[Us Magazine] V Backing Obama

[SadAsBlue]

^ I hope they didn't pay her. But The way I see it V's always leaned to the democratic side.  There are a lot of people out there who will choose Obama because they simply don't want to see a republican back in office.

Unfortunately in the world we live in $$$$$$ sways everything, so it could be likely.

[LimeTwister]

I'll only vote for Barack Obama if Hillary Clinton is the VP, otherwise I still stand with the millions of other women and loyal clinton supporters who will either NOT vote or will be voting for John McCain within the next few months. After all he said and put her through...I cannot easily cross the line and vote for him. I wonder if Vanessa got a nice donation like all the others who backed Obama.

Then you're not voting for Clinton based on policy.

[MyMelody]

Good for Vanessa. If she truly was a heavy Clinton supporter, then I applaud her for putting aside any petty differences and realizing that having a Republican in office would be much worse than having a Democrat whose personality seems to be the only thing keeping said "millions of Hillary supporters" from swallowing their ego and backing the party. She's voting based on policy, not based on any butthurt left over from the primaries.

[itsthefiveofus]

I love following all this president stuff. Last two times I never really cared much for it and really did not follow any of it. This time around I am much older from 2000 and see how bad Bush has put the country through, I just really want a democrat. I can't wait until I am of voting age, I just can't wait.

[LadyLavender]

I'll only vote for Barack Obama if Hillary Clinton is the VP, otherwise I still stand with the millions of other women and loyal clinton supporters who will either NOT vote or will be voting for John McCain within the next few months. After all he said and put her through...I cannot easily cross the line and vote for him. I wonder if Vanessa got a nice donation like all the others who backed Obama.

Then you're not voting for Clinton based on policy.

That's not necessarily true. Now that Obama has the Democratic Nomination he's doing and saying some funky stuff he wouldn't dare say during the primary. Like what's with the whole giving more money to private christian religious institutions?? That's some serious Bush bullshit right there.

I agree with Manda. I'm only voting Obama if he takes Clinton on as VP, which is less than likely. Otherwise, I'm voting McCain.

[Manda]

Thank you, I'm not the only one voting for John McCain. He does have experience and Barack Obama does not. That is very important to me. Barack Obama doesn't have answers or plans as to what he will do with the gas prices, jobs/unemployment, and he's already changed his statement as to when he will actually be able to pull the troops out of Iraq. Thanks but no thanks, he needs Hillary's experience and plans to bring change.

[itsthefiveofus]

Yeah my parents have been saying the same thing. If he does not bring Hillary in for VP they are just either not going to vote at all or vote for McCain. I think Obama *like you said ^* just does not have enough expierence.

[Steveau]

I'll only vote for Barack Obama if Hillary Clinton is the VP, otherwise I still stand with the millions of other women and loyal clinton supporters who will either NOT vote or will be voting for John McCain within the next few months. After all he said and put her through...I cannot easily cross the line and vote for him. I wonder if Vanessa got a nice donation like all the others who backed Obama.

I was a Hillary voter too but since Obama is now the nominee I will vote for him despite the fact that I think Hillary would have done a better job. I really don't understand the logic of a Hillary supporter voting for McCain just to protest her not getting the nomination. Do you really think she wants you to vote a Republican into office? That's the kind of logic that got us 8 years of Bush. That really bugs me about the Democrats. I believe you have to support the party over a candidate when all is said and done in the National Election. I HATED having to vote for Kerry last election but I did because there's no way I wanted a Republican to win. As Democrats, our mortal enemies should be Republicans not other Democrats that said bad things about the people we supported during the campaign. That's what happens in politics. You're not going to win by complimenting your opponents.
I would strongly urge all Hillary voters not to vote if they truly can't vote for Obama but please don't vote for McCain because that would take 2 more votes to overcome so if you do vote for him and he wins you have no right to complain about him because you got what you asked for.

[NoelleNC]

I don't exactly think McCain is the ideal candidate, but I don't think Obama will beat him and I will be pretty nervous if he does. I don't think he is necessarily ready for presidency, and I'm not sure other leaders would take him that seriously. But we'll see.

[Manda]

I'll only vote for Barack Obama if Hillary Clinton is the VP, otherwise I still stand with the millions of other women and loyal clinton supporters who will either NOT vote or will be voting for John McCain within the next few months. After all he said and put her through...I cannot easily cross the line and vote for him. I wonder if Vanessa got a nice donation like all the others who backed Obama.

