official *Joey wants to kill his computer* thread. HELP!

[Gina]

joey i know ur havin probs with yours but.... mine has to suck much much more.  last night this happened twice..... i would be on my computer and it was start to make this loud high pitched beeeep noise... now what the hell is that?? and it kicks me off aim about every 5 minutes.  And for the last two days, none of the pictures have been showing up on THIS website...  *throws computer out the window*

[Katia's Lover]

Macs Suck.

 :wink:

[Grakthis]

Why the hell do apps on Windows have to integrate themselves with the system? And why the hell should programs be throwing stuff in a central database (the registry)?

The integration allows a NUMBER of very useful features.  For example, it allows you to centralize security and setttings.  Which means you dont have a million little tiny databases all over your PC for each app to store its configuration info into with each one having its own security.  It makes it easy for me, as a developer, to store small bits of info on the machine.

More importantly, its one of the central driving forces to the COM object model in windows.

For those of you unfamilar with the com object model, it lets you establish an "object" on the operating system.  More often than not, the object is a set of coded methods and properties that let you do things.  for example, I have a MSSQL object on my machine.  Because that object is registered in the registry, I can send commands to that object from ANY OTHER program on my machine.  So if I built a new app, I could have it integrate with microsoft SQL server without having to know any of MSSQLs source code beyond their object model.

I agee, MACS have their place.  But it is NOT in comcercial business and application development.  It's in CAD, Graphic Design, Architecture, animation etc.  It's called a niche market for a reason.
---Andrew

[Logikal X]

Why the hell do apps on Windows have to integrate themselves with the system? And why the hell should programs be throwing stuff in a central database (the registry)?

The integration allows a NUMBER of very useful features.  For example, it allows you to centralize security and setttings.  Which means you dont have a million little tiny databases all over your PC for each app to store its configuration info into with each one having its own security.  It makes it easy for me, as a developer, to store small bits of info on the machine.

More importantly, its one of the central driving forces to the COM object model in windows.

For those of you unfamilar with the com object model, it lets you establish an "object" on the operating system.  More often than not, the object is a set of coded methods and properties that let you do things.  for example, I have a MSSQL object on my machine.  Because that object is registered in the registry, I can send commands to that object from ANY OTHER program on my machine.  So if I built a new app, I could have it integrate with microsoft SQL server without having to know any of MSSQLs source code beyond their object model.

I agee, MACS have their place.  But it is NOT in comcercial business and application development.  It's in CAD, Graphic Design, Architecture, animation etc.  It's called a niche market for a reason.
---Andrew

I know how fun it is to shove the good point of IBM's in Williams face Andrew, but hasnt it been done enough with no results? :wink:

[Grakthis]

I know how fun it is to shove the good point of IBM's in Williams face Andrew, but hasnt it been done enough with no results? :wink:

Yes.  But maybe he genuinly doesn't' know about the COM object model in Windows.  If not, then he really wouldn't understand the use of the registry.

Dammit pete! We have to stop agreeing so much lately.  This is becoming a bad habit!   :wink:
---Andrew

[Will]

Yeah... I know, there are good uses for the registry. I'm just saying, for Joe Sixpack, it's a PITA.

And I think there are better ways to do things....

[Grakthis]

Yeah... I know, there are good uses for the registry. I'm just saying, for Joe Sixpack, it's a PITA.

And I think there are better ways to do things....

Sweetie.  Don't you think if there were a better system then COM and the registry then all of those high paid harvard grads working for MS would have figured it out by now?
---Andrew

[Logikal X]

Yeah... I know, there are good uses for the registry. I'm just saying, for Joe Sixpack, it's a PITA.

And I think there are better ways to do things....

Sweetie.  Don't you think if there were a better system then COM and the registry then all of those high paid harvard grads working for MS would have figured it out by now?
---Andrew

You callin him sweetie!!! and i thought we were getting along so well! hahahaha


there is something better than COM, iits called..........






beer!!! wohooo



sorry ill get a grip on myself

[Will]

Yeah... I know, there are good uses for the registry. I'm just saying, for Joe Sixpack, it's a PITA.

And I think there are better ways to do things....

Sweetie.  Don't you think if there were a better system then COM and the registry then all of those high paid harvard grads working for MS would have figured it out by now?
---Andrew

Honestly, I have seen stuff handled better with other OS's. Ask your local Amiga, BeOS or <insert other techically awesome but dead OS> zealot for more on that, although I may not necessarily share their opinions.

And you know what, I don't care about the credentials at MS. You can be the best programmer in the world, and management borks everything over. There are more than a few disgruntled ex-MS employees in this town.....