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« Reply #15 on: July 20, 2003, 01:24:20 am »
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Wow, what a development this is. ;D I'm CONVINCED BRANCH = CARLTON.

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« Reply #16 on: July 20, 2003, 04:41:21 am »
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ummm thats kinda ridiculous lol.... and i wasnt aware that branchy played piano??


yup and she's darn good at it too!! If you have the cd(which your probably don't) she plays piano on one of these days....I have a picture of it that I'll post of her playing the piano. She can play lots of instruments...I think the hardest thing in music is learning how to read it...once you can read it goooooooooooooooooooooooo. If only I listened and learned to read the music I could have been a world famous flute player. ahhh ohh well. haha


She may be able to play piano, but she doesn't on One of These Days. Well, not according to my liner notes anyway. (Incidentally, OOTD is rapidly becoming my favourite on the CD). Although, she does look amazingly VC-like in the carnaby st. t-shirt photo...

Learning to read music is a piece of piss. Anyone can do it in a day if they want to. I mean - there's only like two essential things to learn: how to read the pitch of a note, and how to read the length of a note. All the rest is sugar coating, which you can get from recordings (or look up things as you go along). Erm, unless you meant *sight*-reading, which I would agree is freakin' difficult. But still not as hard as playing an instrument *really well*.

Anyways, this reminds me of a Beau Peep cartoon:
Beau: But for one cruel twist of fate I'd have been a concert pianist by now.
Dennis: What was that?
Beau: I can't play the piano.

Erm, it was funny in cartoon form, trust me.

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« Reply #17 on: July 20, 2003, 06:59:22 am »
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LOL, I failed. I was pretty upset, my teacher knew I was upset to, we had a long conversation and said she knew I worked really hard, but since I failed the final, I failed the class...tho I was passing until the final. I still have a chance to take it next year though, so it's ok.



awww I'm sorry but I'm sure you'll do just fine next year and pass with high honors!!!


And on the enhancement of HP she is playing the piano for One of these days. But ya I think on the album version if you just out it in your cd player and listen that isn't her playing it but in the enhanment she is. That was when she was writting it probably and she was playing the piano the way she wrote it.......it only took her 10 minutes to write the song.
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« Reply #18 on: July 20, 2003, 07:34:16 am »
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yup and she's darn good at it too!! If you have the cd(which your probably don't) she plays piano on one of these days....I have a picture of it that I'll post of her playing the piano. She can play lots of instruments...I think the hardest thing in music is learning how to read it...once you can read it goooooooooooooooooooooooo. If only I listened and learned to read the music I could have been a world famous flute player. ahhh ohh well. haha


i would have to disagree

learning the instrument and all the notes is the hardest part of music. i can read treble and bass (sorry no alto here). i dont remember it being to hard with treble (untill you get to the high g above ledger lines, and the low g below ledger lines, then i have to count), and i just learned bass within the last month.

and anyone can learn an instrument, its learning it, keeping it, and actully getting good at it.

each instrument has a differnt emboucher, a differnt want to blow air (wind instruments) a differnt way to hold your hands...not to mention the notes are differnt.

so learning the instrument is much harder in my opinion

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« Reply #19 on: July 20, 2003, 08:21:41 am »
yeah sure,

"Remember, you heard it first at the WAMBAG, bringing you the latest breaking news, as soon as it crosses our minds. This is Flaming Sheep signing off."

How about "flaming idiot?"  

Someone needs to tourch this guy......

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« Reply #20 on: July 20, 2003, 08:34:22 am »
i dont like that...MB and VC are notttttt the same, there are similarities yes, but there very different in a lot of respects.  grrrr
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« Reply #21 on: July 20, 2003, 09:12:10 am »
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I think the hardest thing in music is learning how to read it.


As a musician who plays multiple instruments, I can tell you that this is not the case. As a trumpet player, going to the sax was quite something. All of a sudden, intonation was actually worse. And if I grabbed a random musician out of my school band and asked them to play piano, they may be able to play Für Elise..... maybe. Break out that Bartök and give them a few months.... forget about it.

I play quite often with people who can't read music at all. Especially guitar players. Julian Lage is perhaps the best example I can think of. Check him out. Absolutely brillant. Can't read a note, although he is trying to learn.


UGH do you ever stop making 'intelligent point's about yourself!? its sickening! Anyway, this site is a bit silly- but i get their point.
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« Reply #22 on: July 20, 2003, 12:21:35 pm »
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how can you say thats not the case when you said for youself that this guy plays the guitar yet doesn't know how to read music? Myself in music class the hardest part for me was learning how to read the music and when I couldn't I gave up. I'm a quitter yup.


Well, think of it this way. I can read music perfectly, in treble, bass, and alto clefs. I can read several notes at the same time. It is EASY for me. However, here is someone that I can't even begin to imitate. I can read music, which you say is difficult. He can play really well, which I say is difficult.

Intonation is always harder than reading music, especially on the higher wind instruments. It is even harder on bowed string instruments. You mentioned you played flute. Ok, reading high treble clef notes. That would be easy for me. But I'll be damned if I can keep the thing in tune. Roll it in, roll it out. Heck, it changes depending on which note you play. Most people can't even hear it at first. Building that ear is, in my opinion, the hardest thing.

I guess in the end, this is all my opinion. Maybe notereading is the hardest thing for the beginner. When you get to higher levels, everything changes. The rudiments are easy, such as notereading, counting rhythm, keeping time. The challenge comes with learning where the note is in the whole piece and pulling it up or pushing it down based on that. The challenge comes with learning how to blend, not only with your section, but with your entire group. The challenge comes with dynamics and expression, using these to not just create a string of notes, but a mood.

Notereading is a given. Playing the music "correctly" (right notes, right rhythm) doesn't make it music. Giving it a feeling does that.
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« Reply #23 on: July 20, 2003, 12:27:17 pm »
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UGH do you ever stop making 'intelligent point's about yourself!? its sickening! Anyway, this site is a bit silly- but i get their point.


Ehh... I'm sorry. I don't try to be "smart" or anything like that. I just have diverse interests in many fields. Some I know a little about, some I know a lot about. Music is one of those fields where I think I know what I'm talking about.

I'm not saying "I'm smarter than all of you" or anything like that. But as a pianist of close to ten years, and as someone who plays many instruments, I have something to say on the subject. Surely I wouldn't have anything to say on the subject if all my experience with playing music was using a cassette player, correct?

You will see, I don't get into stuff I don't know much about, very much. And even then, I don't consider myself authorative. I have seen topics on dance on this forum. Have I ever replied to one? No. Even though many of my friends dance and I know a bit, I don't know enough to comment on it.

You will see with law, I know a bit, but I'm still learning. Andrew still tears my posts to pieces, occasionally, but I learn something from them. I'm still no lawyer and I never claimed to be. Therefore, I do not consider myself an authority on the matter, although I may have a few opinions that I may believe to be accurate, based on my layman's knowledge on the subject.

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« Reply #24 on: July 20, 2003, 12:30:35 pm »
Hahaha, this takes me back to the BSB vs. Nsync, Justin vs. Nick days, now you guys know how we felt, lol it's really a bitch to have to listen to, & I thought i'd get away from it with being a Vanessa Carlton fan, but boy was I wrong, terribly wrong...

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« Reply #25 on: July 20, 2003, 12:33:15 pm »
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I think the hardest thing in music is learning how to read it.


As a musician who plays multiple instruments, I can tell you that this is not the case. As a trumpet player, going to the sax was quite something. All of a sudden, intonation was actually worse. And if I grabbed a random musician out of my school band and asked them to play piano, they may be able to play Für Elise..... maybe. Break out that Bartök and give them a few months.... forget about it.

I play quite often with people who can't read music at all. Especially guitar players. Julian Lage is perhaps the best example I can think of. Check him out. Absolutely brillant. Can't read a note, although he is trying to learn.


UGH do you ever stop making 'intelligent point's about yourself!? its sickening! Anyway, this site is a bit silly- but i get their point.


LMAO@Rosie, that was funny.  :lol:

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« Reply #26 on: July 20, 2003, 03:55:36 pm »
I learned to read music in a week when I was 9.

Learning to actually play piano, clarinet, trombone, guitar...that's the hard stuff.  Give me sheet music anyday...not saying I can play it, but I can for sure tell you what it should sound like.
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« Reply #27 on: July 20, 2003, 03:56:12 pm »
But I don't read alto clef...Will's a showoff! :P <3
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« Reply #28 on: July 20, 2003, 05:00:14 pm »
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But I don't read alto clef...Will's a showoff! :P <3


Neither do most conductors. There is a joke in orchestra:

Q: "What is the difference between alto clef and Greek?"
A: "Some conductors actually know Greek."

Learning all the clefs is quite easy if you know which clef is which letter. Then you just know which line it is centered on.

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« Reply #29 on: July 20, 2003, 05:28:15 pm »
I read alto clef 'cause I play viola.

Does this make me cool? I hope so.

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