I was a Hillary voter too but since Obama is now the nominee I will vote for him despite the fact that I think Hillary would have done a better job. I really don't understand the logic of a Hillary supporter voting for McCain just to protest her not getting the nomination. Do you really think she wants you to vote a Republican into office? That's the kind of logic that got us 8 years of Bush. That really bugs me about the Democrats. I believe you have to support the party over a candidate when all is said and done in the National Election. I HATED having to vote for Kerry last election but I did because there's no way I wanted a Republican to win. As Democrats, our mortal enemies should be Republicans not other Democrats that said bad things about the people we supported during the campaign. That's what happens in politics. You're not going to win by complimenting your opponents.
I would strongly urge all Hillary voters not to vote if they truly can't vote for Obama but please don't vote for McCain because that would take 2 more votes to overcome so if you do vote for him and he wins you have no right to complain about him because you got what you asked for.

It is not only because Hillary lost that I decided to vote for McCain.

lets go back in time to the Rules and Bylaws Committee meeting over Michigan and Florida, remember that? Oh yes! Obama dismissing it over and OVER again, putting his foot down so the votes would not be counted. In the end, the RBC decided to split the votes down the middle. You have got to be friggin kidding me. He pulled his name off the ballot. HRC was not stupid, she knew every vote counted and she left her name there and Obama was in a LIST of uncommitted she won 50%-33% and they split it down the middle?! And to really add to that, they TOOK FOUR OF HER DELEGATES and gave them to Barack Obama. What the hell for? So he could clinch the nomination by ONE delegate. Otherwise it would have been taken to Denver, but you know what? Obama, Osama, Odrama, has everyone in his pocket. Like Donna Brazile (a HUGE supporter of Obama) who was part of the RBC. He destroyed the party, not Hillary. She won the popular vote, she won states that mattered in the General Election and he should have pulled out. He racked up small states that won't help him in the GE and he was a good fundraiser! (Oh and he's not accepting public funding anymore, another wishy washy move from Obama)

I was disgusted by the Democratic Party and the RBC, so now I'm going to the GOP.

On Iraq, Obama said Thursday that his upcoming trip there might lead him to refine his promise to quickly remove U.S. troops from the war.

He now supports broader authority for the government's eavesdropping program and legal immunity for telecommunications companies that participated in it, supporting the bill after some protections were added.

The handgun control proponent reacted to the Supreme Court overturning the District of Columbia's gun ban by saying he favors both an individual's right to own a gun as well as government's right to regulate ownership.

Obama became the first major-party candidate to reject public financing for the general election after earlier promises to accept it.

He not only embraced but promised to expand Bush's program to give more anti-poverty grants to religious groups, a split with Democratic orthodoxy.

He objected to the Supreme Court's decision outlawing the death penalty for child rapists, drawing attention to his support for the death penalty if used only for the "most egregious" crimes.

Obama also said "mental distress" should not count as a health exception that would permit a late-term abortion, saying "it has to be a serious physical issue," addressing a matter considered crucial to abortion rights activists.

[LimeTwister]

I'll only vote for Barack Obama if Hillary Clinton is the VP, otherwise I still stand with the millions of other women and loyal clinton supporters who will either NOT vote or will be voting for John McCain within the next few months. After all he said and put her through...I cannot easily cross the line and vote for him. I wonder if Vanessa got a nice donation like all the others who backed Obama.

Then you're not voting for Clinton based on policy.

That's not necessarily true. Now that Obama has the Democratic Nomination he's doing and saying some funky stuff he wouldn't dare say during the primary. Like what's with the whole giving more money to private christian religious institutions?? That's some serious Bush bullshit right there.

I agree with Manda. I'm only voting Obama if he takes Clinton on as VP, which is less than likely. Otherwise, I'm voting McCain.

His position wasn't reported correctly.  His position WAS NOT Bush's position.  

