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Introduce Yourself / Hello! =]
« on: April 19, 2006, 03:42:57 pm »
hola and welcome! :microwave:

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Creative Endeavors / "The Plague"--lyrics.
« on: April 19, 2006, 03:39:24 pm »
Quote from: "MeganJane"
Also, dunno what the music scene is like where you are, but emo is quite popular over here in Adelaide. Lol.


haha! funny you should say that....cuz I just did an open stage thing about a month ago and I played one of my songs and when I finished this girl in the back screamed: "Emo!" and then she laughed and told me there was absolutely nothing wrong with emo.  But I don't want to be tooooo emo. I just want to be me.  That's awesome you have your own style. (I'd like to hear it too!) I don't think I'm there yet, but I will be.  (I'm very critical of my music, so I might never think I have my own style, but oh well.)  And thanks so much for the feedback again.  I hope the mods aren't too annoyed that we're having our own little conversation within this single thread.  8)

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Creative Endeavors / "The Plague"--lyrics.
« on: April 18, 2006, 08:53:06 am »
well thanks again!
I was debating this line in my head for quite some time...and I'm going to make one more subtle change so it's: You need their fuel to feed your fire. yes yes..I like how it looks too.

Oh and sorry, I meant to address your questions earlier but forgot.  :?  So, almost always when I play a song for somebody they ask what genre it would be.  Frankly, I don't know.  When I first started I sounded quite a bit like vanessa, but in the past year I've been writing, I've tried to discover my own style, and this song is one where I think I'm taking a pretty nice leap in my own direction.  Oh and yea I play the piano and am a soloist and I do try to make my songs appealing...not necessarily in a "pop" sort of way but in a Beethoven sort of way.  Does that make any sense? haha.  Especially this song sounds a lot like a simplistic beethoven. Well, it sounds complex, but nothing like true classical music.  I think if you were to type this song by comparing it with v's, it would a combination of white houses, papa, and paradise. I'm pretty confused by it all to tell you the truth! But I hope to save up some cash or something and go record it so you can hear it.  Probably won't be for a while, but I'll definitely pm you when I get an mp3.

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Creative Endeavors / "The Plague"--lyrics.
« on: April 17, 2006, 05:25:38 pm »
whoa whoa thanks so much for the feedback!
I guess when I wrote that line (you want the souls you can't desire)...I was trying to say something to the effect of: you want it, but you can't have it.  But you're right in that even if you can't have it, you can still want it. This was one of the most difficult lines for me to figure out, because it's a complex thought that's hard to put in words...but I guess that's the whole point of a song...I actually had another line in mind to replace that one. let me know what you think  :)

But like a thief you have conspired
You need their souls to feed your fire
Their pearls for your empty chain
The plague just brings you empty pain
(I think 'feed' flows better than 'fuel'...and I like the need-feed connection.)

Definitely thanks a lot for pointing that out. It definitely should be changed.

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General Vanessa Carlton Discussion / change of lyrics for PYHOM?
« on: April 09, 2006, 01:13:59 pm »
I think they may have changed it for it's alliteration.  It may be more catchy with the "s" sound.  :?:

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General Vanessa Carlton Discussion / Penis Bone
« on: April 08, 2006, 11:08:11 pm »
An eternal boner! A man's nightmare, but a woman's dream!

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Creative Endeavors / "The Plague"--lyrics.
« on: April 08, 2006, 01:06:57 pm »
Quote from: "PianoGirl4444"
Maybe it depends on what the music sounds like.


Definitely agree with you there.  Some people think the lyrics are all that matter in a song...but I think a song is so much more complicated than just words...or just notes and chords for that matter.

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Other Musicians / Fiona Apple
« on: April 08, 2006, 01:03:45 pm »
Quote from: "Evanescence243"
Can anybody upload any good high quality (non AVI) live performences videos? Thank you!
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sorry, can't help you there. I'm not that big of a fan --- yet. Anyone catch her on Conan last night? She played "Get Him Back."  I've never seen her perform live in person or in video, so it was pretty incredible to see.  I loved how she got so into it at the end. Conan said her tour is going to start off at the end of June this summer. Can't wait! :D

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Entertainment - Movies / TV / Books / 24
« on: April 08, 2006, 01:00:46 pm »
Quote from: "eclv"
I am so glad Edgar is gone! I couldn't stand him. Not sure how he ever got on TV, the lisp? Help me Jesus.

