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Vanessa Carlton => General Vanessa Carlton Discussion => Topic started by: deejay101 on August 22, 2007, 04:37:28 pm

Title: VC sighting!
Post by: deejay101 on August 22, 2007, 04:37:28 pm
Hey ya'll,

I haven't visited these forums in a looooong time, but I just had a Nessa Sighting and I thought I'd pass along the good word.

So here I was, tonight, around 5:20, visiting a friend who lives down on Bleecker Street, right above The Bitter End.  I had to be someplace at 6:00, so I was leaving his place around 5:45, walking down the stairs (it was a short visit), when what do I hear, but a very familiar style of piano, and a very familiar voice.

Sitting in his stairwell, from where you can hear the goings-on inside The Bitter End, I listened for about 2 minutes just to make sure.  The cadences were right, the tone was right, the piano was right.  It had to be Vanessa Carlton.

So, I stepped outside to take a look at the venue's schedule, and peer through the windows at who was playing at the piano.  It was from far away, and she seemed to have shorter hair, but the way she played and the face I saw: it was Vanessa Carlton.  Then, I went to check the venue schedule, but on the flyer it said "Gwen Carlton (6:30)."  Now, I didn't want to sound like an idiot and go up to the box office and ask, "Are Gwen and Vanessa Carlton the same person?" (a novice question, I know).  So, I just stood there listening to her play through the door and windows.  The manager came outside to smoke a cigarette and, though I knew I had someplace to be from 6-8, I asked him how much tickets were for the 6:30 show.  "$7," he replied.  So, either Vanessa's sister sounds exactly like her, or we got the real deal there.

I didn't get to go at 6:30, but just to let ya'll know, she's testing out songs to audiences under the name Gwen Carlton.  She wasn't up for any more shows on the flyer in the future, but these things change.  I know I'll be over at The Bitter End looking for "Gwen Carlton" on their weekly schedules.

I'm excited for her new stuff.  From what I heard, it sounded excellent.
Title: V's sister gwen starting singing career?!?
Post by: Martin. on August 22, 2007, 04:39:55 pm
LOL @ her using her sisters name.

T4P.
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Post by: itsthefiveofus on August 22, 2007, 05:19:23 pm
coolio!
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Post by: IfICouldFall on August 22, 2007, 06:00:23 pm
Hmm very interesting! That's very smart of her to use her sister's name, she's been getting a lot of publicity lately and paps are starting to get a shot of her... very smart V!

In case anyone's interested, Vanessa and Gwen:

(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y99/angelheart56/Gwen052.jpg)
Title: V's sister gwen starting singing career?!?
Post by: PianoPlayer12 on August 22, 2007, 06:25:12 pm
i guess no one was informed quick enough in the NY area to be able to go :(
It would be awesome if someone did ... :)
Title: V's sister gwen starting singing career?!?
Post by: deejay101 on August 22, 2007, 06:34:35 pm
I wish I could have, but I had that school event.  From what I heard of her warm-up/sound check though, sounded good.  It was just her and the piano.  The piano work reminded me a little bit like what was on Papa, kind of rushed and chaotic, but perfectly in tune and on tempo.  I don't know, Papa always kind of reminded me of the eye in a storm for some reason.  But that's what the vibe was from what I heard.
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Post by: willc38 on August 22, 2007, 06:42:45 pm
its too bad you couldn't have gone, 7 bucks is cheap
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Post by: Suicidalboobs on August 22, 2007, 07:26:41 pm
so you don't know what song it was? Interesting.
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Post by: vcfan on August 22, 2007, 08:24:50 pm
ah LUCKY!
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Post by: itsthefiveofus on August 22, 2007, 08:41:13 pm
Wonder what song it was! *shaking fists wanting to know info*
Title: V's sister gwen starting singing career?!?
Post by: KULPDOGG on August 22, 2007, 08:57:25 pm
well it wouldn't surprise me too much if it was Gwen.

it would surprise me moreso if it actually was Vanessa using Gwen's name.


Gwen looks like Vanessa a lot, so I donno..
they can easily be mistaken from a distance.

here's her facebook profile pic:
(http://profile.ak.facebook.com/profile5/755/13/s13805113_899.jpg)
she look's a lot like Vanessa, doesn't she...


is it so crazy to believe it was actually Gwen?


I say i want pictures and audio  :D
Title: V's sister gwen starting singing career?!?
Post by: PianoPlayer12 on August 22, 2007, 09:11:26 pm
Quote from: "KULPDOGG"
well it wouldn't surprise me too much if it was Gwen.


Is gwen a singer too??
Title: V's sister gwen starting singing career?!?
Post by: KULPDOGG on August 22, 2007, 09:29:38 pm
i donno, but on the bitter end's website, it has Gwen Carlton scheduled for 6:30 on August 22nd  :?
Title: V's sister gwen starting singing career?!?
Post by: PianoPlayer12 on August 22, 2007, 09:34:38 pm
hmmmm.....well if it says Gwen Carlton then i guess V's attempt to perform under a different name would be working...
But i dunno...it kinda seems weird she would want to perform under a different name when she hasnt really been put into the spotlight very much at all yet....
i think it probably was really gwen..
Title: V's sister gwen starting singing career?!?
Post by: divasteph on August 22, 2007, 11:01:53 pm
Gwen Carlton Sticks Up For Big Sister Vanessa
Posted on Saturday, January 19 @ 14:43:44 CST by MusicMan - popdirt

Vanessa Carlton's sister Gwen stuck up for her big sister after a negative posting by a fan of Jewel who blasted, "I just saw this chick's video on MTV and she sucks! She is trying to be like Jewel and Michelle Branch... they are so much better than her... and she's never going to make it in the business." Gwen's response...

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Imagine taking three years out of your life to follow a passion. Vanessa dropped everything in her life to follow her music . Her music is who she is, and just by seeing one video of hers and listening to one song, you can only get a slanted oppinion. I highly doubt that you have ever seen her in a club spilling her guts out on the piano, then you can truely realize that this girl is for real. I dont know that you are even going to read this, but dont worry my sister most likely listened to your judgemental comment. There is a part of her that is scared to give her whole self out there into the world and to be getting judged for it. She knows that this is the backlash she gets to show people that there is more to music than Britmey Spears and O Town. People like you who dont even get to see the whole picture will realize that there is more to her than just an image, but there is a heart and passion to her music, and if you are blind to this I would wish that you tried a little harder to see it.
Thankyou for your time
Gwen Carlton
Title: V's sister gwen starting singing career?!?
Post by: divasteph on August 22, 2007, 11:15:21 pm
ps - her lil bro is on facebook too - and he's becoming quite a cutie too
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Post by: PianoPlayer12 on August 23, 2007, 12:25:32 am
Quote from: "divasteph"
Gwen Carlton Sticks Up For Big Sister Vanessa
Posted on Saturday, January 19 @ 14:43:44 CST by MusicMan - popdirt

Vanessa Carlton's sister Gwen stuck up for her big sister after a negative posting by a fan of Jewel who blasted, "I just saw this chick's video on MTV and she sucks! She is trying to be like Jewel and Michelle Branch... they are so much better than her... and she's never going to make it in the business." Gwen's response...

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Imagine taking three years out of your life to follow a passion. Vanessa dropped everything in her life to follow her music . Her music is who she is, and just by seeing one video of hers and listening to one song, you can only get a slanted oppinion. I highly doubt that you have ever seen her in a club spilling her guts out on the piano, then you can truely realize that this girl is for real. I dont know that you are even going to read this, but dont worry my sister most likely listened to your judgemental comment. There is a part of her that is scared to give her whole self out there into the world and to be getting judged for it. She knows that this is the backlash she gets to show people that there is more to music than Britmey Spears and O Town. People like you who dont even get to see the whole picture will realize that there is more to her than just an image, but there is a heart and passion to her music, and if you are blind to this I would wish that you tried a little harder to see it.
Thankyou for your time
Gwen Carlton


Ya i read that a really long time ago...but aneways, that was soo nice of her to do :)
Title: V's sister gwen starting singing career?!?
Post by: whitehouses81680 on August 23, 2007, 04:24:37 am
the facebook picture and the picture with her and vanessa really don't look the same at all.
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Post by: rosieposy87 on August 23, 2007, 12:51:50 pm
They look so similar! I remember when I first met her PA, I asked if she was Gwen and she just laughed so much!
Title: V's sister gwen starting singing career?!?
Post by: blueglove on August 23, 2007, 01:18:32 pm
Quote from: "KULPDOGG"
well it wouldn't surprise me too much if it was Gwen.

it would surprise me moreso if it actually was Vanessa using Gwen's name.


Gwen looks like Vanessa a lot, so I donno..
they can easily be mistaken from a distance.

here's her facebook profile pic:
(http://profile.ak.facebook.com/profile5/755/13/s13805113_899.jpg)
she look's a lot like Vanessa, doesn't she...


is it so crazy to believe it was actually Gwen?


I say i want pictures and audio  :D


 I know from the ithica show, she was there, She was kinda bigger than vanessa- Vanessa is slim, and toned.. Her sister is more... full
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Post by: portions.for.foxes on August 23, 2007, 04:06:03 pm
Haha, Vanessa knows that if she plays new material at a show using her name it'll get end up being recorded by one of us and distributed on the internet.

Maybe that's why she really hasn't been playing any new material aside from Fools Like Me.

I'm curious as to how she feels about the bootleg's concerning the new material floating around now.

She's probably all, "Uh-uh, fuck them, this is not getting leaked out." lol
Title: V's sister gwen starting singing career?!?
Post by: wickednig18384 on August 23, 2007, 06:52:35 pm
i went on nyc's "the bitter end" website and to my surprise, under august 22, 2007, it says:

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Wednesday August 22nd
Gwen Carlton (6:30)
Drew Brodys Basket House Acoustic Folk Series(Free)
---plus---
Katie Lock
Von Sway


is this v's sister? i googled "gwen carlton" and came up with all vanessa related stuff. just wondering if anyone knew anything. thanks :D
http://www.bitterend.com/schedule.html go there and look under aug 22
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Post by: Martin. on August 23, 2007, 06:55:36 pm
Apparently, it's because Vanessa is testing new songs out to new audiences and wants to see how it goes first or something like that.
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Post by: KULPDOGG on August 23, 2007, 08:09:53 pm
Quote from: "Hazy Eyes"
Apparently, it's because Vanessa is testing new songs out to new audiences and wants to see how it goes first or something like that.


actually, we don;t have any info on it, so it's best not to assume.


http://forum.nessaholics.com/viewtopic.php?t=10702
read that thread^
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Post by: PianoPlayer12 on August 23, 2007, 10:04:12 pm
ya we dont know if it really is gwen or if it actually V testing songs....well have to be on the look out for more gwen carlton performances...
Title: V's sister gwen starting singing career?!?
Post by: kaysha on August 24, 2007, 03:55:17 am
that's a good question... i dunno if she would really be using a different name to attempt to hide from "us" though... us booting her shows is really the least of her worries (in my opinion).  I think about it this way...

She has a guaranteed sale of her album with all of us, if not multiple copies.

She has a guaranteed promotion by word of mouth from all of us.

There is really no "harm" in us hearing the new material.. the audio recordings generally out there are not super great and multiple versions of the same song just interest us even more.  Look at Kulp and his multiple versions of Nolita Fairytale fun :)

If i had to guess the reason she shys away from bootlegs is she seems to be a perfectionist and doesn't want audio recordings out there that are less than perfect for general consumption... I also think if she was going to perform under another name she would use one other than her sisters... clearly it didn't take long for us to be chattering about her potential performance :)

Maybe Gwen really is getting into something and/or perhaps Vanessa was just playing piano with Gwen?

Even on the other albums she always kept a few songs for the album and didn't perform them live.  We also don't know if it was new material or just the same songs we've already heard... just lots of speculation.

-katia
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Post by: rosieposy87 on August 24, 2007, 05:44:06 am
Quote from: "kaysha"
that's a good question... i dunno if she would really be using a different name to attempt to hide from "us" though... us booting her shows is really the least of her worries (in my opinion).  I think about it this way...

She has a guaranteed sale of her album with all of us, if not multiple copies.

She has a guaranteed promotion by word of mouth from all of us.

There is really no "harm" in us hearing the new material.. the audio recordings generally out there are not super great and multiple versions of the same song just interest us even more.  Look at Kulp and his multiple versions of Nolita Fairytale fun :)

If i had to guess the reason she shys away from bootlegs is she seems to be a perfectionist and doesn't want audio recordings out there that are less than perfect for general consumption... I also think if she was going to perform under another name she would use one other than her sisters... clearly it didn't take long for us to be chattering about her potential performance :)

Maybe Gwen really is getting into something and/or perhaps Vanessa was just playing piano with Gwen?

Even on the other albums she always kept a few songs for the album and didn't perform them live.  We also don't know if it was new material or just the same songs we've already heard... just lots of speculation.

-katia


All of this is SO true. There is no truly logical reason why Vanessa would play under Gwen's name. Kaysha, I think you're right in saying that bootlegs are the last thing on her mind!

We have already established that Gwen and Vanessa look very similar, and so it's hardly surprising that Gwen might have a similar voice to Vanessa.

It's also quite probable that Vanessa has helped Gwen to play in the places she used to- i.e the Bitter End.

My guess is that it's fairly straightforward0 Gwen Carlton is actually playing in the Bitter End.
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Post by: blueglove on August 24, 2007, 08:18:30 pm
gwen is a communications major.. IDK if the music thing is really in her path... idk just an oppinion
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Post by: KULPDOGG on August 25, 2007, 05:14:43 pm
WE HAVE CONFIRMATION!!!!!!

from Gwen's own facebook blog.

-------------------------------------
FIRST SHOW IN NYCShare
3:34pm Sunday, Aug 12


So I have my first show its going to be great!!!
Just me and the piano.

THE SHOW:
August 22nd (wednesday)

The Bitter End (w. village on Bleecker)

@ 6 30

If you feel like unwinding with a drink, getting cozy, and listening to some good music after a hard days work, you should definitely check it out.

always!
Gwen




so, yes!
it was Gwen!
I feel like such a stalker for friend requesting her on facebook, but apparently she doesn't care cause she accepted, lol.
edit: oooo, her birthday's 1 day after mine... cool =)
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Post by: Martin. on August 25, 2007, 05:27:32 pm
GO GWEN!

Edit: I wonder if Vanessa will be there to cheer her on?
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Post by: PianoPlayer12 on August 25, 2007, 05:29:52 pm
Hmmm...im interested to see what she sounds like...:)
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Post by: charmedguy18 on August 25, 2007, 05:38:37 pm
Quote from: "PianoPlayer12"
Hmmm...im interested to see what she sounds like...:)

Well I read in another post somewhere that she sounds just like V. lol I hope not.
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Post by: PianoPlayer12 on August 25, 2007, 06:27:03 pm
she sent me a message on facebook with her myspace:

http://www.myspace.com/gwencarlton

there it is... i dont think she sounds exactly V.....there are a few words here and there where she reminds me of V...but i dont think they sounds similar....
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Post by: Martin. on August 25, 2007, 06:32:49 pm
Wow, I definetley hear Vanessa in her voice, but the music (piano & vocals) are really different.

Interesting.
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Post by: kaysha on August 25, 2007, 06:42:10 pm
wow!

nice find Andrew!  I'm glad we sorta have this settled ;)  You're only a mini-stalker :P

It's very cool to get to hear Gwen on piano and singing as well!  She does seem to have a different style than Vanessa.

also, thanks for the myspace addy.  glad she set one up... she doesn't have many friends yet... Vanessa needs to put her in her top8!

-katia
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Post by: itsthefiveofus on August 25, 2007, 06:46:38 pm
I agree.
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Post by: kaysha on August 25, 2007, 06:51:22 pm
Quote from: "rosieposy87"
My guess is that it's fairly straightforward- Gwen Carlton is actually playing in the Bitter End.
Exactly.  And we have a winner :)  Looks like Gwen was playing at The Bitter End... heh.  Nicely done Rosie.

-katia
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Post by: PianoPlayer12 on August 25, 2007, 06:57:00 pm
Quote from: "kaysha"
thanks for the myspace addy.  glad she set one up... she doesn't have many friends yet... Vanessa needs to put her in her top8!
-katia


No prob. ya i was glad to see she even replied to my message...i didnt think she would...i thought she'd just think i was some crazy VC fan trying to get in contact to VC through her...(which i wasnt.lol).
and ya i agree. V should add her to her top 8...

i think it'd be interesting to hear a Gwen and Vanessa duet...
Title: V's sister gwen starting singing career?!?
Post by: kaysha on August 25, 2007, 07:06:45 pm
Quote from: "PianoPlayer12"
Quote from: "kaysha"
thanks for the myspace addy.  glad she set one up... she doesn't have many friends yet... Vanessa needs to put her in her top8!
-katia


No prob. ya i was glad to see she even replied to my message...i didnt think she would...i thought she'd just think i was some crazy VC fan trying to get in contact to VC through her...(which i wasnt.lol).
and ya i agree. V should add her to her top 8...

i think it'd be interesting to hear a Gwen and Vanessa duet...
I am kinda curious what Gwen's plan is.  Is she going down the path of having a music career perhaps?  Or is she just using this as a creative escape for a while...

she seems quite talented on the piano though.

-katia
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Post by: PianoPlayer12 on August 25, 2007, 07:21:12 pm
Quote from: "kaysha"
Quote from: "PianoPlayer12"
Quote from: "kaysha"
thanks for the myspace addy.  glad she set one up... she doesn't have many friends yet... Vanessa needs to put her in her top8!
-katia


No prob. ya i was glad to see she even replied to my message...i didnt think she would...i thought she'd just think i was some crazy VC fan trying to get in contact to VC through her...(which i wasnt.lol).
and ya i agree. V should add her to her top 8...

i think it'd be interesting to hear a Gwen and Vanessa duet...
I am kinda curious what Gwen's plan is.  Is she going down the path of having a music career perhaps?  Or is she just using this as a creative escape for a while...

she seems quite talented on the piano though.

-katia


Yes i sent a message back asking her what her plans are for her music career...when she replies ill tell you guys what she said... :)
Title: V's sister gwen starting singing career?!?
Post by: kaysha on August 25, 2007, 07:24:58 pm
Quote from: "PianoPlayer12"
Yes i sent a message back asking her what her plans are for her music career...when she replies ill tell you guys what she said... :)
lol, i was hoping you had.  thanks!
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Post by: PianoPlayer12 on August 25, 2007, 07:27:45 pm
Quote from: "kaysha"
Quote from: "PianoPlayer12"
Yes i sent a message back asking her what her plans are for her music career...when she replies ill tell you guys what she said... :)
lol, i was hoping you had.  thanks!


No problem...it'll prbably take her a few days to reply....but when she does ill be sure to  tell ya guys....|
he do you know what her brothers facebook is?? i looked up Edmond(is it edmond??lol i dunno but i remember i put the right name in cuz i googled it..lol) Carlton and he didnt come up..
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Post by: All I Ask2003 on August 25, 2007, 07:28:22 pm
TOTALLY unrelated, but has anyone ever tried searching her brother on MySpace?
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Post by: KULPDOGG on August 25, 2007, 07:38:11 pm
wow, her music sounds really good =)

a lot of potential.
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Post by: joey on August 25, 2007, 07:47:29 pm
Its sounds a bit like Vanessa "Meggie Sue"ish.... "Little Mary"ish... But does have more of a Regina Spektor tinge...

i'm actually not surprised ... seeing that Heidi Carlton was a piano teacher...


Ow and theres a pic of Maggie....(when first plays)
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Post by: Alli on August 25, 2007, 07:50:58 pm
I'm not crazy about Gwen. I think she's a talented pianist, but needs a vocal coach, although she has an excellent voice and could go far. Same thing with 'nessa, how she puts feeling into her voice.

However, I think that VC has progressed a long way voice-way as well... I agree with PianoPlayer that I'd LOVE to here a V&G duet.
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Post by: KULPDOGG on August 25, 2007, 08:10:59 pm
for anyone not able to add her as a myspace friend:
here's the link:
http://collect.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=invite.addfriend_verify&friendID=234387275

cause I know I was having trouble figuring it out (it wouldn't let me click anything)
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Post by: Dancernl on August 25, 2007, 08:11:24 pm
I grew up with one of her myspace friends.  True story.


I'm not really digging Unfinished, but the other two are pretty good.  Did anyone go to her show?
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Post by: Ghisy on August 26, 2007, 12:26:11 am
I asked her for a friend request as well.
I hope I don't come out as a stalker, seeing that my profile picture is a pic with V! haha  :oops:

edit: hmmm, her piano sounds pretty good but I think she needs more training with her voice.
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Post by: Martin. on August 26, 2007, 04:46:39 am
Quote from: "KULPDOGG"
for anyone not able to add her as a myspace friend:
here's the link:
http://collect.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=invite.addfriend_verify&friendID=234387275

cause I know I was having trouble figuring it out (it wouldn't let me click anything)


Cheers.
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Post by: IfICouldFall on August 26, 2007, 04:50:06 am
Hehe she played Doctor Gradus ad Parnassum as the 2nd song and you can hear V playing it in V's PLeased to Meet You! haha  :)
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Post by: Martin. on August 26, 2007, 04:52:53 am
Quote from: "IfICouldFall"
Hehe she played Doctor Gradus ad Parnassum as the 2nd song and you can hear V playing it in V's PLeased to Meet You! haha  :)


