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General Vanessa Carlton Discussion / If you produced Vanessa....
« on: April 17, 2006, 11:40:25 pm »
That's cool. My question is, why aren't we employed to do all the promotions stuff, seeing all the "professionals" aren't doing their job? Lol.  :roll:

Dora wrote:
hey guys, I was thinking of getting a keyboard to mess around with, I use to have one when I was young, I even took classes in high school (and sucked, thus the fact I stopped playing lol) Any brand recommendations? Nothing too fancy but I wanna be able to learn vanessa songs on it  

I recently bought a Roland RD-170 which I think is fantastic. It retails at $AUD2,800 though. I would definitely go with a digital piano rather than a keyboard though. I don't like keyboards because I always run out of keys when playing my songs!!! A keyboard is alright for playing Twilight though, lol.Also keyboards don't usually have weighted keys and so the key touch is too light and it makes it harder to play a real acoustic piano. I'd advise against getting something really cheap, as apart from it sounding crap, it's unlikely to be very sophisticated in terms of polyphony, sustain, etc. If you don't have a sustain pedal, you'll run into problems making certain songs sound right. (Eg. songs like "Annie".)
In terms of sound, keyboards and digital pianos make sound when you play the keys because each note has been sampled by a piano sound (or an organ, or whatever sound you're playing with.) Each key must be sampled many times with different touches (eg. lightly playing with a soft touch, or banging on the keys Beethoven style, or inbetween), so when you play, as you don't apply the same amount of pressure to all the notes in a song, the electronic sound will recognize this accordingly. Many cheap keyboards aren't touch sensitive like this, and so if you play loudly, with lots of pressure on the keys, or softly, with not much pressure, the notes will be at the same volume- the only control over volume is the volume switch.

Hope this helps.

General Vanessa Carlton Discussion / How would you....
« on: April 16, 2006, 07:24:06 pm »
it just bothers me the way that everyone feels that everything has to be properly labeled as something, from music to people (the way they dress..act, etc) because i write music and music in general is a very close thing to me and it would bother me if one day people hear my music and say, "this is what you are" when one day i write a song that sounds nothing like the song before it, and the song before it, etc. i would hate to feel "labeled".

I can definitely relate to that.  :)

If you get notminated for an award, they're gonna need to put you in a category aren;t they?

I think most music could be put into the main categories (eg. pop, rock, alternative, hip-hop etc.) for awards without being completely defined by that genre. I mean, they have to have more broad categories; they don't usually have awards for specific genres like "Best Melodic Death Metal Album" or whatever, lol. Even in these very specific subgenres there is room to experiment and evolve. Or at least there should be. Also many  artists/bands change genres as they grow, that is if they are classified by their different albums.

General Vanessa Carlton Discussion / change of lyrics for PYHOM?
« on: April 13, 2006, 10:26:58 pm »
The Divide and Conquer version doesn't make a lot of sense to me... and it seems like it can't be just me because she changed it

General Vanessa Carlton Discussion / How would you....
« on: April 13, 2006, 07:05:11 pm »
Well I did a google image search for VC and found a pic of a man... so go figure. And he was black. (Not being racist here, just pointing out the further differences in appearance.) Lol.

The only similarity between Amy and V is the dark hair, but apart from that they are completely different in apprearance and musically.

Creative Endeavors / "The Plague"--lyrics.
« on: April 13, 2006, 05:58:06 am »
Congrats, this is good.

I LOVE the metaphor of 'The Plague'. It's excellent.

I am confused by the second verse however. What does it mean to want the souls you can't desire? Why can they not be desired? I would encourage a re-write because I do this for my own songs to make them more easily understood and therefore more accessible. BUT, please explain it, as I've only read it once. It may be just right and I've just missed it. With this deep style of writing, that is easy to do, as the lyrics are meant to be pondered, unlike a typical pop song (the audience all understands what "I love you baby and I want you back" means in the immediate sense, that is, as they are listening. Lol.)

I think the bridge is great. The chorus is well-written too, in my opinion.

Are you going to record this? If so please PM me, as I would like to listen to it. What style is it? Are you influenced by VC?

General Vanessa Carlton Discussion / How would you....
« on: April 13, 2006, 05:30:54 am »
You're welcome.  :)

Um, Vanessa and Amy both have dark hair... I didn't realize that makes artists interchangable though, lol

General Vanessa Carlton Discussion / How would you....
« on: April 13, 2006, 04:46:14 am »
And another...

VC: It’s me. It sounds like me. I have a very distinct style, and being on the piano, there’s not a lot of pianists out there that do pop or pop-rock or whatever you want to call it. So that’s going to follow me whatever direction I go in. I will be going in different directions. I feel lucky that my fans will follow me. It’s nice. I don’t know if it’s going to be trillions of people following me when I get to be 35 and I’m doing a record of waltzes, but I know that there’ll be somebody there that’s interested, and that feels good.


