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« Reply #15 on: January 16, 2005, 07:50:57 pm »
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I'M A KAPPA ALPHA THETA!!! YAY!
they've been my first choice since i started college, so I couldnt be happier! this is seriously the best day ever!


congrats!!!

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« Reply #16 on: January 16, 2005, 10:02:35 pm »
YAY HOLLY!!!!

Hope you have a blast!!! :D

Things are going crazy and I'm not sure who to blame...
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« Reply #17 on: January 16, 2005, 10:47:26 pm »
I seriously love my sisters. They're the best girls in the entire world! So sweet, down to earth, fun loving, etc. I couldnt be prouder to be a Theta baby (thats what they call us new members). These girls are soooo welcoming to me and my pledge sisters, showering us with presents, hugs and smiles. These girls are definitely going to pull me out of my shell, they're crazy (in a good way) and outgoing... when i'm with them I feel I can let loose, dance, sing, shout, etc.  :D
Sheryl Crow, Amy Grant and Laura Bush are just a few of my sisters, haha, thats weird to say!
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« Reply #18 on: January 17, 2005, 02:00:50 pm »
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Ugh.  Pathetic.

Don't you find it depressing that you have to buy your friends?

The entire greek system is a sign of the decline of social interaction in our society.


ok... that was rude.
first of all, i have tons of friends outside of the system, so no, i don't have to buy my friends.
obviously you don't know that at my school we are required to live on campus, and sorority and fraternity housing is way cheaper than the dorms I live in now. So really... i'd be saving money. And on top of saving money I'd be living with a bunch of people I have things in common with and doing fun things... while making lifelong friends in the process. is that so depressing?


Yes.  It is.

You are still paying money to be a part of a social group that you would otherwise not be allowed to be a part of.

Hence, you are purchasing friends.

There was a time when people used to make their OWN friends.  And then WITH those friends they would organize social events and invite OTHER friends to them.

Some people still live that way.

Others join the AOL of the social world, the greek system.

YAY FOR NEVER REALLY TAKING RISKS IN LIFE! WOOO HOOO!

The good news is, every time I meet a frat boy or sorrority girl, I can feel confident that he or she will someday be delivering my pizza.
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« Reply #19 on: January 17, 2005, 02:02:34 pm »
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Yeah... sororities arent for most people. They get a bad rep at a lot of schools, but my school is different I swear. All the girls in each house are dedicated to the philantrophy (or cause) that they support. It's not about social, i'm a sorority girl at all, seriously. It's basically for the purpose of bonding over the cause you support and making life long friends/sisters.



HAHAHAHAHAHAH!

If I had a dollar for every time I heard a sorrority girl justify her decision this way, I'd be a RICH man!

BUT OF COURSE! THEY ARE ALL DIFFERENT! AND NOT LIKE OTHER GREEKS!

HAHAHAHAHAHaH!
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« Reply #20 on: January 18, 2005, 12:31:17 am »
wow, andrew, you are the most naive person i have ever met in my entire life when it comes to this, haha, i thought a lot of other people were bad... you take the cake hun.
you obviously have NO IDEA what you are talking about. I AM SAVING MONEY BY BEING IN A SORORITY SINCE THE OTHER LIVING OPTIONS ARE MORE EXPENSIVE! That was an incentive for me to join. Rather than living in the crappy dorms, next year I'll get to live in a mansion, with a maid, a cook and my best friends. Who wouldnt take that up? Plus, I've always wanted sisters... now I have them. They are so welcoming and sweet. One of them even drove 90 miles for me yesterday. Theyve been there for me even before i rushed them. The first day of moving in... they were there carrying boxes and talking to me. That's the kind of girls my thetas are and I love and adore them. So dont you even think about putting them down, cause it pisses me off!
Oh, and you'll be ordering pizza from me? Do you order pizza from Laura Bush or Sheryl Crow? Nope. They're my sisters... would you be confident that they'd be bringing you pizza?
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« Reply #21 on: January 18, 2005, 06:36:53 am »
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wow, andrew, you are the most naive person i have ever met in my entire life when it comes to this, haha, i thought a lot of other people were bad... you take the cake hun.
you obviously have NO IDEA what you are talking about. I AM SAVING MONEY BY BEING IN A SORORITY SINCE THE OTHER LIVING OPTIONS ARE MORE EXPENSIVE! That was an incentive for me to join. Rather than living in the crappy dorms, next year I'll get to live in a mansion, with a maid, a cook and my best friends. Who wouldnt take that up? Plus, I've always wanted sisters... now I have them. They are so welcoming and sweet. One of them even drove 90 miles for me yesterday. Theyve been there for me even before i rushed them. The first day of moving in... they were there carrying boxes and talking to me. That's the kind of girls my thetas are and I love and adore them. So dont you even think about putting them down, cause it pisses me off!
Oh, and you'll be ordering pizza from me? Do you order pizza from Laura Bush or Sheryl Crow? Nope. They're my sisters... would you be confident that they'd be bringing you pizza?


