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Title: Liberman
Post by: lilwizardman_gelo on April 24, 2014, 11:10:58 pm
Liberman is coming out soon!
So far the track list reads as followed:

1. Take it Easy
2. Willows
3. House of Seven Swords
4. Blue Pool
5. Operator?
6. Nothing Where Something Used to Be
7. Matter Of Time
8. Unlock the Lock
9. River
10. Ascension


[UPDATE: Since Young Heart has been taken off the record. I'm wondering if the track order has changed... I can only assume Operator has taken Young Hearts place. Hopefully we will know soon!]
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: Fred_Saboya on April 25, 2014, 02:02:05 pm
River (9) - Liberman
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: williansouza908 on April 25, 2014, 03:37:12 pm
I am like all of us here waiting for willows take it easy unlock the lock and matter of time Also maybe I'll wait for you but this gets off maybe
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: HearMyBells on April 25, 2014, 05:02:23 pm
All these new songs that have not been performed or on the chalkboard are throwing me for a loop... But I love it!
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: Alex0821 on April 25, 2014, 06:28:12 pm
So exciting! I wonder if the first song (and single?) will be a song we haven't heard yet??
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: Rick on April 25, 2014, 09:22:43 pm
1. Patience
2. Take it Easy
3. House of Seven Swords
4. Unlock the Lock
5. Young Heart
6. Nothing Where Someone Used to Be
7. Willows
8. A Matter of Time
9. River
10. Ascension

Just my guess based on what tracks she's given via Instagram/what's been played live.
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: sarab on April 26, 2014, 08:10:57 am
isn't a matter of time a deer tick song?
and it's WILLOW, no S
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: AG. on April 26, 2014, 08:14:58 am
In Our Time is the Deer Tick duet song, although I think John does play the guitar as well on Matter of Time.

That track list looks pretty complete, unless she's changed the name of Patience at the last minute. I'm starting to want all the pre-album interviews, videos etc now! :)
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: HearMyBells on April 26, 2014, 08:55:46 pm
In Our Time is the Deer Tick duet song, although I think John does play the guitar as well on Matter of Time.

That track list looks pretty complete, unless she's changed the name of Patience at the last minute. I'm starting to want all the pre-album interviews, videos etc now! :)

I want all that stuff now too  :)

It would not 100% surprise me if she pulls a Beyonce and just drops it all at once with little warning. I wouldn't be upset!
Also I wouldn't mind if we didn't get Patience... I would much rather have MoneyMaker or another based on that snippet
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: sarab on April 27, 2014, 11:14:53 am
In Our Time is the Deer Tick duet song, although I think John does play the guitar as well on Matter of Time.

That track list looks pretty complete, unless she's changed the name of Patience at the last minute. I'm starting to want all the pre-album interviews, videos etc now! :)

oh, I thought they were both theirs, I haven't listened to a matter of time yet, now i'm glad  because it's  another song I haven't heard yet.  I want to hear this album with virgin ears, unlike with ROTR.  the only songs I've heard are the ones I heard myself live.  I haven't really listened to my recordings either, so they will all be fresh.
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: saphire on April 28, 2014, 12:21:04 am
"Matter of Time (7) - Liberman http://instagram.com/p/nUeq9JMdkp/ "

Message from Twitter. I love the picture from the Last Unicorn.To me it actually makes a lot of sense in connection with the song ;)

So here we go !

1.
2.
3. House of Seven Swords
4.
5. Young Heart
6. Nothing Where Something Used to Be
7. Matter of Time
8.
9. River
10. Ascension
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: Martin. on April 28, 2014, 08:33:10 am
super excited for this! :D

hope we get a nice little visual on the making of 'liberman' like she did with "four elements".
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: AG. on April 28, 2014, 11:54:34 am
Me too! Didn't she tweet a pic of Victor with a camera strapped to him, with something like 'Liberman from a low ride perspective'? Maybe that could be something to do with a 'four elements' esque video. Or maybe I'm just being very very optimistic  :P
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: sarab on April 28, 2014, 12:57:10 pm
i hope all the revealing of sequence leads up to the revealing of a release date!  I also wonder how all that artwork will tie in together in the album pamphlet
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: AG. on April 28, 2014, 01:11:46 pm
I have no idea what theme of artwork she is going for, those pictures alongside the track names range from mountain paintings, vintage surfer photos, film screencaps, tarot cards - quite hard to narrow it down really!

If anything, I'd hedge my bets towards that mountain painting, a kind of  warm, dreamy and colourful palette/tone inspired by maybe travels and memories (like the willow tree)
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: Fred_Saboya on April 29, 2014, 08:48:19 am
i don't mind if we don't get patience as well. i've never felt like that song could belong to an album anyway. i thought it was just a message like "be patient, please. i'm working on a new album" hahah.
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: sarab on May 20, 2014, 02:00:14 pm
#8 Unlock the lock

should someone merge this topic with the other topic "new album--euphoria?" and change the name of that to Liberman?
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: nutnlp on May 20, 2014, 04:43:17 pm
Haha! I'm glad she replied to my IG question about which number it was.  Haha.  Liberman as of 5-20-14:
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: Fred_Saboya on May 20, 2014, 05:28:31 pm
Haha! I'm glad she replied to my IG question about which number it was.  Haha.  Liberman as of 5-20-14:

great! now it's just "take it easy", "willows" and i hope "moneymaker".
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: Fred_Saboya on May 20, 2014, 05:30:10 pm
#8 Unlock the lock

should someone merge this topic with the other topic "new album--euphoria?" and change the name of that to Liberman?

agreed!
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: nutnlp on May 20, 2014, 05:59:51 pm
I doubt we'll ever see Moneymaker.   And I'm cool with that...what's the fuss about people wanting to hear that song so bad?  We only know title right?  We know nothing else of the song?  Really hope TIE is on the album as it was one of my favorite moments of her winter tour.
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: lavender skies on May 21, 2014, 07:49:45 am
^Agreed on the Moneymaker point.

I cannot wait to hear a studio version of Willows. Am so stoked.
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: Fred_Saboya on May 21, 2014, 10:11:26 am
I doubt we'll ever see Moneymaker.   And I'm cool with that...what's the fuss about people wanting to hear that song so bad?  We only know title right?  We know nothing else of the song?  Really hope TIE is on the album as it was one of my favorite moments of her winter tour.

because it's kinda a rapper's song title hahah.
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: nutnlp on May 22, 2014, 02:22:11 pm
4. Blue Pool

Yay only 1 & 2 remain.
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: Arwen on May 22, 2014, 03:22:07 pm
Cannot wait for this to come out. Blue Pools sounds like an awesome song and seeing as Hear The Bells was my fave song from Rabbits and it was also #4, I have high hopes. I also hope TIE is on the album!!
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: nutnlp on May 22, 2014, 06:05:16 pm
Hear The Bells was track 5 on ROTR.
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: Arwen on May 22, 2014, 06:43:21 pm
Oh dang. I always think of it as #4 for some reason in my mind, haha. Still excited.
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: Fred_Saboya on May 22, 2014, 06:54:17 pm
fuck :(, no moneymaker! but its ok, i still love you vanessa. can't waaaaait for this record!

i'm kinda hoping her last song-title-tweet will be something like "xxxx - (x) Liberman. next single. here's the single cover and a link for the song. music video is coming tomorrow + behind the scenes and the album is coming out next week. bye" and then i have a heart attack and die.
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: nutnlp on May 22, 2014, 10:57:19 pm
haha! exactly what i was thinking! haha, track 1 seems to always be first single with her lately..so many she will save track 1 for last and give single info?  i am digging the slow unraveling of this record. it's cute and im glad she has embraced social media in a way she never did before.
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: Bruised on May 22, 2014, 10:58:06 pm
fuck :(, no moneymaker! but its ok, i still love you vanessa. can't waaaaait for this record!

i'm kinda hoping her last song-title-tweet will be something like "xxxx - (x) Liberman. next single. here's the single cover and a link for the song. music video is coming tomorrow + behind the scenes and the album is coming out next week. bye" and then i have a heart attack and die.


Lol i was just hoping for track title + single release date + album release date but i like your version much better hah
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: saphire on May 23, 2014, 02:20:42 am
I do miss Patience o.O

Maybe she integrated it into another song but I thought it was on that Blackboardpicture a while ago.
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: AG. on May 23, 2014, 04:14:43 am
Definitely in need of a behind the scenes video - I need it!

But I totally agree with you @fred_saboya - fingers double double crossed
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: Martin. on June 05, 2014, 12:45:19 pm
Vanessa Carlton's new album, "Liberman," is like a walk in the woods, which should come as no surprise from someone who grew up in her own tree-lined fantasyland near Milford, Pa., and the Delaware River.

Carlton hasn't spent much time in Pike County since her song "A Thousand Miles" took off in 2002, so the now 33-year-old singer-songwriter is looking forward to her upcoming area mini-tour, which includes a stop at the Newton Theatre. And from her comments, received in a recent email, she still cares deeply for the natural environs where she spent her youth.

"I'm happy this is close to home. I've never been to the Newton Theatre. I think my parents are gonna come. For me growing up in Milford was awesome. My parents lived on a house on a hill with weeping willow trees. The property in and around Milford and near the Delaware in general is magic. We must protect it," she said.

Carlton, who has released a single, "I'll Wait for You," on iTunes in advance of her fifth album, due out soon, will perform at the Newton Theatre on Friday, June 13 at 8 p.m. The tour also includes stops at World Cafe Live in Wilmington, Del., June 12, Westhampton Beach PAC in Westhampton, N.Y., June 15 and the Musikfest Cafe in Bethlehem, Pa., June 20.

Aside from nature, Carlton's interests in her youth were music and dance -- no surprise since her mother was a music teacher. At 14 she enrolled at the School of American Ballet at Lincoln Center in New York City. But by the time she graduated, she somehow knew her future was in music.

"I was always in choir growing up even when I was dancing. My switch from dance to music was natural. Music was always first," said Carlton, who considers herself a songwriter, first and foremost.

Carlton was signed to A&M Records in 2001 after working the New York club circuit for a time. After a few false starts, A&M finally released her first album, "Be Not Nobody," when Ron Fair took over production of the album. "Be Not Nobody" debuted at No. 5 on the Billboard 200 chart on the strength of the hit "A Thousand Miles," which had peaked at No. 5 on Billboard's Hot 100. The song garnered Grammy Award nominations for Record of the Year, Song of the Year and Best Instrumental Arrangement Accompanying Vocalist(s). The album went on to sell more than two million copies worldwide and produce two more singles, "Ordinary Day" and "Pretty Baby."

Carlton began touring in support of her debut album, opening for the Goo Goo Dolls and Third Eye Blind, before headlining her own U.S. and European tours in 2002 and 2003.

Carlton created three more albums between 2004 and 2011. Her second, "Harmonium," produced by Steve Jenkins of Third Eye Blind, was more representative of Carlton's own musical vision than her first. But her noncomformist attitude created a rift with the record company and she parted ways with A&M in 2005. Her third album, "Heroes and Thieves," debuted at No. 44 and was generally well received, as the single "Hands On Me" reached Billboard's Top 10.

"Rabbits on the Run" (Razer & Tie, 2011) followed a lost and reclusive period for Carlton, during which she was also listening to and soaking up all forms of music. The result was a melodic, unpredictable, lilting and atmospheric set of songs, recorded at Peter Gabriel's Real World studios in England with a team of collaborators led by producer Steve Osborne.

Back on track, Carlton has been working with Osborne again on her latest effort, and again they're changing the boundaries of her music.

"I wanted to go deeper into the atmospheric sounds that Steve Osborne and I created on ‘Rabbits on the Run.' This album, ‘Liberman,' is an album for headphones. The one that you listen to when you walk. It feels like a dream to me. And then at the end you wake up," Carlton said.

Carlton's quiet period between her third and fourth albums may have been due, in part, to burn-out -- working too hard and trying too hard to duplicate the success of "Be Not Nobody." Now older and wiser, she understands the difficulty of separating the art from the business, and of looking to the future with an open mind.

"Like most writers that get lucky with a song that everybody loves, you have no idea what's coming," Carlton said. "I treat all my songs the same and they all come to me in the same way. I love writing little instrumental riffs on the piano. I think that's what makes that song unique. The lyrics are basic. The structure is basic. The composing is me drawing on Aaron Copeland's ‘Rodeo'."

Carlton, who married Deer Tick singer John McCauley last December, doesn't know what's on her horizon -- more recordings and tours, scoring for motion pictures, dancing or acting are possibilities.

One thing she is sure of is that she will continue growing ... "like the trees" in Milford.

Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: Fred_Saboya on June 05, 2014, 01:34:28 pm
GOD, I WANT IT SO BAD!
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: AG. on June 08, 2014, 07:50:53 am
http://www.examiner.com/article/exclusive-grammy-nominee-vanessa-carlton-on-liberman-nashville-surfrider

Another interview, with some emphasis on Liberman:

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You said back in April that your new album, "Liberman," was in the process of being mastered. How close are we to a release date now?

Well, we don't have a release date yet, but the album is totally complete. We're working on the visual art to go along with the record.... I'm really excited to get it out there, but I don't have any more info yet for you, sorry.
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: VaderDawsn on June 08, 2014, 05:07:23 pm
http://www.examiner.com/article/exclusive-grammy-nominee-vanessa-carlton-on-liberman-nashville-surfrider

Another interview, with some emphasis on Liberman:

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You said back in April that your new album, "Liberman," was in the process of being mastered. How close are we to a release date now?

Well, we don't have a release date yet, but the album is totally complete. We're working on the visual art to go along with the record.... I'm really excited to get it out there, but I don't have any more info yet for you, sorry.

So close, yet so far away from the album!
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: Rabbits_on_the_run on June 09, 2014, 12:11:06 am
TAKE IT EASY IS ON THE RECORD!!!!!!!!!!! :D
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: saphire on June 09, 2014, 12:55:27 am
I need this record !!! NOW !!!! I really want to hear it -.-
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: sarab on June 09, 2014, 05:57:24 am
album won't be out until next YEAR!
she played Willows (with an S, I was wrong :) on the good day ny show so i'm guessing that is the first single and so maybe first track?  we'll see... next year!
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: AG. on June 09, 2014, 06:01:14 am
IT seems odd to publicise it so early, I seem to remember that all the Rabbits stuff was on the immediate lead up to the release...

I really hope Vanessa is toying with us, but I reckon it might have something to do with being signed to a label or something like that.
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: Alex0821 on June 09, 2014, 12:22:51 pm
album won't be out until next YEAR!
she played Willows (with an S, I was wrong :) on the good day ny show so i'm guessing that is the first single and so maybe first track?  we'll see... next year!

I just came on here to post about this! I'm a little bummed we won't be getting it until next year... I'm wondering why, to be honest. Since the album is finished... do they think it'll take that long to finish making the visuals (which could mean album art, music video(s), etc), or is there another reason? Guess we'll have to wait and see  :P
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: _all_is_well_ on June 09, 2014, 05:08:56 pm
album won't be out until next YEAR!
she played Willows (with an S, I was wrong :) on the good day ny show so i'm guessing that is the first single and so maybe first track?  we'll see... next year!

I just came on here to post about this! I'm a little bummed we won't be getting it until next year... I'm wondering why, to be honest. Since the album is finished... do they think it'll take that long to finish making the visuals (which could mean album art, music video(s), etc), or is there another reason? Guess we'll have to wait and see  :P

It probably has to do with her label and promotion. I can not think of any other reason.
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: TRINIST on June 09, 2014, 06:04:21 pm
So the final tracklist is:

1. Take it Easy
2. Willows
3. House of Seven Swords
4. Blue Pool
5. Young Heart
6. Nothing where Something used to Be
7. A Matter of Time
8. Unlock the Lock
9. River
10. Ascension

Super bummed about the delay :(. I't's probably not her choice, I don't see why she would want to sit on a finished album for a year. I'd be over it/bored and writing something new by the time it's out.
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: Alex0821 on June 10, 2014, 09:22:18 am
She just tweeted this:

"I have a good reason for album delay. Ill be able to give ya more info in about 4 weeks. Thanks for the patience."

Now I feel kinda bad for not having "Patience" :P Hopefully it's not something bad. Maybe she's pregnant again (or they're trying to have a baby) and she doesn't want to be promoting the album while that's going on? That's just my random guess!
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: AG. on June 10, 2014, 09:27:41 am
I was thinking along the same lines too! Especially, considering what happened last year, so I guess, if she is, she'll be keeping a very close eye on things.
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: sarab on June 10, 2014, 11:58:02 am
She just tweeted this:

"I have a good reason for album delay. Ill be able to give ya more info in about 4 weeks. Thanks for the patience."

Now I feel kinda bad for not having "Patience" :P Hopefully it's not something bad. Maybe she's pregnant again (or they're trying to have a baby) and she doesn't want to be promoting the album while that's going on? That's just my random guess!

that would be wonderful for her! I hope that's it!
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: AG. on June 10, 2014, 12:23:34 pm
Looking at the Twitter comments, it seems that so many other people are thinking the same! Fingers crossed for Vanessa and John! :)
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: Fred_Saboya on June 10, 2014, 02:27:15 pm
She just tweeted this:

"I have a good reason for album delay. Ill be able to give ya more info in about 4 weeks. Thanks for the patience."

Now I feel kinda bad for not having "Patience" :P Hopefully it's not something bad. Maybe she's pregnant again (or they're trying to have a baby) and she doesn't want to be promoting the album while that's going on? That's just my random guess!

i felt bad too when i read the tweet. sorry Vanessa hahah.
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: Alex0821 on June 26, 2014, 09:09:12 am
Well it's confirmed - "Liberman" will be released Summer 2015 cuz there's a baby on the way!

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Hey All,

 I can now reveal the reason as to why Liberman will not be released until next summer. See the picture below. No, those aren't a bunch of croissants. We're expecting a baby. It’s healthy and moving around like a champ. I’m bummed to delay the album because it's so special to me and the perfect combination of England and Tennessee. When I put the record on it feels like medicine. I hope it does the same for you…in due time!

 Thanks for sticking with me. John, Victor and I are over the moon.

 Love,
 Vanessa

https://www.facebook.com/vanessacarlton/photos/a.10150354421431429.353431.24127846428/10152272325946429/?type=1&theater
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: Martin. on June 26, 2014, 09:14:21 am
Yay. So so happy for her (and John)!!! :D
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: pswik91 on June 26, 2014, 09:15:57 am
Kulp and Nicole I had a feeling she'd announce right after the PA show!! I'm so happy for her and John!! Congrats V:)
That also explains why she wore that short dress that was rather flowy that night!!
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: AG. on June 26, 2014, 09:43:23 am
We all called it! So so happy for both of them. Now to start guessing the sex of the baby! :)
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: KULPDOGG on June 26, 2014, 06:46:33 pm
Kulp and Nicole I had a feeling she'd announce right after the PA show!! I'm so happy for her and John!! Congrats V:)
That also explains why she wore that short dress that was rather flowy that night!!

haha yeah.

I love how she used a photo of the Bethlehem Steel Stacks in the background to announce this!!
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: Arwen on June 26, 2014, 11:23:58 pm
I was hoping this was the reason for the album delay! So happy for them!!  :D
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: AG. on June 28, 2014, 08:36:20 am
Guys, look what John's posted on instragram!!!

http://web.stagram.com/p/752372880638876538_55291925

(Spoiler Alert - if you don't want to know the sex of the baby  ;))

Isn't that the cutest little bloblet of a baby you've ever seen?! I'm so happy for the pair of them I don't really mind about the delay anymore
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: sarab on June 28, 2014, 09:10:10 am
Guys, look what John's posted on instragram!!!

http://web.stagram.com/p/752372880638876538_55291925

(Spoiler Alert - if you don't want to know the sex of the baby  ;))

Isn't that the cutest little bloblet of a baby you've ever seen?! I'm so happy for the pair of them I don't really mind about the delay anymore

I knew just by her belly shape! yay!
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: pswik91 on June 29, 2014, 08:19:27 pm
Kulp and Nicole I had a feeling she'd announce right after the PA show!! I'm so happy for her and John!! Congrats V:)
That also explains why she wore that short dress that was rather flowy that night!!

haha yeah.

I love how she used a photo of the Bethlehem Steel Stacks in the background to announce this!!

oh i know, right? but it was such a cool backdrop haha! congrats on the baby girl V =)))
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: williansouza908 on December 26, 2014, 11:27:04 pm
Liberman leaked please someone send the audio to me in the 4shared or mediafire here in the Brazil this video this without audio please send to me thank you VC liberman.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QuqakBa5i7A&feature=em-uploademail&gl=GB
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: Vitor Mendes on December 26, 2014, 11:41:00 pm
How come?! I'm also from Brazil!
Cant hear a thing! Someone please rip the audio and host it!!!!!

edit: D*mn it, it seems YouTube has already taken it down!
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: Vitor Mendes on December 27, 2014, 12:35:24 am
There's a link in the video! I'm downloading it!!!!
OMGGGG Still in shock :o
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: saphire on December 27, 2014, 02:53:05 am
the link doesn't work anymore !!!
Can someone help and bring it back o.o
send me an PM or something.
PLEASE !!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: williansouza908 on December 27, 2014, 01:56:44 pm
Send me an PM also please a link to download pleaseeeeeeeeeeeee :'(
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: Harmonium on December 27, 2014, 02:48:51 pm
The whole album? Yikes.
I really hope this don't leak all over internet half a year before release.
And I don't really know if I could fight the temptation of listening if it does.

Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: HearMyBells on December 27, 2014, 02:54:03 pm
If this is real please PM me :-)

The album art looks dope as well.
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: Harmonium on December 27, 2014, 02:58:55 pm
If this is real please PM me :-)

The album art looks dope as well.

Can you see the album art? Where?
I'm intrigued. I see nothing when press the link.
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: HearMyBells on December 27, 2014, 03:03:43 pm
Oh sorry hahaha.

Top right corner of this link:

http://www.freenewspos.com/en/latest/album%20countries/
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: Harmonium on December 27, 2014, 03:09:02 pm
Oh sorry hahaha.

Top right corner of this link:

http://www.freenewspos.com/en/latest/album%20countries/

Ah, thanks. I don't think this is the album art. Or i hope it isn't:P A promo cover maybe?
An old paper background and a typewriter font don't do it for me:P
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: TRINIST on December 27, 2014, 03:46:32 pm
Did anyone actually get this? If so could I please grab a link? :(
Also maybe we should keep this to the registered members only section...
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: Vitor Mendes on December 27, 2014, 04:52:43 pm
Hey, guys! I swear I cried all day 'cause I didn't get to download it :(  Link expired at the very beginning and my connection here sucks!
But I listened to it briefly before the audio went off! Nothing Where Something Used to be is definitely my favorite and it reminds me of Dear California in a slower, strange way <3
The youtube user sent me a message and said that someone told him to take it off of youtube not to prejudice Vanessa. He also said that he got it from a friend who knows Steve Osborne or an Australian guy or something. I don't know, his message was terribly written. Let me try to find it and I'll paste it here.
Has anyone got it???  :o :o :o :o Link please
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: williansouza908 on December 27, 2014, 05:34:34 pm
Hey, guys! I swear I cried all day 'cause I didn't get to download it :(  Link expired at the very beginning and my connection here sucks!
But I listened to it briefly before the audio went off! Nothing Where Something Used to be is definitely my favorite and it reminds me of Dear California in a slower, strange way <3
The youtube user sent me a message and said that someone told him to take it off of youtube not to prejudice Vanessa. He also said that he got it from a friend who knows Steve Osborne or an Australian guy or something. I don't know, his message was terribly written. Let me try to find it and I'll paste it here.
Has anyone got it???  :o :o :o :o Link please

I swear I cried also all day also :'(
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: remixx on December 27, 2014, 06:28:28 pm
so random and early! Link plz
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: nutnlp on December 27, 2014, 06:30:14 pm
Some Twitter account that was made today tweeted me of the leak.  I have no clue how they found me unless they searched through tweets and found one i sent Vanessa weeks ago regarding Liberman.  I hope the album isnt leaked to publicly and can remain amoung fans who will still buy the album like we did with Rabbits.
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: williansouza908 on December 27, 2014, 06:49:08 pm
I sent a message to him the video in the youtube and I received this message


Hears da thing: my mate who works in audio mixing in australia knows dis 1 guy who knows this other canadian guy who haz contact with the osborne, and apprntly let him have a listen. so he recorded the whole thin and he has it since august. when i told im im a fan of nessa he sent to me this wav file which is what i uploaded to youtube. he also said the plan was to go for a digital only release on itunes in the summer, at firts, but now they decidd to release the digital and phisical copy altogether in the fall.da 1st single is willows, but they maight go with take it easy instead.
A fella reached outta me and --kindly- asked me to remove the audio bcz it would affect vanessa, so thats why i decided to cut it out. i ask u please do the same.
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: Vitor Mendes on December 27, 2014, 07:14:24 pm
I sent a message to him the video in the youtube and I received this message


Hears da thing: my mate who works in audio mixing in australia knows dis 1 guy who knows this other canadian guy who haz contact with the osborne, and apprntly let him have a listen. so he recorded the whole thin and he has it since august. when i told im im a fan of nessa he sent to me this wav file which is what i uploaded to youtube. he also said the plan was to go for a digital only release on itunes in the summer, at firts, but now they decidd to release the digital and phisical copy altogether in the fall.da 1st single is willows, but they maight go with take it easy instead.
A fella reached outta me and --kindly- asked me to remove the audio bcz it would affect vanessa, so thats why i decided to cut it out. i ask u please do the same.

That's the exact same message the user sent me.
If only I had downloaded it I could think about not sharing it as he/she asked LOL So pissed at my internet connection!
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: williansouza908 on December 27, 2014, 07:18:21 pm
I sent a message to him the video in the youtube and I received this message


Hears da thing: my mate who works in audio mixing in australia knows dis 1 guy who knows this other canadian guy who haz contact with the osborne, and apprntly let him have a listen. so he recorded the whole thin and he has it since august. when i told im im a fan of nessa he sent to me this wav file which is what i uploaded to youtube. he also said the plan was to go for a digital only release on itunes in the summer, at firts, but now they decidd to release the digital and phisical copy altogether in the fall.da 1st single is willows, but they maight go with take it easy instead.
A fella reached outta me and --kindly- asked me to remove the audio bcz it would affect vanessa, so thats why i decided to cut it out. i ask u please do the same.

That's the exact same message the user sent me.
If only I had downloaded it I could think about not sharing it as he/she asked LOL So pissed at my internet connection!

I sent back a message asking to send the audio we'll see what happens
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: Alex0821 on December 27, 2014, 10:57:25 pm
holy crap, I don't check this site for ONE DAY and all of this happens.
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: Rabbits_on_the_run on December 28, 2014, 03:04:23 am
If someone has it, could you please PM me! Thanks so much!!!!
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: Rabbits_on_the_run on December 28, 2014, 08:22:21 am
I sent a message to him the video in the youtube and I received this message


Hears da thing: my mate who works in audio mixing in australia knows dis 1 guy who knows this other canadian guy who haz contact with the osborne, and apprntly let him have a listen. so he recorded the whole thin and he has it since august. when i told im im a fan of nessa he sent to me this wav file which is what i uploaded to youtube. he also said the plan was to go for a digital only release on itunes in the summer, at firts, but now they decidd to release the digital and phisical copy altogether in the fall.da 1st single is willows, but they maight go with take it easy instead.
A fella reached outta me and --kindly- asked me to remove the audio bcz it would affect vanessa, so thats why i decided to cut it out. i ask u please do the same.


So glad they changed their minds about releasing the record only digitally. Vanessa's albums deserve a proper release. I still hope for a Grammy nomination and hopefully win someday soon.
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: TRINIST on December 28, 2014, 09:16:32 am
I am of course going to buy it physically, but i'm not overjoyed with it meaning more delays. :(
The album will have been finished for so long by the time we actually get it. Still excited though!
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: HearMyBells on December 28, 2014, 10:22:09 am
I am of course going to buy it physically, but i'm not overjoyed with it meaning more delays. :(
The album will have been finished for so long by the time we actually get it. Still excited though!

Wishful thinking: Maybe album 6 will come out in 2016... :-)

I wish her turnarounds were faster... haha
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: Fred_Saboya on December 28, 2014, 11:02:45 am
WHAAAAAT I NEED IT
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: Fred_Saboya on December 28, 2014, 11:51:00 am
does anyone know the name of the youtube user who uploaded the video? i wanna try and talk to him.
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: williansouza908 on December 28, 2014, 12:02:11 pm
does anyone know the name of the youtube user who uploaded the video? i wanna try and talk to him.

Here https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwCc36myxLSIT4ofpfOKC2Q
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: Fred_Saboya on December 28, 2014, 12:19:10 pm
does anyone know the name of the youtube user who uploaded the video? i wanna try and talk to him.

Here https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwCc36myxLSIT4ofpfOKC2Q

thank you. but i cant seem to find where to send him a direct message haha. i posted it on the discussion page but i think thats not what i wanted to do.
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: williansouza908 on December 28, 2014, 12:24:00 pm
does anyone know the name of the youtube user who uploaded the video? i wanna try and talk to him.

Here https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwCc36myxLSIT4ofpfOKC2Q

thank you. but i cant seem to find where to send him a direct message haha. i posted it on the discussion page but i think thats not what i wanted to do.

Sign up in the channel give the sure
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: williansouza908 on December 28, 2014, 12:38:04 pm
HELLO KULPDOGG

Publish willows blue pool and ancension to us because Liberman already leaked
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: Alex0821 on December 28, 2014, 12:41:27 pm
You guys are so thirsty...
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: Ghisy on December 28, 2014, 02:07:17 pm
Ugh, can't believe I missed it by a freaking day!  :'(

Another 6 to 12 months to wait then...
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: williansouza908 on December 28, 2014, 03:14:50 pm
does anyone know the name of the youtube user who uploaded the video? i wanna try and talk to him.

Here https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwCc36myxLSIT4ofpfOKC2Q

thank you. but i cant seem to find where to send him a direct message haha. i posted it on the discussion page but i think thats not what i wanted to do.

Here fred saboya in the twitter https://twitter.com/WpngWillow?lang=pt
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: Vitor Mendes on December 28, 2014, 05:27:01 pm
I just cannot believe this! It makes me effing cry that I didn't run and downloaded the audio from the video :'(
It's so hard being a fan of Vanessa... We're pretty much always in the dark when it comes to info - except for casual cryptic messages which will only make sense when we no longer need them and furniture photos. We always have to wait so much for like 10 songs maximum and 2 video singles only.
Why don't people who have the chance to interview her never actually ask what her fans want to know? Like whatever happened to some songs we know exist but never got out, not even as bonus tracks? And will we ever listen to them? Why isn't there at least one live DVD out? Not a single full professional recording! There are so many smaller artists who've got more than 2 live projects while we have to be ok with bootlegs.
I'm sorry for all this, it's just that her work means so much to me and I get very emotional.
But I really can't help feeling that there are things she could do for us fans and she doesn't. It makes me sad. Many of you may have already been to several of her concerts, but truth is I haven't and the chances of me flying from Brazil to the USA are really thin. That's why an official DVD is so called for, to begin with.
Woah, I let out a lot of things. I simply don't have anyone to talk to about Vanessa.
On the other hand, it wouldn't be such a bad thing if Liberman widely leaked because it could make them want to release it sooner. Just look at what happened to Madonna, for example.
I think we deserve a little anticipated release as a gift for always having to wait so much.
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: KULPDOGG on December 28, 2014, 06:18:42 pm
HELLO KULPDOGG

Publish willows blue pool and ancension to us because Liberman already leaked


why do you keep targeting me?
I am not the only one with those songs, and no, I will not release them, you can stop emailing me now. thank you.
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: williansouza908 on December 28, 2014, 06:24:37 pm
HELLO KULPDOGG

Publish willows blue pool and ancension to us because Liberman already leaked


why do you keep targeting me?
I am not the only one with those songs, and no, I will not release them, you can stop emailing me now. thank you.

Here nobody has now we depend on vanessa
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: Martin. on December 28, 2014, 08:51:53 pm
Exciting! :)
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: Vitor Mendes on December 28, 2014, 10:23:29 pm
Here nobody has now we depend on vanessa
That means that we're gonna have to wait until 2016 as the album will probably get delayed again - as usual - and then she'll end up replacing some songs and we'll never know what happened to the ones we didn't even get to listen to. Oh well, that's what it's like being her fan LOL
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: Rabbits_on_the_run on December 29, 2014, 12:56:10 am
Here nobody has now we depend on vanessa
That means that we're gonna have to wait until 2016 as the album will probably get delayed again - as usual - and then she'll end up replacing some songs and we'll never know what happened to the ones we didn't even get to listen to. Oh well, that's what it's like being her fan LOL
I genuinely think the record will be out in 2015, remember it's already delayed. I know it's worth the wait!
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: private-radio on December 29, 2014, 03:52:41 am
For those who have the songs, I think it’s great you decide not to release them. Vanessa Carlton has the best fans of the world. Madonna should be jealous !
KULPDOGG, could you let us know your first feelings about this new stuff?
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: AG. on December 29, 2014, 06:26:32 am
Wow, seems like I've missed a lot over the Christmas holiday...

Also, someone's tweeted Vanessa asking her if the leaked cover is for the album, with the picture with the typewriter font, and she just responded 'nope', so I'm guessing she knows now that it's out there somewhere, even if she didn't before. I was hoping that she might give us some news too, or an update, but especially now with her due date being not far around the corner, she might be a bit preoccupied elsewhere!
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: williansouza908 on December 29, 2014, 11:14:43 am
Wow, seems like I've missed a lot over the Christmas holiday...

Also, someone's tweeted Vanessa asking her if the leaked cover is for the album, with the picture with the typewriter font, and she just responded 'nope', so I'm guessing she knows now that it's out there somewhere, even if she didn't before. I was hoping that she might give us some news too, or an update, but especially now with her due date being not far around the corner, she might be a bit preoccupied elsewhere!

This guy was I
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: nutnlp on December 29, 2014, 03:14:31 pm
The album is great i cant wait to buy vinyl, cd and digital.  Vanessa owns my wallet whenever the time comes.   I will say this though...it can't be too thrilling as an artist to release/ tour on material that she has played live and completed more than a year prior.  Kind of wish this could be a digital release w/ a very limited physical release so she could write and record new stuff in 2015.  She is going to be a new mom and i cant wait to see how that influences her songs.
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: saphire on December 30, 2014, 05:07:04 am
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The album is great i cant wait to buy vinyl, cd and digital.

Does this comment mean you have the leaked Version of the album ?
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: williansouza908 on December 30, 2014, 01:49:51 pm
The album is great i cant wait to buy vinyl, cd and digital.

hey natnlp do you have Liberman?? Could you send it to me? I'm totally gonna buy the album when it comes out. I'm also a real fan!!
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: lilwizardman_gelo on December 30, 2014, 10:06:36 pm
Guys... Seriously, asking around for the leak is disrespectful to Vanessa.
Wait for the official release. Be respectful of the artist.
Seeing these multiple posts being happy of the leak upsets me.
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: lavender skies on January 01, 2015, 12:10:50 pm
Can someone send it to me? When Rabbits leaked I bought the digital copy, a cd copy, and a vinyl album.
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: williansouza908 on January 01, 2015, 03:19:28 pm
I bought about 30 copies of rabbits and I will buy some 30 also of Liberman
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: Martin. on January 02, 2015, 10:10:34 am
"Matter of Time" is gorgeous.
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: SparksFly on January 02, 2015, 11:02:23 pm
I missed a lot too. Can someone pretty please PM me?
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: _all_is_well_ on January 04, 2015, 11:15:39 pm
If anyone has this please PM me. I will of course still buy it when it comes out.
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: _all_is_well_ on January 04, 2015, 11:22:19 pm
If anyone has this please PM me. I will of course still buy it when it comes out.

Even if no one wants to share, I would like to know if anyone actually listened to it? Or is this a false alarm?
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: saphire on January 05, 2015, 12:23:12 am
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Even if no one wants to share, I would like to know if anyone actually listened to it? Or is this a false alarm?

I think no one here has the album or did even listen to it. Otherwise it would have been shared somehow I think. All we had was this Youtube-Video that was online one day and had sound for like an hour until the sound got cut out and a few comments below the vid that have been pretty random and without specific content about the songs. That's it.

Think we have to go on waiting  :(
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: sarab on January 07, 2015, 08:24:02 am
holy crap, I don't check this site for ONE DAY and all of this happens.

right????  well, I for one am glad I didn't get the temptation to download.  I want to experience this album as purely new when it comes out, whenever that may be.  I haven't even listened to any of my own recordings so that they will be fresh.
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: Emmyspiano on January 12, 2015, 09:51:43 am
Oh my goodness. I havent checked this forum in forever. I feel bad the album leaked but for the lucky few who heard it, I hope it sounded fantastic. People need to relax...stop asking Kulp for the leak and stop asking in general. You will hear the album when its released. And for goodness sakes Vanessa is having a baby which is a HUGE deal. She is a person with a husband and a baby. She isnt just a musician, she has a life so give her time to enjoy being a mother and be patient for the music.
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: williansouza908 on January 24, 2015, 03:04:01 pm
Liberman leaked again that sad not being able to hear again the password does not work :'(

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Ohr6XfabAk
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: pswik91 on January 25, 2015, 11:24:10 pm
I think this is a new low for some people. It's just a sleezy move on some people's parts to release an artist's album without their permission before official announcements were made.  I really wish people would respect V's privacy and wishes to release the album at a later date, I mean she went through a lot the past couple years, just give her time to enjoy her new family and life.  It just really upsets me that people would go to lengths to spam the album all over the Internet and claim they will "buy" a lot of copies when it comes out.  Everyone needs to have"patience," in due time she will release the album or she won't. As true fans we should stick by her side and wait it out.
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: saphire on January 26, 2015, 12:47:37 am
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Liberman leaked again that sad not being able to hear again the password does not work Cry

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Ohr6XfabAk

Sorry Liberman. But this sounds like a classic fake some one put up. Don't think this is the real "Liberman" at all ;)
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: pswik91 on January 26, 2015, 05:01:27 am
V responded to my tweet and said that the album is not leaked and whatever people think they have, they don't.  So, rest easy phantom friends :)
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: Rabbits_on_the_run on January 26, 2015, 07:46:44 am
Well... people hear have heard it so I guess she just doesn't know that it did leak. Either that or, those people lied...
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: coyote_revolver on January 28, 2015, 08:58:37 am
Wow, I missed a lot!  wonder if those leaks were real...

Waiting for V's albums is always a test for my patience xD but this time around I'm really curious about the artwork; I've always liked that Vanessa still talkes the time to create meaningful sleeve jackets and CD art, unlike most of her contemporaries.
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: nutnlp on January 31, 2015, 04:27:59 pm
I said the album is great (from the 80 percent live versions we've heard) lol and I got like 10 DMs asking for the album.
I haven't heard it.  I don't think anyone has.  Haha, just like V said.

I can't wait to buy 48494 copies like I've been doing for 13 years. And showwsssssss.
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: nutnlp on February 08, 2015, 04:37:10 pm
Haha @ Kulp...probably devastated!
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: Vitor Mendes on February 17, 2015, 10:11:56 am
I definitely listened to something, and I'm pretty sure it WAS what is supposed to be Liberman.
What I think Vanessa could have meant is that she might have or will still make some changes to it, so what has leaked is, in fact, not Liberman after all.
Besides, what happened to this?

I am not the only one with those songs, and no, I will not release them, you can stop emailing me now. thank you.

If this is true, and I think we can all trust a member such as KULPDOGG, the album DID leak and more than a few people have it. Only they won't share it.
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: KULPDOGG on February 18, 2015, 07:04:43 am
I definitely listened to something, and I'm pretty sure it WAS what is supposed to be Liberman.
What I think Vanessa could have meant is that she might have or will still make some changes to it, so what has leaked is, in fact, not Liberman after all.
Besides, what happened to this?

I am not the only one with those songs, and no, I will not release them, you can stop emailing me now. thank you.

If this is true, and I think we can all trust a member such as KULPDOGG, the album DID leak and more than a few people have it. Only they won't share it.

i'm not talking about the entire album, i was talking about the 3-song preview.
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: williansouza908 on February 25, 2015, 03:17:47 pm
I sent a message to him the video in the youtube and I received this message


Hears da thing: my mate who works in audio mixing in australia knows dis 1 guy who knows this other canadian guy who haz contact with the osborne, and apprntly let him have a listen. so he recorded the whole thin and he has it since august. when i told im im a fan of nessa he sent to me this wav file which is what i uploaded to youtube. he also said the plan was to go for a digital only release on itunes in the summer, at firts, but now they decidd to release the digital and phisical copy altogether in the fall.da 1st single is willows, but they maight go with take it easy instead.
A fella reached outta me and --kindly- asked me to remove the audio bcz it would affect vanessa, so thats why i decided to cut it out. i ask u please do the same.


This is happening the person of the video leaked Said it would be released liberman in the fall then willows or take it easy is the first single from Liberman I want willows
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: coldyoungheart on February 26, 2015, 05:00:34 pm
Although I love love love Willows, I hope that they'll choose Take it Easy for the single. I think that it would be more successful. It's so entrancing.
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: MrMoon on March 10, 2015, 09:22:48 pm

hi new to the board, been reading for years though. user status recently approved. ok, now that that's out of the way, V posted this to IG today. so beautiful!

https://instagram.com/p/0EVEr4MdoB/
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: Manny on March 11, 2015, 07:51:19 am
Although I love love love Willows, I hope that they'll choose Take it Easy for the single. I think that it would be more successful. It's so entrancing.

Me too!  ;D ;)
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: Fred_Saboya on March 11, 2015, 11:41:36 am

hi new to the board, been reading for years though. user status recently approved. ok, now that that's out of the way, V posted this to IG today. so beautiful!

https://instagram.com/p/0EVEr4MdoB/


LOVES IT!

i wonder which one is that.

i cant wait.
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: darren1711 on March 20, 2015, 02:59:35 pm

hi new to the board, been reading for years though. user status recently approved. ok, now that that's out of the way, V posted this to IG today. so beautiful!

https://instagram.com/p/0EVEr4MdoB/


I'm obsessed with this. Can't stop listening, just wish it was longer.
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: MrMoon on March 24, 2015, 08:41:33 pm
i'm wondering if she's added new songs to the album. i mean, she's played 6 of them live already.
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: pswik91 on March 27, 2015, 05:31:44 pm
The more I think about this Instagram preview the more confused I am about it... Here are my thoughts:

It can't be any of the following songs cause she played six of them live already:
Willow
Take it Easy
House of 7 Swords
Young Heart
Matter of Time
Unlock the Lock

I also know for a fact that it's not Blue Pool or Ascension... So, what does that leave us with?  I'm thinking it has to be River or
Nothing Where Something Used to Be.  Or maybe she just looped a preview of Patience( but how could that be when she confirmed only 10 tracks at that wasn't one of them)?   But if you pause the Instagram video you can see that it has ten tracks listed, then the one that is check marked is #11 and that's what she's playing in the background, or maybe I'm looking way too much into this. Who the heck knows, I'll be patiently waiting for the album release though.  

(UPDATE I uploaded the screenshot I took if anyone wants to comment...   (http://i1195.photobucket.com/albums/aa394/pswik91/Untitled_zpsmwpiinbm.jpg) (http://s1195.photobucket.com/user/pswik91/media/Untitled_zpsmwpiinbm.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: sarab on March 28, 2015, 02:07:08 pm
the box that is check marked looks like it actually says her name..
maybe it's check marked as in a "play all" option?  so it's like a playlist name? I don't know much about music programs that either record or play music so I could be way off base about that, but I definitely think it's two words and the second one starts with a "C"
when I tip my lap top screen I can actually see it better and it doesn't have a number like the others above it.  I see River is second to last and Ascension is last
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: MrMoon on April 03, 2015, 11:33:14 pm
i definitely see it as her name. so probably one of those two songs. what's the vibe of blue pool and ascension? dark? bright? major? minor? piano? guitar?

ALSO idk if anyone here ever came across it (though i'm certain a particular member here did find it as they messaged me the same way as they do people on here ;)), but i covered Willows a while back based solely on the live version.

https://soundcloud.com/sonatore/willows-vanessa-carlton-cover
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: Fred_Saboya on April 04, 2015, 07:58:49 am
i definitely see it as her name. so probably one of those two songs. what's the vibe of blue pool and ascension? dark? bright? major? minor? piano? guitar?

ALSO idk if anyone here ever came across it (though i'm certain a particular member here did find it as they messaged me the same way as they do people on here ;)), but i covered Willows a while back based solely on the live version.

https://soundcloud.com/sonatore/willows-vanessa-carlton-cover

oh i did find this a while ago! i was sure it was a nessaholic haha. good job! dope.
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: MrMoon on April 11, 2015, 09:43:36 am
out of curiosity, for those that already have willows, how does it differ from the live version?
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: nutnlp on April 11, 2015, 07:34:51 pm
nobody has the songs...vanessa said herself...fans were just trying to make others jealous.
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: Fred_Saboya on April 15, 2015, 03:26:59 pm
nobody has the songs...vanessa said herself...fans were just trying to make others jealous.

no, they actually do have "ascension", "blue pool" and "willows".
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: TRINIST on April 20, 2015, 07:37:51 am
'Young Heart' premiere!
http://www.esquire.com/entertainment/music/a34461/exclusive-listen-to-vanessa-carlton-young-heart/ (http://www.esquire.com/entertainment/music/a34461/exclusive-listen-to-vanessa-carlton-young-heart/)

This song actually won't be on the album apparently. V signs to Dine Alone records for album release in fall.
http://dinealonerecords.com/news/vanessa-carlton-signs-to-dine-alone-new-album-liberman-out-fall-2015/ (http://dinealonerecords.com/news/vanessa-carlton-signs-to-dine-alone-new-album-liberman-out-fall-2015/)
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: KULPDOGG on April 20, 2015, 08:32:40 am
'Young Heart' premiere!
http://www.esquire.com/entertainment/music/a34461/exclusive-listen-to-vanessa-carlton-young-heart/ (http://www.esquire.com/entertainment/music/a34461/exclusive-listen-to-vanessa-carlton-young-heart/)

This song actually won't be on the album apparently. V signs to Dine Alone records for album release in fall.
http://dinealonerecords.com/news/vanessa-carlton-signs-to-dine-alone-new-album-liberman-out-fall-2015/ (http://dinealonerecords.com/news/vanessa-carlton-signs-to-dine-alone-new-album-liberman-out-fall-2015/)

anyone rip the audio from this yet?



here's the link for the soundcloud-player ONLY:
link (https://w.soundcloud.com/player/?url=https%3A//api.soundcloud.com/tracks/201262355%3Fsecret_token%3Ds-k4VbM&amp;auto_play=false&amp;hide_related=false&amp;show_comments=true&amp;show_user=true&amp;show_reposts=false&amp;visual=true)
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: [sobriquet] on April 20, 2015, 08:36:05 am
'Young Heart' premiere!
http://www.esquire.com/entertainment/music/a34461/exclusive-listen-to-vanessa-carlton-young-heart/ (http://www.esquire.com/entertainment/music/a34461/exclusive-listen-to-vanessa-carlton-young-heart/)

This song actually won't be on the album apparently. V signs to Dine Alone records for album release in fall.
http://dinealonerecords.com/news/vanessa-carlton-signs-to-dine-alone-new-album-liberman-out-fall-2015/ (http://dinealonerecords.com/news/vanessa-carlton-signs-to-dine-alone-new-album-liberman-out-fall-2015/)

anyone rip the audio from this yet?

Yes, someone do so, please!!!
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: KULPDOGG on April 20, 2015, 09:19:20 am
edit -- song is available to download officially for 99 cents. check itunes and amazon
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: coyote_revolver on April 20, 2015, 09:37:26 am
The song is so lovely! I really like the lyrics and the guitar riffs at the end were cool :)

But wait, this won't be on the album? :O
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: coldyoungheart on April 20, 2015, 10:48:47 am
I SCREAMED when I saw this  :o. It actually took me a while to calm down before I could listen to the song lol. At first I was little taken aback because it sounds so different from the live version(of course it would, but still!), but wow, it's gorgeous. Haunting and beautiful. Reminds me of Hear the Bells a little. Especially how echo-y her voice sounds. The only thing I miss from the live version is the 'when you go, I will follow, when you go aaaaah I will follooooow'. It was my favourite part to sing along to lol.

I'm actually really glad that she won't be releasing it on Liberman(which they mention in this http://www.esquire.com/entertainment/music/a34461/exclusive-listen-to-vanessa-carlton-young-heart/ article - they call it a 'pre-single'), because it probably means we'll get a new song that we haven't heard yet!
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: coldyoungheart on April 20, 2015, 10:50:01 am

please don't share this outside this message board. and do not mention my name. thank you.
https://www.mediafire.com/?9s1lultlyoaa1yo
this is ".aiff" which is compatible with itunes.
you're welcome.


Thank you very much Kulp :) Having to listen to it continuously on Soundcloud would have become annoying!
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: Alex0821 on April 20, 2015, 02:27:07 pm
It's so pretty! The bridge in particular is fabulous. And thank you so much, Kulp!
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Post by: VaderDawsn on April 20, 2015, 02:54:33 pm
Loving it! Thank you for sharing!
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Post by: cassiemoy on April 20, 2015, 04:02:33 pm
thank god they've decided to release a track that got cut (still kills me to think of best behavior ... were all is well & morning sting ever recorded?) - i actually think studio is quite faithful to live - and has been ever since she's gone for spare/atmospheric. love it.
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: coldyoungheart on April 20, 2015, 07:57:42 pm
Do you guys think that Young Heart will be released on iTunes any time soon?

--edit--

Never mind, I just checked and it's on iTunes. Just bought it. I'm surprised that Vanessa didn't tweet about the iTunes release...
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: Alex0821 on April 21, 2015, 02:45:17 am
Just bought it on iTunes! Maybe they'll tweet about it later today, since new music usually gets released on Tuesdays.
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: VaderDawsn on April 21, 2015, 03:35:10 am
Thanks for letting me know it was for sale.
Downloaded it from Amazon!
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: KULPDOGG on April 21, 2015, 05:33:53 am
if anyone is curious or needs it: the link to the official artwork is here: full size: http://dinealonerecords.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/YoungHeartCover.jpg (http://dinealonerecords.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/YoungHeartCover.jpg)
small: http://dinealonerecords.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/YoungHeartCover-400x400.jpg (http://dinealonerecords.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/YoungHeartCover-400x400.jpg)


also, looking over the artists page for dine alone records, there are a few big names in there, most notably ones i've heard of: ...and you will know us by the trail of dead, alexisonfire, at the drive-in, city and colour,  jimmy eat world, kate nash, marilyn manson, the lumineers, twin forks (singer from dashboard confessional's new band), we are scientists......
hopefully this record label will be good for Vanessa and she finally gets that spark in popularity again.... she really deserves it.
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: Emmyspiano on April 21, 2015, 05:48:25 am
Is it the artwork from her grandfather's "nudie" painting? The colors seem similar.
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: HearMyBells on April 21, 2015, 06:07:52 am
It shocks me this won't make the album. What did she replace it with?? #Justice4MoneyMaker
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: KULPDOGG on April 21, 2015, 06:08:44 am
Is it the artwork from her grandfather's "nudie" painting? The colors seem similar.

that's my best guess.

in fact, i know it is.
you can see it real well in this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzKJkzY8MKw
I can pinpoint the exact spot on the painting the album artwork was taken from.
0:23 - 0:24 = good lighting, you can tell from this
1:30 - 1:31 = fullsize
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: KULPDOGG on April 21, 2015, 06:10:22 am
It shocks me this won't make the album? What did she replace it with?? #Justice4MoneyMaker


lol, that's what I was thinking! Moneymaker!!!!! lol!

though, in all honesty, I want a re-make of an older unreleased song!
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: joey on April 21, 2015, 08:33:09 am
It was even available on Google Play! So Android kids, can check there!!! Pleasantly surprised.

Also, I feel like a total glutton knowing that she is not including this on the album. I mean that only means there is place for A LOT MORE MUSIC (aka one more song) on the album and I cannot wait!!!
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: coldyoungheart on April 21, 2015, 09:43:10 am
An "official dream video" was posted on her Youtube channel for the song. It's lovely. Very dreamy. Goes really well with the song.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTCZrv9PaDU
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: coldyoungheart on April 21, 2015, 09:43:57 am
It shocks me this won't make the album? What did she replace it with?? #Justice4MoneyMaker

Omg. Yes.
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: Fred_Saboya on April 21, 2015, 09:47:58 am
OMG IM SO HAPPY. finally. needless to say Vanessa made it again. it's from another world! and the song definitely still has the rabbits on the run vibe, its really a progression from that, like she said herself.
and it was kinda good to hear it wont be on the record, because this means more songs on the way haha.
god im so fucking happy like dude im like hahah
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: Fred_Saboya on April 21, 2015, 09:48:53 am
thank god they've decided to release a track that got cut (still kills me to think of best behavior ... were all is well & morning sting ever recorded?) - i actually think studio is quite faithful to live - and has been ever since she's gone for spare/atmospheric. love it.

THANK GOD!
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: VaderDawsn on April 21, 2015, 02:32:00 pm
FYI - The digital single is available for sale on Amazon and Google Play, in addition to Itunes. (in the US at least)
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: Saulo on April 21, 2015, 02:36:28 pm
Lovely lyrics, lovely melody. Not in love with the vocals though. Sounds better live.
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: Alex0821 on April 21, 2015, 03:18:00 pm
I love how active this place is getting now that we have beautiful new music! It makes me so excited for the album itself and to experience it with all the other Nessaholics from around the world ;D
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: Fred_Saboya on April 21, 2015, 04:37:25 pm
I love how active this place is getting now that we have beautiful new music! It makes me so excited for the album itself and to experience it with all the other Nessaholics from around the world ;D

yes, this is like my favorite time haha when we're all dying for her music and gathering infos about it like freaks. i love it haha
the rabbits on the run year changed my life, really. following the whole process taught me a lot about music as a profession, how it works as job. besides that record obviously changed my experience with art forever. it changed the way i see art and the way it touches me. omg i love vanessa hahah
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: [sobriquet] on April 22, 2015, 01:12:05 am
Lovely lyrics, lovely melody. Not in love with the vocals though. Sounds better live.

I have to agree with the vocals, but then I think it suits with the projects she's aiming for in Liberman. But if there's anything I miss in the vocals for the studio version, it's the haunting falsetto in the bridge.

But then I think the differences between the studio version and live performances are what make me look forward to listening V do the songs live and in studio.
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: Fred_Saboya on April 22, 2015, 06:50:25 am
when is it gonna be available worldwide on itunes? is it ever gonna be?  :-\
i already have the song, but i wanna buy it. i do know why they do this, im like here begging to have the chance to support her.
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: coldyoungheart on April 22, 2015, 12:58:24 pm
when is it gonna be available worldwide on itunes? is it ever gonna be?  :-\
i already have the song, but i wanna buy it. i do know why they do this, im like here begging to have the chance to support her.

I know what you mean. It's so frustrating when music that you want isn't legally available where you live. It's like, JUST TAKE MY MONEY.

Hopefully it will be available for you soon :)
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: LauraH on April 23, 2015, 06:31:54 pm
It shocks me this won't make the album? What did she replace it with?? #Justice4MoneyMaker


lol, that's what I was thinking! Moneymaker!!!!! lol!

though, in all honesty, I want a re-make of an older unreleased song!

ooooh. I would love that too! I don't think we're ever going to hear Moneymaker quite honestly. :P
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: [sobriquet] on April 24, 2015, 01:05:07 am
Liberman's going to be released on October. So far, but then, at least something tangible now.
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: HearMyBells on April 24, 2015, 06:01:50 am
River sounds AMAZING  :o

It's on the Facebook group if you guys are members :-)
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: Alex0821 on April 24, 2015, 06:57:14 am
River sounds AMAZING  :o

It's on the Facebook group if you guys are members :-)

Can you send me a link to the Facebook group? I could have sworn I was a member a long time ago, but I'm not finding it.
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: amelancholymelodie on April 24, 2015, 10:07:08 am
which Facebook group? :-)
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: Manny on April 24, 2015, 10:09:00 am
which Facebook group? :-)

Look on facebook for : Vanessa Carlton - Phantom friends
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: VaderDawsn on April 24, 2015, 03:27:41 pm
Liberman's going to be released on October. So far, but then, at least something tangible now.

So glad to have a release month! AND it is my birthday month ;D
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: Alex0821 on April 24, 2015, 03:36:16 pm
Thanks for approving my group request, Manny! Listening to River right now. It's so pretty, but obviously that comes as no surprise!
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: joey on April 25, 2015, 06:46:36 pm
Um, has Skye gone blond or platinum blond or is that just the lighting or is that not Skye?

Also, anyone ripped that audio, yet?
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: nutnlp on April 25, 2015, 07:46:26 pm
it's pretty crazy that like now 90 percent of this album has been played live and its not coming out for another 5 months atleast...

Blue Pool and River are absolutely beautiful though...it's so different from anything else she's done..I love it.
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: MrMoon on April 25, 2015, 11:06:16 pm
i'm interested to see if blue pool, willows, and take it easy have drums.
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: pswik91 on April 26, 2015, 06:34:28 pm
Yes to your above statement, Skye went a very light grayish white color. The light on stage made it appear purple but he looks so good with the new "asylum" cut as V called it. ;)
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: coldyoungheart on May 01, 2015, 01:31:16 pm

[/quote]But then I think the differences between the studio version and live performances are what make me look forward to listening V do the songs live and in studio.
[/quote]

I absolutely agree. I love listening to live versions of V's stuff.
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: coldyoungheart on May 01, 2015, 01:46:37 pm
In some ways I'm kind of bummed that I've heard 90% of the record already, but I think that having the songs studio-recorded will feel like having new songs.

And I was thinking about Young Heart, and do you guys think that it will actually be replaced with something else on the record? At first I thought it was obvious that it would be, but now I'm not so sure...
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: MrMoon on May 02, 2015, 09:38:16 pm
well, i remember seeing a tweet from her saying that she was recording music in west nashville. this was after liberman had been "finished" last march.

anywho, living in nashville, i have yet to see her. however, she was on the guest list to a show i was working front desk for a few months ago!
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: coldyoungheart on May 03, 2015, 04:18:46 pm
anywho, living in nashville, i have yet to see her. however, she was on the guest list to a show i was working front desk for a few months ago!

That's so cool! I hope that you get to meet her :).
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: lilwizardman_gelo on May 04, 2015, 07:28:04 pm
In some ways I'm kind of bummed that I've heard 90% of the record already, but I think that having the songs studio-recorded will feel like having new songs.

For me, I like going and listening through the album in order to get the full story behind it. So it'll be interesting to see how this one unfolds.
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: KULPDOGG on May 07, 2015, 06:24:58 am
here's some new-ish random info.

I got an email from the website NoiseTrade today.
"To prepare for the October 2015 release of her new album, Liberman, Vanessa Carlton is offering this EP with a new song and and cuts from Rabbits on the Run. The single, “Young Heart” is a snapshot of a vibrant artist at the peak of her craft, and a preview of the cohesive, 10-song dream-of-an-album to come. Enjoy!"

http://noisetrade.com/vanessacarlton/young-heart-ep (http://noisetrade.com/vanessacarlton/young-heart-ep)

"In October 2015 Vanessa will release her next album Liberman. The cohesive, 10-song dream of an album is a snapshot of a vibrant artist at her peak of her craft. In advance, Vanessa wanted to give music fans a taste of what the album will sound like with the new song “Young Heart” as well as offer fans a glimpse at where she’s been recently with four cuts from her prior album Rabbits on the Run. Enjoy!"

the free EP they're offering features:
1 Young Heart
2 The Marching Line
3 Dear California
4 Hear The Bells
5 Fairweather Friend



.....that's it! you can download Young Heart for free without feeling bad now...
also, the album is set for OCTOBER apparently.

 ;D
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: Fred_Saboya on May 07, 2015, 10:18:12 am
god, when i saw that i was like JESUS CHRIST, 4 NEW SONGS
but no hahah.
well, at least something's happening.  :)
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: MrMoon on May 07, 2015, 10:38:09 pm
well at least we know the album will still be 10 songs. i'm sure we'll get a song or two off the album before then too.
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: Alex0821 on May 08, 2015, 11:11:57 am
So do you think we'll get a single in August/September before the album's release?
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: coldyoungheart on May 09, 2015, 08:15:19 am
So do you think we'll get a single in August/September before the album's release?

I hope so!
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: coldyoungheart on May 24, 2015, 08:54:16 pm
Vanessa just posted a clip of "Nothing where something used to be" on Instagram!

https://t.co/tg4gdMdObZ

It's so beautiful omg. I got butterflies in my stomach.
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: Fred_Saboya on May 24, 2015, 09:06:33 pm
Vanessa just posted a clip of "Nothing where something used to be" on Instagram!

https://t.co/tg4gdMdObZ

It's so beautiful omg. I got butterflies in my stomach.

I LOVE IT! torture never felt so good haha.


"i didnt say but i was sad to see you go
you went back to the ghost
i went back to what i know"

she tweeted that a while ago! and she was calling the song "do it"
so "do it" became "nothing where something used to be"!

one more piece to our puzzle!

edit: i found the tweet. https://twitter.com/VanessaCarlton/status/255248598713892864
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: KULPDOGG on May 24, 2015, 10:21:06 pm
Vanessa just posted a clip of "Nothing where something used to be" on Instagram!

https://t.co/tg4gdMdObZ

It's so beautiful omg. I got butterflies in my stomach.

I LOVE IT! torture never felt so good haha.


"i didnt say but i was sad to see you go
you went back to the ghost
i went back to what i know"

she tweeted that a while ago! and she was calling the song "do it"
so "do it" became "nothing where something used to be"!

one more piece to our puzzle!

edit: i found the tweet. https://twitter.com/VanessaCarlton/status/255248598713892864


excellent detective work.

if the lyrics remain the same, we now have this part of the lyrics down:

"I will admit that you're the closest I've come
There's just something about you that I trust
I didn't say but I was sad to see you go
You went back to the ghost
I went back to what I know"
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: sarab on May 26, 2015, 05:23:01 am
i'm loving this snippet and listened to a bunch of times!  beautiful. I am so ready for October.  I also feel it's mystical like the fall and especially October are for me.  even though it's been delayed, I think a fall release is fitting for the vibe of the album.
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: coldyoungheart on May 31, 2015, 06:27:27 pm
(http://i57.tinypic.com/2ldhtet.jpg)

does this mean the album will include live acoustic version of the songs like rabbits on the run??? that would be amazing!

and i totally agree with you, @sarab an autumn release will totally fit the vibe!

ps. sorry that the screenshot is so big; i was too lazy to crop it.
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: MrMoon on June 04, 2015, 12:21:45 pm
(http://i57.tinypic.com/2ldhtet.jpg)

does this mean the album will include live acoustic version of the songs like rabbits on the run??? that would be amazing!

and i totally agree with you, @sarab an autumn release will totally fit the vibe!

ps. sorry that the screenshot is so big; i was too lazy to crop it.

a stripped down version of unlock the lock, willows, take it easy, and 7 swords would be lovely.
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: Rabbits_on_the_run on June 07, 2015, 01:58:04 am
Can you guys believe the album will (/is supposed to) be out in 4 months? Wow it's been so long and suddenly it feels so close. Can't can't wait. The fall is my favorite time of the year and as some of you already pointed out it very well fits the new record. When do you guys think we can expect a first single? Also do you think we'll get a physical version of the album? Seriously I wouldn't stand it if it doesn't get a physical release aka a proper release.
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: Ghisy on June 07, 2015, 02:28:33 am
Also do you think we'll get a physical version of the album? Seriously I wouldn't stand it if it doesn't get a physical release aka a proper release.

That's not even a question! OF COURSE, there's gonna be a physical release!! Given how Vanessa likes physical stuff (hello ROTR vinyls!), there's definitely gonna be a CD (or maybe even another vinyl!) of Liberman.

In my case, no physical release = no buy. It's as simple as that.
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: Rabbits_on_the_run on June 07, 2015, 03:42:36 am
Yes I see things exactly like you do! And I'm glad to know I'm not the only one attached to the "real thing" when it comes to music.

I hope the deluxe version (according to the tweet about the live bonus tracks there will be one) will be physical too! but I'm not gonna hold my breath on that, it's very unlikely though.
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: williansouza908 on June 07, 2015, 03:09:44 pm
Can you guys believe the album will (/is supposed to) be out in 4 months? Wow it's been so long and suddenly it feels so close. Can't can't wait. The fall is my favorite time of the year and as some of you already pointed out it very well fits the new record. When do you guys think we can expect a first single? Also do you think we'll get a physical version of the album? Seriously I wouldn't stand it if it doesn't get a physical release aka a proper release.

Hello ROTR August or September can have a single :)
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: LauraH on June 08, 2015, 08:57:48 pm
I'm trying not to listen to any of the songs because I don't want to spoil the experience. I listened to practically all the released songs from Rabbits on the Run before it came out. Regret it a little. (;
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: Fred_Saboya on June 08, 2015, 09:49:31 pm
ok so this guy for sure has the record, i've contacted him and he told be to be patient haha. i guess he has something to do with "Dine Alone Records".
he also said somewhere that "Nothing Where Something Used To Be" is one of his favorites (i guess it was on Vanessa's instagram video with the song).

but here's what i wanted to share haha:
https://instagram.com/p/3sCUB3ICsH/

well im not sure if he really is involved with the release of Liberman (think he does though), but i dont think he would say "its coming" if he didnt know
haha.

just so we can get a bit crazier ;D
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: KULPDOGG on June 09, 2015, 03:58:37 am
ok so this guy for sure has the record, i've contacted him and he told be to be patient haha. i guess he has something to do with "Dine Alone Records".
he also said somewhere that "Nothing Where Something Used To Be" is one of his favorites (i guess it was on Vanessa's instagram video with the song).

but here's what i wanted to share haha:
https://instagram.com/p/3sCUB3ICsH/

well im not sure if he really is involved with the release of Liberman (think he does though), but i dont think he would say "its coming" if he didnt know
haha.

just so we can get a bit crazier ;D

he's not affiliated with the record company. he actually used to be one of vanessa's pr people a long time ago, so they're friends now.. he knows her personally, but i honestly don't think anything will come from it, just leave him alone, mike's a cool guy, but he won't share anything early if he even has it at all. (which I don't think he does) :-p
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: sarab on June 09, 2015, 07:33:10 am
I'm trying not to listen to any of the songs because I don't want to spoil the experience. I listened to practically all the released songs from Rabbits on the Run before it came out. Regret it a little. (;

I feel the same way.. I have only listened to the new songs in concert, which I recorded but I have only listened to a handful of times afterwards.  Since I had ROTR songs so early, it was almost like I was "done" listening to the record before it was even out! (when I say "done" what I mean is that I usually get a new record and listen to only that fore months.. then I will listen to it less as time goes on.. then my ipod goes to shuffle until I get a new album I obsess about!) 
acoustic version of the songs would be great, as always, the stripped down and live versions are my favorite, even though the new stuff has neat sound
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: Fred_Saboya on June 09, 2015, 08:48:42 am
ok so this guy for sure has the record, i've contacted him and he told be to be patient haha. i guess he has something to do with "Dine Alone Records".
he also said somewhere that "Nothing Where Something Used To Be" is one of his favorites (i guess it was on Vanessa's instagram video with the song).

but here's what i wanted to share haha:
https://instagram.com/p/3sCUB3ICsH/

well im not sure if he really is involved with the release of Liberman (think he does though), but i dont think he would say "its coming" if he didnt know
haha.

just so we can get a bit crazier ;D

he's not affiliated with the record company. he actually used to be one of vanessa's pr people a long time ago, so they're friends now.. he knows her personally, but i honestly don't think anything will come from it, just leave him alone, mike's a cool guy, but he won't share anything early if he even has it at all. (which I don't think he does) :-p

im not trying to make him share anything. my point is that he said something's coming.

Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: coldyoungheart on June 09, 2015, 09:49:19 am
ok so this guy for sure has the record, i've contacted him and he told be to be patient haha. i guess he has something to do with "Dine Alone Records".
he also said somewhere that "Nothing Where Something Used To Be" is one of his favorites (i guess it was on Vanessa's instagram video with the song).

but here's what i wanted to share haha:
https://instagram.com/p/3sCUB3ICsH/

well im not sure if he really is involved with the release of Liberman (think he does though), but i dont think he would say "its coming" if he didnt know
haha.

just so we can get a bit crazier ;D

That's a cool picture!

Anyways, I wonder if it means that Take it Easy will be the single???
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: coldyoungheart on June 09, 2015, 09:52:25 am
I'm trying not to listen to any of the songs because I don't want to spoil the experience. I listened to practically all the released songs from Rabbits on the Run before it came out. Regret it a little. (;

I feel the same way.. I have only listened to the new songs in concert, which I recorded but I have only listened to a handful of times afterwards.  Since I had ROTR songs so early, it was almost like I was "done" listening to the record before it was even out! (when I say "done" what I mean is that I usually get a new record and listen to only that fore months.. then I will listen to it less as time goes on.. then my ipod goes to shuffle until I get a new album I obsess about!)  
acoustic version of the songs would be great, as always, the stripped down and live versions are my favorite, even though the new stuff has neat sound

You guys are definitely disciplined! I tried, especially when we got the clips of River and Blue Pool, but I couldn't resist listening.

I'm hoping that the live recordings will make the songs feel like 'new'. I'm the same way as you Sara! I usually listen to the same things until I get almost 'tired' of them.
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: sarab on June 09, 2015, 02:53:00 pm
I'm trying not to listen to any of the songs because I don't want to spoil the experience. I listened to practically all the released songs from Rabbits on the Run before it came out. Regret it a little. (;

I feel the same way.. I have only listened to the new songs in concert, which I recorded but I have only listened to a handful of times afterwards.  Since I had ROTR songs so early, it was almost like I was "done" listening to the record before it was even out! (when I say "done" what I mean is that I usually get a new record and listen to only that fore months.. then I will listen to it less as time goes on.. then my ipod goes to shuffle until I get a new album I obsess about!)  
acoustic version of the songs would be great, as always, the stripped down and live versions are my favorite, even though the new stuff has neat sound

You guys are definitely disciplined! I tried, especially when we got the clips of River and Blue Pool, but I couldn't resist listening.

I'm hoping that the live recordings will make the songs feel like 'new'. I'm the same way as you Sara! I usually listen to the same things until I get almost 'tired' of them.

it helps that Florence and the Machine just came out with a new one!  Plus My Morning Jacket has a new album out too I haven't gotten it yet. 
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: Ghisy on June 10, 2015, 12:31:41 pm
Since we're a little off topic, I must admit I haven't listened to Vanessa in a while. I've got a lot of new music to listen to and I'm kinda waiting for stuff to start again with Liberman so I can get back into it!

I think it will make me appreciate it even more! (even though I've heard all the new songs live or through YouTube) And I'll definitely be around for the tour in the Fall! It gets me excited just to write about it haha!  ;D
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: nutnlp on June 11, 2015, 09:07:18 pm
That photo he posted almost looks like a photo from her 2007 show at the roxy when stevie joined her on stage lmfao
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: Fred_Saboya on June 11, 2015, 10:24:15 pm
https://instagram.com/p/3xXj6JICpZ/?taken-by=mikekillmon
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: pswik91 on June 12, 2015, 12:26:08 pm
So she posted something about something new and something blue happening this Monday with her new record label. I'm assuming Blue Pool is being released as a single :)))
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: Fred_Saboya on June 12, 2015, 12:33:33 pm
@VanessaCarlton: Monday - something new, something blue...from @vanessacarlton and @dinealonemusic https://t.co/GMto2b3O8i

SOUNDS SOOO GOOD! oh fuck, my heart's so happy right now hahah
so blue pool is being released on monday!
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: coldyoungheart on June 12, 2015, 01:24:35 pm
this is very exciting!!!!
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: MrMoon on June 12, 2015, 09:03:11 pm
liking it so far. not what i expected, haha. i was thinking sparse synths and electronic drums (mostly from the initial note of dance pop and electronic music, and then skye's live arrangements), but it sounds cool like this too.
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: HearMyBells on June 13, 2015, 06:54:30 am
I wish it was River but I am so jazzed we're getting something!

...Also I'm glad we are getting acoustic versions because so far the live versions outdo the studios for me. Not a huge fan of the hyperecho effect on her voice :-\
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: williansouza908 on June 13, 2015, 02:22:52 pm
Blue pool in the iTunes after midnight Sunday to Monday It would be great
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: Rabbits_on_the_run on June 13, 2015, 11:36:22 pm
This sounds so good. I litterally had chills running through my whole body when I heard the snippet first. I love this and the fact that Vanessa's music still resonates with me. She's seriously the best. I love everyhing she does. 'She can do no wrong' as Irv Gotti said :P
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: coldyoungheart on June 14, 2015, 09:14:25 am
Just one more day to go! I'm really excited. I kind of doubt that it's going to be in iTunes after midnight though. They might be premiering the song during the day with Esquire, like with Young Heart and I'll Wait for You.

Personally I loooove that "hyperecho" effect on Vanessa's voice. It's so magical and haunting and ethereal.
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: Harmonium on June 15, 2015, 06:50:44 am
Blue Pool is up!

http://www.nylon.com/articles/vanessa-carlton-blue-pool

And a Blue Pool EP July 24!
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: TRINIST on June 15, 2015, 07:40:09 am
Quote
Thank you NYLON for premiering the new Vanessa Carlton song "Blue Pool" today. This song will be included on the "Blue Pool EP" which will be released in North America digitally on July 24th. The songs from this EP will be a part of a double album deluxe version of Vanessa's forthcoming record "Liberman" which will be released by Dine Alone Records in late October.

!!!!! ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: saphire on June 15, 2015, 07:47:34 am
God I love this song o.o
It`s haunting.
I`m so happy she`s back ;) !!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: Fred_Saboya on June 15, 2015, 07:50:11 am
http://dinealonerecords.com/news/vanessa-carlton-announces-blue-pool-ep-shares-new-song/

a lot of new information! everything's being worth the wait!
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: Pushglow on June 15, 2015, 07:58:43 am
(http://i.imgur.com/Z11hyoCm.jpg) (http://imgur.com/Z11hyoC)

Thank you Harmonium for the link! Blue Pool is clearly something :o

And here is the audio rip. Remember, the music from Soundcloud is heavily compressed so you better buy it when it's possible :D
https://mega.co.nz/#!TcRzjSYD!buQG3KjiZhUyjOzl2s9G8u1V5sJrEsXskhdxmwfBgzg (https://mega.co.nz/#!TcRzjSYD!buQG3KjiZhUyjOzl2s9G8u1V5sJrEsXskhdxmwfBgzg)

As usual, don't spread it too much.
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: coldyoungheart on June 15, 2015, 08:26:03 am
Wowowow. Blue Pool IS AMAZING. I don't even have the words! I must say that Blue Pool wasn't my first pick for a single, but the studio version totally won me over. It definitely blew my expectations out of the water!

And I'm so glad that we're getting an EP to tide us over until the album!

Thanks for the download, Pushglow. I keep checking iTunes, but it's not up yet. I'll listen to it a few more times on Soundlcoud to give it more listens though.
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: Nessaholic4Ever on June 15, 2015, 09:15:24 am
Blue Pool is so, so, so good. Very excited for the EP.
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: pswik91 on June 15, 2015, 09:36:13 am
So, apparently we're getting a double deluxe edition of Liberman in October according to @VanessaCarltonIndo.  If this is true I can't wait to hear new tracks. She apparently has a song called a operator on the Blue Pool EP
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: coyote_revolver on June 15, 2015, 09:38:38 am
*squee*

I wonder if the Blue Pool EP is going to be released in physical format aswell.
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: MrMoon on June 15, 2015, 04:22:46 pm
well, hopefully moneymaker and patience will be on the deluxe.
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: Arwen on June 15, 2015, 05:39:11 pm
I think I may have a problem; I've probably listened to this song about 50 times so far today. It's just perfect! The piano at the beginning, the "kaleidoscope" ending, her voice, the lyrics. At first I thought it was too short but I actually like songs better that leave you wanting more instead of dragging on too long. Lieberman is going to rock.

Anyone else already picturing the music video in their head? I hope she's actually making one!
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: Alex0821 on June 15, 2015, 06:38:06 pm
The piano intro is everything. It's so delicate and haunting and tantalizing. I can't wait to learn to play it.

The song itself - particularly the vocal melody - sounds like a sea shanty to me, like if KT Tunstall's "Shanty of the Whale" had an instrumental.

And the entire last minute sounds like an Enya interlude. Such a rich sound, with the wandering piano line and the soft humming and everything.

Altogether a really beautiful, peaceful, fascinating song.
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: Rabbits_on_the_run on June 16, 2015, 01:09:07 am
Beautiful song. Magical, haunting, dreamy and beautiful are the words that come to mind to describe it. I feel the same kind of emotions I do when I listen to Hear the bells. But I might like this one even better! This album is gonna be amazing. Probably my favorite which seems kind of impossible given how much I love Rabbits and Harmonium (and also Heroes!).
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: Fred_Saboya on June 16, 2015, 08:50:52 am
I think I may have a problem; I've probably listened to this song about 50 times so far today. It's just perfect! The piano at the beginning, the "kaleidoscope" ending, her voice, the lyrics. At first I thought it was too short but I actually like songs better that leave you wanting more instead of dragging on too long. Lieberman is going to rock.

Anyone else already picturing the music video in their head? I hope she's actually making one!

you have no problem, youre just a Nessaholic ;D. 67 and counting here haha
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: _all_is_well_ on June 16, 2015, 12:14:24 pm
Does this mean there will be songs we are unaware of on the album? Or are the songs on this EP part of the 10 song album?
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: HearMyBells on June 16, 2015, 06:12:46 pm
Do you think Operator is the song about "the lady who lives in a lighthouse" that she wrote right after ROTR came out? Would love to hear it :-).
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: coldyoungheart on June 16, 2015, 06:44:07 pm
Oh my god, I hadn't even thought about the video! I guess we'll be getting one though, since it's a single. Especially since they just posted the Blue Pool audio on her Youtube channel and they added 'Audio only' on the title. I'm assuming it's because we'll get a video and they don't want people to confuse both vids.

The ROTR era videos were fantastic, so I can't wait to see what Vanessa decides to do with her Liberman videos!
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: KULPDOGG on June 17, 2015, 05:24:06 am
Do you think Operator is the song about "the lady who lives in a lighthouse" that she wrote right after ROTR came out? Would love to hear it :-).

I don't remember that.... link?
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: HearMyBells on June 17, 2015, 05:51:24 am
Do you think Operator is the song about "the lady who lives in a lighthouse" that she wrote right after ROTR came out? Would love to hear it :-).

I don't remember that.... link?

I can't find a link but it was a radio interview with a man... not the NPR interview... but it was very similar
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: Fred_Saboya on June 18, 2015, 03:03:37 pm
Do you think Operator is the song about "the lady who lives in a lighthouse" that she wrote right after ROTR came out? Would love to hear it :-).

I don't remember that.... link?

I can't find a link but it was a radio interview with a man... not the NPR interview... but it was very similar

here it is http://forum.nessaholics.com/index.php?topic=13191.0
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: KULPDOGG on June 18, 2015, 07:33:56 pm
Do you think Operator is the song about "the lady who lives in a lighthouse" that she wrote right after ROTR came out? Would love to hear it :-).

I don't remember that.... link?

I can't find a link but it was a radio interview with a man... not the NPR interview... but it was very similar

here it is http://forum.nessaholics.com/index.php?topic=13191.0


thanks!
until we find out what this song is, I added it to the song list. :)
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: Manny on June 18, 2015, 08:33:08 pm
I'm assuming it's because we'll get a video and they don't want people to confuse both vids.
She said it won't be the lead single of Liberman
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: Arwen on June 19, 2015, 10:43:47 am
I'm assuming it's because we'll get a video and they don't want people to confuse both vids.
She said it won't be the lead single of Liberman

I just saw your tweet! D: I wonder what will be the lead single then.
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: joey on June 24, 2015, 08:40:48 am
I may have spent a good half an hour looking for the Blue EP not realizing she said JULY 24th.  :(
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: lilwizardman_gelo on June 29, 2015, 09:30:26 pm
Liberman is coming out soon!
So far the track list reads as followed:

1. Take it Easy
2. Willows
3. House of Seven Swords
4. Blue Pool
5. Operator?
6. Nothing Where Something Used to Be
7. Matter Of Time
8. Unlock the Lock
9. River
10. Ascension


[UPDATE: Since Young Heart has been taken off the record. I'm wondering if the track order has changed... I can only assume Operator has taken Young Hearts place. Hopefully we will know soon!]
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: sarab on June 30, 2015, 02:26:37 pm
oh, I thought operator was just for the EP coming out in July?  that was my impression, but yes, something does have to take the place of Young Heart
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: Fred_Saboya on June 30, 2015, 07:06:51 pm
maybe Operator is that one song she shared a snippet of on her instagram.
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: Arwen on July 01, 2015, 10:21:08 am
A new Vanessa interview about Liberman and stuff!

http://music.allaccess.com/qa-with-vanessa-carlton/

Also, I love this!

Quote
The chorus is very much about a woman’s mind: how quickly the wall can go up. It’s important to find that secret door.

Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: MrMoon on July 01, 2015, 10:53:06 pm
hoping the deluxe version will have b-sides too. really like to hear patience and moneymaker
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: williansouza908 on July 08, 2015, 07:41:15 pm
Will be that this is the cover of Liberman https://instagram.com/p/4SPRP5oCvJ/?taken-by=mikekillmon
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: fizzybubblespop on July 08, 2015, 08:19:29 pm
hoping the deluxe version will have b-sides too. really like to hear patience and moneymaker

feeling this. I reaaalllly need to hear Moneymaker. She's been teasing us for how many years now?
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: coyote_revolver on July 09, 2015, 08:08:57 am
Have you guys listened to one of the new songs? :D  it's from the Living Room Sessions

http://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/2015/07/song-premiere-vanessa-carlton---nothing-where-some.html
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: Arwen on July 09, 2015, 10:08:04 am
Omg! I love it! Thank you for posting!
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: Alex0821 on July 09, 2015, 01:21:44 pm
Wow, it's really pretty. It doesn't even sound live, because her voice is so flawless. Really looking forward to this EP!
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: _all_is_well_ on July 10, 2015, 10:19:34 am
What songs are going to be on the Blue Pool EP?

In the YouTube video description of "Nothing Where Something Used To Be" on her official YouTube it reads:

" 'Nothing Where Something Used To Be' (Live Living Room Session) appears on the Blue Pool EP that will be released in North America on July 24th. The full length album (that will contain all the songs on the Blue Pool EP), Liberman, will be released in late October.

So this means whatever songs are on the EP will also be one the album. So we will have 2 album songs: "Blue Pool" and ____(not sure what the other song is).
AND we will have 2 live songs of which we will get studio recordings of on Liberman. Those will be "Noting Where Something Used To Be" and ____ (Not sure what the other song is).

Someone please tell me what the other songs are!
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: Pushglow on July 10, 2015, 10:40:22 am
What songs are going to be on the Blue Pool EP?

Take It Easy (Studio) and Operator (Live) :)
http://dinealonerecords.com/news/vanessa-carlton-premieres-new-track-from-blue-pool-ep/
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: _all_is_well_ on July 10, 2015, 01:21:16 pm
Thank you!! I am glad it will be those two.
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: coldyoungheart on July 10, 2015, 07:43:02 pm
This album is going to be SO GOOD. Every song that I've heard so far has blown me away.

I love that Vanessa is dropping songs like that without warning us because it feels like a present!

And I totally agree @Alex0821, her voice sounds AMAZING on Nothing Where Something Used to be.
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: coldyoungheart on July 10, 2015, 07:44:35 pm
Will be that this is the cover of Liberman https://instagram.com/p/4SPRP5oCvJ/?taken-by=mikekillmon

Definitely possible. She used that picture once when she was posting Liberman song titles on her instagram.
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: williansouza908 on July 11, 2015, 07:34:01 pm
Will be that this is the cover of Liberman https://instagram.com/p/4SPRP5oCvJ/?taken-by=mikekillmon

Definitely possible. She used that picture once when she was posting Liberman song titles on her instagram.

Yes 10 songs. 35 minutes. Favorite album length achieved. https://instagram.com/p/mqkNExMdlT/?taken-by=vanessacarltonactual
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: AG. on July 13, 2015, 05:11:30 am
New interview, don't think it's been posted:

http://www.glidemagazine.com/139430/vanessa-carlton-reflects-first-instincts-life-music-interview/
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: sarab on July 13, 2015, 08:48:53 am
New interview, don't think it's been posted:

http://www.glidemagazine.com/139430/vanessa-carlton-reflects-first-instincts-life-music-interview/
awesome! tour dates! yay. thanks for posting
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: coldyoungheart on July 13, 2015, 09:57:03 am
This is an awesome interview!

She said the deluxe album will include a "live living room sessions" version of every song, which I am ecstatic about!

She also said that she's finished the artwork. I bet that it's going to be gorgeous.

I am so freaking excited about this record!
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: Alex0821 on July 13, 2015, 02:53:10 pm
Wow, so "Operator" is a ROTR outtake (idk if we knew that already, at least I didn't haha). That's really cool! Imagine getting a chance to go through her library of old, unreleased songs  :o
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: Alex0821 on July 13, 2015, 02:56:32 pm
"Hopefully I will see people on the road in the fall and it’s so nice to be back. So much has changed in the ways that they should so I’m looking forward to reconnecting with people out there that like my music or that want to hang out on the road and go to shows."

Is she saying we'll get a chance to hang out with her? Sign me up!  :P
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: nutnlp on July 13, 2015, 05:55:44 pm
Although I am super excited about the living room live cuts, I don't imagine them being very much different from the studio versions.  She has such a simple stripped approach to recording ever since Rabbits.  I am hoping for a few songs thrown in there that we don't know about yet just for the sake that we've pretty much heard 9/10 songs now and if Ascension is anything like In The End it's like just an outerlude pretty much. Regardless I can't wait to see her back on tour!
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: coldyoungheart on July 16, 2015, 03:31:38 pm
It's probably going to be in the same style as the live acoustic versions of songs she did for Rabbits. I love those. They feel like different songs to me. I wonder if we'll actually get a 'live living room session' version of every song on the album? It kind of sounds like that in the interview, but usually artists just do a few acoustic versions of songs on their album.
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: sarab on July 19, 2015, 04:52:15 am
It's probably going to be in the same style as the live acoustic versions of songs she did for Rabbits. I love those. They feel like different songs to me. I wonder if we'll actually get a 'live living room session' version of every song on the album? It kind of sounds like that in the interview, but usually artists just do a few acoustic versions of songs on their album.


Jewel did "sweet and wild" then "sweet and mild" the later being all acoustic versions of the songs on the former.  it was a 2 disc album.. I exclusively l listened to the "mild"
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: pswik91 on July 20, 2015, 03:07:22 pm
something exciting is coming tomorrow according to v's social media!!!!
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: MrMoon on July 20, 2015, 05:46:58 pm
something exciting is coming tomorrow according to v's social media!!!!

and the mystery gets deeper
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: Harmonium on July 21, 2015, 06:46:55 am
The Blue Pool EP is here! Operator is Moneymaker! Sounds so awesome! Take it easy is breathtaking!
http://www.spin.com/2015/07/vanessa-carlton-blue-pool-ep-stream/
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: cassiemoy on July 21, 2015, 08:21:51 am
HOLY MOLY "take it easy" has gone full electronic atmospheric. kind of tense. gorgeous. glad that the living room sessions will preserve a more acoustic version :)
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: Ghisy on July 21, 2015, 08:42:24 am
glad that the living room sessions will preserve a more acoustic version :)

THIS! These new produced studio versions will take time to get used to. And I always like V's acoustic stuff better.
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: MrMoon on July 21, 2015, 08:49:43 am
I know I prefer the live versions at the moment since I heard them first, but I know I'll come to love both. Operator and take it easy are gorgeous.
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: nutnlp on July 21, 2015, 09:23:21 am
Wow.  Was not expecting that with Take It Easy.  I really like when V experiments.  I like the song a lot.  Also glad we can finally put the Moneymaker/Operator thirst to rest lol.  It's a beautiful song.  Hopefully the EP will be available on Amazon MP3 on Friday since I dont mess with iTunes ha-ha
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: Ghisy on July 21, 2015, 09:28:52 am
Hopefully the EP will be available on Amazon MP3 on Friday since I dont mess with iTunes ha-ha

Yeah, itunes suckssssssss!!! It will probably be up on Google Play & Amazon Music as well, although it seems to be US-only for now...  :-\
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: darren1711 on July 21, 2015, 09:46:10 am
Hopefully it will be available to buy internationally, if not Friday then soon.
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: joey on July 21, 2015, 11:03:03 am
Operator = Moneymaker!!!

But seriously am loving this song. It's... It's reminiscent of early Vanessa "Demo" tape stuff!
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: lavender skies on July 21, 2015, 11:11:53 am
Holy shit I'm in love with Take it Easy and Operator. Especially Operator, wow somehow just what I was picturing.
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: coyote_revolver on July 21, 2015, 11:34:15 am
But seriously am loving this song. It's... It's reminiscent of early Vanessa "Demo" tape stuff!

I though that too!  The song is so cool, I wonder how the studio version is going to sound like.
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: Fred_Saboya on July 21, 2015, 12:18:08 pm
But seriously am loving this song. It's... It's reminiscent of early Vanessa "Demo" tape stuff!

I though that too!  The song is so cool, I wonder how the studio version is going to sound like.

Theres a preview of that on her instagram
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: Fred_Saboya on July 21, 2015, 12:24:13 pm
I love the songs! Cant believe its actually happening! Nothing where something used to be is definitely my favorite so far! Operator is great too. Sounds a lot likr take it easy in the beggining. Same chords i guess.
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: Pushglow on July 21, 2015, 12:43:01 pm
To be honest, I was a little bit scared that her new music would be softer because of her pregnancy and baby. Well... I was wrong :o

Sharing the love below. It contains the 4 tracks directly downloaded from Soundcloud (as usual, it's only 128 kbps) and they are nicely tagged.
https://mega.co.nz/#!uAwVUY7C!yr3HFbato6PsQIj1ElhogqDe2Jho2IouEZ56Z_5BVf4 (https://mega.co.nz/#!uAwVUY7C!yr3HFbato6PsQIj1ElhogqDe2Jho2IouEZ56Z_5BVf4)

3 months to go!
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: itsthefiveofus on July 21, 2015, 01:55:47 pm
Haven't posted in ages! Glad to see there are still active nessaholics on the board! Take it Easy is AMAZING. Haven't listened to Operator yet but can't wait! Loving this new direction Vanessa is taking her music in!

Update: Operator is beyond awesome. This album is going to be truly amazing
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: initially_yours on July 21, 2015, 04:03:47 pm
"Operator" has some great pop melodies (I can't stop listening to it -- so catchy!). Am I the only who thinks this would explode as a single?
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: Arwen on July 21, 2015, 08:34:10 pm
I love Operator! So happy we finally have Moneymaker! It was well worth the wait and I agree that it sounds like early demo stuff! The lyrics "leave your house for a home" are my favorite but the whole song is brilliant lyrically.

The Take It Easy studio version was shocking after being so used to the live version! The light synth is breathtaking though and I love the gentle fade in and the little "hey" she does. Her voice is beautiful on this and I love the haunting backing vocals. Also the beat reminds me of Brandon Flowers' song "Jilted Lover and Broken Hearts." (still waiting for them to do a collab one day).

Anyway, how does she keep managing to get even better? I didn't think anything could top ROTR but I think Liberman will!
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: coldyoungheart on July 22, 2015, 11:26:48 am
I'm so glad that "moneymaker" won't just be a big black question mark for the rest of our lives lol.

The EP is FANTASTIC. I do miss the live intro to Take it Easy, but both the live version and the studio version are gorgeous. Operator is AMAZING. I can't stop listening to it either!

I can't wait for this album sknlfkdmlkfd.
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: pswik91 on July 22, 2015, 03:13:51 pm
I am absolutely in love with Take it Easy even more than when she plays it live.  The overall character of the songs is just amplified and it makes me feel all tingly inside =))))
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: saphire on July 23, 2015, 02:35:51 pm
It's a little sad that we can't download it in europe -.- !
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: williansouza908 on July 23, 2015, 08:45:22 pm
Available now on itunes ep blue pool https://itunes.apple.com/us/album/blue-pool-ep/id1019344541
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: nutnlp on July 23, 2015, 09:16:24 pm
Yay! It's now on Amazon MP3 too!!

http://www.amazon.com/Blue-Pool-Vanessa-Carlton/dp/B011N1AK5E/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1437715001&sr=8-2&keywords=vanessa+carlton+blue+pool
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: coldyoungheart on July 24, 2015, 05:40:45 am
I was glad to see that it was already up on iTunes when I woke up. I'll definitely be listening to the EP while walking to work this morning :).
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: joey on July 24, 2015, 08:28:44 am
Yup. Got it on Google Play and the audio is fucking amazing. Operator is killing me. I know I said it before but its just so early Vanessa I wanna scream and no one around me will understand what this song is doing to me but you guys!!!

Oh and the trumpets on Take it Easy. This production is going to be amazing.
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: Ghisy on July 24, 2015, 08:50:24 am
Yup, not available anywhere in Europe...

I'll have to live with the low quality versions from SoundClound for a while.  :-\
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: lavender skies on July 24, 2015, 10:44:15 am
Yessssss Operator is totally early V and I'm absolutely loving it. I love Blue Pool but Operator is bringing me chills almost every time.
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: MrMoon on July 24, 2015, 12:11:08 pm
They uploaded the wrong version of operator on YouTube. It's amazing!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=NO81m_-pKlA
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Post by: nutnlp on July 24, 2015, 12:33:27 pm
lmfao major goof up on that operator upload haha i love the studio version! so beautiful
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Post by: cassiemoy on July 24, 2015, 02:51:20 pm
seriously cool. also by far the most energetic track she's released in years.
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Post by: Alex0821 on July 24, 2015, 08:28:51 pm
I'm listening to the studio version of "Operator" for the first time, and I can actually imagine hearing this on the radio. It sounds like some of the stuff that's big today. Maybe the chorus could be a bit catchier. But making this a single would be a good idea, I think.
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Post by: Arwen on July 24, 2015, 09:47:28 pm
I really think Operator could have a lot success as a single also! I'm in love with the studio version.
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Post by: saphire on July 24, 2015, 11:37:48 pm
Operator rocks :D !!!!
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Post by: joey on July 25, 2015, 12:35:28 pm
They pulled down the studio version of operator. :(

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Post by: coldyoungheart on July 25, 2015, 01:06:55 pm
Someone uploaded it here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86tWCfoqKn0

But honestly I think they should take it down.... Vanessa's probably not happy about it.

I also downloaded the file before they pulled it, and I would be willing to share it with other nessaholics. If you message me I can e-mail the file to you.
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Post by: williansouza908 on July 25, 2015, 06:59:07 pm
Someone uploaded it here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86tWCfoqKn0

But honestly I think they should take it down.... Vanessa's probably not happy about it.

I also downloaded the file before they pulled it, and I would be willing to share it with other nessaholics. If you message me I can e-mail the file to you.

My favorite
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Post by: williansouza908 on July 25, 2015, 07:16:54 pm
Download operator studio version liberman here soundcloud https://soundcloud.com/eduardowilliandesouza/vanessa-carlton-operator-studio-version-official-album-liberman
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Post by: MrMoon on July 25, 2015, 10:48:53 pm
Download operator studio version liberman here soundcloud https://soundcloud.com/eduardowilliandesouza/vanessa-carlton-operator-studio-version-official-album-liberman

hey, you should probably delete that.
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Post by: Harmonium on July 26, 2015, 03:25:21 am
Eduardo, why on earth do you keep on publishing the studio-version on your channels? Vanessa clearly don't want it to be out yet. I't was uploaded by mistake. That is so disrespectful...


Download operator studio version liberman here soundcloud https://soundcloud.com/eduardowilliandesouza/vanessa-carlton-operator-studio-version-official-album-liberman
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Post by: sarab on July 26, 2015, 04:57:44 am
Yup. Got it on Google Play and the audio is fucking amazing. Operator is killing me. I know I said it before but its just so early Vanessa I wanna scream and no one around me will understand what this song is doing to me but you guys!!!

Oh and the trumpets on Take it Easy. This production is going to be amazing.

trumpets? I don't hear it.. am I missing something ? all sounds like synthy stuff to me and distorted piano
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Post by: [sobriquet] on July 26, 2015, 09:28:28 am
Yup. Got it on Google Play and the audio is fucking amazing. Operator is killing me. I know I said it before but its just so early Vanessa I wanna scream and no one around me will understand what this song is doing to me but you guys!!!

Oh and the trumpets on Take it Easy. This production is going to be amazing.

trumpets? I don't hear it.. am I missing something ? all sounds like synthy stuff to me and distorted piano

There are trumpets! haha
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Post by: sarab on July 27, 2015, 04:18:01 pm
Yup. Got it on Google Play and the audio is fucking amazing. Operator is killing me. I know I said it before but its just so early Vanessa I wanna scream and no one around me will understand what this song is doing to me but you guys!!!

Oh and the trumpets on Take it Easy. This production is going to be amazing.

trumpets? I don't hear it.. am I missing something ? all sounds like synthy stuff to me and distorted piano
interesting, it sounds like guitar with lots of reverb to me..
There are trumpets! haha
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Post by: [sobriquet] on August 03, 2015, 12:21:00 pm
http://thedailysouth.southernliving.com/2015/08/03/music-premiere-monday-blue-pool-by-vanessa-carlton/

BLUE POOL VIDEO!
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Post by: Arwen on August 03, 2015, 12:36:05 pm
Yay! Victor is so freaking cute. I love that little man.
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Post by: nutnlp on August 03, 2015, 02:15:12 pm
I loved it!
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Post by: lavender skies on August 03, 2015, 03:05:58 pm
Pretty, and Victor is identical to my dog so that was enjoyable.
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Post by: sarab on August 05, 2015, 09:48:01 am
Yup. Got it on Google Play and the audio is fucking amazing. Operator is killing me. I know I said it before but its just so early Vanessa I wanna scream and no one around me will understand what this song is doing to me but you guys!!!

Oh and the trumpets on Take it Easy. This production is going to be amazing.

trumpets? I don't hear it.. am I missing something ? all sounds like synthy stuff to me and distorted piano

There are trumpets! haha

straight from her via twitter- no trumpets

sara braren ‏@dmb4ever2  · 4h4 hours ago 
@VanessaCarlton loving take it easy; someone claims there are trumpets in it, I disagree can u set us straight?!


 Vanessa Carlton ‏@VanessaCarlton  · 4h4 hours ago 
@dmb4ever2 nope

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Post by: coldyoungheart on August 05, 2015, 12:40:19 pm
i saw that! it's awesome that she replied :)

but no way. i was SURE those were trumpets!
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Post by: coldyoungheart on August 05, 2015, 12:45:39 pm
Lovely video! Reminiscent of Hear the Bells.
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Post by: Harmonium on August 10, 2015, 02:35:11 pm
Vanessa preforming "Nothing where something used to be" on people.com!
http://www.people.com/people/videos/0,,20943523,00.html
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Post by: Arwen on August 10, 2015, 07:53:32 pm
Vanessa preforming "Nothing where something used to be" on people.com!
http://www.people.com/people/videos/0,,20943523,00.html

That's so cool! Thanks for sharing! It's startling how it cuts off towards the end, haha.
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Post by: initially_yours on August 11, 2015, 08:51:40 pm
Vanessa preforming "Nothing where something used to be" on people.com!
http://www.people.com/people/videos/0,,20943523,00.html

Thanks for this. And on the same site, an interview with Vanessa about Liberman: http://www.people.com/people/videos/0,,20943514,00.html (http://www.people.com/people/videos/0,,20943514,00.html)
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Post by: coldyoungheart on August 12, 2015, 10:15:35 am
Awesome! Thanks for sharing those videos, guys. Vanessa's voice sounds amazing in the Nothing Where Something Used To Be video. And she looks amazing, too. Love the winged liner.
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Post by: fantastical on August 16, 2015, 12:13:49 pm
For those who've heard the album version of Operator, has anyone else noticed the extreme similarities between Take It Easy? It must be the production. Seriously you should listen to the Operator album version and then Take It Easy right after. The intro is basicly an interlude. The whole vibe actually.
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Post by: Fred_Saboya on August 16, 2015, 04:42:03 pm
For those who've heard the album version of Operator, has anyone else noticed the extreme similarities between Take It Easy? It must be the production. Seriously you should listen to the Operator album version and then Take It Easy right after. The intro is basicly an interlude. The whole vibe actually.

yes, the first time i heard operator i was like "wait, that sounds familiar". but ive realized its because both songs are based on the same chords (Bm D G Em).
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Post by: fantastical on August 16, 2015, 06:23:36 pm
I must admit, I'm very disappointed with the studio version of Take It Easy. I've always loved the live performances. That tweaky sound sample she uses. You could call it 'atmospheric electro'. It's still there in the album version but very subdued, buried underneath it all. I wonder if John had something to do with this... Don't get me wrong, I like the guy but V mentioned that he did added some guitar on it and it's pretty prominent, you can't deny that.

I just really wish it sounded more like the live performances. Just piano, the tweaky sample loop and Skye's lovely contribution of course.
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Post by: MrMoon on August 16, 2015, 08:36:48 pm
I must admit, I'm very disappointed with the studio version of Take It Easy. I've always loved the live performances. That tweaky sound sample she uses. You could call it 'atmospheric electro'. It's still there in the album version but very subdued, buried underneath it all. I wonder if John had something to do with this... Don't get me wrong, I like the guy but V mentioned that he did added some guitar on it and it's pretty prominent, you can't deny that.

I just really wish it sounded more like the live performances. Just piano, the tweaky sample loop and Skye's lovely contribution of course.

to be honest i barely notice the guitar in it
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Post by: private-radio on August 17, 2015, 03:58:12 am
I must admit, I'm very disappointed with the studio version of Take It Easy. I've always loved the live performances. That tweaky sound sample she uses. You could call it 'atmospheric electro'. It's still there in the album version but very subdued, buried underneath it all. I wonder if John had something to do with this... Don't get me wrong, I like the guy but V mentioned that he did added some guitar on it and it's pretty prominent, you can't deny that.

I just really wish it sounded more like the live performances. Just piano, the tweaky sample loop and Skye's lovely contribution of course.

I completely agree !

Personally I had not noticed TIE and O were so similar. I have never liked Take It Easy anyway. But Operator makes me feel so good.

I am looking forward to listening to the album.

Nothing Where Something used to be is also a very good song. My favorite one of the EP so far.

I am waiting for House Of Seven Swords, Unlock The Lock, Willows and River above all.

We are not sure about the tracklist. I hope there would be more new songs. I don't like A Matter Of Time come to that.

But what worries me is how the voice is dealt on the disc. I really hate her voice on Young Heart and Blue Pool whereas the songs could have been absolutely perfect.  

We will see.

But anyway I am still in love of her music. I really like how she has evolved since ATM.
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Post by: coldyoungheart on August 17, 2015, 10:07:13 am
I must admit, I'm very disappointed with the studio version of Take It Easy. I've always loved the live performances. That tweaky sound sample she uses. You could call it 'atmospheric electro'. It's still there in the album version but very subdued, buried underneath it all. I wonder if John had something to do with this... Don't get me wrong, I like the guy but V mentioned that he did added some guitar on it and it's pretty prominent, you can't deny that.

I just really wish it sounded more like the live performances. Just piano, the tweaky sample loop and Skye's lovely contribution of course.

You know, I totally felt the same when the EP came out. Take it Easy was probably(ah it's so hard to pick just ONE) my favourite out of all the live songs that Vanessa had played. I especially loved the live intro to the song. The 'atmospheric electro', like you said. It's hard to describe! I described it to one of my friends as 'it sounds like stars'. I know it doesn't make sense, but whatever. Like you said, you can kind of still hear it, but it seems like it's 'underneath' all the other sounds. As for the guitar(I actually thought it was a trumpet at first lol), I wasn't the biggest fan at first either.

I have to say though, the studio version reeeeaally grew on me. I just want to melt in it. It's so dreamy, and atmospheric and beautiful. Like the live version, but in a different way. Now I'm really glad that we have both.

I wonder how the 'live living room session' of Take it Easy will sound!
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Post by: coldyoungheart on August 17, 2015, 10:10:41 am
But what worries me is how the voice is dealt on the disc. I really hate her voice on Young Heart and Blue Pool whereas the songs would have been absolutely perfect. 

We will see.

But anyway I am still in love of her music. I really like how she has evolved since ATM.

That's too bad! Personally I loooooove the way her voice sounds in those songs!

At least you have the 'live living room session' version of the songs to look forward to :)
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Post by: Fred_Saboya on August 17, 2015, 10:28:49 am
take it easy is my favorite so far! god, the "take it easy" part on the first chorus is just right! i mean when i hear that im like "WTF, THANK YOU SO MUCH!" the orchestration is flawless, everything is very chill and low key. thats exactly how i want it. perfect, V!

what i love about the songs is that i feel like she wrote them with the studio version in mind. the living room version of Operator sounded weird to me at first, but when i heard the studio version it made much more sense. the songs are how they are meant to be i guess.

but i see what you guys mean. its different, not what we're used to. but i love the direction she's taking. it will grow on you guys, just give it time.
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Post by: private-radio on August 17, 2015, 01:42:29 pm
http://www.americansongwriter.com/2015/08/writer-week-vanessa-carlton/ (http://www.americansongwriter.com/2015/08/writer-week-vanessa-carlton/)

Very good interview !
"If I do another album" she says. I hope so !! She wants to see me die otherwise ! ;)
After that can't wait for the studio version of NWSUTB and A Matter Of Time with girls and guitar... Mmm it is likely to be very different from the song we know. And for the best I hope because as I said I loathe the song.

And I was wondering coldyoungheart, are we sure to hear a "living room" version of Take It Easy ? I thought this session had just been recorded for the EP.
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Post by: MrMoon on August 17, 2015, 08:06:15 pm


And I was wondering coldyoungheart, are we sure to hear a "living room" version of Take It Easy ? I thought this session had just been recorded for the EP.

yes! she said somewhere else she recorded the whole album live and stripped down for the deluxe version.
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Post by: fantastical on August 18, 2015, 09:49:12 am
I must admit, I'm very disappointed with the studio version of Take It Easy. I've always loved the live performances. That tweaky sound sample she uses. You could call it 'atmospheric electro'. It's still there in the album version but very subdued, buried underneath it all. I wonder if John had something to do with this... Don't get me wrong, I like the guy but V mentioned that he did added some guitar on it and it's pretty prominent, you can't deny that.

I just really wish it sounded more like the live performances. Just piano, the tweaky sample loop and Skye's lovely contribution of course.

You know, I totally felt the same when the EP came out. Take it Easy was probably(ah it's so hard to pick just ONE) my favourite out of all the live songs that Vanessa had played. I especially loved the live intro to the song. The 'atmospheric electro', like you said. It's hard to describe! I described it to one of my friends as 'it sounds like stars'. I know it doesn't make sense, but whatever. Like you said, you can kind of still hear it, but it seems like it's 'underneath' all the other sounds. As for the guitar(I actually thought it was a trumpet at first lol), I wasn't the biggest fan at first either.

I have to say though, the studio version reeeeaally grew on me. I just want to melt in it. It's so dreamy, and atmospheric and beautiful. Like the live version, but in a different way. Now I'm really glad that we have both.

I wonder how the 'live living room session' of Take it Easy will sound!

That's absolutely true. We have both versions now. I really really do hope that the 'live living room' version of Take It Easy has Skye's violin on it but I kinda doubt it. It will be just her and the piano like the other songs, which isn't a bad thing at all but I just LOVE the violin. Like the live version of Blue Pool is SO beautiful.
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Post by: fantastical on August 18, 2015, 10:02:18 am
I completely agree !

Personally I had not noticed TIE and O were so similar. I have never liked Take It Easy anyway. But Operator makes me feel so good.

I am looking forward to listening to the album.

Nothing Where Something used to be is also a very good song. My favorite one of the EP so far.

I am waiting for House Of Seven Swords, Unlock The Lock, Willows and River above all.

We are not sure about the tracklist. I hope there would be more new songs. I don't like A Matter Of Time come to that.

But what worries me is how the voice is dealt on the disc. I really hate her voice on Young Heart and Blue Pool whereas the songs could have been absolutely perfect.  

We will see.

But anyway I am still in love of her music. I really like how she has evolved since ATM.

I personally dislike her take on guitar driven songs (Dear California is an exception though). Like what you mentioned, A Matter of Time and Young Heart... gag. It's inspired because of John but like I said before I have nothing against the guy BUT Vanessa radiates on her piano driven songs. That's why we became fans in the first place. So it's just awry to me that she's trying new things and venturing other paths. Stick to what you know V. If it ain't broke don't fix it.
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Post by: Martin. on August 18, 2015, 10:05:59 am
"Nothing Where Something Used To Be" just screams 'HIT' to me. It's beautiful and written in a way that can connect to the masses. "Matter of Time" is the same too, so I'm not surprised Vanessa has commented on that and picked it up.

Really looking forward to this record. As it stands, I didn't think she could top 'Rabbits on the Run' but I'm starting to think I could be wrong.

Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: coldyoungheart on August 18, 2015, 10:15:36 am


And I was wondering coldyoungheart, are we sure to hear a "living room" version of Take It Easy ? I thought this session had just been recorded for the EP.

yes! she said somewhere else she recorded the whole album live and stripped down for the deluxe version.

Yep! She's confirmed it a couple times at least.
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Post by: coldyoungheart on August 18, 2015, 10:18:33 am

"If I do another album" she says. I hope so !! She wants to see me die otherwise ! ;)


I caught that too! God I hope she decides to do another album! Like Liberman hasn't even been released and I'm already looking forward to it lol.
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Post by: private-radio on August 18, 2015, 01:45:35 pm
I completely agree !

Personally I had not noticed TIE and O were so similar. I have never liked Take It Easy anyway. But Operator makes me feel so good.

I am looking forward to listening to the album.

Nothing Where Something used to be is also a very good song. My favorite one of the EP so far.

I am waiting for House Of Seven Swords, Unlock The Lock, Willows and River above all.

We are not sure about the tracklist. I hope there would be more new songs. I don't like A Matter Of Time come to that.

But what worries me is how the voice is dealt on the disc. I really hate her voice on Young Heart and Blue Pool whereas the songs could have been absolutely perfect.  

We will see.

But anyway I am still in love of her music. I really like how she has evolved since ATM.

I personally dislike her take on guitar driven songs (Dear California is an exception though). Like what you mentioned, A Matter of Time and Young Heart... gag. It's inspired because of John but like I said before I have nothing against the guy BUT Vanessa radiates on her piano driven songs. That's why we became fans in the first place. So it's just awry to me that she's trying new things and venturing other paths. Stick to what you know V. If it ain't broke don't fix it.

It is not new and not only due to John to me.
I have never liked for example Get Good whereas I am in love with the omnichord live version ! The problem is clearly the guitar in the studio version.

But I must confess I am not really objective when it comes to Vanessa's piano.
As you said we became fan of Vanessa AND her piano and finally at the same time.
I have the feeling she betrays her art when she gives up on her piano. 

By the way I really hope she will try new things on the piano. She has not  done her best in this area since Rabbits.
She used to be a classical pianist and can play rock, pop and even jazz. She is not ambitious enough although she is obviously gifted enough. Pity !

I think it is great she tries new sounds. She is very innovative and that is good but with her piano it is better.
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Post by: sarab on August 18, 2015, 03:38:24 pm
I completely agree !

Personally I had not noticed TIE and O were so similar. I have never liked Take It Easy anyway. But Operator makes me feel so good.

I am looking forward to listening to the album.

Nothing Where Something used to be is also a very good song. My favorite one of the EP so far.

I am waiting for House Of Seven Swords, Unlock The Lock, Willows and River above all.

We are not sure about the tracklist. I hope there would be more new songs. I don't like A Matter Of Time come to that.

But what worries me is how the voice is dealt on the disc. I really hate her voice on Young Heart and Blue Pool whereas the songs could have been absolutely perfect.  

We will see.

But anyway I am still in love of her music. I really like how she has evolved since ATM.

I personally dislike her take on guitar driven songs (Dear California is an exception though). Like what you mentioned, A Matter of Time and Young Heart... gag. It's inspired because of John but like I said before I have nothing against the guy BUT Vanessa radiates on her piano driven songs. That's why we became fans in the first place. So it's just awry to me that she's trying new things and venturing other paths. Stick to what you know V. If it ain't broke don't fix it.

It is not new and not only due to John to me.
I have never liked for example Get Good whereas I am in love with the omnichord live version ! The problem is clearly the guitar in the studio version.

But I must confess I am not really objective when it comes to Vanessa's piano.
As you said we became fan of Vanessa AND her piano and finally at the same time.
I have the feeling she betrays her art when she gives up on her piano. 

By the way I really hope she will try new things on the piano. She has not  done her best in this area since Rabbits.
She used to be a classical pianist and can play rock, pop and even jazz. She is not ambitious enough although she is obviously gifted enough. Pity !

I think it is great she tries new sounds. She is very innovative and that is good but with her piano it is better.

I agree.. rabbits began her departure or addition of guitar driving songs rather than piano, not just because of John.. I think that we are influenced by those around us when we are working on a project.  I mean, listen to harmonium.. that album has Stephen Jenkins written alllllll over it.  the drums arrangements are similar to 3eb songs.  I think she had a very specific sound in mind for another album back when she was touring for rabbits and pre-john.  she did HTB with steve Osborne and knew she wanted to create more with him, which she did.  she also tweeted a lot of music she was listening to back then and it also is very reflective of the electronic sound and reverb that she's doing.  so to point a finger to him for this change is unfair to him, but also unfair to vanessa.  she is a 35 year old woman.  she has a mind of her own and will do her own thing.  she no longer bows down to record companies OR men OR women who try to tame her!
I personally like the echoy vocals because it accomplishes exactly. what. she. wanted. to. accomplish.  a dreamy vibe that takes you out of your physical body and into an otherworldly realm where you can just explore and be trippy for a bit.  sink into the songs and just let her voice and the reverb take you away!  I am super excited for the vinyl of this because I can just imagine lighting some candles, incesnse, turning off the lights and just letting her take me away to that place of Technicolor dreams.

I too agree that take it easy live sounds like stars.. I totally get it. good analogy.  that song has never been one of my favorites because of that little gadget she uses live.  I like how in the studio version it gets lost in the guitar reverb, but still pokes through every once in a while, kind of like a cloudy nigh, when the stars play beak a poo with the clouds
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Post by: fantastical on August 19, 2015, 02:08:40 am
It is not new and not only due to John to me.
I have never liked for example Get Good whereas I am in love with the omnichord live version ! The problem is clearly the guitar in the studio version.

But I must confess I am not really objective when it comes to Vanessa's piano.
As you said we became fan of Vanessa AND her piano and finally at the same time.
I have the feeling she betrays her art when she gives up on her piano. 

By the way I really hope she will try new things on the piano. She has not  done her best in this area since Rabbits.
She used to be a classical pianist and can play rock, pop and even jazz. She is not ambitious enough although she is obviously gifted enough. Pity !

I think it is great she tries new sounds. She is very innovative and that is good but with her piano it is better.

I fully concur with everything you said. But I do have to add that I know very well that guitar driven songs aren't new endeavors of hers. I did say that Dear California is an exception but I didn't mention Get Good for a reason and that's because I don't like the guitar at all and the song in general never resonated with me. I do truly believe that John has influenced her work progress on this album in a way. I'm just not looking forward to A Matter of Time and possible other songs where her excellent piano skills take a backseat for more guitar driven ones. She and piano are intertwined and she mustn't stray too far from it.
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: Ghisy on August 19, 2015, 09:05:14 am
"If I do another album" she says. I hope so !! She wants to see me die otherwise ! ;)

Goodness, I almost screamed at my phone (or PC? Can't remember!) when I read this part! I sincerely hope this will not be the last album ever from Vanessa. It would just be too sad...  :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: Rabbits_on_the_run on August 19, 2015, 12:31:28 pm
Guys, don't worry! I remember Vanessa saying this after Rabbits too. Plus, she still loves creating music and is already writing new songs. I don't see a single reason why she'd give up the 'best job in the world'.  ;)
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: MrMoon on August 19, 2015, 05:18:23 pm
i guess i'm the only person here that likes the guitar driven material just as much?? for me it adds a new and interesting dynamic.

personally i love get good and the live version of a matter of time. the guitar for get good sounds like a pretty dusty field and an abstract painting to me; and there is piano in it, it's just buried under the guitar.

me and my friend realized that young heart would've really taken off if they had recorded drums to it. my friend played along to it and it took on a whole new life.
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: Arwen on August 19, 2015, 11:43:44 pm
Two new vids up on People!
http://www.people.com/people/videos/0,,20946254,00.html

Also,
she is a 35 year old woman.  she has a mind of her own and will do her own thing.  she no longer bows down to record companies OR men OR women who try to tame her!

So much this! I'm sure she's inspired by John, but to say anything on her record was someone else's doing at this point is unfair. It's weird, I remember not really feeling Get Good that much when she first debuted it on tour because there was no piano and now I'm obsessed with it. Listening to it literally feels like wrapping a blanket around yourself. Matter of Time is probably my least favorite of the new songs so I'm hoping the same thing happens when the studio version comes out. 
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: Alex0821 on August 20, 2015, 04:53:39 am
I completely agree !

Personally I had not noticed TIE and O were so similar. I have never liked Take It Easy anyway. But Operator makes me feel so good.

I am looking forward to listening to the album.

Nothing Where Something used to be is also a very good song. My favorite one of the EP so far.

I am waiting for House Of Seven Swords, Unlock The Lock, Willows and River above all.

We are not sure about the tracklist. I hope there would be more new songs. I don't like A Matter Of Time come to that.

But what worries me is how the voice is dealt on the disc. I really hate her voice on Young Heart and Blue Pool whereas the songs could have been absolutely perfect.  

We will see.

But anyway I am still in love of her music. I really like how she has evolved since ATM.

I personally dislike her take on guitar driven songs (Dear California is an exception though). Like what you mentioned, A Matter of Time and Young Heart... gag. It's inspired because of John but like I said before I have nothing against the guy BUT Vanessa radiates on her piano driven songs. That's why we became fans in the first place. So it's just awry to me that she's trying new things and venturing other paths. Stick to what you know V. If it ain't broke don't fix it.

Haha. This reminds me of how scandalized some people felt when "Nolita Fairytale" came out and started not with a piano, but with percussion! Such a departure!  :o

I'm at peace with the fact that Vanessa has entered a new era with her music. I don't think she'll ever return to the kinds of mainstream productions we were used to hearing from her before ROTR. I'll always kind of miss that (I mean, can you imagine "Bride" or "Fairweather Friend" with a "Heroes and Thieves"-style production? Unf.) but the new music is so lovely that I don't mind. At its core, I think the music is still largely the same: mostly piano-driven, thoughtful lyrics, catchy melody, and of course Vanessa's pretty voice.
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: Alex0821 on August 20, 2015, 04:57:32 am
i guess i'm the only person here that likes the guitar driven material just as much?? for me it adds a new and interesting dynamic.

personally i love get good and the live version of a matter of time. the guitar for get good sounds like a pretty dusty field and an abstract painting to me; and there is piano in it, it's just buried under the guitar.

me and my friend realized that young heart would've really taken off if they had recorded drums to it. my friend played along to it and it took on a whole new life.

You're certainly not alone. I LOVE "Get Good." It's one of my favorite songs on ROTR, and that's saying something since there are a lot of great songs on that album. It's a song I've really connected with. In fact, I think I'll listen to it right now  8)

And I agree about Young Heart. I rather like that song, too, though I'd love to hear it with a fuller production.
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: sarab on August 20, 2015, 09:31:41 am
i guess i'm the only person here that likes the guitar driven material just as much?? for me it adds a new and interesting dynamic.

personally i love get good and the live version of a matter of time. the guitar for get good sounds like a pretty dusty field and an abstract painting to me; and there is piano in it, it's just buried under the guitar.

me and my friend realized that young heart would've really taken off if they had recorded drums to it. my friend played along to it and it took on a whole new life.

I like it .. so far.  I actually haven't listened to matter of time yet, since I haven't heard it live and i'm trying to avoid listening to the music (unless officially release, because of course I have the EP).  I also like it as long as the bulk of her stuff it still piano!  if there was an entire album of NO piano and all guitar, then, well, we'd have a problem.  hehe
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: coldyoungheart on August 20, 2015, 07:31:15 pm
I freaking adore Get Good! I could listen to that song 100 times on a loop. The studio version as well as the live one.

I have to say that I'm not the biggest fan of A Matter of Time, but I'm excited to see what they've done with it in the studio :)
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: MrMoon on August 20, 2015, 08:51:25 pm
also i love the dynamic she's got with skye, but it'd be cool to add a minimalist drummer doing some minor percussion work live.
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: Rabbits_on_the_run on August 21, 2015, 10:09:35 am
A Matter of time is one of my favourites this far!! And I also love Get Good and Dear California. I love Vanessa no matter what she does. I completely trust her vision. The lack of piano doesn't bother me at all, even though her piano riffs are incredible. I have to say though, that I sometimes miss the 'clarity' of her vocals the way it was pre-Rabbits (although this is probably my favorite record of hers). 
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: blueglove on August 22, 2015, 12:21:30 pm
I think the only songs I dislike from the compendium of Vanessa is Get Good and California, oh and that song she released earlier this year as an EP sampler. Young Heart or something. They are a different direction than I like in her music. I'm still super excited to see the new stuff!
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: lavender skies on August 22, 2015, 02:55:50 pm
Just listened to FWF at the Hollywood Cafe from a few years back. I think what I miss the most about her old stuff is the passion. Like I know this is her dream record and I'm proud of her and do like her new stuff, but I miss when she would almost yell the songs sometimes. It seemed so much more real. I know dreamy and ethereal is her goal, and it's beautiful, but I've been listening to Harmonium and her demo tape nonstop recently. 
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: KULPDOGG on August 23, 2015, 01:18:23 pm
Just listened to FWF at the Hollywood Cafe from a few years back. I think what I miss the most about her old stuff is the passion. Like I know this is her dream record and I'm proud of her and do like her new stuff, but I miss when she would almost yell the songs sometimes. It seemed so much more real. I know dreamy and ethereal is her goal, and it's beautiful, but I've been listening to Harmonium and her demo tape nonstop recently. 

love the demo tape and early demo stuff because to me, they are the most raw emotional songs. you can really feel it in her voice, you can feel the thick emotion.
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: nutnlp on August 24, 2015, 11:13:22 am
Anybody else think the album might be delayed a bit past October? It just seems like we should have a release date and tour news by now.  Hmmm who knows haha
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: coldyoungheart on August 24, 2015, 12:10:12 pm
Anybody else think the album might be delayed a bit past October? It just seems like we should have a release date and tour news by now.  Hmmm who knows haha

I agree... It's weird.
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: MrMoon on August 24, 2015, 07:43:58 pm
i wouldn't worry. lana del rey's new album comes out next month and the release date was only announced a week or so ago.

Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: Rabbits_on_the_run on August 24, 2015, 09:52:25 pm
Please no pushback!! I do believe it's happening though, she got some good press coverage for her EP, the album's been done for a long time, she's ready to go back on the road again.. it would be a stupid move to delay the record.
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: nutnlp on August 25, 2015, 03:07:33 am
I'm just being impatient and paranoid  ha-ha
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: lavender skies on August 26, 2015, 02:41:04 pm
OH PLEASE PLEASE PLEASEEEEEE let her release willows tomorrow

https://instagram.com/p/63PvFqMdlG/?taken-by=vanessacarltonactual
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: Alex0821 on August 26, 2015, 03:06:57 pm
Wow!
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: coldyoungheart on August 26, 2015, 06:41:23 pm
Super pumped for Willows!
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: Rabbits_on_the_run on August 26, 2015, 09:42:17 pm
I hope it comes with an official annoucement of the record (artwork, release date, tracklisting)!!!
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: nutnlp on August 27, 2015, 12:20:24 am
Me too! It sounds beautiful.
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: TRINIST on August 27, 2015, 03:57:20 am
http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/music/2015/08/27/vanessa-carlton-willows-liberman-premiere/32453093/ (http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/music/2015/08/27/vanessa-carlton-willows-liberman-premiere/32453093/)

Song, release date, album cover  ;D
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: joey on August 27, 2015, 04:06:31 am
http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/music/2015/08/27/vanessa-carlton-willows-liberman-premiere/32453093/ (http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/music/2015/08/27/vanessa-carlton-willows-liberman-premiere/32453093/)

Song, release date, album cover  ;D

Just when the kids started to complain.

But cool. So we're back to having Vanessa on the cover. :D Minimalist. I like it. Though I hope there's some artwork. I LOVE her album artwork.

And Willows. That harmonizing. Goosebumps.

Also, is it just me or does the song have an escalating percussion beat? Not a musician so... dunno if it makes sense but like the percussion is not consistent... It seems to get faster with the song? That was interesting.
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: lavender skies on August 27, 2015, 06:31:31 am
Omg dat harmonizing at the end. I cried haha. CANNOT WAIT
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: nutnlp on August 27, 2015, 08:39:33 am
Not the album cover I was expecting at all haha
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: MrMoon on August 27, 2015, 10:19:49 am
I was expecting synths and drums too but I like this a lot.

Edit-

I'm also listening on my phone speakers at work so I'm probably missing a lot of details
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: Arwen on August 27, 2015, 11:49:51 am
I love it!! It's not as electronica-y as Operator or Take It Easy but really pretty! The lyric video was nice too, beautiful aesthetics; it's so her. If that was by any other artist I'd see it and think, "That's so Vanessa."

Nice album cover too! Could she get any prettier?!  :o
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: joey on August 27, 2015, 11:56:24 am
Not the album cover I was expecting at all haha

OK. Is it just me or does she look like a LoTR elf?
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: lavender skies on August 27, 2015, 12:44:55 pm
Okay I know the lyric vid is official, but some of the lyrics on the vid don't sound like what she's saying.
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: private-radio on August 27, 2015, 03:03:13 pm
I really like Willows. It sounds like an Harmonium song and I must say I have always been in love with this album so it is a guilty pleasure to ear a song in the same vibe. The lyrics are very different however.

I also like the album cover even if I had rather have a more colorful cover.  Ya I have exactly the same feeling she looks like a dreamy creature, an elf from Lord of the rings.

Still waiting for the final tracklist now !
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: nutnlp on August 27, 2015, 03:04:57 pm
Willows is so beautiful.  Lol at these elf comments.  Vanessa would probably take that as a compliment. I can't wait for the tracklist.  Hoping River is the official first single! Haha
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: private-radio on August 27, 2015, 03:25:09 pm
I found the tracklist !
http://music.mxdwn.com/2015/08/27/news/vanessa-carlton-announces-new-album-liberman-for-october-2015-release/

1) take it easy
2) willows
3) house of seven swords
4) operator
5) blue pool
6) nothing where something used to be
7) matter of time
8) unlock the lock
9) river
10) ascension

Deluxe version :
1) blue pool (living room session)
2) river (living room session)
3) take it easy (living room session)
4) willows (living room session)
5) house of seven swords (living room session)
6) operator (living room session)
7) unlock the lock (living room session)
8) nothing where something used to be (living room session)
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: lavender skies on August 27, 2015, 03:29:05 pm
I really like Willows. It sounds like an Harmonium song and I must say I have always been in love with this album so it is a guilty pleasure to ear a song in the same vibe. The lyrics are very different however.

I also like the album cover even if I had rather have a more colorful cover.  Ya I have exactly the same feeling she looks like a dreamy creature, an elf from Lord of the rings.

Still waiting for the final tracklist now !

Totally agree. The piano reminds me of HAWBTW. I've been listening to Harmonium on repeat lately and Willows is making me excited.
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: sarab on August 27, 2015, 04:20:51 pm
I was expecting synths and drums too but I like this a lot.

Edit-

I'm also listening on my phone speakers at work so I'm probably missing a lot of details

in comparison to the album version of take it easy, there is less detail. mostly just piano, the drum beat, and the violin.. at first I thought it was guitar then I remembered that live, Skye is plucking the violin, so I'm thinking that's what I'm hearing.  the harmonizing is really the only "effect" used on the song that I can tell.
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: sarab on August 27, 2015, 04:22:16 pm
she looks great on the album cover, of course, but I am not a fan.  I don't like the white background, and I wish I could see more of her face.  the pose also seems forced (not natural)
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: nutnlp on August 27, 2015, 06:27:10 pm
I like the album cover..I just expected it to be more plain like rabbits and the blue pool ep....man, i really liked that earth art she was using for a while with ill wait for you...hopefully that finds its way back somehow.
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: nutnlp on August 27, 2015, 06:32:00 pm
It's not just a digital release right?

http://dinealonerecords.com/releases/liberman/

On DineAlone's website it's listed as a "Digital" and "Digital Deluxe" release option..while other artists on their roster have a pre-order option for physical discs.  

I know they're probably just working on it still, but I really hope it's not just a digital release.

I need to hold it in my hands haha. (even though I bought IWFY & BP EP and past VC digital releases)
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: MrMoon on August 27, 2015, 07:17:58 pm
according to the dine alone site, the living room session of house of seven swords will be the demo. i'm interested in hearing that. i just wish we were getting a few other songs too, but i'll get by.
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: initially_yours on August 27, 2015, 08:30:08 pm
Awesome to have the studio version, but I gotta say, I prefer the live version with the extended violin intro. It had such a great Celtic/Irish feel to it that I thought worked magically.
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: nutnlp on August 28, 2015, 12:07:52 am
Pre-order for physical CDs(both standard and deluxe) are up on Amazon.
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: fantastical on August 28, 2015, 07:59:47 am
I agree with Willows having that Harmonium touch, which is easily her best album imo. I was very much meh about the live performances of Willows and didn't want it on the album but it translated so much better in the studio. It's exactly how I wanted it to sound. It grabs you. Weird since it isn't so different from the live version but it does capture your attention and you get all the feels.
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: Alex0821 on August 28, 2015, 09:04:53 am
I agree with Willows having that Harmonium touch, which is easily her best album imo. I was very much meh about the live performances of Willows and didn't want it on the album but it translated so much better in the studio. It's exactly how I wanted it to sound. It grabs you. Weird since it isn't so different from the live version but it does capture your attention and you get all the feels.

I totally agree with this! I'm so happy it's on iTunes already so I can buy it. I hate downloading her songs illegally, even though I know I'm gonna purchase them when I can. It's nice to support her  :)
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: darren1711 on August 28, 2015, 09:12:15 am
Beginning to worry that the album is not going to be available to buy internationally  :(
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: Rabbits_on_the_run on August 28, 2015, 09:21:25 am
Love the cover, love the fact that Vanessa's on it and I love the song. As of now it's my favourite studio version I've heard from that record. It's a shame that Young heart isn't on the record though, I was hoping it would at least be part of the living room session. And great to have the confirmation that after 4 records Vanessa will finally have a deluxe version available for one of her albums :D
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: coldyoungheart on August 28, 2015, 05:52:18 pm
Willows sounds amaaaaazing. So relaxing. Album cover looks great!

Can't wait to actually be able to pre-order the album on iTunes. I'm probably going to get a physical copy as well, just... because. haha.
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: Ghisy on August 29, 2015, 02:44:27 am
Beginning to worry that the album is not going to be available to buy internationally  :(

You can already pre-order both versions on Amazon.com and they ship overseas! I know I did!  ;)

Screw digital, long live physical CDs!  :P
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: sarab on August 29, 2015, 05:39:25 pm
Awesome to have the studio version, but I gotta say, I prefer the live version with the extended violin intro. It had such a great Celtic/Irish feel to it that I thought worked magically.

me tooooooo!!  I'm just partial to any violin really.  she and skye have such chemistry together musically I just love watching them together and hearing his talent.  I also played in a fiddle club growing up and that's why I loved this song so much live because it has that irish jig to it, which is mostly lost in translation to studio.  It's still vanessa and I still love it.  It's an extra version of a great song, how can you go wrong with that???

someone also mentioned that they wish we had more demo versions of the other songs but if you think about it.. all the live stuff she did before even recording the album can be considered demos and she had the whole record done before shopping around to labels.. just putting a positive spin on it!
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: fantastical on August 30, 2015, 10:11:29 am
I already find this album sounds 'bigger' than Rabbits. That album is so earthy. She completely delved herself into the simple recording process and keeping things minimalistic. The only studio version song we've received so far that sounds like something from Rabbits is Blue Pool. The production reminds me of Tall Tales for Spring for some reason. No, you can definitely tell they upped the ante for this record. A different sonic landscape. I would love a hybrid of Rabbits and Harmonium. The surprising production turnout of Take It Easy reminds me of when we first heard the album version of Hands On Me. All the little details and sound effects. Nothing Where Something Used To Be sounds perfect as is. It already sounds like a studio version! Very curious to hear the outcome. Looking forward to hearing the album and live bonus tracks soon. It'll probably be worth the one year delay.
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: Arwen on September 02, 2015, 11:53:17 pm
Cute new video interview with CBS!

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/vanessa-carlton-on-album-liberman-motherhood/

Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: Arwen on September 03, 2015, 06:04:17 pm
New music videos coming soon, with Vanessa in them! A couple shots from her twitter, looking gorge:

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/COBWXR_VAAAbj0h.jpg)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/COBKevWXAAE9QGj.jpg)

I'm so excited that it said "videos", as in more than one. Take It Easy, Willows, or Operator?
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: coldyoungheart on September 04, 2015, 05:36:47 pm
Nice!!! Can't wait for the vids :)
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: coldyoungheart on September 04, 2015, 06:17:32 pm
Cute new video interview with CBS!

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/vanessa-carlton-on-album-liberman-motherhood/



I love what she said about Blue Pool being about how a women's mind works - it being like a garden with secret doors and 'you have to figure out your way in'. :)
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: coldyoungheart on September 04, 2015, 06:39:34 pm
V just replied to someone on Twitter and said that they filmed for two different songs!
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: private-radio on September 04, 2015, 11:57:35 pm
It is obvious it will be Willows and Take It Easy to me. The two songs are the songs she has wanted to promote since the beginning. First track of the album and first official single.
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: nutnlp on September 05, 2015, 01:54:55 am
http://www.vanessacarlton.com/media/
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: coldyoungheart on September 05, 2015, 04:20:06 pm
Great bio.

She looks great in the picture with the white outfit, but it kind of looks like a pyjama lol.
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: Fred_Saboya on September 10, 2015, 10:18:15 am
Quote
Preorder your signed copy of Liberman now through @vanessacarlton’s webstore! Head to http://bit.ly/VClstore  for details

and when you preorder it you get "Nothing Where Something Used To Be" and if you choose the deluxe edition you get "House Of Seven Swords (Demo)" too!
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: coyote_revolver on September 10, 2015, 10:18:44 am
They also added a bunch of tour dates; hope all U.S. Nessaholics are able to attend the gigs and show Vanessa our love! :3

I REALLY want the autographed deluxe version :'(  
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: pswik91 on September 10, 2015, 10:31:12 am
I will be attending at least 5 of the shows! The ones in Ohio, and PA and hopefully the DC show. See you guys out there!
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: Arwen on September 10, 2015, 10:41:55 am
Quote
Preorder your signed copy of Liberman now through @vanessacarlton’s webstore! Head to http://bit.ly/VClstore  for details

and when you preorder it you get "Nothing Where Something Used To Be" and if you choose the deluxe edition you get "House Of Seven Swords (Demo)" too!

The studio version of NWSUTB?

Also, trailer for Liberman! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=av3z6bGgbis

Edit: Don't make the same mistake I did and checkout as a guest or you won't be able to download the free mp3 apparently :(
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: cassiemoy on September 10, 2015, 11:44:31 am
Quote
Preorder your signed copy of Liberman now through @vanessacarlton’s webstore! Head to http://bit.ly/VClstore  for details

and when you preorder it you get "Nothing Where Something Used To Be" and if you choose the deluxe edition you get "House Of Seven Swords (Demo)" too!

The studio version of NWSUTB?

Also, trailer for Liberman! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=av3z6bGgbis

Edit: Don't make the same mistake I did and checkout as a guest or you won't be able to download the free mp3 apparently :(

yep, messed up too. don't check out as guest/go straight to paypal w/o making an account.
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: Fred_Saboya on September 10, 2015, 12:14:31 pm
wow the video is awesome! i love the image of her staring the painting!

the song playing is ascension right? i love it! it's very youth lagoon. amazing.
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: Fred_Saboya on September 10, 2015, 02:35:43 pm
Quote
Preorder your signed copy of Liberman now through @vanessacarlton’s webstore! Head to http://bit.ly/VClstore  for details

and when you preorder it you get "Nothing Where Something Used To Be" and if you choose the deluxe edition you get "House Of Seven Swords (Demo)" too!

The studio version of NWSUTB?

Also, trailer for Liberman! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=av3z6bGgbis

Edit: Don't make the same mistake I did and checkout as a guest or you won't be able to download the free mp3 apparently :(

yep, messed up too. don't check out as guest/go straight to paypal w/o making an account.

i did the same. that's so lame. the main reason why i bought the CD right now was because of the digital downloads. so we just dont get to have the songs?
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: darren1711 on September 10, 2015, 02:48:47 pm
Quote
Preorder your signed copy of Liberman now through @vanessacarlton’s webstore! Head to http://bit.ly/VClstore  for details

and when you preorder it you get "Nothing Where Something Used To Be" and if you choose the deluxe edition you get "House Of Seven Swords (Demo)" too!

The studio version of NWSUTB?

Also, trailer for Liberman! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=av3z6bGgbis

Edit: Don't make the same mistake I did and checkout as a guest or you won't be able to download the free mp3 apparently :(

yep, messed up too. don't check out as guest/go straight to paypal w/o making an account.

i did the same. that's so lame. the main reason why i bought the CD right now was because of the digital downloads. so we just dont get to have the songs?

I did this also, so mad. There is really no way to figure it out in advance that I can see. Wish I'd popped on here earlier
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: darren1711 on September 10, 2015, 02:52:06 pm
wow the video is awesome! i love the image of her staring the painting!

the song playing is ascension right? i love it! it's very youth lagoon. amazing.

Yeah it's so good. Everything I've heard so far has me massively excited for the album.
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: Fred_Saboya on September 10, 2015, 02:55:34 pm
Quote
Preorder your signed copy of Liberman now through @vanessacarlton’s webstore! Head to http://bit.ly/VClstore  for details

and when you preorder it you get "Nothing Where Something Used To Be" and if you choose the deluxe edition you get "House Of Seven Swords (Demo)" too!

The studio version of NWSUTB?

Also, trailer for Liberman! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=av3z6bGgbis

Edit: Don't make the same mistake I did and checkout as a guest or you won't be able to download the free mp3 apparently :(

yep, messed up too. don't check out as guest/go straight to paypal w/o making an account.

i did the same. that's so lame. the main reason why i bought the CD right now was because of the digital downloads. so we just dont get to have the songs?

I did this also, so mad. There is really no way to figure it out in advance that I can see. Wish I'd popped on here earlier

i tried to contact them about this but havent got any answer yet.
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: darren1711 on September 10, 2015, 03:04:22 pm
Quote
Preorder your signed copy of Liberman now through @vanessacarlton’s webstore! Head to http://bit.ly/VClstore  for details

and when you preorder it you get "Nothing Where Something Used To Be" and if you choose the deluxe edition you get "House Of Seven Swords (Demo)" too!

The studio version of NWSUTB?

Also, trailer for Liberman! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=av3z6bGgbis

Edit: Don't make the same mistake I did and checkout as a guest or you won't be able to download the free mp3 apparently :(

yep, messed up too. don't check out as guest/go straight to paypal w/o making an account.

i did the same. that's so lame. the main reason why i bought the CD right now was because of the digital downloads. so we just dont get to have the songs?

I did this also, so mad. There is really no way to figure it out in advance that I can see. Wish I'd popped on here earlier

i tried to contact them about this but havent got any answer yet.

On the site it says "If you purchased a digital download, your download link is included in the sales receipt email that you will receive about 5 mins after your purchase is complete."

I got the receipt but no links, is it possible that they just aren't available yet?
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: Fred_Saboya on September 10, 2015, 03:07:56 pm
Quote
Preorder your signed copy of Liberman now through @vanessacarlton’s webstore! Head to http://bit.ly/VClstore  for details

and when you preorder it you get "Nothing Where Something Used To Be" and if you choose the deluxe edition you get "House Of Seven Swords (Demo)" too!

The studio version of NWSUTB?

Also, trailer for Liberman! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=av3z6bGgbis

Edit: Don't make the same mistake I did and checkout as a guest or you won't be able to download the free mp3 apparently :(

yep, messed up too. don't check out as guest/go straight to paypal w/o making an account.

i did the same. that's so lame. the main reason why i bought the CD right now was because of the digital downloads. so we just dont get to have the songs?

I did this also, so mad. There is really no way to figure it out in advance that I can see. Wish I'd popped on here earlier

i tried to contact them about this but havent got any answer yet.

On the site it says "If you purchased a digital download, your download link is included in the sales receipt email that you will receive about 5 mins after your purchase is complete."

I got the receipt but no links, is it possible that they just aren't available yet?

same here. but i saw somewhere that they send the links on the friday after the purchase. so i hope we get it tomorrow (which is still lame, because i think if we have been logged in while buying it we would already have the songs, but i'll take it.)
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: darren1711 on September 10, 2015, 03:09:45 pm
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Preorder your signed copy of Liberman now through @vanessacarlton’s webstore! Head to http://bit.ly/VClstore  for details

and when you preorder it you get "Nothing Where Something Used To Be" and if you choose the deluxe edition you get "House Of Seven Swords (Demo)" too!

The studio version of NWSUTB?

Also, trailer for Liberman! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=av3z6bGgbis

Edit: Don't make the same mistake I did and checkout as a guest or you won't be able to download the free mp3 apparently :(

yep, messed up too. don't check out as guest/go straight to paypal w/o making an account.

i did the same. that's so lame. the main reason why i bought the CD right now was because of the digital downloads. so we just dont get to have the songs?

I did this also, so mad. There is really no way to figure it out in advance that I can see. Wish I'd popped on here earlier

i tried to contact them about this but havent got any answer yet.

On the site it says "If you purchased a digital download, your download link is included in the sales receipt email that you will receive about 5 mins after your purchase is complete."

I got the receipt but no links, is it possible that they just aren't available yet?

same here. but i saw somewhere that they send the links on the friday after the purchase. so i hope we get it tomorrow (which is still lame, because i think if we have been logged in while buying it we would already have the songs, but i'll take it.)

Oh that's something at least. Fingers crossed for tomorrow then!
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: sarab on September 10, 2015, 03:44:39 pm
wow the video is awesome! i love the image of her staring the painting!

the song playing is ascension right? i love it! it's very youth lagoon. amazing.

I love the liberman video!  did you notice it's directed by her brother?  I also knew that was ascension right away because 1-it didn't sound like anything I've heard before, and i'm pretty sure I've heard at least snippets from all the songs except that one. and 2 - the chords ascend. it's super beautiful, and like "in the end" but in a more positive, uplifting way than it is.  definitely ending on a brighter note than ROTR (even though the message of ITE is ultimately a positive one, the atmosphere it creates is not, and it's a morbid concept for people to grasp sometimes, but I digress)
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: MrMoon on September 10, 2015, 07:14:43 pm
friends with skye on Facebook. he says he as an ableton rig setup for the tour. i'm so excited to see what they cook up.
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: nutnlp on September 10, 2015, 08:10:44 pm
Big day for V! Seeing her next week in LA..which I'm very thankful for since there are no cali dates in this batch of tour dates...maybe early next year?
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: joey on September 11, 2015, 04:02:02 am
That last tweet with the Florence + The Machine video(s) is very interesting. I wonder if it's a foreshadowing of what she intends to do.

I'll explain. I had this theory when I noted that Vanessa said that she had shot two videos.

So, F+M released the music video for two songs combined in one video itself. So both "Queen of Peace" and "Long & Lost" which are two separate songs on the HBHBHB album are back to back in that 9 minute video but like... the 'story' in the video continues.

I was wondering now that Vanessa has shot two videos if this means that she could be trying to do a similar thing? Maybe its a music video for two songs but in one video itself? Or was the second video she shot the trailer? Je ne sais pas! Was just hypothesizing since Vanessa has already praised F+M's last album and she's probably inspired?

On a side note F+M's videos for their last album HBHBHB are so far amazing! I've found all of them so poetic and metaphorical... like the visual art in them is really really amazing! It would be nice to see Vanessa take a page out of them!
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: KULPDOGG on September 11, 2015, 04:04:10 am
wow the video is awesome! i love the image of her staring the painting!

the song playing is ascension right? i love it! it's very youth lagoon. amazing.

I love the liberman video!  did you notice it's directed by her brother?  I also knew that was ascension right away because 1-it didn't sound like anything I've heard before, and i'm pretty sure I've heard at least snippets from all the songs except that one. and 2 - the chords ascend. it's super beautiful, and like "in the end" but in a more positive, uplifting way than it is.  definitely ending on a brighter note than ROTR (even though the message of ITE is ultimately a positive one, the atmosphere it creates is not, and it's a morbid concept for people to grasp sometimes, but I digress)

I wouldn't call "and I go and die" an uplifting ending to the song, but... we'll leave that for the song discussion thread :-P
I was surprised she just went ahead and just unveiled another song like that.
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: Rabbits_on_the_run on September 11, 2015, 08:37:30 am
Just for the record, I did register to order the album but I still can't download the 2 mp3 files. When I go to "My downloadable products" only one song appears and I can't get to the actual file. It's pretty weird.
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: saphire on September 11, 2015, 12:34:43 pm
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Just for the record, I did register to order the album but I still can't download the 2 mp3 files. When I go to "My downloadable products" only one song appears and I can't get to the actual file. It's pretty weird.

Same here. So does anyone actually have the songs and downloaded them?
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: coldyoungheart on September 11, 2015, 02:41:07 pm
Got both tracks by e-mail an hour ago. Both songs sound amazing lksmdlkadmalkmfsd.

I can't wait for this album!

Like, Vanessa said, it sounds like a dream. It's such an amazing feeling. I can't wait to take walks while listening to it.
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: CloudsLikeCathedrals on September 11, 2015, 03:13:46 pm
Anyone else get their downloads? I've been checking incessantly all day!
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: coldyoungheart on September 11, 2015, 04:21:10 pm
Anyone else get their downloads? I've been checking incessantly all day!

Did you check your spam box? Just in case!
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: saphire on September 11, 2015, 10:40:24 pm
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Anyone else get their downloads? I've been checking incessantly all day!
Did you check your spam box? Just in case!

Havn't got an E-Mail either. And checked my Spamordner. Nothing inthere too. Maybe we just have to be patient.
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: KULPDOGG on September 12, 2015, 05:38:34 am
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Just for the record, I did register to order the album but I still can't download the 2 mp3 files. When I go to "My downloadable products" only one song appears and I can't get to the actual file. It's pretty weird.

Same here. So does anyone actually have the songs and downloaded them?



same issue :(
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: KULPDOGG on September 12, 2015, 06:06:11 am
update:
by looking at the page source for the downloadable items page, I was able to find the link to download Nothing Where Something Used to Be, but NOT House of Seven Swords demo.
I think I contacted someone using the blue thingy at the bottom right of the page, so hopefully I get a reply soon, I REALLY cannot wait to download HoSS demo. >__<
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: MoneyMaker on September 12, 2015, 01:49:26 pm
Someone has download to send for me song nothing where something used to be + house of seven swords (original demo) a pm to me with link to download please thank you
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: Arwen on September 12, 2015, 02:17:40 pm
Yeah, still no email for me either. Someone tweeted her about though and she said, "they are having some issues but they will come sorry!"
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: Pushglow on September 12, 2015, 02:45:45 pm
Someone has download to send for me song nothing where something used to be + house of seven swords (original demo) a pm to me with link to download please thank you

You should try this link, the 2 songs are in there : http://tinyurl.com/pwrtee4





Sorry
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: MoneyMaker on September 12, 2015, 03:38:12 pm
Someone has download to send for me song nothing where something used to be + house of seven swords (original demo) a pm to me with link to download please thank you

You should try this link, the 2 songs are in there : http://tinyurl.com/pwrtee4


Sorry

are you kidding me talking I need to learn English
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: MoneyMaker on September 12, 2015, 03:42:45 pm
I will close my account on that site more boring the world vanessa releases music album everyone leaving hidden leaks to the same tired of it never can see o audio
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: coldyoungheart on September 12, 2015, 04:27:34 pm
Someone has download to send for me song nothing where something used to be + house of seven swords (original demo) a pm to me with link to download please thank you

You should try this link, the 2 songs are in there : http://tinyurl.com/pwrtee4





Sorry

Awh, come on. That's a really cheap shot...
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: Pushglow on September 13, 2015, 01:57:46 am
Someone has download to send for me song nothing where something used to be + house of seven swords (original demo) a pm to me with link to download please thank you

You should try this link, the 2 songs are in there : http://tinyurl.com/pwrtee4





Sorry

Awh, come on. That's a really cheap shot...

Well... Even Google translates better if you take time to type punctuation marks. I guess it's too much to ask. Anyway, I'm getting off topic.
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: fantastical on September 13, 2015, 05:31:43 am
http://bestevents.us/lawrence-vanessa-carlton-at-the-bottleneck/706188

Great review of the album! Really looking forward to hearing how trippy House of Seven Swords sounds in studio form.

I have to add again that it's a shame that the 'sound of stars' as someone described Take It Easy had to take a backseat in favor of John's guitar contribution. They really should have left well alone. That 'electronic sound' was/is so captivating live + the violin of course.
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: sarab on September 13, 2015, 09:54:58 am
wow the video is awesome! i love the image of her staring the painting!

the song playing is ascension right? i love it! it's very youth lagoon. amazing.

I love the liberman video!  did you notice it's directed by her brother?  I also knew that was ascension right away because 1-it didn't sound like anything I've heard before, and i'm pretty sure I've heard at least snippets from all the songs except that one. and 2 - the chords ascend. it's super beautiful, and like "in the end" but in a more positive, uplifting way than it is.  definitely ending on a brighter note than ROTR (even though the message of ITE is ultimately a positive one, the atmosphere it creates is not, and it's a morbid concept for people to grasp sometimes, but I digress)

I wouldn't call "and I go and die" an uplifting ending to the song, but... we'll leave that for the song discussion thread :-P
I was surprised she just went ahead and just unveiled another song like that.

ha! well I only watched once and didn't catch that lyric.  the music itself is more uplifting though. not as dark
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: nutnlp on September 13, 2015, 02:48:52 pm
MoneyMaker.....pre-order the album! xoxo
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: coldyoungheart on September 13, 2015, 08:17:30 pm
Interview and Blue Pool performance on Entertainment Weekly!

http://www.ew.com/article/2015/09/11/vanessa-carlton-blue-pool-video-ew

(I don't think this has been posted here before)
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: cassiemoy on September 14, 2015, 04:03:39 pm
woohoo! got the download links!!!
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: Arwen on September 14, 2015, 04:40:09 pm
woohoo! got the download links!!!

Me too! NWSUTB is just  :o
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: MrMoon on September 14, 2015, 05:05:51 pm
the house of seven swords demo is so pretty
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: Alex0821 on September 14, 2015, 05:12:31 pm
I'm jealous of everyone  :P I won't preorder the album since I've had bad experiences with preorders before, so I'll just buy it on iTunes the day it comes out.

On another note, do you all think there will be a music book for this album? I hope so!
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: MrMoon on September 14, 2015, 05:15:24 pm
I'm jealous of everyone  :P I won't preorder the album since I've had bad experiences with preorders before, so I'll just buy it on iTunes the day it comes out.

On another note, do you all think there will be a music book for this album? I hope so!

i definitely hope so! i want to incorporate the sheet music into some artwork!
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: sarab on September 14, 2015, 05:51:13 pm
woohoo! got the download links!!!

Me too! NWSUTB is just  :o

I like the "far away" part! not excited about the chorus but tis okay. I can't wait to play this album on vinyl, it will be epic
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: Rick on September 25, 2015, 09:33:52 am
https://itunes.apple.com/us/album/operator-single/id1040306358

Operator - Single just released to iTunes :)
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: Alex0821 on September 25, 2015, 09:43:10 am
Wow! I was not expecting that. I love these surprises!

I'm so glad that's the single though. It's quite good!
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: Pushglow on September 26, 2015, 04:36:19 am
https://itunes.apple.com/us/album/operator-single/id1040306358

Operator - Single just released to iTunes :)

Nice pick for the single (unlike Carousel)! I don't know why but for Operator, I wish she would make another White House music video with ballet dancing or like the more recently Coeur de Pirate's Oublie-Moi (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76EwKm5oL2Y).
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: nutnlp on September 26, 2015, 12:06:42 pm
You didn't like Carousel? It was a perfect single.  I felt like it was when she officially crossed over to her now-sound.  I don't think any other song on the album could have made for a better single..but that's just me.
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: Rabbits_on_the_run on September 26, 2015, 12:36:11 pm
You didn't like Carousel? It was a perfect single.  I felt like it was when she officially crossed over to her now-sound.  I don't think any other song on the album could have made for a better single..but that's just me.
I totally agree with you. Perfect song. Perfect single.
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: Pushglow on September 26, 2015, 01:32:04 pm
Yeah I don't know... In my opinion, Tall Tales or Dear California would have been better, they are more radio-friendly than Carourel.
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: coldyoungheart on September 26, 2015, 06:57:25 pm
You didn't like Carousel? It was a perfect single.  I felt like it was when she officially crossed over to her now-sound.  I don't think any other song on the album could have made for a better single..but that's just me.
I totally agree with you. Perfect song. Perfect single.

Definitely agree that Carousel was the perfect single! It was such a brilliant intro into the new era and her new sound. And without it I probably would have never discovered Vanessa's music! Carousel definitely has a very special place in my heart.

Dear California would have been amazing as a single though! Totally agree.
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: Alex0821 on September 27, 2015, 06:27:51 am
I loved ROTR but personally don't think any of the songs would have been that successful as singles. Of course, it depends on how we define success! But in terms of radio play, the production of the songs just didn't fit with the popular music at the time. In 2011 people were more interested in upbeat dance-pop like Katy Perry's "Firework," P!nk's "Raise Your Glass," and Lady Gaga's "Born This Way." If the album had been released a few years later, "Bride" or "Dear California" might have found a home on the radio next to Lorde's "Team," Christina Aguilera's "Say Something," and similar toned-down songs.

I'll be really interested to see how "Operator" does if that's the official single and gets sent to radio and a good MV. I don't follow American music that much anymore so I can't even guess. Hopefully she'll get on some late-night shows like she did during ROTR.
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: afterglow987 on September 28, 2015, 03:58:13 pm
woohoo! got the download links!!!

Me too! NWSUTB is just  :o

I like the "far away" part! not excited about the chorus but tis okay. I can't wait to play this album on vinyl, it will be epic

It would be fun to hear the fans in the audience sing the "away" part when Vanessa sings NWSUTB in her concerts. Kinda like when they would do the clapping for carousel.  
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: Alex0821 on September 28, 2015, 06:23:07 pm
woohoo! got the download links!!!

Me too! NWSUTB is just  :o

I like the "far away" part! not excited about the chorus but tis okay. I can't wait to play this album on vinyl, it will be epic

It would be fun to hear the fans in the audience sing the "away" part when Vanessa sings NWSUTB in her concerts. Kinda like when they would do the clapping for carousel.  

I just listened to it for the first time. The "far away" part sounded like what I figured it would based on the posts here, haha.

I don't really like the studio version, to be honest. The living room session is just soooo simple and pretty. I got too used to it haha. The instrumental is really cool towards the end though. I like the loud strums.
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: lavender skies on September 28, 2015, 06:56:22 pm
I don't really like it either and I'm not super excited for the album since she's released so many of the songs. Can't wait to see her live, but I think my excitement for new albums died with Heroes and Thieves.
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: fantastical on September 29, 2015, 04:41:37 am
The studio version of Nothing Where Something Used To Be is such a disappointment. She rushes through it. And what is it with the lack of piano? The emotional impact of "do it, do it" is also completely lost. Thank god we have the living room version. It's so soothing and doesn't sound live it all.
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: Alex0821 on September 29, 2015, 03:24:08 pm
Yeah I'm really glad we have the living room session of NWSUTB. It's probably my favorite thing on the album so far. So so good. The studio version is growing on my now, though. The outro kinda sounds to me like Animal Collective's "Winter Love" or something.
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: [sobriquet] on September 30, 2015, 06:35:33 pm
I personally like the studio version of NWSUTB because of the sheer fact that it is different from the living room sessions. I think it is very reflective to V's vision of the record--how it is a dreamy and dance-y music on one side and emotional on the other. Whereas the living room session version was about vulnerability, the studio version gives the impression of  a seance-y meditation on heartbreak. I also like the layering of echoes in this version because it does take me into that seemingly out-of-the-body experience she aims to achieve.

Did anyone also got the impression that ironically, the studio version sounds sadder as opposed to the living room sessions version which sounds more hopeful because of the bright piano notes? I'm getting this feeling that there's an actual change in the chords between the live and the studio versions.
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: fantastical on October 02, 2015, 08:19:49 am
Yes I noticed that too. The chord progression makes it sound sadder. Less hopeful like you said. That's actually quite a nice touch. The studio version is beginning to grow on me, in particular the intro and outro but the chorus remains AWFUL. They were doing peyote while coming up with that. The voice effects, those strange sounds and the way it goes by so quickly (thankfully).
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: LauraH on October 04, 2015, 08:23:14 am
I totally agree! I love both versions of the songs that we have studio versions of now. But then again, I've never heard a V song that I didn't like. The studio version of NWSUTB is perfection. I don't even care that there is no piano. I like that she is experimenting with her sound.
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: Young Teacher Heart on October 04, 2015, 03:11:54 pm
I personally like the studio version of NWSUTB because of the sheer fact that it is different from the living room sessions. I think it is very reflective to V's vision of the record--how it is a dreamy and dance-y music on one side and emotional on the other. Whereas the living room session version was about vulnerability, the studio version gives the impression of  a seance-y meditation on heartbreak. I also like the layering of echoes in this version because it does take me into that seemingly out-of-the-body experience she aims to achieve.

Did anyone also got the impression that ironically, the studio version sounds sadder as opposed to the living room sessions version which sounds more hopeful because of the bright piano notes? I'm getting this feeling that there's an actual change in the chords between the live and the studio versions.


Well said. I love the fact that there's this different take on the song in both the studio and the living room sessions. I love songs that have either duality in their lyrics and/or in the way that it is performed live and in its studio version. I think it speaks volumes of her musicality to create a song that serves different functions live and in the studio.

I cannot wait to hear the studio versions of the rest of the songs and compare them to the living room sessions.
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: Rabbits_on_the_run on October 05, 2015, 02:46:27 am
Can you guys believe the record will be released in less than 3 weeks? We've been waiting so long for this. Can't wait to take long walks while listenig to Liberman and watching autumn leaves fall. :D
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: _all_is_well_ on October 05, 2015, 04:24:06 pm
Yeah I'm really glad we have the living room session of NWSUTB. It's probably my favorite thing on the album so far. So so good. The studio version is growing on my now, though. The outro kinda sounds to me like Animal Collective's "Winter Love" or something.

Now I can't wait to hear it. Winters Love is one of my favorite songs!
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: fantastical on October 09, 2015, 03:00:43 am
Can you guys believe the record will be released in less than 3 weeks? We've been waiting so long for this. Can't wait to take long walks while listenig to Liberman and watching autumn leaves fall. :D

YES.
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: fantastical on October 09, 2015, 03:10:03 am

Well said. I love the fact that there's this different take on the song in both the studio and the living room sessions. I love songs that have either duality in their lyrics and/or in the way that it is performed live and in its studio version. I think it speaks volumes of her musicality to create a song that serves different functions live and in the studio.

I cannot wait to hear the studio versions of the rest of the songs and compare them to the living room sessions.

If you say it like that then I totally agree. Especially about the duality. Very curious now if the other living room sessions are vastly different to their studio version counterparts.

Still hope Unlock the Lock and especially House of Seven Swords sound like the live versions.

The only track I haven't spoiled myself to is River.
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: Rabbits_on_the_run on October 12, 2015, 12:08:09 pm
When is Vanessa starting to promote the record? She's had some great exposure before the release date was announced but it'd be great if there would be more now that it could actually bring people to buy the album. I hope it will do great, Liberman and Vanessa deserve it!!!
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: Alex0821 on October 13, 2015, 08:44:32 am
Watch the "Operator" video here: http://www.billboard.com/articles/news/6729338/vanessa-carlton-operator-video-premiere?utm_source=twitter
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: Young Teacher Heart on October 13, 2015, 02:20:31 pm

Well said. I love the fact that there's this different take on the song in both the studio and the living room sessions. I love songs that have either duality in their lyrics and/or in the way that it is performed live and in its studio version. I think it speaks volumes of her musicality to create a song that serves different functions live and in the studio.

I cannot wait to hear the studio versions of the rest of the songs and compare them to the living room sessions.

If you say it like that then I totally agree. Especially about the duality. Very curious now if the other living room sessions are vastly different to their studio version counterparts.


We're at 10 days now; so, we don't have to wait much longer. A part of me wishes that I would have refrained from listening to any of the live recordings she has done.

Still hope Unlock the Lock and especially House of Seven Swords sound like the live versions.

The only track I haven't spoiled myself to is River.
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: Arwen on October 13, 2015, 05:27:59 pm
I really loved the video! It's a cool concept and I think the visuals were really pretty.

(http://cdn.makeagif.com/media/10-14-2015/waKKyg.gif)

(http://cdn.makeagif.com/media/10-14-2015/wh-NGR.gif)

Also, wow at her explanation of the song meaning! I didn't think to interpret it that way but it makes sense.
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: coyote_revolver on October 13, 2015, 07:19:31 pm
This my first time hearing the studio version of 'Operator'; I love it <3

and yeah, the song explanation was really eye-opening :o
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: Rabbits_on_the_run on October 13, 2015, 10:45:00 pm
Amazing video. It's really beautiful, the director did an amazing job. The colors and everything, it almost feels like a David Fincher movie. I actually didn't expect Vanessa to be in it, which was a GREAT surprise! And love the studio version of the song. I really do believe it can do well on the charts or whatever. It has a great hook and sounds like something people might like to hear these days on the radio while it's still very Vanessa. Could this be her most radio-friendly song since the BNN era? I believe so.
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: lavender skies on October 14, 2015, 04:56:49 am
In at Starbucks right now and Blue Pool is playing!
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: lavender skies on October 14, 2015, 04:58:19 am
I remember Starbucks did this four years ago when Rabbits was about to come out
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: KULPDOGG on October 14, 2015, 05:27:27 am
I remember Starbucks did this four years ago when Rabbits was about to come out


right, I wonder what other songs are on that playlist other than Blue Pool.
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: fantastical on October 14, 2015, 09:48:15 am
Amazing video. It's really beautiful, the director did an amazing job. The colors and everything, it almost feels like a David Fincher movie. I actually didn't expect Vanessa to be in it, which was a GREAT surprise! And love the studio version of the song. I really do believe it can do well on the charts or whatever. It has a great hook and sounds like something people might like to hear these days on the radio while it's still very Vanessa. Could this be her most radio-friendly song since the BNN era? I believe so.

True.

imo this has potential HIT written all over it. She could make a decent comeback with Operator. If they can play Lorde on the radio then this can definitely move up the charts if they're smart enough to give it an actual add date and send it to radio.
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: private-radio on October 14, 2015, 11:56:21 am
Amazing video. It's really beautiful, the director did an amazing job. The colors and everything, it almost feels like a David Fincher movie. I actually didn't expect Vanessa to be in it, which was a GREAT surprise! And love the studio version of the song. I really do believe it can do well on the charts or whatever. It has a great hook and sounds like something people might like to hear these days on the radio while it's still very Vanessa. Could this be her most radio-friendly song since the BNN era? I believe so.

I disagree.  :-*
It is hard to understand why she has never managed to be commercially successful again since BNN. White House, Who’s To Say, Nolita Fairytale, Hands On Me or even Carousel were radio-friendly songs.
To me her early years are a genuine burden for her career. Let me explain. Her problem is the targeted public. People have only kept in mind A Thousand Miles, the girl with the piano, a very mainstream, commercial and annoying song. So people who could however enjoy her new stuff are not really interested in her. Why should they listen to this Michelle Branch- Sara Bareilles- or Kate Voegele-like girl? She suffers from a lack of credibility even if her new songs are enjoyable.
And on the contrary the first fans don’t recognize themselves in her new stuff far from her hits and her first album.
She is just missing her public because she is trapped into an in-between situation.
The album tends out to be brilliant, subtle and well-thought. But I don’t think this album could put Vanessa back on the road to success. It is unfair because she deserves it. She deserves one Grammy per year for her huge talent !
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: lavender skies on October 14, 2015, 02:21:32 pm
^I totally agree. I'm also still unsure why White Houses didn't do as well as I believe it should have. Perhaps because MTV banned the vid and TRL was the way for people to experience new music? In 2003/04 iTunes existed, but wasn't huge until like 2005 or so. I still remember the first time I heard WH. It was on the radio and I was struck by it. I was only 14 at the time, but I could still relate to it even then. And now at 25 it's still my most played song ever. It means so much to me and has helped me through any bad time in my life with friends or boyfriends.

I think Vanessa came out at a great time, but her singles did fit into a certain niche. Besides WH and WTS I think that Harmonium was too "dark" for the general public that listened to the radio at the time. I actually think Harmonium could be really successful if released now. I will always cherish Heroes and I cannot for the life of me not understand why Hands and The One and Fools Like Me didn't get more (if any) airplay. Maybe a generic Top 40 station wouldn't, but there are a ton of stations that would.

I think commercial success is not really in the pic for V, but I think she's realized that for a while. I also hate when I choose Vanessa Carlton radio on Pandora artists like Avril Lavigne come up.
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: fantastical on October 15, 2015, 11:27:34 am
^I totally agree. I'm also still unsure why White Houses didn't do as well as I believe it should have. Perhaps because MTV banned the vid and TRL was the way for people to experience new music? In 2003/04 iTunes existed, but wasn't huge until like 2005 or so. I still remember the first time I heard WH. It was on the radio and I was struck by it. I was only 14 at the time, but I could still relate to it even then. And now at 25 it's still my most played song ever. It means so much to me and has helped me through any bad time in my life with friends or boyfriends.

I think Vanessa came out at a great time, but her singles did fit into a certain niche. Besides WH and WTS I think that Harmonium was too "dark" for the general public that listened to the radio at the time. I actually think Harmonium could be really successful if released now. I will always cherish Heroes and I cannot for the life of me not understand why Hands and The One and Fools Like Me didn't get more (if any) airplay. Maybe a generic Top 40 station wouldn't, but there are a ton of stations that would.

I think commercial success is not really in the pic for V, but I think she's realized that for a while. I also hate when I choose Vanessa Carlton radio on Pandora artists like Avril Lavigne come up.

If they would have released Private Radio as the first single of off Harmonium as originally planned we wouldn't be where we are right now with her career. In other words, that song would have catched on and the whole era would have turned out different and could have been a success.

The singles should have gone like this;

1. Private Radio

2. White Houses (re-recording the 'blood' part for radio and music video)

3. Who's to Say!!

Or release Who's to Say as the second single and White Houses as third.


(4. A toss up between San Francisco and Afterglow as the final single.)
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: Arwen on October 15, 2015, 01:00:12 pm
New interview and pics up on Ladygunn!

(https://i.gyazo.com/1100d214b69aacf49e9dc2481f747dbf.png)

http://ladygunn.com/music/vanessa-carlton
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: Alex0821 on October 15, 2015, 01:41:45 pm
New interview and pics up on Ladygunn!

(https://i.gyazo.com/1100d214b69aacf49e9dc2481f747dbf.png)

http://ladygunn.com/music/vanessa-carlton

Great interview, and the photos are spectacular!

Love this one:

(http://ladygunn.com/files/2015/10/LADYGUNN-Ruby_June_Vanessa_Carlton.jpg)
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: cassiemoy on October 15, 2015, 03:01:48 pm
New interview and pics up on Ladygunn!

(https://i.gyazo.com/1100d214b69aacf49e9dc2481f747dbf.png)

http://ladygunn.com/music/vanessa-carlton

gaaaasp. these are gorgeous!!
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: coldyoungheart on October 15, 2015, 04:12:33 pm
Great interview, and AMAZING photoshoot!
Title: Re:
Post by: Ghisy on October 16, 2015, 08:06:38 am
"Liberman" is now streaming on SoundCloud! :)

http://www.ew.com/article/2015/10/16/vanessa-carlton-liberman-album-stream?hootPostID=f4e8096cc5b7eaef7eefffa67487cd19

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Title: Re:
Post by: Alex0821 on October 16, 2015, 08:27:51 am
"Liberman" is now streaming on SoundCloud! :)

http://www.ew.com/article/2015/10/16/vanessa-carlton-liberman-album-stream?hootPostID=f4e8096cc5b7eaef7eefffa67487cd19

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You just made my day!!!
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: Pushglow on October 16, 2015, 10:10:11 am
This is it! 8)

Edit :
Wait what? Why aren't they already 100 posts after mine, the hype has really decreased the past couple of weeks. Well, it's obvious because we already had half the studio songs and heard the other half in live...

Here are some of my highlights :
- Operator / Moneymaker : my favorite. It's me or this song almost didn't make it before the album got delayed? It would have been a shame to not release it (Hello Best Behavior!).
- House Of Seven Swords : Nice track. Very haunting with the long outro.
- Nothing Where Something Used To Be : in my opinion, this song sounded like a filler when I listened to the live version. I was wrong, this song is superb. Kinda Coldplay-ish in some parts.
- Matter of Time : yeah, that's the filler for me. Not bad, but no piano so I will often skip it
- Unlock the Lock : this track sounds like it was made during the Harmonium era, but was then remastered for the Liberman vibe.
- River : loved the live version, kinda disappointed with the studio arrangement. I will wait for the studio live version.
- Ascension : Well... it's an outro song like In The End. I probably won't listen it too much.
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: AG. on October 17, 2015, 12:16:57 am
Is it just me waiting for the official release date? Somehow I can't make myself listen to the song just yet, I've exercise a lot of self restraint in not listening to the majority of the live recordings, just so I could hopefully avoid falling in love with them and then being disappointed/feel differently about the studio versions.

The only official releases I've listened to are the songs on Blue Pool, and although it doesn't seem to have gotten glowing reviews as of yet, I'm most excited for A Matter of Time (possibly because I love John's music and can't wait to hear his contribution on the album)

Expect a full and gushing review in a few days from me! Until then, can't wait to hear more of your opinions, guys!!
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: Alex0821 on October 17, 2015, 03:22:50 am
"House of Seven Swords" has been in my head literally since I listened to it yesterday haha. the way she sings "that's the way it is, looove" is very pretty and kind of chilling. It's hard to explain. It's definitely my favorite of the songs we hadn't already heard.
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: [sobriquet] on October 17, 2015, 07:59:58 am
This is it! 8)

Edit :
Wait what? Why aren't they already 100 posts after mine, the hype has really decreased the past couple of weeks. Well, it's obvious because we already had half the studio songs and heard the other half in live...

Here are some of my highlights :
- Operator / Moneymaker : my favorite. It's me or this song almost didn't make it before the album got delayed? It would have been a shame to not release it (Hello Best Behavior!).
- House Of Seven Swords : Nice track. Very haunting with the long outro.
- Nothing Where Something Used To Be : in my opinion, this song sounded like a filler when I listened to the live version. I was wrong, this song is superb. Kinda Coldplay-ish in some parts.
- Matter of Time : yeah, that's the filler for me. Not bad, but no piano so I will often skip it
- Unlock the Lock : this track sounds like it was made during the Harmonium era, but was then remastered for the Liberman vibe.
- River : loved the live version, kinda disappointed with the studio arrangement. I will wait for the studio live version.
- Ascension : Well... it's an outro song like In The End. I probably won't listen it too much.

I think Matter of Time isn't supposed to be a filler, but more of a transition. But then, after it was Unlock the Lock, which is more close sonically to the first half of the record (Take It Easy up to Nothing Where Something Used to Be). Actually, I believe that if Unlock the Lock was moved to the first half and Matter of Time, River, (House of Seven Swords), Ascension followed one another, the transition would have been smooth.

But then, I personally wish that You Heart made it to the record, as to provide a sort of accompanying piece to Matter of Time in the guitar-based songs.

But then, I love Liberman, every single track from it. It does take me to another world.

EDIT: And how I love River. The slow pacing at the beginning reminds of an idyllic day, where you walk beside the river, 8-bit video style. The grandness of the sound later on just reminds me of overflowing, until it ends with the quiet end, as if the river finally goes back to its normal level.
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: Rabbits_on_the_run on October 17, 2015, 08:57:58 am
Since the record will be released on friday, I'm trying to resist listening to it until then. Not sure if I'm gonna succeed though ;)
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: MrMoon on October 17, 2015, 09:50:54 am
House of Seven Swords = OMG
Title: Re:
Post by: -Nessaholista- on October 17, 2015, 09:54:40 am
"Liberman" is now streaming on SoundCloud! :)

http://www.ew.com/article/2015/10/16/vanessa-carlton-liberman-album-stream?hootPostID=f4e8096cc5b7eaef7eefffa67487cd19

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Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: lavender skies on October 17, 2015, 03:33:47 pm
OMG at Matter of Time. Listened to it all day today. It's so beautiful. I hadn't listened to a live version before. V is so right--this is such a happy album to listen to. I'm in love.
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: Star7 on October 17, 2015, 05:31:29 pm
Omg I love it so much!! I seriously was just thinking I couldnt wait for the release and then this! Usually I would wait, but I really needed this today :)))
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: MrMoon on October 17, 2015, 10:30:47 pm
usually there's one or two songs on her albums that i can't get into, but every track here is stellar!
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: nutnlp on October 17, 2015, 11:21:02 pm
It's strange....there's tons of stuff that I liked better live (Take It Easy's old "starry" sound) or maybe just got used to..so I was kind of nervous to hear the studio versions of some of the other songs but I am impressed and very happy.  Matter of Time has never been a favorite of mine but it's absolutely beautiful on the album.  And HOUSE OF SEVEN SWORDS has me speechless.  I guess it's easy to get so stuck on the youtube and live versions we've known for like 2 years now but this is a great set of songs from VC.  I am very happy and can't wait for the CD on Friday.

Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: coldyoungheart on October 18, 2015, 06:16:45 am
Of course the album has to become available when I'm in a place where I'm almost never left alone and the wifi is the woooorrrrrssst. Being the dedicated Nessaholic that I am though, I didn't give up and I was finally able to listen to the album last night.

Liberman is a freaking masterpiece. I honestly can't decide if it tops Rabbits or not, but they're both pretty different so I'm not sure I can really compare my love for both of them. Vanessa definitely succeeded in creating the 'dream-like' sound that she was talking about. The album is so beautiful and peaceful and smooth and dreamy and oh-so lovely.

My thoughts on each song(sorry - I had to gush about this album SOMEWHERE):

Take it Easy: Although the live version will always have a super special place in my heart(and I still listen to it from time to time), the studio version has really grown on me and I adore it. A great choice for the first track.

Willows: Lovely.

House of Seven Swords: Wowowoow. Magic. Vanessa sounds like an angel on this track. Also, it's really interesting to see how much the sound has evolved from the demo(which I also adore - it's so trippy).

Operator: I'm so happy that this track ended up on the record! Absolutely in love with this song.

Blue Pool: Lush and dreamy. Love the piano on this one.

Nothing Where Something Used To Be: I know some people are unhappy with the studio version, but I'm in love with it.

Matter of Time: Wasn't the biggest fan of the live version, but I'm very impressed with the studio version. It's going to win me over in a few listens.

Unlock the Lock: I adore this track. I love the piano melodies.

River: I have to admit that I wasn't the biggest fan of the live version, but the album version is great!

Ascension: Just like In the End, I'm going to have to listen to this one a few times before my appreciation for it really grows.

The wait for Liberman was so worth it. I'm so happy with the result! I really can't wait to take long walks with this album.
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: Young Teacher Heart on October 18, 2015, 02:08:16 pm
I am going to do a lengthier review after it's official release, but I just wanted to say one thing in particular about this wonderful work known as Liberman.

I feel as if Liberman is all about ascending life by unlocking the lock to the river of true happiness that is always there waiting for us.
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: Young Teacher Heart on October 18, 2015, 02:15:35 pm
Of course the album has to become available when I'm in a place where I'm almost never left alone and the wifi is the woooorrrrrssst. Being the dedicated Nessaholic that I am though, I didn't give up and I was finally able to listen to the album last night.

Liberman is a freaking masterpiece. I honestly can't decide if it tops Rabbits or not, but they're both pretty different so I'm not sure I can really compare my love for both of them. Vanessa definitely succeeded in creating the 'dream-like' sound that she was talking about. The album is so beautiful and peaceful and smooth and dreamy and oh-so lovely.

My thoughts on each song(sorry - I had to gush about this album SOMEWHERE):

Take it Easy: Although the live version will always have a super special place in my heart(and I still listen to it from time to time), the studio version has really grown on me and I adore it. A great choice for the first track.
 

Willows: Lovely.

House of Seven Swords: Wowowoow. Magic. Vanessa sounds like an angel on this track. Also, it's really interesting to see how much the sound has evolved from the demo(which I also adore - it's so trippy).

Operator: I'm so happy that this track ended up on the record! Absolutely in love with this song.

Blue Pool: Lush and dreamy. Love the piano on this one.

Nothing Where Something Used To Be: I know some people are unhappy with the studio version, but I'm in love with it.

Matter of Time: Wasn't the biggest fan of the live version, but I'm very impressed with the studio version. It's going to win me over in a few listens.

Unlock the Lock: I adore this track. I love the piano melodies.

River: I have to admit that I wasn't the biggest fan of the live version, but the album version is great!

Ascension: Just like In the End, I'm going to have to listen to this one a few times before my appreciation for it really grows.

The wait for Liberman was so worth it. I'm so happy with the result! I really can't wait to take long walks with this album.

I, too, am hesitating whether or not I prefer Rabbits on the Run or Liberman. I do not think that it's possible to decide this because both albums are perfect and both have different purposes. I think that they work well together. Rabbits on the Run is about the fleeing time and the circular nature of life while Liberman is about finding different ways to Unlock the Lock to the River of true happiness that exists within us to the point of euphoric Ascension.
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: me and my piano---tim on October 18, 2015, 04:44:17 pm
I'm so obsessed with this album. I believe this is the only VC album I've loved immediately after the first listen. What also stands out is that it seems to be V's first "true" album, in the sense that here we have a complete body of work, of distinctive cohesiveness. I feel an elevated sense of Vanessa's mastery of her craft, a sense of wonder at how she was able to create such a beautiful work of art out of 10 smaller works of art, all of which beg to be replayed multiple times and appear to have been perfected to their finest details.

I think this album is going to be incredibly successful and I'm so happy for V! She's arrived!
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: Alex0821 on October 18, 2015, 05:16:42 pm
Yeah it'll be hard for me to decide between Rabbits and Liberman, as well. I loved almost all of the songs on ROTR, but I was disappointed with the minimalistic production of many of them (keeping in mind this was the follow up to Heroes & Thieves, back when her production was still very "pop" which is more my style). So that kind of hurt my view of ROTR, though again I loved the songs. Liberman has a better production, I believe, though there are more individual songs I'm kind of lukewarm about. But I've only listened to some of them once, so when the album comes out I'll really give it all a full listen and do a track-by-track review as well :)
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: me and my piano---tim on October 18, 2015, 05:28:39 pm
Liberman has a better production, I believe, though there are more individual songs I'm kind of lukewarm about. But I've only listened to some of them once, so when the album comes out I'll really give it all a full listen and do a track-by-track review as well :)

May I ask which ones you are lukewarm about?

And if so, which ones are you lukewarm about?  :P
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: lavender skies on October 19, 2015, 01:57:54 pm
This album is amazing. I wrote a week ago how I wasn't excited for it, but now I can't stop listening. It's so beautiful and so happy and I think it's the best work she's ever done. I can't wait to see her on Halloween and this album is everything I need right now. You can tell how happy she is with John and bb Syd and it's so great to see it in her work. I love it.
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: me and my piano---tim on October 19, 2015, 02:48:13 pm
This album is amazing. I wrote a week ago how I wasn't excited for it, but now I can't stop listening. It's so beautiful and so happy and I think it's the best work she's ever done. I can't wait to see her on Halloween and this album is everything I need right now. You can tell how happy she is with John and bb Syd and it's so great to see it in her work. I love it.

Yeah you can totally catch her mom vibes coming through! And agreed..her best work. Vocally, lyrically, musically... She has soared with this album. Its beauty is almost hard to believe!
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: sarab on October 19, 2015, 04:23:54 pm
I remember Starbucks did this four years ago when Rabbits was about to come out


right, I wonder what other songs are on that playlist other than Blue Pool.

I remember sitting in starbucks for hours just to see if her songs came on.  I first heard Dear California this way.
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: Alex0821 on October 19, 2015, 04:40:13 pm
Liberman has a better production, I believe, though there are more individual songs I'm kind of lukewarm about. But I've only listened to some of them once, so when the album comes out I'll really give it all a full listen and do a track-by-track review as well :)

May I ask which ones you are lukewarm about?

And if so, which ones are you lukewarm about?  :P

Basically all the new ones haha. "Unlock the Lock," "Matter of Time," "River," "Ascension." I also don't love "Take it Easy," mostly because the first entire minute is nothing haha.

I'm sure they'll grow on me with time, but I loved "Young Heart," "Willows," and the living room session of "NWSUTB" after just one listen.

Edit: I'm listening to "Unlock the Lock" a second time, and the harmonies in the chorus are SO spectacular, I might take it off the lukewarm list. Haha!
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: me and my piano---tim on October 19, 2015, 10:01:57 pm
Liberman has a better production, I believe, though there are more individual songs I'm kind of lukewarm about. But I've only listened to some of them once, so when the album comes out I'll really give it all a full listen and do a track-by-track review as well :)

May I ask which ones you are lukewarm about?

And if so, which ones are you lukewarm about?  :P

Basically all the new ones haha. "Unlock the Lock," "Matter of Time," "River," "Ascension." I also don't love "Take it Easy," mostly because the first entire minute is nothing haha.

I'm sure they'll grow on me with time, but I loved "Young Heart," "Willows," and the living room session of "NWSUTB" after just one listen.

Edit: I'm listening to "Unlock the Lock" a second time, and the harmonies in the chorus are SO spectacular, I might take it off the lukewarm list. Haha!

what! matter of time and river are two of my favorites! willows is also grand. im surprised you don't like the intro to take it easy -- though i will say the first time i heard that song i was a bit disappointed about how the intro faded when vanessa's vocal started. ascension i also find fascinating because the chords she uses seem to allow for multiple melodic interpretations, and they play with my ears.

river, i think, is my current favorite. the song sounds like a river to me.. starting of flowing serenely, and then gaining rapids in the chorus, then mellowing out again and winding a bit...
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: coyote_revolver on October 20, 2015, 01:29:36 pm
The album is available for online STREAMING!
http://www.ew.com/article/2015/10/16/vanessa-carlton-liberman-album-stream

I'll probably listen to it since I plan to order a physical copy and it'll take a while to arrive to my country...
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: MrMoon on October 20, 2015, 01:45:35 pm
The album is available for online STREAMING!
http://www.ew.com/article/2015/10/16/vanessa-carlton-liberman-album-stream

I'll probably listen to it since I plan to order a physical copy and it'll take a while to arrive to my country...

we've all been listening from that source =P
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: me and my piano---tim on October 20, 2015, 02:23:58 pm
Has anybody noticed how hard it is to find an "official" review of the album? I'm not sure if there is some intentional timing behind this, or if it's a red flag that this album is getting no critical attention. But usually new album reviews are posted in advance of the actual release date? Maybe I have not been keeping up with the music industry. But, for instance, Joanna Newsom is releasing an album on the 23rd as well, and yet it is easy to find 10 reviews for hers...

Why nothing for V? Seems suspicious.
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: coyote_revolver on October 20, 2015, 02:55:54 pm
The album is available for online STREAMING!
http://www.ew.com/article/2015/10/16/vanessa-carlton-liberman-album-stream

I'll probably listen to it since I plan to order a physical copy and it'll take a while to arrive to my country...

we've all been listening from that source =P

LOL sorry, sometimes is hard to keep up with the convo on these threads
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: nutnlp on October 20, 2015, 08:33:30 pm
She's a very indie release at this point and it's not like Billboard and Rollingstone have her on high priority to review.  I'm sure BB will post a review on Friday.  I was hoping for some TV appearances but that doesn't look like it's going to happen with her in Japan until the albums out and then a tour right after she gets back.  Maybe early next year when she announces the other dates?
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: me and my piano---tim on October 20, 2015, 11:32:52 pm
Pitchfork just posted a review!

http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/21173-liberman/ (http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/21173-liberman/)

Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: darren1711 on October 21, 2015, 02:38:53 am
Pitchfork just posted a review!

http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/21173-liberman/ (http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/21173-liberman/)



Yay!! Good one to. The album seems to be getting a bit of attention now, which is encouraging. Although it still cracks me up that seemingly everyone of them is going to reference ATM in the first paragraph.
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: Alex0821 on October 21, 2015, 03:33:16 am
Great Pitchfork writeup. I love what he says about Vanessa's confidence in this album. She comes off as very worldly, I think. Particularly in songs "Blue Pool" where she portrays this older washed-up celebrity (that's the story, right?), "Take it Easy" and "House of Seven Swords" where she seems to be giving advice to someone younger about how the world works, and "Operator" where she portrays an older woman seducing a younger man. Even "NWSUTB" approaches a breakup with more wisdom than most songs do. If you want to call me, just do it. That's actually very adult.

We've all been calling Liberman "mature" and I was never really sure why, but this review made me think about how true that really is.
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: cassiemoy on October 21, 2015, 06:30:14 am
Pitchfork just posted a review!

http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/21173-liberman/ (http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/21173-liberman/)



from pitchfork? that's a fantastic review :) am delighted. i think we should see these rolling in soon
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: darren1711 on October 21, 2015, 10:51:05 am
Great Pitchfork writeup. I love what he says about Vanessa's confidence in this album. She comes off as very worldly, I think. Particularly in songs "Blue Pool" where she portrays this older washed-up celebrity (that's the story, right?), "Take it Easy" and "House of Seven Swords" where she seems to be giving advice to someone younger about how the world works, and "Operator" where she portrays an older woman seducing a younger man. Even "NWSUTB" approaches a breakup with more wisdom than most songs do. If you want to call me, just do it. That's actually very adult.

We've all been calling Liberman "mature" and I was never really sure why, but this review made me think about how true that really is.

Very true, the review was really smart. I think you've really hit the nail on the head with your analysis here. It's definitely her most mature record. I think the improvements in her vocals really help here also. Her voice really sells the wisdom and one of the albums biggest strengths is how well she is able to use her voice as an instrument now.
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: me and my piano---tim on October 21, 2015, 02:11:33 pm
Pitchfork just posted a review!

http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/21173-liberman/ (http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/21173-liberman/)



from pitchfork? that's a fantastic review :) am delighted. i think we should see these rolling in soon

Amazing, right? This is huge. It looks like this is the first-ever VC album reviewed by Pitchfork, and the author himself, Matthew Schnipper, said on twitter that he was

Quote
Super happy to have reviewed the excellent new @VanessaCarlton album!!!! First time I ever reviewed an album tbh!!!!

There are murmurings about a "Pitchfork Effect" -- here's hoping V gets a nice little boost.  ;D




Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: me and my piano---tim on October 21, 2015, 02:21:07 pm
Great Pitchfork writeup. I love what he says about Vanessa's confidence in this album. She comes off as very worldly, I think. Particularly in songs "Blue Pool" where she portrays this older washed-up celebrity (that's the story, right?), "Take it Easy" and "House of Seven Swords" where she seems to be giving advice to someone younger about how the world works, and "Operator" where she portrays an older woman seducing a younger man. Even "NWSUTB" approaches a breakup with more wisdom than most songs do. If you want to call me, just do it. That's actually very adult.

We've all been calling Liberman "mature" and I was never really sure why, but this review made me think about how true that really is.

Very true, the review was really smart. I think you've really hit the nail on the head with your analysis here. It's definitely her most mature record. I think the improvements in her vocals really help here also. Her voice really sells the wisdom and one of the albums biggest strengths is how well she is able to use her voice as an instrument now.

For sure. Her voice really does "sell the wisdom" this time around. Before this album, I thought her voice was her biggest weakness. Now it seems like her biggest strength, like she's not leaning as much on her piano. And yet she still has some of her best piano work in this album
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: joey on October 21, 2015, 04:02:33 pm
The production on this album is amazing. It's like a Hear the Bells aesthetic like HTB was the easel and she painted this album using those colors.

All the songs are listenable and some points in the production make you wanna close your eyes and just take in the moment.

I'm so proud of her.  :'(
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: Arwen on October 22, 2015, 08:34:51 am
Liberman just came express mail!! The booklet picture is beautiful!
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: Rabbits_on_the_run on October 22, 2015, 10:30:48 am
Wow. Can't wait. Did you get it from the official store?
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: coldyoungheart on October 22, 2015, 10:31:30 am
That's awesome! :)

Could you please share the booklet pic? I'm on vacation right now, so I won't get my copy until I get home in November.
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: AG. on October 22, 2015, 12:38:11 pm
Here's a new short interview with some absolutely beautiful pictures:

https://www.minnetonkamoccasin.com/blog/back-roads-backstage-with-vanessa-carlton/?utm_source=vanessa%20carlton%20&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=Back%20Roads%20and%20Backstage

and also the Blue Pool live video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4ykTW9Cjdw
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: Jophess on October 22, 2015, 01:16:58 pm
Listening to Liberman now and loving it!
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Post by: lavender skies on October 22, 2015, 02:12:24 pm
I listened to Liberman walking to the laundromat with fall leaves falling and then a few hours later in the bath tub. It made me so happy. Commercial success aside I hope Vanessa knows how much this album means to at least one person.
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: Arwen on October 22, 2015, 04:16:39 pm
Wow. Can't wait. Did you get it from the official store?

Yes, I got it from Vanessa's store. This pic isn't mine, but here's the booklet photo:
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10205079841620733&set=pcb.1028882520489797&type=3&theater

Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: Alex0821 on October 22, 2015, 06:48:27 pm
Great writeup in Glide: http://www.glidemagazine.com/150602/vanessa-carlton-liberman-album-review/

The money quote: "While still sweet, soft and angelic, her vocals also sound notably stronger and more seasoned, and she plays with them in enchanting ways. She sounds confident and collected, with polished and sophisticated harmonies that hit all the rights notes at the right times. Her songs are still full of catchy pop hooks, but they’re more subdued and controlled. The instrumentals are lush, but not melodramatic or overly orchestral, as with much of Carlton’s earlier stuff."

I think that sums up perfectly what a lot of us really like about Liberman.
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: cassiemoy on October 22, 2015, 07:09:04 pm
and it's up on itunes!

and a boston globe review: https://www.bostonglobe.com/arts/music/2015/10/22/album-review-vanessa-carlton-liberman/X2wHfk6mcG7ag93vfkczNJ/story.html
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: MrMoon on October 22, 2015, 07:57:20 pm
strings on the living room version of willows! <3
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: Martin. on October 23, 2015, 02:35:58 am
The album is beautiful. Both of my copies arrived. I'm so glad the deluxe version exists. Songs like "River" and "Nothing Where Something Used To Be" are better suited to the piano and vocal format, IMO. Stunning.

I agree with the reviews too - you can totally hear the confidence in her voice. She's using it as an instrument now.
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: coldyoungheart on October 23, 2015, 06:53:10 am
Wow. Can't wait. Did you get it from the official store?

Yes, I got it from Vanessa's store. This pic isn't mine, but here's the booklet photo:
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10205079841620733&set=pcb.1028882520489797&type=3&theater



The link doesn't work for me, but it's ok! Thanks anyways! :) I'll wait until I get home.
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Post by: joey on October 23, 2015, 07:29:55 am
OK. So... I'm not the only person who pre-ordered who hasn't received any update on the status of the shipment or anything, right?
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Post by: Rabbits_on_the_run on October 23, 2015, 08:06:06 am
I didn't get any update or anything BUT the CD was delivered by FedEx this morning (and I'm in Switzerland). Such a great and unexpected surprise. The record is amazing. Production, songwriting, Vanessa's voice... It's perfect. Thank you Vanessa for another masterpiece. The front picture of the booklet with Sid is beautiful! I also love the fact that she names Victor in her thank you list.
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: Rabbits_on_the_run on October 23, 2015, 08:07:00 am
The production on this album is amazing. It's like a Hear the Bells aesthetic like HTB was the easel and she painted this album using those colors.

All the songs are listenable and some points in the production make you wanna close your eyes and just take in the moment
.

I'm so proud of her.  :'(

Yes. Exactly!!!
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: Arwen on October 23, 2015, 09:07:16 am
Wow. Can't wait. Did you get it from the official store?

Yes, I got it from Vanessa's store. This pic isn't mine, but here's the booklet photo:
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10205079841620733&set=pcb.1028882520489797&type=3&theater



The link doesn't work for me, but it's ok! Thanks anyways! :) I'll wait until I get home.

Oh no! Here you go:

(https://i.gyazo.com/9cd165a85ac91d3f3d36161071bbb1c0.png)
(from the phantom friends FB group)
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: sarab on October 23, 2015, 09:17:05 am
I'm going to write my quick thing before reading anyone else's stuff so if I repeat stuff, sorry!

First off when I opened my package I was brought to tears.  I am so ecstatic and proud that Vanessa has shared such an intimate moment of motherhood with us.  I had always wondered if she'd ever step up to the plate like some celebs (namely Alyssa Malano) and post a breastfeeding pic on instagram or twitter.  I figured she would never, being she's so private in the first place and this can be a hot button issue (don't get me started on why it shouldn't be, that's a whole other thread for a whole different website).  So when I opened my package to see her in such a gorgeous snapshot on the lyric book cover... I was very moved, and every time I think about it I am moved.  As a mother, a nurse, and a lactation consultant I just couldn't be more proud to be a fan of hers.
On to the music!
I had actually given in and listened to the album stream the other night at work.  we were having a craptastick night and I just needed it to calm me down, and it did.  It brought me in to a zone where I could just relax and forget about all the stuff going on around me.  Now that I've got the album it will be on repeat (after nap time of course).
House of Seven swords was not one of my favorites I had heard live, but this album version is fantastic.  I'm so glad the production of unlock the lock is so minimal, that was my favorite live.  operator is so good.  it's done in a pop way but an alternative pop way.  it actually reminds me a lot of the music she was listening to shortly after rabbits came out .. she posted songs that she liked almost daily back then and I downloaded a bunch of them. so this album feels to me almost like i'm listening to her play list.  lyrics are inspiring, and build upon themselves as always.  I had worried about all the lyrical repetitiveness in the songs I had heard live but it works in the studio versions.  I have nothing technical to add but I am very impressed by this album, I like the way it's been done.  I'm glad we have the live versions of most of the songs, but I think I'll be listening mostly to the studio versions!  Each version of the song is like it's own song anyway.. related but not exactly the same.  I think I remember someone saying that nothing where something used to be sounds more hopeful on the studio version, and more remorseful and sad for the live version, and I totally get that now that I've listened to the studio one.  ok that's all I have to add!
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: Ghisy on October 23, 2015, 09:28:24 am
I didn't get any update or anything BUT the CD was delivered by FedEx this morning (and I'm in Switzerland). Such a great and unexpected surprise. The record is amazing. Production, songwriting, Vanessa's voice... It's perfect. Thank you Vanessa for another masterpiece. The front picture of the booklet with Sid is beautiful! I also love the fact that she names Victor in her thank you list.

I had a DHL notification a couple of days ago and both the regular & deluxe edition arrived today in my mailbox! One was sent through DHL and the other by FedEx. Go figure. Kudos to Dine Alone Records for upgrading shipping so overseas fans can also get it on release day. It's a small gesture but much appreciated!

About the album, I'm in love. That sums it up.
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: joey on October 23, 2015, 11:17:33 am
OK. From which blessed orgasm filled bowels of this planet was that studio version of HOSS made?

I. AM. DEAD.

It's like... It's just an acoustic version. No biggie right? She can't have done anythi... What. The. What?

Also, does anyone hear a Stevie-esque voice in that version?
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: coldyoungheart on October 23, 2015, 11:50:20 am
Wow. Can't wait. Did you get it from the official store?

Yes, I got it from Vanessa's store. This pic isn't mine, but here's the booklet photo:
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10205079841620733&set=pcb.1028882520489797&type=3&theater



The link doesn't work for me, but it's ok! Thanks anyways! :) I'll wait until I get home.

Oh no! Here you go:

(https://i.gyazo.com/9cd165a85ac91d3f3d36161071bbb1c0.png)
(from the phantom friends FB group)

Wowowoow! Gorgeous :).

Thanks!
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: nutnlp on October 23, 2015, 01:08:31 pm
Regretting not pre-prdering since Best Buy, Target or Walmart dont have the CD in stores..tried all 3 today.  Here I come Amazon haha
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: lavender skies on October 24, 2015, 03:48:07 am
Am slightly devastated that A Matter of Time doesn't have a living room session as it's my favorite song from the album.
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: cassiemoy on October 24, 2015, 06:26:52 am
OK. From which blessed orgasm filled bowels of this planet was that studio version of HOSS made?

i snorted

(i agree 1000%)
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: Alex0821 on October 24, 2015, 09:53:36 am
Here's my (extremely long-winded) track-by-track review of "Liberman"!

Take it Easy – I think this song does a fantastic job of establishing a lot of the themes and concepts for the album: the dreamy atmosphere, instrumentation not necessarily led by piano, finding comfort in chaos, aging and dying (yes, I actually think a lot of this album has to do with getting older and becoming closer to death). I love how the song is an allusion to “The Last Unicorn” – I’ve never seen it before, but I love when she references the works of others, it makes her lyrics really rich. I still think the intro and outro are way too long. And how is that not a trumpet?? 8/10

Willows – A perfect song, as far as I’m concerned. I love how the instrumental and the lyrics give me these ‘hearty pioneer’ vibes: “Go build a cabin, find land and a tree… on your knees planting seeds” etc. I love how the instrumental rises and falls at all the right moments, and the piano and guitar complement one another so well on this track. The harmonies in the last chorus are phenomenal. I really, really like this song. 10/10

House of Seven Swords – I’m disappointed this song didn’t get a better instrumental. I mean, it barely has one. The bridge would have been a perfect place for the music to swell bigger than it does. I also wish the lyrics had more Tarot references, since that’s a really interesting concept for a song. But I like how she comes off as this older, worldly woman explaining how the world works to a younger listener. There are some very pretty harmonies, as well. 7/10

Operator – If you told me this song was an outtake from “Harmonium,” I’d believe you. It would fit perfectly alongside similarly earnest tracks like “Private Radio” and “Papa.” I didn’t love the living room session of this song when we got it with “Blue Pool EP,” but the studio version is quite good. I really like how it’s a sort of Mrs. Robinson-esque story about an older woman seducing a younger man. I definitely think this was the right choice for a single, though I thought the music video didn’t tell the story as well as it could have. 9/10

Blue Pool – Another darn-near-perfect song. I love when Vanessa writes in 3/4 time. I really dig the Old Hollywood feel of the song, and how it tells the story quite literally, which doesn’t work for every song. I don’t always like long outros, but “Blue Pool”s is so pretty that I don’t mind. I think this is the song I’m most looking forward to learning how to play on the piano. 10/10

Nothing Where Something Used to Be – As I’ve said before, I don’t like the studio version as much as I like the living room session. However, the “hoos” in the outro are really haunting, and I really like the punctuated strumming of the guitar. The lyrics denote a level of maturity and introspection towards a breakup that most songs don’t have, and this perfectly illustrates the “grownup” nature of the whole album. 8/10

Matter of Time – This song reminds me so much of “Get Good” for some reason. It’s probably the guitar and the melody of the verses. The whole song is very simply stated, but the minimalism works really well here (it did not in “House of Seven Swords”). Again, the harmonies are ace. 8/10

Unlock the Lock – I never liked the live performances of this song, but the studio version works on a whole other level. The harmonies of the chorus hit my ear just right, and the staccato strings (is that cello, or more guitar?) punctuate the beat well. The music of the bridge grows into the chorus in a way that “House of Seven Swords” should have. 8/10

River – I said a few days ago that I didn’t like this song, and I should be roundly punished for that because it’s become one of my favorites after a second listen. I think this song would have been right at home in “Rabbits on the Run,” perhaps more than any other song on this album. I can’t quite articulate what I like about this song. I like the sustained notes of the chorus, and the instrumental has some interesting things going on. 9/10

Ascension – I really like the piano chords, which remind me of “The Marching Line.” The whole song sounds like coming out of a dream, making it the perfect ending to this album. Though after all the references to aging, death, being lost and similarly morose topics throughout the album, I wonder if “Ascension” is instead about rising up to heaven and “waking up” from the mortal experience. Chilling to think about, but ultimately not a very good song in its own right. 6/10

In Conclusion – I ended up liking “Liberman” a lot more than I thought I would. In fact, it is likely my favorite album of hers, with the possible exception of “Heroes and Thieves.” I usually like a more typical pop production in the music I listen to (“Heroes” being a perfect example of that), so “Liberman” is very different from what I usually enjoy. But in standard Vanessa fashion, the lyrics are so beautiful, her voice so pitch-perfect, and the melodies so lovely that I don’t really miss the production except in a few of the songs that could have benefited from a stronger production. I really like some of the themes that run throughout the music, such as aging and finding solace in a chaotic world, and I love how so much of it is in second person, like she is singing to the listener or like we are a character in each story. I feel like there’s still a lot worth exploring here, and I’ve only just begun listening to the living room sessions, so I’ll look forward to enjoying “Liberman” for many months to come. 9/10
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: [sobriquet] on October 24, 2015, 11:02:48 am
I really love the record, although whenever I listen to the whole thing, I rearrange the songs according to my own preference. IDK, anyone might want to give it a try as well?

[Studio Versions]
Take It Easy
Operator
Willows
Blue Pool
I'll Wait For You (yes, I include this one)
Young Heart (yes, this one too)
Matter of Time
House of Seven Swords
Unlock the Lock
Nothing Where Something Used to Be
River
Ascension

[Stripped Versions]
House of Seven Swords
Take It Easy
Unlock the Lock
Operator
Willows
Blue Pool
River
Nothing Where Something Used to Be

I actually plan to insert some songs in RoTR, but oh well. This is a new project altogether.
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: lavender skies on October 24, 2015, 03:47:31 pm
While I love some songs on rabbits, it was always my least favorite album--proably because it was so different than her previous work. Her old versions of FWF were my favorite and I didn't like the dreamy vibe of this. But his album. It's perfect. I know sales wise it's not expected for much but if V still lurks around here I hope she knows what a dream record this is. It's the perfect time for it and it's hauntingly beautiful. My bro works for buzzfeed and I think I convinced him to do a review of the album for some extra publicity.
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: sarab on October 25, 2015, 03:34:19 pm
While I love some songs on rabbits, it was always my least favorite album--proably because it was so different than her previous work. Her old versions of FWF were my favorite and I didn't like the dreamy vibe of this. But his album. It's perfect. I know sales wise it's not expected for much but if V still lurks around here I hope she knows what a dream record this is. It's the perfect time for it and it's hauntingly beautiful. My bro works for buzzfeed and I think I convinced him to do a review of the album for some extra publicity.

that would be awesome, buzzfeed gets a lot of traffic.. someone did a piece on adele releasing a single on Friday too.  that definitely could have overshadowed Vanessa's release
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: darren1711 on October 26, 2015, 12:36:35 pm
Excellent review from Pop Matters here http://www.popmatters.com/review/vanessa-carlton-liberman/
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: Alex0821 on October 26, 2015, 05:09:09 pm
Excellent review from Pop Matters here http://www.popmatters.com/review/vanessa-carlton-liberman/

Great review! I totally agree that ROTR is only a departure from her past work in terms of the musical production - she's been remarkably consistent in terms of the actual songwriting.

And HAHAHA about Senator Lieberman - I'm from his state and I thought the same thing when I heard the album title for the first time.
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: joey on October 27, 2015, 06:09:50 am
FINALLY GOT THE CD.

Required a bit of running around to the USPS offices yesterday but worth it.

Don't know if anyone noticed that the artwork inside (if you lift the CD) is a replica (of sorts) of the painting (by Vanessa's grandfather) but done by Jo Ratcliffe - the artist who did the album art for ROTR and this album as well.
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: Alex0821 on October 27, 2015, 01:41:45 pm
While I love some songs on rabbits, it was always my least favorite album--proably because it was so different than her previous work. Her old versions of FWF were my favorite and I didn't like the dreamy vibe of this. But his album. It's perfect. I know sales wise it's not expected for much but if V still lurks around here I hope she knows what a dream record this is. It's the perfect time for it and it's hauntingly beautiful. My bro works for buzzfeed and I think I convinced him to do a review of the album for some extra publicity.

Is this it? http://www.buzzfeed.com/mjs538/fyi-this-is-what-vanessa-carlton-is-up-to-these-days#.xg1B0nyzL

I mean it could be a little longer, but I don't think BF is known for its long-form journalism ;)
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: sarab on October 27, 2015, 04:51:50 pm
FINALLY GOT THE CD.

Required a bit of running around to the USPS offices yesterday but worth it.

Don't know if anyone noticed that the artwork inside (if you lift the CD) is a replica (of sorts) of the painting (by Vanessa's grandfather) but done by Jo Ratcliffe - the artist who did the album art for ROTR and this album as well.

yes I did notice that.  also the artwork on her twitter page at one point, not sure if it still is or if you can only see it on computer view.  I remember the colors thinking they were unlike ROTR error colors (dark)
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: _all_is_well_ on November 01, 2015, 12:19:25 pm

Does anyone else think it is odd that Vanessa used the racial slur "g****" in River?

I understand it that does not have the same weight in the USA as it does in Europe, but it is still a racial slur. I find it really odd. Like does she actually just not know? 

I really like River, but every time I hear that lyric I cringe.
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: coldyoungheart on November 01, 2015, 01:55:18 pm

Does anyone else think it is odd that Vanessa used the racial slur "g****" in River?

I understand it that does not have the same weight in the USA as it does in Europe, but it is still a racial slur. I find it really odd. Like does she actually just not know?  

I really like River, but every time I hear that lyric I cringe.

Glad you brought this up, it's important. However, my guess is that she didn't know. Personally, I didn't know it was a slur until I read your comment and I Googled it. I mean, obviously I know about the oppression Romani people suffer in Europe, but in North America(as far as I know), the word 'gypsy' doesn't have the same negative connotation that it has in Europe... yet.
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: Alex0821 on November 01, 2015, 02:10:12 pm

Does anyone else think it is odd that Vanessa used the racial slur "g****" in River?

I understand it that does not have the same weight in the USA as it does in Europe, but it is still a racial slur. I find it really odd. Like does she actually just not know? 

I really like River, but every time I hear that lyric I cringe.

I was wondering if anyone would bring this up. Some people had the same conversation when Lady Gaga came out with a song called "Gypsy" in 2013. You're right, that word doesn't have nearly the weight of other slurs in the US; there aren't nearly as many people here who are bothered by it as who are bothered by the N-word, the F-word, etc. I didn't even know it was a slur until that song came out. I'm sure neither artist meant harm by it (but I understand that's scant comfort).
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: _all_is_well_ on November 01, 2015, 03:08:10 pm

Does anyone else think it is odd that Vanessa used the racial slur "g****" in River?

I understand it that does not have the same weight in the USA as it does in Europe, but it is still a racial slur. I find it really odd. Like does she actually just not know? 

I really like River, but every time I hear that lyric I cringe.

I was wondering if anyone would bring this up. Some people had the same conversation when Lady Gaga came out with a song called "Gypsy" in 2013. You're right, that word doesn't have nearly the weight of other slurs in the US; there aren't nearly as many people here who are bothered by it as who are bothered by the N-word, the F-word, etc. I didn't even know it was a slur until that song came out. I'm sure neither artist meant harm by it (but I understand that's scant comfort).

Yeah, I definitely don't think she meant harm by it. I won't hold it against her. I just hope other people won't catch on to it and make a stink. It is unfortunate that the word is forever immortalized in the studio recording though.

Live, she could easily replace it with some other word if/when she realizes the negative connotations. Maybe "nomad" or something, and it would convey the meaning (I think) she is getting at. The studio version is forever though, which is why I think it is weird no one said anything to her before it got released. I guess both of you that replied are right, and that a lot of people just don't know.

Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: nutnlp on November 01, 2015, 07:59:44 pm
Hilary Duff has a song named Gypsy Woman...if it didn't cause a stink with her, I'm sure it won't with V...I really hadn't thought about it until you mentioned it.   Doesn't Cher have a song that mentions it to?
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: sarab on November 02, 2015, 12:38:50 am
I did not know this.  when I hear it I think: always moving, traveler, wordly, mysterious, beautiful, exotic.  I didn't realize it was something derogatory, I'm sure she didn't either.  

edit: I also think of someone who is more in tune with the earth and the healing/medicine it can provide.  she has that running theme throughout the album of healers/shamans so I think to her, she means it along very positive lines.  I guess ignorance (specifically my own) of an issue doesn't make it a non-issue.  I myself have a positive reaction to the word but I am not European or of that descent that would be offended.  Good to know
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: nutnlp on November 02, 2015, 11:52:25 am
Same here, sarahb....off topic...does anyone know where the album placed on the Billboard 200?
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: Alex0821 on November 03, 2015, 11:31:19 am
Same here, sarahb....off topic...does anyone know where the album placed on the Billboard 200?

It never broke into the top 200.
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: nutnlp on November 03, 2015, 06:42:31 pm
That sucks to hear. It deserves better.
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: cassiemoy on November 05, 2015, 06:19:21 pm
was this posted?

liberman live on radio: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ik0X4bM-v8M

edited to add that skye's harmonization on "nothing where something" is really cute :3
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: coldyoungheart on November 06, 2015, 11:56:17 am
That sucks to hear. It deserves better.

It definitely does deserve better sales wise, but at least it's getting excellent reviews. And anyways, huge sales doesn't seem to be Vanessa's goal. Saw this exchange on Twitter the other day...

(http://i63.tinypic.com/2r46bkg.jpg)
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: coldyoungheart on November 06, 2015, 11:57:54 am
was this posted?

liberman live on radio: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ik0X4bM-v8M

edited to add that skye's harmonization on "nothing where something" is really cute :3

https://soundcloud.com/wfpk/vanessa-carlton-on-wfpks-live-lunch-103015

Here you can listen to the interview as well.
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: [sobriquet] on November 06, 2015, 03:59:49 pm
She may or may not have done a show in Japan.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhGh8CYhx4M
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: joey on November 06, 2015, 06:00:18 pm
She may or may not have done a show in Japan.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhGh8CYhx4M

Found it!

http://www.japanupdate.com/2015/10/vanessa-carlton-to-headline-weekend-kinser-festival/
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: Arwen on November 06, 2015, 06:45:33 pm
She may or may not have done a show in Japan.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhGh8CYhx4M

Found it!

http://www.japanupdate.com/2015/10/vanessa-carlton-to-headline-weekend-kinser-festival/

I was trying to find something from her japan show! Thanks! She looks so majestic with her hair blowing in the wind.


Regarding Liberman, I've been pretty much listening to it nonstop in my car and house since it came out. NWSUTB, HOSS, and TIE are my favorites! It really does feel like a dream and helps me when I'm feeling anxious.

I wonder if she'll ever play more stuff from H&T in future tours? Like Fools Like Me and My Best! Could you imagine those songs played now but re-imagined a bit with her new dreamy sound?

Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: Rabbits_on_the_run on November 07, 2015, 09:52:21 am
That sucks to hear. It deserves better.

It definitely does deserve better sales wise, but at least it's getting excellent reviews. And anyways, huge sales doesn't seem to be Vanessa's goal. Saw this exchange on Twitter the other day...

(http://i63.tinypic.com/2r46bkg.jpg)
LOL you didn't need to hide that person's (your?) username. all it takes is to go on V's twitter to see it haha
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: sarab on November 07, 2015, 11:50:27 am
1-Take it Easy.  Lyric - "too young to let it go"
10- Ascension. Lyric - "I let go - and die"

Growth, maturity, giving over to your higher self.  Letting go of what brings you down in order to ascend to who you are meant to be.
I've thought a bit about the order of the songs, and while they may sound better in a different sequence, the story progresses to ascension. Love, then loss, then love again. True love of another and for yourself.
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: coldyoungheart on November 07, 2015, 01:00:01 pm
That sucks to hear. It deserves better.

It definitely does deserve better sales wise, but at least it's getting excellent reviews. And anyways, huge sales doesn't seem to be Vanessa's goal. Saw this exchange on Twitter the other day...

(http://i63.tinypic.com/2r46bkg.jpg)
LOL you didn't need to hide that person's (your?) username. all it takes is to go on V's twitter to see it haha

No, it's not mine lol. I just blurred it out because I was posting it somewhere where the OP hadn't agreeded to his tweets being posted.
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: Rabbits_on_the_run on November 08, 2015, 03:00:59 am
That sucks to hear. It deserves better.

It definitely does deserve better sales wise, but at least it's getting excellent reviews. And anyways, huge sales doesn't seem to be Vanessa's goal. Saw this exchange on Twitter the other day...

(http://i63.tinypic.com/2r46bkg.jpg)
LOL you didn't need to hide that person's (your?) username. all it takes is to go on V's twitter to see it haha

No, it's not mine lol. I just blurred it out because I was posting it somewhere where the OP hadn't agreeded to his tweets being posted.
Haha okay

Anyways, I'm glad it wasn't made to go mainstream. However I do think "Operator" could have a fair chance to be played on radio and become a minor hit.
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: coldyoungheart on November 08, 2015, 06:09:11 pm
That sucks to hear. It deserves better.

It definitely does deserve better sales wise, but at least it's getting excellent reviews. And anyways, huge sales doesn't seem to be Vanessa's goal. Saw this exchange on Twitter the other day...

(http://i63.tinypic.com/2r46bkg.jpg)
LOL you didn't need to hide that person's (your?) username. all it takes is to go on V's twitter to see it haha

No, it's not mine lol. I just blurred it out because I was posting it somewhere where the OP hadn't agreeded to his tweets being posted.
Haha okay

Anyways, I'm glad it wasn't made to go mainstream. However I do think "Operator" could have a fair chance to be played on radio and become a minor hit.

True! Operator has the potential to get some major airplay.

I'm not sure how that stuff works, though. Would her label have to send it to radio stations?
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: Alex0821 on November 09, 2015, 11:58:03 am
That sucks to hear. It deserves better.

It definitely does deserve better sales wise, but at least it's getting excellent reviews. And anyways, huge sales doesn't seem to be Vanessa's goal. Saw this exchange on Twitter the other day...

(http://i63.tinypic.com/2r46bkg.jpg)
LOL you didn't need to hide that person's (your?) username. all it takes is to go on V's twitter to see it haha

No, it's not mine lol. I just blurred it out because I was posting it somewhere where the OP hadn't agreeded to his tweets being posted.
Haha okay

Anyways, I'm glad it wasn't made to go mainstream. However I do think "Operator" could have a fair chance to be played on radio and become a minor hit.

True! Operator has the potential to get some major airplay.

I'm not sure how that stuff works, though. Would her label have to send it to radio stations?

That's usually the case, yes. Sometimes a song goes viral on its own and radio stations willingly play it of their own volition (like that "let me take a selfie" song), but for the most part the label has to make a concerted effort to get a song major airplay. Some labels actually pay a station to spin a song once per hour the day it comes out. Katy Perry, Lady Gaga, and big stars like that have all benefited from pay-to-play.

That's the downside of being on an Indie label - they don't often have the money or the "manpower" to really push a song onto radio. I'm not sure how much time and energy Dine Alone is willing to spend on that, since it doesn't seem like commercial success if a priority of Vanessa's these days.
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: fantastical on November 09, 2015, 02:24:46 pm
was this posted?

liberman live on radio: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ik0X4bM-v8M

edited to add that skye's harmonization on "nothing where something" is really cute :3

https://soundcloud.com/wfpk/vanessa-carlton-on-wfpks-live-lunch-103015

Here you can listen to the interview as well.

This sounds wonderful. I love her and Skye's collabs if you could say that.

House of Seven Swords sounds just the way it should. I love the album version don't get me wrong but it sounds different and much better stripped down bare to just piano and strings. It's strange that she had so much difficulty with getting the rythm right. All the live performances 'clicked' before so how could that be a problem?
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: Martin. on November 09, 2015, 11:32:01 pm
Irv posted this recently. Not strictly 'Liberman' related, but I thought it was really sweet of him...

(http://s14.postimg.org/au996ftr5/Photo_Grid_1447140434281.jpg)
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: private-radio on November 13, 2015, 04:20:34 pm
Great performance of Operator. I am really in love with that song.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDrm2sX1Byc
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: Alex0821 on November 14, 2015, 03:20:44 pm
Great performance of Operator. I am really in love with that song.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDrm2sX1Byc

This is awesome! I didn't know Skye was doing all that stuff (I haven't been watching the recent live performances, since I'm seeing her in December and want it to be fresh). I wonder if Vanessa's friend KT Tunstall introduced her to the looping pedal :P

omg her comment at the end XD
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: [sobriquet] on November 17, 2015, 09:39:26 am
House of Seven Swords video! http://blogs.wsj.com/speakeasy/2015/11/17/watch-vanessa-carltons-video-for-house-of-seven-swords-exclusive/
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: coldyoungheart on November 17, 2015, 10:18:58 am
House of Seven Swords video! http://blogs.wsj.com/speakeasy/2015/11/17/watch-vanessa-carltons-video-for-house-of-seven-swords-exclusive/

Lovely video. I love it!
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: AG. on November 17, 2015, 10:55:12 am
Love this, so simple, elegant. And baby Sid is adorable as ever!
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: sarab on November 17, 2015, 12:29:46 pm
loving the glimpses into her life and home.  I see her smile while she looks at sid and that is what's magical.  she's stunningly beautiful as always.
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: Arwen on November 18, 2015, 10:21:37 am
Really pretty and I was surprised when Sid showed up. So adorable! I think it's cool that HTB was shot in her NYC house and now we've got a video in her Nashville one.
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: karenz on November 19, 2015, 05:34:47 pm
Enjoying the new video. I loved the Hear the Bells video because it was so simple and personal, and this video does seem like the sequel to it, in a way. It's so sweet that Sid's in it. I wasn't expecting that.
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: _all_is_well_ on November 22, 2015, 06:28:36 pm
I don't know where to post this. But what do you guys make of the comment Irv Gotti left on her instagram post about taking a break from/ using less social media? I am intrigued.


"irvgotti187@vanessacarltonactual I actually knew this was gonna happen. As I know my V too well. So please before she disappears. Please. Someone. Management. Record Label. Someone. If not her. Get in touch with me. I have ideas and business to do with my V. This is real. I need to connect with her. She will love the ideas that I have for her. Trust me. And yes. This is Irv Gotti. And yes. Heroes and Thieves came out on my Murder Inc label. And yes. I'm Vee's GANESH! And Yes. I love and respect her and think she is a genius with the pen and that piano. And Yes. I will never stop fighting for her cause of the genuine love that I have for her. So please. I know someone is reading this. DM with her IG account so I will see it please. And get to talk to her. ❤️❤️❤️"
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: Alex0821 on November 23, 2015, 06:22:29 pm
I don't know where to post this. But what do you guys make of the comment Irv Gotti left on her instagram post about taking a break from/ using less social media? I am intrigued.


"irvgotti187@vanessacarltonactual I actually knew this was gonna happen. As I know my V too well. So please before she disappears. Please. Someone. Management. Record Label. Someone. If not her. Get in touch with me. I have ideas and business to do with my V. This is real. I need to connect with her. She will love the ideas that I have for her. Trust me. And yes. This is Irv Gotti. And yes. Heroes and Thieves came out on my Murder Inc label. And yes. I'm Vee's GANESH! And Yes. I love and respect her and think she is a genius with the pen and that piano. And Yes. I will never stop fighting for her cause of the genuine love that I have for her. So please. I know someone is reading this. DM with her IG account so I will see it please. And get to talk to her. ❤️❤️❤️"


That is reeeeeeally interesting. Why did she leave his label? I don't remember. Was it just a business thing (i.e. poor sales) or did they have a fight or something? I loved the production on H&T so I would be so stoked to hear another album like that, though I can't imagine we'll ever get it.
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: MrMoon on November 24, 2015, 05:47:21 pm
i am intrigued by this too, but i will say that heroes and thieves is my least favorite produced album. the instrumentations seem overdone and the vocals not enough. then the drums and instruments sound very processed while the vocals don't and it feels off putting to me like that. also, some of the melodies just feel cheesy. i realize i'm the minority of fans who don't like the album. actually, my friend just interviewed V and she said that she wasn't a fan of the cover and felt like they did too much and rushed it.

http://www.playbackstl.com/music/profiles/14280-vanessa-carlton-binding-dreams-and-casting-spells

anyway, i think now that she has more of a personal vision, i think working again with irv could have some interesting results.
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: KULPDOGG on November 24, 2015, 07:04:55 pm
I don't know where to post this. But what do you guys make of the comment Irv Gotti left on her instagram post about taking a break from/ using less social media? I am intrigued.


"irvgotti187@vanessacarltonactual I actually knew this was gonna happen. As I know my V too well. So please before she disappears. Please. Someone. Management. Record Label. Someone. If not her. Get in touch with me. I have ideas and business to do with my V. This is real. I need to connect with her. She will love the ideas that I have for her. Trust me. And yes. This is Irv Gotti. And yes. Heroes and Thieves came out on my Murder Inc label. And yes. I'm Vee's GANESH! And Yes. I love and respect her and think she is a genius with the pen and that piano. And Yes. I will never stop fighting for her cause of the genuine love that I have for her. So please. I know someone is reading this. DM with her IG account so I will see it please. And get to talk to her. ❤️❤️❤️"


I'm definitely not opposed to hearing more tracks like "m-a-k-e-l-o-v-e-t-o-m-e".... but not sure if it's what V really wants.
Glad to know she's at least wanted and can do more things if she needs to... but ultimately, it is up to her.
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: sarab on November 25, 2015, 09:29:10 am
that's a great interview.  I like the introduction and the questions are different from the norm.  you're friend is great!
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: me and my piano---tim on November 25, 2015, 10:10:31 pm
I don't know where to post this. But what do you guys make of the comment Irv Gotti left on her instagram post about taking a break from/ using less social media? I am intrigued.


"irvgotti187@vanessacarltonactual I actually knew this was gonna happen. As I know my V too well. So please before she disappears. Please. Someone. Management. Record Label. Someone. If not her. Get in touch with me. I have ideas and business to do with my V. This is real. I need to connect with her. She will love the ideas that I have for her. Trust me. And yes. This is Irv Gotti. And yes. Heroes and Thieves came out on my Murder Inc label. And yes. I'm Vee's GANESH! And Yes. I love and respect her and think she is a genius with the pen and that piano. And Yes. I will never stop fighting for her cause of the genuine love that I have for her. So please. I know someone is reading this. DM with her IG account so I will see it please. And get to talk to her. ❤️❤️❤️"


What does he mean by "before she disappears"? Does he think this is going to be her last album or something? And are there romantic undertones here? He sounds a little desperate, which is not how V sounds at all...
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: coldyoungheart on November 26, 2015, 01:59:02 pm
I don't know where to post this. But what do you guys make of the comment Irv Gotti left on her instagram post about taking a break from/ using less social media? I am intrigued.


"irvgotti187@vanessacarltonactual I actually knew this was gonna happen. As I know my V too well. So please before she disappears. Please. Someone. Management. Record Label. Someone. If not her. Get in touch with me. I have ideas and business to do with my V. This is real. I need to connect with her. She will love the ideas that I have for her. Trust me. And yes. This is Irv Gotti. And yes. Heroes and Thieves came out on my Murder Inc label. And yes. I'm Vee's GANESH! And Yes. I love and respect her and think she is a genius with the pen and that piano. And Yes. I will never stop fighting for her cause of the genuine love that I have for her. So please. I know someone is reading this. DM with her IG account so I will see it please. And get to talk to her. ❤️❤️❤️"


What does he mean by "before she disappears"? Does he think this is going to be her last album or something? And are there romantic undertones here? He sounds a little desperate, which is not how V sounds at all...

I thought it meant 'before she disappears' from social media, but who knows...

Anyways, I would totally be up for a V & Irv collab!
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: Alex0821 on November 28, 2015, 07:48:14 pm
LOL but is any cover more rushed than this one?

(http://hiddenjamsmusic.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/Vanessa-Carlton-Liberman-album.jpg)

I mean let's be honest, The H&T cover runs aesthetic laps around her more recent stuff.
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: me and my piano---tim on November 29, 2015, 12:44:06 am
I don't know where to post this. But what do you guys make of the comment Irv Gotti left on her instagram post about taking a break from/ using less social media? I am intrigued.


"irvgotti187@vanessacarltonactual I actually knew this was gonna happen. As I know my V too well. So please before she disappears. Please. Someone. Management. Record Label. Someone. If not her. Get in touch with me. I have ideas and business to do with my V. This is real. I need to connect with her. She will love the ideas that I have for her. Trust me. And yes. This is Irv Gotti. And yes. Heroes and Thieves came out on my Murder Inc label. And yes. I'm Vee's GANESH! And Yes. I love and respect her and think she is a genius with the pen and that piano. And Yes. I will never stop fighting for her cause of the genuine love that I have for her. So please. I know someone is reading this. DM with her IG account so I will see it please. And get to talk to her. ❤️❤️❤️"


What does he mean by "before she disappears"? Does he think this is going to be her last album or something? And are there romantic undertones here? He sounds a little desperate, which is not how V sounds at all...

I thought it meant 'before she disappears' from social media, but who knows...

Anyways, I would totally be up for a V & Irv collab!

You're probably right. I should be slapped for gossiping about v ✋
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: MrMoon on November 29, 2015, 08:37:08 pm
LOL but is any cover more rushed than this one?

(http://hiddenjamsmusic.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/Vanessa-Carlton-Liberman-album.jpg)

I mean let's be honest, The H&T cover runs aesthetic laps around her more recent stuff.

minimalism does not equate being rushed and intricacy does not equate time thought out. though i'm not a fan of the liberman cover, i don't like the aesthetic of heroes and thieves at all.
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: coldyoungheart on November 30, 2015, 12:53:10 pm
I don't know where to post this. But what do you guys make of the comment Irv Gotti left on her instagram post about taking a break from/ using less social media? I am intrigued.


"irvgotti187@vanessacarltonactual I actually knew this was gonna happen. As I know my V too well. So please before she disappears. Please. Someone. Management. Record Label. Someone. If not her. Get in touch with me. I have ideas and business to do with my V. This is real. I need to connect with her. She will love the ideas that I have for her. Trust me. And yes. This is Irv Gotti. And yes. Heroes and Thieves came out on my Murder Inc label. And yes. I'm Vee's GANESH! And Yes. I love and respect her and think she is a genius with the pen and that piano. And Yes. I will never stop fighting for her cause of the genuine love that I have for her. So please. I know someone is reading this. DM with her IG account so I will see it please. And get to talk to her. ❤️❤️❤️"


What does he mean by "before she disappears"? Does he think this is going to be her last album or something? And are there romantic undertones here? He sounds a little desperate, which is not how V sounds at all...

I thought it meant 'before she disappears' from social media, but who knows...

Anyways, I would totally be up for a V & Irv collab!

You're probably right. I should be slapped for gossiping about v ✋

Haha, don't worry about it.
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: AG. on December 03, 2015, 02:30:59 pm
I don't think this has been shared, but there's a nice long video interview here:
http://live.huffingtonpost.com/r/segment/singer-songwriter-vanessa-carlton-liberman-tour/562686c099ec6d62c7000376
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: sarab on December 07, 2015, 07:35:00 am
I don't think this has been shared, but there's a nice long video interview here:
http://live.huffingtonpost.com/r/segment/singer-songwriter-vanessa-carlton-liberman-tour/562686c099ec6d62c7000376

this is nice.  a long interview, we rarely get these it seems.. at least not on video.  but I wonder if this was the beginnings of her not wanting to share so much on twitter.. they pulled a lot of quotes and stuff from twitter/instagram and she said something to the effect of "wow I share a lot"
I miss her on twitter :( but I totally get it.  I see myself on my phone way too much.  not as present in the current moment with my child. I definitely dont' want to be that family that's always on their phones and not talking to each other
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: coldyoungheart on December 07, 2015, 09:21:35 am
That's such a great interview. @sarab, you're right, these types of interviews with Vanessa don't come along too often so they're really nice to see. Vanessa is always super eloquent. I love hearing her talk about her music. And she was so adorable when she was talking about Sid! You can tell how happy she makes her.

She looked great, too. I love the shirt she was wearing!
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: coldyoungheart on December 16, 2015, 10:36:10 am
According to V's newsletter, her Nashville show(December 17th) is going to be filmed. This is really exciting! I really hope the show will be available for purchase.

It's funny because with Taylor Swift's 1989 tour movie being released soon, I was thinking about how amazing it would be to have one of Vanessa's shows/tours filmed!
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: Ghisy on December 16, 2015, 11:56:23 am
This recording better be in HD and available on Blu-Ray!! Otherwise, no buy!  :P
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: nutnlp on December 16, 2015, 08:11:46 pm
BluRay or no buy? LOL....alright then.  I'm fine with a DVD. People are too much....

I'll be so happy to have a concert film to purchase no matter the format from V...this tour is beautiful.
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: private-radio on December 17, 2015, 03:55:32 am
YES !!! At Last !!!
I remember that a DVD was also expected many years ago during the Heroes and Thieves tour. They filmed the show and interviewed many fans.
I don't know why this project finally did not go through!
Hope it will be different this time!
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: Ghisy on December 17, 2015, 11:50:17 am
BluRay or no buy? LOL....alright then.  I'm fine with a DVD. People are too much....

It's 2015, we should expect the best for our Vanessa so a Blu-ray makes sense. If it's a DVD, I guess I'll buy it but I'll be super pissed about the quality. I'm willing to pay $40 for a Blu-ray though, I don't care about its price.
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: lavender skies on December 17, 2015, 12:36:54 pm
I'm still so bitter that H and T video never came to light! The Haunted Club tour was perfection and I remember being at that show. Can't wait to have a physical copy of this tour though!
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: sarab on December 18, 2015, 05:33:24 am
it also looks like the Watson twins will be with her.. which is what she posted would be a dream.. them singing back up.  I thought that some back up singers would be fantastic for her, then she posted that, and now they will be at her show, and recorded!  I know that skye did some back up but I could barely hear him.  I don't know if it's because I was front row so the speakers with the bass was right in my face so I couldn't hear him, his mic was turned way down, or it was supposed to be that way..
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: MrMoon on December 18, 2015, 11:39:33 pm
nashville show was amazing!

also she said they were recording an ep that night. we'll see how it goes. i want the whole show recording. i loved the soundscapes she and skye created. i loved the featured extra players for the set. it'd be cool if she could do this more often.
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: fantastical on December 22, 2015, 11:07:04 am
Sorry if this has been asked before and answered but did she thank us Nessaholics in the booklet this time around? Cause with Rabbits she forgot and there was an uproar and she felt guilty/embarrassed and quickly adressed us on Twitter.
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: Ghisy on December 23, 2015, 09:48:55 am
@fantastical, yes she does thank us:

(http://i68.tinypic.com/1z20mll.jpg)
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: fantastical on January 01, 2016, 08:07:33 am
^ Sweet. I guess it's not really necessary to adress us specifically. Basicly all the true fans she has are Nessaholics.
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: EduardoWillio on May 27, 2016, 12:38:39 am
And the version remix of nothing something used to be appears in the cd liberman label caroline somebody has the cd and knows about that
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: Rabbits_on_the_run on May 27, 2016, 07:41:42 am
You mean on the european release?? I bought it recently, it has the logo from Caroline records on it but the tracklist doesn't add the remix. Must give it a listen to see if the remix replaced the original album version. Will get back to you!
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: jackoajl on May 29, 2016, 04:39:20 pm
please let us know, i'm courious about that too. ???
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: Rabbits_on_the_run on May 30, 2016, 07:32:03 am
please let us know, i'm courious about that too. ???
Okay, just had a listen at the european version and it is absolutely the same. The sequencing and the songs are exactly like on the US version so sadly no "Nothing where something used to be" remix on it :(
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: EduardoWillio on May 30, 2016, 03:55:08 pm
Thank you Rabbits_on_the_run  :)
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: jackoajl on May 31, 2016, 05:30:17 pm
please let us know, i'm courious about that too. ???
Okay, just had a listen at the european version and it is absolutely the same. The sequencing and the songs are exactly like on the US version so sadly no "Nothing where something used to be" remix on it :(

Thanks!!! ;)
Title: Re: Liberman
Post by: CelestialHorse on August 18, 2016, 03:19:28 pm
Hi! Been awhile! :) I love her new album! :D I am still a pretty big fan since A Thousand Miles. It's n ice to have a singer/band you can follow for so long :)

There isn't any songs I DON'T like on the album or any songs I don't like of hers really. BRB, gonna read rest of this thread :)