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Title: House of Seven Swords (new song 1/12/2013) lyrics discussion
Post by: KULPDOGG on January 14, 2013, 12:58:34 pm
we currently only have 2 versions of one instance, so here's a rough of what I can make out so far
PLEASE DO NOT COPY-PASTE THIS ANYWHERE YET
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Strength and devotion come without warning
You know when you know what to do
No simple scheming, you should be sleeping
Sometimes you just can't think it through

And that's the way it is, love
Go whichever way you need to go
Nobody can tell you how to build
Your house of seven swords

That's the way it is, love
Together and yet still we're on our own
Nobody can tell us how to build
Our house of seven swords

Shamen won't tell you
The preacher will try to
And you take your time
Take a trip

Let your eyes see hidden things
Your heart beat like a drum
Your eyes see hidden things
Your heart beat like a drum

'Cause that's the way it is, love
Go whichever way you need to go
Nobody can tell us how to build
Our house of seven swords

That's the way it is, love
Together and yet still we're on our own
Nobody can tell us how to build
Our house of seven swords

Oo, oo, oo, ah

And that's the way it is, love
That's the way it is, love
Your house of seven swords
That's the way it is, love
Together and yet still we're on our own
Nobody can tell us how to build
Our house of seven swords


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so yeah, these probably aren't all correct, so PLEASE DO NOT COPY-PASTE THIS ANYWHERE YET.
we don't want the internet filling up with incorrect lyrics.

I did spend a lot of time on this, but I know it can't be perfect yet

Thank you, and PLEASE give your input.


a song about a failing relationship?
Title: Re: House of Seven Swords (new song 1/12/2013) lyrics discussion
Post by: cassiemoy on January 14, 2013, 08:48:24 pm
your patient work is always appreciated! also, there are two recordings? or just two reported performances?

i suspect that since 7 swords is a tarot card, the lyric might be "build" instead of "fill," like building a house of cards.
Title: Re: House of Seven Swords (new song 1/12/2013) lyrics discussion
Post by: KULPDOGG on January 14, 2013, 08:58:23 pm
thanks for your input, I changed a bunch of stuff and I believe it's much more accurate now!  :)


and by 2 recordings I mean the two both by manny, one was on his phone
Title: Re: House of Seven Swords (new song 1/12/2013) lyrics discussion
Post by: cassiemoy on January 14, 2013, 09:17:27 pm
thanks for your input, I changed a bunch of stuff and I believe it's much more accurate now!  :)


and by 2 recordings I mean the two both by manny, one was on his phone

haha i love it when i catch someone working in real-time. super! i'm also trying to figure out if "strength and devotion come without warning" is actually "strength and devotion, gone without warning" ... and whether or not she alternates "that's the way it is" and "that's the way it ends." this is mostly because i suspect this song is about dishonesty. possibly infidelity (which i would love because one could trace evolution of that idea in comparison to "fools like me" and "fair-weather friends," from brave optimism to something more bittersweet).

a quick google tells me that 7 of swords in tarot when upright suggests "betrayal, deception, getting away with something, stealth" while reversed the card  suggests "mental challenges, breaking free."

i think this song may be about the journey to indifference, to the point where one only says tell her what you want to tell her, go ahead and take a trip, go whichever way you have to go. one can't tell someone else whether or not to be honest and no one can tell us whether or not we're breaking free from each other or whether or not to be honest with each other. and maybe recognizing the distance, and even keeping it (sleep without him, let your eyes see other things, let your heart feel the drum).

all this indebted to your interpretation of the lyrics and a long way of agreeing with the "failing relationship" theme. you're a champ!
Title: Re: House of Seven Swords (new song 1/12/2013) lyrics discussion
Post by: [sobriquet] on January 15, 2013, 05:37:22 am
You should try writing your own songs sometimes, Kulp. You're really good with words.

I think the lyrics are pretty accurate. However, I doubt that she got all the lyrics right cause from experience, V often change some words later on as she finishes her songs.

As far as the theme goes, I don't think it is really about a relationship failing but rather a notion that despite being in a relationship, a person still remains an individual with the freedom and capacity to make decisions for himself. But still, this sort of freedom does not necessarily mean the end of a relationship. It is 'just the way it is,' as she sings in the chorus.

This song is really good. The message of the song reminds me of a Sharon Olds poem called 'Sex Without Love.' Read it.

And lastly, is it me or does the melody of the song is reminiscent of Florence and the Machine? But to whichever direction V is going , I can already feel that this is going to be good.
Title: Re: House of Seven Swords (new song 1/12/2013) lyrics discussion
Post by: Arwen on January 17, 2013, 10:08:38 am
I like it! It may be about a relationship that isn't typical or the norm. To me it's kind of saying no one else can tell you what is right for your life, you have to find out on your own.
Title: Re: House of Seven Swords (new song 1/12/2013) lyrics discussion
Post by: williansouza908 on January 18, 2013, 06:00:18 pm
house of seven swords this lyrics is very beautiful I hope this in the album euphoria
Title: Re: House of Seven Swords (new song 1/12/2013) lyrics discussion
Post by: pswik91 on January 30, 2013, 09:49:28 pm
I'm hearing something different at the last bit here.  I've marked it in bold. =)

Oo, oo, oo, ah

And that's the way it is, love
That's the way it is, love
Your house of seven swords
That's the way it feels,
Together and yet still we're on our own
Nobody can tell you how to build
Your house of seven swords
Title: Re: House of Seven Swords (new song 1/12/2013) lyrics discussion
Post by: KULPDOGG on February 22, 2013, 11:25:24 am
changed this line:

Let your eyes see hidden things
Your heart feel the drum
Your eyes see hidden things
Your heart feel the drum

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cause of this picture:
(http://stylelikeu.com/upload/photos/orig_tn_photo-46280-156489.JPG)
Title: Re: House of Seven Swords (new song 1/12/2013) lyrics discussion
Post by: JamesCrowley on February 22, 2013, 03:48:06 pm
Strength and devotion gone without warning

just because if they came without warning surely you wouldn't know when to do what to do? Might be wrong but just my initial reaction.
Title: Re: House of Seven Swords (new song 1/12/2013) lyrics discussion
Post by: pswik91 on March 27, 2013, 06:52:32 am
sorry to get off topic here but... that looks like a tentative track list for the next album =)))) where did you discover this gem?
Title: Re: House of Seven Swords (new song 1/12/2013) lyrics discussion
Post by: AG. on March 27, 2013, 09:20:12 am
http://stylelikeu.com/features/vanessa-carlton/

It's from this article here, and the pictures are at the bottom. Don't forget to scroll on them, that's how I missed half of them !
Title: Re: House of Seven Swords (new song 1/12/2013) lyrics discussion
Post by: pswik91 on March 27, 2013, 12:13:56 pm
I absolutely loved the video and the piano snippets in it!! Anybody know how you can get your piano made like that? I'd love to have mine have those moldings like hers!
Title: Re: House of Seven Swords (new song 1/12/2013) lyrics discussion
Post by: whitehouses81680 on July 26, 2013, 09:11:47 am
where can i download this song?
Title: Re: House of Seven Swords (new song 1/12/2013) lyrics discussion
Post by: williansouza908 on July 26, 2013, 06:46:12 pm
where can i download this song?

youtube or 4shared

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMY1-qcxNUA
http://www.4shared.com/mp3/R5fWZcb2/vanessa_carlton_house_of_seven.html
Title: Re: House of Seven Swords (new song 1/12/2013) lyrics discussion
Post by: whitehouses81680 on July 30, 2013, 07:08:13 pm
THANK YOU!
Title: Re: House of Seven Swords (new song 1/12/2013) lyrics discussion
Post by: pswik91 on September 25, 2013, 02:50:35 pm
Does anybody else love how she arpeggiated the chords at the beginning of 7 swords? =) i like the feel of it.
Title: Re: House of Seven Swords (new song 1/12/2013) lyrics discussion
Post by: KULPDOGG on October 05, 2013, 11:51:12 am
Does anybody else love how she arpeggiated the chords at the beginning of 7 swords? =) i like the feel of it.


yeah, the new beginning of this song is so lovely.

=) very awesome. I approve! I love it!
Title: Re: House of Seven Swords (new song 1/12/2013) lyrics discussion
Post by: sarab on October 12, 2013, 08:09:47 pm
Tonight she gave an explanation of the song (and it was my first time hearing it)
she said she wrote the song for her brother Edmund who recently graduated college and is now out in the world needing to navigate his own way and finding out who he is, his ethics and morals.  She said is does relate to the 7 of swords tarot card. 
As of right now I don't have any input on the lyrics but I'll get back to you when I can!  but i do think it's "strength and devotion gone without warning" I do remember that.  I remember thinking that is what happens when you are on your own for the first time and the safety net is gone.  You're off in the world fending for yourself and the sturdy hold you thought you had on your life gives way, forcing you to find a new path.