German

[joann]

you know all the words
very good!

lmao

[Manda]

no german in me.

 

[rosieposy87]

If you really want to discuss this I think you are missing the point entirely. I am Italian. (I know you don't care.) Both set of grandparents came to America at the turn of the 20th century. They came with nothing. And they worked to make a better life for themselves, their families, their neighborhood, their town/city. They left family behind that they never saw again. My maternal grandfather was a tailor. My paternal grandfather worked on the railroads. My aunts were seamstresses in the garment district until they retired. My uncles were cops, firefighters, factory workers. One was a shoe maker. They helped MAKE America. I am proud of them. They were Americans because they wanted to be, they chose to be, they earned it. They gave as much as they got. I am sure the same can be said for many other countries. If there were more people around like that today the WORLD would be a better place. But you don't have to care.

So when I say I'm an American and make reference to my heritage it is because I recognize that I have not earned it. I'm American because I was born here. That in and of itself does not make me proud. And that should not offend you.

And what about my many neighbors who are not citizens? They live here. Are they Americans? They come to work or go to school. But they don't want to be Americans. Should I tell them to be proud?

So excuse me if I want you to know what kind of American I am.
And since I AM here I'll keep trying to make a positive impact on my family and neighborhood and town/city. Then I can be proud to call myself an American, because it's what I do, not where I am. In the mean time I will honor my lineage because if you forget where you came from you may forget where you are going.

Now get back to the music people...

 I accept your point- what i don't accept is that it is different for any other country. You even said that its the case in many other countries. My parents do the same, my grandparents did the same- except my country's history goes back much further so its not easy to see the foundations of England. So what really gets me is Americans who claim it often and claim it like they have some special right to something- when it is no different for any other country in the world.  People all over the world start anew in a country with no one on a daily basis but they don't rant and rave about their 'roots'.

[TSE]

I wanna see Rosie move here, have kids, and ask them.

[BWilli]

oooooooooo......so much tension in this thread....

anywho...I don't believe there is any German in my heritage....

Italian, Scottish, and English is about it for me....probably a little Irish too....

[rosieposy87]

I wanna see Rosie move here, have kids, and ask them.

But i'm never moving there, so its not a problem.

[Grakthis]

I wanna see Rosie move here, have kids, and ask them.

But i'm never moving there, so its not a problem.

Rosie hates us

[BWilli]

I wanna see Rosie move here, have kids, and ask them.

But i'm never moving there, so its not a problem.

Rosie hates us

it's not us Americans she hates...it's just the country we live in  :razz:

[Logikal X]

I wanna see Rosie move here, have kids, and ask them.

But i'm never moving there, so its not a problem.

Rosie hates us

Yeah she told us to be proud to be Americans, but she wouldnt be a proud American  :razz:

[rosieposy87]

I wanna see Rosie move here, have kids, and ask them.

But i'm never moving there, so its not a problem.

Rosie hates us

Yeah she told us to be proud to be Americans, but she wouldnt be a proud American  :razz:

I just believe in patriotism so strongly, i'm so proud of the country that i live in that i can't imagine why anyone wouldn't be.

[Logikal X]

I wanna see Rosie move here, have kids, and ask them.

But i'm never moving there, so its not a problem.

Rosie hates us

Yeah she told us to be proud to be Americans, but she wouldnt be a proud American  :razz:

I just believe in patriotism so strongly, i'm so proud of the country that i live in that i can't imagine why anyone wouldn't be.

thats cool, im more proud of my family and friends and good people ive met along the way.  Im too pessimistic to be proud of any society as a whole, people are cruel

[Grakthis]

I wanna see Rosie move here, have kids, and ask them.

But i'm never moving there, so its not a problem.

Rosie hates us

Yeah she told us to be proud to be Americans, but she wouldnt be a proud American  :razz:

I just believe in patriotism so strongly, i'm so proud of the country that i live in that i can't imagine why anyone wouldn't be.

Right.  Cause England hasn't subjugated, oppressed, invaded or molested every nation in the world at some point in it's history.  :wink:  /trolling

[rosieposy87]

I wanna see Rosie move here, have kids, and ask them.

But i'm never moving there, so its not a problem.

Rosie hates us

Yeah she told us to be proud to be Americans, but she wouldnt be a proud American  :razz:

I just believe in patriotism so strongly, i'm so proud of the country that i live in that i can't imagine why anyone wouldn't be.

Right.  Cause England hasn't subjugated, oppressed, invaded or molested every nation in the world at some point in it's history.  :wink:  /trolling

And i still love it! Now isn't that patriotism for you?

P.S You're one to talk!

[Grakthis]

I wanna see Rosie move here, have kids, and ask them.

But i'm never moving there, so its not a problem.

Rosie hates us

Yeah she told us to be proud to be Americans, but she wouldnt be a proud American  :razz:

I just believe in patriotism so strongly, i'm so proud of the country that i live in that i can't imagine why anyone wouldn't be.

Right.  Cause England hasn't subjugated, oppressed, invaded or molested every nation in the world at some point in it's history.  :wink:  /trolling

And i still love it! Now isn't that patriotism for you?

P.S You're one to talk!

Hey now, the US has done a lot of stuff wrong... but we can't hold a CANDLE to England.

Do the math on how many nations have had to revolt and declare their independance from England.  Now do the same for the US.  Now compare those numbers

Granted, England has had a few more years in which to screw up.....

[rosieposy87]

I wanna see Rosie move here, have kids, and ask them.

But i'm never moving there, so its not a problem.

Rosie hates us

Yeah she told us to be proud to be Americans, but she wouldnt be a proud American  :razz:

I just believe in patriotism so strongly, i'm so proud of the country that i live in that i can't imagine why anyone wouldn't be.

Right.  Cause England hasn't subjugated, oppressed, invaded or molested every nation in the world at some point in it's history.  :wink:  /trolling

And i still love it! Now isn't that patriotism for you?

P.S You're one to talk!

Hey now, the US has done a lot of stuff wrong... but we can't hold a CANDLE to England.

Do the math on how many nations have had to revolt and declare their independance from England.  Now do the same for the US.  Now compare those numbers

Granted, England has had a few more years in which to screw up.....

Ahhh Grakky's potted history of the world makes another appearance.