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Vanessa Carlton => General Vanessa Carlton Discussion => Topic started by: ThomasEj on May 31, 2005, 03:32:05 am

Title: Avatars and Signatures
Post by: ThomasEj on May 31, 2005, 03:32:05 am
I have an idea for another Sticky topic (who decides if it's sticky or not? - make this topic sticky if you like the idea )

I think most of us is trying to do some avatars and signatures ourselves. So the idea is that we'll share here our artworks so that everybody can use it on this board or another... giving credit for the person who made a graphic.

This is what I've done 2 days ago.

(http://img139.echo.cx/img139/3806/image28vm.gif)
(http://img139.echo.cx/img139/8927/image18ng.gif)

these avatars are too big for nessaholics board, however, you can use it on other boards... we can promote Vanessa this way.
Title: Re: Avatars and Signatures
Post by: Scotty on May 31, 2005, 03:39:31 am
Quote from: "ThomasEj"
I have an idea for another Sticky topic (who decides if it's sticky or not? - make this topic sticky if you like the idea )

I think most of us is trying to do some avatars and signatures ourselves. So the idea is that we'll share here our artworks so that everybody can use it on this board or another... giving credit for the person who made a graphic.

This is what I've done 2 days ago.

(http://img139.echo.cx/img139/3806/image28vm.gif)
(http://img139.echo.cx/img139/8927/image18ng.gif)

these avatars are too big for nessaholics board, however, you can use it on other boards... we can promote Vanessa this way.


Those avatars are not too big for this board, check the av regulations in your profile.  And the idea of sharing ur artwork is included in the other sticky thread, you can also use any other persons artwork on a board if you just ask them(speaking for myself obviously but im sure the rest would agree).
Title: Re: Avatars and Signatures
Post by: NESSAussie on May 31, 2005, 05:52:58 am
Quote from: "ThomasEj"
these avatars are too big for nessaholics board

Quote from: "Scotty"
Those avatars are not too big for this board

Actually the size restriction used to be 80 x 80 but was increased to 100 x 100  :D
Title: Re: Avatars and Signatures
Post by: amberbeads on May 31, 2005, 06:02:54 am
Quote from: "Scotty"
Quote from: "ThomasEj"
I have an idea for another Sticky topic (who decides if it's sticky or not? - make this topic sticky if you like the idea )

I think most of us is trying to do some avatars and signatures ourselves. So the idea is that we'll share here our artworks so that everybody can use it on this board or another... giving credit for the person who made a graphic.

This is what I've done 2 days ago.

(http://img139.echo.cx/img139/3806/image28vm.gif)
(http://img139.echo.cx/img139/8927/image18ng.gif)

these avatars are too big for nessaholics board, however, you can use it on other boards... we can promote Vanessa this way.


Those avatars are not too big for this board, check the av regulations in your profile.  And the idea of sharing ur artwork is included in the other sticky thread, you can also use any other persons artwork on a board if you just ask them(speaking for myself obviously but im sure the rest would agree).

I disagree :twisted:
Title: Re: Avatars and Signatures
Post by: Scotty on May 31, 2005, 06:13:26 am
Quote from: "NESSAussie"
Quote from: "ThomasEj"
these avatars are too big for nessaholics board

Quote from: "Scotty"
Those avatars are not too big for this board

Actually the size restriction used to be 80 x 80 but was increased to 100 x 100  :D


Yes I know, that was my point.

Quote from: "amberbeads"
I disagree :twisted:


so if you made a Vanessa sig, and someone asked you if they could use it on another board to promote Vanessa you would say no?
Title: Re: Avatars and Signatures
Post by: NESSAussie on May 31, 2005, 06:25:36 am
Quote from: "ThomasEj"
giving credit for the person who made a graphic.

(http://www.boomspeed.com/deltagood/deltaforumsig09.jpg)
Authoring like the emblem I use in the sigs I make could be used here more :idea:
Title: Avatars and Signatures
Post by: Dora on May 31, 2005, 06:40:25 am
i really think they should make the banner size larger, I have a hard time fitting mine in that size...especially because I have a high resolution widescreen :D  I respect people who don't have that but as long as the banner doesnt distort anything I think it could be at least 500 pixels wide or something.
Title: Avatars and Signatures
Post by: Scotty on May 31, 2005, 07:03:33 am
Quote from: "Dora"
i really think they should make the banner size larger, I have a hard time fitting mine in that size...especially because I have a high resolution widescreen :D  I respect people who don't have that but as long as the banner doesnt distort anything I think it could be at least 500 pixels wide or something.


we've been through this Dora, I think 500x200 would be good. Im glad Icons were increased from 80x80 to 100x100.
Title: Re: Avatars and Signatures
Post by: amberbeads on May 31, 2005, 08:30:37 am
Quote from: "Scotty"
Quote from: "amberbeads"
I disagree :twisted:


so if you made a Vanessa sig, and someone asked you if they could use it on another board to promote Vanessa you would say no?

