Without all the glitz and such.  But that is just a guess.  I think it is really cool.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Martin. on June 21, 2007, 08:15:07 am
piano is nice and vocals aren't too bad either.

i don't think we should be analysing this performance much. i mean, it's just a little thing she did in her apartment.

i imagine they'll be using a band for performances because it's like she's starting out again.

but it's nice hearing it stripped down and that whole raw piano sound.

GO VANESSA!
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: ILoveHanson on June 21, 2007, 08:55:01 am
why is it that i can't listen to/watch any new vanessa shit without bawling my fucking eyes out. i am like a blubbering baby right now... it's ridiculous. she just touches my soul. <3
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: HarmySandwhich on June 21, 2007, 09:02:19 am
New interview?

http://www.murderinc-online.com/eng06/site.php

Or is this old? She is so pissed.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Martin. on June 21, 2007, 09:05:00 am
Quote from: "HarmySandwhich"
New interview?

http://www.murderinc-online.com/eng06/site.php

Or is this old? She is so pissed.


It's being talked about in this topic ;)
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: HarmySandwhich on June 21, 2007, 09:05:53 am
Quote from: "white_houses"
Quote from: "HarmySandwhich"
New interview?

http://www.murderinc-online.com/eng06/site.php

Or is this old? She is so pissed.


It's being talked about in this topic ;)


Sorry. I've been a little off lately on the forums. Anyway - yeah, she had way too much Vodka there.

EDIT: OH! This is where Kulp got that clip from!
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: angelheart56 on June 21, 2007, 09:14:08 am
It's fantabolous! I loved it, got to see a bit of Nolita... Very cool. Her voice seemed a little different though...
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: itsthefiveofus on June 21, 2007, 09:19:32 am
her voice sounded the same to me. Better.Cool. I totally loved this live version.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: ILoveHanson on June 21, 2007, 09:32:37 am
how come the "add" link is not enabled on those myspace pages you guys made? i want it on my page!
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: ordinaryday6 on June 21, 2007, 09:37:03 am
kulp, is the mp3 you posted only 2:58? cuz i only have that much.. do we have the rest of the song? the video is taking me too long to dl..
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: portions.for.foxes on June 21, 2007, 10:19:10 am
Quote from: "ordinaryday6"
kulp, is the mp3 you posted only 2:58? cuz i only have that much.. do we have the rest of the song? the video is taking me too long to dl..


The performance of the song itself is only that long yeah. The mp3 is the correct length of time. The rest of the video is longer because of the interview.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: portions.for.foxes on June 21, 2007, 10:20:05 am
Quote from: "ILoveHanson"
how come the "add" link is not enabled on those myspace pages you guys made? i want it on my page!


You can add them. You just have to be logged in for the add option to become available to you.  :wink:
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: ILoveHanson on June 21, 2007, 10:29:58 am
haha, got it now. thanks!
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: zurielshimon on June 21, 2007, 10:37:13 am
Quote from: "charmedguy18"
Quote from: "zurielshimon"
Quote from: "tylor2000"
Wow, you guys are just like, boom, that.  You can just stream it....lol


I can't stream crap.:razz:   I've only got a 1xRTT connection, so 115 kbps is my top download speed, full stop.  When I get rich, I'll see about getting DSL. 8)

There's all right speed DSL for like 9.99 a month.


Not here.  The company down the street has a monopoly.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Twilight_Angel on June 21, 2007, 11:24:50 am
can you put that live version as a mp3 then?  :?  *is confuzzled*
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: KULPDOGG on June 21, 2007, 11:26:34 am
Quote from: "Twilight_Angel"
can you put that live version as a mp3 then?  :?  *is confuzzled*


http://kulpdogg.googlepages.com/VanessaCarlton-NolitaFairytaleLiveIn.mp3

it was posted like a page back
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Twilight_Angel on June 21, 2007, 11:29:34 am
i meant downloadable? maybe its my computer or something. Its not working for me :S but thanks- i dont know how you get so many songs!
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: KULPDOGG on June 21, 2007, 11:31:38 am
Quote from: "Twilight_Angel"
i meant downloadable? maybe its my computer or something. Its not working for me :S but thanks- i dont know how you get so many songs!


Right-click on the link and select "Save Target As..."
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Twilight_Angel on June 21, 2007, 11:51:05 am
Rachel <3's you.  :lol:  thankyou
*worships*
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Rainy night on June 21, 2007, 12:04:48 pm
Waaaaaww Nessa <3  
Thanks for making the longest day, the 21st of June a beautiful day with that wondeful live version of Nolita fairytale!!! I love the live version soooo much...  <3
I love the video too!! I'm so excited about this... Rhaaaaa  :razz:

Thank you Kulpdogg and zurielshimon for the download link  :wink:  Thnak you so much <3
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: KULPDOGG on June 21, 2007, 12:07:32 pm
Quote from: "Rainy night"
Waaaaaww Nessa <3  
Thanks for making the longest day, the 21st of June a beautiful day with that wondeful live version of Nolita fairytale!!! I love the live version soooo much...  <3
I love the video too!! I'm so excited about this... Rhaaaaa  :razz:

Thank you Kulpdogg and zurielshimon for the download link  :wink:  Thnak you so much <3



holy crap it is the 21st of june,., i totally forgot..

thanks...
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: NolitaFairytale on June 21, 2007, 12:09:04 pm
Oh my this vid is awesome! Thanks for the MP3!! :D.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: IfICouldFall on June 21, 2007, 12:14:50 pm
Quote from: "KULPDOGG"
Quote from: "Rainy night"
Waaaaaww Nessa <3  
Thanks for making the longest day, the 21st of June a beautiful day with that wondeful live version of Nolita fairytale!!! I love the live version soooo much...  <3
I love the video too!! I'm so excited about this... Rhaaaaa  :razz:

Thank you Kulpdogg and zurielshimon for the download link  :wink:  Thnak you so much <3



holy crap it is the 21st of june,., i totally forgot..

thanks...

yeah me too... I forgot about it and now I need to listen to BB.  :D
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: charmedguy18 on June 21, 2007, 12:38:00 pm
Quote from: "zurielshimon"
Quote from: "charmedguy18"
Quote from: "zurielshimon"
Quote from: "tylor2000"
Wow, you guys are just like, boom, that.  You can just stream it....lol


I can't stream crap.:razz:   I've only got a 1xRTT connection, so 115 kbps is my top download speed, full stop.  When I get rich, I'll see about getting DSL. 8)

There's all right speed DSL for like 9.99 a month.


Not here.  The company down the street has a monopoly.

Hm. Do you live in a very rural area? If not, I would put some more research into that.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: NoelleNC on June 21, 2007, 01:37:14 pm
She seems high on something, or yeah, maybe she's just like that. She reminds me of my friend when she's high on her antidepressants and kind of flighty/loopy. It's kinda freaking me out how similar she's acting in the vid to my friend. Hopefully V's got it put together for the new record release. The song sounded better like that, but the piano does seem a bit choppy for just a solo/vocal. I think maybe her voice has gotten a bit deeper or more coarse, but she seems to have more control over it. Pretty cool.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: NoelleNC on June 21, 2007, 01:41:07 pm
I listened to it again and I think if I were V I might draw out some of the piano notes longer, at least at the beginning. The chords seem very short and staccato. She must like that bc I've noticed that about some of her other songs too. She really likes the pedal that cuts off note vibration. I'm dumb and don't know what that pedal is called =P
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: reveng_desire on June 21, 2007, 02:11:05 pm
...she does seem a *little* drunk.

"and like...and...haha vodka...like.."

:-P

edit: Heros? ohhh wait, you've already mentioned this before. Ill shut up.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: ManuelD on June 21, 2007, 02:29:36 pm
I don't really like the song with just the piano, also she sounds tired and a bit drunk like you said.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: itsthefiveofus on June 21, 2007, 02:36:27 pm
eh just prboabley from all the stuff getting ready for the album and stuff I mean its probabley hectic but its probabley a bit easier because irv seems to help out SO much. Plus I think shes just trying really really hard to make a lasting inpression since shes on a new label and all.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: tylor2000 on June 21, 2007, 02:53:45 pm
I think the important thing is she went out and did this type of thing for her fans.  She came out to show us, "Here this is what the songs are about", "Here is where they were made."

I think she is looking around at her inspiration because ultimately that is what the point of the video is. She was sharing.

I've never even been to NYC.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: zurielshimon on June 21, 2007, 03:01:30 pm
Quote from: "charmedguy18"
Quote from: "zurielshimon"
Quote from: "charmedguy18"
Quote from: "zurielshimon"
Quote from: "tylor2000"
Wow, you guys are just like, boom, that.  You can just stream it....lol


I can't stream crap.:razz:   I've only got a 1xRTT connection, so 115 kbps is my top download speed, full stop.  When I get rich, I'll see about getting DSL. 8)

There's all right speed DSL for like 9.99 a month.


Not here.  The company down the street has a monopoly.

Hm. Do you live in a very rural area? If not, I would put some more research into that.


Yes we do, and I've put a lot of research into that.  It's either them, satellite, or dialup.  So I'll settle for my 1xRTT for now. 8)

Quote from: "Rainy night"
Waaaaaww Nessa <3  
Thanks for making the longest day, the 21st of June a beautiful day with that wondeful live version of Nolita fairytale!!! I love the live version soooo much...  <3
I love the video too!! I'm so excited about this... Rhaaaaa  :razz:

Thank you Kulpdogg and zurielshimon for the download link  :wink:  Thnak you so much <3


You're very welcome! :D  However, you remind me that it's June 21st.  That just means that the days get shorter now.  74|-|7 57(_)|= 15 73|-| 5(_)><0|≥2 ./ ./ ./
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: B on June 21, 2007, 05:02:32 pm
Quote from: "LimeTwister"
I love the fact that Irv has put so much time into Vanessa too...he knew lyrics of the songs, etc.  and did the video clip with her.  It's a positive direction, and I like the song live.


I definitely agree. I am also glad Irv lost on naming the song.  :lol:
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: nosticker on June 21, 2007, 05:02:56 pm
Quote from: "tylor2000"
Quote from: "rosieposy87"
Hmmmm not a great live performance in my opinion- if she goes on a promo tour and performs like that I don't think this song will take off. And they couldn't even spell Heroes right!


I don't really know, but maybe they just wanted to make it as real as possible.  Without all the glitz and such.  But that is just a guess.  I think it is really cool.


This song needs the rhythm section to really groove(I'm guessing it's Abe on drums again).  I don't have a problem with the performance apart from that.


Dan/NS
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Simply Ordinary on June 21, 2007, 06:00:30 pm
Quote from: "nosticker"
Quote from: "tylor2000"
Quote from: "rosieposy87"
Hmmmm not a great live performance in my opinion- if she goes on a promo tour and performs like that I don't think this song will take off. And they couldn't even spell Heroes right!


I don't really know, but maybe they just wanted to make it as real as possible.  Without all the glitz and such.  But that is just a guess.  I think it is really cool.


This song needs the rhythm section to really groove(I'm guessing it's Abe on drums again).  I don't have a problem with the performance apart from that.


Dan/NS


Yeah, I've noticed that other songs like A Thousand Miles, Pretty Baby, Ordinary Day, maybe White Houses are more dependent on the band or at least the strings section.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: itsthefiveofus on June 21, 2007, 07:06:30 pm
agree with you's
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: jlmusicchick on June 21, 2007, 07:48:00 pm
Hmmmm I loved it :-P Thanks for sharing! I love the chemistry between Vanessa and Irv, I think they make a great pair, if not an interesting pair.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: jen_spen on June 22, 2007, 04:50:48 am
she reminded me of britney spears in that interview, like the way she talked and the hat and stuff.....i mean this in not a bad way guys! she's just very new york and you can tell she's been through alot in the last couple of years.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Manny on June 22, 2007, 05:43:33 am
a lot of people are bitchin' about the song, because of this and this and this! wich makes me sick!

I think the song is perfect! and Everything Vanessa has done is perfect!
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: NoelleNC on June 22, 2007, 06:16:36 am
Mmm, so who thinks Irv and V are dating now?  :twisted:
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: me and my piano---tim on June 22, 2007, 06:18:46 am
Quote from: "NoelleNC"
Mmm, so who thinks Irv and V are dating now?  :twisted:


*raises hand*

not that it's any of our business  :lol:
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: ordinaryday6 on June 22, 2007, 06:35:37 am
Quote from: "medic0803"
I think the song is perfect! and Everything Vanessa has done is perfect!


and i think you're pathetic.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Martin. on June 22, 2007, 07:56:37 am
lol, just because you're a fan of someone doesn't mean you're obligated to like every single thing that they put out. i'm sure vanessa appreciates people telling her their real opinion on her material rather than the glazed over "omg i love it" opinions.

i personally like the song a lot, but i'm well aware there are others that don't and that's fine. it's their opinion. i'm sure they wont stop supporting vanessa.

oh, and i really don't think vanessa and irv are dating. they just have a really really strong friendship aswell as a business relationship.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: IfICouldFall on June 22, 2007, 08:58:26 am
Quote from: "me and my piano---tim"
Quote from: "NoelleNC"
Mmm, so who thinks Irv and V are dating now?  :twisted:


*raises hand*

not that it's any of our business  :lol:

me thinks it's quite a possibility.  :)
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: reveng_desire on June 22, 2007, 08:59:46 am
Quote from: "Simply Ordinary"
Quote from: "nosticker"
Quote from: "tylor2000"
Quote from: "rosieposy87"
Hmmmm not a great live performance in my opinion- if she goes on a promo tour and performs like that I don't think this song will take off. And they couldn't even spell Heroes right!