Lol, I thought it sounded familiar.
Title: Gwen Carlton, NOT Vanessa
Post by: LennyLovesNessa on August 26, 2007, 01:36:52 pm
Ok, after seeing a couple topics about "Gwen Carlton" playing at some place in NYC, I'd like to say that I really don't think it was Vanessa... because Gwen does seem to be trying to get into the music industry. She sings and plays the piano just like Vanessa. Check out www.myspace.com/gwencarlton, you can check out all her songs and stuff. Just thought I'd share the info with everyone  :wink:
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Post by: LennyLovesNessa on August 26, 2007, 02:20:56 pm
NEVERMIND, I just realised this is a vey well known fact =P
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Post by: PianoPlayer12 on August 26, 2007, 02:50:33 pm
Hey Everyone...she told me that right now she is planless...she is just following her need to sing and write.
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Post by: Ghisy on August 26, 2007, 02:51:24 pm
I PMed her on myspace and was surprised to see she replied very quickly.
She seems like a nice person. :)
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Post by: PianoPlayer12 on August 26, 2007, 02:52:15 pm
Heres a pic of Va nd gwen from Gwen's facebook"

(http://photos-d.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sf2p/v18/251/106/13805113/n13805113_30237767_1663.jpg)
Title: V's sister gwen starting singing career?!?
Post by: Martin. on August 26, 2007, 03:01:43 pm
How old is Gwen?
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Post by: PianoPlayer12 on August 26, 2007, 03:17:01 pm
she turned 28 in April...well thats according to her facebook..
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Post by: Martin. on August 26, 2007, 03:19:58 pm
Wow, I didn't think she was older than Vanessa.

Thanks!
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Post by: equeen1022 on August 26, 2007, 04:58:45 pm
Quote from: "Hazy Eyes"
Wow, I didn't think she was older than Vanessa.

Thanks!


Neither did I. She sounds much younger, like in her teens.
Title: V's sister gwen starting singing career?!?
Post by: itsthefiveofus on August 26, 2007, 05:49:20 pm
omg thats what I thought too!!!!
Title: V's sister gwen starting singing career?!?
Post by: Nessaholista on August 27, 2007, 12:59:53 am
Gwen is older?

But Wikipedia says: "she has two younger siblings, a sister
named Gwen..."
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Post by: zurielshimon on August 27, 2007, 09:36:56 am
Her blog (http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=234387275&blogID=303949911) says 23.
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Post by: Ghisy on August 27, 2007, 09:43:01 am
She's 23, her Facebook says she was born in 1984.
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Post by: Nessaholista on August 27, 2007, 10:12:39 am
so, the others told it wrong...  8O
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Post by: PianoPlayer12 on August 27, 2007, 10:23:06 am
SORRY....that was just bad math on my part....LMAO>
Title: V's sister gwen starting singing career?!?
Post by: Martin. on August 27, 2007, 11:02:17 am
Lol, she doesn't look/sound older than Vanessa.

Thanks for clearing it up.
Title: V's sister gwen starting singing career?!?
Post by: BWilli on August 27, 2007, 11:56:04 am
Quote from: "Dancernl"
I'm not really digging Unfinished, but the other two are pretty good.  Did anyone go to her show?


i didnt like Unfinished either...

Quote from: "KULPDOGG"
for anyone not able to add her as a myspace friend:
here's the link:
http://collect.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=invite.addfriend_verify&friendID=234387275

cause I know I was having trouble figuring it out (it wouldn't let me click anything)


hmmm...cant click on anything either..wonder why...

Quote from: "PianoPlayer12"
Heres a pic of Va nd gwen from Gwen's facebook"

(http://photos-d.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sf2p/v18/251/106/13805113/n13805113_30237767_1663.jpg)


she doesn't quite look like this in her myspace pic...looks like she has slimmed down.
Title: V's sister gwen starting singing career?!?
Post by: nolitafairytale2007 on August 27, 2007, 08:36:00 pm
I've been a V fan for a long time and absolutely love her but I don't think it's fair to compare the sisters and imply one is better than the other. Both Vanessa and her sister Gwen are truly beautiful and talented women. It is true that they have similarities but they also have very different styles.  :D
Title: V's sister gwen starting singing career?!?
Post by: tylor2000 on August 27, 2007, 09:12:11 pm
Quote from: "nolitafairytale2007"
I've been a V fan for a long time and absolutely love her but I don't think it's fair to compare the sisters and imply one is better than the other. Both Vanessa and her sister Gwen are truly beautiful and talented women. It is true that they have similarities but they also have very different styles.  :D


Wow, she is going to have 18953 myspace friends by tomorrow. LOL j/k  I've never had a facebook before.  I'm interested to see what her songs will turn out like.  I'm always interested in the development of people and their talents.
Title: V's sister gwen starting singing career?!?
Post by: zurielshimon on August 27, 2007, 10:05:19 pm
I, too, was having trouble using any of the links on her myspace page using Internet Explorer.  I had to use the TaB key to get to any of them.  I don't seem to be having that problem in Mozilla Firefox, however.  I highly recommend Firefox, anyway. :D
Title: V's sister gwen starting singing career?!?
Post by: NoelleNC on August 28, 2007, 02:41:55 pm
I think "Desert" sounds the most like V on her myspace page, but I don't really think they sound that much alike on the other songs.

Her lyrics are a LOT more meandering and hard to follow haha.
Title: V's sister gwen starting singing career?!?
Post by: tylor2000 on August 28, 2007, 03:23:17 pm
I know what it is like to be referenced as the younger brother of Mike.  I had friends who were always referenced by their older brothers instead of their own identity.  It is as if your own identity is subject to someone else's.  It's not a good feeling.  It's as if you become more of a reference than a real person.

"Oh, that is Tylor, Mikes younger brother."

"That is Mike's younger brother"

"Oh, I'm sorry, you're Mike's younger brother, aren't you?"

People tend to use the reference rather than, "Oh hello Tylor.  How are you today?"

