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Title: Vanessa Carlton booted from Disney Festival for Swearing
Post by: lavender skies on October 23, 2009, 11:34:01 am
"The American singer, songwriter, and pianist was asked specifically not to come back to perform at Walt Disney World earlier today after a slip of the tongue during her performances at EPCOT's Food and Wine Festival 'Beats and Eats' Concert series at the American Adventure Pavilion.

According to reports, Carlton dropped the 'F' bomb during her first and third sets today. After being asked to watch her language by officials after her first set, Carlton was apologetic and promised not to do it again which proved false after her third set.

After being asked not to perform again, cast members in charge of the concert series instead asked another local band to play in place of Carlton.

Carlton was scheduled to perform both today and tomorrow during the concert series. More information will be posted as soon as available.

This year's International Food and Wine Festival also plays host to seminars, tasting events and sumptuous dinners overseen by top Disney Chefs as well as renowned guest Chefs.
Over the course of the Festival, there will be 1200 beer and wine seminars scheduled with complimentary samples."
Title: Re: Vanessa Carlton booted from Disney Festival for Swearing
Post by: blueglove on October 23, 2009, 11:42:18 am
where is this from?
Title: Re: Vanessa Carlton booted from Disney Festival for Swearing
Post by: lavender skies on October 23, 2009, 12:19:31 pm
http://community.livejournal.com/ohnotheydidnt/40392337.html?page=1#comments

That's where I got it from. Real source is posted there.
Title: Re: Vanessa Carlton booted from Disney Festival for Swearing
Post by: Arwen on October 23, 2009, 01:38:09 pm
Fuck! Bunch of prudes!
j/k, I mean it is Disney World what was she thinking?? I wonder why she did it again after they told her not to? Maybe she's just so used to doing it that she forgot  :-\
Title: Re: Vanessa Carlton booted from Disney Festival for Swearing
Post by: nosticker on October 23, 2009, 09:42:29 pm
Seriously, what is UP with this chick?   There are times when I really think that
she is trying to sabotage her career.  And when is she saying "F?"  I seem to recall her saying "A Thousand F-in Miles" or referring to "C'est La Vie" as meaning "F--- it", but that's all I can remember.

Did she change her set list to:

More Than F***
Half a F*** Before The Winter
Nolita F***rytale
Who's to F***
Paint It F***

:)

Dan/NS
Title: Re: Vanessa Carlton booted from Disney Festival for Swearing
Post by: Martin. on October 23, 2009, 10:04:50 pm
I think she started swearing when she forgot the lyrics to her songs.
Title: Re: Vanessa Carlton booted from Disney Festival for Swearing
Post by: blueglove on October 24, 2009, 06:51:01 am
http://community.livejournal.com/ohnotheydidnt/40392337.html?page=1#comments

That's where I got it from. Real source is posted there.

not that I am denying it happening, but John and some girl are not "real sources" nor is a webpage with "Blogspot" in the name.

too bad she didn't play again
Title: Re: Vanessa Carlton booted from Disney Festival for Swearing
Post by: KULPDOGG on October 24, 2009, 09:25:32 am
....wow.

that sucks.


but it's not surprising.

haha.

oh well.
Title: Re: Vanessa Carlton booted from Disney Festival for Swearing
Post by: CelestialHorse on October 24, 2009, 10:15:24 am
Ironic considering Disney is crude in their movies :P (with subtile hints).

Besides, it was probably out of habit too.
Title: Re: Vanessa Carlton booted from Disney Festival for Swearing
Post by: nosticker on October 24, 2009, 12:30:34 pm
Might have been out of habit, but it seems out of character for her to not be professional.  She made a mistake.  It happens.  People slip.  It can be tough not to swear.  Not too long ago, some chick dropped the F bomb on Saturday Night Live and there was a big to-do about that.

Things like this are one of many reasons why being a VC fan is interesting.



Dan/NS
Title: Re: Vanessa Carlton booted from Disney Festival for Swearing
Post by: charmed23 on October 24, 2009, 01:02:56 pm
VC's professional career officially ends here. She is not even C ranked
Title: Re: Vanessa Carlton booted from Disney Festival for Swearing
Post by: Arwen on October 24, 2009, 06:41:30 pm
Oh well, screw Disney anyway. Maybe if she would have gotten up and danced on a pole, they would have thought that was appropriate.  ::)
Title: Re: Vanessa Carlton booted from Disney Festival for Swearing
Post by: SylvanHistorian30 on October 24, 2009, 08:12:17 pm
VC's professional career officially ends here. She is not even C ranked
If that's so, does anyone thing she'll go independent?
Title: Re: Vanessa Carlton booted from Disney Festival for Swearing
Post by: Nessaholista on October 24, 2009, 08:54:29 pm
Disney does not deserves Vanessa! :P
Title: Re: Vanessa Carlton booted from Disney Festival for Swearing
Post by: jeremybfr on October 25, 2009, 06:35:13 am
VC's professional career officially ends here. She is not even C ranked
What does the C ranked mean  ???
Title: Re: Vanessa Carlton booted from Disney Festival for Swearing
Post by: charmed23 on October 25, 2009, 06:45:35 am
What does the C ranked mean  ???

a WHILE WHILE WHILE ago, way before the release of H&T, when the official forum was still the Harmonium-theme, someone started a discussion whether Vanessa is an A-listed celebrity, or just B or worse, C-listed celebrity. I was a little mad and upset when I read that, cause I didnt want to believe Vanessa's career would never get back up again.

but guess what, she performed for Disney World without anyone knowing that (I dont see any topics or news alerts) and then got replaced by a LOCAL BAND!!
VANESSA CARLTON, who has probably one of the biggest and most memorable song of all time, who made appearances in the Grammy, TRL, American Music Awards etc..... sadly has ended up like this.

...I dont know what to write for my eulogy
Title: Re: Vanessa Carlton booted from Disney Festival for Swearing
Post by: Nessaholic4Ever on October 25, 2009, 09:32:07 am
Am I the only one who finds this absolutely friggin' hilarious????

I love her even more now than I did before.

Oh, and I never understood why she was performing at a Disney event anyway. It doesn't really suit her. They can get Raven-Symone instead. No biggie.
Title: Re: Vanessa Carlton booted from Disney Festival for Swearing
Post by: Nessaholista on October 25, 2009, 09:34:33 am
Am I the only one who finds this absolutely friggin' hilarious????

I love her even more now than I did before.

Oh, and I never understood why she was performing at a Disney event anyway. It doesn't really suit her. They can get Raven-Symone instead. No biggie.