I don't really know, but maybe they just wanted to make it as real as possible.  Without all the glitz and such.  But that is just a guess.  I think it is really cool.


This song needs the rhythm section to really groove(I'm guessing it's Abe on drums again).  I don't have a problem with the performance apart from that.


Dan/NS


Yeah, I've noticed that other songs like A Thousand Miles, Pretty Baby, Ordinary Day, maybe White Houses are more dependent on the band or at least the strings section.


Ordinary Day is _beautiful_ with the strings.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: itsthefiveofus on June 22, 2007, 09:02:37 am
nah never see it happening.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: vanessafan18 on June 22, 2007, 09:08:52 am
Yaaaay she's back! I haven't been on the forum for so long and all this happens! Well I loved the 44 second clip, but was a bit disappointed when I heard the whole thing because it sounded so over-produced. The more I have heard it though I love it!! (even though the bridge sounds too much like clocks-still cute though!)

Now I'm just hoping she comes over to the UK again!
xoxo
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: NolitaFairytale on June 22, 2007, 12:07:07 pm
Quote from: "NoelleNC"
Mmm, so who thinks Irv and V are dating now?  :twisted:


And I so thought I was the only one :razz:
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Steveau on June 22, 2007, 12:38:06 pm
Here's the video of just the song: http://download.yousendit.com/4E6C17F84C6E922A
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: NolitaFairytale on June 22, 2007, 12:40:20 pm
Thanks, thanks, thanks!
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: amberbeads on June 22, 2007, 02:03:50 pm
after watching that i've decided this song is just plain bad.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Martin. on June 22, 2007, 03:05:40 pm
Quote from: "amberbeads"
after watching that i've decided this song is just plain bad.


rotfl. damn.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: NolitaFairytale on June 22, 2007, 03:10:13 pm
Um has anyone made the sheet music for it? I am dieing to play, and now with the live performance it is probably easier to hear all the notes and such? :).
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: amberbeads on June 22, 2007, 03:15:23 pm
Quote from: "white_houses"
Quote from: "amberbeads"
after watching that i've decided this song is just plain bad.


rotfl. damn.

sorry. i just think lyrically and melodically it's subpar. Harmonium was incredible. Her stevie nicks name-dropping and "take away my record deal" and blah blah the fashion show, they all just annoy me. and i hate that "HEY!" thing. she's just done so much better. she can write beautiful songs. this is a hilary duff song. or some other little teen queen. not a mature singer-songwriter.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: lavender skies on June 22, 2007, 07:04:38 pm
^Yep. I love this song but it always seems like I'm listening to Hilary Duff during this song.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: MeganJane on June 22, 2007, 07:06:18 pm
Quote from: "amberbeads"
Quote from: "white_houses"
Quote from: "amberbeads"
after watching that i've decided this song is just plain bad.


rotfl. damn.

sorry. i just think lyrically and melodically it's subpar. Harmonium was incredible. Her stevie nicks name-dropping and "take away my record deal" and blah blah the fashion show, they all just annoy me. and i hate that "HEY!" thing. she's just done so much better. she can write beautiful songs. this is a hilary duff song. or some other little teen queen. not a mature singer-songwriter.


I'm inclined to agree. I think the piano version is much better than the album version but having said that, it's still not great in my opinion.

The percussion reminds me of a Tahitian Dance workout DVD I have.  :?
hehe.

I like the message but I think it will be lost on most people. Not many people who hear it on the radio will have a clue what she's singing about. Also, if they do find out what she's singing about, it has nothing to do with them. That's just my opinion though; some people may find they're able to relate to it on some level.

The same message shown from a different angle could be a brilliant song, but for me this isn't.

In my opinion she definitely can do better.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: clamicas on June 22, 2007, 07:23:32 pm
I loved the song with just the piano actually,on the recorded version I loved the percussion! I enjoyed the melody and how personal the lyrics are to her and I loved the fact that her apartment was a bit messy and she doesn't seem to mind,but the editing of that video...was like a cheap high school graduation video with cheap effects and why was it spelled HEROS??? in the video and in the video description :?:  :?: and the "V TV" logo...so cheap! note to irv: increase her budget!!!
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: vanessafan18 on June 23, 2007, 01:05:05 am
Quote from: "charmed_one"
Um has anyone made the sheet music for it? I am dieing to play, and now with the live performance it is probably easier to hear all the notes and such? :).


I think it's in B major, so if you play around with the notes in that scale you should start to hear it :)

xoxo
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: VaderDawsn on June 23, 2007, 07:20:49 am
Wow. where did you find this vid?  I am impressed by VC's improved vocal control.  This version is spectacular.

Edit: I found it on http://www.theincrecords.com/
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: PianoPlayer12 on June 23, 2007, 09:11:06 am
Quote from: "vanessafan18"
Quote from: "charmed_one"
Um has anyone made the sheet music for it? I am dieing to play, and now with the live performance it is probably easier to hear all the notes and such? :).


I think it's in B major, so if you play around with the notes in that scale you should start to hear it :)

xoxo


Ya i cant wait or someone to make sheet music...ya ive ben trying to figure out the key...and i cant find out if its in Eb, E, or B.... :S
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: NolitaFairytale on June 23, 2007, 09:40:10 am
I think it is in B Major too :nod:. Not that I'm any expert though :razz: And thanks for the tip Vanessafan18 :D.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: IfICouldFall on June 23, 2007, 09:47:29 am
Quote from: "charmed_one"
I think it is in B Major too :nod:. Not that I'm any expert though :razz: And thanks for the tip Vanessafan18 :D.

Well, I played around with it and I think it's in Eb major. The first three chords are, if anyone can try it...

right hand: Bb........Ab(2x).......(octave higher) Bb G

left hand: Eb+Bb....F+C (2x)....Eb Bb Eb

It's really confusing, but the ones connected with + are chords they're like the bass.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: PianoPlayer12 on June 23, 2007, 10:14:21 am
Quote from: "IfICouldFall"
Quote from: "charmed_one"
I think it is in B Major too :nod:. Not that I'm any expert though :razz: And thanks for the tip Vanessafan18 :D.

Well, I played around with it and I think it's in Eb major. The first three chords are, if anyone can try it...

right hand: Bb........Ab(2x).......(octave higher) Bb G

left hand: Eb+Bb....F+C (2x)....Eb Bb Eb

It's really confusing, but the ones connected with + are chords they're like the bass.


Ya im like 100% sure its in Eb.....there are two big indicators...
1. The last note she plays is Eb....(this isnt always an accurate way of looking at the key of a song...but it often is right)
2. When she plays that loud octave part of the song where she goes up 5 notes...she plays Ab, Bb, C, D, Eb. That pretty much shows you its in Eb. :)
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: IfICouldFall on June 23, 2007, 10:46:26 am
I sorta figured the song out. I'll try to make a video but I can't figure out the "Well, Stevie knows..." part and all the exact notes towards the end.  It's pretty easy to figure out actually  :) but I'm not sure about the accuracy though.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: PianoPlayer12 on June 23, 2007, 10:54:43 am
Quote from: "IfICouldFall"
I sorta figured the song out. I'll try to make a video but I can't figure out the "Well, Stevie knows..." part and all the exact notes towards the end.  It's pretty easy to figure out actually  :) but I'm not sure about the accuracy though.


awesome...cant wait :D
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Ghisy on June 23, 2007, 12:17:44 pm
I know everyone's entitled to their opinion but I don't quite understand why people are giving VC cr*p about NF.
She's an artist and artists have different sides. NF is Vanessa's fun side, just a light-hearted, summer-ish song and a song that tries to appeal to the general audience.
Of course, most of us (including myself) like Vanessa's "darker side" more, with songs like HAWBTW or HOM but I'm not gonna deny that I also enjoy the more radio friendly songs.
Just my 2 cents and a little rant about all this.  :wink:

Oh and the video was nice, thanks for posting it!!
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: PianoPlayer12 on June 23, 2007, 12:29:29 pm
Quote from: "Ghisy"
I know everyone's entitled to their opinion but I don't quite understand why people are giving VC cr*p about NF.
She's an artist and artists have different sides. NF is Vanessa's fun side, just a light-hearted, summer-ish song and a song that tries to appeal to the general audience.
Of course, most of us (including myself) like Vanessa's "darker side" more, with songs like HAWBTW or HOM but I'm not gonna deny that I also enjoy the more radio friendly songs.
Just my 2 cents and a little rant about all this.  :wink:

Oh and the video was nice, thanks for posting it!!


I agree with you 100%...exept for the fact that i prefer the less dark songs... :)
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: liquidblue244 on June 23, 2007, 12:53:43 pm
I've been gone for like 12 days and I wasn't sure if anyone heard this version of NF. or just the performance video.

http://www.myspace.com/nolitafairytale
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: PianoPlayer12 on June 23, 2007, 01:03:30 pm
Quote from: "liquidblue244"
I've been gone for like 12 days and I wasn't sure if anyone heard this version of NF. or just the performance video.

http://www.myspace.com/nolitafairytale


Ya weve heard that. Thats the actual album version... :)
Title: Gone Gone Gone
Post by: liquidblue244 on June 23, 2007, 01:09:51 pm
okay good. I hate being gone for so long....then you have to read EVERYTHING. it's so over whelming
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: rosieposy87 on June 23, 2007, 01:57:10 pm
Quote from: "Ghisy"
I know everyone's entitled to their opinion but I don't quite understand why people are giving VC cr*p about NF.
She's an artist and artists have different sides. NF is Vanessa's fun side, just a light-hearted, summer-ish song and a song that tries to appeal to the general audience.
Of course, most of us (including myself) like Vanessa's "darker side" more, with songs like HAWBTW or HOM but I'm not gonna deny that I also enjoy the more radio friendly songs.
Just my 2 cents and a little rant about all this.  :wink:


Just as you are entitled to your '2 cents' so is everyone else on this board. Part of being a mature fan is not worshipping everything Vanessa puts out but looking at it with a critical eye. You could say this is doing Vanessa more of a service as a fan than simply blinding accepting everything she releases.

For some of the more musical people on here, this is clearly going to come into their judgement of a song. If people think it is childish, they are more than welcome to critically evaluate the song in this way (or 'give vanessa crap about it' as you so aptly put it).

I can see why you want everyone to love 'both sides' of Vanessa- but the fact is not everyone does. I think more than anything it's because this song appears to be a reversion to a less sophisticated style of writing that people didn't expect from a supposedly more musically mature Vanessa.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Dora on June 23, 2007, 02:01:19 pm
You know what?
I love that song now lol.

and yes honestly I haven't listened to Vanessa's cd's in a long while but her single and all this buzz is getting me back into it.  so yeah, still a fan even if I take breaks and what not.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Ghisy on June 23, 2007, 02:19:00 pm
You're always looking way too much into things.
But whatever Rosie...I'm done arguing with you because you always want to be right.  :roll:
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: VaderDawsn on June 23, 2007, 04:08:43 pm
Quote from: "portions.for.foxes"
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=201486306

Here's a link to a music page for Nolita Fairytale with Vanessa Carlton's name listed as the title of the song and Nolita Fairytale as the artist.

This is just for the nit picky people who don't want Andrew's name listed under the song on their MySpace, haha, no offense Andrew, you're awesome for putting it up on your page too.


For those of us who don't know myspace that well. How do we add this player to our myspace page?
Edit .. nevermind... I found the "Add" option... I don't know where my head was at..
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: itsthefiveofus on June 23, 2007, 04:12:36 pm
Quote from: "VaderDawsn"
Quote from: "portions.for.foxes"
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=201486306

Here's a link to a music page for Nolita Fairytale with Vanessa Carlton's name listed as the title of the song and Nolita Fairytale as the artist.

This is just for the nit picky people who don't want Andrew's name listed under the song on their MySpace, haha, no offense Andrew, you're awesome for putting it up on your page too.


For those of us who don't know myspace that well. How do we add this player to our myspace page?


just click by the song name first you have to manke sure that you are logged in and than click on 'add' and than just click yes and than bam.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: VaderDawsn on June 23, 2007, 04:27:43 pm
Quote from: "itsthefiveofus"
just click by the song name first you have to manke sure that you are logged in and than click on 'add' and than just click yes and than bam.


Thanks. I figured it out a couple of minutes after I posted the Q... As a computer geek I hang my head in shame  :razz:  j/k, even the most tech-savie have moments of "huh" and I'm not ashamed to admit it.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: itsthefiveofus on June 23, 2007, 08:54:19 pm
Quote from: "VaderDawsn"
Quote from: "itsthefiveofus"
just click by the song name first you have to manke sure that you are logged in and than click on 'add' and than just click yes and than bam.


Thanks. I figured it out a couple of minutes after I posted the Q... As a computer geek I hang my head in shame  :razz:  j/k, even the most tech-savie have moments of "huh" and I'm not ashamed to admit it.


tell me about it.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: portions.for.foxes on June 23, 2007, 08:56:44 pm
Quote from: "Ghisy"
You're always looking way too much into things.
But whatever Rosie...I'm done arguing with you because you always want to be right.  :roll:


I agree. Music is music. I get really annoyed when people over analyze everything and attempt to apply deep meanings to everything they hear or read. And then proceeds to judge a piece of poetry, music, or art and decide it's childish or not mature enough because it doesn't adhere to that persons aesthetics and their idea of how something should read, look, or sound.

Fergie has released some really awesome pop songs lately, love her or hate her, she has great pop songs that sell well. Music doesn't have to be deep or sophisticated in anyway to be music.

And guess what, I'm a classically trained pianist and attend the Rhode Island Philharmonic Music School, the notion of having some musical inclanation more so than others does not give you the right to judge a song and then blast other people for having a different opinion while asserting yours has more credibility, that's a bunch of horse crap. God, this place is crowded with elitist snobs. And I deal with a lot of elitist snobs on a daily basis at the music school. Seriously.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: PianoPlayer12 on June 24, 2007, 12:24:01 am
Quote from: "portions.for.foxes"
Quote from: "Ghisy"
You're always looking way too much into things.
But whatever Rosie...I'm done arguing with you because you always want to be right.  :roll:


I agree. Music is music. I get really annoyed when people over analyze everything and attempt to apply deep meanings to everything they hear or read. And then proceeds to judge a piece of poetry, music, or art and decide it's childish or not mature enough because it doesn't adhere to that persons aesthetics and their idea of how something should read, look, or sound.

Fergie has released some really awesome pop songs lately, love her or hate her, she has great pop songs that sell well. Music doesn't have to be deep or sophisticated in anyway to be music.

And guess what, I'm a classically trained pianist and attend the Rhode Island Philharmonic Music School, the notion of having some musical inclanation more so than others does not give you the right to judge a song and then blast other people for having a different opinion while asserting yours has more credibility, that's a bunch of horse crap. God, this place is crowded with elitist snobs. And I deal with a lot of elitist snobs on a daily basis at the music school. Seriously.


That was very perfectly put :)
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: rosieposy87 on June 24, 2007, 01:54:04 am
Quote from: "portions.for.foxes"
Quote from: "Ghisy"
You're always looking way too much into things.
But whatever Rosie...I'm done arguing with you because you always want to be right.  :roll:


I agree. Music is music. I get really annoyed when people over analyze everything and attempt to apply deep meanings to everything they hear or read. And then proceeds to judge a piece of poetry, music, or art and decide it's childish or not mature enough because it doesn't adhere to that persons aesthetics and their idea of how something should read, look, or sound.

Fergie has released some really awesome pop songs lately, love her or hate her, she has great pop songs that sell well. Music doesn't have to be deep or sophisticated in anyway to be music.

And guess what, I'm a classically trained pianist and attend the Rhode Island Philharmonic Music School, the notion of having some musical inclanation more so than others does not give you the right to judge a song and then blast other people for having a different opinion while asserting yours has more credibility, that's a bunch of horse crap. God, this place is crowded with elitist snobs. And I deal with a lot of elitist snobs on a daily basis at the music school. Seriously.


This just makes me laugh. I don't think anyone on here was 'blasting' Vanessa's song or criticising others for having a different opinion. Some people think the song is childish- and they genuinely think it's childish- not because they think they are superior. Why do you have a problem with people saying that?

I feel sorry that you think music is 'just music'. Music is a huge and integral part of culture and if that isn't open to criticism then I wonder what you have left. Music should be analysed and criticised- it's what makes it a brilliant art form.

And I don't have any musical training at ALL so I'm not being an elitist snob about this.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: tylor2000 on June 24, 2007, 02:03:11 am
Quote from: "PianoPlayer12"
Quote from: "portions.for.foxes"
Quote from: "Ghisy"
You're always looking way too much into things.
But whatever Rosie...I'm done arguing with you because you always want to be right.  :roll:


I agree. Music is music. I get really annoyed when people over analyze everything and attempt to apply deep meanings to everything they hear or read. And then proceeds to judge a piece of poetry, music, or art and decide it's childish or not mature enough because it doesn't adhere to that persons aesthetics and their idea of how something should read, look, or sound.

Fergie has released some really awesome pop songs lately, love her or hate her, she has great pop songs that sell well. Music doesn't have to be deep or sophisticated in anyway to be music.

And guess what, I'm a classically trained pianist and attend the Rhode Island Philharmonic Music School, the notion of having some musical inclanation more so than others does not give you the right to judge a song and then blast other people for having a different opinion while asserting yours has more credibility, that's a bunch of horse crap. God, this place is crowded with elitist snobs. And I deal with a lot of elitist snobs on a daily basis at the music school. Seriously.


That was very perfectly put :)


I think there is a misunderstanding on both sides.  You are agreeing on more points then you might realize.  Either you like the expression in the song or you don't.  Luckly Vanessa isn't so one sided as to not be able to attract one or the other of us, but all of us, individually, in something we like about her music; in the music she writes.  Be it this song or any other.

No matter what your viewpoint is, I think most of us would agree we want  Vanessa to do well.

EDIT: and yeah that was aimed at rosie also

I edited again for spelling and punctuation mistakes I made at 4 am last night(which is when it was first posted this(a few beers too, hehe)
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Dora on June 24, 2007, 04:34:31 am
wow you people  :o

so um, who thinks the song will go to number one? *looks around*
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Martin. on June 24, 2007, 04:44:38 am
Quote from: "Dora"
so um, who thinks the song will go to number one? *looks around*


If the song's promoted right and has a hot video, I think it can make top 10.

Another number 1 for Vanessa would be great though.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: jen_spen on June 24, 2007, 04:48:25 am
every time an artist with a loyal fan base releases a highly anticipated and long awaited new album there is ALWAYS a backlash......michelle branch, avril lavigne, hanson, muse, silverchair...the list goes on and on and on and on and on......
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: jen_spen on June 24, 2007, 04:49:18 am
oh i mean by a few people not everyone like you know you can't please everyobdy....
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Manny on June 24, 2007, 08:37:35 am
Quote from: "jen_spen"
avril lavigne


hell yeah!  :twisted:
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: PianoPlayer12 on June 24, 2007, 08:47:22 am
im not sure if it will make #1...i sure hope so...but i think it will for sure make like #4 - 8
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: portions.for.foxes on June 24, 2007, 08:56:30 am
Quote from: "rosieposy87"
Quote from: "portions.for.foxes"
Quote from: "Ghisy"
You're always looking way too much into things.
But whatever Rosie...I'm done arguing with you because you always want to be right.  :roll:


I agree. Music is music. I get really annoyed when people over analyze everything and attempt to apply deep meanings to everything they hear or read. And then proceeds to judge a piece of poetry, music, or art and decide it's childish or not mature enough because it doesn't adhere to that persons aesthetics and their idea of how something should read, look, or sound.

Fergie has released some really awesome pop songs lately, love her or hate her, she has great pop songs that sell well. Music doesn't have to be deep or sophisticated in anyway to be music.

And guess what, I'm a classically trained pianist and attend the Rhode Island Philharmonic Music School, the notion of having some musical inclanation more so than others does not give you the right to judge a song and then blast other people for having a different opinion while asserting yours has more credibility, that's a bunch of horse crap. God, this place is crowded with elitist snobs. And I deal with a lot of elitist snobs on a daily basis at the music school. Seriously.


This just makes me laugh. I don't think anyone on here was 'blasting' Vanessa's song or criticising others for having a different opinion. Some people think the song is childish- and they genuinely think it's childish- not because they think they are superior. Why do you have a problem with people saying that?

I feel sorry that you think music is 'just music'. Music is a huge and integral part of culture and if that isn't open to criticism then I wonder what you have left. Music should be analysed and criticised- it's what makes it a brilliant art form.

And I don't have any musical training at ALL so I'm not being an elitist snob about this.


Go ahead and laugh all you want. Really. You seem to entertain yourself more so than anyone else on this forum could. There isn't a problem when someone expresses their opinion about this song, but there's a fine line between expressing an opinion and judging a song by saying it is actually childish and not mature. Which is entirely objective. And others have done that.

Music is a huge and integral part of culture and history. But no matter how you look at it, or how life changing it may be for you, music is still fucking music. YOU apply the deeper meaning of music to culture, history and yourself, music doesn't apply anything to itself other than the fact that hey, it's nice to listen to. Don't lecture me about something I go to school for and am earning a degree in.

And there's a huge difference between analyzing and giving CONSTRUCTIVE criticism from tearing something to shreds and beating it down because people are being nit picky punks, aka "I DON'T LIKE THE HEY AT THE END OF THE SONG, WAHWAH."

Please. You make me laugh.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: amberbeads on June 24, 2007, 09:51:25 am
You don't have to have a "constructive" reason to dislike the song. There's just not much about it that appeals to me. I DON'T like they "hey!" at the end of the song and I don't have to like it; I think she sounds silly. I think her lyrics are childish and I feel she has regressed since her last album and it bums me out.
The only constructive criticism I could offer her on this song is to pretty much rewrite the entire thing. Sorry, guys, but I'm not going to worship something Vanessa shit out just because it was Vanessa. That's not my style.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: portions.for.foxes on June 24, 2007, 10:06:08 am
I didn't say anything about "constructive reasons". Whatever the hell that means. You can like and dislike the song, it really doesn't matter to me. I was talking about criticisms. I'm just saying that rather than being a douche bag concerning your opinion, you can express it in better ways.

I just feel sorry for Vanessa in the end, because concerning her most loyal fanbase, she's damned if she does and damned if she doesn't. We all want Vanessa's album to become a success, and we all have to remember, this is her COMEBACK. Heroes and Thieves isn't about us - her already existing fanbase in the sense that Harmonium was. Right now she's trying to reach out to others who normally wouldn't listen to her music and re-establish connections with previous fans. Everything is pure straight up business at this point, this is make or break for Vanessa.

You don't have to like Nolita Fairytale, but we should still support Vanessa and her endeavours. There'll be other singles from Heroes and Thieves. Awhile ago I asked if anyone had ideas or plans for another ATR project themed around Nolita Fairytale, and no one said anything. I think it's about time we get the gears in motion, October will be here before you  know it!  :)
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: charmedguy18 on June 24, 2007, 11:02:05 am
This argument is so stupid. Are you kidding me? WHO GIVES A FUCK about WHO likes the song. NO ONE CARES. Your opinion is your own, and that's it. No one else's.  zzZZzzz
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: HarmySandwhich on June 24, 2007, 12:29:14 pm
I agree. It's an opinion and should be respected. We're all Nessa fans and being a Nessaholic, of course, we all respect each other's views. Amirite, amirite, amirite? Let's just drop it. K?
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: PutYourHandsOnMe101 on June 24, 2007, 12:39:59 pm
Hope we get a release date for the video soon :!:
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Steveau on June 24, 2007, 12:55:10 pm
Quote from: "PianoPlayer12"
Quote from: "liquidblue244"
I've been gone for like 12 days and I wasn't sure if anyone heard this version of NF. or just the performance video.

http://www.myspace.com/nolitafairytale


Ya weve heard that. Thats the actual album version... :)

I hadn't heard this until now and I like this better than the ones I've heard but it's still not my favorite song
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Steveau on June 24, 2007, 01:04:31 pm
Quote from: "Dora"
wow you people  :o

so um, who thinks the song will go to number one? *looks around*


I highly doubt this song will break the top 10 with all the promotion in the world. You have to get massive play on the radio and unless another ATM is released I don't think it'll happen. Being a fan doesn't mean you have to suspend reality.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: IfICouldFall on June 24, 2007, 01:47:15 pm
ta da! here's my video/cover(?) of NoLIta Fairytale, all the way from Concord, NH!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUq3bRRFX1E

So waddya think? lol  :)
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: HarmySandwhich on June 24, 2007, 02:20:12 pm
Quote from: "IfICouldFall"
ta da! here's my video/cover(?) of NoLIta Fairytale, all the way from Concord, NH!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUq3bRRFX1E

So waddya think? lol  :)


That's awesome! I'm a guitarist but I wished I took piano lessons. I'm sorry, I can't really give any constructive criticism on it.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: PianoPlayer12 on June 24, 2007, 02:41:26 pm
Quote from: "IfICouldFall"
ta da! here's my video/cover(?) of NoLIta Fairytale, all the way from Concord, NH!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUq3bRRFX1E

So waddya think? lol  :)


That was Awesome!! there were a few notes here and there that sounded just a tad off, but other than that i think it was spot on.!!
Do you have a program that you could use to make sheet music... :D
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: IfICouldFall on June 24, 2007, 02:43:25 pm
Quote from: "PianoPlayer12"
Quote from: "IfICouldFall"
ta da! here's my video/cover(?) of NoLIta Fairytale, all the way from Concord, NH!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUq3bRRFX1E

So waddya think? lol  :)


That was Awesome!! there were a few notes here and there that sounded just a tad off, but other than that i think it was spot on.!!
Do you have a program that you could use to make sheet music... :D

Yeah, some notes were like blah, I do have a program to make sheet music but I don't know how to use it. I'll try my best to make one next week.

Thanks for all the comments!  :D
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: PianoPlayer12 on June 24, 2007, 02:44:09 pm
Quote from: "IfICouldFall"
Quote from: "PianoPlayer12"
Quote from: "IfICouldFall"
ta da! here's my video/cover(?) of NoLIta Fairytale, all the way from Concord, NH!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUq3bRRFX1E

So waddya think? lol  :)


That was Awesome!! there were a few notes here and there that sounded just a tad off, but other than that i think it was spot on.!!
Do you have a program that you could use to make sheet music... :D

Yeah, some notes were like blah, I do have a program to make sheet music but I don't know how to use it. I'll try my best to make one next week.

Thanks for all the comments!  :D


Sounds good!!
ill be looking forward to it :D
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Martin. on June 24, 2007, 03:24:59 pm
Quote from: "IfICouldFall"
ta da! here's my video/cover(?) of NoLIta Fairytale, all the way from Concord, NH!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUq3bRRFX1E

So waddya think? lol  :)


Sounds pretty good. What notes do you play for the "take away my record deal / go on I don't need it" part?
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: lavender skies on June 24, 2007, 04:23:27 pm
There was a post about her single on ONTD.

Here is the link with comments. Hmm.

http://community.livejournal.com/ohnotheydidnt/13358203.html
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: IfICouldFall on June 24, 2007, 05:13:29 pm
Quote from: "devil in the dark"
There was a post about her single on ONTD.

Here is the link with comments. Hmm.

http://community.livejournal.com/ohnotheydidnt/13358203.html

oh my god. some of the comments there are extremely... baaaaddd. It's not even "my opinion..." anymore, it's just trashing the song and Vanessa!
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: NoelleNC on June 24, 2007, 05:22:20 pm
Wow, I thought people didn't know who she was. I didn't realize they actually might just hate her?!?!

One person even claims Vanessa's own sister thinks she's annoying... that's harsh.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Martin. on June 24, 2007, 06:14:21 pm
and THAT'S why vanessa needs to make a strong comeback and make the haters stfu.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: PianoGirl4444 on June 24, 2007, 06:18:46 pm
Every famous person has people out there who hate them...even if they're not that famous.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: blueglove on June 24, 2007, 09:00:12 pm
Quote from: "IfICouldFall"
ta da! here's my video/cover(?) of NoLIta Fairytale, all the way from Concord, NH!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUq3bRRFX1E

So waddya think? lol  :)


It is a little wrong...

chorus, and bridge-----

 Alright the chorus I will attach in a picture..


 but the right hand for the bridge is not Eb Bb G

it is Eb D Bb / Eb D G / Eb D F

and the left hand is in on the entire bridge it is not one handed in the begining


(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y256/mytriptoparis/Picture-3.jpg)

That should help out a bit


EDIT... I messed up last night when I made this fast on finale... The second set should be the second and third right hand part reversed... I dont have time to make a new one....
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: PianoPlayer12 on June 24, 2007, 09:38:31 pm
Quote from: "blueglove"
Quote from: "IfICouldFall"
ta da! here's my video/cover(?) of NoLIta Fairytale, all the way from Concord, NH!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUq3bRRFX1E

So waddya think? lol  :)


It is a little wrong...

chorus, and bridge-----

 Alright the chorus I will attach in a picture..


 but the right hand for the bridge is not Eb Bb G

it is Eb D Ab / Eb D G / Eb D F

and the left hand is in on the entire bridge it is not one handed in the begining


(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y256/mytriptoparis/Picture-3.jpg)

That should help out a bit


Awesommee!! Thanks :) i will try it out tomorrow :D
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: blueglove on June 24, 2007, 10:46:17 pm
anytime... it sounds wrong but in the video i was watching like 4000000 times becuase I was second guessing myself... it is what she is playing
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: IfICouldFall on June 25, 2007, 03:27:59 am
Quote from: "blueglove"
Quote from: "IfICouldFall"
ta da! here's my video/cover(?) of NoLIta Fairytale, all the way from Concord, NH!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUq3bRRFX1E

So waddya think? lol  :)


It is a little wrong...

chorus, and bridge-----

 Alright the chorus I will attach in a picture..


 but the right hand for the bridge is not Eb Bb G

it is Eb D Ab / Eb D G / Eb D F

and the left hand is in on the entire bridge it is not one handed in the begining


(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y256/mytriptoparis/Picture-3.jpg)

That should help out a bit

Thanks a lot! I'll try it. But did you use the one where she was playing live? Because I used the real track and this live one on different occasions so that's why it sounds different... I think.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: blueglove on June 25, 2007, 04:46:24 am
Makesure you check the edit I just made... At 2 am or whenever that was I guess I did not do it right... anyways it should be in the right hand

G - Bb - Eb   then
Eb - Ab - Eb  then
Eb - G - Eb    then
D - F - D

just to clairify my edit
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: IfICouldFall on June 25, 2007, 05:20:57 am
Quote from: "blueglove"
Makesure you check the edit I just made... At 2 am or whenever that was I guess I did not do it right... anyways it should be in the right hand

G - Bb - Eb   then
Eb - Ab - Eb  then
Eb - G - Eb    then
D - F - D

just to clairify my edit

ok that's the same thing but watevs.  :oops:
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: reveng_desire on June 25, 2007, 10:17:16 am
Quote from: "IfICouldFall"
Quote from: "devil in the dark"
There was a post about her single on ONTD.

Here is the link with comments. Hmm.

http://community.livejournal.com/ohnotheydidnt/13358203.html

oh my god. some of the comments there are extremely... baaaaddd. It's not even "my opinion..." anymore, it's just trashing the song and Vanessa!


Who cares what they think? They're on live journal, for crying out loud. Live Journal sucks :P
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Twilight_Angel on June 25, 2007, 10:57:54 am
whoa man, thats good. I'm crap at reading music- so i'll print it off and show it to someone who can read it =] thats pretty close- not exact but w/e- would still sound amazing live!
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: blueglove on June 25, 2007, 11:52:34 pm
Quote from: "Twilight_Angel"
whoa man, thats good. I'm crap at reading music- so i'll print it off and show it to someone who can read it =] thats pretty close- not exact but w/e- would still sound amazing live!


it is what she is playing.. the live version I just saw she changed the last chord of the chorus again there is a different one per recording.... live, radio edit, and in apartment live... hrm.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: portions.for.foxes on June 26, 2007, 09:40:42 am
Quote from: "reveng_desire"
Quote from: "IfICouldFall"
Quote from: "devil in the dark"
There was a post about her single on ONTD.

Here is the link with comments. Hmm.

http://community.livejournal.com/ohnotheydidnt/13358203.html

oh my god. some of the comments there are extremely... baaaaddd. It's not even "my opinion..." anymore, it's just trashing the song and Vanessa!


Who cares what they think? They're on live journal, for crying out loud. Live Journal sucks :P


Yeah, bloggers tend to be self important morons. I wouldn't worry about what people are saying on Live Journal.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: portions.for.foxes on June 26, 2007, 09:25:05 pm
At the Seven Wonders forum there's a thread discussing Vanessa's new single and the mention of Stevie in the song.

http://www.sevenwondersonline.net/index.php/topic,14585.0.html

It's all very positive! :D
Title: Nolita Fairytale Video of Irv Gotti & V!
Post by: Dianthus on June 26, 2007, 09:29:30 pm
Don't know if this was posted already or not  :lol:  8O  :cry:
But um just check out her myspace page http://www.myspace.com/vanessacarlton and under band members is a new video - Go loook ;)

P.S. Has anyone transcribed the piano sheet music for Nolita Fairytale yet? :D

EDIT: Is it just me or does her voice kinda sound like Sarah Silverman when she explains the song in the beginning? hehe not as in an insult just something I "noticed"
Title: Re: Nolita Fairytale Video of Irv Gotti & V!
Post by: PianoPlayer12 on June 26, 2007, 09:32:03 pm
Quote from: "Dianthus"
Don't know if this was posted already or not  :lol:  8O  :cry:
But um just check out her myspace page http://www.myspace.com/vanessacarlton and under band members is a new video - Go loook ;)

P.S. Has anyone transcribed the piano sheet music for Nolita Fairytale yet? :D


ya it has been posted already..but thats okay... :)

and no...no one has made sheet music for it yet unfortunately...some people have posted a few of the notees...but i cant learn it till i have the whole thing...lol
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: PianoPlayer12 on June 26, 2007, 09:34:56 pm
Quote from: "portions.for.foxes"
At the Seven Wonders forum there's a thread discussing Vanessa's new single and the mention of Stevie in the song.

http://www.sevenwondersonline.net/index.php/topic,14585.0.html

It's all very positive! :D


its nice to read all those nice comments about V and the song...thanks for posting :)
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: soVANE86 on June 26, 2007, 10:26:57 pm
i was listening to Q104 here in cleveland today and actually they played "nolita fairytale" twice in one hour.. but only because they have these contests where its an artists new song vs. another artists new song.  it was vanessa carlton 'nolita fairytale' vs pink 'who knew'. everyone who called in, except one person, voted for pink, and quite a bit of people called in. i'm thinking people won't be liking the new single?? but maybe it will catch on, kinda like how pink's first single 'u & ur hand' really struggled the first few weeks until people caught on. and if not, i'm sure HOM will blow people away when it hits radio!

http://www.q104.com/pages/107652.php    <--- if you go there, you can vote for 'nolita fairytale' to help lol.. cause we all know who deserves to win. the poll's only for today though, so it might be changed by the time some of you read it :(
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: blueglove on June 26, 2007, 10:34:39 pm
Quote from: "soVANE86"
i was listening to Q104 here in cleveland today and actually they played "nolita fairytale" twice in one hour.. but only because they have these contests where its an artists new song vs. another artists new song.  it was vanessa carlton 'nolita fairytale' vs pink 'who knew'. everyone who called in, except one person, voted for pink, and quite a bit of people called in. i'm thinking people won't be liking the new single?? but maybe it will catch on, kinda like how pink's first single 'u & ur hand' really struggled the first few weeks until people caught on. and if not, i'm sure HOM will blow people away when it hits radio!

http://www.q104.com/pages/107652.php    <--- if you go there, you can vote for 'nolita fairytale' to help lol.. cause we all know who deserves to win. the poll's only for today though, so it might be changed by the time some of you read it :(


i got my vote in...
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: PianoPlayer12 on June 26, 2007, 11:09:23 pm
Quote from: "blueglove"
Quote from: "soVANE86"
i was listening to Q104 here in cleveland today and actually they played "nolita fairytale" twice in one hour.. but only because they have these contests where its an artists new song vs. another artists new song.  it was vanessa carlton 'nolita fairytale' vs pink 'who knew'. everyone who called in, except one person, voted for pink, and quite a bit of people called in. i'm thinking people won't be liking the new single?? but maybe it will catch on, kinda like how pink's first single 'u & ur hand' really struggled the first few weeks until people caught on. and if not, i'm sure HOM will blow people away when it hits radio!

http://www.q104.com/pages/107652.php    <--- if you go there, you can vote for 'nolita fairytale' to help lol.. cause we all know who deserves to win. the poll's only for today though, so it might be changed by the time some of you read it :(


i got my vote in...


This is sooo kool!! I voted :D
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: IfICouldFall on June 27, 2007, 07:40:28 am
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=VE7HXXCB

^^ Nolita fairytale sheet music, I know it's not accurate but you can play with it and try to improvise it a little bit.  :)
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: PianoPlayer12 on June 27, 2007, 08:18:32 am
Quote from: "IfICouldFall"
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=VE7HXXCB

^^ Nolita fairytale sheet music, I know it's not accurate but you can play with it and try to improvise it a little bit.  :)


OMG THANK YOU SOOOO MUCH!! :D
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Imaginary Ocean on June 27, 2007, 08:21:43 am
Thanks !!!  :)
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: reveng_desire on June 27, 2007, 10:56:21 am
Pink gets on my nerves. I only liked her Missundastood album (or however the hell she spells it).

Yay Sheet Music! Thanks!
Title: Re: Nolita Fairytale Video of Irv Gotti & V!
Post by: PutYourHandsOnMe101 on June 27, 2007, 02:00:08 pm
Quote from: "Dianthus"
Don't know if this was posted already or not  :lol:  8O  :cry:
But um just check out her myspace page http://www.myspace.com/vanessacarlton and under band members is a new video - Go loook ;)

P.S. Has anyone transcribed the piano sheet music for Nolita Fairytale yet? :D

EDIT: Is it just me or does her voice kinda sound like Sarah Silverman when she explains the song in the beginning? hehe not as in an insult just something I "noticed"


Hahaha she does sound like Sarah Silverman at the beginning! I love her :!:
Title: Re: Nolita Fairytale Video of Irv Gotti & V!
Post by: blueglove on June 27, 2007, 02:46:56 pm
Quote from: "PutYourHandsOnMe101"
Quote from: "Dianthus"
Don't know if this was posted already or not  :lol:  8O  :cry:
But um just check out her myspace page http://www.myspace.com/vanessacarlton and under band members is a new video - Go loook ;)

P.S. Has anyone transcribed the piano sheet music for Nolita Fairytale yet? :D

EDIT: Is it just me or does her voice kinda sound like Sarah Silverman when she explains the song in the beginning? hehe not as in an insult just something I "noticed"


Hahaha she does sound like Sarah Silverman at the beginning! I love her :!:



I LOVE SARAH!!! SO MUCH
Title: SARAH SILVERMAN!
Post by: liquidblue244 on June 27, 2007, 03:04:17 pm
ME TOO! SHE'S SO FUCKING HILARIOUS!
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: reveng_desire on June 27, 2007, 03:05:03 pm
I just thought she was too tipsy on vodka.

"and like....VODKA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA ^_^_^_^_^"
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: portions.for.foxes on June 27, 2007, 03:50:14 pm
Quote from: "reveng_desire"
I just thought she was too tipsy on vodka.

"and like....VODKA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA ^_^_^_^_^"


I don't think Vanessa was tipsy at all, she just has a really sarcastic and dry sense of humor from time to time.
Title: Re: Nolita Fairytale Video of Irv Gotti & V!
Post by: Jophess on June 27, 2007, 04:20:41 pm
Quote from: "blueglove"
Quote from: "PutYourHandsOnMe101"
Quote from: "Dianthus"
Don't know if this was posted already or not  :lol:  8O  :cry:
But um just check out her myspace page http://www.myspace.com/vanessacarlton and under band members is a new video - Go loook ;)

P.S. Has anyone transcribed the piano sheet music for Nolita Fairytale yet? :D

EDIT: Is it just me or does her voice kinda sound like Sarah Silverman when she explains the song in the beginning? hehe not as in an insult just something I "noticed"


Hahaha she does sound like Sarah Silverman at the beginning! I love her :!:

I LOVE SARAH!!! SO MUCH

I friggin worship Sarah. I co-run the forum of her semi-official site that I think everyone here who also loves her should join.

