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Do you believe in him?

yes
27 (71.1%)
no
6 (15.8%)
maybe
4 (10.5%)
Skeptical
1 (2.6%)
other
0 (0%)

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Voting closed: January 02, 2004, 09:00:57 pm

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« Reply #135 on: January 08, 2004, 06:58:34 pm »
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If you KNEW this poll was going to start with a debate.....why did you come in...blah blah blah...

Debates aren't a bad thing. It's fun to pseudo-intellectualize and you always learn something you never knew previously. It's not as if anybody is throwing insults around. Besides, it's obvious from your history and this simplistic poll (that's been done many times before in one way or another) that you only started this thread to cause arguments anyway. You're now irrelevant to this thread except for being the troll that created it in vain.

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« Reply #136 on: January 08, 2004, 06:58:49 pm »
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I think that's the smartest thing you've ever said......


I'm so lost...
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but listen you sound a bit selfish judging god...


i don't care for debates anymore (obviously you being in here proves my point) ...if i learn anything..its the fact that people get too barbaric around here..and we all know this discussion on god isn't going anywhere nor will change anyones beliefs...so why the heck must you go on..
.I already understand everything..i just  don't care to listen to this esp from people who argue about cows etc.. :roll:

I believe in Jesus Christ..and he's the only one i am agreeing with right now
maybe some of you don't but i do...and i always will..no debate isn't going to change that or anything else for that matter


I agree with you Jen, very much!

I really am feeling what you are saying, I do believe in him and I am agreeing with him right now too!

Right on Jen!!!!!!

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« Reply #137 on: January 09, 2004, 01:24:36 am »
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.. :mrgreen: god still loves me

Indeed. Even trolls can't escape that.

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I'm so lost...
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It means he has you on ignore.

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« Reply #138 on: January 09, 2004, 08:01:54 am »
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« Reply #139 on: January 09, 2004, 08:37:46 am »
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Ah, I get you. The way I see it is that the tree wasn't evil in itself, only the action of eating from it against God's will. The evil was within Adam as a free agent and would be present with or without the tree. So why not place it? To not place it would just be God kidding himself that Adam would obey His command. Also the tree wasn't all that dangerous when viewed within Christianity's big picture. From the beginning God always intended to atone for that first sin and every sin since through Christ's crucifixion and ressurection. This atonement applies to all who want it, both those before and those after Christ's sacrafice. The atonement doesn't depend upon ourselves other than to take it or refuse it, so we can't spoil it again with our actions as Adam and Eve did. Instead it depends upon the grace and faithfulness of God. The danger of the tree (and all sin, for which the tree was a picture) is gone when viewed in the light of the Gospel later on. Like Will said in another thread, most people attempt to interpret Christianity with the (non-Christian) view that this life is all there is, and all that God has for us. When taken out of context like that things get messed up.


So are you suggesting that God, from day one, intended for mankind to fall so that he could give us the choice of following his son thousands of years down the road?  So it was all just a setup for AD?  Everything that happened in BC was just backplot?

Even if we assume that Adam had the capability for evil inside himself, if you don't give him an obvious instrument then he wont chose the evil.  Make his wife have a smokin body, his food tasty, and the sex satisfying and Adam wouldn't ever feel a need to sin!  But oh no, God had to give Adam a MEANS to act out.  and OF COURSE the woman has to stir up trouble.

If you take the PoV that God always intended for mankind to have to spend it's live attoneing(sp?) (which is what most christians believe) then what in Gods name are we atoneing for?!?  We didn't do anything wrong! God did! It was his or her plan for Adam in the first place!

I cannot satisfactorily come up with a view of Heaven that satisfies my mortal mind and I refuse to believe that God would create us "in his image" without the ability to experience and understand God him or herself and without the ability to understand God's gift to us in the afterlife.  Why tell us about heaven but not give us the ability to appreciate what he is telling us?

It just doesn't make sense.  Which is why I refuse to ASSUME there is something waiting for me after death.  I am personally a huge fan of the notion of reincarnation, but I have no basis to believe this other than hope.
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« Reply #140 on: January 09, 2004, 08:43:53 am »
Reincarnation kicks ass!  I wish i could believe in it
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« Reply #141 on: January 09, 2004, 08:53:31 am »
I am religious yes, my family are christians and I have been brought up that way. But I think when people say u have to belive in God are wrong. Everyone should believe in who or what they want, it's what makes us different. I used to have my doubts, but now I do believe. And for me it's nice to know someone up above is looking out for me!
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« Reply #142 on: January 09, 2004, 11:21:49 am »
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Indeed. Even trolls can't escape that.

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I think that's the smartest thing you've ever said......


I'm so lost...
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It means he has you on ignore.

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oh please
i am not a troll....


and whatever andrew can ignore the pope...i still won't  give a damn but i know one thing..i'm tired of seeing him talk out of his ass..it gets old

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« Reply #143 on: January 09, 2004, 11:40:21 am »
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I agree with you today Andrew, It doesnt get any more intelligent than that[/quote]

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« Reply #144 on: January 09, 2004, 12:09:00 pm »
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pete shutup for once PLEASE because you really don't know me...[/quote]



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« Reply #145 on: January 09, 2004, 12:34:16 pm »
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I agree with you today Andrew, It doesnt get any more intelligent than that


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Of course i won't[/quote]

maybe you should start working on that ..then maybe..just maybe i wouldn't be so bitchy...."think about it"

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« Reply #146 on: January 09, 2004, 12:42:47 pm »
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Of course i won't


maybe you should start working on that ..then maybe..just maybe i wouldn't be so bitchy...."think about it"[/quote]'


I dont know what you're talking about, i never talk to you.  Its hard to be bitchy to someone who doesnt really take anything you say into consideration
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« Reply #147 on: January 09, 2004, 12:47:20 pm »
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Of course i won't


maybe you should start working on that ..then maybe..just maybe i wouldn't be so bitchy...."think about it"
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whatever WHATEVER WHATEVER
obviously you don't get the point.. i don't have time for this ...
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« Reply #148 on: January 09, 2004, 12:52:03 pm »
Of course how could i forget, you are a busy individual with no time to bicker online [/sarcasm]
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« Reply #149 on: January 09, 2004, 02:29:54 pm »
lol
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