Same here  ;D
Title: Re: Vanessa Carlton booted from Disney Festival for Swearing
Post by: sabasaba on October 25, 2009, 11:26:24 am
Oh well, screw Disney anyway. Maybe if she would have gotten up and danced on a pole, they would have thought that was appropriate.  ::)


HAHAHA! Good one.
They totally don't deserve her! Bunch of pricks.
I agree, though, it's unlike Vanessa to be unprofessional. I wonder why she made the same mistake again after being told not to - twice, I believe?
Bummer.
I'm assuming we have no audio/video from her short-lived performance?
BUMMERRRRRRRRRR.
Does anyone else find it strange that she keeps forgetting the lyrics to her own songs - over and over and over and over?
Hmm...
Title: Re: Vanessa Carlton booted from Disney Festival for Swearing
Post by: charmed23 on October 25, 2009, 02:58:10 pm
Am I the only one who finds this absolutely friggin' hilarious????

I love her even more now than I did before.

Oh, and I never understood why she was performing at a Disney event anyway. It doesn't really suit her. They can get Raven-Symone instead. No biggie.

because she trying to earn her living. it is that simple. no one now remembers her, her value has plummeted so she can only perform at places like that.
Title: Re: Vanessa Carlton booted from Disney Festival for Swearing
Post by: KULPDOGG on October 25, 2009, 03:33:22 pm
Am I the only one who finds this absolutely friggin' hilarious????

I love her even more now than I did before.

Oh, and I never understood why she was performing at a Disney event anyway. It doesn't really suit her. They can get Raven-Symone instead. No biggie.

Same here  ;D

ditto.
Title: Re: Vanessa Carlton booted from Disney Festival for Swearing
Post by: SylvanHistorian30 on October 25, 2009, 08:31:35 pm
Ah, well, c'est la vie (f***k it!)
Title: Re: Vanessa Carlton booted from Disney Festival for Swearing
Post by: Nessaholista on October 25, 2009, 09:21:34 pm
Word  ::)
Title: Re: Vanessa Carlton booted from Disney Festival for Swearing
Post by: nessafan_sa on October 26, 2009, 04:45:41 am
lol, I also think this is hilarious :D
Title: Re: Vanessa Carlton booted from Disney Festival for Swearing
Post by: nutnlp on October 26, 2009, 06:06:03 am
I mentioned this in another thread..I'd be sympatheic is "shit" and "fuck" were not apart of her setlist...but it seems so forced and stupid now.  She swears ATLEAST once at every show...I would be suprised if IT WAS written on her setlist....people are saying "oh well, it happens"....not in VC's case..it doesn't JUST happen...it happens at every fucking show..come on nessa, get a new gimmick.
Title: Re: Vanessa Carlton booted from Disney Festival for Swearing
Post by: lavender skies on October 26, 2009, 03:38:53 pm
This was EXTREMELY unprofessional. Vanessa swears purposely during shows- it causes a laugh and makes her appear more relatable and "cool."

Okay, we get it Vanessa, there is obviously a reason why you have nessaholics, you don't need to put on a front. It would be another thing if she did it once, and when asked to stop, she did. But to continue to swear, at Disney for Christ's sake, just shows how unprofessional she can be.

Vanessa is irrelevant right now as much as we hate to admit, and she knows it herself. This is the kind of show where she should play ATM, Ordinary Day, White Houses, and then pick up her paycheck and go home and smoke a bowl. She can do whatever she wants at her own shows, but this just makes her look tacky, which is not what she needs right now.
Title: Re: Vanessa Carlton booted from Disney Festival for Swearing
Post by: davidjp on October 27, 2009, 05:03:26 am
I don't find this hilarious at all. It's rather sad. Like a poster said before, being booted out and replaced by a local band. Has she hit rock bottom? It's such a shame, cos she writes such beautiful songs. *sigh*
Title: Re: Vanessa Carlton booted from Disney Festival for Swearing
Post by: Laura on October 27, 2009, 03:36:47 pm
wow, i haven't read anything about vc in a long time & this is the first thing i read lol. was hoping her career was getting back on track cuz i miss her music.. makes me sad that even nessaholics are kind of turning on her.
Title: Re: Vanessa Carlton booted from Disney Festival for Swearing
Post by: charmed23 on October 27, 2009, 04:56:28 pm
http://blog.kudzu.com/?p=1642

the only picture so far I guess
Title: Re: Vanessa Carlton booted from Disney Festival for Swearing
Post by: AisforAdrn on October 27, 2009, 06:18:13 pm
I feel as if she's so far past even giving a crap, but that's who she is. She's probably not going to apologize for it. Why do it, that's her personality. And if you really think that she's C listed and is extremely innappropriate....shut the hell up and leave. Haha that's Vanessa.
Title: Re: Vanessa Carlton booted from Disney Festival for Swearing
Post by: lavender skies on October 27, 2009, 08:13:49 pm
I feel as if she's so far past even giving a crap, but that's who she is. She's probably not going to apologize for it. Why do it, that's her personality. And if you really think that she's C listed and is extremely innappropriate....shut the hell up and leave. Haha that's Vanessa.

I don't agree. I think we all appreciate Vanessa for who she is, but there is a time to be appropriate. When she can't act her age and sing the few songs she is famous for to get people to maybe listen to her again, then that's not okay and very unprofessional. I think we all like Vanessa for many of the same reasons, including her personality onstage, but because we like Vanessa, I hope that the nessaholics can realize there is a time where she can say fuck all she wants- at her shows when she is actually on tour, and when she is invited to perform at Disney.
Title: Re: Vanessa Carlton booted from Disney Festival for Swearing
Post by: amberbeads on October 28, 2009, 09:01:34 am
Vanessa is a grown-up and she swears. A bunch of us swear! Tons of musical acts swear! She just happened to swear at Disney. She swears "on purpose" at her shows because she does in real life! Just like normal people!

It's the fact that it was at Disney that this was even a big deal. And, like someone already mentioned, Disney was cool with Miley pole-dancing at the VMAs or where ever? I really hate Disney. They are a ridiculously uptight entity with too many double standards.
Title: Re: Vanessa Carlton booted from Disney Festival for Swearing
Post by: nutnlp on October 28, 2009, 11:37:52 am
I dont support anything disney but i support there decision...they are PAYING her too play....and there are rules...if she can't follow suite, that makes me her look like a big idiot....her swearing is TOTALLY staged just like mostly everything she says...most of the time..when shes touring.....but the last thing an artist does is wanna piss off disney....that miley pole dance was even that bad...c'mon people....teenagers are going to be teenagers with or without miley cyrus in their life...cursing at a concert is different story especially at a disney event u are getting PAID for.
Title: Re: Vanessa Carlton booted from Disney Festival for Swearing
Post by: Patricius on October 28, 2009, 12:48:12 pm
that miley pole dance was even that bad...c'mon people....teenagers are going to be teenagers with or without miley cyrus in their life...cursing at a concert is different story especially at a disney event u are getting PAID for.