So true. Like the first 4 episodes, Jack solved the problem and you thought that was it and it just got worse!!

It's actually kinda funny how Jack is always yelling. I love Choloe's attitude.


haha! I never really thought about edgar, but merely accepted him. Come to think of it, he was pretty annoying.  Choloe is freakin awesome but I'm convinced she's going to turn evil in one of these seasons. oh yes. muahaha. And I'm thinking Martha's gonna throw a hissy fit when she finds out about her hubby's involvement with the terrorists.  :twisted:

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Creative Endeavors / Re: Sleepless Dream
« on: April 07, 2006, 12:55:53 am »
Quote from: "PianoGirl4444"

You're worth it, I'll handle
The pain that it takes
That only you can take away


Whoa. I love these lines.  So few words speak volumes! Awesome lyrics.

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Creative Endeavors / "The Plague"--lyrics.
« on: April 07, 2006, 12:50:30 am »
Quote from: "PianoGirl4444"
Ooh, I really like it!  For REAL.   :)

Hey thanks! I'm a little worried though it might be too melodramatic....

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Entertainment - Movies / TV / Books / Brokeback Mountain
« on: April 07, 2006, 12:48:12 am »
Quote from: "eclv"
So I watched this movie last night. Not really sure what made it so great. It was even barely ok. It was sad yeah that they couldn't be together. The best part was when Ennis' wife saw them kissing and she didn't even say anything. Man, I would have died.


crap! way to be honest. that rocks.  see, I didn't like it the first time, but the second time I cried  :cry:  boo hoo. My favorite part is probably that little tizzy when jake's character said "no TV until after you finish eating." oh and that electric knife the other family used to cut the turkey.

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Entertainment - Movies / TV / Books / 24
« on: April 07, 2006, 12:40:23 am »
oh god, I guess I gave away what happened in Monday's.  sorry! but let me know what you think. oh and thanks for the merge.  Google's made me retarded to any other search engine.

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Creative Endeavors / "The Plague"--lyrics.
« on: April 05, 2006, 05:17:45 pm »
so I finished this song a week or so ago.  Believe me when I say that I really do appreciate criticisms and advice.  Please let me know what you think! :)
oh this is about my friend who has depression....

The Plague

You caught it like a cold
And now your sadness can't be sold
No price, no happiness will save
The faded soul you gave away
Somehow you've died
But you're alive

Chorus:
You are the prey of days
    that only feed you more dismay
You are the beauty blind
Eternal darkness steals your sight

But like a thief you have conspired
You want the souls you can't desire
Their pearls for your empty chain
The plague just brings you empty pain
Somehow you've died
But you're alive

[chorus]
Bridge:

Now it seems
My empathy
Is gradually becoming
Apathy
I try to say
You have the plague
But you persist to
Waste away

congratulations! you've reached the end of the song!

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Creative Endeavors / does anyone have any good songwriting tips?
« on: April 05, 2006, 05:09:36 pm »
yea I ususally just sit down at the piano, and don't really look at it. I kinda just let my hands move around on it until something good comes out.  Then I fiddle around with that little melody and add on to it so it becomes a song.  If you're going to write a song, a key thing to concentrate on is contrast.  You don't want the whole song to sound the same.  Ways to do this are to have one chord structure for the first verse and use that chord structure for every other verse.  Then change the structure for the chorus and bridge.  The chorus is most often higher (at least voice-wise) than the verse, which further adds to the contrast and lets the listener know that, hey, this is the chorus. Lyrics? I can't give you much advice there.  When I first started writing I just wrote whatever random thought popped into my head.  But then I realized that random thoughts usually aren't very original/inventive.  And when writing a song it's essential to make your song a piece of art, not a paragraph with music in the background. a poem of sorts i guess.  Now when I write songs I figure out what the melody of the notes means.  Why I wrote the song.  Then I write about that.  For instance, I wrote this really angry melody on the piano the other day and then asked myself, "why did I write this angry song?" then I realized that it's probably because of my friend's depression that's completely changing him...and so I began the lyrics.  I focused on each line and wrote the whole song not in one day, but in about a month.  I was always thinking about it...and when a new line or that phrase I had been dying to think of popped into my head, I wrote it down.  Soon enough, it was complete. I hope that helps!

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