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General Vanessa Carlton Discussion / Lyric Interpretation Thread
« on: June 28, 2005, 10:44:40 am »
Paradise

once upon a year gone by
she saw herself give in
every time she closed her eyes
she saw what could have been
well nothing hurts and nothing bleeds
when covers tucked in tight
funny when the bottom drops
how she forgets to fight...to fight

and it's one more day in paradise
one more day in paradise

as darkness quickly steals the light
that shined within her eyes
she slowly swallows all her fear
and soothes her mind with lies
well all she wants and all she needs
are reasons to survive
a day in which the sun will take
her artificial light...her light

don't pretend to hold it in just let it out
don't pretend to hold it in just push it out
don't you try to hold it in just let it out and
don't you try to hold it in you hold it in

once upon a year gone by
she saw herselg give in
every time she closed her eyes
she saw what could have been

I think this song is about a woman who felt very submissive, subordinant, and spineless in the relationship she was in and when she finally breaks apart from this person her feelings are getting lower and lower than it was before because she hasn't truly found herself yet. In a way, the "paradise" is just bliss within ignorance as some would say.

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phu said:

knocked down by depression
she just wants to feel alright
but she doesn't feel anything anymore - she's artificial, a ghost
when it hurts too much, and there are no reasons to survive
she escapes in dreams of her paradise...

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clamicas said:

I remember at the dvd taping she mentioned something about this being about a friend of hers who was making lies to herself instead of facing her problems and her view over her friends point of view, something like that I don't really remember.


but as for me, I think its about depression and feeling awful and not wanting to get out of bed to actually live your life, I think thats what it is about.

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hayleyf605 said:

i love that song so much i agree with your interpretation thats what i thought

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liquidblue244 said:

I always interpreted it as a suicide attempt, or someone who cut themselves, I always link this to suicide, because it sounds like someone who tried to kill themselves and wasn't able to so they are looking back a year ago and seeing the hurt, and when she gets to a bridge it's like whoever is trying to push out the pain, possible through self-mutilation.

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General Vanessa Carlton Discussion / Re:
« on: June 28, 2005, 10:41:00 am »
What's wrong with separate ones?  Alright, I'll combine them...

http://forums.nessaholics.com/viewtopic.php?p=159014#159014

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General Vanessa Carlton Discussion / "Twilight" interpretations
« on: June 27, 2005, 05:40:26 pm »
Twilight

I was stained, with a role,
in a day not my own
but as you walked into my life
you showed what needed to be shown
and I always knew, what was right
I just didn't know that I might
peel away and choose to see
with such a different sight

and I will never see the sky the same way,
and I will learn to say good-bye to yesterday
and I will never cease to fly if held down,
and I will always reach too high cause I've seen,
cause I've seen, twilight

never cared never wanted
never sought to see what flaunted
so on purpose so in my face
couldn't see beyond my own place
it was so easy not to behold what I could hold
but you taught me I could change
whatever came within these shallow days

as the sun shines through it pushes away
and pushes ahead
it fills the warmth of blue
and leaves a chill instead and
I didn't know that I could be
so blind to all that is so real
but as illusion dies
I see there is so much to be revealed

I was stained, by a role,
in a day not my own
but as you walked into my life
you showed what needed to be shown
I always knew what was right
I just didn't know that I might
peel away and choose to see
with such a different sight

I think this song is about how perfect a relationship she had with someone was and now that it's over she has set her expectations too high to where no one can ever compare and because of this, she is alone.  Stained because it will never leave her mind that someone will never measure up.

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General Vanessa Carlton Discussion / "Paradise" interpretations
« on: June 25, 2005, 04:35:05 pm »
Paradise

once upon a year gone by
she saw herself give in
every time she closed her eyes
she saw what could have been
well nothing hurts and nothing bleeds
when covers tucked in tight
funny when the bottom drops
how she forgets to fight...to fight

and it's one more day in paradise
one more day in paradise

as darkness quickly steals the light
that shined within her eyes
she slowly swallows all her fear
and soothes her mind with lies
well all she wants and all she needs
are reasons to survive
a day in which the sun will take
her artificial light...her light

don't pretend to hold it in just let it out
don't pretend to hold it in just push it out
don't you try to hold it in just let it out and
don't you try to hold it in you hold it in

once upon a year gone by
she saw herselg give in
every time she closed her eyes
she saw what could have been

I think this song is about a woman who felt very submissive, subordinant, and spineless in the relationship she was in and when she finally breaks apart from this person her feelings are getting lower and lower than it was before because she hasn't truly found herself yet.  In a way, the "paradise" is just bliss within ignorance as some would say.

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Completely Off-Topic / LiveJournal/MySpace
« on: June 19, 2005, 07:53:03 pm »
Post your LiveJournal or MySpace if you want...

www.livejournal.com/users/cutelilmunchkin
www.myspace.com/10034638

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Creative Endeavors / Nothing
« on: June 15, 2005, 10:20:57 am »
Nothing

