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Vanessa Carlton => General Vanessa Carlton Discussion => Topic started by: PianoPlayer12 on November 20, 2007, 01:39:01 pm
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Well we thought she might before but this interview kinda solidifies that there is a great chance of this happening in the future.
sorry if this has been posted. :(
VANESSA CARLTON LEARNED the hard way that "artistic control" in the music industry only has currency as long as you're bringing in currency.
Six years ago, A&M Records signed the piano-playing singer-songwriter while she was just a young lass studying at Columbia University. It was a match made in Billboard heaven when Carlton's debut single, "A Thousand Miles," went Top Five and scored three Grammy Award nominations. Along with Michelle Branch and Alicia Keys, Carlton was in the forefront of the "Britney backlash" — young female artists who played instruments and composed their own songs.
Then her Tori Amos-influenced single, "White Houses," got banned from radio and MTV because of its blunt lyrics about a girl losing her virginity. Its low chart position caused the album, "Harmonium," to sell poorly and A&M to lose confidence. Carlton left the label.
Last year she caught the ear of Irv "Gotti" Lorenzo, who signed her to his hip hop label, The Inc. — formerly known as Murder, Inc.
But Carlton hasn't gone rap, nor has she done a Nelly Furtado and sexed everything up.
The label allowed the 27-year-old to hold steady to her artistic vision and she's quick to say the "seemingly odd coupling" works. She may be right: Her new CD, "Heroes & Thieves" is arguably her best yet, with its funky, autobiographical lead-off single "Nolita Fairytale" and the gorgeously wistful coming-of-age ballad "Spring Street."
Carlton talked with Express by telephone in advance of her Birchmere gig. She spoke candidly about topics ranging from her relationship with ex-boyfriend Stephan Jenkins of Third Eye Blind (who co-produced the new CD), to her feelings about her devoted fans, who call themselves "Nessaholics."
» EXPRESS: What influenced your distinctive piano style?
» CARLTON: Mozart sonatas — and in terms of a lot of the minor key stuff, it comes from some Rachmaninoff and [George] Gershwin. And then, of course, it's crossed with this blanket pop-culture influence. My father used to love Pink Floyd and Fleetwood Mac. It's kind of cross-pollination between those two worlds — classical and pop.
» EXPRESS: Who thought up the idea of satirizing your "A Thousand Miles" video for your new video, "Nolita Fairytale?" They start the same, but in the new video, your trademark piano gets smashed by a cab.
» CARLTON: It was [video director Mark Klasfeld's] idea initially. My initial reaction was to laugh. And then I realized it's so much deeper than just being humorous. It's obviously a big metaphor, and so perfect to open the new door into the next chapter of my career.
» EXPRESS: On "Nolita Fairytale" you sing "take away my record deal." Can you explain what happened with your former record company?
» CARLTON: Actually, I was given an ultimatum — basically like a slap on the wrist, like, "You shouldn't have made 'Harmonium'; you should have done everything we said." Meanwhile, it wasn't supported by them, so of course I was doomed to begin with on that project. They pulled the plug on my record and then said, "See, it didn't work. You have to now reaudition [and] submit your songs as you write them. You have to do everything that we say." So what's the point of having an aesthetic and being an artist if you're just some kind of puppet for a team of people that don't necessarily know their own aesthetic? There was no other choice for me but to leave.
» EXPRESS: How did you come to work with producer Linda Perry on "Spring Street" and "This Time?"
» CARLTON: After "White Houses" was released, the label sent me back into the studio because they didn't feel like I had a follow up single. One of the artists I worked with was Linda Perry and I really did connect with her. So I have to thank some people at my old label for hooking me up with Linda. We have a couple of other songs that didn't make the record, but might come out in Japan or something.
» EXPRESS: You've released several rare b-sides and some of your early demos are circulating on the Internet. Are we ever going to get a Vanessa Carlton rarities CD for all the "Nessaholics?"
» CARLTON: I'd love to do that. Absolutely. When I collect enough b-sides that have enough buzz around them I think a selection of rarities warrant a record. I will do that in a heartbeat. I love those kind of Nessaholic-type fans. I love that's the name they give themselves. I give them whatever they need to keep the addiction going.
» EXPRESS: Did your recent break-up with Stephan Jenkins influence the writing of any of these songs — or did that happen during the recording?
» CARLTON: Well, there's a lot of transition going on in my personal life that always influences my work. I did write two songs that were directly influenced by that kind of broken relationship, and how that was kind of evolving into a friendship. It all happened during the recording of the record, which I think in the end made for a pretty special record.
» EXPRESS: I found it ironic that Stevie Nicks was on the record, singing backup on "The One," because it seemed like you were working in a situation similar to when Fleetwood Mac was recording "Rumors," where relationships within the band were breaking up.
» CARLTON: It's funny you said that, because Stevie was in the studio with Stephan and me, and she was like, "It was just like [(Fleetwood Mac guitarist] Lindsey [Buckingham] and I." She was stepping back in time, in a sense, because it was a very similar environment in the studio as it was when she was in the studio doing "Tusk" and "Rumors." I met Stevie in 2004 when Lindsey played guitar on "White Houses." We just connected. And she asked me out on tour with her at the end of 2005. I've been touring with her on and off for the past two years. But we developed a real friendship, and even more special than that, she's been guiding me and mentoring me. It's pretty extraordinary the impact she's had. Not just on my career, but on my personal life.
» EXPRESS: How are you finding you fit in with the hip-hop artists at The Inc.? Doesn't that Ivy League pedigree destroy your street cred?
» CARLTON: Ha, ha. Actually, you'd be surprised. A lot of these guys are so eloquent when they want to be. They have different lexicons they speak depending on who is around. It's pretty funny. I guess I get the intellectual side of some of these hip-hop guys who you assume would give one word answers or something. But they're all quite lovely and intelligent. I love the fact that this is kind of this abnormal and seemingly odd coupling. In the end I signed with Irv because I think he's a brilliant guy and he has fantastic musical ears.
» EXPRESS: I had read some media outlets banned "White Houses." Is this true — or is it a rumor that evolved because Ashton Kutcher made this an issue for a skit that featured you on "Punk'd?"
» CARLTON: It actually was censored and then Ashton kind of played on that. In the bridge of the song it lyrically describes a woman losing her virginity — in a very poetic, subtle and beautiful way. But nevertheless I do say the word "blood." And I guess it wasn't OK for me to say that word. And I think it's absurd considering how graphic and disgusting things are on TV lately.
» EXPRESS: Back in April you performed at a Hillary Clinton fundraiser. Did you get to meet her and President Clinton?
» CARLTON: Yes, I did. I adore them as people in addition to their brilliant political careers and work. I am all for Hillary 100 percent. I really like Chelsea. I think they're an extraordinary family. Anything I could do in terms of cross-pollination with the musical and political world to support Hillary I will.
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Thanks!
Nice interview.
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"I give them whatever they need to keep the addiction going."
that was so cool!
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After "White Houses" was released, the label sent me back into the studio because they didn't feel like I had a follow up single. One of the artists I worked with was Linda Perry and I really did connect with her. So I have to thank some people at my old label for hooking me up with Linda. We have a couple of other songs that didn't make the record, but might come out in Japan or something.
Wow, I didn't know that they actually sent her back to the studio after White Houses. I think Private Radio or Who's to Say would have made great follow up singles- if they promoted them. I wonder what songs she came up with during this time.
Thanks for posting this interview1 :)
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After "White Houses" was released, the label sent me back into the studio because they didn't feel like I had a follow up single. One of the artists I worked with was Linda Perry and I really did connect with her. So I have to thank some people at my old label for hooking me up with Linda. We have a couple of other songs that didn't make the record, but might come out in Japan or something.
Wow, I didn't know that they actually sent her back to the studio after White Houses. I think Private Radio or Who's to Say would have made great follow up singles- if they promoted them. I wonder what songs she came up with during this time.
Thanks for posting this interview1 :)
A lot of fans thought that too. It was a shame.
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Aaw thats really great! I was just thinking about this today funnily enough, and how great it would be. She already has enough unreleased/rare songs to release an album like this. Even if it was only an acoustic or unplugged EP between albums i'd be overjoyed.
Ameriteen
Morning Sting
Birdie
Carnival
All I ask
Superhero
All is well
Best behaviour
Swindler
(and the unheard) Wave goodbye
And i know she probably wouldnt want to go back this far and probably looks upon it as her old, poorer work but if she ever needed a filler song or two maybe she always has the demo tape. I actually really like a few songs from it
Meggie Sue
Little Mary
Faces
Devil dance
Wonder
Burden
Last fall
Have I forgotten any? Hope this does happen one day :D
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I'd like to hear some of those songs re-recorded, because she sounded a mess back when she recorded those and sounds a million times better now.
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I'd like to hear some of those songs re-recorded, because she sounded a mess back when she recorded those and sounds a million times better now.
Yeah, her voice kills my ears on the demo tape. lol
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sweet. verra nice article. V will be around to have a b-side record. I have no doubt.
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» CARLTON: After "White Houses" was released, the label sent me back into the studio because they didn't feel like I had a follow up single. ]
They HAVE to be kidding. "Who's To Say" is something I'm willing to bet every adolescent feels, as is "Private Radio".
So she got in a pissing contest with A&M. It's largely as I guessed. It became "look how we can f*** you". Well, they f***ed VC and they f***ed themselves....which of course, I would invite them to do had they not done it already.
Sorry about the language. I hate when a great album falls through the cracks. There are too many of them out there.
Dan/NS
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Wow, I really hope she releases a b-side album. That would be so great!