I think it's the little kids that look up to Miley that everyone is referring to. I'm not really sure of any teenagers that even idolize her. Little kids, yes, so I believe Miley's pole-dancing is inappropriate for her type of audience.

As for Vanessa, I feel as though she should have regarded the warning, especially since she's losing popularity...
Title: Re: Vanessa Carlton booted from Disney Festival for Swearing
Post by: charmed23 on October 28, 2009, 01:54:46 pm
I feel as if she's so far past even giving a crap, but that's who she is. She's probably not going to apologize for it. Why do it, that's her personality. And if you really think that she's C listed and is extremely innappropriate....shut the hell up and leave. Haha that's Vanessa.


don't worry hun I don't really check this board like I used to. Pop in and out monthly noew you know, just to check the insanity of some nessaholics, who always and never stop worshiping VC. I am so happy for VC to have an online entourage who never ceases saying "VANESSA YOU ARE PERFECT" 24/24, to keep her swearing for the sake of her unique personality that we all love and adore and admire. People love hearing her saying FCK cause it is the best promotion A&M or Murder Inc. could possibly ever have done to promote her as a friendly ordinary easy-to-relate singer. This will definitely push H&T's sales!

I will never regret moving to Jewel. I'm not a hardcore VC fan anymore but definitely will keep supporting her if she has any future music (go listen to Afterglow to remember the once goldenage of Vanessa Carlton)
Title: Re: Vanessa Carlton booted from Disney Festival for Swearing
Post by: your.dying.wish on October 28, 2009, 04:48:47 pm
VC's professional career officially ends here. She is not even C ranked


What does the C ranked mean  ???

a WHILE WHILE WHILE ago, way before the release of H&T, when the official forum was still the Harmonium-theme, someone started a discussion whether Vanessa is an A-listed celebrity, or just B or worse, C-listed celebrity. I was a little mad and upset when I read that, cause I didnt want to believe Vanessa's career would never get back up again.

but guess what, she performed for Disney World without anyone knowing that (I dont see any topics or news alerts) and then got replaced by a LOCAL BAND!!
VANESSA CARLTON, who has probably one of the biggest and most memorable song of all time, who made appearances in the Grammy, TRL, American Music Awards etc..... sadly has ended up like this.

...I dont know what to write for my eulogy

If you think Disney is the best place a musician can end up you are sadly mistaken in that Disney has never put out quality music that touches the soul, it is a small world after all, that is cute, and for children.

Vanessa is so not Disney. Disney is not quality music. This is their mistake to book someone who does not fit their image, whatever image that is, it is fake, it is illusion, and not reality, all of which Vanessa is NOT as a serious musician.

Whoever is saying her career is rock bottom and Afterglow is her golden age has yet to hear her last album or is unaware she is producing most of the tracks on her new one. She is just becoming more sophisticated as a musician which is about making music and not about an image.

Most fans know she is not image, is not Beyonce hits who no one will remember in 20 years, academy awards, lol, this is sadly not the epitome of music regardless however much corporate America markets it as such. They are after dollars from empty souls while Vanessa is about music that touches our soul truly.

The best music as of right now will not be featured at the academy awards, it will not be shown on MTV most likely, and it will not be a pop 20 hit that will be forgotten next year, the best and most important music being made now is indie music which I hope Vanessa fully goes as an artist.

Nessa fans know who she is, after White Houses, she seems to know making great music is not dependent on music labels and record deals that come full with them deciding what is the sound of the moment and try to pressure her into it, and while she might not get Disney gigs or mainstream radio coverage, it is nothing to lament over, she has a core audience and I will go out and buy every album however it is distributed.
Title: Re: Vanessa Carlton booted from Disney Festival for Swearing
Post by: charmed23 on October 28, 2009, 07:07:18 pm
If you think Disney is the best place a musician can end up you are sadly mistaken in that Disney has never put out quality music that touches the soul, it is a small world after all, that is cute, and for children.

Vanessa is so not Disney. Disney is not quality music. This is their mistake to book someone who does not fit their image, whatever image that is, it is fake, it is illusion, and not reality, all of which Vanessa is NOT as a serious musician.

Whoever is saying her career is rock bottom and Afterglow is her golden age has yet to hear her last album or is unaware she is producing most of the tracks on her new one. She is just becoming more sophisticated as a musician which is about making music and not about an image.

Most fans know she is not image, is not Beyonce hits who no one will remember in 20 years, academy awards, lol, this is sadly not the epitome of music regardless however much corporate America markets it as such. They are after dollars from empty souls while Vanessa is about music that touches our soul truly.

The best music as of right now will not be featured at the academy awards, it will not be shown on MTV most likely, and it will not be a pop 20 hit that will be forgotten next year, the best and most important music being made now is indie music which I hope Vanessa fully goes as an artist.

Nessa fans know who she is, after White Houses, she seems to know making great music is not dependent on music labels and record deals that come full with them deciding what is the sound of the moment and try to pressure her into it, and while she might not get Disney gigs or mainstream radio coverage, it is nothing to lament over, she has a core audience and I will go out and buy every album however it is distributed.

I am sad that Vanessa ended up getting kicked out of the show with a reputation fell like a rock. Hope you were just being sarcastic when you say I think "Disney is the best place a musician can end up". If you think that was what I meant, recommend reading my post again.

This is my opinion, but saying image can be careless is bullsh**. The image is the first thing that slaps you in the face thus giving what quality can you expect from an artist. It totally reflects the artist as a whole and her bodies of works. I do not have a single problem with Vanessa's cursing. But everyone, well obviously except for some nessaholics, finds it disturbing that she cursed even after the warning from Disney. so what kind of real image do you think VC is? A girl who walks around cursing whenever she feels like it? Hell yes everyone does that. But being a musician, a real musician, aren't you, in your fans' view, a role model- an artist with such strong conscience and morals whose songs and musics help you through your hard times? Im taking a risk here but I can say that no one will ever get VC's music if she says "fck" in ATM in the first place. If VC really is someone who is independent and withstanding, and cursing is her nature and we all support "freedom of speech", then why didnt she say the word in the first place?

Ive never seen her live but from what I have been following, she cursed lately in small shows (as her career is going down, ok, in terms of sales). You may argue that when she curses+small shows=> the real Vanessa Carlton, the real music, the real image, real quality... I don't buy that. Like many people state above, she probably tries to make the show intimate and personal, which Im 100% support, but I think she's losing control and becoming rebellious as a result of stress from the disappointment after H&T. She poured her souls and tears into it and yet it wasnt well received.

I agree about the Grammy and MTV being garbage these days. But im not sure about going indie. Fans have long saying they are fine with her going indie. i feel a doubt. She once sold millions, had great video, performing live in famous places. Do you think she will be able to do all that when she goes indie? (im sorry i have no idea what indie artists are like?) I mean what is the fun when she releases a CD and that's it? She may perform here and there, back in the clubs and street venues stuff like that but no official video on youtube, on TV, no video, no performing in TV show? Charlotte Martin was super when she was trying mainstream. and she just released a CD I have no idea. and nothing else. all silence. same with Sugar Ray.

I dont know about you but I love seeing Vanessa doing stuffs. I cant just stare at the CD (even if she is able to release physically). and Im from Vietnam, Im not even in the States and the only way I can feel her is to see her. Is that possible if you go indie? or do you want cut all the fans to get her to yourself?

Sometimes I am pissed at fans who just want Vanessa for themselves. "OMG I wish we could stay like this forever, just us a little group and Vanessa. we know everything about Vanessa, her rare songs and laugh at people face when they wonder why Ordinary Day's live was different". I really dont know what to start on this. It's great that we have a group, but wanting Vanessa to go totally off mainstream so only us know her music => somehow makes it the best music in the world. better than anything else. especially compared to mainstream songs. and we are the best people, best fans for having the best music and artist...
....
omfg i hate it so much when people say that. I am so sorry your.dying.wish, but declaring such a fake fact: "Indie music is the best music" is such nonsense. I know it is all opinions, but to make your opinions valid you have to have proof and evidence. Alanis Morissette and Jewel and Garbage and Michelle Branch are still making music. and it is debatable whether any of them is good (depends on your taste), but they are still making great music, and I can say that because they produce/play and write heartfelt lyrics. and they are efffing MAINSTREAM. I am upset at your bringing Beyonce up. I have never like her as a idol but she writes her freaking songs and dances her ass off and sings her heart out and seriously, paying to her is one of the worthiest entertainment thing you could get (please dont tell me music is not entertainment) because the woman is passionate and does everything the best she can.

and btw Vanessa has been writing her songs since the first album so in case you didnt know that you would only say this :"Whoever is saying her career is rock bottom and Afterglow is her golden age has yet to hear her last album or is unaware she is producing most of the tracks on her new one"   again, opinions here, whichever era you want to choose as her golden age
Title: Re: Vanessa Carlton booted from Disney Festival for Swearing
Post by: nutnlp on October 29, 2009, 10:02:22 am
I don't think shes ever been on a list. Does that fucking matter anyway?  She is a talented muscian, not some person your going to see on the cover of tabloids...that was never a life VC wanted or a life that any of us would want for her..she makes great music..she had an album and song that sold enough for her to probably live a lifetime on....she is comfortable in her own skin....If I didn't know VC's music and live show antiques...I would have totally pinned her for the perfect match for a Disney concert....I mean, if I didn't know VC i'd be saying "yeah, a thousand miles, ordinary day, perfect, clean, fun pop songs".  Perfect.  Who cares if she isn't as publicized and talked about as much as she used too...she doesn't seem to mind..why should we? as long as we keep getting new music..there really is no need for any of us to even concern ourselves with that.  It happens to artists all the time, especially ones with dedicated fanbases...it really does happen a lot and it's probably happened to a lot of people you used to listen too in 2002.
Title: Re: Vanessa Carlton booted from Disney Festival for Swearing
Post by: your.dying.wish on October 29, 2009, 01:40:54 pm
I am sad that Vanessa ended up getting kicked out of the show with a reputation fell like a rock. Hope you were just being sarcastic when you say I think "Disney is the best place a musician can end up". If you think that was what I meant, recommend reading my post again.

No need to be sad and her reputation is not going to suffer.

This is my opinion, but saying image can be careless is bullsh**. The image is the first thing that slaps you in the face thus giving what quality can you expect from an artist. It totally reflects the artist as a whole and her bodies of works. I do not have a single problem with Vanessa's cursing. But everyone, well obviously except for some nessaholics, finds it disturbing that she cursed even after the warning from Disney. so what kind of real image do you think VC is? A girl who walks around cursing whenever she feels like it? Hell yes everyone does that. But being a musician, a real musician, aren't you, in your fans' view, a role model- an artist with such strong conscience and morals whose songs and musics help you through your hard times? Im taking a risk here but I can say that no one will ever get VC's music if she says "fck" in ATM in the first place. If VC really is someone who is independent and withstanding, and cursing is her nature and we all support "freedom of speech", then why didnt she say the word in the first place?

I am going to say that 'everyone found it disturbing' is just not true in that most people most likely do not even know this happened or would care. Image in the way you are discussing it, more as in reputation, and image the way I was discussing it, total manufactured and fake concept in hope it will resonate and sell more, are not the same exact thing.

I am pretty sure her reputation is in tact and if anything cussing at Disney could in no way hurt sales, it is not like people will stop buying Nessa CDs because now she is a negative influence on children, she does not make children's music for that to happen, she is not Hannah Montana.

Ive never seen her live but from what I have been following, she cursed lately in small shows (as her career is going down, ok, in terms of sales). You may argue that when she curses+small shows=> the real Vanessa Carlton, the real music, the real image, real quality... I don't buy that. Like many people state above, she probably tries to make the show intimate and personal, which Im 100% support, but I think she's losing control and becoming rebellious as a result of stress from the disappointment after H&T. She poured her souls and tears into it and yet it wasnt well received.

I am not going to guess about her stress or disappointment and her lack of sales has nothing to do whatsoever with the quality of her music. Good sales is really equal to good marketing and distribution which is something that the labels control. If they have five albums to put out they are going to spend most of their money advertising one of them, the one they think will bring them the most money back, it will be the album that has elements that appeal to the lowest common denominator of persons, it will also target the main audience they are trying to capture, and whatever it is most likely will be top ten rubbish that is out as soon as it is in.

The fact that this is the type of audience we are dealing with, one who wants fast music, one wants the latest hit, and who listens to commercials and other advertisements to decide what is good music now and what they should be doing to fit in with the rest of the world, in other words it is a market of sheeple who are a marketers dream.

This is not the type of audience Vanessa is going for and that has been clear since her earliest interviews. She is not trying to aim for top ten hit music.