It sucks when people are always referring to you or addressing you in the second person, rather than the first person, all the time.
Title: V's sister gwen starting singing career?!?
Post by: NoelleNC on August 28, 2007, 03:58:53 pm
^ I'm confused! Gwen is not here for us to say hello to. And this is a Vanessa Carlton forum, and a thread in which someone thought that Gwen WAS Vanessa in "disguise". I mean, Gwen is now doing what Vanessa has been doing for years. It's not as if she is trying to be a champion swimmer and we are comparing her to Vanessa. If I had a famous musical brother or sister and I followed in their footsteps by trying to get into music, I'd personally expect the comparisons!

We aren't demeaning Gwen's individuality, it's just that our reference point on this matter is, undeniably, Vanessa Carlton.
Title: V's sister gwen starting singing career?!?
Post by: tylor2000 on August 28, 2007, 04:48:46 pm
Quote from: "NoelleNC"
^ I'm confused! Gwen is not here for us to say hello to. And this is a Vanessa Carlton forum, and a thread in which someone thought that Gwen WAS Vanessa in "disguise". I mean, Gwen is now doing what Vanessa has been doing for years. It's not as if she is trying to be a champion swimmer and we are comparing her to Vanessa. If I had a famous musical brother or sister and I followed in their footsteps by trying to get into music, I'd personally expect the comparisons!

We aren't demeaning Gwen's individuality, it's just that our reference point on this matter is, undeniably, Vanessa Carlton.


I was just stating I understand that point of view.  nolitafairytale2007, just made me start thinking about that.  

I should just stop posting is what I really should do.
Title: V's sister gwen starting singing career?!?
Post by: Boy of Summer on August 28, 2007, 06:37:45 pm
i think gwen is FAB
Title: V's sister gwen starting singing career?!?
Post by: NoelleNC on August 28, 2007, 07:40:13 pm
Quote from: "tylor2000"
Quote from: "NoelleNC"
^ I'm confused! Gwen is not here for us to say hello to. And this is a Vanessa Carlton forum, and a thread in which someone thought that Gwen WAS Vanessa in "disguise". I mean, Gwen is now doing what Vanessa has been doing for years. It's not as if she is trying to be a champion swimmer and we are comparing her to Vanessa. If I had a famous musical brother or sister and I followed in their footsteps by trying to get into music, I'd personally expect the comparisons!

We aren't demeaning Gwen's individuality, it's just that our reference point on this matter is, undeniably, Vanessa Carlton.


I was just stating I understand that point of view.  nolitafairytale2007, just made me start thinking about that.  

I should just stop posting is what I really should do.


Nah, you should just preface what you say with what made you think of it if you think someone might be confused as to who you are responding to!
Title: V's sister gwen starting singing career?!?
Post by: divasteph on August 29, 2007, 06:41:25 am
ok, guilty confession (um, hope she isn't reading)

.... i added gwen on myspace....

then all of the sudden (few days later) she leave me a comment saying she likes my music and thanks for making her a top friend...
and i never added her as a top friend???

so, i look at my top friends and something really weird has happened myspace had added like 3 really random people to my top list.
so, now i feel guilty and i actually added her and added 3 more musicans that are friends of mine to my list.

I mean I like her music - i just wouldnt normally add someone so quickly to my list and 98% of my top friends list are friends of mine that i love their music.
Title: V's sister gwen starting singing career?!?
Post by: Boy of Summer on August 29, 2007, 07:04:15 am
UMMBERRRRZ!

Im tellin'!





:)
Title: V's sister gwen starting singing career?!?
Post by: itsthefiveofus on August 29, 2007, 03:41:38 pm
Quote
Hey guys!

Got another gig in the city!

Next thursday (sept.6) @ 7:00 at the Living Room (address is on my page...just click on it.)

Cant believe that next week is the beg of sept??? how does time fly like that???

Anyways hope to see you guys out next week!!!! :-)
The more the merrier!

xoxo
g

p.s. I will try and get Baby Bush together by then hehe.




that was on a bulliten on myspace.
Title: V's sister gwen starting singing career?!?
Post by: nolitafairytale2007 on August 29, 2007, 03:57:06 pm
I understand that comparisons between the two are inevitable (especially this being a Vanessa forum) but I just think it would be more respectful if we abstained form saying things like one is better than the other. After all it's already going to be hard enough for her to escape Vanessa's shadow wherever she goes. It was probably hard for her to even make the decision to pursue this new dream of hers...I'm sure she anticipated and was not looking towards the comparisons. I completely understand because I have a twin sister and we get scrutinized by strangers all the time. If they say your sister is better you feel bad...and if they say you're better you still feel bad. Anyway...that's just my humble opinion.

All I say is more power to both sisters! I LOVE V but I'm open to giving Gwen's music a chance too!
Title: V's sister gwen starting singing career?!?
Post by: All I Ask2003 on August 29, 2007, 04:54:11 pm
Anyone else notice that Gwen cut out Vanessa in the picture of her together?
Title: V's sister gwen starting singing career?!?
Post by: soupdujour on August 29, 2007, 09:25:02 pm
Maybe she performed under Gwen Carlton because she figured if she used her real name, nobody would want to go see her?
Title: V's sister gwen starting singing career?!?
Post by: marxu on August 29, 2007, 10:46:39 pm
Quote from: "soupdujour"
Maybe she performed under Gwen Carlton because she figured if she used her real name, nobody would want to go see her?

Do you really think so? It doesn't make any sense..V is a well-known musician and i think there are many people who would love to see her performing..besides, has she ever given a concert to an empty hall?!
It's great that Gwen is performing, because she has a lot of potential as a musician, but it's definately harder for her..maybe that's why she cut V out - she wants people to like her (and her music) because of herself not just because she's V's sister. pshhhh..so confusing =/
Title: V's sister gwen starting singing career?!?
Post by: NoelleNC on August 30, 2007, 08:44:51 am
I don't feel bad saying that I prefer Vanessa's music compared to the songs of Gwen's that are on her myspace right now. Just as I'd critique any artist, it's not rude to say that Gwen has potential but needs some serious vocal training if she wants to go farther in the music business. It's true! No need to sugar coat!
Title: V's sister gwen starting singing career?!?
Post by: Ghisy on August 30, 2007, 09:11:06 am
Quote from: "soupdujour"
Maybe she performed under Gwen Carlton because she figured if she used her real name, nobody would want to go see her?

Hold on for a minute there: Gwen is Vanessa's sister so her last name is also Carlton, right?
I'm confused by your statement.  :?
Title: V's sister gwen starting singing career?!?
Post by: Twilight_Angel on August 30, 2007, 10:02:15 am
oooh, she can sing quite well =] i was expecting her voice to be similar to Vanessa's but its completely different. Not as good of course but still nice =]
Title: V's sister gwen starting singing career?!?
Post by: soupdujour on August 30, 2007, 10:15:39 am
Quote from: "Ghisy"
Quote from: "soupdujour"
Maybe she performed under Gwen Carlton because she figured if she used her real name, nobody would want to go see her?

Hold on for a minute there: Gwen is Vanessa's sister so her last name is also Carlton, right?
I'm confused by your statement.  :?


Just ask Cheryl Tweedy
Title: V's sister gwen starting singing career?!?
Post by: Steveau on August 30, 2007, 02:48:12 pm
Her singing isn't quite on the same level as Vanessa's but her piano is pretty close. Singing can be improved with practice so it isn't like something that can't get fixed. She's not Sanjaya at least!
Title: V's sister gwen starting singing career?!?
Post by: Epit on August 31, 2007, 03:00:54 am
can s0me0ne upl0ad here s0ngs here? i can't listen them fr0m her MySpace..
Title: V's sister gwen starting singing career?!?
Post by: whitehouses81680 on August 31, 2007, 03:55:48 pm
i think she's adorable!
i love DESERT
Title: MP3
Post by: Lívia_Chasez on December 26, 2007, 01:59:41 pm
■ Gwen Carlton - SNOW

You should know
I love licking my spoon and drinking Beth's wine
I love eating raw dough at christmas time
I only use my phone if drunk or alone
It's not smart I know

But I feel hope when I see the snow
And you can love me or let me go
Before you make up your mind you should know

I'm alive at 23 luckily
Totalled three cars already I'm so sorry
And I've traveled the world but secretly...
never wanted to leave these pennsylvania trees

And I feel hope when I see that snow
And you can love me or let me go
Before you make up your mind you should know

On the subject of love I am quite dumb
I never love the ones that love
only ever loved the one
and the one just wants fun

Hard to believe in just one
Hard to believe that there's one
But I do
I still do

And now if you believe in me I do thank you
'cause sometimes I have trouble believing too
And if you do believe in me I do thank you
'cause sometimes I do have trouble believing too

But I still hope when I see that snow
That he will love me before we go
I love how the snow can make me hope
Title: Re: MP3
Post by: cassiemoy on December 26, 2007, 02:11:38 pm
Quote from: "Lívia_Chasez"
■ Gwen Carlton - SNOW
http://www.badongo.com/file/7000518


hey thanks. :D

i feel a heavy respekt influence?
Title: V's sister gwen starting singing career?!?
Post by: Martin. on December 26, 2007, 05:15:49 pm
this "Snow" song is niiiiice!
Title: Re: MP3
Post by: Lívia_Chasez on December 26, 2007, 05:29:38 pm
Quote from: "fish_for__stars"


hey thanks. :D

i feel a heavy respekt influence?


Haha..whatever u mean.. :lol:  
Gwen Carlton is awesome!!
I just cant get enough of her songs.
Title: Re: MP3
Post by: cassiemoy on December 26, 2007, 08:54:47 pm
Quote from: "Lívia_Chasez"
Quote from: "fish_for__stars"


hey thanks. :D

i feel a heavy respekt influence?


Haha..whatever u mean.. :lol:  
Gwen Carlton is awesome!!
I just cant get enough of her songs.


i mean regina spektor. :] yeah?
Title: Re: MP3
Post by: Lívia_Chasez on December 26, 2007, 09:32:18 pm
Quote from: "fish_for__stars"
Quote from: "Lívia_Chasez"
Quote from: "fish_for__stars"


hey thanks. :D

i feel a heavy respekt influence?


Haha..whatever u mean.. :lol:  
Gwen Carlton is awesome!!
I just cant get enough of her songs.


i mean regina spektor. :] yeah?


Gosh..everyone is saying that!! haha  8O
I guess I'll have to listen to that one artist so that I can understand y..lol
But Gwen is so unique that the only artist I can think of when I listen to her songs is Bjork..hehe (go figure..)
Title: Re: MP3
Post by: Lívia_Chasez on December 26, 2007, 10:08:32 pm
Quote from: "Lívia_Chasez"
Quote from: "fish_for__stars"


i mean regina spektor. :] yeah?


Gosh..everyone is saying that!! haha  8O
I guess I'll have to listen to that one artist so that I can understand y..lol
But Gwen is so unique that the only artist I can think of when I listen to her songs is Bjork..hehe (go figure..)