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Do you even know what the word Naive means?  Because given your usage here, I highly doubt it.  It doesn't even fit in this discussion.

And you still haven't changed the fact that you pay dues and are told what you can and cannot do by your greek system.  You still haven't addressed that fact that as part of your dues you inherit friends.  You still havent' addressed that there is NOTHING a Greek system provides you that you cannot get for FREE with a good group of friends.

In fact, you didn't address 90% of what I said.  Well done.  Apparently they teach you debat in the Greek system as well.

So, my point still stands.  Sororities and Frats are a waste of valuable human resources.  They are a drain on our social skills and our cash.  They produce bad people, instill bad ideals, and feed on the weak.  Oh sure, you can give me your humanitarian activites BS all you want.  But you and I both know that's the BS they force you to do so they get a better public image to counterbalance all the bad shit they do.  I went to college sweet heart.  All my friends went to college.  At many universities across the US.  I remember what the greeks were like.

Greek systems are still pathetic and sad.  And it's still true that most people I know who went into the greek system amounted to nothing in their lives.

Obviously, delivering pizzas is hyperbole, but I'd hardly say Laura Bush or Sheryl Crow have made much for themselves based on their intellect.  Those are really bad examples for you cause.

Also, key in on the word I used.  "MOST."  One of my closest friends is in a Sorority and both my parents went through the Greek system.  Obviously, there are exceptions to any generalization.  But they are a very small minority.

Edit:  Also, line breaks make reading your posts much better.  Paragraphs are really really neat.  Oh wait, I guess your in a sorority now.... the rules of grammer go out the door.  Like, OMFG! WOW!
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« Reply #22 on: January 18, 2005, 10:05:08 am »
Andrew, whats the point in being mean about this? Holly has clearly found something really positive in her life and if she is happy, then why should we criticise it?I accept that maybe it is a plus to point out the detrimental effects of the Greek system- but do you have to do it in such a manner? Its not going to change her mind, is it? Even if it did, you'd only be making her unhappy because she'd be disillusioned about something she really loves.

So maybe as an adult you should pick your battles. And not go around fighting teenagers on petty issues.
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« Reply #23 on: January 18, 2005, 10:20:01 am »
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« Reply #24 on: January 18, 2005, 09:40:56 pm »
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Edit:  Also, line breaks make reading your posts much better.  Paragraphs are really really neat.  Oh wait, I guess your in a sorority now.... the rules of grammer go out the door.  Like, OMFG! WOW!


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« Reply #25 on: January 19, 2005, 01:03:13 am »
in the words of Vanessa Carlton:

"Who's to say we won't stay together?
Who's to say we arn't getting stronger?
Who's to say I can live without you?
Who are they anyway? Anyway they don't know
And you say we're too young, but maybe you're too old to remember
And I try to pretend, but I just feel it when we're together
Who is to say?
And who is to say?
And who are they anyway?"

