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Title: A question about dating.. and age limits.
Post by: Fairy on October 25, 2004, 12:57:27 pm
Do you think it's wrong for a 24 year old to date/talk to/think about being with a person who just turned 16?

Just askin'
Title: A question about dating.. and age limits.
Post by: Grakthis on October 25, 2004, 12:59:10 pm
I fully support the "divide by 2 add 7" rule.

THough, this means arguably I could date a girl who is 19.5 years old.  Which I would still consider too young.

In fact, I DID turn down a chance to be setup with a 19 year old.
Title: A question about dating.. and age limits.
Post by: Fairy on October 25, 2004, 01:00:07 pm
I just think that going after a girl/guy who isn't even out of highschool when you're out of college/haven't been to college and can't rightfully support yourself, is kind of baaaaaaaaaad.
Title: A question about dating.. and age limits.
Post by: Grakthis on October 25, 2004, 01:02:03 pm
Quote from: "Fairy"
I just think that going after a girl/guy who isn't even out of highschool when you're out of college/haven't been to college and can't rightfully support yourself, is kind of baaaaaaaaaad.


My friend Josh is marrying a girl he started dating when she was 17 and he was 22.

Though, frankly, every single one of his friends hates her.... she's insane.  She wasn't looking for a boyfriend, she was looking for a father.

In fact, when they broke up for a few months, she dated a 35 year old.

We expect them to be divorced soon :)

Edit: THe can't support yourself part I think is the worst.  Really, who turns 24 and can't support themselves yet?

I'm 25.  I have a brand new car, I own my own house, I own a portion of the company I work for.  I support myself, 2 cats and a dog.

Sad.
Title: A question about dating.. and age limits.
Post by: Fairy on October 25, 2004, 01:02:49 pm
People are just weird. I don't care if you're 25 with the mentality of a 12 year old, doesn't mean you can date one!
Title: A question about dating.. and age limits.
Post by: Grakthis on October 25, 2004, 01:04:41 pm
Quote from: "Fairy"
People are just weird. I don't care if you're 25 with the mentality of a 12 year old, doesn't mean you can date one!


I'm 25 with the penis of a 12 yea....

errrr.

Ignore that.
Title: A question about dating.. and age limits.
Post by: LimeTwister on October 25, 2004, 01:20:03 pm
we needed to know that, andrew...we really did.


and, date your own age..not someone who is 8 years older than you.
Title: A question about dating.. and age limits.
Post by: BWilli on October 25, 2004, 01:27:23 pm
go with the 5 year rule...24 can date down to 19...

anyone under 18 years old, 2 to 3 years
Title: A question about dating.. and age limits.
Post by: Vultch on October 25, 2004, 02:00:41 pm
"And who is to say?" :wink: Well there's 16 years between Jenkins & Vanessa, they made it work. lol But thats a situation with unique circumatances tho, I'm just giving an example.
As long as no sex is invloved till the one person turns 18, and if they have good chemestry together, its like any other relationship. Most the time I would agree with 5 years plus/minus at least when you're activly looking, but sometimes as we see from Jenkins & VC, if two people have chemestry, something clicks, go for it.
Title: A question about dating.. and age limits.
Post by: Fairy on October 25, 2004, 05:45:49 pm
What could a 24 year old and a girl who JUST turned 16 possibly have in common? Unless he has the mental compacity of a 16 year old boy himself. There's not much there.. if you think so then thats just odd :|.

A 24 year old is pretty much out of school and should be working towards a life goal.. a 16 year old girl is just getting settled with highschool and just starting to learn about boys.

In my opinion any 24 year old that persues someone that age is really off. I've talked to guys older than me, but after a while I would ask myself "what does this weirdo want with me?"

Friends are ok, and with the V and J thing, thats very different.
Title: A question about dating.. and age limits.
Post by: tylor2000 on October 25, 2004, 10:42:07 pm
In every case I've personally experienced with my own two eyes, there is something wrong with the 24 year old.  I'VE seen it many many times.  Both when I was younger, at like 16, and older, at around 24.