Wow..I've just listened to Spektor's 'Begin to Hope' album and ok..I think what u guys've been saying is like 35% true..haha

But honestly, Spektor reminds me A LOT of Maria Mena.
Would that be to the contrary, maybe? idk
All is know is that I should have been listening to Regina Spektor a loong time ago..lol

Ohh..I still prefer Gwen's songs though.  :lol:
Title: Re: MP3
Post by: Epit on December 27, 2007, 09:24:06 am
Quote from: "Lívia_Chasez"
■ Gwen Carlton - SNOW
http://www.badongo.com/file/7000518


Thanks! ♥
Title: Re: MP3
Post by: AisforAdrn on December 28, 2007, 01:36:37 am
Quote from: "DrSyaFiQ"
Quote from: "Lívia_Chasez"
■ Gwen Carlton - SNOW
http://www.badongo.com/file/7000518


Thanks! ♥



THANK YOU. I 'VE BEEN LOOKING FOR THIS EVERRRRRYYYWHERE!
Title: V's sister gwen starting singing career?!?
Post by: Journey_to on December 29, 2007, 01:38:40 am
Note that you can now buy songs off her myspace...
Title: V's sister gwen starting singing career?!?
Post by: craft on December 29, 2007, 06:21:43 am
I think she is getting comparisons to Regina Spektor because she sings about abstract and weird things like eating cookie dough and stuff. Regina's "That Time" is the same way as "Snow". Has anybody heard "Reading Time With Pickle"? That song by Regina is crazy.
Title: V's sister gwen starting singing career?!?
Post by: VanessaCarltonMania on December 29, 2007, 07:38:33 am
Quote from: "Hazy Eyes"
this "Snow" song is niiiiice!

Yeah, it's awesome!!
It's like so innocent...like a little kid :lol:
At least that's what i thought of when i heard her voice and the words :razz:
Title: V's sister gwen starting singing career?!?
Post by: VanessaCarltonMania on December 29, 2007, 07:43:10 am
Quote from: "craft"
I think she is getting comparisons to Regina Spektor because she sings about abstract and weird things like eating cookie dough and stuff. Regina's "That Time" is the same way as "Snow". Has anybody heard "Reading Time With Pickle"? That song by Regina is crazy.


YEAH!!! I was just checking out her site today cause I wanted to hear some of her songs other than Fidelity (which i am addicted to now!!!) and I came across that one!!!
It is sooo funnyyy!!!!!
But the way she sings it, she sounds so serious!!!  8O  :o  :lol:  :lol:

my fav part is :
But pickle jars are just pickle jars and pickles are just pickles, ingredients:water, salt, cucumber, garlic and pickling spice....


A little off topic...but I never knew that there's garlic in pickles...I LOVE PICKLES!!!! YUMMM!!!!!!
Title: V's sister gwen starting singing career?!?
Post by: Martin. on December 29, 2007, 09:31:49 am
Does Gwen browse this forum?

I just read her blog about someone ripping "Snow" & posting it for others to download, and it got me thinking...
Title: V's sister gwen starting singing career?!?
Post by: Lívia_Chasez on December 29, 2007, 02:17:18 pm
Quote
Saturday, December 29, 2007
     

my songs are buyable?

It's the first day back after the ranch... this is always a tough day, it's like having to wake up after having the greatest dream I have ever had...
I always wish I could just fall back asleep and keep living in dream land.

Today I found out that snow was "hacked" and somehow downloadable by a different sight on the net and leaked 23 times... so I decided to take matters into my own hands and make my songs downloadable and buyable. I figured I couldn't really be upset about the leak... since I hadn't made it possible to buy. But now it is, so buy it pleeease :)

and to the guy/girl that hacked my song: I am flattered that you liked my stuff enough to hack into, but pleease buy it this time or send me a message that you want the song.

thanks for your support!!!!!!

xoxo
Gwen



So, I decided to edit my post with the song 'Snow' now that Gwen's songs are buyable and downloadable at Gwen's own page and I think she's right not to be upset about what happended, since there was no other way for plp to get the songs however and I really think she should record a demo and sell it as well!!   :D
Title: V's sister gwen starting singing career?!?
Post by: Butz on December 29, 2007, 02:33:45 pm
Quote from: "Hazy Eyes"
Does Gwen browse this forum?

I just read her blog about someone ripping "Snow" & posting it for others to download, and it got me thinking...


I think she does!  :o
Title: V's sister gwen starting singing career?!?
Post by: NoelleNC on December 30, 2007, 09:37:36 am
The piano behind the voice & lyrics is decent, and even her voice could be good with some training, but right now I don't think she is good enough to really get anywhere unless someone really takes her under their wing. Sorry, but that's my opinion.
Title: hmmm
Post by: fairytales on December 31, 2007, 12:22:16 am
its funny why she erased her picture with v when they're little, she probably saw it here and we're talking about it.. and in her page she erased v from her influence..v was there but wasn't anymore. :?:

 im just curious with vanessa's life and family. i wanna know how she is as a sister with gwen and her brother...yeah that kind of stuff. v's probbly a fun sister... and very inspirational. But since that i could never be her sister i wish im one of her best friends or the one she could talk to just for the hell of it...ahaha thats too much to ask:)

anyways i saw gwen's blog about her song snow being hacked... lol she's probbly ticked off... but still nice bout it... so yeah i thought she's really checking NH forum...:)
Title: V's sister gwen starting singing career?!?
Post by: _all_is_well_ on January 06, 2008, 12:07:05 pm
Her style is interesting with a little work on her singing.... Who knows.