I agree about the Grammy and MTV being garbage these days. But im not sure about going indie. Fans have long saying they are fine with her going indie. i feel a doubt. She once sold millions, had great video, performing live in famous places. Do you think she will be able to do all that when she goes indie? (im sorry i have no idea what indie artists are like?) I mean what is the fun when she releases a CD and that's it? She may perform here and there, back in the clubs and street venues stuff like that but no official video on youtube, on TV, no video, no performing in TV show? Charlotte Martin was super when she was trying mainstream. and she just released a CD I have no idea. and nothing else. all silence. same with Sugar Ray.

I dont know about you but I love seeing Vanessa doing stuffs. I cant just stare at the CD (even if she is able to release physically). and Im from Vietnam, Im not even in the States and the only way I can feel her is to see her. Is that possible if you go indie? or do you want cut all the fans to get her to yourself?

Again this is about a business decision in who labels want to market and in turn that means their other acts suffer including Vanessa when she first tried them. Also indie is not as obscure as that anymore. There are videos, quality produced ones, on Youtube of many indie acts, as well as live shows, which can be more quality in some cases than what is recorded as the studio version, there are a few clips of Vanessa live as well in these intimate venues that you seem to equate with failure.

Sometimes I am pissed at fans who just want Vanessa for themselves. "OMG I wish we could stay like this forever, just us a little group and Vanessa. we know everything about Vanessa, her rare songs and laugh at people face when they wonder why Ordinary Day's live was different". I really dont know what to start on this. It's great that we have a group, but wanting Vanessa to go totally off mainstream so only us know her music => somehow makes it the best music in the world. better than anything else. especially compared to mainstream songs. and we are the best people, best fans for having the best music and artist...

It is not so much as that as most true fans knowing that in order for Vanessa to sell millions and have these magnificently large shows that it means she is part of the mainstream racket where she is controlled by the label, that would mean they would advertise someone else's album over hers, all her concerts and such would be under their mercy, which means she might never have any because they do not have the time, effort, or money to book them since they are focusing on other acts, in turn she cannot even choose to play where she wants for breach of contract, look I might be all wrong about the specifics but it would strip her of her soul, and I doubt she would still make songs or do shows as the one on Youtube where she sings London, which just listening made me cry cause it made me reflect on myself, when is the last time a mainstream artist made me cry listening to a low-quality video recording of their live show on a song that is not even released by them? Never....cause the label would not allow it to begin with and mainstream music just does not touch my soul.

omfg i hate it so much when people say that. I am so sorry your.dying.wish, but declaring such a fake fact: "Indie music is the best music" is such nonsense. I know it is all opinions, but to make your opinions valid you have to have proof and evidence. Alanis Morissette and Jewel and Garbage and Michelle Branch are still making music. and it is debatable whether any of them is good (depends on your taste), but they are still making great music, and I can say that because they produce/play and write heartfelt lyrics. and they are efffing MAINSTREAM. I am upset at your bringing Beyonce up. I have never like her as a idol but she writes her freaking songs and dances her ass off and sings her heart out and seriously, paying to her is one of the worthiest entertainment thing you could get (please dont tell me music is not entertainment) because the woman is passionate and does everything the best she can.

Indie is nice, go listen to groups like Au Revoir Simone, Lykke Li, Peter, Bjorn, and John, Santigold, Metric, Feist or even less known groups like We See Lights, Laura Veirs, or Sunset Rubdown, all who get play on the all night indie show, at least here on one of the local university radio stations.

Opinions indeed.

and btw Vanessa has been writing her songs since the first album so in case you didnt know that you would only say this :"Whoever is saying her career is rock bottom and Afterglow is her golden age has yet to hear her last album or is unaware she is producing most of the tracks on her new one"   again, opinions here, whichever era you want to choose as her golden age

It is much too soon in her career to speak of golden ages but it will never he her first studio album, it will never be ATM video, or a large venue concert, that is not how Nessa will be defined, but I can understand for those who are just into mainstream music, whose only exposure to Nessa was the ATM video, for them to think so, sadly they have not discovered the true Vanessa, but it is not sad in that oh poor Vanessa she is not going to be noticed by the top ten radio, no it is more sad in that many people have such a limited view of music and much less exposure to quality music which truly makes our world a more beautiful place...but top ten can be fun too for a bit I just doubt I will listen to the same stuff on the radio now in ten years, but Vanessa I will.
Title: Re: Vanessa Carlton booted from Disney Festival for Swearing
Post by: charmed23 on October 29, 2009, 02:12:54 pm
whichever you and I interpret the incident as, I guess we still love Vanessa.

I just wish she had communicated with us. I would feel differently about many aspects if she had her says here and there.
It's been so long, way too long.
Title: Re: Vanessa Carlton booted from Disney Festival for Swearing
Post by: your.dying.wish on October 29, 2009, 06:04:59 pm
Most definitely I just made a first ever twitter account just to get her updates but she stopped :/

Title: Re: Vanessa Carlton booted from Disney Festival for Swearing
Post by: sabasaba on October 30, 2009, 11:23:20 am
This was EXTREMELY unprofessional. Vanessa swears purposely during shows- it causes a laugh and makes her appear more relatable and "cool."

Okay, we get it Vanessa, there is obviously a reason why you have nessaholics, you don't need to put on a front. It would be another thing if she did it once, and when asked to stop, she did. But to continue to swear, at Disney for Christ's sake, just shows how unprofessional she can be.

Vanessa is irrelevant right now as much as we hate to admit, and she knows it herself. This is the kind of show where she should play ATM, Ordinary Day, White Houses, and then pick up her paycheck and go home and smoke a bowl. She can do whatever she wants at her own shows, but this just makes her look tacky, which is not what she needs right now.


Sadly, I agree.
Title: Re: Vanessa Carlton booted from Disney Festival for Swearing
Post by: nutnlp on October 30, 2009, 01:48:05 pm
I agree as well.
I just can't see her going indie and being very successfull, especially with her not being very active on the internet.  The internet plays a huge part in promotiong yourself and keeping your key fanbase up to date....I see, signing with a THIRD label....not good.

Of course we all want to see her do well, but I don't think it's appropriate to try and figure out what 'class' or whatever shes in.  She's a musician, not a celebrity. I feel like we care more than she does...fuck it..as long as I get new music one way or another, I'm happy.

Wonder if shes still considering doing film scores?
Title: Re: Vanessa Carlton booted from Disney Festival for Swearing
Post by: rtroll on October 30, 2009, 05:22:33 pm
She is whatever she wants to be. I am sure she made enough on her first album to allow her to make music on her own terms. I see her like an Aimee Mann. Putting out what she wants to and playing for the sake of playing. At the end of the day she only has to answer to herself.

