Intoxication

[zurielshimon]

I'm a social drinker myself, and by that I mean that I get social in order to drink, not that I drink in order to be social.  I don't like to drink alone, because that's where problems usually breed.  I could really use a Guiness ESP right now.  I know it's just 9 a.m. :?

[Grakthis]

I'm a social drinker myself, and by that I mean that I get social in order to drink, not that I drink in order to be social.  I don't like to drink alone, because that's where problems usually breed.  I could really use a Guiness ESP right now.  I know it's just 9 a.m. :?

First, I think you are looking for ESB.  Which stands for Extra Special Bitter.  ESP means Extra Sensory Perception and has nothing to do with beer.

And second, since when does Guinness make anything called an ESB?

...  To the best of my knowledge Guinness does now and always has made ONLY one beer and that's their Stout..

[zurielshimon]

I'm a social drinker myself, and by that I mean that I get social in order to drink, not that I drink in order to be social.  I don't like to drink alone, because that's where problems usually breed.  I could really use a Guinness ESP right now.  I know it's just 9 a.m. :?

First, I think you are looking for ESB.  Which stands for Extra Special Bitter.  ESP means Extra Sensory Perception and has nothing to do with beer.

And second, since when does Guinness make anything called an ESB?

...  To the best of my knowledge Guinness does now and always has made ONLY one beer and that's their Stout..

Actually, I was referring to "Extra Stout Porter", a name which no longer appears on the label of Guinness Stout.

Oh and by the way, I wouldn't say that extrasensory perception has nothing to do with beer....

[Grakthis]

I'm a social drinker myself, and by that I mean that I get social in order to drink, not that I drink in order to be social.  I don't like to drink alone, because that's where problems usually breed.  I could really use a Guinness ESP right now.  I know it's just 9 a.m. :?

First, I think you are looking for ESB.  Which stands for Extra Special Bitter.  ESP means Extra Sensory Perception and has nothing to do with beer.

And second, since when does Guinness make anything called an ESB?

...  To the best of my knowledge Guinness does now and always has made ONLY one beer and that's their Stout..

Actually, I was referring to "Extra Stout Porter", a name which no longer appears on the label of Guinness Stout.

Oh and by the way, I wouldn't say that extrasensory perception has nothing to do with beer....

You're on crack.

I googled.  Guinness never had Extra Stout PORTER on its label.

Guinness is not a porter and has never been a porter.  It does have "Extra Stout" on MOST of it's past labels.

But why would they put porter?  It's not a porter.  It's a stout.

Unless you know something I don't.

[zurielshimon]

Let me look this up.  I'll be back tomorrow.

[Logikal X]

extra stout porter lmao   Excuse me while i go drink my pale ale lager

[kev222]

extra stout porter lmao   Excuse me while i go drink my pale ale lager

Haha.

I'll laugh even harder if it turns out that ESP is correct.

-Kev

[kev222]

I'll laugh even harder if it turns out that ESP is correct.

Pahahahaa

Looks like you didn't google hard enough. This was the first link google.co.uk turned up for "extra stout porter"

The word Stout was added in the early 1820's as an adjective, qualifying the noun "porter". An "extra stout porter" was a stronger and more full bodied variety. "Stout" evolved as a noun in its own right, as did the family name of Guinness

(source)

Although, admittedly, it's going back a while (try the best part of two centuries), and you may still be right about it never appearing on the labels.

-Kev

[divasteph]

do we have to answer - i work with children and all - and i dont want to set a bad example... so you can leave yourself to your own thoughts on that one

[Grakthis]

I'll laugh even harder if it turns out that ESP is correct.

Pahahahaa

Looks like you didn't google hard enough. This was the first link google.co.uk turned up for "extra stout porter"

The word Stout was added in the early 1820's as an adjective, qualifying the noun "porter". An "extra stout porter" was a stronger and more full bodied variety. "Stout" evolved as a noun in its own right, as did the family name of Guinness

(source)

Although, admittedly, it's going back a while (try the best part of two centuries), and you may still be right about it never appearing on the labels.

-Kev

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Zuriel was born in the 1820's.

THat's the only answer I can come up with.  I went to that same site and looked at all their labels and none of them had Extra Stout Porter on them.

So a STOUT is evolved from a PORTER?  They taste NOTHING alike these days.  Poters are sweeter and have more of a nut flavor vs a stout which is more like a bitter chocolate or coffee.

I don't like Porters at all.  I love stouts.

Zuriel, where did you hear that from?  That is terribly obscure.

[zurielshimon]

I'll quote from http://www.beeradvocate.com/news/stories_read/305/:

There were two strengths of Porter at that time, either marked with a single or a double "X." [sic] ... In 1820, the XX was renamed Guinness Extra Stout Porter

Yes, Porter is the father of Stout, and without it there'd be no creamy Guinness, Murphy's or Beamish as we know them today.

I knew I didn't pull that name out of my ass, but thanx for the discussion; I think I learned a good bit of the history of one of my favourite beers.

[Logikal X]

eh, but in your lifetime they are two completely different beers.  sillyness.  Im into the amber ales anyways, otter creek, magic hat humble patience, bass ale

[Grakthis]

eh, but in your lifetime they are two completely different beers.  sillyness.  Im into the amber ales anyways, otter creek, magic hat humble patience, bass ale

Yeah.  I mean... it's the equivalent of me calling non-apple PC's IBM compatibles or refering to cognac as wine.  I mean... yeah, it's true in some sense.  But it's a convention that's been dead for a LONG time.

No one has used the phrase IBM compatible in 10 years and Cognac is only an offshoot of wine if you go back several 100 years.

[zurielshimon]

Yeah.  I mean... it's the equivalent of me calling non-apple PC's IBM compatibles

I call them oranges.

[Logikal X]

eh, but in your lifetime they are two completely different beers.  sillyness.  Im into the amber ales anyways, otter creek, magic hat humble patience, bass ale

Yeah.  I mean... it's the equivalent of me calling non-apple PC's IBM compatibles or refering to cognac as wine.  I mean... yeah, it's true in some sense.  But it's a convention that's been dead for a LONG time.

No one has used the phrase IBM compatible in 10 years and Cognac is only an offshoot of wine if you go back several 100 years.

I had no clue about that one, damn cognac and wine taste so different!  I dont really mind cognac on ice, but i hate wine