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« Reply #435 on: April 20, 2005, 08:47:42 pm »
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whats the 411 on Papa Bea? :D


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« Reply #436 on: April 20, 2005, 08:52:59 pm »
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i can see that this sheet music has 6 flats to it, and the most flats a chord can have is 5. and where is the rest of the music? what about the lyrics that go to it? where's the rest of the music to PAPA? all i know that this song is in a Minor Key. if anyone knows, then can you tell me? it would be appreciated.

and can someone do me another favor? whoever posted the first page to 'Where The Streets Have No Name', can you please post the rest of the sheet music? it would be greatly appreciated, b/c i think that the piano music in that song is phenomenal. [and rapid]


Why are you so demanding?

Why do you say that the most flats a chord can have is 5?

The song is in Dorian mode, not Minor. But that's maybe more advanced theory than you know.

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« Reply #437 on: April 20, 2005, 09:13:22 pm »
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i can see that this sheet music has 6 flats to it, and the most flats a chord can have is 5.


Although uncommon in pop music, there are chords that have 5+ flats in them from time to time. However, this is irrelevant. You are talking about key signatures. Six flats is a pefectly acceptible key signature. Hell, sometimes I see music with seven sharps or seven flats!

Why don't you actually read a introductory music theory book? This is the type of thing that is supposed to be covered in the first year of studying music. You really aught not to be correcting someone about something you obviously have no real background in.
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« Reply #438 on: April 21, 2005, 01:21:37 am »
Modes of the major scale
Ionian Dorian Phrygian Lydian Mixolydian Aolian Locrian

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« Reply #439 on: April 21, 2005, 05:12:18 am »
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i can see that this sheet music has 6 flats to it, and the most flats a chord can have is 5.

You are talking about key signatures. Six flats is a pefectly acceptible key signature. Hell, sometimes I see music with seven sharps or seven flats!

Exactly. Although that is the key signature for E(b?)m Dorian, it is also the key signature for Bbm. This isn't weird at all.
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« Reply #440 on: April 21, 2005, 05:45:28 am »
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Modes of the major scale
Ionian Dorian Phrygian Lydian Mixolydian Aolian Locrian



Umm... no. While Ionian, Lydian, and Mixolydian are major modes, Dorian, Phrygian, Aeolian, and Locrian are not. Unless, of course, you really mean "of the major scale," in which case I'd have to beat you over the head for using a trick to remember this stuff and confusing it with actual theory. Modes, although commonly thought of as Ionian scales starting on different notes, are keys in and of themselves. Just think of them as a key center and a scale (selection of notes) based on a specific series of intervals. That's what they really are.
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« Reply #441 on: April 21, 2005, 09:58:36 am »
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Modes of the major scale
Ionian Dorian Phrygian Lydian Mixolydian Aolian Locrian



Umm... no. While Ionian, Lydian, and Mixolydian are major modes, Dorian, Phrygian, Aeolian, and Locrian are not. Unless, of course, you really mean "of the major scale," in which case I'd have to beat you over the head for using a trick to remember this stuff and confusing it with actual theory. Modes, although commonly thought of as Ionian scales starting on different notes, are keys in and of themselves. Just think of them as a key center and a scale (selection of notes) based on a specific series of intervals. That's what they really are.


I don't bullshit.

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yes I know Dorian, Phrygian, Lydian, Mixolydian, Aeolian(natural minor) and Locrian are scales on themselves.
I didnt say it had anything to do with them.

I was just basically remembering them all.

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« Reply #442 on: April 21, 2005, 12:11:24 pm »
i didn't mean to sound so demanding. i didn't know i typed the same sentence twice, b/c i do that sometimes when i'm absent-minded :oops: . i just went back over my first post [i'm a newbie here, b/c the other official Van Carlton Community just doesn't get visited that often, which is rather disappointing], and edited it, even though i goofed still when i did it this time. :oops:

y'all probably think that i'm dumb when it comes to the knowledge of piano chords, but all i'm saying is that i'm just most familiar with [and most accustomed to] hearing just major and minor chords in pop music, b/c they're most commonly used. [i have yet to get classical training in piano, and that's why my knowledge doesn't really extend beyond the Minor and Major scale.]

now that you've mentioned the Dorian scale, you've refreshed my memory of learning it in chorus class when i was back in the 8th grade. i wasn't really interested in piano then, so it confused me. [my teacher was the only idiot playing the piano, so none of us didn't really know what she was talking about.] and that's probably why i couldn't figure out for the life of me what chord the song was in, and that was b/c it was in the Dorian scale.

i'm thinking that when they actually release the Harmonium songbook, that they might transpose the song to another key to make it easier for most of us to play, b/c remember, when they publish a songbook, the mainly have the players in mind who aren't classically-trained pianists, and the ones who are ignorant when i comes to chords or chord progressions.

there are various websites that you could go to that displays various chords, and they not just Major and Minor. there are far more chord names than that. the keyword is 'Virtual Piano Chords'. i hope that clears things up.

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« Reply #443 on: April 21, 2005, 12:17:13 pm »
My point was that modes are not "of the major scale." Modes are modes are modes. You could just as easily determine the tones in the mode by knowing which intervals from the tonic are included in the mode. I often use this technique, as thinking in intervals helps with harmonization and improvisation. In that situation, there is no relation to any major scale, let alone your hypothetical (presumably Ionian) "major scale." Thus, "modes of the major scale" is an flawed construct drawn from a misunderstanding of a specific but common technique to remember which tones comprise a mode.
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« Reply #444 on: April 21, 2005, 12:23:27 pm »
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y'all probably think that i'm dumb when it comes to the knowledge of piano chords,

no, will just likes to show off because he thinks he knows everything.  :wink:

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« Reply #445 on: April 21, 2005, 12:35:16 pm »
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no, will just likes to show off because he thinks he knows everything.


Pfft. I actually do know everything about everything.  :wink:

I even know what you did last summer! 8O
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« Reply #446 on: April 21, 2005, 12:51:52 pm »
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y'all probably think that i'm dumb when it comes to the knowledge of piano chords,

no, will just likes to show off because he thinks he knows everything.  :wink:

Welcome to the boards!


*claps hands emphatically*  :) thank you! thank you! yeah, i know. had me feelin' a little bad about myself for not knowing what key the song, PAPA was in. it's just a stupid song, so it's only a trivial matter.  :roll: i just goofed, that's all, and i corrected it.  :wink:

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« Reply #447 on: April 21, 2005, 12:53:38 pm »
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y'all probably think that i'm dumb when it comes to the knowledge of piano chords,

no, will just likes to show off because he thinks he knows everything.  :wink:

Welcome to the boards!


*claps hands emphatically*  :) thank you! thank you! yeah, i know. had me feelin' a little bad about myself for not knowing what key the song, PAPA was in. it's just a stupid song, so it's only a trivial matter.  :roll: i just goofed, that's all, and i corrected it.  :wink:

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« Reply #448 on: April 21, 2005, 03:11:34 pm »
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no, will just likes to show off because he thinks he knows everything.

I even know what you did last summer! 8O

Oh shit 8O
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« Reply #449 on: April 21, 2005, 08:13:09 pm »
Isn't music theory fun?!  :razz:
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