If anyone sank her career it is her tard ex boyfriend. Seems quite clear that he used her to further his "producer" ambitions and she was wrapped around his finger. Good to see the latest 3EB disk is tanking. After all the guy was really nothing but a early 90's pop singer.

Let Vanessa do what she wants, and enjoy whatever she puts out. Who cares if she is not in the top 10, it is her life to live.
Title: Re: Vanessa Carlton booted from Disney Festival for Swearing
Post by: amberbeads on November 02, 2009, 08:54:45 am
Vanessa doesn't really sell any records, she doesn't really go to any parties or events, and she doesn't really seem to care much. I doubt this will affect anything at all. If any of you are disappointed that she swore at this concert, you need to wake up. She swears all the time, as do tons of adults. She is her own person and doesn't appear to give much of a hoot what anyone thinks of her, even her fans. She doesn't go out of her way to make connections with anyone here; she graciously signs autographs after shows but really, she does her thing and will continue to do so even if the people here are overly critical of her. I appreciate her tendency to do her own thing; it makes her very real for me.
Title: Re: Vanessa Carlton booted from Disney Festival for Swearing
Post by: nutnlp on November 02, 2009, 01:00:38 pm
I just feel like if her cursing was just 'vanessa being nessa' her music would have some kind of profanity in it but it doesn't......I'm just sayin' you don't wanna piss off disney..this probably ruins chances of her scoring a possible film that has ANY association with Disney let alone just being on a soundtrack..they are VERY strict....but that aside..her cussing is totally embaressing for the fact that it comes off so forced like its written in the setlist somewhere.

You don't shit where you sleep.
Thats all I'm sayin'.

I doubt she was playing for FREE.  Then I'd be like, ok, fuck it.
Title: Re: Vanessa Carlton booted from Disney Festival for Swearing
Post by: nessaRox on November 03, 2009, 06:24:12 am
stupid thing to do.....she s lost it..
Title: Re: Vanessa Carlton booted from Disney Festival for Swearing
Post by: your.dying.wish on November 03, 2009, 08:14:04 pm
She is whatever she wants to be. I am sure she made enough on her first album to allow her to make music on her own terms. I see her like an Aimee Mann. Putting out what she wants to and playing for the sake of playing. At the end of the day she only has to answer to herself.

If anyone sank her career it is her tard ex boyfriend. Seems quite clear that he used her to further his "producer" ambitions and she was wrapped around his finger. Good to see the latest 3EB disk is tanking. After all the guy was really nothing but a early 90's pop singer.

Let Vanessa do what she wants, and enjoy whatever she puts out. Who cares if she is not in the top 10, it is her life to live.

Vanessa doesn't really sell any records, she doesn't really go to any parties or events, and she doesn't really seem to care much. I doubt this will affect anything at all. If any of you are disappointed that she swore at this concert, you need to wake up. She swears all the time, as do tons of adults. She is her own person and doesn't appear to give much of a hoot what anyone thinks of her, even her fans. She doesn't go out of her way to make connections with anyone here; she graciously signs autographs after shows but really, she does her thing and will continue to do so even if the people here are overly critical of her. I appreciate her tendency to do her own thing; it makes her very real for me.

Agreeing with the above posts but thanks for that amber it has changed some of my view. Reaching out to the fans, calculated decision by a label to generate more money, or doing it simply for the love of it?

If it is not for the latter she should not be forced into it just to make us happy. I know I sink into my shells and do not really want to communicate with others at those times. That is what a shell is walling yourself off and who knows maybe this is her musical process and how she works.
Title: Re: Vanessa Carlton booted from Disney Festival for Swearing
Post by: _all_is_well_ on November 08, 2009, 12:10:13 pm
The whole thing is ridiculous. unfortunately, no one knows Vanessa by name. If this was a miley or taylor swift, then yes it would be all over E and written about in all the tabloids.

but its NOT, its Vanessa Carlton, and no one but us and the people their even knew she was playing. so it wont destoy her repuatation.

& I agree it was unprofessional, but i think it was probably a mistake, simply out of habit. (becuase she really wants to get kicked out of disney on porpose and not get paid ::)) Maybe im wrong but its not that big of a deal...
Title: Re: Vanessa Carlton booted from Disney Festival for Swearing
Post by: Pyro on November 13, 2009, 01:13:07 am
I haven't been following V much lately, so I decided to check her myspace to see what she was up to and her most recent post said she played at Disney. I was like, "Huh. That's weird."

Then I came here and saw "Vanessa Carlton booted from Disney Festival for Swearing" and I was like, "Of course, that is so Nessa."

On the one hand, it's kind of funny. On the other, it's sad that this is some of the only news about her right now.
Title: Re: Vanessa Carlton booted from Disney Festival for Swearing
Post by: Nessaholista on November 14, 2009, 07:21:36 am
I made this picture:

(http://s10.images.www.tvn.hu/2009/11/14/16/19/www.tvn.hu_6b3ea4359fca0a34de332052b0dff68c.jpg)
Title: Re: Vanessa Carlton booted from Disney Festival for Swearing
Post by: joey on November 14, 2009, 10:12:57 pm
Ok... I think a couple of people on here (*cough* nessaRox *cough*) are getting a little too rude. I mean all she did was swear at a show. It was a mistake. There is no big deal to this unless you're ten and you need to wash your mouth everytime you do that. Unfortunately Disney is full of ten year olds and it probably (actually more like definitely) was a slip of tongue. I mean COME ON!!! We've all done it. We've gone about not minding our Ps and Qs around kids.

Mistakes happen.

An artist like Vanessa who isn't catering to the top 40 mainstream charts needs to know that fans like us have her back. Its her inspiration and I believe it reminds her to keep going. If we're gonna diss her for just this stupid miniscule (imo) incident, we could be forcing her into obscurity. She hasn't even tweeted since she's left London and i dunno if its this thread or whether she really has been busy. whichever, I hope that she understands that apart from those "affected" by this incident there is a whole lot of us who love her irrespectively and are still standing by her.
Title: Re: Vanessa Carlton booted from Disney Festival for Swearing
Post by: HippieSongBird on November 16, 2009, 11:50:35 am
Ok... I think a couple of people on here (*cough* nessaRox *cough*) are getting a little too rude. I mean all she did was swear at a show. It was a mistake. There is no big deal to this unless you're ten and you need to wash your mouth everytime you do that. Unfortunately Disney is full of ten year olds and it probably (actually more like definitely) was a slip of tongue. I mean COME ON!!! We've all done it. We've gone about not minding our Ps and Qs around kids.

Mistakes happen.

An artist like Vanessa who isn't catering to the top 40 mainstream charts needs to know that fans like us have her back. Its her inspiration and I believe it reminds her to keep going. If we're gonna diss her for just this stupid miniscule (imo) incident, we could be forcing her into obscurity. She hasn't even tweeted since she's left London and i dunno if its this thread or whether she really has been busy. whichever, I hope that she understands that apart from those "affected" by this incident there is a whole lot of us who love her irrespectively and are still standing by her.
I agree entirely. As a rule I am not a fan of swearing, but Disney needs to chill!
And right now V needs all our support! She is in a very difficult situation, going indie, producing her own album. She needs to know WE stand behind her in every way. NO MATTER WHAT!
Title: Re: Vanessa Carlton booted from Disney Festival for Swearing
Post by: nutnlp on November 16, 2009, 12:59:04 pm
I don't think any of her 'fans' were affected by it...it's just REALLY unprofessional when your playing a paying gig at DISNEYWORLD.  I think thats the ONLY point anyone was trying too make...I personally think its halarious and makes me like Vanessa a little bit more...the fact that she wouldn't take the 'shit' or 'fuck' outta her setlist(yes, its been on her setlist for alittle over 2 years now*yawn*)....Also, I think that photo is GREAT!  

Also, everyone as Disney needs to stop living in some fucking fairytale where people don't swear....
Title: Re: Vanessa Carlton booted from Disney Festival for Swearing
Post by: Nessaholista on November 16, 2009, 02:07:22 pm
....Also, I think that photo is GREAT!

Thanks!
Title: Re: Vanessa Carlton booted from Disney Festival for Swearing
Post by: Patricius on November 16, 2009, 04:48:10 pm
My only problem is that she disregarded the first warning. That's basically it. Quite frankly, I still support her, or I wouldn't listen to her anymore... Or anxiously wait for another "tweak." I want to know what was so chockful.
=O
Title: Re: Vanessa Carlton booted from Disney Festival for Swearing
Post by: tylor2000 on November 17, 2009, 12:05:57 am
Yeah, she definitely needs to tweet more, give us a heads up.  It's not much to ask.
Title: Re: Vanessa Carlton booted from Disney Festival for Swearing
Post by: CelestialHorse on November 17, 2009, 12:35:28 pm
LOL the photo is cool :D

Heh, yeah I guess she's just reeeally busy. I'm sure the new album will be worth the wait. On imdb.com there's a couple of links to a couple of her new songs.
Title: Re: Vanessa Carlton booted from Disney Festival for Swearing
Post by: nutnlp on November 17, 2009, 12:40:23 pm
theve all been posted here...all the live videos from various shows from the last 8 months or so......hoping for a new album early 2010....for a while she was doing so good on twitter...haha
Title: Re: Vanessa Carlton booted from Disney Festival for Swearing
Post by: tylor2000 on November 17, 2009, 02:41:41 pm
That picture is my new desktop.  I tiled it.
Title: Re: Vanessa Carlton booted from Disney Festival for Swearing
Post by: Patricius on November 17, 2009, 03:08:00 pm
I want to know if she created more solo-instrumental pieces, like Waltz or the one she played on some Access Hollywood video, or something that appeals to me as much as London did. So, I'm looking forward to her new album.
Title: Re: Vanessa Carlton booted from Disney Festival for Swearing
Post by: nessaRox on November 17, 2009, 06:27:08 pm
Ok... I think a couple of people on here (*cough* nessaRox *cough*) are getting a little too rude. I mean all she did was swear at a show. It was a mistake. There is no big deal to this unless you're ten and you need to wash your mouth everytime you do that. Unfortunately Disney is full of ten year olds and it probably (actually more like definitely) was a slip of tongue. I mean COME ON!!! We've all done it. We've gone about not minding our Ps and Qs around kids.

Mistakes happen.

An artist like Vanessa who isn't catering to the top 40 mainstream charts needs to know that fans like us have her back. Its her inspiration and I believe it reminds her to keep going. If we're gonna diss her for just this stupid miniscule (imo) incident, we could be forcing her into obscurity. She hasn't even tweeted since she's left London and i dunno if its this thread or whether she really has been busy. whichever, I hope that she understands that apart from those "affected" by this incident there is a whole lot of us who love her irrespectively and are still standing by her.

I've removed my comment. I'm sure she s going thru some rough times.
Title: Re: Vanessa Carlton booted from Disney Festival for Swearing
Post by: Nessaholista on November 18, 2009, 06:14:52 am
That picture is my new desktop.  I tiled it.

I made for you a desktop size:

http://s10.images.www.tvn.hu/2009/11/18/15/30/www.tvn.hu_90339f45ac31de5433ad77983c82a12a.jpg (http://s10.images.www.tvn.hu/2009/11/18/15/30/www.tvn.hu_90339f45ac31de5433ad77983c82a12a.jpg)
Title: Re: Vanessa Carlton booted from Disney Festival for Swearing
Post by: tylor2000 on November 18, 2009, 02:10:02 pm
That picture is my new desktop.  I tiled it.

I made for you a desktop size:

http://s10.images.www.tvn.hu/2009/11/18/15/30/www.tvn.hu_90339f45ac31de5433ad77983c82a12a.jpg (http://s10.images.www.tvn.hu/2009/11/18/15/30/www.tvn.hu_90339f45ac31de5433ad77983c82a12a.jpg)


I still had to stretch it a bit, but the finger is long enough that it makes the aspect ratio not as noticeable, even further then your recrop/resize.
Title: Re: Vanessa Carlton booted from Disney Festival for Swearing
Post by: tylor2000 on November 18, 2009, 05:24:31 pm
But seriously, I still believe in Vanessa Carlton.  And I don't think anything will change that.  Your music IS inspiring.

Even if you do have a big middle finger.
Title: Re: Vanessa Carlton booted from Disney Festival for Swearing
Post by: Nessaholista on November 19, 2009, 07:37:56 am
But seriously, I still believe in Vanessa Carlton.  And I don't think anything will change that.  Your music IS inspiring.

Even if you do have a big middle finger.


 ;D
Title: Re: Vanessa Carlton booted from Disney Festival for Swearing
Post by: tylor2000 on November 19, 2009, 01:58:01 pm
But seriously, I still believe in Vanessa Carlton.  And I don't think anything will change that.  Your music IS inspiring.

Even if you do have a big middle finger.


 ;D

What I want to know is.........who went back and looked at the picture.......
Title: Re: Vanessa Carlton booted from Disney Festival for Swearing
Post by: nutnlp on November 19, 2009, 02:39:36 pm
thats going to be the tall tales for spring album cover. bahahahah!
Title: Re: Vanessa Carlton booted from Disney Festival for Swearing
Post by: CelestialHorse on November 19, 2009, 03:32:25 pm
I really love that pic XD I love how Vanessa is looking like she's saying "B*tch please!"
Title: Re: Vanessa Carlton booted from Disney Festival for Swearing
Post by: tylor2000 on November 19, 2009, 03:48:59 pm
ah, that is not what I meant but ok.