“Now, make no mistake, as someone who used to teach constitutional law, I believe deeply in the separation of church and state, but I don’t believe this partnership will endanger that idea – so long as we follow a few basic principles. First, if you get a federal grant, you can’t use that grant money to proselytize to the people you help and you can’t discriminate against them – or against the people you hire – on the basis of their religion. Second, federal dollars that go directly to churches, temples, and mosques can only be used on secular programs. And we’ll also ensure that taxpayer dollars only go to those programs that actually work.”

http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/16056.html

You can't discredit Obama before truly understanding what he stands for.  Clinton would have had to (and has) leaned to the center in order to get votes.  Also, if you plan on voting for McCain out of spite, keep in mind the Supreme Court.  McCain is Bush's third term, and right now we're heading in the wrong direction.   The economy sucks...what's McCain's view?  The economy will heal itself.  Obama's? Work to create new jobs, especially by refocusing on our infrastructure among other things.

[tylor2000]

Consider voting for someone else other than a Democrat or Republican.  I voted for Kerry 4 years ago only in an attempt to avoid the absolute stupidity of Bush.  Other parties need the exposure even if they can't win the election.  Why vote for the two most powerful groups in America and then complain that nothing is being done?  It happens every election.

Similarly to the Clinton supporters now backing Obama because he is a democrat, I'm not voting for him because he is a democrat.

I'll consider voting for him if he supports small third party involvement, and actually practices it in this election.  In my opinion it will only enrich our political culture.  It puts proper pressure on the two main parties if only in public debate.

But yeah, Obama is a decent candidate.

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When did George Stephanopolous become a voice of unbiased reason?  Yeah right.

[LimeTwister]

I would encourage third party votes...but this election is too important.

Third parties CANNOT win the way our system is set up.  Therefore, if you just take away votes from the candidate that you agree with most.  I know it's sad, but it's true.

[fairytales]

summer plans.
i was reading magz in the hair salon yesterday.. and stumbled upon this. [:

[Steveau]

I'll only vote for Barack Obama if Hillary Clinton is the VP, otherwise I still stand with the millions of other women and loyal clinton supporters who will either NOT vote or will be voting for John McCain within the next few months. After all he said and put her through...I cannot easily cross the line and vote for him. I wonder if Vanessa got a nice donation like all the others who backed Obama.

I was a Hillary voter too but since Obama is now the nominee I will vote for him despite the fact that I think Hillary would have done a better job. I really don't understand the logic of a Hillary supporter voting for McCain just to protest her not getting the nomination. Do you really think she wants you to vote a Republican into office? That's the kind of logic that got us 8 years of Bush. That really bugs me about the Democrats. I believe you have to support the party over a candidate when all is said and done in the National Election. I HATED having to vote for Kerry last election but I did because there's no way I wanted a Republican to win. As Democrats, our mortal enemies should be Republicans not other Democrats that said bad things about the people we supported during the campaign. That's what happens in politics. You're not going to win by complimenting your opponents.
I would strongly urge all Hillary voters not to vote if they truly can't vote for Obama but please don't vote for McCain because that would take 2 more votes to overcome so if you do vote for him and he wins you have no right to complain about him because you got what you asked for.

It is not only because Hillary lost that I decided to vote for McCain.

lets go back in time to the Rules and Bylaws Committee meeting over Michigan and Florida, remember that? Oh yes! Obama dismissing it over and OVER again, putting his foot down so the votes would not be counted. In the end, the RBC decided to split the votes down the middle. You have got to be friggin kidding me. He pulled his name off the ballot. HRC was not stupid, she knew every vote counted and she left her name there and Obama was in a LIST of uncommitted she won 50%-33% and they split it down the middle?! And to really add to that, they TOOK FOUR OF HER DELEGATES and gave them to Barack Obama. What the hell for? So he could clinch the nomination by ONE delegate. Otherwise it would have been taken to Denver, but you know what? Obama, Osama, Odrama, has everyone in his pocket. Like Donna Brazile (a HUGE supporter of Obama) who was part of the RBC. He destroyed the party, not Hillary. She won the popular vote, she won states that mattered in the General Election and he should have pulled out. He racked up small states that won't help him in the GE and he was a good fundraiser! (Oh and he's not accepting public funding anymore, another wishy washy move from Obama)

I was disgusted by the Democratic Party and the RBC, so now I'm going to the GOP.

Well that's your prerogative. I agree that the Democratic Party screwed up royally when they abandoned the winner take all format that enabled Obama to win by targeting small pockets of voters just to get delegates but there's no way I would go to the GOP because it would totally go against my beliefs on many issues. Hope you enjoy your new party but I think you'll find that it isn't any better there. I don't really like Obama but I sure as hell believe that America would be better off with him than with McCain and his like.