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Yay Vanessa! Please do it! =]
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After "White Houses" was released, the label sent me back into the studio because they didn't feel like I had a follow up single. One of the artists I worked with was Linda Perry and I really did connect with her. So I have to thank some people at my old label for hooking me up with Linda. We have a couple of other songs that didn't make the record, but might come out in Japan or something.
Wow, I didn't know that they actually sent her back to the studio after White Houses. I think Private Radio or Who's to Say would have made great follow up singles- if they promoted them. I wonder what songs she came up with during this time.
Thanks for posting this interview1 :)
A lot of fans thought that too. It was a shame.
So it was this time, when her old label sent her back to the studio, when V wrote It's Now, Summer Child, and Underneath with the Matrix and HOM, This Time, and The One with Linda Perry? I would love the other tracks she did with Linda Perry and the three songs she did with the Matrix to be on the b-side album. I hate knowing a song exists but I can't listen to it. :(
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Ooh I love her. It would be wonderful if it happened.
We'll get AIS for sure.
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Aaw thats really great! I was just thinking about this today funnily enough, and how great it would be. She already has enough unreleased/rare songs to release an album like this. Even if it was only an acoustic or unplugged EP between albums i'd be overjoyed.
Ameriteen
Morning Sting
Birdie
Carnival
All I ask
Superhero
All is well
Best behaviour
Swindler
(and the unheard) Wave goodbye
And i know she probably wouldnt want to go back this far and probably looks upon it as her old, poorer work but if she ever needed a filler song or two maybe she always has the demo tape. I actually really like a few songs from it
Meggie Sue
Little Mary
Faces
Devil dance
Wonder
Burden
Last fall
Have I forgotten any? Hope this does happen one day :D
Ameriteen
Morning Sting
Birdie
Carnival ----> Spy Hunter 2
All is well
Best behavior
Swindler ----> She already used this as a B side (OD Single)
(and the unheard) Wave goodbye
I think so far to hear
Ameriteen
Morning Sting
Birdie
All is Well
Wave Good Bye
Best Behavior
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And i know she probably wouldnt want to go back this far and probably looks upon it as her old, poorer work but if she ever needed a filler song or two maybe she always has the demo tape. I actually really like a few songs from it
Meggie Sue
Little Mary
Faces
Devil dance
Wonder
Burden
Last fall
Have I forgotten any? Hope this does happen one day :D
i'd LOVE her to do some of the demo tracks, since her vocals a a million times better, now.
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» CARLTON: After "White Houses" was released, the label sent me back into the studio because they didn't feel like I had a follow up single. ]
They HAVE to be kidding. "Who's To Say" is something I'm willing to bet every adolescent feels, as is "Private Radio".
So she got in a pissing contest with A&M. It's largely as I guessed. It became "look how we can f*** you". Well, they f***ed VC and they f***ed themselves....which of course, I would invite them to do had they not done it already.
Sorry about the language. I hate when a great album falls through the cracks. There are too many of them out there.
Dan/NS
It's true. I reckon "Who's to Say" could have done really well, if given the chance.
I would absolutely love a b-side collection (professionally-recorded!) because most of my favourite songs of hers aren't album tracks!!
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I would love that, and I would also love her to make an album of some of her favorite classical pieces to perform on piano. But she can wait awhile on that.
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Quail Dude Squaw (or whatever the real name is).
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if she waits a year it would be really smart on her behalf because who knows if H&T will catch fire, and then if she released her b-sides, more people would buy them. just a thought!
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I would love that, and I would also love her to make an album of some of her favorite classical pieces to perform on piano. But she can wait awhile on that.
Ya, she should play some classical pieces by famous composers, or maybe the one she wrote when she was about 8.
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great interview..tnx for posting!<:
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PLEASE RELEASE YOUR B-SIDES AS AN ALBUM VANESSA!!!!!! THEY ARE GREAT! i hate the whole white houses controversy and what her old label did to her, she is a strong woman who has done well with all this rejection throughout the years, and im sure A&M people are regretting letting her go!
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OMG! i totally cannot wait until that happens, if it does happen! she should have a b-side album, and hopefully, it'll be released on itunes or somewhere where i can buy it, cos i'd feel bad to steal from Nessa.
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i dont think she should label it "b-sides" but make it feel like a new album, it would be a smart move, because a lot of those songs have the potential to do great, and the album might sell over 2,000,000 like BNN did!
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oes anybody kow how mch HaT has sold to date?
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around 50-55,000
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"I give them whatever they need to keep the addiction going."
that was so cool!
YEAH! WAY COOL! :D
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around 50-55,000
are those just guesses though?
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no, i read it on a site somewhere, but thats not counting digital copies.
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i dont think she should label it "b-sides" but make it feel like a new album, it would be a smart move, because a lot of those songs have the potential to do great, and the album might sell over 2,000,000 like BNN did!
Ya I agree..All V's songs are great and worthy to make albums..
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Of course, it shouldn't be just B-sides, but songs that never made a side at all!
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I think that it would be cool if she did that.. Also if she re recorded dome of the really early ones like little mary i realy like that one.