Title: Re: Vanessa Carlton booted from Disney Festival for Swearing
Post by: Nessaholista on November 19, 2009, 06:25:21 pm
thats going to be the tall tales for spring album cover. bahahahah!

Hell yeah  ;D
Title: Re: Vanessa Carlton booted from Disney Festival for Swearing
Post by: tylor2000 on November 19, 2009, 08:31:35 pm
Wow, you guys are just feeding off of this now aren't you?  That's pretty pathetic.
Title: Re: Vanessa Carlton booted from Disney Festival for Swearing
Post by: nutnlp on November 20, 2009, 08:01:17 am
yeah it is pathedic.....it's what happens when theres nothing going on with your music to talk about or share...it happens.....atleast some people have chosen to stick around and WAIT for news.....does a fan pay for this message board to stay up? damn, i'd be asking for donations at this point...but thanks to who does...i appreciate it. :)
Title: Re: Vanessa Carlton booted from Disney Festival for Swearing
Post by: Nessaholic4Ever on November 20, 2009, 10:34:37 am
I REALLY wish Vanessa would post something so we could stop talking about this stupid subject. I'm so over it.
Title: Re: Vanessa Carlton booted from Disney Festival for Swearing
Post by: nutnlp on November 20, 2009, 11:19:15 am
I REALLY wish Vanessa would post something so we could stop talking about this stupid subject. I'm so over it.

thank you, agreed.
Title: Re: Vanessa Carlton booted from Disney Festival for Swearing
Post by: Nessaholista on November 20, 2009, 11:33:36 am
This is the latest thing we heard about our V... what do you expect?
Title: Re: Vanessa Carlton booted from Disney Festival for Swearing
Post by: nutnlp on November 23, 2009, 11:30:04 am
damn these bible thumpers wont get over it!!

http://thedailydisney.com/blog/2009/11/will-vanessa-carlton-live-down-her-potty-mouth-epcot-performance/
Title: Re: Vanessa Carlton booted from Disney Festival for Swearing
Post by: nutnlp on November 23, 2009, 11:42:54 am
heres a blog w/ a pic:

http://www.samanthaling.com/?p=856

ps: isn't it funny that vanessa's been quoted saying the first song she ever learned on piano was when she was REALLY young and it was "it's a small world" hahaha
Title: Re: Vanessa Carlton booted from Disney Festival for Swearing
Post by: tylor2000 on November 23, 2009, 01:44:01 pm
Maybe they aren't bible thumpers, just people who have kids and don't want them to talk like a truck driver by age 12.  You can't talk like a truck driver until at least 18....or maybe it's 21....I forget.....

Whenever you are allowed to get your class A license.  Swearing is part of the license.
Title: Re: Vanessa Carlton booted from Disney Festival for Swearing
Post by: Giuliana on January 09, 2010, 10:59:12 pm
Seriously, what is UP with this chick?   There are times when I really think that
she is trying to sabotage her career.  And when is she saying "F?"  I seem to recall her saying "A Thousand F-in Miles" or referring to "C'est La Vie" as meaning "F--- it", but that's all I can remember.

Did she change her set list to:

More Than F***
Half a F*** Before The Winter
Nolita F***rytale
Who's to F***
Paint It F***

:)

Dan/NS
Hahha. That cracked me up! LMAO!
Title: Re: Vanessa Carlton booted from Disney Festival for Swearing
Post by: Giuliana on January 09, 2010, 10:59:48 pm
Oh well, screw Disney anyway. Maybe if she would have gotten up and danced on a pole, they would have thought that was appropriate.  ::)
Haha, that's so true
Title: Re: Vanessa Carlton booted from Disney Festival for Swearing
Post by: Giuliana on January 09, 2010, 11:04:17 pm
Ugh. This thing really annoys me.

I mean, Vanessa Hudgens and Miley Cyrus who are Disney teen stars, take naked pictures, Miley Cyrus makes a pool dance, date boyfriends who hit other people at bars, makes videos criticizing people, and Disney do nothing, and VC swears by accident (Gosh, that can happen to anyone, please!) and she gets fired?!

Ugh! I mean, and she's just so much better! So great! How could they fire her because of that!?

Disney sucks so bad. This reeaally annoys me.
Title: Re: Vanessa Carlton booted from Disney Festival for Swearing
Post by: Giuliana on January 09, 2010, 11:05:33 pm
Am I the only one who finds this absolutely friggin' hilarious????

I love her even more now than I did before.

Oh, and I never understood why she was performing at a Disney event anyway. It doesn't really suit her. They can get Raven-Symone instead. No biggie.

Hahha.That's a good poin of view.
Title: Re: Vanessa Carlton booted from Disney Festival for Swearing
Post by: AG. on January 16, 2010, 05:55:51 am
Does anyone know the name of the guitarist that tours with Vanessa, he played at Disney and i couldn't catch his last name, but he is called Mark.

He played at this concert too:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7BVjJ-EPggc
Title: Re: Vanessa Carlton booted from Disney Festival for Swearing
Post by: Serentic on January 16, 2010, 10:14:05 am
It's Skye Steele last time I checked, not Mark. He has an album out too.
Title: Re: Vanessa Carlton booted from Disney Festival for Swearing
Post by: Martin. on January 16, 2010, 12:40:50 pm
Skye is the violinist, not the guitarist.
Title: Re: Vanessa Carlton booted from Disney Festival for Swearing
Post by: Serentic on January 16, 2010, 05:02:59 pm
Oh, right. D: According to Google, it appears to be Mark Beauchemin. xD
Title: Re: Vanessa Carlton booted from Disney Festival for Swearing
Post by: your.dying.wish on January 20, 2010, 04:28:26 pm
I made this picture:

(http://s10.images.www.tvn.hu/2009/11/14/16/19/www.tvn.hu_6b3ea4359fca0a34de332052b0dff68c.jpg)

This is win.
Title: Re: Vanessa Carlton booted from Disney Festival for Swearing
Post by: LauraH on January 21, 2010, 05:32:02 am
Yes. That pic is amazing. You should get an award for it. rofl.
V is way too good for them anyways. She doesn't need Disney.
Title: Re: Vanessa Carlton booted from Disney Festival for Swearing
Post by: Arwen on January 21, 2010, 07:00:39 am
Agreed. I miss seeing her out and about. I wish she would do more public appearances.