You contradicting bitch
You lying, selfish skank
How dare you say this to me
As if you will make it far
You say you'd hang yourself from a bar
If you were to take on my path
Well, get ready for the wrath
'Cause no one disrespects my brother
I don't care what your intentions were
Slander me all you want
I'm used to your rant
But my brother is off limits
Frankly, I'm sick and tired of all this shit
You crossed the line when you pushed my button
How your personality shifts is just puzzling to me
Your sweet and fun for one second, then you're cruelty
Everything must be about you doesn't it
You would just crumble and die if it wasn't
Oh the drama
Spare me
I stopped caring a long time ago
But yet I'm always here for you ya know
Attention must be your's
Bow down to the almighty queen of this land
For her future as she describes must be grand
A psychologist I see
Hmmm...sympathy...empathy
I don't see
Not a trace
Intelligence
I laugh with grace
Never your's
No MD for you Madame
"Oh, I know, let's talk about me."
Yeah, sick of the subject
Aren't we?
A wise woman once said,
Success does not come with money
It comes with joy
Well, you won't get the boy
You won't get the job
You won't get the place
You won't win the race
Because in the end
You are diminished
You are finished
And me?
Well maybe I don't know right now
But I will keep discovering my reasoning how
The way I want to live
What I could perhaps give
It's not all so clear ya know
I'll figure it out although
You go on with that speech
Let's just say no one can reach
Your so-called accessible "standards"
I guess that's what you like
But whatever I choose
I'll be able to see myself in the mirror
And never feel your hidden fear
At least I hope that's the reason
That you won't be anything in life with your destructive choices
You just didn't hear what I was saying
And I'll tell you exactly where you'll be in a few years
Nowhere
And what will you have achieved?
Nothing!

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Creative Endeavors / Without Judgment
« on: June 10, 2005, 05:17:01 pm »
Without Judgment

Do you know how easy it is to talk to you?
Do you know how much you do?
Create that specialty I haven't had in years
I thought that was gone -
You know the tears
It's amazing how different we truly are
But because of your open heart
We're not far
Your eyes glow like stars as you jump into the books
You say you can be there
You can stare
Right through the page and into the place
Through the text - into the race
Of words that turn into pictures and such
So vivid and real that you could touch
And I just sit there and marvel at your fascination
And you with my insanity are so patient
You listen and hear and understand
And all this drama in this land
You take it without the cheats and lies
'Cause you only "sleep with butterflies"
And I can rave and rant
And praise and vent
And you'll respond kindly
Without judgment

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Creative Endeavors / The Bait
« on: June 10, 2005, 05:16:25 pm »
The Bait

Something you need
Something you crave
Should I feed
Part 2 of what I gave?
I know it's not your bad
I set the bar
But you could've considered
I felt like litter
Make me feel that low
How do you get off?
A little courtesy perhaps?
Maybe some respect?
I know it's not forced
But "Right now"
"Tight now"
You say
You gave up when I said, "No."
A little too much though
You didn't push too far
And I thank you for that
But in some way
I still feel like crap
It's still me who's at fault
I told you it was okay
So of course you'd say
"Let's get together."
Didn't decline when I proclaimed
Givin' it up
Takin' it out
I told you my weakness
You told me nothing
Weak is me
Strong is you
I get it
So sue me
I guess I'm not cut out
No hard feelings
But the feelings were hard
Because I'm lying
"Instinct" they tell me
"Intuition" they say
If it doesn't feel right
Right away
It's not
I guess I proved I'm hot
But I feel so gross I could puke
Sickness
That's not normal if you're happy
I'm a tease
Had you on your knees
Then the other way around
Well, I did it
I'm a whore
Happy now?
Middle school title still livin'
What they told me I am
Don't I feel just great
So I guess I'll say "Good night"
Your's truly,
"The Bait"

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Creative Endeavors / The Bate
« on: May 28, 2005, 04:11:58 pm »
The Bate

Something you need
Something you crave
Should I feed
Part 2 of what I gave?
I know it's not your bad
I set the bar
But you could've considered
I felt like litter
Make me feel that low
How do you get off?
A little courtesy perhaps?
Maybe some respect?
I know it's not forced
But "Right now"
"Tight now"
You say
You gave up when I said no
A little too much though
You didn't push too far
And I thank you for that
But in some way
I still feel like crap
It's still me who is at fault
I told you it was okay
So of course you'd say
Let's get together
Didn't decline when I proclaimed
Givin' it up
Takin' it out
I told you my weakness
You told me nothing
Weak is me
Strong is you
I get it
So sue me
I guess I'm not cut out
No hard feelings
But the feelings were hard
Because I'm lying
Instinct they tell me
Intuition they say
If it doesn't feel right right away
It's not
I guess I proved I'm hot
But I feel so gross I could puke
Sickness
That's not normal if you're happy
I'm a tease
Had you on your knees
Then the other way around
Well, I did it
I'm a whore
Happy now?
Middle school title still livin'
What they told me I am
Don't I feel just great
So I guess I'll say "Goodnight"
Your's truly
"The Bate"

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Creative Endeavors / So Now What?
« on: May 28, 2005, 04:11:26 pm »
So Now What?

Sitting here in my sexy top - low cut
I wait for the phone to ring again
Everything's set but I'm in a rut
Scratching my skin to the pain
Online - getting counseling from my best friend
She's heard this all before
The second time - the second weekend
I'm sure I've become a bore
Call me a whore
What do I care?
I'm down in the trash again
Waiting for a man
How pathetic is that?!
Parents are out and I'm at home!?
Are you kidding?!
I'm fucking 18 years old
I shouldn't be here
I need to be clear
This is not my life
No one is picking up the phone
I wasted my Friday
On someone unattainable
Task uncompleted
Deleted
So now what?

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Other Musicians / Re: which album
« on: May 18, 2005, 04:00:26 am »
The Burdens of Being Upright

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Other Musicians / Re: Frou Frou
« on: May 15, 2005, 01:04:38 pm »
Pretty good.

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Other Musicians / Re:
« on: May 14, 2005, 11:28:06 am »
Ooh, I like her.

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Polls / Re:
« on: May 14, 2005, 11:22:18 am »
I love heels but just looking at those makes my feet hurt.

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Polls / Re:
« on: May 14, 2005, 11:18:06 am »
Make B-side album.

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