At that age of 24 there are so many interesting hot and horny women over 18 who want to literally jump down your pants that if the guy decides to take a risk with someone under 18 then there is something wrong with him.

My preference of not dating people younger than me, for instance 19, is simply that; a preference.  Part of which is because I've dated so many 19 year olds that I'm simply so over that age from overkill.  If you eat the same thing all the time you get sick of it.  If I never date another 19 year old in my life, I think I'll do just fine.

tylor
Title: A question about dating.. and age limits.
Post by: Alecs on October 25, 2004, 10:54:20 pm
18 is legal so...
Title: A question about dating.. and age limits.
Post by: kev222 on October 26, 2004, 12:16:00 am
Quote from: "tylor2000"
At that age of 24 there are so many interesting hot and horny women over 18 who want to literally jump down your pants

There are?! Sweet. I can't wait until next year :D

-Kev
Title: A question about dating.. and age limits.
Post by: Grakthis on October 26, 2004, 05:26:46 am
Quote from: "blackvulture"
"And who is to say?" :wink: Well there's 16 years between Jenkins & Vanessa, they made it work. lol But thats a situation with unique circumatances tho, I'm just giving an example.
As long as no sex is invloved till the one person turns 18, and if they have good chemestry together, its like any other relationship. Most the time I would agree with 5 years plus/minus at least when you're activly looking, but sometimes as we see from Jenkins & VC, if two people have chemestry, something clicks, go for it.


I think VC and Stephan easily meet the "divide by 2 add 7" rule though.

See, it's not really about age difference.  40 and 30 seems fine.  20 and 10 does not.

It's about RELATIVE difference.

So, according to the rule, Stephen (who is like 37 no?) should be fine dating anyone 25.5+

Vanessa is 25, no?  So that's right about on the edge of acceptable.

I tend to agree with Tylor on this one though.  Usually there is a maturity issue with the 24 year old.  He/She needs to grow up a LOT if he/she is going after someone that young.  I remember being 16 and my older brothers being 24 and 26 and we had NOTHING in common till after I was about to graduate college.

Edit: BTW, WHO-DEY!
Title: A question about dating.. and age limits.
Post by: zurielshimon on October 26, 2004, 05:47:00 am
Actually, I'm more in support of a Divide by 2 and Add 4 rule, except if one party is younger than 18, in which case the Subtract 4 rule applies.  (The latter part of this rule is based on a law common to many states.)

I'm 25½, and my wife is 19, so that fits the rule easily.
Stephan just turned 40 last month, and Vanessa is 24 and a couple of months.  That so barely, just barely fits the rule.
Title: A question about dating.. and age limits.
Post by: Steavis on October 26, 2004, 06:11:49 am
I dated a girl who just turned 16 when I was almost 19, the whole idea I personally have is that in a relationship, as long as both sides understand their feelings and truly know what they feel, age shouldn't be a matter...now this only goes so far, don't go dating 4 year olds by that rule, that's just sick
Title: A question about dating.. and age limits.
Post by: Grakthis on October 26, 2004, 07:31:16 am
Quote from: "Steavis"
I dated a girl who just turned 16 when I was almost 19, the whole idea I personally have is that in a relationship, as long as both sides understand their feelings and truly know what they feel, age shouldn't be a matter...now this only goes so far, don't go dating 4 year olds by that rule, that's just sick


19/2 = 8 + 7 = 15.

hmmmm..... 15 and 19 seems a little iffy.  16 and 19 seems perfectly fine to me though.

I always said that if both people are under 21 then the 2 year rule applies.  3 is a little past what I would have recomended.... but it's def not BAD in any way.  The only weird part there though is that you hit the college barrier which makes having something in common kinda hard.

Though, I will admit, when I was 21 and a sr in college there was an 18 year old freshmen who had a huge thing for me that I considered dating.  I did eventually decide it was a bad idea though.

I think all these scenarios are right there in the gray area of ok.

