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« on: January 20, 2004, 07:23:19 am »
Ok...... so I am looking for some assistance here.

Has anyone on here experienced a problem with alcoholism in their family or with their friends?  If so, does anyone have stories about how things got better or worse?

I am in the middle of dealing with a situation where someone very important to me has a close friend who is an un-admited alcoholic.  And i think this someone is helping to enable her friend.  Well, this someone has turned to me for help because she's having a real hard time dealing with it and she doesn't know what to do.

I have done some research on the subject, and that is all well and good, but hearing personal stories of sucess or failure would really help me figure out what the next step is.

If you don't feel comfortable posting it on the MB then you can send it to me in a PM or even e-mail me off the MB at andrew at grakthis dot com (spelled out to avoid spambots).

Anything is appreciated.


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Re: Alcoholism
« Reply #1 on: January 20, 2004, 07:27:00 am »
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Anything is appreciated.


Anything?? You won't bite off my head? o.O Wow.... Sorry to hear about the situation.... I hope everything turns out well. I've never personally dealt with alcoholism in any way, I suppose I'm of no help.

I'm sorry Andrew.
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Re: Alcoholism
« Reply #2 on: January 20, 2004, 07:35:22 am »
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Anything is appreciated.


Anything?? You won't bite off my head? o.O Wow.... Sorry to hear about the situation.... I hope everything turns out well. I've never personally dealt with alcoholism in any way, I suppose I'm of no help.

I'm sorry Andrew.
*hug*


Strangely enough, Mal, I don't just randomly yell at people for no reason  :wink:
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Re: Alcoholism
« Reply #3 on: January 20, 2004, 07:44:48 am »
;) Ha ha, I suppose this is right.

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Strangely enough, Mal, I don't just randomly yell at people for no reason  :wink:


.... They just gotta speak first. THEN you randomly yell at them. hee hee ;)

Anyhow, I'll try to keep this thread clean for you so you don't gotta scroll through a whole buncha posts to get to what you are lookin' for.... Again, I hope everything turns out okay.

Uhmm... well I think alcoholism is a control issue. Sorta like anorexia... If they can't control anything else, they can control their feelings by manipulating them with alcohol.... But like I said before, I haven't had to ever deal with it in my life on a personal scale, meaning myself or friends or family. (Not to say that my family is perfect... I just don't live close enough to them or I'm not close to them.) So my thoughts probably aren't worth more then half a cent... Comparing to the normal two.

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« Reply #4 on: January 20, 2004, 07:59:24 am »
I'll pm you later. alcoholism and drug abuse is something I tend to know a lot about.. not my greatest feature but if you need me I've been on all sides of that fence.

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« Reply #5 on: January 20, 2004, 08:35:28 am »
Nothing makes it easier to not drink than a cute girl at your side(noelle)....Uhm, thats about all i can think of hehe.  But seriously nothing really helps more significantly than feeling cared for.   Most importantly just keeping yourself busy.  Getting a good entertaining hobby to keep your mind off of the addiction is always a solid lead.   I would say get your friend some kickass video games or a date, or if they are the type even some good novels...And if you can convince them they do have a problem AA meetings are effective and thats why the organisation has been running so strong for so many years  :wink:


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« Reply #6 on: January 20, 2004, 08:58:00 am »
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Nothing makes it easier to not drink than a cute girl at your side(noelle)....Uhm, thats about all i can think of hehe.  But seriously nothing really helps more significantly than feeling cared for.   Most importantly just keeping yourself busy.  Getting a good entertaining hobby to keep your mind off of the addiction is always a solid lead.   I would say get your friend some kickass video games or a date, or if they are the type even some good novels...And if you can convince them they do have a problem AA meetings are effective and thats why the organisation has been running so strong for so many years  :wink:


Well..... the issue is, she refuses to acknowledge that she has a problem.  If she knew it was a problem then we could get her to AA and she could work on it.

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Re: Alcoholism
« Reply #7 on: January 20, 2004, 09:40:11 am »
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Uhmm... well I think alcoholism is a control issue. Sorta like anorexia... If they can't control anything else, they can control their feelings by manipulating them with alcohol


i watched my friend struggle with anorexia for three years. it is partially to do with contol, and i guess drug abuse and alcoholism are pretty similar. I hope your friend gets better. Sorry im no help, i only know about self-harm and anorexia and a little about bulima. Jo x x x

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« Reply #8 on: January 20, 2004, 10:29:04 am »
I think the first thing to help is realizing that no amount of research is going to fix the problem. Asking for advice, like you're doing is the best thing. Even though I've never experienced alcoholism with anyone before, my best friend was really in to cutting when we were freshmen. I wanted to help her so desperatly, and after a huge fight in the library I figured out how I could help: by leaving it up to her. After a while she figured out that what she was doing was hurting everyone, and she got help.

Obviously, alcoholism is completely different than cutting, but one way is to tell that person how much they are hurting not only themselves, but everyone around them, and then leave the decision up to them. Let them know that you will always be there for support, but only when they decide to take it. The only way they're going to quite drinking is if they make the decision themselves, nothing you or anyone else does can really fix that.

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« Reply #9 on: January 20, 2004, 11:12:44 am »
My Dad was hospitalized numerous times for alcohol. He always drank too much, and he used to be drunk and scream at my brothers and me when we were around 5 or 6. He ended up going in the hospital a year or two ago when his problem got so bad he couldn't stomach anything but alcohol. So doctors told him that if he continued drinking at the rate he had been, he'd die.

And that's all.

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« Reply #10 on: January 20, 2004, 12:29:35 pm »
My grandpa died from it (so I never got to meet him :() , and I think his brothers suffered with it too.  A great uncle of mine was an alcoholic (or is because they say you never stop from being addicted or something?).  I think one of my brothers is an alcoholic.

But I can't really give stories.

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« Reply #11 on: January 20, 2004, 04:35:16 pm »
Yeah... my brother is an alcoholic/drug addict  :cry:

He's in REALLY bad shape, so it's a failure. He's been drinking for about 6 years, but when the drugs started it got REALLY bad! My parents have tried everything with him, numerous rehabs, family groups, talking to professionals, etc. but nothing works! He cant spend 2 hours by himself otherwise he'd kill himself. He has 2 DUIs. He's almost died from car accidents and overdoses too many times to count. It's seriously a miracle he's still alive today. He's 20 now, so my parents cant control him anymore, but the court is FINALLY starting to realise he's a problem. They've been holding him in a pshyc ward for over a month now till his trial. So we'll see what happens...
My parents have pretty much given up on him so it's like he's not even in our family anymore. All he does is cuss and threaten to sue us if we try to help him.

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« Reply #12 on: January 20, 2004, 04:38:55 pm »
ok...*random* but omg, sorry if i missed something, but whats w/ the jolly branchers thing.........i DID miss something, obviously, and its freaking me out... 8O  :lol:

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« Reply #13 on: January 20, 2004, 04:40:36 pm »
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ok...*random* but omg, sorry if i missed something, but whats w/ the jolly branchers thing.........i DID miss something, obviously, and its freaking me out... 8O  :lol:


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« Reply #14 on: January 20, 2004, 04:43:43 pm »
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ok...*random* but omg, sorry if i missed something, but whats w/ the jolly branchers thing.........i DID miss something, obviously, and its freaking me out... 8O  :lol:


http://forums.nessaholics.com/viewtopic.php?t=5010

lol, thank you :oops: