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Other Topics => Completely Off-Topic => Topic started by: nickjonasfan on January 19, 2008, 09:27:07 am
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so i guess i've realized i really want a macbook. but the thing is, i got a new computer in april 2007, but i think i want macbook because of everything it is, and i think apples are better.
does anybody have one? are they good? what do they do? better than a pc?
i think i also want one so i can move around. with a computer your limited to that space on your desk or wherever, but with a laptop you can move to wherever.
any recommendations of what type of macbook?
thanks (:
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I love how Mac users are always like, "Macs are superior to PCs!" But it's usually because Mac users are computer stupid and barely know how to even use their own Mac. Like, I constantly see Mac users say shit like, "I can't listen to that file because it requires Windows Media Player!"
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It annoys the shit out of me when people choose to remain completely ignorant of the technology their using. Educate yourself, there's programs such as VLC Media Player and Flip4Mac for a reason.
Anyways, I wouldn't recommend a Mac unless you're going to be using it for purposes such as graphic design, etc. Macs perform well for a few specific functions, but other than that, unless you want to be a trendy hipster with an iBook (Which is a retarded reason for coughing up that much money on an overrated Mac product, especially after getting a new computer in April), then there's no point. *Shrugs*
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I know. My cousin got a Mac a few months ago and shes like its so easy to use and its the best. She comes over and complaines that my PC sucks and she can't do the same stuff. I'm just like yes you can, just do this . than she says "oh" its really no different I think. I have always used a PC. the computers at school are all macs and I don't really like them. But if you want a mac get one. I'm happy with my PC.
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Macs arent computers. If you make a thread requesting computer help and i open the thread to find a bunch of hipster apple bullshit i get angry. Id make threats here but this is the internet, and we all know better than that.
edit: Apologies to the mac users who actually have a mac for a good reason and dont act like they are gods gift to earth.
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Macs arent computers. If you make a thread requesting computer help and i open the thread to find a bunch of hipster apple bullshit i get angry. Id make threats here but this is the internet, and we all know better than that.
edit: Apologies to the mac users who actually have a mac for a good reason and dont act like they are gods gift to earth.
This.
I mean, mac's do what you want them to do.... you just pay 30% more and then pay twice as much for future add-ons and wait an extra year for every new technology and software package.
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i have a PC but my friend's mom has a Mac and she seems to like it alot...
but it looks fragile...dunno if it really is or it just appears that way :razz: :lol: LOL
But it is a very big investment...
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all of the teachers at my old school used macs, and they had the students use them too, personally i like them. i love how they have the web cam, cool video editor, garage band, and how fast they run. I was the editor of the yearbook last year and used the macs at school, and a pc at home.
I really liked the macs, but i am used to a pc, thats the only negitive side to them in my opinion. if you are used to a pc, it will take a little while to learn how to use a mac.
and that mac book air thing is rediculous! i hate it, it is too thin, i bet if you dropped it or set it down roughly it would break. i like the small white ones [macbook] they are cool and my friend has one.
good luck
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i love how they have the web cam, cool video editor, garage band, and how fast they run.
Yeah because there is no such thing as a web cam on a PC, or a video editing program, and DEFINITELY not music software. I also find it highly amusing you mention how fast macs run, i heard they do the 100 yard dash in under 10 seconds without even breaking a sweat. Now thats something a PC will never do.
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all of the teachers at my old school used macs, and they had the students use them too, personally i like them. i love how they have the web cam, cool video editor, garage band, and how fast they run. I was the editor of the yearbook last year and used the macs at school, and a pc at home.
I really liked the macs, but i am used to a pc, thats the only negitive side to them in my opinion. if you are used to a pc, it will take a little while to learn how to use a mac.
and that mac book air thing is rediculous! i hate it, it is too thin, i bet if you dropped it or set it down roughly it would break. i like the small white ones [macbook] they are cool and my friend has one.
good luck
Macs are almost always behind PCs in the latest hardware. I built a PC in July that has better specs than the latest macs just announced at mac world last month.
So speed is false. PCs are faster.
Yes, you get garage band on them. But you can get one of 1,000 software packages for a PC that will do the same thing. And you can even get some of them free.
In fact, every software package that comes on a mac has dozens and dozens of equally good software packages for the PC. PC's ALWAYS get the latest software first because there is competition.
Plenty of laptops and PC monitors have built in web cams and there are 100's of aftermarket ones.
There is absolutly nothing you can say about a mac that is better than a PC except "lolz, it's prettier" or "lolz, i like the OS better."
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I want to build a fast system. So expensive! Im probably going with an 6200 dual core this time around. =|
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If I had that kind of money I wouldn't waste it on a mac. I would build an awesome gaming PC.
Seriously, it depends on what you want it for. My best friend loves her mac but she does animation.
If you buy a mac you're just paying for the name. If you don't actually want to use it for anything worthwhile and just want to faff around on this and facebook then knock yourself out.
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I'm used to using Macs, so I find them a lot easier to use. One major downside, of course, is that if you're an avid gamer you have to wait a few months for most games to be released for Macs. Plus, you can't buy Mac games in Target or whatever so you have to either find it at the Apple store or buy it online.
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macs are pretty though!
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If I had that kind of money I wouldn't waste it on a mac. I would build an awesome gaming PC.
Seriously, it depends on what you want it for. My best friend loves her mac but she does animation.
If you buy a mac you're just paying for the name. If you don't actually want to use it for anything worthwhile and just want to faff around on this and facebook then knock yourself out.
PCs are still better for animation. MOre options, better video cards available and better render farm options.
I have a friend who OWNS a 3D animation and design company and they are exclusively PC based.
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If I had that kind of money I wouldn't waste it on a mac. I would build an awesome gaming PC.
Seriously, it depends on what you want it for. My best friend loves her mac but she does animation.
If you buy a mac you're just paying for the name. If you don't actually want to use it for anything worthwhile and just want to faff around on this and facebook then knock yourself out.
PCs are still better for animation. MOre options, better video cards available and better render farm options.
I have a friend who OWNS a 3D animation and design company and they are exclusively PC based.
I can believe that. I'm a PC girl through and through.
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Ewwwww Macs...
The music department has exclusively macs at my college... Mainly because they only make some software we need for macs (or that's what they tell us.)
I freaking hate them.
It's the same deal with ipods. I'm against ipods because you are paying for the namebrand... I bought a creative mp3 player two years and and it still works. Ipods.... not (usually) so much. I am just against buying the name brand. It's the same with Nike (although they also have child labor problems so that's another reason).
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I would really love to get a mac for the program some of the laptops come with: GarageBand. It would be so helpful to my musical genius that has no outlet in that form. It would be so awesome. :P
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i went with a macbook pro :D
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i went with a macbook pro :D
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Haha I think this thread is hilarious. People have been arguing for years about what platform is better and there really is no answer. It is all preference! I have been using the mac platform for about 10 years and I love the OS. I still have the first 17" powerbook bought over 5 years ago and going strong. Even back then they included wireless G, backlit keyboard, firewire 400, and aluminum enclosure. It's almost like arguing what car is better. Since the move to intel I think macs have done pretty well in keeping up with technology. I also think running windows on a mac is cool too with VMware or Bootcamp (even though I think you can do the same with PCs). PCs will always be cheaper and like Andrew and Pete said there is more competition for the PC world so things will come out first. Andrew, did you build a Intel "Harpertown" Quad Core last July? Damn that is a smokin system! How much did that cost when you built that tower? (I am interested in building a PC for gaming which the mac platform will never be good for due to lack of market share).....I personally just like the simplicity of the OS and its ease of use and I love how Logic and Garageband run. You can do everything you can do on a PC on Mac and vice versa. I have always looked at Mac Computing as a luxury car verses a regular car. They all get you to the place you want to go, one is just prettier and the engineering is tweaked. If you can afford it why not?
As for the iPod, I love my iPhone for music and videos. They have simplified mobile email and web browsing (besides no flash support and lack of 3G I know..I know...) I prefer it over the blackberry. I think they also do pretty well for pricing. I think the iPod touch is priced pretty well. Just personal opinion though......I think Apple is a great company and they make durable and user friendly products that are beautiful to look at at the same time.
Danny
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Haha I think this thread is hilarious. People have been arguing for years about what platform is better and there really is no answer. It is all preference! I have been using the mac platform for about 10 years and I love the OS. I still have the first 17" powerbook bought over 5 years ago and going strong. Even back then they included wireless G, backlit keyboard, firewire 400, and aluminum enclosure. It's almost like arguing what car is better. Since the move to intel I think macs have done pretty well in keeping up with technology. I also think running windows on a mac is cool too with VMware or Bootcamp (even though I think you can do the same with PCs). PCs will always be cheaper and like Andrew and Pete said there is more competition for the PC world so things will come out first. Andrew, did you build a Intel "Harpertown" Quad Core last July? Damn that is a smokin system! How much did that cost when you built that tower? (I am interested in building a PC for gaming which the mac platform will never be good for due to lack of market share).....I personally just like the simplicity of the OS and its ease of use and I love how Logic and Garageband run. You can do everything you can do on a PC on Mac and vice versa. I have always looked at Mac Computing as a luxury car verses a regular car. They all get you to the place you want to go, one is just prettier and the engineering is tweaked. If you can afford it why not?
As for the iPod, I love my iPhone for music and videos. They have simplified mobile email and web browsing (besides no flash support and lack of 3G I know..I know...) I prefer it over the blackberry. I think they also do pretty well for pricing. I think the iPod touch is priced pretty well. Just personal opinion though......I think Apple is a great company and they make durable and user friendly products that are beautiful to look at at the same time.
Danny
Your mac is only beautiful because you have my little pony stickers all over it.
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Haha I think this thread is hilarious. People have been arguing for years about what platform is better and there really is no answer. It is all preference!
Yes. And PRICE. That's always the key point... it's all preference in terms of interface and functionality... but the mac costs more.
Andrew, did you build a Intel "Harpertown" Quad Core last July? Damn that is a smokin system! How much did that cost when you built that tower? (I am interested in building a PC for gaming which the mac platform will never be good for due to lack of market share)
Nah. I got the first generation of the new stepping dual cores in July. The 2.33 with 1333 FSB. It hauls ass.
It cost me about 650 after rebates, but that was without a monitor.
I have always looked at Mac Computing as a luxury car verses a regular car. They all get you to the place you want to go, one is just prettier and the engineering is tweaked. If you can afford it why not?
A luxury car adds features. A mac does not add features over a PC. It's just prettier.
So you say "why not?" I say "why?" Why pay more when you're not getting any new functionality?
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Pete I am just saying that a aluminum enclosure on a tower is better looking than plastic. The design of the enclosures are nice even with stickers on it :)
Well Andrew I guess this is a losing battle, but still functionality is still an arguable point. A toyota Camry fully loaded has all the features of a Lexus ES350. But it costs 60K more. They both have the same V6 block, same Navigation system, same push button start. The lexus just has some engineering features to make it look different. I personally love Mac OS X and love the way it works. I think when OS X was released 5 + years ago it was a huge deal because it was open source and it was UNIX based. My Dad is a programmer and he actually uses both but prefers Xcode on OS X because it compiles on the fly as you write code. I understand about price and for price of course PC's win hands down. Some people also think of the stability of the OS, that is why Macs really have a big chunk of the Audio industry. Audio runs too on PC but people tend to have far more problems.
That is the reason why I ended up on Macs because every producer I have met that has experience started on PC first then ended up on MAC after audio issues. Hey we all have different needs from our computing and I still argue that it is a preference. Some people think it would be crazy to pay crazy money for a Bugatti when you can make the Supra the same speed with much less money.
Oh well I see your point though guys just putting in my two cents.
Danny
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Pete I am just saying that a aluminum enclosure on a tower is better looking than plastic. The design of the enclosures are nice even with stickers on it :)
Well Andrew I guess this is a losing battle, but still functionality is still an arguable point. A toyota Camry fully loaded has all the features of a Lexus ES350. But it costs 60K more. They both have the same V6 block, same Navigation system, same push button start. The lexus just has some engineering features to make it look different. I personally love Mac OS X and love the way it works. I think when OS X was released 5 + years ago it was a huge deal because it was open source and it was UNIX based. My Dad is a programmer and he actually uses both but prefers Xcode on OS X because it compiles on the fly as you write code. I understand about price and for price of course PC's win hands down. Some people also think of the stability of the OS, that is why Macs really have a big chunk of the Audio industry. Audio runs too on PC but people tend to have far more problems.
That is the reason why I ended up on Macs because every producer I have met that has experience started on PC first then ended up on MAC after audio issues. Hey we all have different needs from our computing and I still argue that it is a preference. Some people think it would be crazy to pay crazy money for a Bugatti when you can make the Supra the same speed with much less money.
Oh well I see your point though guys just putting in my two cents.
Danny
Vista and XP show as being everybit as reliable and failure proof as OSX. Only anecdotal data shows otherwise, and that's tainted by marketing and perception.
If you have audio problems, it's due to the software or hardware you use... not the platform it runs on.
The movie and music industry using macs is a classic example of good marketing on the part of Apple.
