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Title: "Fools Like Me"
Post by: blueglove on June 25, 2007, 11:37:15 pm
So yea tonight at the concert Vanessa premiered this song. It is absolutely amazing. it pushed into my top three Vanessa Songs. She has a lot of hard melodic structures in it for her voice.
This song is very emotional, and clearly about her and Stephan. before she played it. she said it sounds like HWBTW

Quote
"Speaking of rock-stars I think it's best not to date them"


more information and lyrics and song to come. I have to type the lyrics up, and I don't know how ambitious. I did them with my friend on the way back in buffalo.

"Fools Like Me"


Beware the danger it lurks for those who get swept away
the dreamers get punished most by the truth they say
it's all in the little ways one reveals their loves gone away
loves gone away

when my hand was in you hand my heart was pure
and now I see a different man rewriting memories
the dogs run down the beach
and all I'm left with is sand in my shoes
sand in my shoes

'Cuz fools like me
How we love blindly
And the cracks don't count
It's gotta break in front of me

Now I recall that time at the cafe
The thunderstorm outside words you could never say
they hold the loudest tones
You say alright
but it's ink on a page
just ink on a page

But, fools like me
how we love blindly
and the cracks don't count
it's gotta break in front of me

And tick tock the time
Distant look grows in your eyes
fools never ask afraid what lurks in your mind

I always knew
Somehow always knew
I always knew the truth.

'Cuz fools like me
How we never see
and the cracks don't count
its gotta break in front of me
and It's breaking,
It's breaking
It's breaking

It's gotta break for me to see
At least I can see
I was not afraid
I loved you all the way
And I'd pick the fool any day


Sound Clip  fools like me clip.mp3 - 0.42MB (http://www.zshare.net/audio/24420199e7e4ce/)

Full Song
Fools Like Me-Scranton (http://www.zshare.net/audio/2507882738df4f/) Please don't repost this link just leave it here in 60 days I will make a new one

( the skips in it are because of my recorder... I was only able to get a clip he is on dialup this took forever! lol
Title: "Fools Like Me"
Post by: MeganJane on June 26, 2007, 12:35:45 am
Ooooh... :o  I can't wait to hear it! It sounds like a darker Nessa song to balance out the album  :D
Title: "Fools Like Me"
Post by: reveng_desire on June 26, 2007, 01:27:36 am
Ooooooooooooooo yay yay yay yay!!!
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Post by: Imaginary Ocean on June 26, 2007, 02:04:54 am
Love the lyrics... will love the melody ! Thanks Steve !
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Post by: Martin. on June 26, 2007, 03:16:12 am
aw @ that quote. GO V.

the lyrics sound nice. thanks.
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Post by: IfICouldFall on June 26, 2007, 05:38:42 am
oh wow! It's kinda dark, and I love that... it seems like we've heard almost every song in the new album, huh? but I hope she surprises us with new material.
Title: "Fools Like Me"
Post by: HarmySandwhich on June 26, 2007, 07:05:21 am
GAH!!!1one

It just get's better and better!

Thanks for this clip.
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Post by: All I Ask2003 on June 26, 2007, 07:19:16 am
aww poor vanessa.  at least their breakup was good fertile ground to make what seems like will be an awsome song though.  lyrics are great.
Title: "Fools Like Me"
Post by: KULPDOGG on June 26, 2007, 07:53:16 am
omg new song

:refuses to read the lyrics until he hears the song:
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Post by: HarmySandwhich on June 26, 2007, 07:54:49 am
Quote from: "KULPDOGG"
omg new song

:refuses to read the lyrics until he hears the song:


I didn't really read them either but it's good she's debuting her songs. Personally, I'd love to all these new songs but I wish she kept from debuting most of her tracks. I love a good suprise.
Title: "Fools Like Me"
Post by: blueglove on June 26, 2007, 08:14:40 am
This is easily her most challenging vocal song... it is amazing! I can not wait until ya'll hear it
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Post by: clamicas on June 26, 2007, 08:21:18 am
thanx steve =)
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Post by: blueglove on June 26, 2007, 08:24:28 am
Quote from: "clamicas"
thanx steve =)


Anytime... my friend just was able to kinda send me a clip (he has my recording thing) I am going to get it on zshare....
Title: "Fools Like Me"
Post by: Jophess on June 26, 2007, 08:33:56 am
HURRY UP! *ADD kicks in*
Now now now.

And I'm not reading the lyrics either, Kulpie.
Title: "Fools Like Me"
Post by: blueglove on June 26, 2007, 08:35:45 am
Quote from: "Jophess"
HURRY UP! *ADD kicks in*
Now now now.


Chill I am working on it
Title: "Fools Like Me"
Post by: KULPDOGG on June 26, 2007, 08:36:26 am
Quote from: "Jophess"
HURRY UP! *ADD kicks in*
Now now now.

And I'm not reading the lyrics either, Kulpie.



lol, calm down.
shhhhhhh.
Title: "Fools Like Me"
Post by: Jophess on June 26, 2007, 08:37:52 am
Quote from: "KULPDOGG"
Quote from: "Jophess"
HURRY UP! *ADD kicks in*
Now now now.

And I'm not reading the lyrics either, Kulpie.


lol, calm down.
shhhhhhh.

Sorry, I kinda freaked. it was just a routine log-on and then this happened. I'm rather excited.
Title: "Fools Like Me"
Post by: blueglove on June 26, 2007, 08:50:04 am
it is in the origional post
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Post by: NoelleNC on June 26, 2007, 08:51:01 am
Ooo, I hope it sounds dark and cynical like her other songs with lyrics like this. Swindler is still my favorite V song. I'm not the biggest fan of her love songs, but her vindictive/angry songs always make me happy.
Title: "Fools Like Me"
Post by: IfICouldFall on June 26, 2007, 08:57:25 am
Quote from: "NoelleNC"
Ooo, I hope it sounds dark and cynical like her other songs with lyrics like this. Swindler is still my favorite V song. I'm not the biggest fan of her love songs, but her vindictive/angry songs always make me happy.

Haha that line made me happy!  :)
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Post by: portions.for.foxes on June 26, 2007, 08:57:41 am
Her vocals are awesome on this song... the vulnerable quality in her voice at the end of the clip tugs at my heart strings a little. It's very very pretty.

Thanks a lot Blueglove, you're really awesome for posting this.
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Post by: Jophess on June 26, 2007, 09:00:36 am
Thanks, Steve!
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Post by: NolitaFairytale on June 26, 2007, 11:41:13 am
WOW that is awesome! Thanks sooo much dude :D.
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Post by: PutYourHandsOnMe101 on June 26, 2007, 11:58:48 am
This sounds like a REALLY good song and I can't wait to hear the whole thing!!! Thank you Steve :mrgreen:
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Post by: Martin. on June 26, 2007, 12:00:39 pm
thanks. it's cute.
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Post by: Martin. on June 26, 2007, 12:12:58 pm
she sounds like she's got more control over her voice. i mean, her singing a song like this two years ago would have been one big mess.

seems like she's got herself together. i reallllllllly hope this record is a success for her.
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Post by: itsthefiveofus on June 26, 2007, 12:21:01 pm
so beautiful. Thanks! for posting that. =]
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Post by: charmedguy18 on June 26, 2007, 12:57:05 pm
Quote from: "blueglove"
Quote from: "Jophess"
HURRY UP! *ADD kicks in*
Now now now.


Chill I am working on it

Steve you're a love. =]
Title: "Fools Like Me"
Post by: whitehouses81680 on June 26, 2007, 01:25:41 pm
thank you! :D
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Post by: NoelleNC on June 26, 2007, 01:32:10 pm
Actually, I'm pleasantly surprised. It sounds very pretty. I might beg to differ a little bit, her voice does have some more control, but the last few notes were still a little bit iffy sounding to me. But I'm sure they sound pretty all done up in the studio. I'm thinking some rich harmonies on those lines would sound very nice. I also hope it has strings :) It sounds like a song with a lot of potential... do you have the whole song?
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Post by: PianoPlayer12 on June 26, 2007, 01:32:37 pm
Thank you sooooooooo much Steve!! The clip is AMAZING!!!!!
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Post by: ManuelD on June 26, 2007, 03:57:42 pm
Oh, I love it.
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Post by: VaderDawsn on June 26, 2007, 05:09:18 pm
Sounds really good! Thanks for sharing.
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Post by: Dancernl on June 26, 2007, 09:03:57 pm
Sharing is caring.  Thanks steve!
Title: "Fools Like Me"
Post by: blueglove on June 26, 2007, 09:09:49 pm
Quote from: "Dancernl"
Sharing is caring.  Thanks steve!

you should have gone with me or went.. it was less than 2.5 hours to get there Customs was a breeze
Title: "Fools Like Me"
Post by: Dancernl on June 26, 2007, 09:13:09 pm
Quote from: "blueglove"
Quote from: "Dancernl"
Sharing is caring.  Thanks steve!

you should have gone with me or went.. it was less than 2.5 hours to get there Customs was a breeze


I would have loved to but I couldn't afford it as I am not working right now.  Are you drifting through Buffalo again soon?  I'm moving to Geneseo in August to start a new job, but if you're free we should grab lunch.
Title: "Fools Like Me"
Post by: ordinaryday6 on June 26, 2007, 09:18:14 pm
the high parts sound a little questionable, but i already know i like it much better than NF... i like the lyrics. :) thank you.
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Post by: Dianthus on June 26, 2007, 09:18:24 pm
That's sad :'(

But I love the song! Thanks so much Steve :D
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Post by: blueglove on June 26, 2007, 10:24:37 pm
Quote from: "Dancernl"
Quote from: "blueglove"
Quote from: "Dancernl"
Sharing is caring.  Thanks steve!

you should have gone with me or went.. it was less than 2.5 hours to get there Customs was a breeze


I would have loved to but I couldn't afford it as I am not working right now.  Are you drifting through Buffalo again soon?  I'm moving to Geneseo in August to start a new job, but if you're free we should grab lunch.


def... I live in Rochester closer to geneseo.. college? my friend that I went with lives right of sherdan (harlem) in Amherst... so i was right there...
Title: "Fools Like Me"
Post by: Rainy night on June 27, 2007, 03:52:59 am
Waw I haven't been on nessaholics for just a few days and now there're clips of two nessa songs!!!

Waaaaaw I love fool like me!! I can't wait for the album! This is definetaly a beautiful, wonderful song!!

Thanks again Steve for that clip  :wink:

Summer is beautiful!!  :lol:
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Post by: Gina on June 27, 2007, 04:40:58 am
Ohhh I really love the sound of this one, thank you again Steve!
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Post by: Dancernl on June 27, 2007, 05:19:26 am
Quote from: "blueglove"
Quote from: "Dancernl"
Quote from: "blueglove"
Quote from: "Dancernl"
Sharing is caring.  Thanks steve!

you should have gone with me or went.. it was less than 2.5 hours to get there Customs was a breeze


I would have loved to but I couldn't afford it as I am not working right now.  Are you drifting through Buffalo again soon?  I'm moving to Geneseo in August to start a new job, but if you're free we should grab lunch.


def... I live in Rochester closer to geneseo.. college? my friend that I went with lives right of sherdan (harlem) in Amherst... so i was right there...


Ha, you were 2 seconds from my apartment.  Yes, I'll be working at the College at Geneseo.
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Post by: saphire on June 27, 2007, 05:36:09 am
Amazing. I'd die to hear the whole song. I can't say how much i love this one. Well can't wait until the record comes out  :lol:
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Post by: blueglove on June 27, 2007, 08:07:02 am
I don't know, but I just have an odd feeling that we might not be hearing this one a lot. It shot her voice for the rest of the concert.. I am not sure how this is going to work. This is just speculation, but that is why she did not sing house. It is very hard for her to sing- and this is harder
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Post by: PianoPlayer12 on June 27, 2007, 08:44:21 am
Quote from: "blueglove"
I don't know, but I just have an odd feeling that we might not be hearing this one a lot. It shot her voice for the rest of the concert.. I am not sure how this is going to work. This is just speculation, but that is why she did not sing house. It is very hard for her to sing- and this is harder


ya just from listening to clip of Fools like me you can tell shes really pushing to hit those notes...i can imagine that that would affect her performance...unless she always keeps it till last...
Title: "Fools Like Me"
Post by: blueglove on June 27, 2007, 09:03:00 am
Quote from: "PianoPlayer12"
Quote from: "blueglove"
I don't know, but I just have an odd feeling that we might not be hearing this one a lot. It shot her voice for the rest of the concert.. I am not sure how this is going to work. This is just speculation, but that is why she did not sing house. It is very hard for her to sing- and this is harder


ya just from listening to clip of Fools like me you can tell shes really pushing to hit those notes...i can imagine that that would affect her performance...unless she always keeps it till last...


She did it in the late middle. It messed up her performances of Home, and nolita fairy tale and  A thousandmiles...... and Edge of 17
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Post by: NoelleNC on June 27, 2007, 09:05:33 am
I think part of her problem with those notes is that she tries to sing them strongly. When most people sing high notes in that way, they do it in a whispery, light tone. I'm not sure why V doesn't just do it that way. Maybe she can't, I've never heard her sing whispery and light, but if she can I think she should. It sounds prettier anyway. V sounds nasal when she goes falsetto because it sounds like she is pushing the sound out through her nose, like her throat closes up or something. Maybe she will practice more and get better at the high notes, but her voice might just not be that high =\
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Post by: NoelleNC on June 27, 2007, 09:07:08 am
OMG she did a cover of Edge of 17? I must be psychic. When she first started touring with Stevie I predicted she might cover that, and that it would be the best Stevie Nicks song for her to redo =P Was it good?!
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Post by: blueglove on June 27, 2007, 09:27:58 am
Quote from: "NoelleNC"
I think part of her problem with those notes is that she tries to sing them strongly. When most people sing high notes in that way, they do it in a whispery, light tone. I'm not sure why V doesn't just do it that way. Maybe she can't, I've never heard her sing whispery and light, but if she can I think she should. It sounds prettier anyway. V sounds nasal when she goes falsetto because it sounds like she is pushing the sound out through her nose, like her throat closes up or something. Maybe she will practice more and get better at the high notes, but her voice might just not be that high =\


Personaly when an artist does that to me it is like lower the song or something because you can clearly not sing that! I love how like a m. Carey can sing loud and high.. she has gotten a lot better with her high notes.. her head voice is improving a lot! I would not doubt that she will work at it. It is very easy for a woman to go nasaly in a falsetto
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Post by: portions.for.foxes on June 27, 2007, 09:41:05 am
I'm sorry, but this is just a common assumption made by people that's always bothered me... haha. Woman don't have falsetto. Only men use falsetto and women transition to their head voice. Vanessa is using her head voice in Home and Fools Like Me, she can't use falsetto because she isn't a man. Falsetto and head voice are different from each other but I don't feel like explaining why. lol Now that that's said... I'll shut up. Haha.
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Post by: blueglove on June 27, 2007, 09:46:37 am
Quote from: "portions.for.foxes"
I'm sorry, but this is just a common assumption made by people that's always bothered me... haha. Woman don't have falsetto. Only men use falsetto and women transition to their head voice. Vanessa is using her head voice in Home and Fools Like Me, she can't use falsetto because she isn't a man. Falsetto and head voice are different from each other but I don't feel like explaining why. lol Now that that's said... I'll shut up. Haha.


ahaha I think I beat you to that too.. it made me cringe.. There is a falcetto- only on M. Carey though... Vanessa no
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Post by: portions.for.foxes on June 27, 2007, 09:50:00 am
Quote from: "blueglove"
Quote from: "portions.for.foxes"
I'm sorry, but this is just a common assumption made by people that's always bothered me... haha. Woman don't have falsetto. Only men use falsetto and women transition to their head voice. Vanessa is using her head voice in Home and Fools Like Me, she can't use falsetto because she isn't a man. Falsetto and head voice are different from each other but I don't feel like explaining why. lol Now that that's said... I'll shut up. Haha.


ahaha I think I beat you to that too.. it made me cringe.. There is a falcetto- only on M. Carey though... Vanessa no


Mariah goes into what's called a whistle register. Which is also different from falsetto. Haha, sorry. :3 It's basically like a super high head voice. Like, super super high.
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Post by: PianoPlayer12 on June 27, 2007, 11:31:07 am
Hey steve....is Edge of 17 a song that just V sang with the piano...or did she sing it with Stevie?

Do you think it could be the cover for this Album??
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Post by: NoelleNC on June 27, 2007, 01:36:29 pm
God, I'm sorry I made you cringe. How dare I misuse a musical term. I know that men go falsetto and that the term is usually meant for men, but I didn't know the female equivalent so I just said that. Stop being a musical snob.


(let me add that I'm only really referencing Blueglove, the other person's response didn't bother me, but blueglove often uses condescending tones with people and it gets on my nerves)
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Post by: blueglove on June 27, 2007, 02:45:04 pm
Quote from: "portions.for.foxes"
Quote from: "blueglove"
Quote from: "portions.for.foxes"
I'm sorry, but this is just a common assumption made by people that's always bothered me... haha. Woman don't have falsetto. Only men use falsetto and women transition to their head voice. Vanessa is using her head voice in Home and Fools Like Me, she can't use falsetto because she isn't a man. Falsetto and head voice are different from each other but I don't feel like explaining why. lol Now that that's said... I'll shut up. Haha.


ahaha I think I beat you to that too.. it made me cringe.. There is a falcetto- only on M. Carey though... Vanessa no


Mariah goes into what's called a whistle register. Which is also different from falsetto. Haha, sorry. :3 It's basically like a super high head voice. Like, super super high.


by definition isn't is falcetto.... she moves those end strands on a vocal cord... normally woman can not do that. Men can that is what gives them false voice- just a question, not trying to sound conceded
Title: "Fools Like Me"
Post by: blueglove on June 27, 2007, 02:46:02 pm
Quote from: "NoelleNC"
God, I'm sorry I made you cringe. How dare I misuse a musical term. I know that men go falsetto and that the term is usually meant for men, but I didn't know the female equivalent so I just said that. Stop being a musical snob.


(let me add that I'm only really referencing Blueglove, the other person's response didn't bother me, but blueglove often uses condescending tones with people and it gets on my nerves)


OK i'm sorry I just must type condecendingly... I am sorry, but what ev.. I don't feel like fighting about the way that I type- just don't read into the way that I type things... it was not to make fun of you
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Post by: liquidblue244 on June 27, 2007, 03:00:40 pm
Why is everyone so testy?.....SAM I NEED YOU
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Post by: reveng_desire on June 27, 2007, 03:07:46 pm
What what? For what?
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Post by: portions.for.foxes on June 27, 2007, 03:38:02 pm
Quote from: "blueglove"
Quote from: "portions.for.foxes"
Quote from: "blueglove"
Quote from: "portions.for.foxes"
I'm sorry, but this is just a common assumption made by people that's always bothered me... haha. Woman don't have falsetto. Only men use falsetto and women transition to their head voice. Vanessa is using her head voice in Home and Fools Like Me, she can't use falsetto because she isn't a man. Falsetto and head voice are different from each other but I don't feel like explaining why. lol Now that that's said... I'll shut up. Haha.


ahaha I think I beat you to that too.. it made me cringe.. There is a falcetto- only on M. Carey though... Vanessa no


Mariah goes into what's called a whistle register. Which is also different from falsetto. Haha, sorry. :3 It's basically like a super high head voice. Like, super super high.


by definition isn't is falcetto.... she moves those end strands on a vocal cord... normally woman can not do that. Men can that is what gives them false voice- just a question, not trying to sound conceded


Nooo. I'm pretty positive she's still using the head voice register when she does that. Mariah is known for her whistle range, which is the highest register of the human voice. It's like those... super high pitched whistly "ooo's" that she does. I've never heard or read anything about her being able to use falsetto.

I could be wrong though.
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Post by: kaysha on June 28, 2007, 02:36:15 am
Quote from: "portions.for.foxes"
Quote from: "blueglove"
Quote from: "portions.for.foxes"
Quote from: "blueglove"
Quote from: "portions.for.foxes"
I'm sorry, but this is just a common assumption made by people that's always bothered me... haha. Woman don't have falsetto. Only men use falsetto and women transition to their head voice. Vanessa is using her head voice in Home and Fools Like Me, she can't use falsetto because she isn't a man. Falsetto and head voice are different from each other but I don't feel like explaining why. lol Now that that's said... I'll shut up. Haha.


ahaha I think I beat you to that too.. it made me cringe.. There is a falcetto- only on M. Carey though... Vanessa no


Mariah goes into what's called a whistle register. Which is also different from falsetto. Haha, sorry. :3 It's basically like a super high head voice. Like, super super high.


by definition isn't is falcetto.... she moves those end strands on a vocal cord... normally woman can not do that. Men can that is what gives them false voice- just a question, not trying to sound conceded


Nooo. I'm pretty positive she's still using the head voice register when she does that. Mariah is known for her whistle range, which is the highest register of the human voice. It's like those... super high pitched whistly "ooo's" that she does. I've never heard or read anything about her being able to use falsetto.

I could be wrong though.

I have always found this to be a very interesting topic.

I have only ever heard Vanessa use her chest voice and her head voice.  You can tell when she flips to her head voice because it can sometimes sound very breathy.  One of the keys is to be able to control the transition from your chest voice to your head voice smoothly and almost undetectably.

A second important fact to managing these multiple registers is knowing when to hit what note out of what register... for example you can belt a note out of your chest voice or flip it up to your head voice.  I think there are also instances of Vanessa stressing her chest voice instead of leveraging her head voice.

Mariah Carey is one of the few pop artists i know of to make use of the whistle register aside from JoJo recently and Timberlake is a great example of the falsetto register being used.

My understanding is the following...
Women have chest, head and whistle registers.

Men have chest, head and falsetto registers

And roughly, the head voice of a woman is generally compared to the falsetto register of a man.

I friend of mine is an exceptional singer and she worked with vocal coaches to overall improve her voice, range, air control, etc.  I think Vanessa could be even more amazing with some coaching.

-katia

EDIT: fixed a typo :)
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Post by: portions.for.foxes on June 28, 2007, 09:26:53 am
When it comes to Vanessa she's a pianist first and foremost, when she writes her material she writes the music first and and lyrics/melody are an after thought.

I know a lot of people who have an extremely hard time writing music in that manner, and need to write the music to suit their melody and lyrics, not write lyrics and a melody to suit the music.

Vanessa has even said that she never thought of herself as a singer, but that singing her own material is one of the most organic experiences she can bring to herself.

Which is awesome, I wouldn't have it any other way either, but she certainly doesn't have an amazing blow out your ears type of voice. Back in the Be Not Nobody days her voice was all over the place and used to be really really pitchy. It worked for some songs, but she had a hard time controlling it especially on songs like Wanted... like, that "More than you saaaay-ohohoh" she stressed towards the end of the song, hoooly crap.

And don't you guys remember Vanessa talking about having a vocal coach leading up to the recording and release of Harmonium? I forget her vocal coach's name... some girl. lol But she improved a lot with Harmonium! I mean, C'est La Vie has really awesome vocal play within it. I remember people complaining that she lost some of the emotional quality in her singing with Harmonium because she improved on her tonal quality and control. There's a double edged sword when it comes to singing, the more technically precise and perfect you become the more you lose the emotional quality in your voice. Mariah Carey is a fucking amazing singer, but she has no emotional quality in her voice because she belts everything and stresses the way she's singing something instead of why.

But it wouldn't hurt Vanessa to use a little more coaching, I agree, when she extends her range she borders on getting nasally, which is very easy for women to do when they use their head voice. So it's not like it's a problem only she experiences.

Well, what I'm saying is, in regards to someone who doesn't think of themselves as a singer and doesn't have much training in that aspect, I'm still very impressed with Vanessa's voice. Even now, she sounded great during the live performance of Nolita Fairytale.  :)
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Post by: blueglove on June 28, 2007, 10:14:02 am
Thankyou Katia, and again sorry NoelleNC
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Post by: All I Ask2003 on June 29, 2007, 09:42:23 am
in this clip, when she says "i always knew, somehow always knew," it sounds to me like the chorus in that old song that i think is by a band called the boo radleys "There she goes again," only in a different key. i knew it sounded kind of familiar. anyone else hear the resemblence?
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Post by: blueglove on June 29, 2007, 09:58:28 am
Quote from: "All I Ask2003"
in this clip, when she says "i always knew, somehow always knew," it sounds to me like the chorus in that old song that i think is by a band called the boo radleys "There she goes again," only in a different key. i knew it sounded kind of familiar. anyone else hear the resemblence?


yea just the there she goes it does good catch
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Post by: NoelleNC on June 29, 2007, 04:57:06 pm
I don't think all well-trained singers lose the emotion in their voices! I can see how you could definitely argue that with some artists, but I don't think it's true of all and I wouldn't say it's true of Mariah Carey. In her more poppy, released songs she does sometimes seem to just be "singing", but on some of her ballads, in my opinion there is tons of emotion there. She is just an extremely talented lady, though!

I will admit that some of my favorite V recordings are her live BMI recordings pre-record label or studio album. I still love to listen to those performances of Wanted and Swindler. That is my hands down favorite version of Swindler available. Later, when she made it a studio B side, I cringed. It had no character anymore.
Title: "Fools Like Me"
Post by: blueglove on July 01, 2007, 12:01:41 am
full song is posted in first post
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Post by: IfICouldFall on July 01, 2007, 04:37:52 am
Quote from: "blueglove"
full song is posted in first post

yay! the beginning sounds a little bit like Winter as you said, and I like it. Not as much as i like Home, but it's ok! Thanks for posting again.  :D
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Post by: Rainy night on July 01, 2007, 04:54:36 am
Quote from: "blueglove"
full song is posted in first post


Waaaaaaaaaw I looooooooove this so much!!!! The melody, the way Nessa sings, it's perfect! And I love so much the lyrics... I looooove it!!!  :heart:  

Thanks a lot for the song  :D
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Post by: NoelleNC on July 01, 2007, 07:05:16 am
Wow, I really like this song, and i really like a lot of the new songs, yay.

I like the part : "and the cracks don't count, it's gotta break in front of me, and it's breaking" and the music that goes along with it. It's really intense!
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Post by: KULPDOGG on July 01, 2007, 09:52:57 am
oh wow, this song totally beats Home for me...
<3
amazing.
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Post by: NoelleNC on July 01, 2007, 10:16:44 am
I think this song will sound realllllly good with orchestration on the album, especially towards the end. I am in love with this song and Home, and I really wish there were a good full length recording of All is Well bc I love that song too!
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Post by: MeganJane on July 01, 2007, 06:06:26 pm
I like it and I'm sure I will like it much more when I hear the studio version  :D

It's very vocally ambitious... she's doing well but needs to work on it... it will sound wonderful when she's used to it and doesn't have to push so hard  :)

I'm glad that this song is darker... what I really want to hear now though is something a bit faster and darker!  :twisted:  hehe
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Post by: Jophess on July 01, 2007, 06:11:03 pm
Thank you, Steve!

The "it's breaking" part reminds me of Ameriteen. I like this, more so than  Home I think.
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Post by: NoelleNC on July 02, 2007, 08:36:18 am
Just wanted to say that this song is growing on me more everyday and might end up being one of my favorite songs she's ever done. The lyrics are really good, too. Yes, I think I'm gonna go figure it out on piano :)
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Post by: Twilight_Angel on July 02, 2007, 08:44:08 am
Quote from: "NoelleNC"
Just wanted to say that this song is growing on me more everyday and might end up being one of my favorite songs she's ever done. The lyrics are really good, too. Yes, I think I'm gonna go figure it out on piano :)



yes...do go and figure it out =D hehe

shes sings it so emotionally..its pretty sad  :(
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Post by: Rainy night on July 02, 2007, 09:45:41 am
Quote from: "Twilight_Angel"
Quote from: "NoelleNC"
Just wanted to say that this song is growing on me more everyday and might end up being one of my favorite songs she's ever done. The lyrics are really good, too. Yes, I think I'm gonna go figure it out on piano :)



yes...do go and figure it out =D hehe

shes sings it so emotionally..its pretty sad  :(



I feel the same... Since I first heard the song it keeps floating in my head... I love this more than Home (though I loved the chorus of Home...) but Fools like me... It is definately my second fave Nessa song... It's so beautiful.

That songs is a sad one for sure, vocals are so sweet... So much passion and emotion within them... And the lyrics... So perfect...

I  :heart:  it more and more each day...
Title: "Fools Like Me"
Post by: whitehouses81680 on July 02, 2007, 10:35:32 am
i don't really like it
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Post by: ManuelD on July 02, 2007, 04:17:19 pm
Quote from: "whitehouses81680"
i don't really like it


I know what you mean.
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Post by: All I Ask2003 on July 02, 2007, 06:23:33 pm
this song hits so close to home. about a month ago, i just got dumped by my boyfriend of more than two years...
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Post by: me and my piano---tim on July 02, 2007, 11:18:48 pm
damn i love this song! so easy to be fooled by love
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Post by: saphire on July 03, 2007, 03:29:47 am
It's amazing. I don't know how she could release nolita fairytale while there are so much better songs on the record. I mean nolita fairytale is cool but this song blows me away :D
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Post by: Star7 on July 03, 2007, 05:33:50 am
i love this song
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Post by: NoelleNC on July 03, 2007, 08:55:08 am
Ok, so I haven't really picked out any songs lately and I'm kind of shabby, but I figured out at least the basics of the beginning of the song. I don't have sheet music software and I can't easily describe the way it's played, but if you know the chords and play around with it you might get it. Also, feel free to correct me. When she starts singing the verses it's soooo deep that I couldn't make it out :(

Left hand: C/G, Ab/Eb, Bb/Eb
                C/G, Ab/Eb, G/Eb
                C/G, Ab/Eb, Eb/Bb^
                C/G, C/G, C/Eb (The last two might be Bb instead of C)

Right hand: C/G, C/Eb, Bb/Eb
                  C/G, Bb/C, G/Bb
                  C/G, C/F, Eb/Bb^
                  C/G, C/G, C/Eb

Umm, the left hand and right hand lines are played together obviously :) The note that she keeps hitting between them is the Bb.
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Post by: private-radio on July 03, 2007, 10:16:04 am
I love this song but i prefer Nolita Fairytale , Hands on Me
I have a question ! Do you listen "My Best" and Vanessa cries over this song
It will be like Afterglow ??  :D
Title: "Fools Like Me"
Post by: NoelleNC on July 03, 2007, 11:07:28 am
^ Who has heard My Best?
Title: lol
Post by: private-radio on July 03, 2007, 02:01:00 pm
I think that nobody can hear for the moment

ps: you find that I write well in English ? ( can you be sincere )
thank you !
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Post by: NoelleNC on July 03, 2007, 03:53:11 pm
Well, to be honest, I thought that you might not speak English as your first language, but I think I understood what you were trying to say. People who speak English as a second language sometimes say things a little differently than a native speaker would.