And Vanessa, yes I'm sure we will still be following your music when you are 35.   :)

General Vanessa Carlton Discussion / How would you....
« on: April 13, 2006, 04:35:25 am »
This is from an article on How do you take and listen to music today and kind of define your own style?
Vanessa: I think the music scene right now is kind of formulating itself, kind of morphing into something. I don't think at the moment it is really defined by one sound, which is good and bad. It can be confusing. I think that I define my own style, I don't know. I like what I like. I like the melodies that I like. I write them down and I play them for people and I think that there is definitely a classical feeling to what I do. I think that it is my own special breed of music. [/b]

I thought it was relevant. The link is

Is that a pic of Amy Lee (Evanescance) !!!????? Looks like her; it'scertainly not Vanessa! Lol.

General Vanessa Carlton Discussion / change of lyrics for PYHOM?
« on: April 13, 2006, 04:22:38 am »
It's a minor change, and the meaning stays the same, so I don't think it is a big deal. I can't wait to hear the studio version, no matter what lyrics she sings.

Introduce Yourself / I'm "New!"
« on: April 10, 2006, 02:44:23 am »
Hey! I look forward to reading your opinions in the threads.  :) Welcome

General Vanessa Carlton Discussion / Penis Bone
« on: April 08, 2006, 08:45:56 pm »
wow.... thanks for rewarding my curiousity! So it really IS a penis bone... I guess I need to brush up on my animal penis knowledge. Lol. So raccoons ALWAYS have a boner.... albeit a very bendy one...... Fascinating.

I never realized just how smooooooth Mr. Jenkins is.... hehe.

Introduce Yourself / Hey! I'm new to NESSAholics!
« on: April 08, 2006, 05:04:58 am »
Hey there. I'm pretty new too. Welcome. I'm sure you'll have fun.  :D

General Vanessa Carlton Discussion / Penis Bone
« on: April 08, 2006, 04:59:52 am »
Here is an excerpt from a great interview (JT Leroy interviewing Nessa.)

JTL: So, I want you to tell the story about how you and Stephan got together.

VC: Oh, my God! Well, we were touring together two summers ago. I remember the first time I saw him: I was, like, on the computer or something, and he was walking in on the first day of tour. He had these black shades on, like wraparound sunglasses, and he was in all black, on his cell phone, walking with that swagger he has. And I was like, "Who is this guy?" He was always really nice. He brought me flowers and welcomed me to the tour, but I just felt suspicious of men in general at that point. He was trying, but it just wasn't happening. But your book Sarah was actually the catalyst for us starting to talk and eventually getting together. He gave me a copy of it, and suddenly I realized that he wasn't just some dumb-ass lead singer.
JTL: Because he comes across like that?
MC: Because he's good-looking, and he's over six feet tall.
JTL: And dudular.
VC: [laughs] Yeah, dudular. Then he came into my dressing room once, like weeks into the tour. He handed me this white, ivory necklace with a black cord, and I was like, "What is this? Now you're giving me gifts?" And he was like, "It's a raccoon penis bone." And I was like, "What? Why are you giving me this?" And then he gave me Sarah, and it immediately made me curious and comforted that he wanted to share things with me. I just thought that was so rare for the front man of a band to do. They just tend to be really one-dimensional.
JTL: And more likely to bring in a bottle of Wild Turkey or something like that.
VC: Exactly. But he brought me a book and a penis bone, and I was like, "Okay, I'll take note of this, and perhaps I'll give him some more chances." I give you all the credit. My album should be called Harmonium by J.T. LeRoy.
JTL: [laughs] I just want a piano lesson. Do you still have the raccoon penis bone?
VC: [laughs] Of course.

I don't know if someone has already posted this, so my apologies if they have. Read the rest of the interview at:

it's from the Harmonium era. It gives great insight into Vanessa's childhood and her learning the piano.

Hehe, raccoon penis bone. How romantic.  8O
I wonder what it really was..... but let's not turn this into a discussion on the anatomy of the penis.....    :oops:  haha

I think it's cute in a quirky way :lol:

General Vanessa Carlton Discussion / rinse
« on: April 08, 2006, 01:58:20 am »
Thanks zurielshimon :)

What do you all think of these songs? I think her singing at times needed more takes. Pretty Baby was very, well, pretty, lol.  :) I'm glad she changed the lyrics in Ordinary Day. Although in the Rinse recording of that song the strings section was so much more laid back than the BNN version, which I much prefer; I thought the BNN version's string section sounded over-produced and somewhat unneccessary. I think I prefer the Rinse version of Rinse. Carnival is cool, the drum beat is very catchy, but the effect on the vocals is a bit poorly done. It's not really of a commercial standard.
I really love All I Ask, and I wonder why it didn't make it to BNN.....?

I am curious... how different do you think V's career would be if she had released Rinse instead of Be Not Nobody :?:

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