Hence the use of the "twisted" face... I was just being stupid/difficult. Of course I would let them. The more promo the better :)
Title: Avatars and Signatures
Post by: amberbeads on May 31, 2005, 08:31:16 am
Quote from: "Dora"
i really think they should make the banner size larger, I have a hard time fitting mine in that size...especially because I have a high resolution widescreen :D  I respect people who don't have that but as long as the banner doesnt distort anything I think it could be at least 500 pixels wide or something.

I agree, I have to keep my resolution at 1440x900 because my screen is so big... 400x120 is TINY :?
Title: Avatars and Signatures
Post by: Will on May 31, 2005, 10:19:25 am
Well, the sig size limit is in place for two reasons.

1) Did you ever see the old Meech o-board? Some people had sigs that took up several pages. We wanted to prevent that here.
2) We want to keep the pages somewhat fast loading. True, you can make a 400x120 sig that is 1 MB (in which case, the staff would probably politely ask you to change it anyway). But... chances are, smaller sigs will be smaller.

The total transfer needed to load this thread before I posted was nearly half a megabyte (if I don't have everything cached already). As it is, bandwidth consumption is excessive.
Title: Avatars and Signatures
Post by: Scotty on May 31, 2005, 10:59:24 am
Quote from: "Will"
Well, the sig size limit is in place for two reasons.

1) Did you ever see the old Meech o-board? Some people had sigs that took up several pages. We wanted to prevent that here.
2) We want to keep the pages somewhat fast loading. True, you can make a 400x120 sig that is 1 MB (in which case, the staff would probably politely ask you to change it anyway). But... chances are, smaller sigs will be smaller.

The total transfer needed to load this thread before I posted was nearly half a megabyte (if I don't have everything cached already). As it is, bandwidth consumption is excessive.


yeah we agree there should be a limit, but all we are saying is extending the limit by a couple of pixels isnt gonna change ur viewing by a factor that would annoy you.
Title: Avatars and Signatures
Post by: amberbeads on May 31, 2005, 11:16:33 am
Quote from: "Will"
Well, the sig size limit is in place for two reasons.

1) Did you ever see the old Meech o-board? Some people had sigs that took up several pages. We wanted to prevent that here.
2) We want to keep the pages somewhat fast loading. True, you can make a 400x120 sig that is 1 MB (in which case, the staff would probably politely ask you to change it anyway). But... chances are, smaller sigs will be smaller.

The total transfer needed to load this thread before I posted was nearly half a megabyte (if I don't have everything cached already). As it is, bandwidth consumption is excessive.

The old Meech board was overrun with idiots who weren't subject to any moderation.
Title: Avatars and Signatures
Post by: Dora on May 31, 2005, 11:24:28 am
It's too bad that bandwdith has to be expensive.  I understand that fully since I have my own spaces and know the costs  :lol:   But if you can't afford to have your members have a few extra 100 pixels in their siggies then ouch, I dunno, I mean...Vanessa isn't too popular right now but what if she was?  The board would go over in bandwdith.  I just try to stay prepared and have lots of extra just in case.  But again, I know its really expensive, I have a forum thats just as big ;)
Title: Avatars and Signatures
Post by: Scotty on May 31, 2005, 12:35:08 pm
I am personally not bothered, sure it would be nice to have but i havent dropped down dead from not having it.
Title: Avatars and Signatures
Post by: Will on May 31, 2005, 12:41:12 pm
Quote from: "Scotty"
yeah we agree there should be a limit, but all we are saying is extending the limit by a couple of pixels isnt gonna change ur viewing by a factor that would annoy you.


I understand. The rule is quite arbitrary. However, the line needs to be drawn somewhere. The line may change in the future, too.....

Quote from: "amberbeads"
The old Meech board was overrun with idiots who weren't subject to any moderation.


 :lol:

Quote from: "Dora"
But if you can't afford to have your members have a few extra 100 pixels in their siggies then ouch, I dunno, I mean...Vanessa isn't too popular right now but what if she was?  The board would go over in bandwdith.