Vanessa cries when she sings "My Best"?
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Post by: ManuelD on July 03, 2007, 03:58:40 pm
Quote from: "private-radio"
I love this song but i prefer Nolita Fairytale , Hands on Me
I have a question ! Do you listen "My Best" and Vanessa cries over this song
It will be like Afterglow ??  :D


I don't think it will be like "Afterglow"; before anyone knew about "Nolita Fairytale" Vanessa said that "My Best" could be the first single, so I guess it's a more radio friendly song.
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Post by: blueglove on July 03, 2007, 05:32:13 pm
Quote from: "private-radio"
I love this song but i prefer Nolita Fairytale , Hands on Me
I have a question ! Do you listen "My Best" and Vanessa cries over this song
It will be like Afterglow ??  :D


is english your native language?No offence what the hell?
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Post by: ordinaryday6 on July 03, 2007, 08:46:21 pm
Quote from: "ManuelD"
Quote from: "private-radio"
I love this song but i prefer Nolita Fairytale , Hands on Me
I have a question ! Do you listen "My Best" and Vanessa cries over this song
It will be like Afterglow ??  :D


I don't think it will be like "Afterglow"; before anyone knew about "Nolita Fairytale" Vanessa said that "My Best" could be the first single, so I guess it's a more radio friendly song.


there have been a lot of potential singles.. there was the promosquad thing with this time, everybody thought HOM would be, vanessa said my best, a girl who sang backup for the album thought it was supposed to be heroes and thieves, and now it's supposed to be nolita fairytale. lol
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Post by: PutYourHandsOnMe101 on July 03, 2007, 08:56:08 pm
Quote from: "ordinaryday6"
Quote from: "ManuelD"
Quote from: "private-radio"
I love this song but i prefer Nolita Fairytale , Hands on Me
I have a question ! Do you listen "My Best" and Vanessa cries over this song
It will be like Afterglow ??  :D


I don't think it will be like "Afterglow"; before anyone knew about "Nolita Fairytale" Vanessa said that "My Best" could be the first single, so I guess it's a more radio friendly song.


there have been a lot of potential singles.. there was the promosquad thing with this time, everybody thought HOM would be, vanessa said my best, a girl who sang backup for the album thought it was supposed to be heroes and thieves, and now it's supposed to be nolita fairytale. lol


Don't forget that Irv said Home was a potential choice for the first single :lol:  I guess it's good that we know a lot of the tracks are radio friendly :D
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Post by: B on July 04, 2007, 12:52:13 am
The more I listen to this song I really like it.

I think the two parts I like most are when she goes high for

"I always knew
Somehow always knew
I always knew the truth."

And the lines:

"Its gotta break in front of me
And it's breaking,
It's breaking
It's breaking"
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Post by: private-radio on July 04, 2007, 04:14:09 am
I don't speak English but I learn English in my college

Do you speak French ?
Title: i'm 13
Post by: private-radio on July 04, 2007, 04:21:12 am
I'm 13  thus I speak a little  English

but I am really bad !!

you are likely to speak English ! French is very easy !
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Post by: Imaginary Ocean on July 04, 2007, 07:28:02 am
Quote from: "private-radio"

but I am really bad !!

Yes, you are  :)
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Post by: ordinaryday6 on July 04, 2007, 07:44:18 am
everybody leave him/her alone.. jeez.
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Post by: NoelleNC on July 04, 2007, 08:02:18 am
Quote from: "blueglove"
Quote from: "private-radio"
I love this song but i prefer Nolita Fairytale , Hands on Me
I have a question ! Do you listen "My Best" and Vanessa cries over this song
It will be like Afterglow ??  :D


is english your native language?No offence what the hell?


^ Do you ever smile and laugh, or are you always negative?
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Post by: private-radio on July 04, 2007, 08:53:31 am
thank you for your sincerity



 :cry: I am  bad in English  :cry:
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Post by: Manny on July 04, 2007, 09:01:26 am
You're young and you are learning.   :wink:
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Post by: All I Ask2003 on July 04, 2007, 09:09:10 am
Quote from: "private-radio"
thank you for your sincerity



 :cry: I am  bad in English  :cry:

hey, most people who speak english can't even speak it correctly.  so don't be so hard on yourself.
and i took french this past school year.  i like it better than spanish.
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Post by: NoelleNC on July 04, 2007, 09:12:42 am
I think the main thing is being able to understand what the person is saying, and I was a little confused about the Vanessa crying reference, but other than that she was perfectly understandable. :)
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Post by: All I Ask2003 on July 04, 2007, 09:19:06 am
Quote from: "NoelleNC"
I think the main thing is being able to understand what the person is saying, and I was a little confused about the Vanessa crying reference, but other than that she was perfectly understandable. :)

unless, of course, english is the person's first language and they are making no sense.  in which case, it's just kind of sad.  but private-radio is a 13 year old whose first language is french, so like you said, as long as you can understand her/him it's fine.
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Post by: private-radio on July 04, 2007, 10:04:21 am
thank you  !
I know this forum for a long time but I don't speak English  
now I can understand your language a bit :-)

for Fools Like Me ! I love !
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Post by: charmedguy18 on July 04, 2007, 08:23:01 pm
Quote from: "private-radio"
thank you  !
I know this forum for a long time but I don't speak English  
now I can understand your language a bit :-)

for Fools Like Me ! I love !

Aw. Tu es très mignon! J'etudie Francais à mon l'ecole!

We'll help each other haha.
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Post by: PianoPlayer12 on July 04, 2007, 08:57:15 pm
Quote from: "ordinaryday6"
Quote from: "ManuelD"
Quote from: "private-radio"
I love this song but i prefer Nolita Fairytale , Hands on Me
I have a question ! Do you listen "My Best" and Vanessa cries over this song
It will be like Afterglow ??  :D


I don't think it will be like "Afterglow"; before anyone knew about "Nolita Fairytale" Vanessa said that "My Best" could be the first single, so I guess it's a more radio friendly song.


there have been a lot of potential singles.. there was the promosquad thing with this time, everybody thought HOM would be, vanessa said my best, a girl who sang backup for the album thought it was supposed to be heroes and thieves, and now it's supposed to be nolita fairytale. lol


hahahaha ya there has definately been alot of contenders for the 1st single.lol
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Post by: Imaginary Ocean on July 05, 2007, 01:24:47 am
Je suis parfaitement bilingue. Je parle correctement français et anglais et vit en Europe. C'est vrai que pour les personnes ne parlant pas français, tu es difficile à comprendre... mais tu traduis littéralement les mots voila pourquoi ça devient parfaoit un peu.. incompréhensible.
 :)
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Post by: private-radio on July 05, 2007, 01:47:39 am
:razz: here I am in holidays for 2 months  :razz:


The single `nolita fayritale `leaves on July 17?
Do you find beautiful vanessa's works ?
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Post by: itsthefiveofus on July 05, 2007, 08:18:13 pm
Quote from: "Imaginary Ocean"
Je suis parfaitement bilingue. Je parle correctement français et anglais et vit en Europe. C'est vrai que pour les personnes ne parlant pas français, tu es difficile à comprendre... mais tu traduis littéralement les mots voila pourquoi ça devient parfaoit un peu.. incompréhensible.
 :)


I only understoff half of that.... um lets see let me take a stab at it...