Though, I think the argument here is that a 16 year old cannot possibly have CLEAR feelings involving a 24 year old.  a 16 year old is not mature enough.  Kinda like why 18 is the proper age for contractual responsibility.  Younger than that and anything you sign is void because you're not mature enough to truly UNDERSTAND what you're signing.
Title: A question about dating.. and age limits.
Post by: Fairy on October 26, 2004, 08:32:53 am
And I've had my fair share of online relationships to know that love isn't real, until you've actually been around the person and one weekend doesn't count.

You can't base any real emotions off of something that only exists through a phone line.

.Especially is the girl is 16 and she's young. Her parents are out of their minds to let her even talk to someone on the internet about love/dating/other things of that nature :\.

I just took this to a whole new level of pathetic.
Title: A question about dating.. and age limits.
Post by: loveplasticlove on October 26, 2004, 09:04:48 am
I say who cares... as long as it does not concern you do not worry about it.  If this 24 year old is not out to have sex with the 16.... let it be.  Age does not determine the connection people feel.   Just don't break any laws that may land you in jail.
Title: A question about dating.. and age limits.
Post by: Grakthis on October 26, 2004, 09:32:15 am
Quote from: "Fairy"
And I've had my fair share of online relationships to know that love isn't real, until you've actually been around the person and one weekend doesn't count.

You can't base any real emotions off of something that only exists through a phone line.

.Especially is the girl is 16 and she's young. Her parents are out of their minds to let her even talk to someone on the internet about love/dating/other things of that nature :\.

I just took this to a whole new level of pathetic.


:)

You're such a good little cynic.

I less than three Cordi.
Title: A question about dating.. and age limits.
Post by: Fairy on October 26, 2004, 09:38:39 am
Quote from: "Grakthis"
Quote from: "Fairy"
And I've had my fair share of online relationships to know that love isn't real, until you've actually been around the person and one weekend doesn't count.

You can't base any real emotions off of something that only exists through a phone line.

.Especially is the girl is 16 and she's young. Her parents are out of their minds to let her even talk to someone on the internet about love/dating/other things of that nature :\.

I just took this to a whole new level of pathetic.


:)

You're such a good little cynic.

I less than three Cordi.


cn wie date now?!
Title: A question about dating.. and age limits.
Post by: Grakthis on October 26, 2004, 11:40:36 am
Quote from: "Fairy"
Quote from: "Grakthis"
Quote from: "Fairy"
And I've had my fair share of online relationships to know that love isn't real, until you've actually been around the person and one weekend doesn't count.

You can't base any real emotions off of something that only exists through a phone line.

.Especially is the girl is 16 and she's young. Her parents are out of their minds to let her even talk to someone on the internet about love/dating/other things of that nature :\.

I just took this to a whole new level of pathetic.


:)

You're such a good little cynic.

I less than three Cordi.


cn wie date now?!


OMFG!111! ur soooo my e-girlfriend!1 LOLZ!
Title: A question about dating.. and age limits.
Post by: Fairy on October 26, 2004, 12:09:37 pm
Quote from: "Grakthis"
Quote from: "Fairy"
Quote from: "Grakthis"
Quote from: "Fairy"
And I've had my fair share of online relationships to know that love isn't real, until you've actually been around the person and one weekend doesn't count.

You can't base any real emotions off of something that only exists through a phone line.

.Especially is the girl is 16 and she's young. Her parents are out of their minds to let her even talk to someone on the internet about love/dating/other things of that nature :\.

I just took this to a whole new level of pathetic.


:)

You're such a good little cynic.

I less than three Cordi.


OMFG!111! ur soooo my e-girlfriend!1 LOLZ!

cn wie date now?!


I starred at this for like 30 minutes trying to find your response. :|

OMG LIEK TOTALLY KEWL.
Title: A question about dating.. and age limits.
Post by: Grakthis on October 26, 2004, 12:14:28 pm
Quote from: "Fairy"
Quote from: "Grakthis"
Quote from: "Fairy"
Quote from: "Grakthis"
Quote from: "Fairy"
And I've had my fair share of online relationships to know that love isn't real, until you've actually been around the person and one weekend doesn't count.