The point being... you have no right to criticize me or my decision in doing this. its a cheaper living situation for me so i'm saving money by doing so. these girls chose ME to be one of them out of many girls... which obviously means that we have a lot in common and will get along. ive had a bad roommate expirience so i will do anything to avoid that again. these girls have my back and i have their's. i could use a support system like that right now. ive never really had the ideal siblings, now i have many amazing sisters.
now what about you, Andrew? i said how happy this made me and how much i wanted it, and then you go and put it down. that's really rude, you have a problem hun. do you get satisfaction from putting what people love down when you dont know what you're talking about? you can't understand my position on this, each sorority, each situation is unique. i hate people who pretend to know everything but really know nothing. maybe you know about the reputation the greek system as a whole has, but you know NOTHING about my relationship with mine and my main reasons to choose it.
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« Reply #26 on: January 19, 2005, 01:04:54 am »
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Edit:  Also, line breaks make reading your posts much better.  Paragraphs are really really neat.  Oh wait, I guess your in a sorority now.... the rules of grammer go out the door.  Like, OMFG! WOW!


DING DING DING!


this is a thing called a message board, i really could care less about my grammer.
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« Reply #27 on: January 19, 2005, 07:00:27 am »
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Andrew, whats the point in being mean about this? Holly has clearly found something really positive in her life and if she is happy, then why should we criticise it?I accept that maybe it is a plus to point out the detrimental effects of the Greek system- but do you have to do it in such a manner? Its not going to change her mind, is it? Even if it did, you'd only be making her unhappy because she'd be disillusioned about something she really loves.

So maybe as an adult you should pick your battles. And not go around fighting teenagers on petty issues.


She's an adult.  This is two adults having a disagreement.  And my "manner" isn't really defined by who I am discussing this with.  I am vehemantly opposed to the greek system regardless of who I am talking to.

Either way, I'm not really arguing with Holly to cure Holly of this.  I am more doing so to show everyone else reading just how completely the Greek system absorbs and twists people.  It's sad and it's bad for the world at large.

Rosie, let me put it this way.  You know how Bush got elected?  Because young people band together and all just decide to follow whatever their "organization" decides to follow.  The majority of Greek organizations are VERY conservative, politcally.  Greeks vote overwhelmingly in favor of Bush.

That's becuse they do not encourage free thought.  They encourage everyone to band together for the good of the "frat" or "sorority."  And who do you think sets the policies of the greek systems?

Everyone put on their jack boots and fall in line!

It's my very political system I am fighting for here.  Any group that discourages development of Americas youth as free thinking, socially capable, adults is a BAD THING.

I know girls who are EXTREMELY liberal if you sit them down and actually get their opinions on things... but by God they are registered republicans and they vote for every republican.... without even actually knowing what they stand for.  Coincidentally, these girls are all in sororities.
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« Reply #28 on: January 19, 2005, 07:09:40 am »
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The point being... you have no right to criticize me or my decision in doing this. its a cheaper living situation for me so i'm saving money by doing so. these girls chose ME to be one of them out of many girls... which obviously means that we have a lot in common and will get along. ive had a bad roommate expirience so i will do anything to avoid that again. these girls have my back and i have their's. i could use a support system like that right now. ive never really had the ideal siblings, now i have many amazing sisters.
now what about you, Andrew? i said how happy this made me and how much i wanted it, and then you go and put it down. that's really rude, you have a problem hun. do you get satisfaction from putting what people love down when you dont know what you're talking about? you can't understand my position on this, each sorority, each situation is unique. i hate people who pretend to know everything but really know nothing. maybe you know about the reputation the greek system as a whole has, but you know NOTHING about my relationship with mine and my main reasons to choose it.


That's lovely.

I'm sure you are a unique and beautiful snowflake.  Everything about you and your situation and your sorority is different.  Your sisters are different.  Your organization is different.  It's all new and unique.

It sure hasn't occured 500 million times with 500 million girls and those 500 million girls SURE didn't believe that they were unique and beautiful snowflakes as well.

This is an interesting quality I find in some women.  They consistantly think that somehow THIS TIME things will be different.

It's why they go back to abusive husbands.

Good luck with that.

Also, I don't care if you're writing on a bathroom wall.  If you want people to read it, then you have to make it READABLE.  It's a sign of your intelligence.  Poor writing or organization diminishes the validity of your point.

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« Reply #29 on: January 19, 2005, 12:47:28 pm »
yeah, i'm done. i can tell it's totally pointless to have an argument with you.

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