Well, transfer at this site isn't a problem. We get free hosting from a very nice fellow who doesn't charge us a cent. We don't host sigs nor do we host avatars over 16 kB. The problem is, some people here still are on 56k dialup. A one half meg page takes 80 seconds to load under somewhat ideal conditions on a 56k dialup connection. We don't wanna make the problem any worse. :)
Title: Avatars and Signatures
Post by: Dora on May 31, 2005, 01:30:17 pm
Quote from: "Will"

Well, transfer at this site isn't a problem. We get free hosting from a very nice fellow who doesn't charge us a cent. We don't host sigs nor do we host avatars over 16 kB.



haha lucky  :lol:
Title: Avatars and Signatures
Post by: ThomasEj on May 31, 2005, 01:37:12 pm
it's obvious that we can write to somebody and ask if we can use his or her avatar or sign. what I meant to do in this topic was to encourage you to creat avatars and sign especially for the others. I can't believe that you have only signs for yourself. I have lots of this stuff that I'm not going to use myself or I created for the others.

I shouldn't have opened this topic. Discusion is on the wrong track. Instead of sharing stuff, people talk about how big they should be.
Title: Avatars and Signatures
Post by: amberbeads on May 31, 2005, 01:55:11 pm
there's already another thread that is exactly for sharing new sigs and graphics... two, in fact. :?
Title: Avatars and Signatures
Post by: amberbeads on May 31, 2005, 01:56:27 pm
Quote from: "Will"
Quote from: "amberbeads"
The old Meech board was overrun with idiots who weren't subject to any moderation.


 :lol:

Well come on do you disagree?? :wink:
Title: Avatars and Signatures
Post by: ThomasEj on June 01, 2005, 12:40:07 am
oh really... I visit only 'General Vanessa Carlton Discussion' Sometimes I open 'Other musicians' or 'Live shows' so I didn't notice... sorry

edit... how stupid I'm Right. I've just found the thread
Title: Avatars and Signatures
Post by: Dora on June 01, 2005, 05:58:59 am
bah, well I'de love to make people siggies, if they'de want me to  :lol:
Title: Avatars and Signatures
Post by: NESSAussie on June 18, 2005, 05:15:33 pm
Quote from: "Dora"
bah, well I'de love to make people siggies, if they'de want me to  :lol:

If you're making PYHOM SIGs there's a Sanskrit (Devanagari) translator here (http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org/Sanskrit/itranslator2003.htm)  :wink:
Title: Avatars and Signatures
Post by: Dora on June 18, 2005, 05:20:40 pm
Quote from: "NESSAussie"
Quote from: "Dora"
bah, well I'de love to make people siggies, if they'de want me to  :lol:

If you're making PYHOM SIGs there's a Sanskrit (Devanagari) translator here (http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org/Sanskrit/itranslator2003.htm)  :wink:



heh, thanks ;)
Title: Avatars and Signatures
Post by: NESSAussie on June 19, 2005, 02:15:09 am
You're welcome :D It took me 2 hours to discover that online, so I didn't finish
adding the Sanskrit to my SIG until this morning; its finished for now I think :?
Title: Signatures
Post by: Lucy on June 20, 2005, 06:26:13 am
Hey I'm new here! Well, I've been reading the forums for ages but only just joined up. I would love it if someone could make me a signature! Could someone please explain to me how you put pictures or what ever in your signature? I thought it was just for text and am a little confused:oops:
Title: Avatars and Signatures
Post by: Dora on June 20, 2005, 06:27:39 am
hey Lucy, would you like one made by me  :oops:
Title: Avatars and Signatures
Post by: NESSAussie on June 20, 2005, 06:55:32 am
Fear not Lucy! Dora can even make you a SIG featuring your name in Sanskrit :wink:
Title: Avatars and Signatures
Post by: Lucy on June 20, 2005, 07:01:04 am
Yes please Dora, that would be great! I don't mind what it includes!
Title: Avatars and Signatures
Post by: liquidblue244 on June 20, 2005, 11:07:44 am
Oh, my!!!  Could anyone make me a siggy?  I wish I could, but I don't have foto-shop, if anyone could, can you PM me, thanx a bundles!!!

(http://www.vanessafanatic.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10002/00r%20061.jpg)
So lovely, yet so wrong....
Title: Avatars and Signatures
Post by: Will on June 20, 2005, 11:15:16 am
Why bother putting something not even you can read into your sig?
Title: Avatars and Signatures
Post by: liquidblue244 on June 20, 2005, 11:22:28 am
hmm....What do you mean, are you addressing me or someone else???  I don't understand the sentence, could you rephrase it please?
Title: Avatars and Signatures
Post by: Will on June 20, 2005, 01:23:01 pm
Quote from: "liquidblue244"
hmm....What do you mean, are you addressing me or someone else???  I don't understand the sentence, could you rephrase it please?


I was talking to NESSAussie, not you. By the way, check your private messages.
Title: Avatars and Signatures
Post by: Dora on June 20, 2005, 01:56:14 pm
Quote from: "Lucy"
Yes please Dora, that would be great! I don't mind what it includes!


alrighty I'll get on it

weee
Title: Avatars and Signatures
Post by: NESSAussie on June 20, 2005, 06:15:36 pm
Quote from: "Will"
Why bother putting something not even you can read into your sig?

For PYHOM themed sigs the Devanagari font is no less appropriate than other
Tibetan elements I included;  Life Lotus, Saffron colored text & hand prints :wink:
Title: Avatars and Signatures
Post by: reveng_desire on June 20, 2005, 10:36:23 pm
Where's, like, the official spot to get a banner thingie? I really want one. Lol...and I have no idea how to make one.
Title: Avatars and Signatures
Post by: Scotty on June 21, 2005, 04:10:48 am
Quote from: "reveng_desire"
Where's, like, the official spot to get a banner thingie? I really want one. Lol...and I have no idea how to make one.


http://forums.nessaholics.com/viewtopic.php?t=6266
Title: Avatars and Signatures
Post by: Will on June 21, 2005, 08:16:17 am
Quote from: "NESSAussie"
Quote from: "Will"
Why bother putting something not even you can read into your sig?

For PYHOM themed sigs the Devanagari font is no less appropriate than other
Tibetan elements I included;  Life Lotus, Saffron colored text & hand prints :wink:


Devanagari is a script, not a font.  :roll:

Also, using a machine translator is pointless. Sanskrit has one of the largest vocabularies of any language in the world. It even surpasses English. Like Latin, it has eight cases, providing routinely used constructions not present in English. Going from Sanskrit to English is one thing. If you go the other way, however, you'll get lots of stuff that doesn't make sense, simply because machines can't yet deal with the complex nuances of Sanskrit. They can barely deal with English, for crying out loud!

Furthermore, that so-called "translator" you linked to is not a translator at all. It converts from ITRANS to Devanagari. ITRANS isn't another name for text in the Latin script. It also contains ways of denoting accents (which we usually omit in English) as well as other nuances that the Latin script doesn't provide us (in English, anyway). Anything you get out of it will be a very poor transliteration of English into the Devanagari script, and as such, has nothing to do with Sanskrit. It's just English in Devanagari, poorly done. Hindi, Napali, and Kashmiri (among others) are routinely written in the Devanagari script, too. In fact, when you see Devanagari, it's more likely to be Hindi than Sanskrit because Hindi is much more widely spoken.

Your sigs are just as pointless as those shirts with random Kanji characters on them.
Title: Avatars and Signatures
Post by: Dora on June 21, 2005, 08:54:39 am
Quote from: "Will"
Quote from: "NESSAussie"
Quote from: "Will"
Why bother putting something not even you can read into your sig?

For PYHOM themed sigs the Devanagari font is no less appropriate than other
Tibetan elements I included;  Life Lotus, Saffron colored text & hand prints :wink:


Devanagari is a script, not a font.  :roll:

Also, using a machine translator is pointless. Sanskrit has one of the largest vocabularies of any language in the world. It even surpasses English. Like Latin, it has eight cases, providing routinely used constructions not present in English. Going from Sanskrit to English is one thing. If you go the other way, however, you'll get lots of stuff that doesn't make sense, simply because machines can't yet deal with the complex nuances of Sanskrit. They can barely deal with English, for crying out loud!

Furthermore, that so-called "translator" you linked to is not a translator at all. It converts from ITRANS to Devanagari. ITRANS isn't another name for text in the Latin script. It also contains ways of denoting accents (which we usually omit in English) as well as other nuances that the Latin script doesn't provide us (in English, anyway). Anything you get out of it will be a very poor transliteration of English into the Devanagari script, and as such, has nothing to do with Sanskrit. It's just English in Devanagari, poorly done. Hindi, Napali, and Kashmiri (among others) are routinely written in the Devanagari script, too. In fact, when you see Devanagari, it's more likely to be Hindi than Sanskrit because Hindi is much more widely spoken.

Your sigs are just as pointless as those shirts with random Kanji characters on them.