Je sais comment parle francais un pu...wrong....je  vais a le ecole to learn comment parle francais.....again not the best grammar but oh well.
*********************************************

ok so I looked stuff up in my French book and stuff since I have not practised my French in like months so here we go again...


Je sais parler français. Je vais à l'école pour apprendre comment la parler. J'ai seulement pris un an.

I think thats right. It took forever to look up how to get those letters with the accents and the key combos anywho..
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Post by: Imaginary Ocean on July 05, 2007, 09:47:15 pm
Quote from: "itsthefiveofus"
Je sais parler français. Je vais à l'école pour apprendre comment la parler. J'ai seulement pris un an.

I think thats right. It took forever to look up how to get those letters with the accents and the key combos anywho..

Actually it's :
Je sais parler français. Je vais à l'école pour apprendre à LE parler. Je prend des cours depuis un an.

 :wink:
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Post by: Twilight_Angel on July 06, 2007, 02:41:39 am
I took french for three years and i still dont get it. we need a translator!
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Post by: amberbeads on July 06, 2007, 06:31:02 am
Quote from: "Imaginary Ocean"
Je suis parfaitement bilingue. Je parle correctement français et anglais et vit en Europe. C'est vrai que pour les personnes ne parlant pas français, tu es difficile à comprendre... mais tu traduis littéralement les mots voila pourquoi ça devient parfaoit un peu.. incompréhensible.
 :)


it says "i am bilingual, i speak french and english perfectly. for people who don't speak french you [private.radio or whoever] are difficult to understand. you literally translate all your words and it can be a bit incomprehensible."

more or less.
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Post by: itsthefiveofus on July 06, 2007, 06:34:24 am
Quote from: "Imaginary Ocean"
Quote from: "itsthefiveofus"
Je sais parler français. Je vais à l'école pour apprendre comment la parler. J'ai seulement pris un an.

I think thats right. It took forever to look up how to get those letters with the accents and the key combos anywho..

Actually it's :
Je sais parler français. Je vais à l'école pour apprendre à LE parler. Je prend des cours depuis un an.

 :wink:


Thanks.
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Post by: blueglove on July 06, 2007, 05:43:09 pm
Quote from: "NoelleNC"
Quote from: "blueglove"
Quote from: "private-radio"
I love this song but i prefer Nolita Fairytale , Hands on Me
I have a question ! Do you listen "My Best" and Vanessa cries over this song
It will be like Afterglow ??  :D


is english your native language?No offence what the hell?


^ Do you ever smile and laugh, or are you always negative?


i thought it was someone Messing with us.... I think that you have to stop with me... That is just how I type
I am not a cynical person.. but i guess it comes out in my posts
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Post by: Imaginary Ocean on July 07, 2007, 12:24:50 am
Quote from: "amberbeads"
Quote from: "Imaginary Ocean"
Je suis parfaitement bilingue. Je parle correctement français et anglais et vit en Europe. C'est vrai que pour les personnes ne parlant pas français, tu es difficile à comprendre... mais tu traduis littéralement les mots voila pourquoi ça devient parfaoit un peu.. incompréhensible.
 :)


it says "i am bilingual, i speak french and english perfectly. for people who don't speak french you [private.radio or whoever] are difficult to understand. you literally translate all your words and it can be a bit incomprehensible."

more or less.

Hey, you're good !
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Post by: private-radio on July 07, 2007, 01:21:57 am
:o  bravo Imaginary Ocean
 tu trouves le français facile ?
you find French easy?
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Post by: amberbeads on July 07, 2007, 02:36:35 am
Quote from: "Imaginary Ocean"
Quote from: "amberbeads"
Quote from: "Imaginary Ocean"
Je suis parfaitement bilingue. Je parle correctement français et anglais et vit en Europe. C'est vrai que pour les personnes ne parlant pas français, tu es difficile à comprendre... mais tu traduis littéralement les mots voila pourquoi ça devient parfaoit un peu.. incompréhensible.
 :)


it says "i am bilingual, i speak french and english perfectly. for people who don't speak french you [private.radio or whoever] are difficult to understand. you literally translate all your words and it can be a bit incomprehensible."

more or less.

Hey, you're good !

thank you :)
the perks of studying spanish and italian... je ne parle pas réellmente français  :razz:
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Post by: VaderDawsn on July 07, 2007, 10:50:58 am
I really like this song. The lyrics are great.
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Post by: PianoPlayer12 on July 08, 2007, 05:11:05 am
hey steve...for the lyrics...at the end i think its "At least i can say" not at least i can see.

just thought id point that out :)
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Post by: Ghisy on July 08, 2007, 06:26:21 am
Wow, I haven't checked this thread in a few days and it has become like a French topic! ROFL
Je parle Francais aussi, just fyi! ;)

(dang, I'm not the only French person on this board anymore, what the hell?!)
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Post by: PianoPlayer12 on July 08, 2007, 08:32:21 pm
Hey....is anyone able to start working on sheet music for this one, or is the recording to unclear?? :)
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Post by: blueglove on July 10, 2007, 08:59:44 am
Quote from: "NoelleNC"
Ok, so I haven't really picked out any songs lately and I'm kind of shabby, but I figured out at least the basics of the beginning of the song. I don't have sheet music software and I can't easily describe the way it's played, but if you know the chords and play around with it you might get it. Also, feel free to correct me. When she starts singing the verses it's soooo deep that I couldn't make it out :(

Left hand: C/G, Ab/Eb, Bb/Eb
                C/G, Ab/Eb, G/Eb
                C/G, Ab/Eb, Eb/Bb^
                C/G, C/G, C/Eb (The last two might be Bb instead of C)

Right hand: C/G, C/Eb, Bb/Eb
                  C/G, Bb/C, G/Bb
                  C/G, C/F, Eb/Bb^
                  C/G, C/G, C/Eb

Umm, the left hand and right hand lines are played together obviously :) The note that she keeps hitting between them is the Bb.



jsut use the same chords as HOM- But you did a great job ;-)


fools like me intro.pdf (http://www.zshare.net/download/263636121c8bea/)
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Post by: PianoPlayer12 on July 10, 2007, 09:32:06 am
Thanks steve!!! i have just a few things i think i would change/...but i could be completely wrong....

in the 2nd and 4th bar where you go C , G, Ab.....i think it goes Eb, G, Ab.....i think.

also, is the 5th bar, after you play the C and G in the right hand, instead of going down to Ab and Eb....i think its C and F....

tell me what you think, but i could be wrong :)
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Post by: blueglove on July 10, 2007, 01:01:36 pm
Quote from: "PianoPlayer12"
Thanks steve!!! i have just a few things i think i would change/...but i could be completely wrong....

in the 2nd and 4th bar where you go C , G, Ab.....i think it goes Eb, G, Ab.....i think.

also, is the 5th bar, after you play the C and G in the right hand, instead of going down to Ab and Eb....i think its C and F....

tell me what you think, but i could be wrong :)


you are absolutly right... I made it in like ten minutes..... I was not at the piano.. but that is not an excuse... I have fixed the link with the new stuff
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Post by: NoelleNC on July 10, 2007, 01:34:28 pm
I'll be excited when someone transcribes the whole song bc I love this song and would like to learn it... unfortunately she goes pretty low in the verses and I can't sing that low most of the time =\ I think it's her lowest and highest song at once haha.
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Post by: blueglove on July 10, 2007, 01:39:46 pm
I just realized it is in 6/8 and not 3/4 that is why I have not been able to figure this out... So I am working on it... I just got the bridge, and most of the chorus! i have been listening to this so many times, and it was right in front of my face... alriht probably tommorow afternoon
peace
steven
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Post by: NoelleNC on July 10, 2007, 03:09:19 pm
Yeah, I used to be really good about figuring out music by ear, but the past couple years I haven't been doing it much and it's even harder with a bad recording :( Thanks a lot for doing it!
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Post by: PianoPlayer12 on July 10, 2007, 03:13:35 pm
Thanks for working on it Steve....cant wait :)
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Post by: blueglove on July 10, 2007, 03:15:57 pm
why is this so hard... I can not figure out the time signature... I am back and forth from 3/4 tp 6/8 to 12/8
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Post by: PianoPlayer12 on July 10, 2007, 05:07:53 pm
hmmm...well cant you just make different parts of the song different time signatures??
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Post by: blueglove on July 11, 2007, 12:20:06 pm
my finale is being busted, so I am doing it on notepad and that can not be changed....
Title: "Fools Like Me"
Post by: PianoPlayer12 on July 11, 2007, 01:01:58 pm
Quote from: "blueglove"
my finale is being busted, so I am doing it on notepad and that can not be changed....


ooo kk. you think youll have it up today??
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Post by: jfarrell22 on July 13, 2007, 07:41:25 am
Man! I love this song! I hope you can get the sheet music up soon. I'd love to play this one!
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Post by: blueglove on July 15, 2007, 04:50:09 pm
omg guys I have been MIA lately i lost the cord for my laptop... and I only checked my email...
how is it going...
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Post by: VaderDawsn on July 15, 2007, 05:01:27 pm
Quote from: "blueglove"
omg guys I have been MIA lately i lost the cord for my laptop... and I only checked my email...
how is it going...


oh no... I hope your cord gets found. How long does your battery last?
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Post by: KULPDOGG on July 15, 2007, 11:51:21 pm
just for the sake of copy-pasting...




Beware the danger, it lurks for those who get swept away
The dreamers get punished most by the truth
They say it's all in the little ways one reveals their love's gone away
Love's gone away

When my hand was in your hand, my heart was pure
And now I see a different man, rewrite in memories
The dogs run down the beach
And all I'm left with is sand in my shoes
Sand in my shoes

'Cause fools like me
Oh, we love blindly
And the cracks don't count
It's gotta break in front of me

And now I recall the time at the cafe
The thunderstorm outside, words you could never say
They hold the loudest tones
You say alright, but it's ink on a page
Just ink on a page

But, fools like me
Oh, we love blindly
And the cracks don't count
It's gotta break in front of me

And tick tock, the time
Distant look grows in your eyes
And fools never ask, afraid what lurks in your mind

I always knew
Somehow always knew
I always knew the truth

'Cause fools like me
Oh, we never see
And the cracks don't count
It's gotta break in front of me
And it's breakin', it's breakin', it's breakin'

It's gotta break for me to see
At least I can say
I was not afraid
I loved you all the way
And I'd pick the fool any day
Title: "Fools Like Me"
Post by: blueglove on July 16, 2007, 08:56:34 am
Quote from: KULPDOGG
just for the sake of copy-pasting...
Quote

wait why did you move that?
Title: "Fools Like Me"
Post by: KULPDOGG on July 16, 2007, 09:02:08 am
huh? *yeah sorry i wasnt real clear in my post)

i changed a few words, and had the whole song there so people could copy-paste it if they wanted.
Title: "Fools Like Me"
Post by: zurielshimon on July 16, 2007, 10:23:28 am
Quote from: "VaderDawsn"
Quote from: "blueglove"
omg guys I have been MIA lately i lost the cord for my laptop... and I only checked my email...
how is it going...


oh no... I hope your cord gets found. How long does your battery last?


I'm about to have to get a new power adaptor for my laptop because the wires seem to be coming loose up at the end that plugs into the computer.  It's a common problem that stems from poor design.
Title: "Fools Like Me"
Post by: blueglove on July 16, 2007, 10:34:24 am
Quote from: "zurielshimon"
Quote from: "VaderDawsn"
Quote from: "blueglove"
omg guys I have been MIA lately i lost the cord for my laptop... and I only checked my email...
how is it going...


oh no... I hope your cord gets found. How long does your battery last?


I'm about to have to get a new power adaptor for my laptop because the wires seem to be coming loose up at the end that plugs into the computer.  It's a common problem that stems from poor design.


i love my mac's cord... also if anything goes wrong i just get a new one at the store... so yea.... get mac!!!!
Title: "Fools Like Me"
Post by: zurielshimon on July 16, 2007, 12:10:40 pm
Quote from: "blueglove"
Quote from: "zurielshimon"
Quote from: "VaderDawsn"
Quote from: "blueglove"
omg guys I have been MIA lately i lost the cord for my laptop... and I only checked my email...
how is it going...


oh no... I hope your cord gets found. How long does your battery last?


I'm about to have to get a new power adaptor for my laptop because the wires seem to be coming loose up at the end that plugs into the computer.  It's a common problem that stems from poor design.


i love my mac's cord... also if anything goes wrong i just get a new one at the store... so yea.... get mac!!!!


I always get my parts on eBay because Dell charges way too much for parts.  A spare battery? $60!  A power cord? $40!  The little rubber foots on the bottom of the computer?  $12!!!!  What the hell?!?!  For that, I just bought a $2 pack of stick-on foots at Wal-Mart.
Title: "Fools Like Me"
Post by: NoelleNC on July 16, 2007, 05:55:36 pm
For some reason I think it's "words you could never say, they hold the loudest tones", that makes more sense really. It does sound more like she says "see", but I wouldn't be surprised if it ends up being "say". . . unless seeing words has something to do with the "ink on a page"
Title: "Fools Like Me"
Post by: PianoPlayer12 on July 16, 2007, 08:15:56 pm
Quote from: "NoelleNC"
For some reason I think it's "words you could never say, they hold the loudest tones", that makes more sense really. It does sound more like she says "see", but I wouldn't be surprised if it ends up being "say". . . unless seeing words has something to do with the "ink on a page"


i agree with you. I think that it is: words you could never say....and: they hold the loudest tones.
Title: Fools Like Me - someone tape it again please
Post by: NoelleNC on July 18, 2007, 06:24:37 pm
Will someone try to get a better audio recording of this song at one of the upcoming shows? I'd love you forever.
Title: "Fools Like Me"
Post by: WhiteHouses108 on July 18, 2007, 08:20:34 pm
I don't really know if this is any good, but i recorded a video of this.
i don't know how to get the music separate or anything because i am kind of computer illiterate.

here's the vid, though.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNsSRFRtrU8
Title: "Fools Like Me"
Post by: KULPDOGG on July 18, 2007, 08:52:46 pm
Quote from: "WhiteHouses108"
I don't really know if this is any good, but i recorded a video of this.
i don't know how to get the music separate or anything because i am kind of computer illiterate.

here's the vid, though.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNsSRFRtrU8



oh, wow!!!
thank you SO much!!
this is by far the best recording!

I ripped the audio from it. you can download it here:

(right-click, save target as..)

http://nessaholic.googlepages.com/VanessaCarlton-FoolsLikeMev2Live6-30.mp3
Title: "Fools Like Me"
Post by: PianoPlayer12 on July 18, 2007, 09:11:03 pm
thanks sooo much whitehouses108 and kulp. That is an awesome recording :)
Title: "Fools Like Me"
Post by: kaysha on July 19, 2007, 01:03:54 am
Quote from: "WhiteHouses108"
I don't really know if this is any good, but i recorded a video of this.
i don't know how to get the music separate or anything because i am kind of computer illiterate.

here's the vid, though.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNsSRFRtrU8
YOU ARE AWESOME!