The Forum (http://sarahsilvermanonline.com/forum/index.php)

And yeah, she does sorta sound like Sarah. Must be a Jew thing.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: reveng_desire on June 27, 2007, 05:10:46 pm
Quote from: "portions.for.foxes"
Quote from: "reveng_desire"
I just thought she was too tipsy on vodka.

"and like....VODKA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA ^_^_^_^_^"


I don't think Vanessa was tipsy at all, she just has a really sarcastic and dry sense of humor from time to time.


Really? I don't know. I mean, I guess she wasn't THAT tipsy. I didn't really see any sarcasm though. And the excessive "Umm...um...and like...and like...ummm" was just kind of "okay.."

But then again, a LOT of girls have at least 30 "um's" in every sentence they speak haha.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: portions.for.foxes on June 27, 2007, 05:54:58 pm
Quote from: "reveng_desire"
Quote from: "portions.for.foxes"
Quote from: "reveng_desire"
I just thought she was too tipsy on vodka.

"and like....VODKA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA ^_^_^_^_^"


I don't think Vanessa was tipsy at all, she just has a really sarcastic and dry sense of humor from time to time.


Really? I don't know. I mean, I guess she wasn't THAT tipsy. I didn't really see any sarcasm though. And the excessive "Umm...um...and like...and like...ummm" was just kind of "okay.."

But then again, a LOT of girls have at least 30 "um's" in every sentence they speak haha.


Just watch the MTV Crib's episode that features her. She's extremely sarcastic and dry. Like, she puts all her platinum record awards in her laundry room because, "They're kinda ugly... but I'm happy to have them." It's pretty funny.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: reveng_desire on June 27, 2007, 07:01:30 pm
Quote from: "portions.for.foxes"
Quote from: "reveng_desire"
Quote from: "portions.for.foxes"
Quote from: "reveng_desire"
I just thought she was too tipsy on vodka.

"and like....VODKA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA ^_^_^_^_^"


I don't think Vanessa was tipsy at all, she just has a really sarcastic and dry sense of humor from time to time.


Really? I don't know. I mean, I guess she wasn't THAT tipsy. I didn't really see any sarcasm though. And the excessive "Umm...um...and like...and like...ummm" was just kind of "okay.."

But then again, a LOT of girls have at least 30 "um's" in every sentence they speak haha.




Just watch the MTV Crib's episode that features her. She's extremely sarcastic and dry. Like, she puts all her platinum record awards in her laundry room because, "They're kinda ugly... but I'm happy to have them." It's pretty funny.


lol I've seen that! I dunno dude..It just seemed weird the way she was acting.

hey! maybe IM the one that was a little tipsy while watching the interview! haha.
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Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Steveau on June 27, 2007, 07:48:39 pm
My YouSendIt download limit was exceeded so here's another link to the song portion of the video: http://www.filefactory.com/file/93fd5a/
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Twilight_Angel on June 28, 2007, 09:50:16 am
>I friggin worship Sarah. I co-run the forum of her semi-official site that I think everyone here who also loves her should join.

The Forum

And yeah, she does sorta sound like Sarah. Must be a Jew thing.<



must be a jew thing?

shes not a jew??  :?
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Martin. on June 28, 2007, 09:53:45 am
was sarah silverman in 'school of rock'?
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: portions.for.foxes on June 28, 2007, 10:03:04 am
Am I the only one that thinks Sarah Silverman is completely unfunny and tactless? :? That "joke" she made about Paris Hilton involving jail bars being painted as penises and Paris Hilton breaking her teeth on them at the award show before Paris went to jail was quite possibly the biggest unfunny cheap shot I've heard from a comedian in a long time. Talk about catering to public opinion.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Twilight_Angel on June 28, 2007, 10:04:27 am
Quote from: "portions.for.foxes"
Am I the only one that thinks Sarah Silverman is completely unfunny and tactless? :? That "joke" she made about Paris Hilton involving jail bars being painted as penises and Paris Hilton breaking her teeth on them at the award show before Paris went to jail was quite possibly the biggest unfunny cheap shot I've heard from a comedian in a long time. Talk about catering to public opinion.


Haven't heard of sarah silverman in my life. She sounds slightly cheesy. But I will youtube her and see what shes like
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: blueglove on June 28, 2007, 10:19:14 am
Quote from: "Twilight_Angel"
Quote from: "portions.for.foxes"
Am I the only one that thinks Sarah Silverman is completely unfunny and tactless? :? That "joke" she made about Paris Hilton involving jail bars being painted as penises and Paris Hilton breaking her teeth on them at the award show before Paris went to jail was quite possibly the biggest unfunny cheap shot I've heard from a comedian in a long time. Talk about catering to public opinion.


Haven't heard of sarah silverman in my life. She sounds slightly cheesy. But I will youtube her and see what shes like


I like her because she does not filter things, but she also does not offend people that bad without offending someone else... I know that does not make sence. but I love her.. she is a bitch, and she is ruthless- good combination
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: portions.for.foxes on June 28, 2007, 10:22:30 am
Oh, she is offensive and everything else you described her to be. I just don't think she's funny though, at all. Like... her television show? Complete unfunny trash. :?

If you guys haven't listened to or heard of Lewis Black and Margaret Cho, I definately suggest you look up some of their stuff on YouTube, they're awesome comedians! :D
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Twilight_Angel on June 28, 2007, 10:25:06 am
Quote from: "portions.for.foxes"
Oh, she is offensive and everything else you described her to be. I just don't think she's funny though, at all. Like... her television show? Complete unfunny trash. :?

If you guys haven't listened to or heard of Lewis Black and Margaret Cho, I definately suggest you look up some of their stuff on YouTube, they're awesome comedians! :D


OK. I watched a Sarah Silverman video and in conclusion *clears throat*

she isn't funny. Sorry but I just didnt laugh at all.
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Post by: charmedguy18 on June 28, 2007, 11:19:28 am
I <3 sarah silverman. She makes fun of gay people, and I think it's funny. You've just got to be open to sideways humor.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: tylor2000 on June 28, 2007, 11:47:52 am
Quote from: "portions.for.foxes"
Oh, she is offensive and everything else you described her to be. I just don't think she's funny though, at all. Like... her television show? Complete unfunny trash. :?

If you guys haven't listened to or heard of Lewis Black and Margaret Cho, I definately suggest you look up some of their stuff on YouTube, they're awesome comedians! :D


Oh god, according to Margaret Cho, I'm probably a fag stag.  Brownies anyone?
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: reveng_desire on June 28, 2007, 11:52:18 am
The one Sarah joke that really made me chuckle was the one where the doctor asks her if she's ever had unprotected sex and she goes "Uhh..is there any other kind?
Title: Sarah Silverman
Post by: liquidblue244 on June 28, 2007, 12:09:25 pm
"Doug gets the popcorn"
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Jophess on June 28, 2007, 02:35:18 pm
Sarah is awesome, but her humor isn't for everybody. It's definitely a more evolved, smarter humor. Some people don't get it. Her show is hilarious and she did awesome at the MTV Movie Awards. The Paris joke was a low-blow, but did you expect her to not say anything about Paris?

But back to V, we can move this discussion to the Jesus is Magic thread (http://forum.nessaholics.com/viewtopic.php?t=8702&highlight=sarah+silverman) on this forum.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: amberbeads on June 28, 2007, 05:37:56 pm
Quote from: "portions.for.foxes"
Am I the only one that thinks Sarah Silverman is completely unfunny and tactless? :? That "joke" she made about Paris Hilton involving jail bars being painted as penises and Paris Hilton breaking her teeth on them at the award show before Paris went to jail was quite possibly the biggest unfunny cheap shot I've heard from a comedian in a long time. Talk about catering to public opinion.

she's a fucking douche bag and nothing she says even gets me to crack a smile.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: portions.for.foxes on June 28, 2007, 10:04:32 pm
Quote from: "amberbeads"
Quote from: "portions.for.foxes"
Am I the only one that thinks Sarah Silverman is completely unfunny and tactless? :? That "joke" she made about Paris Hilton involving jail bars being painted as penises and Paris Hilton breaking her teeth on them at the award show before Paris went to jail was quite possibly the biggest unfunny cheap shot I've heard from a comedian in a long time. Talk about catering to public opinion.

she's a fucking douche bag and nothing she says even gets me to crack a smile.



Hahaha.

I'd hardly call Silverman's style of humor evolved and intelligent. If you want smart humor watch this, Lewis Black is a much more qualified and not to mention funny, critic and commentator on society.  :wink:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ngWJDCHHgE&mode=related&search=
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Manny on July 01, 2007, 08:56:13 am
I found this link in another forum
and the INTRO sounds different, or its just me  :?  :?:
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Manny on July 01, 2007, 08:56:54 am
ooops

http://www.zshare.net/audio/250559844f58ef/
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Imaginary Ocean on July 01, 2007, 08:58:54 am
It actually is different ! Thanks  :)
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: portions.for.foxes on July 01, 2007, 09:08:13 am
It sounds way better!

So wait... which version is being used for the single?  :?
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: KULPDOGG on July 01, 2007, 09:29:09 am
thanks!!!

it sounds kinda not 100% quality, but I'm sure it's not sopposed to be like that.

anyway... very interesting...


edit:

I think you just found the actual album version!

it's the same as the single version we previously had.. except it has a 10 second longer intro.

it's common sense that they'd use the edited, shorter one for the single.

but
 8O
could this mean the album leaked already?
...or something...
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Martin. on July 01, 2007, 09:58:12 am
i imagine it was cut down for radio, that's all.

sounds good though. i have a real nice picture of how i want the video to be for this.

maybe a cameo by stevie nicks? ;)
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: ManuelD on July 01, 2007, 11:12:05 am
Quote from: "medic0803"
ooops

http://www.zshare.net/audio/250559844f58ef/


It sounds way different, I like it more like this.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: reveng_desire on July 01, 2007, 11:34:30 am
Quote from: "white_houses"
i imagine it was cut down for radio, that's all.

sounds good though. i have a real nice picture of how i want the video to be for this.

maybe a cameo by stevie nicks? ;)


God save us.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Rainy night on July 01, 2007, 02:01:04 pm
Quote from: "medic0803"
ooops

http://www.zshare.net/audio/250559844f58ef/


heyyyy sooo good another version of Nolita Fairytale...  Thanks for sharing this new found!!!
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Imaginary Ocean on July 02, 2007, 12:26:55 am
I have the "long" version in good quality. I just don't know how to share it. Send me a mail if you want it.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: KULPDOGG on July 02, 2007, 04:45:45 pm
http://nessaholic.googlepages.com/VanessaCarlton-NolitaFairytaleFullAl.mp3

Full clear alternative version, as promoted on The Inc Records website!
possibly the album version.
 :D


you can tell it's different, listen how she says "my record deal"
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Martin. on July 02, 2007, 04:56:59 pm
^^ link doesn't work.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Manny on July 02, 2007, 04:59:14 pm
Quote from: "KULPDOGG"
http://nessaholic.googlepages.com/VanessaCarlton-NolitaFairytaleFullAl.mp3

Full clear alternative version, as promoted on The Inc Records website!
possibly the album version.
 :D


you can tell it's different, listen how she says "my record deal"


Love it!
thank you for sharing!
it sounds so urban
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: KULPDOGG on July 02, 2007, 05:16:09 pm
Quote from: "white_houses"
^^ link doesn't work.



right-click, Save Target As...

it should work, I just tested by downloading it myself, it worked, and apparently medic made it work, too.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: B on July 02, 2007, 05:16:34 pm
Nice! Thanks for sharing! :D

edit: And yeah just right click and save as for it to work. :)
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: VaderDawsn on July 02, 2007, 05:31:40 pm
Kulp, you rock! Thanks so much for all you do to get the media out to us :D  :D

Ooh I really like this version. I totally hear the differences
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: LimeTwister on July 02, 2007, 05:37:48 pm
I am actually impressed with how much better that is.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: ManuelD on July 02, 2007, 05:51:29 pm
Love it. Are the vocals also different or it's just me?, in the "take away my record deal..." part.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: amberbeads on July 02, 2007, 06:10:25 pm
much better. thanks kulpy.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: B on July 02, 2007, 07:26:51 pm
Not to nitpick, but I think the alternate version would be better suited for radio release  :lol:
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: KULPDOGG on July 02, 2007, 08:15:49 pm
Quote from: "ManuelD"
Love it. Are the vocals also different or it's just me?, in the "take away my record deal..." part.



yes they are  :D

I love it, it sounds more mellow... i guess is how I would explain it...
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Imaginary Ocean on July 02, 2007, 10:35:39 pm
Actually it's the version that I have. Great version ! I love the way she sings "record deal"  :)
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: HappyZen on July 02, 2007, 11:46:46 pm
love your work Kulp :-)

and medic .. thanks too :-)
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Ghisy on July 03, 2007, 12:40:46 am
Thank you, thank you guys!!
Love it!!
(just realized there was a Vanessa songs section today haha I was slow on this one!  :oops: )
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Martin. on July 03, 2007, 05:18:16 am
Quote from: "KULPDOGG"
Quote from: "white_houses"
^^ link doesn't work.



right-click, Save Target As...

it should work, I just tested by downloading it myself, it worked, and apparently medic made it work, too.


thank you, very much ;)
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Rainy night on July 03, 2007, 06:26:06 am
Quote from: "KULPDOGG"
http://nessaholic.googlepages.com/VanessaCarlton-NolitaFairytaleFullAl.mp3

Full clear alternative version, as promoted on The Inc Records website!
possibly the album version.
 :D


you can tell it's different, listen how she says "my record deal"


Wonderful!! It's so clear!!
Thanks a lot for this!  :razz:
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: LimeTwister on July 03, 2007, 03:38:20 pm
Quote from: "B"
Not to nitpick, but I think the alternate version would be better suited for radio release  :lol:


I agree.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: VaderDawsn on July 03, 2007, 03:57:41 pm
Maybe the version we heard before was a pre-release version.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: ManuelD on July 03, 2007, 04:08:16 pm
I really hope the new one is the official radio and album version.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: itsthefiveofus on July 03, 2007, 04:56:08 pm
just a few distinctaions but I think it sounds pretty much the same... minus the longer begining.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: IfICouldFall on July 03, 2007, 04:57:32 pm
I love how she says "take away my record deal"... she sounds slightly gangster, "take away ma re-cord deal... word"  :)
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: davidjp on July 03, 2007, 05:21:23 pm
The difference in very subtle in my opinion.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: itsthefiveofus on July 03, 2007, 08:01:33 pm
Quote from: "davidjp"
The difference in very subtle in my opinion.


agree
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Martin. on July 06, 2007, 07:26:40 am
Here's a video performance (LQ) of Vanessa playing "Nolita Fairytale" on tour....

http://www.veoh.com/videos/v734501T45jkac4
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: PianoGirl4444 on July 06, 2007, 07:28:03 am
Quote from: "white_houses"
Here's a video performance (LQ) of Vanessa playing "Nolita Fairytale" on tour....

http://www.veoh.com/videos/v734501T45jkac4


Cool, thanks!
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: itsthefiveofus on July 06, 2007, 09:35:28 am
nice. I think it sounds nice. =]
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: IfICouldFall on July 06, 2007, 10:24:56 am
Where's the hat? lol
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: itsthefiveofus on July 06, 2007, 12:29:07 pm
Quote from: "IfICouldFall"
Where's the hat? lol


lmao. She was wearing the boots thugh or are those the same ones?
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Twilight_Angel on July 06, 2007, 01:16:01 pm
Quote from: "white_houses"
Here's a video performance (LQ) of Vanessa playing "Nolita Fairytale" on tour....

http://www.veoh.com/videos/v734501T45jkac4


thankyou! thats great!  :D

is it just me or is she singing it reaaaalllllllly sloooooowwllllllyyy?
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: All I Ask2003 on July 06, 2007, 01:22:45 pm
Quote from: "Twilight_Angel"
Quote from: "white_houses"
Here's a video performance (LQ) of Vanessa playing "Nolita Fairytale" on tour....

http://www.veoh.com/videos/v734501T45jkac4


thankyou! thats great!  :D

is it just me or is she singing it reaaaalllllllly sloooooowwllllllyyy?


yeah.
it could be she has a tendency to rush or something, and she did this to help that problem.  i don't even know if she has that problem, but it could be.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Twilight_Angel on July 06, 2007, 01:24:06 pm
Quote from: "All I Ask2003"
Quote from: "Twilight_Angel"
Quote from: "white_houses"
Here's a video performance (LQ) of Vanessa playing "Nolita Fairytale" on tour....

http://www.veoh.com/videos/v734501T45jkac4


thankyou! thats great!  :D

is it just me or is she singing it reaaaalllllllly sloooooowwllllllyyy?


yeah.
it could be she has a tendency to rush or something, and she did this to help that problem.  i don't even know if she has that problem, but it could be.



yeah she does seem to perform live quite fast. Annie is always really speeded up.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: PianoPlayer12 on July 06, 2007, 08:27:37 pm
Quote from: "Twilight_Angel"
Quote from: "All I Ask2003"
Quote from: "Twilight_Angel"
Quote from: "white_houses"
Here's a video performance (LQ) of Vanessa playing "Nolita Fairytale" on tour....

http://www.veoh.com/videos/v734501T45jkac4


thankyou! thats great!  :D

is it just me or is she singing it reaaaalllllllly sloooooowwllllllyyy?


yeah.
it could be she has a tendency to rush or something, and she did this to help that problem.  i don't even know if she has that problem, but it could be.


ya i havent noticed...but with Annie, shes only played it like twiceo n our hasnt she? lol i dunno if we even have any live recordings....well i know we have that short vid...buti think thats it??


yeah she does seem to perform live quite fast. Annie is always really speeded up.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: portions.for.foxes on July 06, 2007, 09:19:34 pm
There's a full length video. But the quality is shit-tastic. I hope she peforms Annie more in the coming year when she tours in support of Heroes and Thieves.

Private Radio and Annie got shafted last time around pretty much.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Twilight_Angel on July 07, 2007, 03:22:28 am
Quote from: "PianoPlayer12"
Quote from: "Twilight_Angel"
Quote from: "All I Ask2003"
Quote from: "Twilight_Angel"
Quote from: "white_houses"
Here's a video performance (LQ) of Vanessa playing "Nolita Fairytale" on tour....

http://www.veoh.com/videos/v734501T45jkac4


thankyou! thats great!  :D

is it just me or is she singing it reaaaalllllllly sloooooowwllllllyyy?


yeah.
it could be she has a tendency to rush or something, and she did this to help that problem.  i don't even know if she has that problem, but it could be.


ya i havent noticed...but with Annie, shes only played it like twiceo n our hasnt she? lol i dunno if we even have any live recordings....well i know we have that short vid...buti think thats it??


yeah she does seem to perform live quite fast. Annie is always really speeded up.



i dont know how many...i just youtubed it and noticed how fast it was. But thinking about it i havent heard any life songs other then Annie that are significatly faster.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Rainy night on July 08, 2007, 07:52:07 am
Quote from: "white_houses"
Here's a video performance (LQ) of Vanessa playing "Nolita Fairytale" on tour....

http://www.veoh.com/videos/v734501T45jkac4


Waaaw great I just didn't notice that! Thanks for the vid!!  :wink:  I definately loooove Nolita Fairytale  :lol:
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: PianoPlayer12 on July 08, 2007, 10:32:03 am
lol i forgot to post in quote upthere  ^^^^^^ but what evs...that was like 2 days ago...i forgot what i was trying to post.lol
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: IfICouldFall on July 17, 2007, 03:31:54 am
AAAAAAHHHH!!!! Nolita Fairytale is on iTunes! I immediately bought it! Yay! Check it out, it's under new releases! Cover art title for Heroes and Thieves is amazing.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: davidjp on July 17, 2007, 04:21:39 am
Yeah, the cover looks awesome! Can't wait to get my hands on it!! :D
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Martin. on July 17, 2007, 04:32:09 am
Can anyone get a picture of it?! :D
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Suicidalboobs on July 17, 2007, 08:23:49 am
this is the cover for the Nolita Fairytale single
(http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/3861/nolitafairytalesinglecoat2.png)

at the top it says "From her forthcoming album." Looks like she's wearing a hat, no?
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: KULPDOGG on July 17, 2007, 10:21:07 am
oh wow.

which version is it on itunes?


looks awesome by the way!
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: ManuelD on July 17, 2007, 10:37:01 am
I don't like the hat.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: PianoPlayer12 on July 17, 2007, 10:47:00 am
I think it looks okay...

are we gunna be able to buy the single on its own CD at a music store?
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: KULPDOGG on July 17, 2007, 10:54:14 am
yeah i want to know if any other tracks appear on the single CD
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Twilight_Angel on July 17, 2007, 11:14:33 am
Quote from: "Suicidalboobs"
this is the cover for the Nolita Fairytale single
(http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/3861/nolitafairytalesinglecoat2.png)

at the top it says "From her forthcoming album." Looks like she's wearing a hat, no?



woooooo! thats so cool!

i cant buy it though :(:(
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Martin. on July 17, 2007, 11:29:00 am
Well, it's not the official cover, I'm sure, so I wont look too much into it.

Vanessa's picture looks nice though.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Simply Ordinary on July 17, 2007, 11:47:06 am
Quote from: "KULPDOGG"
oh wow.

which version is it on itunes?


looks awesome by the way!


It looks like it's the version with the extended percussion intro. (3:28?)
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: KULPDOGG on July 17, 2007, 11:52:23 am
Quote from: "Simply Ordinary"
Quote from: "KULPDOGG"
oh wow.

which version is it on itunes?


looks awesome by the way!


It looks like it's the version with the extended percussion intro. (3:28?)


yeah thats the one on the myspace too =)

yay!
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Ghisy on July 17, 2007, 12:37:06 pm
Sweet!!
I'd really love to have an actual single though, rather than a song off iTunes.  :?
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Martin. on July 17, 2007, 01:22:56 pm
Quote from: "Ghisy"
Sweet!!
I'd really love to have an actual single though, rather than a song off iTunes.  :?


There will be a physical copy of the single at some point, I would imagine.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: craft on July 17, 2007, 01:49:00 pm
Quote from: "Suicidalboobs"
this is the cover for the Nolita Fairytale single
(http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/3861/nolitafairytalesinglecoat2.png)

at the top it says "From her forthcoming album." Looks like she's wearing a hat, no?


It looks great. Although the "Heroes and Thieves" logo looks to hard to read. If people can't read the title when they pass the CD rack, then they won't pick it up. :(
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: reveng_desire on July 17, 2007, 02:12:55 pm
Quote from: "craft"
Quote from: "Suicidalboobs"
this is the cover for the Nolita Fairytale single
(http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/3861/nolitafairytalesinglecoat2.png)

at the top it says "From her forthcoming album." Looks like she's wearing a hat, no?


It looks great. Although the "Heroes and Thieves" logo looks to hard to read. If people can't read the title when they pass the CD rack, then they won't pick it up. :(


I think they WILL pick it up.

*Guy walks by the singles rack at the CD store. Some obscure title catches his eyes*

Guy - Hey, what the hell does that say?

*guy picks up the cd*

Guy - Heroes and Thieves? Oooooo




...right? lol
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: IfICouldFall on July 17, 2007, 02:19:23 pm
So... when do you think we should expect news about a music video??? Gosh, I'm so excited about this!
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: VaderDawsn on July 17, 2007, 03:30:16 pm
Ooh that's awesome.. I can't wait to start hearing it on the radio. I hope there is a music video.


EDIT: IT would be awesome if i had a physical copy of the single for VC to sign on thursday
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Martin. on July 17, 2007, 04:07:24 pm
Quote from: "IfICouldFall"
So... when do you think we should expect news about a music video??? Gosh, I'm so excited about this!


Within a couple of weeks, hopefully.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: LimeTwister on July 17, 2007, 05:22:42 pm
myspace put up the version with the fun drum beat intro.

exciting.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Dianthus on July 17, 2007, 11:36:49 pm
Quote from: "reveng_desire"
Quote from: "craft"
Quote from: "Suicidalboobs"
this is the cover for the Nolita Fairytale single
(http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/3861/nolitafairytalesinglecoat2.png)

at the top it says "From her forthcoming album." Looks like she's wearing a hat, no?


It looks great. Although the "Heroes and Thieves" logo looks to hard to read. If people can't read the title when they pass the CD rack, then they won't pick it up. :(


I think they WILL pick it up.

*Guy walks by the singles rack at the CD store. Some obscure title catches his eyes*

Guy - Hey, what the hell does that say?

*guy picks up the cd*

Guy - Heroes and Thieves? Oooooo




...right? lol



Yess too true :) and nicely said haha :D
I love the cover art she looks so matured and pretty in it
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: itsthefiveofus on July 18, 2007, 08:32:40 am
she does look great. I love the tittle art of it. I like the feel of the cover. I am sure the CD cover will look somwhat like that because most of the singles usually go along with how the cd looks. Or not...dunoo.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Jophess on July 18, 2007, 09:26:40 am
Here's the higher-res art work, it doesn't seem anyone else posted it....

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/nagyovafan/nolitafairtytale.jpg)

I think the Heroes and Thieves logo, but I don't like this artwork... it looks like something anybody could do on Photoshop. I hope that her cover is as well-made as Harmonium and BnN.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: KULPDOGG on July 18, 2007, 09:37:46 am
oh wow, thanks =)
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Martin. on July 18, 2007, 10:08:29 am
Quote from: "Jophess"
Here's the higher-res art work, it doesn't seem anyone else posted it....

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/nagyovafan/nolitafairtytale.jpg)

I think the Heroes and Thieves logo, but I don't like this artwork... it looks like something anybody could do on Photoshop. I hope that her cover is as well-made as Harmonium and BnN.


I agree. If the artwork is going to look like this, she might aswell just give up now.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: portions.for.foxes on July 18, 2007, 10:25:06 am
I'm pretty sure this is something they just scrapped up together just for iTunes. For some reason I doubt her single will get a physical release.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Martin. on July 18, 2007, 10:49:46 am
The song is #50 on Pop iTunes US currently.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Twilight_Angel on July 18, 2007, 11:31:37 am
o0o0o! wow already some rate of success!  :D
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Ghisy on July 18, 2007, 11:48:51 am
Quote from: "portions.for.foxes"
For some reason I doubt her single will get a physical release.

I will be VERY pissed if we don't get a real physical single.  :evil:
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: itsthefiveofus on July 18, 2007, 12:30:24 pm
Quote from: "white_houses"
The song is #50 on Pop iTunes US currently.


 Thats pretty spiffy....I just checked it on my iTunes and its at number 49 now.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: ManuelD on July 18, 2007, 01:41:22 pm
Quote from: "Jophess"

I think the Heroes and Thieves logo, but I don't like this artwork... it looks like something anybody could do on Photoshop. I hope that her cover is as well-made as Harmonium and BnN.


I'm sure it will.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: davidjp on July 18, 2007, 02:12:21 pm
Has she sold enough copies for her song to debut on the Hot 100 next week or possibly this week?
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: LimeTwister on July 18, 2007, 02:24:09 pm
Quote from: "ManuelD"
Quote from: "Jophess"

I think the Heroes and Thieves logo, but I don't like this artwork... it looks like something anybody could do on Photoshop. I hope that her cover is as well-made as Harmonium and BnN.


I'm sure it will.


it might use the same picture...just not as tacky looking.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Martin. on July 18, 2007, 02:25:49 pm
Quote from: "portions.for.foxes"
I'm pretty sure this is something they just scrapped up together just for iTunes. For some reason I doubt her single will get a physical release.


What makes you think that? It's been less than 24 hours since the song has been released to radio. This is just the start of the project. I'm sure The Inc will be doing everything to promote Vanessa - they've invested a hell of a lot in her (I'm not just talking financially, either). Irv seems to really care about Vanessa and her music.

I'm almost sure there will be a physical release at some point. She needs to shoot the video (which I imagine will be in a few weeks time).
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: PianoPlayer12 on July 18, 2007, 04:29:28 pm
Quote from: "itsthefiveofus"
Quote from: "white_houses"
The song is #50 on Pop iTunes US currently.


 Thats pretty spiffy....I just checked it on my iTunes and its at number 49 now.


Hey...where do i look at its current standing??
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: itsthefiveofus on July 18, 2007, 05:16:59 pm
Quote from: "PianoPlayer12"
Quote from: "itsthefiveofus"
Quote from: "white_houses"
The song is #50 on Pop iTunes US currently.


 Thats pretty spiffy....I just checked it on my iTunes and its at number 49 now.


Hey...where do i look at its current standing??


just go to the iTunes store and than click on music on the links to the left than click on pop under generas list of music than they have the whole top songs on the right, click on that for more than scroll down and they have the top whatever # of songs. Shes # 49 still I think yup she is.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: PianoPlayer12 on July 18, 2007, 05:25:09 pm
Quote from: "itsthefiveofus"
Quote from: "PianoPlayer12"
Quote from: "itsthefiveofus"
Quote from: "white_houses"
The song is #50 on Pop iTunes US currently.


 Thats pretty spiffy....I just checked it on my iTunes and its at number 49 now.


Hey...where do i look at its current standing??


just go to the iTunes store and than click on music on the links to the left than click on pop under generas list of music than they have the whole top songs on the right, click on that for more than scroll down and they have the top whatever # of songs. Shes # 49 still I think yup she is.


I couldnt find it. I click on pop....then on the right....it says Top Songs....and it shows the top 10...then under that it says Top albums, and it shows the top ten. Next to top songs there is an arrow that i clicked on....and it shows the top 100...it says #49 is Falling for You. by Eva Avila....:S
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Martin. on July 18, 2007, 05:30:54 pm
You're in Canada though, right?
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: ManuelD on July 18, 2007, 05:38:37 pm
Quote from: "LimeTwister"
Quote from: "ManuelD"
Quote from: "Jophess"

I think the Heroes and Thieves logo, but I don't like this artwork... it looks like something anybody could do on Photoshop. I hope that her cover is as well-made as Harmonium and BnN.


I'm sure it will.


it might use the same picture...just not as tacky looking.


Nooo!, I hate the hat, it has to be a new one without it.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: itsthefiveofus on July 18, 2007, 06:27:42 pm
Quote from: "PianoPlayer12"
Quote from: "itsthefiveofus"
Quote from: "PianoPlayer12"
Quote from: "itsthefiveofus"
Quote from: "white_houses"
The song is #50 on Pop iTunes US currently.


 Thats pretty spiffy....I just checked it on my iTunes and its at number 49 now.


Hey...where do i look at its current standing??


just go to the iTunes store and than click on music on the links to the left than click on pop under generas list of music than they have the whole top songs on the right, click on that for more than scroll down and they have the top whatever # of songs. Shes # 49 still I think yup she is.


I couldnt find it. I click on pop....then on the right....it says Top Songs....and it shows the top 10...then under that it says Top albums, and it shows the top ten. Next to top songs there is an arrow that i clicked on....and it shows the top 100...it says #49 is Falling for You. by Eva Avila....:S


oh well um are you in the US? that might be why it does not show it.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: PianoPlayer12 on July 18, 2007, 07:01:12 pm
Quote from: "itsthefiveofus"
Quote from: "PianoPlayer12"
Quote from: "itsthefiveofus"
Quote from: "PianoPlayer12"
Quote from: "itsthefiveofus"
Quote from: "white_houses"
The song is #50 on Pop iTunes US currently.


 Thats pretty spiffy....I just checked it on my iTunes and its at number 49 now.


Hey...where do i look at its current standing??


just go to the iTunes store and than click on music on the links to the left than click on pop under generas list of music than they have the whole top songs on the right, click on that for more than scroll down and they have the top whatever # of songs. Shes # 49 still I think yup she is.


I couldnt find it. I click on pop....then on the right....it says Top Songs....and it shows the top 10...then under that it says Top albums, and it shows the top ten. Next to top songs there is an arrow that i clicked on....and it shows the top 100...it says #49 is Falling for You. by Eva Avila....:S


oh well um are you in the US? that might be why it does not show it.


Nope...Canada....ya thats probably why....ill let you guys know when its gets in the top 100 here...
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Suicidalboobs on July 18, 2007, 07:21:49 pm
surely there won't be an ugly red tinted picture on the Heroes And Thieves' album cover right? i hope they don't use the same pic, and if they do, at least in real color and her sitting by a piano or something. i guess we'll find out soon enough right...
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: blueglove on July 18, 2007, 07:27:27 pm
Quote from: "Jessica"
Quote from: "Ghisy"
About the possible singles from "Harmonium", I found this cd a while ago:

(http://perso.wanadoo.fr/nessa/harmoniumcdr.jpg)

As you can see, 3 songs are highlighted: "White Houses" was the 1st single, "Private Radio" the potential 2nd and "Afterglow" the potential 3rd.

Alright, back on topic now!! :)


lol ghis i just noticed that the apple in your avatar looks exactly like the mac logo. kind of ironic considering you're always talking shit about apple ;p


Did you ever get your computer fixed?
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: itsthefiveofus on July 18, 2007, 07:34:47 pm
Quote from: "blueglove"
Quote from: "Jessica"
Quote from: "Ghisy"
About the possible singles from "Harmonium", I found this cd a while ago:

(http://perso.wanadoo.fr/nessa/harmoniumcdr.jpg)

As you can see, 3 songs are highlighted: "White Houses" was the 1st single, "Private Radio" the potential 2nd and "Afterglow" the potential 3rd.

Alright, back on topic now!! :)


lol ghis i just noticed that the apple in your avatar looks exactly like the mac logo. kind of ironic considering you're always talking shit about apple ;p


Did you ever get your computer fixed?


nice find! anywho...
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: itsthefiveofus on July 19, 2007, 07:58:56 pm
oh and now its # 47 on the pop top 100 on iTunes usa.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Dianthus on July 19, 2007, 11:28:53 pm
this is really good  :razz:
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: IfICouldFall on July 20, 2007, 04:15:54 am
did anyone know that this song was actually co-written with S. Jenkins? If you check the iTunes info, it'll show that it was composed by "V.Carlton/S.Jenkins". Just a little bit of interesting info.  :)
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: amberbeads on July 20, 2007, 05:06:30 am
Quote from: "white_houses"
Quote from: "Jophess"
Here's the higher-res art work, it doesn't seem anyone else posted it....

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/nagyovafan/nolitafairtytale.jpg)

I think the Heroes and Thieves logo, but I don't like this artwork... it looks like something anybody could do on Photoshop. I hope that her cover is as well-made as Harmonium and BnN.


I agree. If the artwork is going to look like this, she might aswell just give up now.

it looks like some poorly-funded rap album cover.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Epit on July 20, 2007, 07:25:28 am
hey.... d0es anyb0dy have the audio version 0f Vanessa playing Nolita Fairytale in the vtv vide0? thanks in advance.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: PianoPlayer12 on July 20, 2007, 07:30:56 am
Quote from: "SyaNessa"
hey.... d0es anyb0dy have the audio version 0f Vanessa playing Nolita Fairytale in the vtv vide0? thanks in advance.


you can get it on  my site:

www.freewebs.com/nessfan12

I called it Nolita Fairytale live in her apartment..
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Martin. on July 20, 2007, 08:35:36 am
Quote from: "amberbeads"
it looks like some poorly-funded rap album cover.


I know, right?

It looks like the artwork will look something like the cover too....YIKES!

(http://kulpdogg.googlepages.com/nfposter1.JPG)
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: itsthefiveofus on July 20, 2007, 09:46:33 am
Quote from: "white_houses"
Quote from: "amberbeads"
it looks like some poorly-funded rap album cover.


I know, right?

It looks like the artwork will look something like the cover too....YIKES!

(http://kulpdogg.googlepages.com/nfposter1.JPG)


where did you get that? is that an offical poster type thing or what? I don't mind the cover sure its kinda eh but I really don't mind it
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: VaderDawsn on July 20, 2007, 09:48:52 am
these posters were up at the Bowery Ballroom show Vanessa did last night in NYC.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: itsthefiveofus on July 20, 2007, 10:11:47 am
Thats coolio. UGH I soooo want to go to one of her shows!
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: portions.for.foxes on July 20, 2007, 12:33:43 pm
The Inc Records uses a color scheme of red, black, and white. And it's pretty obvious they're incorporating that theme into the Nolita Fairytale cover/promo posters we see, it just signifies that she's now part of the Inc family and that's a way of presenting the message.

No matter how ugly it is, that's why they're using the color scheme.

I just hope the album cover doesn't incorporate the same red, black and white theme as well. I wouldn't really be too worried about it guys.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: me and my piano---tim on July 20, 2007, 01:25:49 pm
I actually like this artwork... It definitely could look more professional, but I like the idea.
Title: Okay
Post by: liquidblue244 on July 20, 2007, 02:00:13 pm
I like the Heroes & Thieves design, the lettering. It's very vintage. I have a feeling it's gonna have like a old fashioned feel to it.
It does look a little amature.
I hope she looks HOT in the artwork though.
Especially with all these new rap guys. They'll want to make her hot.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: divasteph on July 20, 2007, 02:10:38 pm
duh - she is cream and reddish orange - she is supposed to be a cameo ...
like an old school piece of jewelry - it looks as though she maybe wearing a cowboy hat or something to mimick the idea of heros and thieves...
this is a pretty classy gesture - -- you are all crazy. it's simple - it's pretty
dont over judge the girl or her label - calling her a sell out - she has a group at INC that LOVE her - that care about her and her vision - she wouldnt be there if they didnt - she has learned her lesson from interscope. leave the girl alone.
GEEZ
those of you that have problems with it - need to get a life
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Martin. on July 20, 2007, 02:32:40 pm
It looks like something I could put together in 20 minutes, that's my main problem with it. The colours aren't the issue. Using the same font as the first album is a bit blah, but I can live with that I guess.

We'll see when we get the album cover, I guess....
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: divasteph on July 20, 2007, 02:40:04 pm
then coming from someone who went to school for graphic design - and was one professionally for a few years ------DO BETTER then-
Its really nice - it might look like it took that long but i am sure the graphics person took lots of time re-doing it to Irv and Vanessa's taste.
xoxoxo
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Martin. on July 20, 2007, 02:54:08 pm
Quote from: "divasteph"
then coming from someone who went to school for graphic design - and was one professionally for a few years ------DO BETTER then-
Its really nice - it might look like it took that long but i am sure the graphics person took lots of time re-doing it to Irv and Vanessa's taste.
xoxoxo


Um, don't catch an attitude just because I (and others here) think the cover looks like shit. Who cares what length of time it took for the person who made the poster? The end result looks terrible compared to what we're used to seeing from Vanessa.

Let's compare, shall we?

(http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B0000646TK.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg) (http://ec1.images-amazon.com/images/I/61SFJYMS7WL._AA240_.jpg) (http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/3861/nolitafairytalesinglecoat2.png)

I'm a supporter of Vanessa, but if I don't like something she puts out I sure as hell aint gonna sit there and say "wow, I love it" just to keep people like yourselves happy. I don't like the promo cover. So what? Deal with it.

And FYI, I probably could do much better too. Thanks.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: VaderDawsn on July 20, 2007, 03:17:09 pm
If I am not mistaken (and i could very well be) Vanessa designed the artwork for her prior albums and I'm pretty sure that font is based on Vanessa's handwriting. The new artwork looks like it is the same style..Vanessa's style.. please please correct me if I am wrong or clarify...
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: divasteph on July 20, 2007, 03:19:04 pm
i am not looking at the itunes single to make this judgement because i dont like the single i am looking at the layout of the poster that was posted --- seriously GET A LIFE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Martin. on July 20, 2007, 03:29:22 pm
Quote from: "divasteph"
i am not looking at the itunes single to make this judgement because i dont like the single i am looking at the layout of the poster that was posted --- seriously GET A LIFE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Why are you telling me to "get a life" (which, by the way, I already have) just because I don't share the same opinion as yourself? The layout of the poster is very similar to the promo single, too. :roll: So you whether you like the single or not (that's irrelevant, by the way), you can still compare that cover with the rest of her catalogue. :roll:

I think it's YOUR dumb ass that needs to get a life and out of Vanessa's pussy.

THE POSTER LOOKS LIKE SHIT COMPARED TO WHAT WE'RE USED TO SEEING FROM VANESSA CARLTON. THAT IS MY OPINION. OTHERS MAY SHARE IT, OTHERS MAY NOT. THIS IS A DISCUSSION FORUM WHERE HUMAN BEINGS WITH THEIR OWN THOUGHTS & OPINIONS SIT AND DISCUSS VANESSA CARLTON, HER MUSIC AND EVERYTHING THAT GOES ALONG WITH IT.

DEAL WITH IT! :roll:
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: craft on July 20, 2007, 03:46:24 pm
Since when has a single picture been used as an album cover?
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Martin. on July 20, 2007, 03:50:47 pm
Quote from: "craft"
Since when has a single picture been used as an album cover?


You're not catching my drift. If the promo single and promo poster look like that, it gives a pretty clear indication of what the album cover will look like.

My opinion is BASED off of the promo single cover & poster for the album. If I see something completley different and brilliant like I did when I first saw the first two album covers, then that would be great. But BASED off of the promo single cover & poster, the album artwork is going to look similar (i.e. not the same) to what we've been seeing so far, and because of what I've seen so far, I don't have very high hopes for the artwork. As I say, if I see something completley different, then it would be great.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Martin. on July 20, 2007, 03:55:58 pm
Anyway, this has been blown out of proportion.

I said I didn't like the promo single cover & poster because it looks very amateur-ish, cheap and something I could rustle up in 20 minutes on Photoshop. End of. If you care to have a discussion about it with me, then fine. We can do that. Just don't sit behind a screen and tell me I need to get a damn life just because I share a different opinion to yourself.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: portions.for.foxes on July 20, 2007, 03:58:03 pm
HERE'S AN IDEA.

Why doesn't everyone - STFU.

Huh? :D
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Martin. on July 20, 2007, 04:02:32 pm
Quote from: "portions.for.foxes"
HERE'S AN IDEA.

Why doesn't everyone - STFU.

Huh? :D


Why should we have to? It's a discussion forum where fans get together and discuss Vanessa Carlton & her music. If someone shares a different opinion to someone, that's fine. Just don't make rude and unnecessary comments to them just for having a different opinion.

I said something which someone didn't agree with and made the unnecessary remark that I needed to get myself a life. Where's the sense in that? I don't like her promo single & poster cover so I need a life? Riiiiiight.

This whole argument is pathetic at any rate, so we'll just leave it at that.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: portions.for.foxes on July 20, 2007, 04:05:00 pm
You have every right to discuss, but there's a difference between having a proper discussion and acting like a moron. DivaSteph's comments were uncalled for sure, but there's no need to perpetuate her elistism anymore than she already has herself.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Martin. on July 20, 2007, 04:07:54 pm
I know, I realise that. I just got pretty heated so I'm leaving that mess to die down now and just move on from it. I should have been the bigger person and walked away (so to speak).

SOOOOOO....

Anyone excited about the "Nolita Fairytale" video?! :D
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: VaderDawsn on July 20, 2007, 04:11:23 pm
I am looking forward to seeing a music video for Nolita fairytale.

I wonder if VC will do a performance video (her and the piano) or will she act out the songs lyrics or have actors do it... There are a lot of different concepts the video's director could play with... I'm surprised that I have not heard any official news on plans for the video. I guess one step at a time.. we need the song to be on radio rotation nationally first;-)
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Martin. on July 20, 2007, 04:15:58 pm
It'd be great (and cheesy! :lol:) if Stevie made a cameo appearance in the video!

At the end where the drumming intro kicks back in, I have an image of Vanessa and her band walking off the stage (in slow-ish motion) carrying the equipment out the doors.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: VaderDawsn on July 20, 2007, 04:19:34 pm
Remember Pink's "Don't let me get me" where she had a "dramatization" of her dealings with LA Reid? ... I've envisioned something like that in the video would be quite tongue in cheek.. Stevie making an appearance would be cheesy cool! :D
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Suicidalboobs on July 20, 2007, 04:32:22 pm
Quote from: "portions.for.foxes"
The Inc Records uses a color scheme of red, black, and white. And it's pretty obvious they're incorporating that theme into the Nolita Fairytale cover/promo posters we see, it just signifies that she's now part of the Inc family and that's a way of presenting the message.

No matter how ugly it is, that's why they're using the color scheme.

I just hope the album cover doesn't incorporate the same red, black and white theme as well. I wouldn't really be too worried about it guys.


Not that it would be the end of the world if this were the album cover, but I sure as hell hope you're right. I don't particularly favor it (though red and black is awesome), but the faded red cameo picture has got to go, and the black background is bland. BUT, it's the music that counts. and surely the lyric booklet and back cover slip will be different. but the colors don't represent the album at all.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Manny on July 20, 2007, 06:53:07 pm
Quote from: "portions.for.foxes"
HERE'S AN IDEA.

Why doesn't everyone - STFU.

Huh? :D


I second this :D
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Martin. on July 20, 2007, 06:54:37 pm
Quote from: "VaderDawsn"
Remember Pink's "Don't let me get me" where she had a "dramatization" of her dealings with LA Reid? ... I've envisioned something like that in the video would be quite tongue in cheek.. Stevie making an appearance would be cheesy cool! :D


Lol, that'd be interesting...
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: IfICouldFall on July 20, 2007, 06:58:56 pm
For the vid, I'd really love for Vanessa to sorta have her dogs with her walkin' down the street and a little piano playing here and there. Just a cool chill-out video... maybe here...?
(http://www.razorapple.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/10/11-spring-street-nolita-graffiti.jpg)
11 Spring street

Maybe go into a Ruby's haha...
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: itsthefiveofus on July 20, 2007, 09:47:39 pm
Nolita Fairytale is getting bigger....on Vanessa's top 5 songs downloaded under her name Nolita Fairytale its # 4...

1.A Thousand Miles
2.Big Yellow Taxi
3.White Houses
4.Nolita Fairytale
5.Ordinary Day

I think thats pretty spiffy lets see if it ever gets up to number one! lol you never know.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: PianoPlayer12 on July 20, 2007, 11:15:14 pm
Quote from: "itsthefiveofus"
Nolita Fairytale is getting bigger....on Vanessa's top 5 songs downloaded under her name Nolita Fairytale its # 4...

1.A Thousand Miles
2.Big Yellow Taxi
3.White Houses
4.Nolita Fairytale
5.Ordinary Day

I think thats pretty spiffy lets see if it ever gets up to number one! lol you never know.


Thats awesome....im sure it will for sure get to her #3 probably #2 but i dont think it will get to her #1.lol
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: divasteph on July 21, 2007, 12:44:25 am
i think this is due to the fact that itunes wasnt as popular when her other singles came out....

this is the first single (without album release) since itunes has blown-up
xoxo
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: TheDarkCarnival on July 21, 2007, 02:53:20 pm
I just can't wait till the album comes out!

this song rocks!


(Don't you hate it when you think you hit shift but it's really capsLock???
I do...)

I hope she gets a lot more coverage on this one...I'm tired of talking to all my friends about her and the only commonality is ATM...She's so much more than that.

+She's a Vodka girl
I'm A vodka entusiast as well..

G
Title: .....ruuubys
Post by: Nanc77 on July 21, 2007, 02:59:37 pm
i actually just got back from NYC and ate at Ruby's.. the food was awesome. I took pictures inside... so I'll post them for you guys. The restaurant is tiiiiny. but its so cute and quaint and right around the corner from the spring street stop on the e train. love it.
Title: Re: .....ruuubys
Post by: PianoPlayer12 on July 21, 2007, 04:44:23 pm
Quote from: "Nanc77"
i actually just got back from NYC and ate at Ruby's.. the food was awesome. I took pictures inside... so I'll post them for you guys. The restaurant is tiiiiny. but its so cute and quaint and right around the corner from the spring street stop on the e train. love it.


Oh thats sooo awesome!!
cant wait to see pics :)
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: NolitaFairytale on July 22, 2007, 04:13:14 am
Guys I have a question.
After listening to NF for the millionth time, I noticed, when V sings:
"I used to hover outside my truth,"
That the my sounds a lot like ny? I know ny isn't a word LOL, but could she be singing something else? Or is it just me?
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Martin. on July 22, 2007, 04:42:03 am
Quote from: "charmed_one"
Guys I have a question.
After listening to NF for the millionth time, I noticed, when V sings:
"I used to hover outside my truth,"
That the my sounds a lot like ny? I know ny isn't a word LOL, but could she be singing something else? Or is it just me?


I think it's just you. Listen to her playing it live - you can hear her sing "my truth" more clearly. :)
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: NolitaFairytale on July 22, 2007, 06:46:32 am
Quote from: "white_houses"
Quote from: "charmed_one"
Guys I have a question.
After listening to NF for the millionth time, I noticed, when V sings:
"I used to hover outside my truth,"
That the my sounds a lot like ny? I know ny isn't a word LOL, but could she be singing something else? Or is it just me?


I think it's just you. Listen to her playing it live - you can hear her sing "my truth" more clearly. :)


Oh yesh you are right, thanks LOL :D.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Martin. on July 22, 2007, 07:07:55 am
No problem! ;)
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Twilight_Angel on July 22, 2007, 09:31:13 am
o0o0o on the subject of the video...anyone have an idea about its possible release date?


sorry if this has already been asked/answered...

By the way I am spreading the word of Nolita Fairytale- and alot of people here unexpectedly like it! My friend who is into lady sovereign (just about the opposite of Vanessa) said it's 'catchy' and thats high praise from her  :lol:
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Martin. on July 22, 2007, 09:38:56 am
If they're shooting the video this week, then I'd imagine you'd start seeing it on TV within 3/4 weeks. :)
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: portions.for.foxes on July 22, 2007, 09:44:50 am
I want to be an extra in the video dammit. :(
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Twilight_Angel on July 22, 2007, 09:45:09 am
Quote from: "white_houses"
If they're shooting the video this week, then I'd imagine you'd start seeing it on TV within 3/4 weeks. :)


i wont see it in america....but thats what youtube is for!!

WOOP!!!!  :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

ok...loss of dignity there...never mind  :lol:
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Martin. on July 22, 2007, 09:52:27 am
I live in England too, so hopefully we'll be getting the video shortly after the US do!
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Twilight_Angel on July 22, 2007, 09:56:58 am
Quote from: "white_houses"
I live in England too, so hopefully we'll be getting the video shortly after the US do!


isn't it like...usually a months difference? Well thats what virgin megastores said. I asked about heroes and thieves and they didn't know about it  :(
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Martin. on July 22, 2007, 10:00:58 am
Quote from: "Twilight_Angel"
Quote from: "white_houses"
I live in England too, so hopefully we'll be getting the video shortly after the US do!


isn't it like...usually a months difference? Well thats what virgin megastores said. I asked about heroes and thieves and they didn't know about it  :(


Something like that, yeah. We wont have hardly any information about Vanessa at the minute as the UK release date will be different from that of the US's release date. Once the video is shot for "Nolita Fairytale", sent out to TV music channels and promotion starts kicking off, we should hear something then regarding the single & album release date.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: ManuelD on July 22, 2007, 02:42:45 pm
Quote from: "Hazy Eyes"
If they're shooting the video this week, then I'd imagine you'd start seeing it on TV within 3/4 weeks. :)


That's so long.
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Martin. on July 22, 2007, 02:45:48 pm
Quote from: "ManuelD"
Quote from: "Hazy Eyes"
If they're shooting the video this week, then I'd imagine you'd start seeing it on TV within 3/4 weeks. :)


That's so long.


It'll fly by. ;)
Title: Ruby's in the afternooooooooon......
Post by: Nanc77 on July 22, 2007, 04:30:31 pm
hey guys, i uploaded some of the pics i took when i went to rubys. I also took some video inside, but I havent hosted it on youtube.. here are the pics.

(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a351/Ivy_Lynne/July2007056.jpg)


outside of ruby's


(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a351/Ivy_Lynne/July2007057.jpg)

inside... its tiny

(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a351/Ivy_Lynne/July2007061.jpg)

this dude and v must share hat interests...


(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a351/Ivy_Lynne/July2007054.jpg)

spring street stop on the subway...
Title: Re: Ruby's in the afternooooooooon......
Post by: Martin. on July 22, 2007, 04:34:25 pm
Quote from: "Nanc77"
(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a351/Ivy_Lynne/July2007061.jpg)

this dude and v must share hat interests


LOL!
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: PianoPlayer12 on July 22, 2007, 11:58:00 pm
hahahah funny pic with the guy and the hat.lol

thanks for the pics :)
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: IfICouldFall on July 23, 2007, 04:33:40 am
wow, it's definitely artsy and very trendy and hip. lol  :)
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: Twilight_Angel on July 24, 2007, 02:37:22 am
the sign rockeths.  8)
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: IfICouldFall on July 25, 2007, 06:11:41 am
This a music video question... do we know who might be directing it? and was it supposed to be filmed this week?
Title: Nolita Fairytale-First single??
Post by: joey on July 26, 2007, 02:20:25 am
This song is very strong lyrically...

She really manages to make you feel the bliss that shes feeling... Theres a certain feeling of contentment and achievement when you listen to it... And I'm often left yearning for that feeling... And thats the magic of Vanessa... :D