*pokes you* nerd ;)
Title: Avatars and Signatures
Post by: rosieposy87 on June 21, 2005, 09:18:33 am
All together now: BOVERED!
Title: Avatars and Signatures
Post by: Lucy on June 21, 2005, 10:52:07 am
Online Translators never work. I tried to use one for my german coursework and the word order got completely messed up and there were too many multiple meanings and tenses of words :(
Title: Avatars and Signatures
Post by: NESSAussie on June 21, 2005, 06:45:09 pm
Quote from: "Will"
Devanagari is a script, not a font.
I should have described that as an itranslator generated representation  8)

Quote from: "Will"
Your sigs are just as pointless as those shirts with random Kanji characters on them.

Phonetics vs. Semantics :wink: I should ask for translation at the forum here (http://forum.lokanova.net/viewforum.php?f=12&sid=c89fae161f87955bbb88194ed7f8ccee)
1st with the context taken into account so the result is more accurate :D
Title: Avatars and Signatures
Post by: BWilli on June 24, 2005, 06:22:53 am
<---- my new avatar   :)
Title: Avatars and Signatures
Post by: NESSAussie on June 24, 2005, 08:05:04 am
Its the bird 8O V trying to make sure we notice the DeBeers on her right hand?
Title: Avatars and Signatures
Post by: Rick on July 01, 2005, 08:28:23 pm
Here are some I came up with.



(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y149/maemanayan56/pic05.jpg)

(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y149/maemanayan56/pic02.jpg)

(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y149/maemanayan56/Clipboard04.jpg)

(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y149/maemanayan56/mirror2.jpg)
Title: horray!
Post by: mandi_vfdotcom on July 02, 2005, 12:35:54 pm
so I made these like a week ago because I got sick of the other avatars in on vf.com,so I think these are cool,you guys are more than welcome to use them! :D

(http://vanessafanatic.com/images/124.jpg)

(http://vanessafanatic.com/images/125.jpg)

(http://vanessafanatic.com/images/126.jpg)

(http://vanessafanatic.com/images/127.jpg)

I'm going to add more to http://www.vanessafanatic.com later,so keep checking back for more.:)

oh & also,If you want a custom one let me know because I'm super bored,Just post a picture and the text you want on it,and also what colors.
Title: original flare
Post by: NESSAussie on July 05, 2005, 06:50:15 am
Quote from: "mandi_vfdotcom"
(http://vanessafanatic.com/images/125.jpg)

Onya Mandi :D Somehow that Avatar doesn't quite capture the original flare :P

(http://photobucket.com/albums/y168/cadenus/th_VC_flaming.jpg) (http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y168/cadenus/VC_flaming.jpg)
Title: i hope mine works!
Post by: pianoboy303 on July 05, 2005, 06:25:11 pm
DJ SG from the official site forum made me this one.  I hope it shows up in my signature, it's the first time I've used it. :wink:
Title: ummmm
Post by: pianoboy303 on July 05, 2005, 06:28:47 pm
um it ain't working lol how do I do it?
Title: Avatars and Signatures
Post by: Arwen on July 05, 2005, 08:40:05 pm
Don't mind me, I'm just testing out the sig Dora just made me to see if it works.
Title: awesome
Post by: pianoboy303 on July 06, 2005, 08:17:51 pm
never mind i got it. so...lol
Title: Avatars and Signatures
Post by: amberbeads on July 07, 2005, 05:35:10 am
Quote from: "Ms.Arwen"
Don't mind me, I'm just testing out the sig Dora just made me to see if it works.

Hey Dora, where'd these pics come from?
Title: Avatars and Signatures
Post by: mandi_vfdotcom on July 12, 2005, 12:13:20 pm
the pictures are from a teen people photoshoot back in 2001 I think.Dora posted them in picture thread if you wanna see them..
Title: Avatars and Signatures
Post by: Dora on July 12, 2005, 01:46:16 pm
yeah look a few pages back in there....

oh and btw i have your icon here but i was asked to do another siggy and got stuck and was gonna send them both at the same time and yeah...lol  ill send it to you soon
Title: Re: horray!
Post by: Shelly on July 14, 2005, 02:08:35 pm
Quote from: "mandi_vfdotcom"

I'm going to add more to http://www.vanessafanatic.com later,so keep checking back for more.:)

oh & also,If you want a custom one let me know because I'm super bored,Just post a picture and the text you want on it,and also what colors.


Great job! Could you do one or two with Vanessa playing the piano? :)

I also want a banner but I'll have to find the picture I want. I'll be back...

Shelly
Title: Avatars and Signatures
Post by: Arwen on July 14, 2005, 02:35:26 pm
Quote from: "Dora"
yeah look a few pages back in there....

oh and btw i have your icon here but i was asked to do another siggy and got stuck and was gonna send them both at the same time and yeah...lol  ill send it to you soon


That's ok! Take your time :)