You can't base any real emotions off of something that only exists through a phone line.

.Especially is the girl is 16 and she's young. Her parents are out of their minds to let her even talk to someone on the internet about love/dating/other things of that nature :\.

I just took this to a whole new level of pathetic.


:)

You're such a good little cynic.

I less than three Cordi.


OMFG!111! ur soooo my e-girlfriend!1 LOLZ!

cn wie date now?!


I starred at this for like 30 minutes trying to find your response. :|

OMG LIEK TOTALLY KEWL.


Yeah.  Pwned by quote tags :(
Title: A question about dating.. and age limits.
Post by: Manda on October 26, 2004, 06:01:01 pm
YES!  :oops:
Title: A question about dating.. and age limits.
Post by: Xenophanes on October 26, 2004, 06:46:43 pm
I'm going to say that in general, age gaps don't matter too much, assuming that neither party is still in what might call their "formative years". Medical knowledge shows that one's mind and emotional processing, etc., can still be in development up to around age 25, so I would think one should be cautious when you have people with larger age gaps dating in which one of them is a teenager -- 25ish, as there could be huge differences in maturity between the two.
Title: A question about dating.. and age limits.
Post by: Jay_Oh on October 30, 2004, 10:52:52 pm
I think once a female hits the age of 16 they all tend to go out with older guys anyways...maturity levels are higher in females as we all know. I don't think there's anything wrong with a 16 year old going out with someone under 23. Infact I'm almost 17 and my boyfriend has just turned 21. I don't consider that a wrong. He never pressures me or anything so I guess it's just a matter of choice between the two people concerned.
Title: A question about dating.. and age limits.
Post by: tylor2000 on October 31, 2004, 02:30:30 am
Quote from: "Jay_Oh"
I think once a female hits the age of 16 they all tend to go out with older guys anyways...maturity levels are higher in females as we all know. I don't think there's anything wrong with a 16 year old going out with someone under 23. Infact I'm almost 17 and my boyfriend has just turned 21. I don't consider that a wrong. He never pressures me or anything so I guess it's just a matter of choice between the two people concerned.


In New Zealand the legal age is younger at the age of 16.  Which drives one of my main points home.  It is not just a matter of emotional maturity but a sign of faulty thinking for a man to date a female under the legal age.  To go out with jailbait IS putting yourself at risk.  For a man to put himself at risk like that is evidence there is something wrong with him and his thinking.  And then factor in the maturity issue.  A man like that is an incompetent man who most mature older women WON'T go out with. Which is why he is going out with the only thing he can get/impress.  In my experience those same men are not only going out with underage women but also making bad judgement calls in other parts of their life, in areas most women still in highschool and living with their parents are not going to see or understand.

Females having higher maturity levels is a bunch of BS in my opinion.  They are just attracted to older men.  Older men are attracted to younger females.  That is it.

tylor
Title: A question about dating.. and age limits.
Post by: Grakthis on October 31, 2004, 06:51:44 am
Quote from: "tylor2000"
Quote from: "Jay_Oh"
I think once a female hits the age of 16 they all tend to go out with older guys anyways...maturity levels are higher in females as we all know. I don't think there's anything wrong with a 16 year old going out with someone under 23. Infact I'm almost 17 and my boyfriend has just turned 21. I don't consider that a wrong. He never pressures me or anything so I guess it's just a matter of choice between the two people concerned.


In New Zealand the legal age is younger at the age of 16.  Which drives one of my main points home.  It is not just a matter of emotional maturity but a sign of faulty thinking for a man to date a female under the legal age.  To go out with jailbait IS putting yourself at risk.  For a man to put himself at risk like that is evidence there is something wrong with him and his thinking.  And then factor in the maturity issue.  A man like that is an incompetent man who most mature older women WON'T go out with. Which is why he is going out with the only thing he can get/impress.  In my experience those same men are not only going out with underage women but also making bad judgement calls in other parts of their life, in areas most women still in highschool and living with their parents are not going to see or understand.