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Well I know XP is pretty reliable now on audio but I know Vista is not. Audio drivers are not working well in Vista and most people around me are switching back to XP for stability. I have used both and I really prefer the interface of OSX and its user friendly setup. Core Audio works well in OSX. I also think Vista looks nice but doesn't look like it had a good first year being out. I rarely reboot my macs but with vista you can't put the system to sleep and have it wake up properly. I know all users face different issues but I couldn't stand how buggy Vista was. I installed XP again on my iMac last week and it works better for me when I need PC programs. Once again all preference but I think it is really about what operating system you like best for your needs. Since the internal parts are now the same that is the only difference. Ahh the computing world......this will never end lol. I do have to agree with you though it is frustrating WAITING on the updates to their pro line. Penryn based Mobile chips have been shipping for PC laptops since January and Apple has still yet to release them on the Macbook Pro. They are lucky they got the 8 core 3.2ghz Towers in January. That took me by surprise. I am sure there are PC machines that can out do that any day though.....sad.
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Well I know XP is pretty reliable now on audio but I know Vista is not. Audio drivers are not working well in Vista and most people around me are switching back to XP for stability. I have used both and I really prefer the interface of OSX and its user friendly setup. Core Audio works well in OSX. I also think Vista looks nice but doesn't look like it had a good first year being out. I rarely reboot my macs but with vista you can't put the system to sleep and have it wake up properly. I know all users face different issues but I couldn't stand how buggy Vista was. I installed XP again on my iMac last week and it works better for me when I need PC programs. Once again all preference but I think it is really about what operating system you like best for your needs. Since the internal parts are now the same that is the only difference. Ahh the computing world......this will never end lol. I do have to agree with you though it is frustrating WAITING on the updates to their pro line. Penryn based Mobile chips have been shipping for PC laptops since January and Apple has still yet to release them on the Macbook Pro. They are lucky they got the 8 core 3.2ghz Towers in January. That took me by surprise. I am sure there are PC machines that can out do that any day though.....sad.
There have been PC's that run dual quad cores for, oh, 6 months now. And they are about a grand cheaper than the mac pro.
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I have a Belkin wireless router whichh I tried to install last week, but it
seems to require a dedicated rather than shared connection to the web.
The instructions suggest I should be able to just connect my ADSL modem
via the WAN port, and connect my PC via the 1st LAN port. The printer is
then connected to the USB print server port and presto! Unfortunately all
I got was DNS errors when I tried to go online with this setup last week
The Belkin WR is a DI-524UP, my Netgear ADSL2+ modem is a DM111P ;-)
Peace
Aaron
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y168/cadenus/2008_Card02.png)
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Me and my friend went to the apple store yesterday, i LOVE the small white macbook.
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The Apple Vs PC debate is dead in the water peeps; Speak up now or for-
ever hold your peace Mac users here, who are ever going to have to deal
with the likes of Zlob Win32 Trojan 1.0.0.25 (yes they've perfected it) (http://forum.nessaholics.com/images/smiles/icon_twisted.gif)
Peace
Aaron
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http://learninc.paretologic.revenuewire.net/xoftspyse/download
^ This is the url at which Pareto Logic has made a copy of its Z........ rem-
oval software available. 6 days after I attempted to re-register Xoft...SE
unsuccessfully (my c-card didn't have internet usage privaleges) I was
given the back-door treatment by a M..ware that clearly would have been
stopped had I been able to re-register Xoft...SE in the first instance ROTFL
If any one would like to send a copy of the Pareto solution to my e-mail in
the image below and ensure they add me to a blind cc only, all is well :razz:
Peace
Aaron
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y168/cadenus/2008_Card02.png)
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I got home tonight only to find Norton had been running and reported back
with having discovered Zlob and fixed the problem. It would seem given the
nature of the interference with Windows XP (that I've been accustomed to
the last 5½ days), that remnants of the Trojan remain, but if Zlob has been
able to mimic a Norton screen to the leter than hats off! When you can't tell
between the genuine article and a fraudulent copy then the Trojan wins :twisted:
Peace
Aaron
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I found a really nice way to overcome the affects of Zlob on the browser :idea:
upgrade from IE6 to IE7 :razz: Works a treat and I've been able to block stuff!
Peace
Aaron
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So far, I am yet to find an Anti-Malware software that will remove Z..b w/o
me having to enter my c-card details to register and gain a product key :?
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y168/cadenus/Zlob01.png)
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y168/cadenus/Zlob02.png)
Peace
Aaron
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i got a mac because i am a graphic design major and i also wanted to record some music and garage band comes free with it. i've had it for almost 3 years and i love it. but even if i didn't need it for school, my career or music i would probably still own one. they're good computers that combine efficiency with smart design.
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I bought a black MacBook last night because my Toshiba Satellite has given me nothing but problems. I've put so much money into it, arm and a leg going directly through Toshiba I decided to try a Mac. Crossing over...The salesman said that it came with something similar to word/excel/power point, I installed both the OS X discs but can't find it. I even got a free HP Printer to go with it. So far, so good. Just trying to figure it all out. :)