THANK YOU!!! =)

-katia
Title: "Fools Like Me"
Post by: NoelleNC on July 19, 2007, 12:55:36 pm
You are my new best friend! However, I can't listen until I get home. I bet it's great though! :)  8)  :lol:
Title: "Fools Like Me"
Post by: Ghisy on July 19, 2007, 02:08:52 pm
Whoa, thanks!
The recording is pretty good and would have been better if people would shut the f* up when Vanessa was playing!  :twisted:
Title: "Fools Like Me"
Post by: VaderDawsn on July 20, 2007, 05:16:25 am
Anyone figure out (or hear from VC) the meter of this song? My friend who is a musician think it might be in 5, after hearing it at the concert last night in NYC. I LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE this song :heart:   :D
Title: "Fools Like Me"
Post by: Rainy night on July 26, 2007, 03:33:10 am
Quote from: "KULPDOGG"
Quote from: "WhiteHouses108"
I don't really know if this is any good, but i recorded a video of this.
i don't know how to get the music separate or anything because i am kind of computer illiterate.

here's the vid, though.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNsSRFRtrU8



oh, wow!!!
thank you SO much!!
this is by far the best recording!

I ripped the audio from it. you can download it here:

(right-click, save target as..)

http://nessaholic.googlepages.com/VanessaCarlton-FoolsLikeMev2Live6-30.mp3


Woooooooooooooooooooo Thank you so much for this!!!  :heart:  I love Fools Like me sooo much!!! I'm so happy!! Lol  :D
Title: "Fools Like Me"
Post by: Dianthus on July 29, 2007, 11:06:45 pm
Has anybody transcribed this song?  :lol:
Can't wait to learn how to play it hehe
Title: "Fools Like Me"
Post by: PianoPlayer12 on July 29, 2007, 11:27:25 pm
Quote from: "Dianthus"
Has anybody transcribed this song?  :lol:
Can't wait to learn how to play it hehe


nope...no one has yet unfortuneately :(
Title: Re: "Fools Like Me"
Post by: bumblebee429 on July 30, 2007, 02:30:48 am
Quote from: "blueglove"
...Now I recall that time at the cafe
The thunderstorm outside
Words you could never say, they hold the loudest tones
You say alright
but it's ink on a page
just ink on a page...


i noticed these incorrect lyrics on the first recording, but wasn't sure. from the new recording i'm definately sure it's "words you could never say", not "which you could never see" (although i quite like the incorrect lyrics :))


xxx Sarah
Title: "Fools Like Me"
Post by: NolitaFairytale on August 01, 2007, 02:00:31 pm
Could the incorrect lyrics maybe be, Words you could never sing?
Title: "Fools Like Me"
Post by: NoelleNC on August 04, 2007, 08:09:09 am
I was thinking it was "words you could never say" too, that makes more sense than saying a thunderstorm has tones you could never "see" - especially since it sounds like she says thunderstorm (singular) and they in reference to the object (plural).
Title: "Fools Like Me"
Post by: cassiemoy on August 20, 2007, 08:35:30 am
what's the clearest recording we have of "fools like me"? is it the one mentioned in this thread?

--EDIT: and never mind. =] i found what i was looking for.
Title: "Fools Like Me"
Post by: hearingballads on August 20, 2007, 02:35:56 pm
she's SUCH an amazing singer-songwriter. I really hope she gets the recognition she deserves. I really hope NOlita fairytale becomes top 10,  better yet top 5. GO VANESSA!!!
Title: music
Post by: pswik91 on August 26, 2007, 08:28:49 pm
So how are the sheets for "Fools Like Me" coming along?  I can't wait to see the finished product :D




-Phil
Title: "Fools Like Me"
Post by: Martin. on August 29, 2007, 12:23:55 pm
Has anybody ripped this one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_HLEF0ONA_k&mode=related&search=

(Apologies in advance if it already has)
Title: "Fools Like Me"
Post by: itsthefiveofus on August 29, 2007, 12:53:32 pm
I think it has from that one show...anyone have the link? You can check in the where do I download in the general section but I do know it has been posted.
Title: "Fools Like Me"
Post by: Martin. on August 29, 2007, 01:04:51 pm
I tried using the search engine for the forum, but it didn't come up with anything. :? Hmm ..
Title: "Fools Like Me"
Post by: itsthefiveofus on August 29, 2007, 01:11:49 pm
Well I can just re uplaod it and give you the link if you want just takes a few minutes.
Title: "Fools Like Me"
Post by: Martin. on August 29, 2007, 01:12:50 pm
Ohh, cheers! 8)
Title: "Fools Like Me"
Post by: itsthefiveofus on August 29, 2007, 01:24:38 pm
It's uploading Had to do something really quick but I will edit this with the link once its done =]
************

ok here it is

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=3JS4F6J2
Title: "Fools Like Me"
Post by: Martin. on August 29, 2007, 01:29:43 pm
Thank you! :D

Much appreciated.
Title: "Fools Like Me"
Post by: itsthefiveofus on August 29, 2007, 03:33:50 pm
No Problem
Title: "Fools Like Me"
Post by: whitehouses81680 on September 01, 2007, 07:13:25 am
do we have sheet music for this song yet?
Title: "Fools Like Me"
Post by: twilightcarnival on September 08, 2007, 09:59:16 pm
niice lyrics :)
Title: "Fools Like Me"
Post by: IfICouldFall on November 23, 2007, 04:00:26 pm
god this song is so relatable to me now... it's kinda scary and i feel so bad because i wasn't the "fool" in this case...  :(
it's so odd now everytime i listen to it.
Title: "Fools Like Me"
Post by: VisioneeringElegance on March 15, 2008, 11:37:48 pm
Anyone know why the credits for FLM aren't given on VC's site, or if they are listed anywhere?

P.S. Sorry for reviving this thread... I couldn't find a newer one about the song. :)
Title: Re: "Fools Like Me"
Post by: ordinary day on July 30, 2008, 08:48:10 am
Quote from: "blueglove"
..............
This song is very emotional, and clearly about her and Stephan. before she played it. she said it sounds like HWBTW

Quote
"Speaking of rock-stars I think it's best not to date them"



...........


can anyone tell me about this stephan??? i'm soooo anxious now  :?
Title: Re: "Fools Like Me"
Post by: Epit on August 14, 2011, 07:25:24 am
I know this topic have had its moment but, who thinks Fools Like Me in "Rabbits era" is much better? Vanessa needs to reinvent more songs!  ;D
Title: Re: "Fools Like Me"
Post by: Martin. on August 14, 2011, 11:46:29 am
I know this topic have had its moment but, who thinks Fools Like Me in "Rabbits era" is much better? Vanessa needs to reinvent more songs!  ;D

Me.

The softer vocals are lovely.
Title: Re: "Fools Like Me"
Post by: beautydivine on August 14, 2011, 11:54:50 am
Aren't the lyrics "You say alright" actually "You say you'll write" ?

This song is so beautifully written, by the way. Does anyone else think it's ironic how Stephan is back-up vocals towards the end?

Title: Re: "Fools Like Me"
Post by: AlexanderLaska on August 14, 2011, 01:38:31 pm
Aren't the lyrics "You say alright" actually "You say you'll write" ?

This song is so beautifully written, by the way. Does anyone else think it's ironic how Stephan is back-up vocals towards the end?



I was wondering who that was (I don't have the booklet so I didn't think to look it up, I just figured it was some random guy).  Baha my friend when she first heard the song was like "is that a MAN on a VANESSA CARLTON song???" lol priceless

@Epit What do you mean?  Is there a recording of her singing the song recently?
Title: Re: "Fools Like Me"
Post by: Epit on August 14, 2011, 10:40:34 pm

@Epit What do you mean?  Is there a recording of her singing the song recently?

She did twice, it think at NY shows.
Title: Re: "Fools Like Me"
Post by: AisforAdrn on August 15, 2011, 01:48:08 pm
Look up Fools Like Me San Francisco Swedish American Music Hall. So amazing.