Females having higher maturity levels is a bunch of BS in my opinion.  They are just attracted to older men.  Older men are attracted to younger females.  That is it.

tylor


*nods*

Experience > Theory.

Listen to Tylor.  He's speaking from first hand observations of behavior.
Title: A question about dating.. and age limits.
Post by: jlmusicchick on October 31, 2004, 09:03:38 am
i'm really not sure...i have a shit opinion of relationships to begin with. but my Nana started dating my Bapa at 18 when he was 28 and they were together until his death. i think it just depends on the people involved.
Title: A question about dating.. and age limits.
Post by: Fairy on November 02, 2004, 08:46:13 am
Quote from: "jlmusicchick"
i'm really not sure...i have a shit opinion of relationships to begin with. but my Nana started dating my Bapa at 18 when he was 28 and they were together until his death. i think it just depends on the people involved.


But at 18 a girl is an adult, and should be matured enough to know the difference between somethings.

iuno, just find it odd, is all.

But.. if a 23 year old guy can't get a 23 year old girl, or at least someone older than a girl who JUST turned 16, then something is wrong.

but thats just MY OPINION.
Title: A question about dating.. and age limits.
Post by: jlmusicchick on November 02, 2004, 09:44:22 am
Quote from: "Fairy"
Quote from: "jlmusicchick"
i'm really not sure...i have a shit opinion of relationships to begin with. but my Nana started dating my Bapa at 18 when he was 28 and they were together until his death. i think it just depends on the people involved.


But at 18 a girl is an adult, and should be matured enough to know the difference between somethings.

iuno, just find it odd, is all.

But.. if a 23 year old guy can't get a 23 year old girl, or at least someone older than a girl who JUST turned 16, then something is wrong.

but thats just MY OPINION.


lol i get that it's your opinion :-P generally i agree with you, but there are always exceptions to everything
Title: A question about dating.. and age limits.
Post by: Grakthis on November 02, 2004, 10:56:39 am
Quote from: "jlmusicchick"
i'm really not sure...i have a shit opinion of relationships to begin with. but my Nana started dating my Bapa at 18 when he was 28 and they were together until his death. i think it just depends on the people involved.


One exception does not break a rule of sociology.
Title: A question about dating.. and age limits.
Post by: Mountaineer on November 02, 2004, 11:42:20 am
I think its Ok as long one of then isnt taking advantage and take it all serious not just for fooling around which can turn out bad.
Title: A question about dating.. and age limits.
Post by: rosieposy87 on November 02, 2004, 11:53:43 am
Quote from: "Bee"
I think its Ok as long one of then isnt taking advantage and take it all serious not just for fooling around which can turn out bad.


I don't think at 16 you can know where to draw the line, or know what is 'just fooling around' or what involves your heart. Thats why i agree with Fairy.
Title: A question about dating.. and age limits.
Post by: Grakthis on November 04, 2004, 05:46:47 am
Quote from: "rosieposy87"
Quote from: "Bee"
I think its Ok as long one of then isnt taking advantage and take it all serious not just for fooling around which can turn out bad.


I don't think at 16 you can know where to draw the line, or know what is 'just fooling around' or what involves your heart. Thats why i agree with Fairy.


Well, I mean... *I* knew at 16.  But I'm just smarter than everyone else  :wink:
Title: A question about dating.. and age limits.
Post by: Fairy on November 04, 2004, 07:54:32 am
Quote from: "Grakthis"
Quote from: "rosieposy87"
Quote from: "Bee"
I think its Ok as long one of then isnt taking advantage and take it all serious not just for fooling around which can turn out bad.


I don't think at 16 you can know where to draw the line, or know what is 'just fooling around' or what involves your heart. Thats why i agree with Fairy.


Well, I mean... *I* knew at 16.  But I'm just smarter than everyone else  :wink:


omg, andrew.

YOU DID NOT. I WAS THERE. I KNOW.
Title: A question about dating.. and age limits.
Post by: Grakthis on November 04, 2004, 08:09:38 am
Quote from: "Fairy"
Quote from: "Grakthis"
Quote from: "rosieposy87"
Quote from: "Bee"
I think its Ok as long one of then isnt taking advantage and take it all serious not just for fooling around which can turn out bad.


I don't think at 16 you can know where to draw the line, or know what is 'just fooling around' or what involves your heart. Thats why i agree with Fairy.


Well, I mean... *I* knew at 16.  But I'm just smarter than everyone else  :wink:


omg, andrew.

YOU DID NOT. I WAS THERE. I KNOW.


Did you know technically you don't even have to have sex with an underage girl for it to be statutory rape?

Technically, buying her gifts, plane tickets, bus tickets, sending her love letters, etc.  All of those things can fall under statutory rape IF it gives the appearance of a sexual relationship.
Title: A question about dating.. and age limits.
Post by: Fairy on November 04, 2004, 09:18:34 am
Quote from: "Grakthis"
Quote from: "Fairy"
Quote from: "Grakthis"
Quote from: "rosieposy87"
Quote from: "Bee"
I think its Ok as long one of then isnt taking advantage and take it all serious not just for fooling around which can turn out bad.


I don't think at 16 you can know where to draw the line, or know what is 'just fooling around' or what involves your heart. Thats why i agree with Fairy.


Well, I mean... *I* knew at 16.  But I'm just smarter than everyone else  :wink:


omg, andrew.

YOU DID NOT. I WAS THERE. I KNOW.


Did you know technically you don't even have to have sex with an underage girl for it to be statutory rape?

Technically, buying her gifts, plane tickets, bus tickets, sending her love letters, etc.  All of those things can fall under statutory rape IF it gives the appearance of a sexual relationship.


Then I'm taking all your old love letters to the Po-Po today.

You're ass is grass.
Title: A question about dating.. and age limits.
Post by: Grakthis on November 04, 2004, 12:52:00 pm
Quote from: "Fairy"
Quote from: "Grakthis"
Quote from: "Fairy"
Quote from: "Grakthis"
Quote from: "rosieposy87"
Quote from: "Bee"
I think its Ok as long one of then isnt taking advantage and take it all serious not just for fooling around which can turn out bad.


I don't think at 16 you can know where to draw the line, or know what is 'just fooling around' or what involves your heart. Thats why i agree with Fairy.


Well, I mean... *I* knew at 16.  But I'm just smarter than everyone else  :wink:


omg, andrew.

YOU DID NOT. I WAS THERE. I KNOW.


Did you know technically you don't even have to have sex with an underage girl for it to be statutory rape?

Technically, buying her gifts, plane tickets, bus tickets, sending her love letters, etc.  All of those things can fall under statutory rape IF it gives the appearance of a sexual relationship.


Then I'm taking all your old love letters to the Po-Po today.

You're ass is grass.


Your little sister gave you the letters?!?!  I'll kill her!
Title: A question about dating.. and age limits.
Post by: Fairy on November 04, 2004, 05:11:13 pm
SHE SHOWED ME THAT PICTURE TOO.

WHAT WERE YOU DOING TO THAT LITTLE DOG?

:SHOCK:

:shock:
Title: A question about dating.. and age limits.
Post by: vt on November 04, 2004, 11:39:12 pm
that is disgusting.
Title: A question about dating.. and age limits.
Post by: Grakthis on November 05, 2004, 06:38:46 am
Quote from: "Fairy"
SHE SHOWED ME THAT PICTURE TOO.

WHAT WERE YOU DOING TO THAT LITTLE DOG?

:SHOCK:

:shock:


Oh, come on.  She was like 35 in dog years!
Title: A question about dating.. and age limits.
Post by: Chloe on November 05, 2004, 09:30:58 am
Quote from: "Grakthis"
Quote from: "Fairy"
SHE SHOWED ME THAT PICTURE TOO.

WHAT WERE YOU DOING TO THAT LITTLE DOG?

:SHOCK:

:shock:


Oh, come on.  She was like 35 in dog years!

:roflmao: